Thanks for posting. I have asked many others who do not respond, but would you watch this video and let me know your responses in the comments? Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.html I look forward to hearing from you.
Thanks for posting. I am hearing that challenge more often. I accept the challenge. I have asked many others who do not respond, but would you watch this video and let me know your responses in the comments? Let me know if I have correctly represented the Trinity in this video. I believe I have. Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.html
@@BiblicalBinitarianListen brother I appreciate your dedication to finding the truth but the Godhead isn’t 2 persons. The Holy Spirit is clearly God. “But when the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, he will bear witness about me.” John 15:26 So Jesus addressed the Spirit as he, giving the Holy Spirit its own identity but yet it proceeds from the Father. Thus it is God. Not convinced? I’ll bring you to the Book of Job “The Spirit of God has made me, and the breath of the Almighty gives me life.” Job 33:4 So we clearly see that the Holy Spirit played a part in creation - he made humans just as The Almighty and The Christ did. Further proof of the trinity: Now since you only believe in two persons in the God head you must know that the figure in the old testament “the Angel of The Lord” that is clearly pre-incarnate Jesus is God. Now look at this: “For he said, “Surely they are my people, children who will not deal falsely.” And he became their Savior (Father). In all their affliction he was afflicted, and the angel of his presence saved them (Son); in his love and in his pity he redeemed them; he lifted them up and carried them all the days of old. But they rebelled and grieved his Holy Spirit (3rd Person of the trinity); therefore he turned to be their enemy, and himself fought against them.” Isaiah 63:8-10 Need I say more?
Can't prove the trinity without blatantly ignoring 99% of the bible or by taking countless verses out of context and mashing them together to form a collage of false doctrine.
Thanks. I respect the case you are making for the Trinity from the Bible. I used to teach, preach, and believe similarly. Would you consider giving me a fair hearing from the Scriptures? Let me know if the Bible explicitly teaches threefold love of the Father for the Spirit and the Son. We believe that the Son is fully divine and has always been the Father's beloved Son. But what verse teaches directly that there is threefold love between three divine persons? What's Missing in the Trinity Triangle? ruclips.net/user/shortsxOx9BhwthCA?feature=shared Please kindly attempt to **respond** to at least **one** of the specific challenges. I will read your points: Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.htmlfeature=shared May the Lord Jesus bless you.
Thankfully, binartarism is not a popular view among people today. It grieves my spirit that one would think the Holy Spirit is just another name of Jesus. The claim is based on the misreading of a passage in the non-canonical “The Shepherd of Hermas” A better way to understand Romans 8:9 is that the Holy Spirit is called the “Spirit of Christ” because He is sent by Christ (John 15:26), He testifies of Christ (John 15:26), He comes in the name of Christ (John 14:26), and He seals believers in Christ (Ephesians 1:13). The fact that the Son sends the Spirit from the Father shows that all three Persons of the Trinity are distinct.
@@BiblicalBinitarian Genesis Isaiah all speak of the Angel of the LORD and calls him the Maker...I know you don't have the balls to challenge this dude...ruclips.net/video/-Y94Wpj3ET4/видео.html
@@MexicanApachemiwok777but that’s your interpretation on it the quotes are not directly addressing the trinity but I don’t mean to say your wrong jus simply wanna know more so my question is where in the bible does it clearly state and prove the trinity is real ?
It's actually Egyptian doctrine. Father Son Mother Is the Trinity of life . Greeks couldn't have a female, so pulled her out and made it holy ghost? New testament, new rules? =New religion.
Hello. Thanks for posting your comment. You may not be aware, but I spent many years assuming this about the word one in Deuteronomy 6:4. Others have attempted to argue that since there are a few instances where the Hebrew word **echad** can refer to a compound unity (see Genesis 2:4), this is what it **must** mean in Deut. 6:4. Aside from being not a solid argument, what most of them miss is that all of the few places where echad **must** mean compound unity actually explicitly state what is being united (e.g., the two shall become one). Deuteronomy does not include language like that. Amazingly, none of the verses of God's Word (Hebrew or Greek) contains a statement like "the three are one" applying to the Father, the Son, and the Spirit. Ironically, we have a few that say that the Father and Son are united as one (John 10:30, John 17:11, 17:21 17:22-23). This is one of several well-known differences. This is an example of how to rightly handle the Word of truth. The Trinity requires more proof. I would be interested in your comments on the following video. It is challenging. I look forward to hearing from you. Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.html
@@BiblicalBinitarian How does Deuteronomy 6:4 effect the trinity at all? The trinity certainly doesn't teach that there is more than 1 God. So essentially this is a straw man argument anyways. Who teaches there is more than 1 God?
Exactly. In most cases, you may not even get an answer. Check out these two shorts. ruclips.net/user/shorts08XSBblwqGo?feature=share ruclips.net/user/shortsWtQl8pPJXbk?feature=share
Hello, This would explain why that God is All 3(Godhead) Jesus Is God!! People assume its a Catholic doctrine that perceive us Christians follow but totally do not. Catholics are false religion with their work base salvation, idol worshiping, and Jesus dead on the cross in their churches and so much more. Jehovah witness also believes that Jesus is not God, Jews to denied Jesus Christ was their Messiah, and Islam their false God saying Jesus was just a prophet and etc. I am a born again Christian who reads KJV scriptures that tells us God is one God with 3 persons in 1John5:7-8 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. 9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son. (Vs 7 is the witness of God in Heaven =Father, Word,& Spirit are One) (Vs 8 is the witness of Man on Earth=Spirit,Water&Blood are ONE) (Vs 9John is talking about the 2 witness ) The cult modern bibles today take the Verse 7 out of their bibles for it not to make sense and to call the trinity believers theorists. Its like saying Rapture is not in the bible where we know there is a (Greek translation harpazo a snatching away) Or the commandment of God A sin not forgivable..Blaspheming the Holy Ghost(God/Jesus) More proof God is 3 person(3 Parts) Hebrews1:1-3(God The father a person) 1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, God The Father 2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; (God and son Jesus whom also He(Jesus)made the worlds) 3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high: (Jesus Christ is the expressed image of the person GOD the Father) 2 Cort2:10 (Jesus Christ is a Person) 10 To whom ye forgive any thing, I forgive also: for if I forgave any thing, to whom I forgave it, for your sakes forgave I it in the person of Christ; (God in the person of Christ) John 14:16&26(Holy Spirit is a person"HE") John 14: 16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;(HE=GOD) 26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. Acts5(The Holy Ghost Is God)when Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost) Ananias lied to God 1John5:20(JESUS CHRIST IS THE TRUE GOD) 20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life. "Yeshua is the true God" 1Tim3:16(Jesus Is God) 16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. The Godhead has been one of the most complex understanding for Many (cults of modern bibles and unbelievers of Jesus The Messiah) Many people can't figure out how God can be 3 Separate persons when he is ONE and only ONE true God. Its impossible to Figure out how God can create nothing into something. How God can feed a few loaves of bread to 5000. God cannot be God if MAN can figure things out God has the Greatest Power no one can understand....Thank Goodness for that Pray this blesses you and to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ for Salvation as its God Will in the New Testament in John 6:40 40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day . YHVH Means Hand of Grace Behold, Nails of Grace Behold YHVH translates to Hallelujah God Will in New testament John 6:40 40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. God Bless
@@Melanie_44 John 1 was written for the Heretics. On this topic this is what you should say. Anything else is not of God. "Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God." 1 John 4:15 KJV Everything you wrote violates this and you even accuse some people of doing what John wrote as wrong!!! This cannot be. Examine yourself and the sillyness your theologians taught you vs this verse. I say Jesus is the Son of God, the Word says God dwells in me. Your very next step is condemning those who reject trinitarians beliefs.
@@ComplexedUsername I have already repented and believed in the name of the Lord Jesus. Knowing the Father and the Son is eternal life (John 17:3). Can you check out this video and let me know your comments. Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.html
Yes, ecclesiastical heresy. But Biblical Binitarian orthodoxy. Would you watch this video and let me know your responses in the comments. Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.html
Trinity is heresy.Let’s say Jesus was God. They have made icons and idols of him and worship them. Their idolators. Then they make crosses to represent him. Bow and worship those too. Even if trinity was true, they prove idolaters. John 1:1 and John 4:28 are both true but they say Gods word is lies and only the verses they choose are the truth.
So you want a rhoroughly Biblical dispoof of the Trinity? No worries. Here's my full-length debunking video. Would you take the challenge and watch this video and let me know your 5 responses in the comments? Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.html For a bonus, here is my chart from the comments if the short video. Here is the breakdown: Deut 6:04 God is One 1 Mat 3:16 3 Distinct Persons 1/2 Mat 28:19 One God is 3 Persons 1/2 John 14:15-17 Father is Not the Spirit 1/2 John 16:07-15 Father is Not the Spirit 1/2 Acts 5:01-05 Holy Spirit is God -1 Actually teaches "the God" is the Holy Spirit. 1 Co 8:5-6 One God is 3 Persons -1 2 Co 13:11-14 3 Distinct Persons 1/2 2 Co 3:14-18 The Lord is the Spirit -1 Mat 11:27 Spirit and Father Know Son -1 Mat 11:27 Spirit and Son Know Father -1 1 Jo 4:13-14 Father Does Not Give Out of Own His Spirit -1 ================================== Total Score: -2.5 out of 12 ================================= For our analysis of these Trinity proof text passages: ruclips.net/p/PLYGQCKKPeelrXBvfSVGmdNblbf788L9ZG
@@BiblicalBinitarian I see that you included John 14:15-17 on your list, but I was surprised that John 14:23-27 was not on your list. Do you have a response to that in the other video? If not, do you mind sharing your view about that passage here? Thanks.
@@BiblicalBinitarianYou misinterpretated the trinity 3 persons do not mean 3 gods. 1 god does not mean 1 person Jesus is God, but that does not mean he is the father The Father is God, but that does not mean he is The Holy Spirit The Holy Spirit is God, but that does not mean he is Jesus God is not limited to our human capacities When speaking of the trinity, you must be careful not to commit modalism, partialism, and other heresies that come with it To understand the trinity, you should watch a videom from Redeemed Zoomer, the video is called "Explaining the trinity in 5 minutes" or smth like that. The Trinity is hard to understand, that is why many churches make the mistake of using analogies, such as "The trinity is like the water, it can be liquid, solid, and gas at the same time" but that is modalism
I have asked many others who do not respond, but would you watch this video and let me know your responses in the comments? Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.html
Hi. Thanks for the comment. You may want to watch this series where I provide a response to the Top 5 Trinity proof texts, including this one. ruclips.net/p/PLYGQCKKPeelrXBvfSVGmdNblbf788L9ZG For an even fuller case, please check out my book: Why I Became a Biblical Binitarian: Mario Shepard a.co/d/bM0H9FT
God was in Jesus, Jesus was BEGOTTEN (which means had a beginning), the Holy Ghost is GOD himself merely manifested in men, and not a separate God. Nowhere does Jesus ever say, God is three separate Gods but in one. Nowhere in scripture does it say God is three separate Gods AT ALL! It says there is ONE GOD, flat out!
@@johnrambo9104 the trinity doesn't teach that God is 3 separate gods, so what are you even talking about? The trinity teaches that the 1 God YHWH, is the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
@@johnrambo9104 begotten doesn't always mean that. Psalm 2:7 David was begotten as the king of Israel. David certainly was not created that day. Also David had a dad on earth named Jesse.
No, but when Stephen was s being stoned he said in Acts 7 chapter 55 verse... But he , being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up steadfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, 56. And said, behold,I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.
@@joemooney6536”the glory of God” in Arabic is “Bahá-ú-lláh”. Learn about this. It is a title of Mirza Hussein Ali, a -19th century figure who made some astonishing claims that need to be investigated.
@@Scott23882 what are u even tlkn about?? Maybe?? Smh didn't Daniel see the son of man standing before the ancient of days hundreds of years b4 he came to earth? Did the son of man have flesh then? No. Was he a spirit? Yes. So whoever Stephen saw was the same 2 persons Daniel saw in chapter 7 and both the son of man and the father being side by side in heaven.
Good one. Thanks for posting. I assume that you have not heard someone make the Biblical case for Binitarianism. Here are two brief videos that do the job. We have more. But let me know your initial thoughts. 7 Reasons Why Paul Was Binitarian ruclips.net/video/iLuAq0XCa5E/видео.htmlfeature=shared Why the Trinity Triangle is Wrong ruclips.net/user/shortsxOx9BhwthCA?feature=shared May the Lord Jesus bless you.
Your issue is because you can’t FULLY comprehend something you can’t fully believe in it & that’s ok…..i’ve been married for over 31yrs & i still don’t fully understand my Wife…. The Trinity is in the O & N T, plain n simple
LOL. That made me smile. Would you consider giving me a fair hearing from the Scriptures? Let me know specifically if the Bible explicitly teaches threefold love of the Father for the Spirit and the Son. We believe that the Son is fully divine and has always been the Father's beloved Son. But what verse teaches directly that there is threefold love between three divine persons? What's Missing in the Trinity Triangle? ruclips.net/user/shortsxOx9BhwthCA?feature=shared Please kindly attempt to **respond** to at least **one** of the specific challenges. I will read your points: Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.htmlfeature=shared May the Lord Jesus bless you.
Yes, but in the text, it says, "So God created man in his own image in the image of God he created him male and female he created them" (Genesis 1:26). God began with two united as one, "So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate" (Matthew 19:6). The Father and the Son ate two fully divine heads, and, together, they made two humans, both in their image. Question for you: In Corinthians 11:3, how man divine heads are over the human family? Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.html
Thanks for posting. Actually, we are making the case that the Trinity resulted from people attempting to explain Biblical truths in human terms instead of Biblical language and logic. Would you watch this video and let me know your responses in the comments. Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.html
God made religion simple and easy to understand and worship him. You people bringing changes and now its all confused. No wonder christianity is declining
@@Syedarshad03wdym God made faith simple? Do you claim to comprehend the entire texts? No one person can fully be capable of understanding the power of God nor what God even is
@@zacharylundfelt1847 god is complex yes. No one can fully understand. Trinity doesn’t make sense at all and Jesus (pbuh)never claimed Trinity it came into existence 200 AD. If you think without any bias against Trinity you will understand that its complete blasphemy. God will give simple understanding for humans to worship him. As jews and muslims claim god to be one. For christians god is 1+1+1=1 . Like where did holy spirit come from.
I swear i understood this whole thing better as a kid (non trinity). When i came back to Christianity and was told the Trinity idea ive been confused ever since.
Thanks for posting. Would you watch this video and let me know your responses in the comments. Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.html
God is not a God of confusion. God is a singular Spirit (John 4:24). God promised to save us Isaiah 43:10-11. The way he did this was to take on a human form Isaiah 9:6 & Matthew 1:23. Believing that there are three beings in the Godhead is evidence of being deceived by satan Colossians 2:8-9.
@luqmanhakim867 Thanks for posting. Actually, I have read and reread the Quran (an English interpretation). I have a question for you. Is there a Surah in the Quran that refers to any other prophet as a Messiah (anointed one)? For example, in the Bible, kings and priests were anointed with oil. Who anointed Muhammad or the other prophets in the Quran with oil? There are hundreds of prophecies about the Messiah (the Anointed) King in the Jewish writings preserved for centuries before Jesus was born. I assume you have heard about the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls, over 600 scrolls, and fragments dated from 200 B.C. to 100 A.D. Many are not aware of the historical confidence we have about what was written before Jesus was even born. An example of an amazing prophecy that predates Christ by 500 years, preserved and verified, is Daniel 9. It included the expected time frame when the Anointed One will come and explicitly states that He will be put to death (Daniel 9:26). That's an example of an amazingly supernatural prophecy before Christ. NIV 9:24 “Seventy ‘sevens’ are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the Most Holy Place. 25 “Know and understand this: From the time the word goes out to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One, the ruler, comes, there will be seven ‘sevens,’ and sixty-two ‘sevens.’ It will be rebuilt with streets and a trench, but in times of trouble. 26 After the sixty-two ‘sevens,’ the Anointed One will be put to death and will have nothing. The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed. 27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him."
@InspiringPhilosophy has a great set of videos on the Trinity. I think it’s better to take a wholistic approach to the Trinity. Most “charts” I’m seeing here either do not encompass the full scope (I.e. all scripture covering this topic), or include inaccurate aspects of what is being discussed (I.e. including the Holy Spirit in a passage when He is not being discussed). Note: the New Testament is mostly concerned with establishing Jesus as the divine messiah, as it was understood that God is the Holy Spirit also. Since it seems as though Jesus’ divinity isn’t in question, the following passages help to support the Holy Spirit as God: First, establishing the Holy Spirit - Genesis 1: 2, 1 Samuel 10:10, Acts 2:4-18, Exodus 31:3, Numbers 24:2, Judges 3:10, 1 Samuel 19:20, Romans 8:9. Second, establishing the Holy Spirit is sent and distinct from God the Father - Isaiah 63:11-12, Ezekiel 11:5, Psalm 104:30. Thirdly, the Holy Spirit is God - 2 Samuel 23:2-3 (not that the Holy Spirit is speaking from God, but that God is speaking), Job 33:4, Isaiah 48:16 (“…From the time it took place, I was there. And now the Lord God has sent me, and His Spirit.”) This is only the tip of the iceberg of evidence, and if you want to directly object to the Trinity - you need to make a cumulative case using all scripture. Not to mention, the Historical Jewish / Rabbinical understanding, and modern scholarly support to back up the Trinity as being understood over the centuries.
Thanks for the engagement. RUclips has its limits. I would highly recommend that you read my book. Why I Became a Biblical Binitarian: Mario Shepard a.co/d/bM0H9FT I provide a comprehensive positive case for Binitarism and chapters respectfully responding to the central claims of Trinitarianism. Also, I am not sure if you have fully understood my position regarding the divine spirit. Matthew 11:25-27 and 2 Corinthians 3:14-18 are negations (actually double negations) of critical Trinitarian claims. You will be surprised to learn that throughout history, Trinitarians have not been able to provide text-based explanations of these texts. Here is an example: Matthew 11:25-27 ruclips.net/video/ABKSoen1YyQ/видео.html There are also other major deficiencies for Trinitarianism, which must be addressed. Hope this helps.
@@BiblicalBinitarian I guess I’ll simply have to read your book to understand your position. One quick question: What is the Holy Spirit, in your view?
@Red Rebel Leader-7 I have a Father-focused view of the divine spirit. Here is a video (5 Hard Facts about the Holy Spirit). ruclips.net/video/aO8lHZ7FUD8/видео.html I also have a series where I discuss spirit in the Old Testament. What Does the OT Teach us About the Spirit of God 4 part Series: ruclips.net/p/PLYGQCKKPeelqYlW-a43wyLJN3hMUBsxw3 Let me know if this clarifies.
Read Revelation 3:12 to see what Jesus says. Just a heads up thought...he who is God almighty ...can not have a God. Like I said...read the scripture...Plenty more like it throughout the bible. It will make you think.
Since d Mind, Soul and Spirit of a human being doesn't make them 1/3 of us (Human). The Mind, Soul and Spirit is 100% human. But in spiritual affairs they have different departments.... Since we're made in d image of God isn't our Mind, Soul and Spirit d best explanation for d Trinity? Or aren't we evidence of it? Mind(which is a part of d body, in hierarchy it holds d other two and "scientifically, it is true we operate and move according to d brain ") = The Father Soul = The Son (who is d soul saver, the savior of our souls) Spirit = The Holy Spirit (The one who connects us to d Transcendent and helps us communicate with d other two) That's why if we have all 3, d bible says we'll be made whole. Right?
Have you ever considered why God speaks clearly and explicitly about His oneness, but Trinitarians must infer His threeness? I would be interested in hearing your thoughts after watching this video. It is a compelling case, with a more Biblical replacement. Enjoy and stay engaged. Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.html
He is One person and One Being, my friend. The Bible doesn’t speak of a trinity or a binity just One God. ruclips.net/user/shortsRcRhlMlkeNM?feature=share
@@shalombereshiyth Hello. I would like ro have you review one of these three videos and let me know your comments. Thanks. Philippians 2 ruclips.net/video/o3i_njwORsc/видео.html John ruclips.net/video/se-9kDnChuU/видео.html John 1:1 ruclips.net/video/c7KzyabuV8M/видео.html
@@BiblicalBinitarian Hi, I agree that Yehoshua (Jesus) existed prior to His revelation on earth. He is called the Eternal Father and Mighty God in Isaiah 9:6. Also, John 1:1 is clear that the Word was made flesh. Also, “Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.” John 8:58 The timelessness of the phrase indicates the Hebrew term Yahweh (was, is, will be) Yehoshua is simply Yahweh Saves. So, He has always existed
LOL. Good one. It seems you may not be familiar with what we believe as Biblical Binitarians. We believe that both the Father and the Son have always been and will always be fully divine. They are two fully divine, royal family heads, united as one fully divine spirit. Here is some content that explains more of what we believe. Let us know your particular objections or agreements. Why We Do Not Believe in Two Gods ruclips.net/video/LBiuDxTIHkg/видео.htmlfeature=shared 7 Reasons Why Paul Was Binitarian ruclips.net/video/iLuAq0XCa5E/видео.htmlfeature=shared Why the Trinity Triangle is Wrong ruclips.net/user/shortsxOx9BhwthCA?feature=shared Why I Became a Biblical Binitarian: Mario Shepard a.co/d/bM0H9FT May God bless you.
The trinity never exist during the time of Jesus and no church father 100 or 300 yrs after Jesus spoke about it. It was introduced by Greek mythology. Do deep research and you will understand how fake christainty was .
No it's like someone stopping a dust with a planet overkill it's easy to disprove it. Clearly you are deluded God is one and i believe that Jesus Alaihisalam was not a God but a Prophet of God
@@GuardianKnight07 You're deluded with your illiterate false prophet who married a 9-year-old playing with dolls. Christ had already heard us call him God. Thomas answered and said to him: My Lord and my God. Jesus saith to him: Because thou hast seen me, Thomas, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen and have believed. The Gospel of St. John 20:28-29
@@GuardianKnight07no the deity of Christ is very clear he he said I was the first and the last alpha and omega it’s pretty clear that he is god and he is 1 person not some trinity
The Jews asked Jesus, " Who can forgive sins but God?" After Jesus had told a man his sins were now forgiven. Then to make absolutely sure what was meant they said. Because you make yourself equal to God. NO room for confusion what Jesus was claiming!!
Hello. Thanks for posting. It seems you may not be familiar with what we believe as Biblical Binitarians. We believe that both the Father and the Son have always been and will always be fully divine. They are two fully divine, royal family heads, united as one fully divine spirit. Here is some content that explains more of what we believe. Let us know your particular objections or agreements. Why We Do Not Believe in Two Gods ruclips.net/video/LBiuDxTIHkg/видео.htmlfeature=shared 7 Reasons Why Paul Was Binitarian ruclips.net/video/iLuAq0XCa5E/видео.htmlfeature=shared Why the Trinity Triangle is Wrong ruclips.net/user/shortsxOx9BhwthCA?feature=shared Why I Became a Biblical Binitarian: Mario Shepard a.co/d/bM0H9FT May God bless you.
If you are a muslim and ur sure that jesus isn't God read this he said Right there he is God Idk why people don't mention this verse Luke 4:6-12 [6]“I will give you the glory of these kingdoms and authority over them,” the devil said, “because they are mine to give to anyone I please. [7]I will give it all to you if you will worship me.” [8]Jesus replied, “The Scriptures say, ‘You must worship the lord your God and serve only him.’” [9]Then the devil took him to Jerusalem, to the highest point of the Temple, and said, “If you are the Son of God, jump off! [10]For the Scriptures say, ‘He will order his angels to protect and guard you. [11]And they will hold you up with their hands so you won’t even hurt your foot on a stone.’” [12]Jesus responded, “The Scriptures also say, ‘You must not test the lord your God.’”
He told him you must not test the lord your god and the devil was testing him!! And he said right there that he was God because the devil was testing Jesus and Jesus said that you shall not test the lord your god
This is incorrect. Jesus is quoting from Deuteronomy while being tested to show that He only worships God, His Father. The proof is that in all of the Satan's temptations he was attempt to undermine Jesus' trust in His Father, who had just spoken from heaven, "This is my Beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased" (Luke 3:22 ). Notice, Satan did not say, "If you are God turn theses stones into bread," but, "If you are the Son of God, command this stone to become bread" (Luke 4:3). So on with the other temptations.
Unfortunately, you are jumping to a conclusion without justifying it from the text. Jesus is fully divine and has always existed in the form of God, always being with God, His Father. But He is distinguished from the invisible God, the Most High God, whom no one has ever seen. Check out this video and let me know your thoughts. Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.html
Hello. I am a Biblical Binitarian. I believe that Jesus has always been fully divine, like His Father. I believe all the fullness of deity was pleased to dwell in Him bodily. But I also believe that the Son has eternally depended upon the Father for life, likeness, leadership, learning, and love. Here is a breakdown of what Binitarians believe. There is also a playlist to go with it. What do you believe? Do you believe in the Trinity? Or do you believe in Father and the Son? I look forward to your comments. 22 Affirmations and Denials drive.google.com/file/d/1e9WiUpstTF_ocMjomUmn8ggyrZ_sctrn/ Playlist ruclips.net/p/PLYGQCKKPeelpSdUBrTYQ1OVfiDxFEr3mq Why I Became a Biblical Binitarian: Mario Shepard a.co/d/bM0H9FT
That Nicolatians doctrine of men. 🗡THE ADDED TRINITY HERESY OF JOHN 5 THE TRUTH IN THE ORIGINAL GREEK! ❤ 1 John 5:6-8 Greek Orinlginal Version 6 This is he that came by water and blood, Jesus Christ, not by water only, but by water and blood, and the Spirit beareth witness, because the spirit is truth. ✅️7These three they are for the witnessing, 8 the spirit, the water, and the blood, and these three agree in one.✅️ 🔥When he was nailed to the cross the water and the blood that leaked from his side when he was pierced by the spear was for a witness of the truth, and the Spirit of truth that came over those who saw and knew right away from His teachings of blood and water prophecy of psalms 22 is a witness in itself.🔥 John 19:34-35 KJV 34 But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water. 35 And he that saw it bare record, and his record is true: and he knoweth that he saith true, that ye might believe. 🔥Come out of Nicolatians/Nicaean Council Heresy doctrines that are the seat of Satan's foundation. The 1st beast in Revelations 13 is The Roman Empire and Roman Catholic Church, and The Second beast that rose to power after the first beast fell out of power was America and Westernized Christianity. Pointing the world back to worshipping the first beast, Nicaean/Nicolatians doctrines 3 in 1 Trinity Heresy.🔥 🗡Revelation 2:15-17 KJV🗡 [15]So hast thou also them that hold THE DOCTRINE OF THE NICOLAITANS, WHICH THING I HATE. [16]👉🏽Repent; or else👈🏿 I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth. [17]He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the called ones; TO him THAT OVERCOMETH will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it. The Trinity is a three part deception in itself. The False Father - Roman Catholic Pope. The False Son - Westernized Christianity Jesus is GOD. The False Holy Spirit/teacher/Prophet - Islam/Muhammad. Roman Catholic Church Nicaean Council exalted Christ's divinity too high, so that Islam could come and bring his divinity too low. And Westernized Christianity comes along to be in comparison to Catholicism that the devil made overwhelmingly False, so that Westernized Christianity with its bae heresy would look like the truth. Catholic = Kool-Aid Westernized Christianity = Gstorade May be less poison in it, and filled with more pure water, and eems hydrating in comparison, but it still ain't 100% pure life giving water. Its all part of the great deception.
Hello. Thanks for posting. What specifically did I mention that is directly denied by the Bible? Take a look at what Biblical Binitarians believe and let me know what specifically we are claiming that is not confessed explicitly in the Bible. Why We Do Not Believe in Two Gods ruclips.net/video/LBiuDxTIHkg/видео.html 7 Reasons Why Paul Was Binitarian ruclips.net/video/iLuAq0XCa5E/видео.htmlfeature=shared 22 Affirmations and Denials drive.google.com/file/d/1e9WiUpstTF_ocMjomUmn8ggyrZ_sctrn/ Playlist ruclips.net/p/PLYGQCKKPeelpSdUBrTYQ1OVfiDxFEr3mq Why I Became a Biblical Binitarian: Mario Shepard a.co/d/bM0H9FT May God bless you with more knowledge of the truth (1 Corinthians 8:4-7a).
Problem with this approach is: You can't read isolated verses of the Bible out of context like that. The Bible needs to be read in context to come to any rational conclusions about it.
Thanks for the post. There is a way to do this that relies on the surrounding context for each passage. Please take a look at this deeper dive. I would appreciate your review and feedback. Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.html
Thanks for posting. Actually, we are attempting to disprove a natural, man-made construct that has been substituted for God's supernaturally revealed truth. If you are interested in learning how, then check out this video. Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.htmlfeature=shared May the Lord Jesus bless you.
God is supernatural, so the trinity is supernatural. The trinity is nothing like what the natural world has seen before. There was a 200 year period where christians were really close to God. From what they experienced, all of them concluded to the trinity. If something was originally, "The father, the son, and the holy spirit are the 3 gods of Christianity," or, "The father, the son and the holy spirit are 3 forms of God," no one in the right mind would go, "Sorry. I'm confused. Do you mean, like, the father, the son, and the holy spirit are one God in three persons?" If something doesn't make sense, chances are it's the original.@@BiblicalBinitarian
Why leave it to chance? Check out this simple video. Does the Trinity Require Jesus to Be Wrong? ruclips.net/video/ABKSoen1YyQ/видео.htmlfeature=shared
Thanks for posting. Would you watch this video and let me know your responses in the comments. Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.html
@@BiblicalBinitarianclearly you have not read the Bible yourself so you are no better than the false Christians you ask these questions too. Why ask people who are very uneducated in their own religion and why ask false prophets these question to debunk the trinity? Stop being hypocritical and get educated yourself. There are Scriptures that proves the trinity and theres also the Athanasian Creed as well.
@@Pretzel829 Same, I watched it about 6 times, what he teaches his watchers to do (in this video, not in his other videos) is to write down their scores for each verse which trinitarians would use to prove the trinity. In no way does this disprove the trinity because it is based purely on a biased point system. He would argue that no verses in the Bible evidence a trinity, so all verses would be rated a 0 or -1, but I would see the trinity and rate them 1. This video does not work to prove or disprove anything.
The Trinity is literally in the Bible. The thing is people is that they don't know what the trinity is. What is the Trinity? It is not 3 Gods as 1 God. It is 3 attributes of 1 entity. What is the entity? God. What are the attributes? The Father, Son and Holy Spirit. So it is simple.
Thanks for posting. Would you watch this video and let me know your responses in the comments? Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.html
Trinity is a 3rd century concept to bring order to the Christian world. Jesus came to earth and broadcasted God's words. Here is God's quote in Duetoronomy 👇 Deuteronomy 18:18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. Deuteronomy 18:19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him. Jesus then says he speaks from God's authority, not his. 👇 John 14:10-11 New International Version 10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. 11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves.
Thanks. You may not be familiar with my background. I used to teach, preach, and believe similarly. Would you consider giving me a fair hearing from the Scriptures? Let me know specifically if the Bible explicitly teaches threefold love of the Father for the Spirit and the Son. We believe that the Son is fully divine and has always been the Father's beloved Son. But what verse teaches directly that there is threefold love between three divine persons? What's Missing in the Trinity Triangle? ruclips.net/user/shortsxOx9BhwthCA?feature=shared Please kindly attempt to **respond** to at least **one** of the specific challenges. I will read your points: Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.htmlfeature=shared May the Lord Jesus bless you.
Thanks, but I am guessing that you have not examined what we actually believe (see below). I was happy being a Trinitarian minister. But the Bible is what led me to become a Biblical Binitarian I have asked many others who do not respond, but would you watch this video and let me know your responses in the comments? Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.html 22 Affirmations and Denials drive.google.com/file/d/1e9WiUpstTF_ocMjomUmn8ggyrZ_sctrn/
I agree there is no such thing as the Trinity in the Bible. Would you consider reading our 22 Affirmations and Denials drive.google.com/file/d/1e9WiUpstTF_ocMjomUmn8ggyrZ_sctrn/view
As Binitarians, we agree that two can become one. But what do you believe? Do you believe there are three divine persons who know, love, and honor each other, having always been together, even before creation?
Great, No one contests that! The issue is: Do the Holy Scriptures teach of a Triune God or a Monoune God? A common claim by Trinitarian Christian Missionaries is that even the Jewish Bible preaches the Trinity, even in the Shema, saying that Echad refers to a complex unity, therefore, the God of Judaism is Triune. The problem with that is, just because the word "One" can mean either [One set of Things] or [One Individual Thing] that doesn't mean that the Echad is refering to a complex Unity of Persons. All over the texts there is condemnation of the Idea that God can be made of parts. Therefore that interetation of "Echad" is invalid. Ergo, the Trinity is Invalid.
What difference does it make. Jesus is the way the Truth and the Life. Not your articulation of the trinity or theology. Theology can not save us. But knowing him will. Truth be told we don’t actually have the kind to conceive him in logical terms. It’s above our pay grace.
@charleshanna2089 It's easy to crush the trinity teaching. Hebrews chapter ONE is all about Christ Jesus being an angel in heaven and Jehovah exalting him to a higher position than all the other angels. AFTER reading it, .. Can you explain verse by verse the relationship between Jehovah and his beloved Son, Christ Jesus ? EXAMPLES: ** Verse 2 - How do you become an HEIR to yourself ? ** Verse 3 - Did Jesus sit down on his own right hand ? (NOBODY sits next to their self) ** Verse 4 - WHO did Jesus receive an inheritance from ? ** Verse 9 - Regarding Jesus it says .. " THY GOD hath ANNOINTED THEE With the oil of gladness above thy fellows " ( Who are Jesus fellows ? )- other angels . The whole entirety of Hebrews chapter one, is also proof that the teaching of the Trinity is a bunch of crap.
1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 1 Corinthians 8:6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.
We believe these texts fully. We are Biblical Binitarians. One God, the Father, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God. Take a look at our 22 theses and let me know your comments. 22 Affirmations and Denials drive.google.com/file/d/1e9WiUpstTF_ocMjomUmn8ggyrZ_sctrn/view
He actually proves the trinity at the beginning, he needed 3 items to prove his point ( paper, pen and the holy bible ) the holy bible is the father, the pen is the spirit and the paper is Jesus in the flesh! Glory be to God (YHWH) 🙏
Would you consider giving me a fair hearing from the Scriptures? Let me know if the Bible explicitly teaches threefold love of the Father for the Spirit and the Son. We believe that the Son is fully divine and has always been the Father's beloved Son. But what verse teaches directly that there is threefold love between three divine persons? What's Missing in the Trinity Triangle? ruclips.net/user/shortsxOx9BhwthCA?feature=shared Please kindly attempt to **respond** to at least **one** of the specific challenges. I will read your points: Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.htmlfeature=shared May the Lord Jesus bless you.
@@BiblicalBinitarian I can show you many places in the holy bible, but if you don’t have understanding from God (YHWH) then it would be impossible for a simple person like myself to explain it. I’m not that smart, sorry I’ll pray for you that’s about all I can do. 🙏
Thanks. I respect the case you are making for the Trinity from the Bible. I used to teach, preach, and believe similarly. Would you consider giving me a fair hearing from the Scriptures? Let me know specifically if the Bible explicitly teaches threefold love of the Father for the Spirit and the Son. We believe that the Son is fully divine and has always been the Father's beloved Son. But what verse teaches directly that there is threefold love between three divine persons? What's Missing in the Trinity Triangle? ruclips.net/user/shortsxOx9BhwthCA?feature=shared Please kindly attempt to **respond** to at least **one** of the specific challenges. I will read your points: Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.htmlfeature=shared May the Lord Jesus bless you.
The trinity is hinted at in the bible multiple times, if you look at Genesis it says we made man in our image, my understanding is that There is 1 god and 3 persons, also how would someone even be able to come up with the trinity if it was a false religion, would they not attempt to make it as easy as possible to get more followers. Genesis 1:26-28
Beloved, it is also written in the Bible that after Adam sinned, he became like one of us. After that sin, whom did he become like? Was like Jesus like the Father or like the Holy Spirit? Genesis 3:22 [22]And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.” Trinity is not the base of bible
Certainly disbelieved those who say, "Indeed Allah (is the) third (of) three." And (there is) no [of] god except (the) God (the) One. And if not they desist from what they are saying surely will afflict those who disbelieved among them, a punishment painful. Quran 5:73
Yes. We Do believe this. I have read and reread the Quran. There is more amazing truth about Jesus in the Gospels. You should read the Gospel of Luke or the Gospel of Mark and see for yourself.
Quran: Chapter 19 name: Maryam (Mary) Verses 30 to 35: -[Jesus] said, "Indeed, I am the servant of Allah/God . He has given me the Scripture and made me a prophet. -And He has made me blessed wherever I am and has enjoined upon me prayer and zakah (charity) as long as I remain alive. -And [made me] dutiful to my mother, and He has not made me a wretched tyrant. -And peace is on me the day I was born and the day I will die and the day I am raised alive." -That is Jesus, the son of Mary - the word of truth about which they are in dispute. -It is not [befitting] for Allah to take a son; exalted is He! When He decrees an affair, He only says to it, "Be," and it is
We are a trinity ourselves Soul,Spirit, body We are God's image THE FATHER IS THE SOUL THE SON IS THE BODY THE HOLY SPIRIT IS THE SPIRIT OF GOD Its that easy
Thanks for posting. As a biblically committed, Trinitarian minister, I have spent 25+ years attempting to make that analogy work. Surprisingly, most Trinitarian scholars reject the tri-part view of humans, due to solid Biblical arguments (e.g., soul in the Old Testament refers to your entire living being, in the New Testament several passages use soul and spirit as parallel synonyms, and others clearly teach body-spirit composition). See Wayne Grudems Systematic Theology for a thorough review of all the evidence. Most importantly, is there anyone in the New Testament who makes this comparison? No one. So, you are on your own. As with many arguments for the Trinity. Would you watch this video and let me know your responses in the comments? Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.html
Thanks for posting. Here is a related video that reviews arguments that Trinitarians should no longer use. Sorry to say, but this one is one of them. ruclips.net/video/gtuktZFEBTI/видео.html Would you also watch this video and let me know your responses in the comments? Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.html
@SANA_KHAN688 we are the fisical copy of God which means we are children of God that's the meaning of The son of God The only difference is the first adam is adopted by the devil and the second Adam is our redemption . Jesus who is God redeems the image of The son of God which everyone that is born in sin
„For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one.“ I John 5:7 NKJV This verse wraps the debate up
Hi. Thanks for posting. Almost 30 years ago, one of the verses that convinced me of the Trinity was 1 John 5:7 (KJV). However, I was surprised when I researched further and discovered that it is widely known that this verse is not included in John's original epistle. Even the New King James Version notes: "Only 4 or 5 very late mss. contain these words in Greek." Link www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+john+5&version=NKJV#fen-NKJV-30632b Additionally, Martin Luther did not include it in his translation from the Greek Text to German since it was not in the original editions of Erasmus' critical text. Let me know if you are open to learning more about this topic. May the Lord Jesus bless you.
There are numerous times throughout Jesus’ life when He clearly & unquestionably has direct dialogue with His Father in Heaven; along with there being numerous examples of Jesus directly interacting with the Holy Ghost; so how can this be if there is no Holy Trinity? Bottom line: Our Creator/God is “1 God” consisting of “3 Persons”.
Thanks for posting. By the way, thinking through these topics is what led me to become a Biblical Binitarian. We believe in two fully divine royal family heads, the Father and the Son. The Father and the Son speak to each other throughout the Scriptures (even in the Old Testament - see Psalm 2 and Psalm 110). However, I noticed that above you were unable to state that Jesus dialogued with the Holy Spirit (a third person). We believe in the reality of God's spirit; we believe in the divinity of God's spirit; we believe in the personality of God's spirit. However, we object to the claim that the Holy Spirit must be a third person, along with the Father and the Son. We believe that the Father and the Son are united as one divine spirit. This Video Demonstrates a Major Challenge ruclips.net/video/ABKSoen1YyQ/видео.htmlfeature=shared Would you watch this video and let me know your responses in the comments? Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.html
@@MrMathoks when I pray to God I ask him for a favor, I adore Him, I praise Him And I do my best to glorify Him. When I pray to Mary our blessed Mother, I ask her pray for me to Our God. It's really just that simple. It's the same as you asking your friends or family to pray for you... Assuming you are a Christian. Apologies if I'm incorrect
@@machinesdaily247 This might be too complex for your level of knowledge but the "queen of heaven" aka Me-ri, "The Beloved One" in Medu Netjer that you pray to is not the mother of the Messiah and the so called "heavenly father" is not the Hebrew God. Let me introduce you to the actual Queen of Heaven. Jeremiah 7:18 "The children gather wood, the fathers light the fire, and the women knead the dough and make cakes to offer to the Queen of Heaven. They pour out drink offerings to other gods to arouse my anger." You will find more and a reference to where the Israelites got it from in chapter 44. You have been deceived but you can keep praying to your goddess if you want Personally, I don't ask anyone to pray for me. And Mary is dead. My God does not approve of praying to dead people
Haha. That literally made me laugh. What you may not know is that I have been reaching out to many. But they will not debate me.Since you said any Trinitarian would you be willing to debate me on 2 Corinthians 3:14-18 or Matthew 11:25-27 or even John 14:15-24? Email me and we can set it up any week. Unless you are willing to admit that you personally 0 are not able to.
trinitarians can only use philosophy pf men and mental gymnastics and read their doctrine into texts..in reality scripture wipes the floor with trinitarians
Nah, I'm actually pretty new to this YT channel thing. This was one of my first short videos. I genuinely love the Lord, His Word, and all of His people. Here is a video that explains where I am coming from. Why Would a Trinitarian Reject the Trinity: Part 1 ruclips.net/video/x7WMBgBu44U/видео.htmlfeature=shared Let me know if you have any questions. The Lord Jesus bless you.
The trinity is a God dishonouring demonic doctrine. If you read the Bible without the input of man, you would NEVER come to the trinity doctrine. The trinity is an embarrassment to true Christians. Well said, my brother.
I definitely have no love lost for the Trinity, and I am confident that this confusion is from the enemy. But there are true Christians who incorrectly believe in the Trinity. I not only know many, but I was one of them. Let's pray for them and not quit until we tear down this misguided false doctrine.
@BiblicalBinitarian you are right my brother, I do not condemn all who follow this demon inspired doctrine, I am aware that many are sincere and would give their life for this man's doctrine. It makes it all the more imperative to get the truth out there.
I've read a forum, you can search it, basically said, there was inherent risk of the methods Bible is preserve till today. There is a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy. I've found the forum (twice of different website) when I search about the missing verse and the other verse that have different translation. Or, even I can add in my own term, a translation of a translation of a translation, also revision of revision. Yes, some would defend that, but at the end of the day, it is a holy book. And those small rift become larger. And that's how it is, someone mislead or change or whatever according to their agenda, and produce trinity. It is a holy book, remember.
Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. Proverbs 3:5-6
@Rose A Hi , I have been reviewing the conversation about whether GOD is one. And I do see the problem first of all unless one is fluent in Hebrew the meaning get confused in the translation of the Hebrew text. Secondly what you as well as the trinitarians are describing is someone with Dissociative identity disorder, also know as multiple personality disorder. Please read the definition I have provided for you okay. Dissociative identity disorder is characterized by the presence of two or more distinct personality identities. Each may have a unique name, personal history, and characteristics. Dissociative identity disorder, previously called multiple personality disorder, is usually a reaction to trauma as a way to help a person avoid bad memories. Source Mayo Clinic GOD is NOT schizophrenic okay, neither does He have a multi personality disorder. Thirdly the reason you can’t understandThe Nature of GOD is because you are not Born Again. JESUS CHRIST/ YEHOSHUA HAMASHIACH said in John 3:3 except you are Born Again you can NOT ‘ SEE’ The Kingdom of GOD.” That word ‘SEE’ in Hebrew is ראה and it means to perceive , or to understand. Thus Christ is saying except you are Born Again you will not be able to understand what The Kingdom of GOD is all about. Okay my friend, once you have been born again of water and of The Spirit you won’t be able to understand. Now the instructions on how to be Born Again , is found in Acts2:38 the key man Peter tells us how! You seem like a beautiful person and The LORD sent me here to help you as well as others on this page, to find TRUTH! Now whether you will hear or forbear is up to you. I am praying for you because I really do care!😊
We as humans do not grasp what or how exactly God is. I understand it like this. God is almighty, omnipotent, without being or end. Divine. Yeshua his begotten because it comes from the Father. Subject to the Father. Divine. The mediator, the word,the creator. Hole Spirit the power that emanates from God and wills anything that Gods wants to be done. I don’t know that it has a form as it says of the Father and Son. So it isn’t easy to understand but I am aware that there’s each one and for my salvation I know that there’s a God YHWH his Son Yeshua and the Holy Spirit. Rev says that there’s more things we will learn after all of this. So I pray for wisdom, endurance, holding on because we are humans. Yes, we can not lean on our or people’s understanding I don’t push it on people because what if I’m saying something that is not so in everything I keep praying for guidance.
Notice he doesn't actually disprove the trinity, let alone even attempt to. Why? Because he can't. He can tell you how he would go about it, but he's never ac5ually disproved it himself. Just as a husband and wife become one flesh, the father, the son, and the Holy Spirit are one God. You don't have to understand how something works to know that it works. God himself said that His nature and His ways are beyond human comprehension. Notice the bible says "He is one" one has other meanings. An egg for instance is one egg. It's made up of a shell, a yolk, and the white, but it's still just 1 egg. A candy bar is mult8ple ingredients, but still one candy bar. The human body is made up of multiple cells and organs and appendages, but it's still 1 body. It's really not that hard to understand. Only an unregenerate heart and an apostate would have issues with understanding. When you say jesus isn't also God, you are denying your only hope for salvation which intern makes you an apostate. Apostasy is renouncing your faith. Our faith is that christ died for our sins and we are now forgiven. How could christ die for our sins if he was only a human? God said that humanity is fallen and corrupted. There are verses that prove Jesus has to be God. Isaiah , God said that He alone will be our savior. How are we saved? Through the death of christ. If jesus isn't God, then God didn't save us as He said. On the other hand, if jesus isn't God, but God said in isiaiah that He alone would be our salvation, then He lied by sending jesus as our salvation. Paul even says "it was jesus who led the israelites through the desert as a flame by night and a pillar of smoke by day. All of you saying jesus isn't also God, are denying your only savior and hope for salvation. This guy is a goat. A tare, leading you all astray from your Lord.😢 Last th8ng to consider: if the holy ghost isn't a person, why does jesus refer to him as a helper? Why is He considered a He? If it isn't a living person, how can He be grieved? For instance, I can't grieve my car. I can grieve my dog by teasing him with food. But I can't grieve the food by feeding it to the dog.
Not in this YT Short but in this video I do. Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.html Let me know your responses to any of the 5 challenges for Trinitarians.
@BiblicalBinitarian ok. I watched it and I'm still not convinced. Here's a challenge from me to you: if the holy spirit isn't a person of the trinity, why does jesus tell us that when we are baptized, we are to do so in "the name of the father, the son, and of the Holy spirit"? Why add the holy spirit in there if its just The father and the son? Wouldn't jesus just say "baptize in the name of the father and the son"? Part 2: the bible warns us not to grieve the Holy spirit. As far as i know, a non-living thing cannot be grieved. A non-personal thing cannot be grieved. I can't grieve a tree by cutting it down, but I can grieve my neighbor for cutting his tree down. I can't grieve my car by not putting oil in it, but I can grieve myself when the engine blows because of it. How is it possible to grieve something that isn't alive and personal? It's not. Logically speaking. Also, jesus calls him the helper. How can a non living thing be a helper?
Is there any point in trying to convince a man of the Trinity, when he denies Christ himself? It is like trying to explain calculus to someone who doesn't know basic math. 😕
Thanks for posting. No, I definitely believe that the Father made all things through the Son of God. I assume that you have not heard someone make the Biblical case for Binitarianism. Here are two brief videos that do the job. We have more. But let me know your initial thoughts. 7 Reasons Why Paul Was Binitarian ruclips.net/video/iLuAq0XCa5E/видео.htmlfeature=shared Why the Trinity Triangle is Wrong ruclips.net/user/shortsxOx9BhwthCA?feature=shared May the Lord Jesus bless you.
Part of Deuteronomy 6:4 says, The LORD our God is one LORD; God is 3 in 1, so 3 divine beings make up God, and even though there are 3 beings in God, it makes up one, so yes, there is one God and one Lord but the three persons are not Lords, they make up a Lord. If I confused you, sorry I make things hard to understand.
Thanks. I respect the case you are making for the Trinity from the Bible. I used to teach, preach, and believe similarly. Would you consider giving me a fair hearing from the Scriptures? Let me know if the Bible explicitly teaches threefold love of the Father for the Spirit and the Son. We believe that the Son is fully divine and has always been the Father's beloved Son. But what verse teaches directly that there is threefold love between three divine persons? What's Missing in the Trinity Triangle? ruclips.net/user/shortsxOx9BhwthCA?feature=shared Please kindly attempt to **respond** to at least **one** of the specific challenges. I will read your points: Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.htmlfeature=shared May the Lord Jesus bless you.
The Hebrew word for "one" in Deuteronomy 6:4 is very complicated. It can mean: another into one, one and on another, unique, united, one will to another, etc. It has a lot of different meanings. However, the point is that there is a plurality which is within that Hebrew word for "one". Thus, Moses saying "One" can literally mean "many in one."
If you will read the entire chapter of that scripture, you will find that it is not about the Godhead of the Bible. When I started reading the Bible I wrote these things down as topic of my studies in the Godhead of the bible; Who is God. About God. Who is Jesus. About Jesus. What is the Holy Spirit. About the Holy Spirit. First and foremost we are instructed and warned to not add nor take away from God's word ie add ANY religious belief that has been handed down to you by any man. You find such great treasure if you will do that. Also having a Strongs Concordance you will have access to finding that God's name is not God and Jesus is not the true name of the Son of God in the NT....and innumerable pearls of truth that the author of the Bible will be revealed to you. You need no man to teach you anything, and it is our responsibility to search God' word to know if the things of the religious are true. Happy Studies
Hi. Thanks for posting. Almost 30 years ago, one of the verses that convinced me of the Trinity was 1 John 5:7 (KJV). However, I was surprised when I researched further and discovered that it is widely known that this verse is not included in John's original epistle. Even the New King James Version notes: "Only 4 or 5 very late mss. contain these words in Greek." Link www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+john+5&version=NKJV#fen-NKJV-30632b Additionally, Martin Luther did not include it in his translation from the Greek Text to German since it was not in the original editions of Erasmus' critical text. Let me know if you are open to learning more about this topic. May the Lord Jesus bless you. What's Missing in the Trinity Triangle? ruclips.net/user/shortsxOx9BhwthCA?feature=shared
Thanks for posting. Let's check out all the claims of the Trinity. Here is my Trinitarian chart (I will be generous): Deut 6:04 God is One 1 Mat 3:16 3 Distinct Persons 1/2 Mat 28:19 One God is 3 Persons 1/2 John 14:15-17 Father is Not the Spirit 1/2 John 16:07-15 Father is Not the Spirit 1/2 Acts 5:01-05 Holy Spirit is God -1 Actually teaches "the God" is the Holy Spirit. 1 Co 8:5-6 One God is 3 Persons -1 2 Co 13:11-14 3 Distinct Persons 1/2 2 Co 3:14-18 The Lord is the Spirit -1 Mat 11:27 Spirit and Father Know Son -1 Mat 11:27 Spirit and Son Know Father -1 1 Jo 4:13-14 Father Does Not Give Out of Own His Spirit -1 ================================== Total Score: -2.5 out of 12 ================================= For our analysis of these Trinity proof text passages: ruclips.net/p/PLYGQCKKPeelrXBvfSVGmdNblbf788L9ZG
@@BiblicalBinitarian You know what, you can't say the Bible is wrong ok? Trinity exists. Also, is this a test in the Bible to give numbers and add like marks? In simplest statements, God is one, but in 3 forms. The three forms are the same but different. I know it doesn't make sense but this is the truth.
1 John 5:7 (NKJV) For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one. John 1:1 (NKJV) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Hi. Thanks for posting. Almost 30 years ago, one of the verses that convinced me of the Trinity was 1 John 5:7 (KJV). However, I was surprised when I researched further and discovered that it is widely known that this verse is not included in John's original epistle. Even the New King James Version notes: "Only 4 or 5 very late mss. contain these words in Greek." Link www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+john+5&version=NKJV#fen-NKJV-30632b Additionally, Martin Luther did not include it in his translation from the Greek Text to German since it was not in the original editions of Erasmus' critical text. Let me know if you are open to learning more about this topic or about what Biblical Binitarians believe. May the Lord Jesus bless you. What's Missing in the Trinity Triangle? ruclips.net/user/shortsxOx9BhwthCA?feature=shared
Thanks for the question. Simply put, I love Christ, and He calls is to refute error. Would you watch this video and let me know your responses in the comments. Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.html
Because it true also only way to get heaven for more ““Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.” - Acts 2:38
Thanks for the engagement. Are you aware that the words of 1 John 5:7 do not appear in any Greek text prior to the 10th century? Even the *NKJV* includes a note on this verse saying, "Only 4 or 5 very late mss. contain these words in Greek."www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+John+5&version=NKJV#fen-NKJV-30632b Their first appearance is as a side note in the margin of a 10th century manuscript. Next, they appeared in an official text in the 16th century. Now I know that John the Apostle lived a long life, but if you believe he wrote "these three are one" you have to believe he lived to the age of 1600 and was still tweaking his 1st epistle for centuries. Maybe 1,600 years was how long it took him before he finally understood the Trinity ; ) John seemed to already believe that the Father and the Son were one from the beginning: John 10:30, John 17:11, 17:21 17:22-23. The KJV incorrectly included 1 John 5:7 due to Erasmus' final version of his Greek text. The earlier versions of Erasmus' text did not include it because he could not find *any* Greek manuscripts that contained it. Are you aware that even Martin Luther did not include 1 John 5:7 in his German translation of the Bible because it was not in Erasmus' first two editions? The NET Bible notes by Trinitarians explain the late Origins of "these three are one" in 1 John 5:7 www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+john+5&version=NET#fen-NET-30616t You should check out this series for our analysis of common Trinity proof text passages: ruclips.net/p/PLYGQCKKPeelrXBvfSVGmdNblbf788L9ZG Enjoy.
Trinity is a 3rd century concept to bring order to the Christian world. Jesus came to earth and broadcasted God's words. Here is God's quote in Duetoronomy 👇 Deuteronomy 18:18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. Deuteronomy 18:19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him. Jesus then says he speaks from God's authority, not his. 👇 John 14:10-11 New International Version 10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. 11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves Here is God proclaiming his son, Jesus Christ👇 Matthew 3:17 New International Version 17 And a voice from heaven said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.” EDIT: SEE BELOW👇
Thanks. Here are a few videos that you may enjoy. Let me know your thoughts. The Lord Jesus bless you. Why We Do Not Believe in Two Gods ruclips.net/video/LBiuDxTIHkg/видео.html 7 Reasons Why Paul Was Binitarian ruclips.net/video/iLuAq0XCa5E/видео.htmlfeature=shared
EDIT: I'm at a conflict I must admit, asking God for answers.. In the OT , Zechariah 12:10 Him Whom They Have Pierced 10 “And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and pleas for mercy, so that, when they look on me, on him whom they have pierced, they shall mourn for him, as one mourns for an only child, and weep bitterly over him, as one weeps over a firstborn" This passage predicts the crucifiction of Yahusha (Jesus). And God is speaking in oneness with Yahusha (Jesus) as if they're the same. Also in 2 Peter 1:1 "Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ have received a faith as precious as ours:" Several versions are also calling Jesus God. The Aramiac bible says "Lord and Savior". However, in Isaiah God (Yahuah/Yahweh) states HE is the Savior Isaiah 43:11: "Apart from Me, there is no savior" Isaiah 12:2: "God is my savior; I will trust him and not be afraid. The LORD gives me power and strength; he is my savior" Isaiah 49:26: "All flesh shall know that I the lord am thy Saviour" Isaiah 45:15: "O God of Israel, the Saviour" And Genesis 1:26, we see God starts speaking to someone for the first time Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness" Who is God (Yahweh) speaking to? I rule out the Angels because as far as I know Angels do not have the power to create. Is Yahweh speaking to Jesus? Holy Spirit? I'm starting to suspect Yahweh, Jesus and possibly Holy Spirit are conjoined together like Siamese twins (or triplets). I'm looking at this as an investigator, what are your thoughts?
Thanks for posting. Would you watch this video and let me know your responses in the comments. Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.html
Hello. Actually, I did spendmany years assuming a threefold unity was possible for the Hebrew word "one" in Deuteronomy 6:4. I attempted to argue that since there are a few instances where the Hebrew word **echad** refers to a compound unity (see Genesis 2:4), then this is what it **must** have also meant in Deut. 6:4. Aside from this not being a solid argument, what I sadly missed was that in all of the few places where echad refers to a compound unity those few passages also explicitly state what is being united (e.g., the two shall become one, night and day as one day, two sticks as one stick, all the men of Israel assembled one man, eyc.). Deuteronomy 6:4 does not include language providing specific details of a combined divine unity. Unfortunately, that must be assumed. Amazingly, none of the authentic verses of God's Word (Hebrew or Greek) contains a statement like "the three are one" applying to the Father, the Son, and the Spirit. None. Ironically, we have several that say that the Father and Son are united as one (John 10:30, John 17:11, 17:21 17:22-23). This is clearly one of the major differences between Biblical Binitarianism and the Trinity. Please let me know if you have any objections.
I have asked many others who do not respond, but would you watch this video and let me know your responses in the comments? Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.html
Here is my Trinitarian chart (I will be generous): Deut 6:04 God is One 1 Mat 3:16 3 Distinct Persons 1/2 Mat 28:19 One God is 3 Persons 1/2 John 14:15-17 Father is Not the Spirit 1/2 John 16:07-15 Father is Not the Spirit 1/2 Acts 5:01-05 Holy Spirit is God -1 Actually teaches "the God" is the Holy Spirit. 1 Co 8:5-6 One God is 3 Persons -1 2 Co 13:11-14 3 Distinct Persons 1/2 2 Co 3:14-18 The Lord is the Spirit -1 Mat 11:27 Spirit and Father Know Son -1 Mat 11:27 Spirit and Son Know Father -1 1 Jo 4:13-14 Father Does Not Give Out of Own His Spirit -1 ================================== Total Score: -2.5 out of 12 ================================= For our analysis of these Trinity proof text passages: ruclips.net/p/PLYGQCKKPeelrXBvfSVGmdNblbf788L9ZG
@Mason Great, but only after 20+ years of trying. Specifically, how do the charts below prove the Trinity :) Here is my Trinitarian chart (I will be generous): Deut 6:04 God is One 1 Mat 3:16 3 Distinct Persons 1/2 Mat 28:19 One God is 3 Persons 1/2 John 14:15-17 Father is Not the Spirit 1/2 John 16:07-15 Father is Not the Spirit 1/2 Acts 5:01-05 Holy Spirit is God -1 Actually teaches "the God" is the Holy Spirit. 1 Co 8:5-6 One God is 3 Persons -1 2 Co 13:11-14 3 Distinct Persons 1/2 2 Co 3:14-18 The Lord is the Spirit -1 Mat 11:27 Spirit and Father Know Son -1 Mat 11:27 Spirit and Son Know Father -1 1 Jo 4:13-14 Father Does Not Give Out of Own His Spirit -1 ================================== Total Score: -2.5 out of 12 ================================= For our analysis of these Trinity proof text passages: ruclips.net/p/PLYGQCKKPeelrXBvfSVGmdNblbf788L9ZG
@Mason Nice try. But let's answer specifics. What about these that negated by Scripture (hence the -1). Explain why these verses do not negate core Trinitarian claims. Please kindly be specific, or I will assume you are unable to. 1 Co 8:5-6 One God is 3 Persons -1 2 Co 3:14-18 The Lord is the Spirit -1 Mat 11:27 Spirit and Father Know Son -1 Mat 11:27 Spirit and Son Know Father -1 1 Jo 4:13-14 Father Does Not Give Out of Own His Spirit -1
Those who say, “Allah is one in a Trinity,” have certainly fallen into disbelief. There is only One God. If they do not stop saying this, those who disbelieve among them will be afflicted with a painful punishment Quran ( 5:73) and to warn those who claim, “Allah has offspring. They have no knowledge of this, nor did their forefathers. What a terrible claim that comes out of their mouths! They say nothing but lies. Quran (18:4-5) O People of the Book! Do not go to extremes regarding your faith; say nothing about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, was no more than a messenger of Allah and the fulfilment of His Word through Mary and a spirit ˹created by a command˺ from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers and do not say, “Trinity.” Stop!-for your own good. Allah is only One God. Glory be to Him! He is far above having a son! To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And Allah is sufficient as a Trustee of Affairs. Quran (4:171)
Thanks for the response. I have read and reread the Quaran (an English interpretation). Here are a few of my questions. Since you are convinced that you follow Jesus, the Messiah, I would ask you what you think about Jesus? Jesus is so great that He is even described in the **Quran** like no one else: 1) Jesus was born of a virgin 2) Jesus is the promised messiah (the Anointed One), not just a prophet. 3) He did a multitude of miracles. More than any other human. 4) Jesus is the only human to live a sinless life. This is even greater than His miracles. He obeyed His God as a Son. 5) Jesus has an entire holy book about Him (Injil). Though Muhammad never read it, he instructed Muslims to read it. In what specific Surah and Ayah did Muhammad say the Injil had been corrupted? Have you read the preserved ancient manuscripts that were around in the time of Muhammad when he spoke strongly about the Injil? 6) Jesus has followers and is known all over the world. This is just as the Old Testament prophets said hundreds of years before His birth. He is known for His love and the gift of salvation to all nations. 7) Jesus will return again. Bonus: The Gospel (Injil) teaches that Jesus fulfills the prophetic words of Abraham (Torah) and King David (the Zabur) that God would provide Himself a sacrifice in the same place where Abraham prepared to offer his son. God actually fulfilled this by offering His Son for our sins. I look forward to your responses.
HI. I am not a sabbatarian. I live under the Law of the Messiah in place of the Law of Moses. I hope this passage clarifies what I believe. 1 Corinthians 9:20-21, ESV 20 To the Jews I became as a Jew, in order to win Jews. To those under the law I became as one under the law (though *not* being myself under the law) that I might win those under the law. 21 To those outside the law I became as one outside the law (not being outside the law of God but *under* the law of Christ) that I might win those outside the law.
That's an interesting argument. However, if you don't mind, may I point out one big problem: No one in the Bible ever makes this analogy. Would you consider reviewing this video and posting your comments. I look forward to your responses. Enjoy. Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.html
those arent 3 seperate entities those are all me. literally calling God your Father negates you being equal or identical to Him. who is the father or mother of God? God? wake up
@Jared G Deuteronomy 4:6 "Hear O'Israel! Lord is our God, God is one(Echad). Echad means separate entities combined together. Jesus himself said this.
We are Biblical Binitarians, so we agree. I have asked many others who do not respond, but would you watch this video and let me know your responses in the comments? Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.html
I agree. In the beginning, the Word was with [the] God, and the Word was God. The Son has always been with God, the definitive deity, the Son has always been deity. Here is what we believe as Biblical Binitarians. 22 Affirmations and Denials drive.google.com/file/d/1e9WiUpstTF_ocMjomUmn8ggyrZ_sctrn/ Playlist ruclips.net/p/PLYGQCKKPeelpSdUBrTYQ1OVfiDxFEr3mq Why I Became a Biblical Binitarian: Mario Shepard a.co/d/bM0H9FT
As regards the doctrine of the trinity Jesus is very clear: He states to be ALWAYS in a PERMANENT EXTREMELY CLOSE UNION WITH THE FATHER "I am in the Father and the Father is in me". PERIOD! This is REITERATED by Jesus FOUR GOSPELS OF TIMES. You can see from Jesus' statements that He is ONLY WITH THE FATHER, this is even clearly SPECIFIED more times by Him (" I am not ALONE because..."). In other words JESUS - who is "WELL INFORMED" on this matter - IS NOT TRINITARIAN! We must trust Him! The trinity doctrine comes from a poor understanding of the four gospels: it isn't understood that they disclose three divine NAMES, not three divine PERSONS! This means that those THREE names must map onto TWO divine persons. Indeed 1. God and 2. the Spirit of God (God who is a spirit) are just TWO different PERSPECTIVES of the same ONE almighty God.
Thanks Claudio. I have recently checked out your channel. You seem to have some original angles on the Father and the Son. I would be interested in dialog ing with you Please send me an email: BiblicalBinitarian@gmail.com.
Yes you’re right there is only ONE: Jesus Christ said that He is the Father and The Holy Ghost : “Philip saith unto Him, Lord, SHEW US THE FATHER, and it sufficeth us. Jesus saith unto him, HAVE I BEEN SO LONG TIME WITH YOU, AND YET HAST THOU NOT KNOWN ME, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?” John 14:8-9 “But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost…” John 14:26 ”I will not leave you comfortless: I WILL COME TO YOU.” John 14:18
All born again sons are one with the father. Read the rest of John. Romans 1:3-4, Isaiah 40:3 in hebrew refutes your understanding of the corrupted gospels.
@@RoseSharon7777 “Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.” Acts 2:38-39
@@FreeinChristForever Unfortunately you havent figured out what the name of Jesus christ means. May i suggest you read the OT using a lexicon. Its NOT a human being.
If you do not believe that GOD is one in three persons namely the FATHER, SON and The HOLY SPIRIT. Can you then explain this passage for me: “Come near to Me, hear this: I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; From the time that it was, I was there. And now the Lord God and His Spirit Have sent Me.” Isaiah 48:16 NKJV To me it seems like GOD is referring to another person as GOD, the one who sends him and his SPIRIT. If the HOLY TRINITY doesn't make sense to you, its ok you can't understand an eternal being.
Thanks for posting. Great question. It is my prayer to a video on this verse one day. When I approach any passage I ask at least 5 questions. 1) What are Trinitarians claiming and assuming a about? 2) Are there any words from the text that need to be clarified by the original languages (Hebrew or Greek)? 3) What does the text itself actually say? 4) What must the text assume from the words and the context? 5) Are there any other *strongly* related passages that provide more clarity and confirmation? For Isaiah 48:16, let's answer these questions. 1) Trinitarians claim that Jesus is speaking in the first person, especially in verse 16. Most assume that the reference to the LORD God is a reference to the Father. The Father is the one who sent the Son. They also assume that his spirit, the LORD God's spirit does not refer simply to the LORD God's own divine spirit, but a distinct divine person, the Holy Spirit. Let me know if this is correct. 2) For the text, let's look at the NET, ESV, and the NRSV, all strong translations. NET: "Approach me-listen to this! From the very first I have not spoken in secret; when it happens, I am there.” So now, the Sovereign Lord has sent me, accompanied by his Spirit. ESV: Draw near to me, hear this: from the beginning I have not spoken in secret, from the time it came to be I have been there. And now the Lord God has sent me, and his Spirit. NRSV: Draw near to me; hear this! From the beginning I have not spoken in secret; from the time it came to be I have been there. And now the Lord God has sent me and his spirit. There are not any major differences. The NRSV uses lowercase for spirit in the Old Testament, because the Hebrew does not require a capital or lowercase. The ESV and NRSV translate the last line as "the Lord God has sent me and his spirit." The NET has "accompanied by his Spirit." The NET is making is emphasizing the proximity and personal closeness. The Hebrew is not as specific. If you are good up to this point please kindly reply and I will provide my explanation of the next three points. Be blessed.
Excellent. 3) The identity of the speaker in 48:16b is inconclusive. I believe that Isaiah 48:12-16a is the LORD God. I believe that 48:16b is Cyrus (see points #4 and #5 below). There are two major reasons for this. First, the text does not provide a specific identification for the speaker of 48:16b. You will notice that most translations end after the quotation from 48:12 at 48:16a. "from the time it came to be I have been there." See NIV, ESV, NET, NRSV, HCSB, etc. The NKJV and NASB include 48:16b in the entire quotation. Most people miss this point. Everything from 48:12 - 48:16a is clearly the LORD God. But Isaiah 48:16b is an abrupt declaration of an unidentified speaker. The only two requirements are that the speaker must be someone sent by the LORD and someone whom God has given His spirit to. Cyrus, the prophesied Persian King, is all of these things, specifically called God's anointed (Isaiah 45:1): "Thus says the Lord to his anointed, to *Cyrus* whose right hand I have grasped, to subdue nations before him and to loose the belts of kings, to open doors before him that gates may not be closed." Another example similar to this passage is Isaiah 46:8-11. This is where context provides us with the clues. 4) Major points about Cyrus. Most people are unaware that Isaiah 48:16b comes right at the end of an extended section about the LORD AND King Cyrus (from Isaiah 44:21 to Isaiah 48:22). Throughout these five chapters, the LORD God repeatedly describes Himself as the one who has been speaking from the beginning. The one who laid the foundation of the earth. He is the one who will accomplish His purposes for Israel. He also repeatedly refers to Cyrus by name as His coming "shepherd" (44:28), "His anointed" (45:1), the one He "calls by name" (45:3-4), the one He "stirred up in righteousness" (45:13), "the man of His counsel" (46:11), and "His ally" (48:14), who will accomplish His plan to end Israel's Babylonian captivity. Therefore, all commentators acknowledge Cyrus' significance as a Persian whom God calls and names and uses to set His people free. Therefore, this is recognized as the Cyrus section of Isaiah. See also 2 Chronicles 36:22-23, the book of Ezra, and Daniel 6). 5) When we also consider that neither the Lord Jesus nor the Apostles applied this passage to Christ, we can not conclusively do the same. We can also note that Isaiah 48:20 is the final mention of Bablylon and Chaldea for the remainder of the book of Isaiah.Chapters 44-48 end with the LORD God saying, "Go out from Babylon, flee from Chaldea ... 'The LORD has redeemed his servant Jacob!" *Conclusion* The NET Bible study notes state regarding Isaiah 48:16b, "The speaker here is not identified specifically, but he is probably Cyrus, the LORD's 'ally' mentioned in vv. 14-15." I agree. Some translations and commentators (e.g., John Calvin) view 48:16b as the introduction to 48:17-19, making the prophet Isaiah the speaker. Please let me know your thoughts and comments I explore passages like this and others in my book, "Why I Became a Biblical Binitarian." a.co/d/bM0H9FT Here is a video where I explain some of the next-level challenges for the Trinity. Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.html May God greatly bless you for reading this much.
@@BiblicalBinitarian great answer, the question for biblical proof that I understood is that GOD has attributes that only belong to him alone such as ALPHA and OMEGA, THE BEGINNING and THE END...etc. Those names/attributes are for GOD ALMIGHTY only, if anyone claims them for himself is blasphemer*. I get your argument about the Isaiah passage, there's a similar concept in Genesis 19 vs 24 " Then the Lord rained brimstone and fire on Sodom and Gomorrah, from the Lord out of the heavens." Even here there's two people referred to as LORD in my understanding. There's also quite a few verses where the attributes of GOD are given to His SON and His SPIRIT. Here is video of one explaining the trinity, maybe you'll get some understanding.
Thanks for posting. I assume that you have not heard someone make the Biblical case for Binitarianism. Here are two brief videos that do the job. We have more. But let me know your initial thoughts. 7 Reasons Why Paul Was Binitarian ruclips.net/video/iLuAq0XCa5E/видео.htmlfeature=shared Why the Trinity Triangle is Wrong ruclips.net/user/shortsxOx9BhwthCA?feature=shared May the Lord Jesus bless you.
LOL. Good one. But you already know that I am closer to Athanasius than I am to Arius. I am Binitarian in the following ways: 1. Distinct Identites of God and Christ. 2. Full Divinity of God and Christ. 3. The Eternity of God and Christ. 4. The Unity of God and Christ as one spirit. Except for #1, Arius would not hold to all of these. I agree with Arius in only two ways. 1. Reject complex monotheism (multiple persons in the One God). 2. Belief in the subordinationism of the Son to the Father. Here are a few videos that you may enjoy. Let me know your thoughts. Is Jesus the Most High God? ruclips.net/user/shortsc7HzCyzd_m4?feature=share Why We Do Not Believe in Two Gods ruclips.net/video/LBiuDxTIHkg/видео.html 7 Reasons Why Paul Was Binitarian ruclips.net/video/iLuAq0XCa5E/видео.htmlfeature=shared May the Lord Jesus bless you.
"No responsible NT scholar would claim that the doctrine of the Trinity was taught by Jesus or preached by the earliest Christians or consciously held by any writer of the NT. It was in fact slowly worked out in the course of the first few centuries…" (Hanson, Anthony Tyrrell. The Image of the Invisible God.)
Trinity simply describes what is taught. God is one - father son and holy ghost. God the Father and the Holy spirit don't get jealous when you glorify Jesus. They are one. You honour -worship- one you worship or honour them all. Not a problem
@@senkat8747 🗡THE ADDED TRINITY HERESY OF JOHN 5 THE TRUTH IN THE ORIGINAL GREEK! ❤ 1 John 5:6-8 Greek Orinlginal Version 6 This is he that came by water and blood, Jesus Christ, not by water only, but by water and blood, and the Spirit beareth witness, because the spirit is truth. ✅️7These three they are for the witnessing, 8 the spirit, the water, and the blood, and these three agree in one.✅️ 🔥When he was nailed to the cross the water and the blood that leaked from his side when he was pierced by the spear was for a witness of the truth, and the Spirit of truth that came over those who saw and knew right away from His teachings of blood and water prophecy of psalms 22 is a witness in itself.🔥 John 19:34-35 KJV 34 But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water. 35 And he that saw it bare record, and his record is true: and he knoweth that he saith true, that ye might believe. 🔥Come out of Nicolatians/Nicaean Council Heresy doctrines that are the seat of Satan's foundation. The 1st beast in Revelations 13 is The Roman Empire and Roman Catholic Church, and The Second beast that rose to power after the first beast fell out of power was America and Westernized Christianity. Pointing the world back to worshipping the first beast, Nicaean/Nicolatians doctrines 3 in 1 Trinity Heresy.🔥 🗡Revelation 2:15-17 KJV🗡 [15]So hast thou also them that hold THE DOCTRINE OF THE NICOLAITANS, WHICH THING I HATE. [16]👉🏽Repent; or else👈🏿 I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth. [17]He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the called ones; TO him THAT OVERCOMETH will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it. The Trinity is a three part deception in itself. The False Father - Roman Catholic Pope. The False Son - Westernized Christianity Jesus is GOD. The False Holy Spirit/teacher/Prophet - Islam/Muhammad. Roman Catholic Church Nicaean Council exalted Christ's divinity too high, so that Islam could come and bring his divinity too low. And Westernized Christianity comes along to be in comparison to Catholicism that the devil made overwhelmingly False, so that Westernized Christianity with its bae heresy would look like the truth. Catholic = Kool-Aid Westernized Christianity = Gstorade May be less poison in it, and filled with more pure water, and eems hydrating in comparison, but it still ain't 100% pure life giving water. Its all part of the great deception.
Since d Mind, Soul and Spirit of a human being doesn't make them 1/3 of us (Human). The Mind, Soul and Spirit is 100% human. But in spiritual affairs they have different departments.... Since we're made in d image of God isn't our Mind, Soul and Spirit d best explanation for d Trinity? Or aren't we evidence of it? Mind(which is a part of d body, in hierarchy it holds d other two and "scientifically, it is true we operate and move according to d brain ") = The Father Soul = The Son (who is d soul saver, the savior of our souls) Spirit = The Holy Spirit (The one who connects us to d Transcendent and helps us communicate with d other two) That's why if we have all 3, d bible says we'll be made whole. Right?
He completely ignored 1 John 5:7. “For there are three that bear record in heaven the father, the word (Jesus), and the holy spirit; and these three are ONE.”
Actually, I am working on a video to address why that verse is not authentic and the first Greek text that included it did not exist until the 16th century. Even the New King James Version notes that it does not exist in any early Greek manuscripts. Even Martin Luther did not include it in his German translation of the Bible. You should also research the history behind 1 John 5:7. It is interesting. Here is the link. Let me know your comments. 1 John 5:7 NET notes by Trinitarians explain. www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+john+5&version=NET#fen-NET-30616t *Scroll* down to this part of the article. This reading, the infamous Comma Johanneum, has been known in the English-speaking world through the King James translation.
Thanks for posting. Would you watch this video and let me know your responses in the comments? Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.html This video provides a solid Biblical disproof of the Trinity.
Have you ever heard a challenge to that assumption: The angel of the Lord is the Lord Jesus in the Old Testament? Common assumptions often result in common mistakes. For example, if Jesus is the angel of the Lord then who was the angel of the Lord in Matthew 1:20? Second, what would be your answer to both of the questions rhetorically asked by the writer of Hebrews: "For to which of the angels did God ever say, "You are my Son, today I have begotten you” (Hebrews 1:5). And, "... And to which of the angels has he ever said, “Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet” (Hebrews 1:13)? What would you respond? There are several more. I personally believe Michael, the Archangel, is most likely the angel of the Lord. His name means Who is like God and he is called Israel's prince. However, Jesus was never an angel of the Lord, but he has always been the image of the Lord, bearing His Fathers name and sharing His glory. Let me know your thoughts and comments. Stay blessed.
Thanks for posting. Would you watch this video and let me know your responses in the comments. Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.html
God’s ways are often beyond human understanding: Many people believe that God’s ways are often beyond human understanding, and that His methods may seem illogical or mysterious to us. This is reflected in the phrase “God works in mysterious ways,” which is often used to describe situations where God’s actions seem inexplicable or unpredictable
So many contradictions There is no way the bible remained untouched for centuries yet still contain these massive contradictive phrases. That's what the Quran says, and it's actually true if you leave bias and start thinking logically.
@TYM Zay Actually, Binitarians would agree. But we also believe that Jesus is the Supreme Agent of God. He can be sent by God in the likeness of man. God can do all things and giving His Son was His greatest gift. This reminds us of Abraham offering his son. But God did not spare His Son. He died for the complete forgiveness of the sins of those who need to be rescued. What about you, would you want total forgiveness?
@@BiblicalBinitarian You know we don't follow the name JE'ZEUS referring to ZEUS the trinity.. Yeshua Eesa the son of Mary may peace be upon them. The Returning Messiah of Allah! Learn Arama-ic God preserved this language in the modern day wich is Arab-ic = Semit-ic. Yeshua said: Elah elah is the same as "LA Illaha Ill'Allah"
@@shtman504 🥲 I will entertain your lack of a father figure by responding to your comment to give you much needed attention 😃, Ps you just posted your comment and it has a like I’m pretty sure we all know who liked it *you*
You get points for originality. But the only paper-proof that I am looking for is from the 66 books. Please take a look at these and let me know your comments. What's Missing in the Trinity Triangle? ruclips.net/user/shortsxOx9BhwthCA?feature=shared Please kindly attempt to **respond** to at least **one** of the specific challenges. I will read your points: Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.htmlfeature=shared May the Lord Jesus bless you.
Here is my Binitarian chart (same verses): Deut 6:04 God is One 1 Mat 3:16 Father Anoints the Son 1 Mat 28:19 Father Parallels Holy Spirit 1/2 Mat 11:27 Father Alone Knows the Son 1 Mat 11:27 Son Alone Knows the Father 1 John 14:15 - 17 Father is Giver & Gift 1/2 John 16:07 -15 Father is the Helper 1/2 Acts 5:01 - 05 The God is the Holy Spirit 1 1 Co 8:5-6 One God and One Lord 1 2 Co 13:11 - 14 Fellowship of the Spirit 1 2 Co 3:14 - 18 The Lord is the Spirit 1 1 Jo 4:13 - 14 Father Gives His Spirit 1 ================================== Total Score: +10.5 out of 12 ==================================
@Anonymous Truth Hey. I used to teach and defend it. You may be amazed to know that a few of the most well known, believing theologians on the Trinity for decades have acknowledged in their books that the New Testament is "explicitly Binitarian" and "implicitly Trinitarian." If you are interested, I can provide references. They acknowledge biblical patterns of Binitarianism. For example, human or angelic worship of three persons is never shown in the Bible (think of a verse). Here is an example of a verse negating that there is a third knower who is immediately known by the Father and the Son: ruclips.net/video/ABKSoen1YyQ/видео.html
@@BiblicalBinitarian John 1 disproves the idea that the trinity is non-biblical. The Holy Spirit, Christ, and the Father, are all one being, God, but three persons. This is evident throughout scripture, and is all there in John 1
@Christopher J You should research the history behind 1 John 5:7. It is interesting. Here is the link. 1 John 5:7 NET notes by Trinitarians explain. www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+john+5&version=NET#fen-NET-30616t *Scroll* down to this part of the article. This reading, the infamous Comma Johanneum, has been known in the English-speaking world through the King James translation.
Hello. Thanks for posting. It seems you may not be familiar with what we believe as Biblical Binitarians. We believe that both the Father and the Son have always been and will always be fully divine. They are two fully divine, royal family heads, united as one fully divine spirit. The Son came in the name of His Father (YHWH, Yahweh). Many Old Testament Yahweh passages are applied to the Son. Like the Father, Jesus is the I AM. Here is some content that explains more of what we believe. Let us know your particular objections or agreements. Why We Do Not Believe in Two Gods ruclips.net/video/LBiuDxTIHkg/видео.htmlfeature=shared 7 Reasons Why Paul Was Binitarian ruclips.net/video/iLuAq0XCa5E/видео.htmlfeature=shared Why the Trinity Triangle is Wrong ruclips.net/user/shortsxOx9BhwthCA?feature=shared Is Another Helper Another Person? ruclips.net/video/d48WAWE_pvk/видео.htmlfeature=shared 22 Affirmations and Denials drive.google.com/file/d/1e9WiUpstTF_ocMjomUmn8ggyrZ_sctrn/ Playlist ruclips.net/p/PLYGQCKKPeelpSdUBrTYQ1OVfiDxFEr3mq Why I Became a Biblical Binitarian: Mario Shepard a.co/d/bM0H9FT May God bless you.
How about this : Just obey what Jesus said to do. 1. Jesus stated that he did not accept the praise ( glory) from men. So praising Jesus ( although warranted) is of no value . 2. Jesus gave us the Model prayer for a reason. He directs us to do what he himself did : pray to Our Father . God “ The Father “ of whom Jesus stated that He was “ My Father and Your Father , My God and your God” Is called “ The Hearer of Prayer”. So , even if you really believe that Jesus IS God , you should still only give praise and prayer to that form of God that Jesus told you to give praise and prayer too. The very God that Jesus praised and directed his prayers too.
Please watch a few of the videos in this series and let me know your responses to the specific challenges. Did Jesus Exist Before His Birth ruclips.net/p/PLYGQCKKPeelqYi86gxO6TOwPhkvX4IsNY&feature=shared May God bless you with more knowledge of the truth (1 Corinthians 8 :4-7a).
Amen. We can make a long list of -1's for the Trinity. As a Binitarian we believe in Father-Focused Monotheism. So +1 for Binitarian chart. ruclips.net/video/2YU116p_tGI/видео.html
There are roughly 60 examples of the trinity described in the NT alone. There are many other descriptions of the appearance of Jesus in the OT, beginning with Genesis. This comment section is way too small for a semi novel sized answer on this. And before y’all come at me in response I have an associates degree in Theology and go to seminary school. The Trinity is a major part of my studies.
1 Timothy 3 16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Hello. Thanks for posting. I assume that you are Oneness in your beliefs? I am a Biblical Binitarian, but I have respect for my Oneness brothers and sisters in Christ. One of the passages that I examine is 1 Timothy 3:16. You probably are aware that the oldest manuscripts have who (Greek hos) for this verse. But more importantly, the verb for manifested is specifically a passive verb - was made to be manifested. This is how it is commonly applied to Jesus throughout the New Testament. He did not manifest Himself in the flesh, but He was made manifest by God. Check out these videos and let me know your comments. Did Jesus Exist Before His Birth? ruclips.net/p/PLYGQCKKPeelqYi86gxO6TOwPhkvX4IsNY
@@BiblicalBinitarian You are not correct all through out the bible Jesus is God in his revelation. Revelation 1 King James Version 1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: 2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. 3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand. 4 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne; 5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, 6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen. 7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. 8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. 9 I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. 10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, 11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea. 12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; 13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. 14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; 15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. 16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength. 17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: 18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. 19 Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter; 20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches. He is clearly God. When he talks to the jews he always makes hints and refrences to that and they try to stone him. 1 Corinthians 15 King James Version 15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: Romans 3 King James Version 24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: 25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; 26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. 27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. 28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. I hope and Pray that you are Saved and that you preach the right Gospel God bless you Amen
The Greek language here indicates two things for this verse: The Greek does not have an indefinite article to directly translate. However, for proper translation into English the indefinite article must be included. A god is a quality. That is why some bibles say: 1808: “and the word was a god.” The New Testament in an Improved Version, Upon the Basis of Archbishop Newcome’s New Translation: With a Corrected Text. 1864: “and a god was the word.” The Emphatic Diaglott, interlinear reading, by Benjamin Wilson. 1928: “and the Word was a divine being.” La Bible du Centenaire, L’Evangile selon Jean, by Maurice Goguel. 1935: “and the Word was divine.” The Bible-An American Translation, by J. M. P. Smith and E. J. Goodspeed. 1946: “and of a divine kind was the Word.” Das Neue Testament, by Ludwig Thimme. 1950: “and the Word was a god.” New World Translation of the Christian Greek Scriptures. 1958: “and the Word was a God.” The New Testament, by James L. Tomanek. 1975: “and a god (or, of a divine kind) was the Word.” Das Evangelium nach Johannes, by Siegfried Schulz. 1978: “and godlike kind was the Logos.” Das Evangelium nach Johannes, by Johannes Schneider.The Greek language here indicates two things for this verse: The Greek does not have an indefinite article to directly translate. However, for proper translation into English the indefinite article must be included. A god is a quality. That is why some bibles say: 1808: “and the word was a god.” The New Testament in an Improved Version, Upon the Basis of Archbishop Newcome’s New Translation: With a Corrected Text. 1864: “and a god was the word.” The Emphatic Diaglott, interlinear reading, by Benjamin Wilson. 1928: “and the Word was a divine being.” La Bible du Centenaire, L’Evangile selon Jean, by Maurice Goguel. 1935: “and the Word was divine.” The Bible-An American Translation, by J. M. P. Smith and E. J. Goodspeed. 1946: “and of a divine kind was the Word.” Das Neue Testament, by Ludwig Thimme. 1950: “and the Word was a god.” New World Translation of the Christian Greek Scriptures. 1958: “and the Word was a God.” The New Testament, by James L. Tomanek. 1975: “and a god (or, of a divine kind) was the Word.” Das Evangelium nach Johannes, by Siegfried Schulz. 1978: “and godlike kind was the Logos.” Das Evangelium nach Johannes, by Johannes Schneider.
Thanks. I respect your attempt to defend the Trinity. I used to teach, preach, and believe similarly. I have invested time and thought in reading the early church writings. I would argue that the earliest writers were not Trinitarian (e.g. Clement of Rome, Ignatius of Antioch). I believe the Trinity was not made official until 381 AD at the council of Constantinople. Would you consider giving me a fair hearing from the Scriptures? Let me know specifically if the Bible explicitly teaches threefold love of the Father for the Spirit and the Son. We believe that the Son is fully divine and has always been the Father's beloved Son. But what verse teaches directly that there is threefold love between three divine persons? What's Missing in the Trinity Triangle? ruclips.net/user/shortsxOx9BhwthCA?feature=shared Please kindly attempt to **respond** to at least **one** of the specific challenges. I will read your points: Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.htmlfeature=shared May the Lord Jesus bless you.
If you believe in a trinity, you dont believe in a monotheistic religion. You are no different than the pagans who believe in multiple gods. Simple as that.
Thanks for the challenge. The real question is, are we to fully trust that the original words of God are not wrong (Romans 3:4). We must always pursue the original beliefs of the Word. We take a similar approach on the manuscripts of the New Testament - the earliest copies contain less of the traditional additions that have accumulated by Christians over the centuries. We can show that over time, traditions cause people to add to the Word what they can not find in the Word. Each of us will have to individually give an account of himself to Christ. I will not be able to point to a church council in place of God's own Word. Let me know if you first agree on this point of human history. Please also take a look at what Biblical Binitarians believe and let me know what specifically we are claiming that is not confessed explicitly in the Bible. What's Missing in the Trinity Triangle? ruclips.net/user/shortsxOx9BhwthCA?feature=shared Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.htmlfeature=shared May the Lord Jesus bless you.
- Titus 2:13-14 13 while we wait for the blessed hope-the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, 14 who gave himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify for himself a people that are his very own, eager to do what is good. - Both the father and Jesus claim to be I AM: Exodus 3:14 God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'I AM has sent me to you John 8:58 Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am -Both the father and the Son claim to be ALPHA & OMEGA, FIRST AND LAST YET ONE GOD FATHER: Isiah 44:6: “Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts: ‘I am the first and I am the last, And there is no God besides Me. Isiah 48:12: “Listen to Me, O Jacob, even Israel whom I called; I am He, I am the first, I am also the last. Revelations 1:8: “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” SON: Revelations 22 from verse 6: 6 The angel said to me (Angel which is lamb of God/ Jesus Christ) , “These words are trustworthy and true. The Lord, the God who inspires the prophets, sent his angel to show his servants the things that must soon take place.” 7 “Look, I am coming soon! Blessed is the one who keeps the words of the prophecy written in this scroll.” 8 I, John, am the one who heard and saw these things. And when I had heard and seen them, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who had been showing them to me. 9 But he said to me, “Don’t do that! I am a fellow servant with you and with your fellow prophets and with all who keep the words of this scroll. Worship God!” 10 Then he told me, “Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this scroll, because the time is near. 11 Let the one who does wrong continue to do wrong; let the vile person continue to be vile; let the one who does right continue to do right; and let the holy person continue to be holy.” Epilogue: Invitation and Warning 12 “Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. FATHER-SON RELATIONSHIP: John 1:1-3 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made ABOUT THE SPIRIT: John 15:26 26 “But when the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, the will bear witness about me. John 14:16-17 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, to be with you forever, even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you. John 14:26 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you. Matthew 12:31-32: 31:And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32:Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come. (THE SPIRIT IS OF THE SAME NATURE OF GOD THE FATHER AND THE LORD JESUS CHRIST BECAUSE SIN AND BLASPHEM CAN BE COMMITTED AGAINST THEM) Bro, don't try to reinvent the wheel about something that the fathers have solved 1700+ years ago.
@BiblicalBinitarian I watched your whole video and can possibly understand why you’re binitarian in the first place. So the reason that Jesus talks more about the Father than the Holy Spirit is simply because of his dependence to the Father. Also I’d like to make a point that the Holy Spirit is also dependent to the Father. Another thing, some of the verses you listed didn’t really disprove the Trinity and some of them actually proved the Trinity because of Jesus talking about 3 things. Some verses in the Bible prove the Trinity too like Matthew 12:31-32 “Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. 32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.” One question for you is that why would the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit be unforgivable? No other sin is like this, but this one. Also why would the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit be unforgivable while blasphemy against the Son is not. This would mean that the Holy Spirit is divine and is God because why would the blasphemy against Him include a great punishment? There is also Acts 5:3-4 that has Peter talking to Ananias saying he lied to the Holy Spirit and then saying he lied to God. If you say that he lied to both of them at the same time that would basically imply the Trinity. I pray for you to believe in the Holy Spirit because binitarianism is a dangerous heresy. 🙏✝️
the ancient heretics are back
Thanks for posting. I have asked many others who do not respond, but would you watch this video and let me know your responses in the comments?
Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments
ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.html
I look forward to hearing from you.
Nope, the ancient truth is rising again. Truth crushed to the earth will rise again. Ye shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free.
The heretics were the ones who made the trinity, deceiving billions
Hey! Since you are teaching, I believe it is only correct to direct you #SHAMOUNIAN , he debates often so please take this offer.@@BiblicalBinitarian
@@tanyabrown791really 😂
Can’t disprove the trinity without misrepresenting the trinity
Thanks for posting. I am hearing that challenge more often. I accept the challenge.
I have asked many others who do not respond, but would you watch this video and let me know your responses in the comments? Let me know if I have correctly represented the Trinity in this video. I believe I have.
Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments
ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.html
@@BiblicalBinitarianListen brother I appreciate your dedication to finding the truth but the Godhead isn’t 2 persons. The Holy Spirit is clearly God.
“But when the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, he will bear witness about me.”
John 15:26
So Jesus addressed the Spirit as he, giving the Holy Spirit its own identity but yet it proceeds from the Father. Thus it is God. Not convinced? I’ll bring you to the Book of Job
“The Spirit of God has made me, and the breath of the Almighty gives me life.”
Job 33:4
So we clearly see that the Holy Spirit played a part in creation - he made humans just as The Almighty and The Christ did.
Further proof of the trinity:
Now since you only believe in two persons in the God head you must know that the figure in the old testament “the Angel of The Lord” that is clearly pre-incarnate Jesus is God.
Now look at this:
“For he said, “Surely they are my people, children who will not deal falsely.” And he became their Savior (Father). In all their affliction he was afflicted, and the angel of his presence saved them (Son); in his love and in his pity he redeemed them; he lifted them up and carried them all the days of old. But they rebelled and grieved his Holy Spirit (3rd Person of the trinity); therefore he turned to be their enemy, and himself fought against them.”
Isaiah 63:8-10
Need I say more?
Debate D wood, sam shamoun. They'll learn you good. I was thick headed just like you
Can't prove the trinity without blatantly ignoring 99% of the bible or by taking countless verses out of context and mashing them together to form a collage of false doctrine.
@@galenmears6378 so what do you believe?
Ah yes, a Heresy the church already settled over 1700 years.
Thanks. I respect the case you are making for the Trinity from the Bible. I used to teach, preach, and believe similarly.
Would you consider giving me a fair hearing from the Scriptures?
Let me know if the Bible explicitly teaches threefold love of the Father for the Spirit and the Son. We believe that the Son is fully divine and has always been the Father's beloved Son. But what verse teaches directly that there is threefold love between three divine persons?
What's Missing in the Trinity Triangle?
ruclips.net/user/shortsxOx9BhwthCA?feature=shared
Please kindly attempt to **respond** to at least **one** of the specific challenges. I will read your points:
Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments
ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.htmlfeature=shared
May the Lord Jesus bless you.
Thankfully, binartarism is not a popular view among people today. It grieves my spirit that one would think the Holy Spirit is just another name of Jesus. The claim is based on the misreading of a passage in the non-canonical “The Shepherd of Hermas”
A better way to understand Romans 8:9 is that the Holy Spirit is called the “Spirit of Christ” because He is sent by Christ (John 15:26), He testifies of Christ (John 15:26), He comes in the name of Christ (John 14:26), and He seals believers in Christ (Ephesians 1:13). The fact that the Son sends the Spirit from the Father shows that all three Persons of the Trinity are distinct.
@@BiblicalBinitarian Genesis Isaiah all speak of the Angel of the LORD and calls him the Maker...I know you don't have the balls to challenge this dude...ruclips.net/video/-Y94Wpj3ET4/видео.html
@@MexicanApachemiwok777but that’s your interpretation on it the quotes are not directly addressing the trinity but I don’t mean to say your wrong jus simply wanna know more so my question is where in the bible does it clearly state and prove the trinity is real ?
It's actually Egyptian doctrine.
Father
Son
Mother
Is the Trinity of life .
Greeks couldn't have a female, so pulled her out and made it holy ghost?
New testament, new rules? =New religion.
Deuteronomy 6, 4 refers to the hebrew word "echad". "Echad" can mean "one". But it can also mean "unity".
Hello. Thanks for posting your comment.
You may not be aware, but I spent many years assuming this about the word one in Deuteronomy 6:4.
Others have attempted to argue that since there are a few instances where the Hebrew word **echad** can refer to a compound unity (see Genesis 2:4), this is what it **must** mean in Deut. 6:4. Aside from being not a solid argument, what most of them miss is that all of the few places where echad **must** mean compound unity actually explicitly state what is being united (e.g., the two shall become one).
Deuteronomy does not include language like that. Amazingly, none of the verses of God's Word (Hebrew or Greek) contains a statement like "the three are one" applying to the Father, the Son, and the Spirit. Ironically, we have a few that say that the Father and Son are united as one (John 10:30, John 17:11, 17:21 17:22-23). This is one of several well-known differences. This is an example of how to rightly handle the Word of truth.
The Trinity requires more proof. I would be interested in your comments on the following video. It is challenging. I look forward to hearing from you.
Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments
ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.html
@@BiblicalBinitarian How does Deuteronomy 6:4 effect the trinity at all? The trinity certainly doesn't teach that there is more than 1 God. So essentially this is a straw man argument anyways. Who teaches there is more than 1 God?
@@BiblicalBinitarian be silent. ignoramus.
it can be interpreted as unity, yet the translators were not inspired to do such
Yes and in Genesis 2:24 it used thr same when talking about marriage!!
asking trinity to 10 christians, you'll get 11 different answers
Exactly. In most cases, you may not even get an answer.
Check out these two shorts.
ruclips.net/user/shorts08XSBblwqGo?feature=share
ruclips.net/user/shortsWtQl8pPJXbk?feature=share
Hello, This would explain why that God is All 3(Godhead) Jesus Is God!!
People assume its a Catholic doctrine that perceive us Christians follow but totally do not. Catholics are false religion with their work base salvation, idol worshiping, and Jesus dead on the cross in their churches and so much more. Jehovah witness also believes that Jesus is not God, Jews to denied Jesus Christ was their Messiah, and Islam their false God saying Jesus was just a prophet and etc.
I am a born again Christian who reads KJV scriptures that tells us God is one God with 3 persons in
1John5:7-8
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.
(Vs 7 is the witness of God in Heaven =Father, Word,& Spirit are One)
(Vs 8 is the witness of Man on Earth=Spirit,Water&Blood are ONE)
(Vs 9John is talking about the 2 witness )
The cult modern bibles today take the Verse 7 out of their bibles for it not to make sense and to call the trinity believers theorists.
Its like saying Rapture is not in the bible where we know there is a (Greek translation harpazo a snatching away)
Or the commandment of God A sin not forgivable..Blaspheming the Holy Ghost(God/Jesus)
More proof God is 3 person(3 Parts)
Hebrews1:1-3(God The father a person)
1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
God The Father
2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
(God and son Jesus whom also He(Jesus)made the worlds)
3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:
(Jesus Christ is the expressed image of the person GOD the Father)
2 Cort2:10 (Jesus Christ is a Person)
10 To whom ye forgive any thing, I forgive also: for if I forgave any thing, to whom I forgave it, for your sakes forgave I it in the person of Christ; (God in the person of Christ)
John 14:16&26(Holy Spirit is a person"HE")
John 14:
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;(HE=GOD)
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Acts5(The Holy Ghost Is God)when Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost) Ananias lied to God
1John5:20(JESUS CHRIST IS THE TRUE GOD)
20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life. "Yeshua is the true God"
1Tim3:16(Jesus Is God)
16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
The Godhead has been one of the most complex understanding for Many (cults of modern bibles and unbelievers of Jesus The Messiah)
Many people can't figure out how God can be 3 Separate persons when he is ONE and only ONE true God.
Its impossible to Figure out how God can create nothing into something.
How God can feed a few loaves of bread to 5000.
God cannot be God if MAN can figure things out
God has the Greatest Power no one can understand....Thank Goodness for that
Pray this blesses you and to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ for Salvation as its God Will in the New Testament in
John 6:40
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day
.
YHVH Means Hand of Grace Behold, Nails of Grace Behold YHVH translates to Hallelujah
God Will in New testament
John 6:40
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
God Bless
@@Melanie_44 John 1 was written for the Heretics. On this topic this is what you should say. Anything else is not of God.
"Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God."
1 John 4:15 KJV
Everything you wrote violates this and you even accuse some people of doing what John wrote as wrong!!! This cannot be. Examine yourself and the sillyness your theologians taught you vs this verse. I say Jesus is the Son of God, the Word says God dwells in me. Your very next step is condemning those who reject trinitarians beliefs.
@@BiblicalBinitarian titus 3:9-11 repent and believe the Holy Trinity
@@ComplexedUsername I have already repented and believed in the name of the Lord Jesus. Knowing the Father and the Son is eternal life (John 17:3).
Can you check out this video and let me know your comments.
Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments
ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.html
Heresy.
Yes, ecclesiastical heresy. But Biblical Binitarian orthodoxy.
Would you watch this video and let me know your responses in the comments.
Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments
ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.html
The Trinity is man made theory,the bible . The word of God states no such teaching ,the Jews , Hebrews, Israelites never encountered such a teaching
Trinity is heresy.Let’s say Jesus was God. They have made icons and idols of him and worship them. Their idolators. Then they make crosses to represent him. Bow and worship those too. Even if trinity was true, they prove idolaters. John 1:1 and John 4:28 are both true but they say Gods word is lies and only the verses they choose are the truth.
Jesus is God tho
@@jeddy2925 Jesus is a God
He ended the short before he disproved it. Smh.
So you want a rhoroughly Biblical dispoof of the Trinity? No worries. Here's my full-length debunking video.
Would you take the challenge and watch this video and let me know your 5 responses in the comments?
Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments
ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.html
For a bonus, here is my chart from the comments if the short video.
Here is the breakdown:
Deut 6:04 God is One 1
Mat 3:16 3 Distinct Persons 1/2
Mat 28:19 One God is 3 Persons 1/2
John 14:15-17 Father is Not the Spirit 1/2
John 16:07-15 Father is Not the Spirit 1/2
Acts 5:01-05 Holy Spirit is God -1
Actually teaches "the God" is the Holy Spirit.
1 Co 8:5-6 One God is 3 Persons -1
2 Co 13:11-14 3 Distinct Persons 1/2
2 Co 3:14-18 The Lord is the Spirit -1
Mat 11:27 Spirit and Father Know Son -1
Mat 11:27 Spirit and Son Know Father -1
1 Jo 4:13-14 Father Does Not Give Out of Own His Spirit -1
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Total Score: -2.5 out of 12
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For our analysis of these Trinity proof text passages:
ruclips.net/p/PLYGQCKKPeelrXBvfSVGmdNblbf788L9ZG
@@BiblicalBinitarian I see that you included John 14:15-17 on your list, but I was surprised that John 14:23-27 was not on your list. Do you have a response to that in the other video? If not, do you mind sharing your view about that passage here? Thanks.
@@GatekeeperDatuck I think he's still searching 5 months on 😂
@BiblicalBinitarian sorry bud not giving u free views for blasphemous garbage. Pray that Christ will give you insight.
@@BiblicalBinitarianYou misinterpretated the trinity
3 persons do not mean 3 gods.
1 god does not mean 1 person
Jesus is God, but that does not mean he is the father
The Father is God, but that does not mean he is The Holy Spirit
The Holy Spirit is God, but that does not mean he is Jesus
God is not limited to our human capacities
When speaking of the trinity, you must be careful not to commit modalism, partialism, and other heresies that come with it
To understand the trinity, you should watch a videom from Redeemed Zoomer, the video is called "Explaining the trinity in 5 minutes" or smth like that.
The Trinity is hard to understand, that is why many churches make the mistake of using analogies, such as
"The trinity is like the water, it can be liquid, solid, and gas at the same time" but that is modalism
I specifically searched this to see if anyone can disprove it. Still searching.
I have asked many others who do not respond, but would you watch this video and let me know your responses in the comments?
Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments
ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.html
the burden of proof is on you
ruclips.net/video/-Y94Wpj3ET4/видео.html
See Muslims they disprove it really easy
If it’s your belief then the burden of performance is on you. No one is going to try and prove your belief
"The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost be with you all. - 2 Corinthians 13:14.
Hi. Thanks for the comment. You may want to watch this series where I provide a response to the Top 5 Trinity proof texts, including this one.
ruclips.net/p/PLYGQCKKPeelrXBvfSVGmdNblbf788L9ZG
For an even fuller case, please check out my book:
Why I Became a Biblical Binitarian: Mario Shepard a.co/d/bM0H9FT
God was in Jesus, Jesus was BEGOTTEN (which means had a beginning), the Holy Ghost is GOD himself merely manifested in men, and not a separate God. Nowhere does Jesus ever say, God is three separate Gods but in one. Nowhere in scripture does it say God is three separate Gods AT ALL! It says there is ONE GOD, flat out!
@@johnrambo9104 the trinity doesn't teach that God is 3 separate gods, so what are you even talking about?
The trinity teaches that the 1 God YHWH, is the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
@@johnrambo9104 begotten doesn't always mean that.
Psalm 2:7 David was begotten as the king of Israel. David certainly was not created that day. Also David had a dad on earth named Jesse.
They can't address these verses, they will try and only end up looking foolish.
Psalm 110.1: The Lord said to my Lord: sit at my Right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet.
Amen. Who is seated next to whom in Psalm 110:1? Is there a passage like this that has three divine persons seated together?
No, but when Stephen was s being stoned he said in Acts 7 chapter 55 verse... But he , being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up steadfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, 56. And said, behold,I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.
@@BiblicalBinitarian the soul and body can be separated so maybe that is what Stephen saw
@@joemooney6536”the glory of God” in Arabic is “Bahá-ú-lláh”. Learn about this. It is a title of Mirza Hussein Ali, a -19th century figure who made some astonishing claims that need to be investigated.
@@Scott23882 what are u even tlkn about?? Maybe?? Smh didn't Daniel see the son of man standing before the ancient of days hundreds of years b4 he came to earth? Did the son of man have flesh then? No. Was he a spirit? Yes. So whoever Stephen saw was the same 2 persons Daniel saw in chapter 7 and both the son of man and the father being side by side in heaven.
Tell me you didn't disprove the trinity without telling me you didn't disprove the trinity
Good one.
Thanks for posting.
I assume that you have not heard someone make the Biblical case for Binitarianism.
Here are two brief videos that do the job. We have more. But let me know your initial thoughts.
7 Reasons Why Paul Was Binitarian
ruclips.net/video/iLuAq0XCa5E/видео.htmlfeature=shared
Why the Trinity Triangle is Wrong
ruclips.net/user/shortsxOx9BhwthCA?feature=shared
May the Lord Jesus bless you.
Your issue is because you can’t FULLY comprehend something you can’t fully believe in it & that’s ok…..i’ve been married for over 31yrs & i still don’t fully understand my Wife….
The Trinity is in the O & N T, plain n simple
LOL. That made me smile.
Would you consider giving me a fair hearing from the Scriptures?
Let me know specifically if the Bible explicitly teaches threefold love of the Father for the Spirit and the Son. We believe that the Son is fully divine and has always been the Father's beloved Son. But what verse teaches directly that there is threefold love between three divine persons?
What's Missing in the Trinity Triangle?
ruclips.net/user/shortsxOx9BhwthCA?feature=shared
Please kindly attempt to **respond** to at least **one** of the specific challenges. I will read your points:
Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments
ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.htmlfeature=shared
May the Lord Jesus bless you.
@@BiblicalBinitarian Sir, JESUS accepted worship, HE forgave sins, HE is GOD
"Let US make man in OUR image and in OUR likeness"
Thanks for posting. When God made them in His image, how many were made?
@@BiblicalBinitarian are you asking how many men God made?
Yes, in Genesis, when God declared this, how may humans were made in His image?
@@BiblicalBinitarian all of us are?
Yes, but in the text, it says, "So God created man in his own image in the image of God he created him male and female he created them" (Genesis 1:26). God began with two united as one, "So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate" (Matthew 19:6).
The Father and the Son ate two fully divine heads, and, together, they made two humans, both in their image.
Question for you:
In Corinthians 11:3, how man divine heads are over the human family?
Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments
ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.html
I like how humans try to explain what is godly in earthly terms.
Thanks for posting. Actually, we are making the case that the Trinity resulted from people attempting to explain Biblical truths in human terms instead of Biblical language and logic.
Would you watch this video and let me know your responses in the comments.
Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments
ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.html
God made religion simple and easy to understand and worship him. You people bringing changes and now its all confused. No wonder christianity is declining
😂😂😂 Exactly!!
@@Syedarshad03wdym God made faith simple? Do you claim to comprehend the entire texts? No one person can fully be capable of understanding the power of God nor what God even is
@@zacharylundfelt1847 god is complex yes. No one can fully understand. Trinity doesn’t make sense at all and Jesus (pbuh)never claimed Trinity it came into existence 200 AD. If you think without any bias against Trinity you will understand that its complete blasphemy. God will give simple understanding for humans to worship him. As jews and muslims claim god to be one. For christians god is 1+1+1=1 . Like where did holy spirit come from.
I swear i understood this whole thing better as a kid (non trinity). When i came back to Christianity and was told the Trinity idea ive been confused ever since.
Thanks for posting. Would you watch this video and let me know your responses in the comments.
Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments
ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.html
God is not a God of confusion. God is a singular Spirit (John 4:24).
God promised to save us Isaiah 43:10-11.
The way he did this was to take on a human form Isaiah 9:6 & Matthew 1:23.
Believing that there are three beings in the Godhead is evidence of being deceived by satan Colossians 2:8-9.
Try read quran, maybe you will find the truth there😊
@luqmanhakim867 Thanks for posting. Actually, I have read and reread the Quran (an English interpretation).
I have a question for you.
Is there a Surah in the Quran that refers to any other prophet as a Messiah (anointed one)? For example, in the Bible, kings and priests were anointed with oil. Who anointed Muhammad or the other prophets in the Quran with oil?
There are hundreds of prophecies about the Messiah (the Anointed) King in the Jewish writings preserved for centuries before Jesus was born. I assume you have heard about the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls, over 600 scrolls, and fragments dated from 200 B.C. to 100 A.D. Many are not aware of the historical confidence we have about what was written before Jesus was even born.
An example of an amazing prophecy that predates Christ by 500 years, preserved and verified, is Daniel 9. It included the expected time frame when the Anointed One will come and explicitly states that He will be put to death (Daniel 9:26). That's an example of an amazingly supernatural prophecy before Christ.
NIV
9:24 “Seventy ‘sevens’ are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the Most Holy Place.
25 “Know and understand this: From the time the word goes out to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One, the ruler, comes, there will be seven ‘sevens,’ and sixty-two ‘sevens.’ It will be rebuilt with streets and a trench, but in times of trouble. 26 After the sixty-two ‘sevens,’ the Anointed One will be put to death and will have nothing. The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed. 27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him."
@@luqmanhakim867 Nah. False prophets aren't my thing
@InspiringPhilosophy has a great set of videos on the Trinity.
I think it’s better to take a wholistic approach to the Trinity. Most “charts” I’m seeing here either do not encompass the full scope (I.e. all scripture covering this topic), or include inaccurate aspects of what is being discussed (I.e. including the Holy Spirit in a passage when He is not being discussed). Note: the New Testament is mostly concerned with establishing Jesus as the divine messiah, as it was understood that God is the Holy Spirit also.
Since it seems as though Jesus’ divinity isn’t in question, the following passages help to support the Holy Spirit as God:
First, establishing the Holy Spirit - Genesis 1: 2, 1 Samuel 10:10, Acts 2:4-18, Exodus 31:3, Numbers 24:2, Judges 3:10, 1 Samuel 19:20, Romans 8:9.
Second, establishing the Holy Spirit is sent and distinct from God the Father - Isaiah 63:11-12, Ezekiel 11:5, Psalm 104:30.
Thirdly, the Holy Spirit is God - 2 Samuel 23:2-3 (not that the Holy Spirit is speaking from God, but that God is speaking), Job 33:4, Isaiah 48:16 (“…From the time it took place, I was there. And now the Lord God has sent me, and His Spirit.”)
This is only the tip of the iceberg of evidence, and if you want to directly object to the Trinity - you need to make a cumulative case using all scripture. Not to mention, the Historical Jewish / Rabbinical understanding, and modern scholarly support to back up the Trinity as being understood over the centuries.
Thanks for the engagement. RUclips has its limits. I would highly recommend that you read my book.
Why I Became a Biblical Binitarian: Mario Shepard a.co/d/bM0H9FT
I provide a comprehensive positive case for Binitarism and chapters respectfully responding to the central claims of Trinitarianism.
Also, I am not sure if you have fully understood my position regarding the divine spirit. Matthew 11:25-27 and 2 Corinthians 3:14-18 are negations (actually double negations) of critical Trinitarian claims. You will be surprised to learn that throughout history, Trinitarians have not been able to provide text-based explanations of these texts.
Here is an example:
Matthew 11:25-27
ruclips.net/video/ABKSoen1YyQ/видео.html
There are also other major deficiencies for Trinitarianism, which must be addressed.
Hope this helps.
@@BiblicalBinitarian I guess I’ll simply have to read your book to understand your position.
One quick question: What is the Holy Spirit, in your view?
@Red Rebel Leader-7 I have a Father-focused view of the divine spirit.
Here is a video (5 Hard Facts about the Holy Spirit).
ruclips.net/video/aO8lHZ7FUD8/видео.html
I also have a series where I discuss spirit in the Old Testament.
What Does the OT Teach us About the Spirit of God 4 part Series: ruclips.net/p/PLYGQCKKPeelqYlW-a43wyLJN3hMUBsxw3
Let me know if this clarifies.
Read Revelation 3:12 to see what Jesus says. Just a heads up thought...he who is God almighty ...can not have a God. Like I said...read the scripture...Plenty more like it throughout the bible. It will make you think.
Since d Mind, Soul and Spirit of a human being doesn't make them 1/3 of us (Human).
The Mind, Soul and Spirit is 100% human. But in spiritual affairs they have different departments....
Since we're made in d image of God isn't our Mind, Soul and Spirit d best explanation for d Trinity? Or aren't we evidence of it?
Mind(which is a part of d body, in hierarchy it holds d other two and "scientifically, it is true we operate and move according to d brain ") = The Father
Soul = The Son (who is d soul saver, the savior of our souls)
Spirit = The Holy Spirit (The one who connects us to d Transcendent and helps us communicate with d other two)
That's why if we have all 3, d bible says we'll be made whole. Right?
God's oneness doesn't negate that he is three persons. Three persons, one being.
Have you ever considered why God speaks clearly and explicitly about His oneness, but Trinitarians must infer His threeness?
I would be interested in hearing your thoughts after watching this video. It is a compelling case, with a more Biblical replacement. Enjoy and stay engaged.
Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments
ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.html
He is One person and One Being, my friend. The Bible doesn’t speak of a trinity or a binity just One God. ruclips.net/user/shortsRcRhlMlkeNM?feature=share
@@shalombereshiyth Hello. I would like ro have you review one of these three videos and let me know your comments. Thanks.
Philippians 2
ruclips.net/video/o3i_njwORsc/видео.html
John
ruclips.net/video/se-9kDnChuU/видео.html
John 1:1
ruclips.net/video/c7KzyabuV8M/видео.html
@@BiblicalBinitarian okay, I’ll do that ☺️
@@BiblicalBinitarian Hi, I agree that Yehoshua (Jesus) existed prior to His revelation on earth. He is called the Eternal Father and Mighty God in Isaiah 9:6. Also, John 1:1 is clear that the Word was made flesh. Also, “Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.”
John 8:58
The timelessness of the phrase indicates the Hebrew term Yahweh (was, is, will be) Yehoshua is simply Yahweh Saves. So, He has always existed
Seeing someone try to disprove the trinity is like seeing someone try to stop a storm using an empty cup and a fan.
LOL. Good one.
It seems you may not be familiar with what we believe as Biblical Binitarians.
We believe that both the Father and the Son have always been and will always be fully divine. They are two fully divine, royal family heads, united as one fully divine spirit.
Here is some content that explains more of what we believe. Let us know your particular objections or agreements.
Why We Do Not Believe in Two Gods
ruclips.net/video/LBiuDxTIHkg/видео.htmlfeature=shared
7 Reasons Why Paul Was Binitarian
ruclips.net/video/iLuAq0XCa5E/видео.htmlfeature=shared
Why the Trinity Triangle is Wrong
ruclips.net/user/shortsxOx9BhwthCA?feature=shared
Why I Became a Biblical Binitarian: Mario Shepard a.co/d/bM0H9FT
May God bless you.
The trinity never exist during the time of Jesus and no church father 100 or 300 yrs after Jesus spoke about it. It was introduced by Greek mythology. Do deep research and you will understand how fake christainty was .
No it's like someone stopping a dust with a planet overkill it's easy to disprove it. Clearly you are deluded
God is one and i believe that Jesus Alaihisalam was not a God but a Prophet of God
@@GuardianKnight07 You're deluded with your illiterate false prophet who married a 9-year-old playing with dolls. Christ had already heard us call him God.
Thomas answered and said to him: My Lord and my God. Jesus saith to him: Because thou hast seen me, Thomas, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen and have believed.
The Gospel of St. John 20:28-29
@@GuardianKnight07no the deity of Christ is very clear he he said I was the first and the last alpha and omega it’s pretty clear that he is god and he is 1 person not some trinity
The Jews asked Jesus, " Who can forgive sins but God?" After Jesus had told a man his sins were now forgiven. Then to make absolutely sure what was meant they said. Because you make yourself equal to God. NO room for confusion what Jesus was claiming!!
Hello. Thanks for posting.
It seems you may not be familiar with what we believe as Biblical Binitarians.
We believe that both the Father and the Son have always been and will always be fully divine. They are two fully divine, royal family heads, united as one fully divine spirit.
Here is some content that explains more of what we believe. Let us know your particular objections or agreements.
Why We Do Not Believe in Two Gods
ruclips.net/video/LBiuDxTIHkg/видео.htmlfeature=shared
7 Reasons Why Paul Was Binitarian
ruclips.net/video/iLuAq0XCa5E/видео.htmlfeature=shared
Why the Trinity Triangle is Wrong
ruclips.net/user/shortsxOx9BhwthCA?feature=shared
Why I Became a Biblical Binitarian: Mario Shepard a.co/d/bM0H9FT
May God bless you.
If you are a muslim and ur sure that jesus isn't God read this he said Right there he is God Idk why people don't mention this verse
Luke 4:6-12
[6]“I will give you the glory of these kingdoms and authority over them,” the devil said, “because they are mine to give to anyone I please.
[7]I will give it all to you if you will worship me.”
[8]Jesus replied, “The Scriptures say,
‘You must worship the lord your God
and serve only him.’”
[9]Then the devil took him to Jerusalem, to the highest point of the Temple, and said, “If you are the Son of God, jump off!
[10]For the Scriptures say,
‘He will order his angels to protect and guard you.
[11]And they will hold you up with their hands
so you won’t even hurt your foot on a stone.’”
[12]Jesus responded, “The Scriptures also say, ‘You must not test the lord your God.’”
He told him you must not test the lord your god and the devil was testing him!! And he said right there that he was God because the devil was testing Jesus and Jesus said that you shall not test the lord your god
This is incorrect.
Jesus is quoting from Deuteronomy while being tested to show that He only worships God, His Father.
The proof is that in all of the Satan's temptations he was attempt to undermine Jesus' trust in His Father, who had just spoken from heaven, "This is my Beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased" (Luke 3:22 ).
Notice, Satan did not say, "If you are God turn theses stones into bread," but, "If you are the Son of God, command this stone to become bread" (Luke 4:3). So on with the other temptations.
Unfortunately, you are jumping to a conclusion without justifying it from the text.
Jesus is fully divine and has always existed in the form of God, always being with God, His Father. But He is distinguished from the invisible God, the Most High God, whom no one has ever seen.
Check out this video and let me know your thoughts.
Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments
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Why is it so hard to believe God went into a human body in order to save humanity from sin...I mean who loves us more?
Hello. I am a Biblical Binitarian. I believe that Jesus has always been fully divine, like His Father. I believe all the fullness of deity was pleased to dwell in Him bodily. But I also believe that the Son has eternally depended upon the Father for life, likeness, leadership, learning, and love.
Here is a breakdown of what Binitarians believe. There is also a playlist to go with it.
What do you believe? Do you believe in the Trinity? Or do you believe in Father and the Son? I look forward to your comments.
22 Affirmations and Denials
drive.google.com/file/d/1e9WiUpstTF_ocMjomUmn8ggyrZ_sctrn/
Playlist
ruclips.net/p/PLYGQCKKPeelpSdUBrTYQ1OVfiDxFEr3mq
Why I Became a Biblical Binitarian: Mario Shepard a.co/d/bM0H9FT
Only Spiritual understand Spiritual
That Nicolatians doctrine of men.
🗡THE ADDED TRINITY HERESY OF JOHN 5
THE TRUTH IN THE ORIGINAL GREEK! ❤
1 John 5:6-8 Greek Orinlginal Version
6 This is he that came by water and blood, Jesus Christ, not by water only, but by water and blood, and the Spirit beareth witness, because the spirit is truth.
✅️7These three they are for the witnessing, 8 the spirit, the water, and the blood, and these three agree in one.✅️
🔥When he was nailed to the cross the water and the blood that leaked from his side when he was pierced by the spear was for a witness of the truth, and the Spirit of truth that came over those who saw and knew right away from His teachings of blood and water prophecy of psalms 22 is a witness in itself.🔥
John 19:34-35 KJV
34 But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water.
35 And he that saw it bare record, and his record is true: and he knoweth that he saith true, that ye might believe.
🔥Come out of Nicolatians/Nicaean Council Heresy doctrines that are the seat of Satan's foundation.
The 1st beast in Revelations 13 is The Roman Empire and Roman Catholic Church, and The Second beast that rose to power after the first beast fell out of power was America and Westernized Christianity. Pointing the world back to worshipping the first beast, Nicaean/Nicolatians doctrines 3 in 1 Trinity Heresy.🔥
🗡Revelation 2:15-17 KJV🗡
[15]So hast thou also them that hold THE DOCTRINE OF THE NICOLAITANS, WHICH THING I HATE.
[16]👉🏽Repent; or else👈🏿 I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth. [17]He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the called ones; TO him THAT OVERCOMETH will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.
The Trinity is a three part deception in itself.
The False Father - Roman Catholic Pope.
The False Son - Westernized Christianity Jesus is GOD.
The False Holy Spirit/teacher/Prophet - Islam/Muhammad.
Roman Catholic Church Nicaean Council exalted Christ's divinity too high, so that Islam could come and bring his divinity too low. And Westernized Christianity comes along to be in comparison to Catholicism that the devil made overwhelmingly False, so that Westernized Christianity with its bae heresy would look like the truth.
Catholic = Kool-Aid
Westernized Christianity = Gstorade
May be less poison in it, and filled with more pure water, and eems hydrating in comparison, but it still ain't 100% pure life giving water.
Its all part of the great deception.
Because God cannot lie God is the Father and God of Christ First chapter of Hebrew
It's not that 4 me it's ppl sating that yeshua was gods literal son
A lot of falsehood in this video, smh.
Hello. Thanks for posting.
What specifically did I mention that is directly denied by the Bible?
Take a look at what Biblical Binitarians believe and let me know what specifically we are claiming that is not confessed explicitly in the Bible.
Why We Do Not Believe in Two Gods
ruclips.net/video/LBiuDxTIHkg/видео.html
7 Reasons Why Paul Was Binitarian
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22 Affirmations and Denials
drive.google.com/file/d/1e9WiUpstTF_ocMjomUmn8ggyrZ_sctrn/
Playlist
ruclips.net/p/PLYGQCKKPeelpSdUBrTYQ1OVfiDxFEr3mq
Why I Became a Biblical Binitarian: Mario Shepard a.co/d/bM0H9FT
May God bless you with more knowledge of the truth (1 Corinthians 8:4-7a).
Problem with this approach is:
You can't read isolated verses of the Bible out of context like that. The Bible needs to be read in context to come to any rational conclusions about it.
Thanks for the post. There is a way to do this that relies on the surrounding context for each passage.
Please take a look at this deeper dive. I would appreciate your review and feedback.
Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments
ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.html
Imagine trying to disprove the supernatural by acting like it's the natural.
Thanks for posting.
Actually, we are attempting to disprove a natural, man-made construct that has been substituted for God's supernaturally revealed truth.
If you are interested in learning how, then check out this video.
Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments
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May the Lord Jesus bless you.
God is supernatural, so the trinity is supernatural. The trinity is nothing like what the natural world has seen before. There was a 200 year period where christians were really close to God. From what they experienced, all of them concluded to the trinity. If something was originally, "The father, the son, and the holy spirit are the 3 gods of Christianity," or, "The father, the son and the holy spirit are 3 forms of God," no one in the right mind would go, "Sorry. I'm confused. Do you mean, like, the father, the son, and the holy spirit are one God in three persons?" If something doesn't make sense, chances are it's the original.@@BiblicalBinitarian
Why leave it to chance?
Check out this simple video.
Does the Trinity Require Jesus to Be Wrong?
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@@BiblicalBinitarianchurch doctrine is not
Man made.
Jesus said
“He who hears YOU hears me
He who rejects YOU rejects me”
Lk 10:16
@@hweiktomeyto god should make logical sense. you should be able to understand that god is ONE using logic, otherwise why even use ur brain
I really like the part where he disproved the Trinity
Thanks for posting. Would you watch this video and let me know your responses in the comments.
Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments
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@@BiblicalBinitarianclearly you have not read the Bible yourself so you are no better than the false Christians you ask these questions too. Why ask people who are very uneducated in their own religion and why ask false prophets these question to debunk the trinity? Stop being hypocritical and get educated yourself. There are Scriptures that proves the trinity and theres also the Athanasian Creed as well.
He didnt though 😁
I really liked the part where you watched the video
@@Pretzel829 Same, I watched it about 6 times, what he teaches his watchers to do (in this video, not in his other videos) is to write down their scores for each verse which trinitarians would use to prove the trinity. In no way does this disprove the trinity because it is based purely on a biased point system. He would argue that no verses in the Bible evidence a trinity, so all verses would be rated a 0 or -1, but I would see the trinity and rate them 1. This video does not work to prove or disprove anything.
The Trinity is literally in the Bible. The thing is people is that they don't know what the trinity is. What is the Trinity? It is not 3 Gods as 1 God. It is 3 attributes of 1 entity. What is the entity? God. What are the attributes? The Father, Son and Holy Spirit. So it is simple.
Thanks for posting. Would you watch this video and let me know your responses in the comments?
Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments
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@@BiblicalBinitarian thankyou but I already started watching the video and started writing the explanations. May God bless you
Yeah, their extensions of God that Specializes in unique tasks.
Trinity is a 3rd century concept to bring order to the Christian world. Jesus came to earth and broadcasted God's words. Here is God's quote in Duetoronomy 👇
Deuteronomy 18:18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
Deuteronomy 18:19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.
Jesus then says he speaks from God's authority, not his. 👇
John 14:10-11
New International Version
10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. 11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves.
It's stated as 3 persons in the orthodox model though. Not 3 attributes. That would be modelism anyway. God in 3 modes or roles.
Ah yes anti-trinitarians that neither read the entirety of the Bible nor understood the Bible.
Thanks. You may not be familiar with my background. I used to teach, preach, and believe similarly.
Would you consider giving me a fair hearing from the Scriptures?
Let me know specifically if the Bible explicitly teaches threefold love of the Father for the Spirit and the Son. We believe that the Son is fully divine and has always been the Father's beloved Son. But what verse teaches directly that there is threefold love between three divine persons?
What's Missing in the Trinity Triangle?
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Please kindly attempt to **respond** to at least **one** of the specific challenges. I will read your points:
Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments
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May the Lord Jesus bless you.
cool heresy you got there
Thanks, but I am guessing that you have not examined what we actually believe (see below).
I was happy being a Trinitarian minister. But the Bible is what led me to become a Biblical Binitarian
I have asked many others who do not respond, but would you watch this video and let me know your responses in the comments?
Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments
ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.html
22 Affirmations and Denials
drive.google.com/file/d/1e9WiUpstTF_ocMjomUmn8ggyrZ_sctrn/
God,Jesus,and the Holy Spirit there’s no such thing as a trinity
Jesus is part of the god family and the Holy Spirit is what Christians get once they get babtised
I agree there is no such thing as the Trinity in the Bible.
Would you consider reading our
22 Affirmations and Denials
drive.google.com/file/d/1e9WiUpstTF_ocMjomUmn8ggyrZ_sctrn/view
Would you check out this video series and let me know your comments?
Playlist
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@@BiblicalBinitarian what church do you go to?
If you don’t you should check out living church of god
Man and wife are one. They are also a couple.
Oneness just means unity. It doesn’t negate or dictate the amount of people involved. 🙄
As Binitarians, we agree that two can become one. But what do you believe? Do you believe there are three divine persons who know, love, and honor each other, having always been together, even before creation?
Great, No one contests that!
The issue is: Do the Holy Scriptures teach of a Triune God or a Monoune God?
A common claim by Trinitarian Christian Missionaries is that even the Jewish Bible preaches the Trinity, even in the Shema, saying that Echad refers to a complex unity, therefore, the God of Judaism is Triune.
The problem with that is, just because the word "One" can mean either [One set of Things] or [One Individual Thing] that doesn't mean that the Echad is refering to a complex Unity of Persons.
All over the texts there is condemnation of the Idea that God can be made of parts. Therefore that interetation of "Echad" is invalid.
Ergo, the Trinity is Invalid.
Spot on.
What difference does it make. Jesus is the way the Truth and the Life. Not your articulation of the trinity or theology. Theology can not save us. But knowing him will.
Truth be told we don’t actually have the kind to conceive him in logical terms. It’s above our pay grace.
I agree. Knowing Jesus is the central matter. God bless you.
@charleshanna2089
It's easy to crush the trinity teaching.
Hebrews chapter ONE
is all about Christ Jesus being an angel in heaven and Jehovah exalting him to a higher position than all the other angels.
AFTER reading it, ..
Can you explain verse by verse the relationship between Jehovah and his beloved Son, Christ Jesus ?
EXAMPLES:
** Verse 2 -
How do you become an HEIR to yourself ?
** Verse 3 -
Did Jesus sit down on his own right hand ?
(NOBODY sits next to their self)
** Verse 4 -
WHO did Jesus receive an inheritance from ?
** Verse 9 -
Regarding Jesus it says ..
" THY GOD hath ANNOINTED THEE With the oil of gladness above thy fellows "
( Who are Jesus fellows ? )- other angels .
The whole entirety of Hebrews chapter one,
is also proof that the teaching of the Trinity is a bunch of crap.
1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus,
1 Corinthians 8:6
yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.
We believe these texts fully. We are Biblical Binitarians. One God, the Father, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God.
Take a look at our 22 theses and let me know your comments.
22 Affirmations and Denials
drive.google.com/file/d/1e9WiUpstTF_ocMjomUmn8ggyrZ_sctrn/view
He actually proves the trinity at the beginning, he needed 3 items to prove his point ( paper, pen and the holy bible ) the holy bible is the father, the pen is the spirit and the paper is Jesus in the flesh! Glory be to God (YHWH) 🙏
…what kinda goofy ass argument is this?
@@tronkbonk some just won’t get it! Read Hebrews 5 if you don’t Yadha then you should pray and read more 🙏
@@icudog9442no like the logistics of this argument is stupid, having 3 items doesnt correlate with the trinity, the only connection is the number 3
Would you consider giving me a fair hearing from the Scriptures?
Let me know if the Bible explicitly teaches threefold love of the Father for the Spirit and the Son. We believe that the Son is fully divine and has always been the Father's beloved Son. But what verse teaches directly that there is threefold love between three divine persons?
What's Missing in the Trinity Triangle?
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Please kindly attempt to **respond** to at least **one** of the specific challenges. I will read your points:
Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments
ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.htmlfeature=shared
May the Lord Jesus bless you.
@@BiblicalBinitarian I can show you many places in the holy bible, but if you don’t have understanding from God (YHWH) then it would be impossible for a simple person like myself to explain it. I’m not that smart, sorry I’ll pray for you that’s about all I can do. 🙏
This is what happens when you read the Bible for your own understanding and not the historical understanding. The Bible is a Trinity book.
Thanks. I respect the case you are making for the Trinity from the Bible. I used to teach, preach, and believe similarly.
Would you consider giving me a fair hearing from the Scriptures?
Let me know specifically if the Bible explicitly teaches threefold love of the Father for the Spirit and the Son. We believe that the Son is fully divine and has always been the Father's beloved Son. But what verse teaches directly that there is threefold love between three divine persons?
What's Missing in the Trinity Triangle?
ruclips.net/user/shortsxOx9BhwthCA?feature=shared
Please kindly attempt to **respond** to at least **one** of the specific challenges. I will read your points:
Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments
ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.htmlfeature=shared
May the Lord Jesus bless you.
The trinity is hinted at in the bible multiple times, if you look at Genesis it says we made man in our image, my understanding is that There is 1 god and 3 persons, also how would someone even be able to come up with the trinity if it was a false religion, would they not attempt to make it as easy as possible to get more followers.
Genesis 1:26-28
Beloved, it is also written in the Bible that after Adam sinned, he became like one of us. After that sin, whom did he become like? Was like Jesus like the Father or like the Holy Spirit? Genesis 3:22
[22]And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.”
Trinity is not the base of bible
@@worshiperevangelistshanyaq325, yep.
Certainly disbelieved those who say, "Indeed Allah (is the) third (of) three." And (there is) no [of] god except (the) God (the) One. And if not they desist from what they are saying surely will afflict those who disbelieved among them, a punishment painful. Quran 5:73
Yes. We Do believe this.
I have read and reread the Quran. There is more amazing truth about Jesus in the Gospels. You should read the Gospel of Luke or the Gospel of Mark and see for yourself.
Quran: Chapter 19 name: Maryam (Mary) Verses 30 to 35:
-[Jesus] said, "Indeed, I am the servant of Allah/God . He has given me the Scripture and made me a prophet.
-And He has made me blessed wherever I am and has enjoined upon me prayer and zakah (charity) as long as I remain alive.
-And [made me] dutiful to my mother, and He has not made me a wretched tyrant.
-And peace is on me the day I was born and the day I will die and the day I am raised alive."
-That is Jesus, the son of Mary - the word of truth about which they are in dispute.
-It is not [befitting] for Allah to take a son; exalted is He! When He decrees an affair, He only says to it, "Be," and it is
We are a trinity ourselves
Soul,Spirit, body
We are God's image
THE FATHER IS THE SOUL
THE SON IS THE BODY
THE HOLY SPIRIT IS THE SPIRIT OF GOD
Its that easy
Thanks for posting.
As a biblically committed, Trinitarian minister, I have spent 25+ years attempting to make that analogy work.
Surprisingly, most Trinitarian scholars reject the tri-part view of humans, due to solid Biblical arguments (e.g., soul in the Old Testament refers to your entire living being, in the New Testament several passages use soul and spirit as parallel synonyms, and others clearly teach body-spirit composition). See Wayne Grudems Systematic Theology for a thorough review of all the evidence.
Most importantly, is there anyone in the New Testament who makes this comparison? No one. So, you are on your own. As with many arguments for the Trinity.
Would you watch this video and let me know your responses in the comments?
Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments
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how can humans be god's image
if we are trinity does that mean god is human
how can god be human?
Thanks for posting. Here is a related video that reviews arguments that Trinitarians should no longer use. Sorry to say, but this one is one of them.
ruclips.net/video/gtuktZFEBTI/видео.html
Would you also watch this video and let me know your responses in the comments?
Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments
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@SANA_KHAN688 we are the fisical copy of God which means we are children of God that's the meaning of The son of God
The only difference is the first adam is adopted by the devil and the second Adam is our redemption . Jesus who is God redeems the image of The son of God which everyone that is born in sin
Then why do trinity believers say that the father and Jesus are 2 different beings? That doesn’t make sense according to your analogy.
„For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one.“
I John 5:7 NKJV
This verse wraps the debate up
Hi. Thanks for posting. Almost 30 years ago, one of the verses that convinced me of the Trinity was 1 John 5:7 (KJV).
However, I was surprised when I researched further and discovered that it is widely known that this verse is not included in John's original epistle.
Even the New King James Version notes: "Only 4 or 5 very late mss. contain these words in Greek."
Link
www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+john+5&version=NKJV#fen-NKJV-30632b
Additionally, Martin Luther did not include it in his translation from the Greek Text to German since it was not in the original editions of Erasmus' critical text.
Let me know if you are open to learning more about this topic.
May the Lord Jesus bless you.
There are numerous times throughout Jesus’ life when He clearly & unquestionably has direct dialogue with His Father in Heaven; along with there being numerous examples of Jesus directly interacting with the Holy Ghost; so how can this be if there is no Holy Trinity? Bottom line: Our Creator/God is “1 God” consisting of “3 Persons”.
Thanks for posting. By the way, thinking through these topics is what led me to become a Biblical Binitarian.
We believe in two fully divine royal family heads, the Father and the Son. The Father and the Son speak to each other throughout the Scriptures (even in the Old Testament - see Psalm 2 and Psalm 110).
However, I noticed that above you were unable to state that Jesus dialogued with the Holy Spirit (a third person). We believe in the reality of God's spirit; we believe in the divinity of God's spirit; we believe in the personality of God's spirit. However, we object to the claim that the Holy Spirit must be a third person, along with the Father and the Son. We believe that the Father and the Son are united as one divine spirit.
This Video Demonstrates a Major Challenge
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Would you watch this video and let me know your responses in the comments?
Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments
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Heavenly Father please open this man's heart to the divine knowledge that is the holy Trinity.
Who is this heavenly father?? Catholics pray to a heavenly father and a "queen of heaven" and don't even know what those words mean
@@MrMathoks when I pray to God I ask him for a favor, I adore Him, I praise Him And I do my best to glorify Him.
When I pray to Mary our blessed Mother, I ask her pray for me to Our God.
It's really just that simple. It's the same as you asking your friends or family to pray for you... Assuming you are a Christian. Apologies if I'm incorrect
@@machinesdaily247 This might be too complex for your level of knowledge but the "queen of heaven" aka Me-ri, "The Beloved One" in Medu Netjer that you pray to is not the mother of the Messiah and the so called "heavenly father" is not the Hebrew God.
Let me introduce you to the actual Queen of Heaven. Jeremiah 7:18 "The children gather wood, the fathers light the fire, and the women knead the dough and make cakes to offer to the Queen of Heaven. They pour out drink offerings to other gods to arouse my anger."
You will find more and a reference to where the Israelites got it from in chapter 44.
You have been deceived but you can keep praying to your goddess if you want
Personally, I don't ask anyone to pray for me. And Mary is dead. My God does not approve of praying to dead people
I'm a Protestant, but for your comment here, I will say AMEN
@@machinesdaily247 do you pray to your dead relatives to pray for you too?
Jump on a debate so we can see any trinitarian wipe the floor with you 😂😂
Haha. That literally made me laugh. What you may not know is that I have been reaching out to many. But they will not debate me.Since you said any Trinitarian would you be willing to debate me on 2 Corinthians 3:14-18 or Matthew 11:25-27 or even John 14:15-24? Email me and we can set it up any week. Unless you are willing to admit that you personally 0 are not able to.
trinitarians can only use philosophy pf men and mental gymnastics and read their doctrine into texts..in reality scripture wipes the floor with trinitarians
@@TimKollat I agree.
@@TimKollat Mental gymnastics?? You're a clown. It is there in the Bible.
The Trinity is a man made construct...if it were true it would be clearly taught...it is all conjecture....the Trinity doctrine is vague at best.
The guy that s simply boosting his own online interest.
Nah, I'm actually pretty new to this YT channel thing. This was one of my first short videos. I genuinely love the Lord, His Word, and all of His people.
Here is a video that explains where I am coming from.
Why Would a Trinitarian Reject the Trinity: Part 1
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Let me know if you have any questions. The Lord Jesus bless you.
The trinity is a God dishonouring demonic doctrine.
If you read the Bible without the input of man, you would NEVER come to the trinity doctrine.
The trinity is an embarrassment to true Christians.
Well said, my brother.
I definitely have no love lost for the Trinity, and I am confident that this confusion is from the enemy. But there are true Christians who incorrectly believe in the Trinity. I not only know many, but I was one of them. Let's pray for them and not quit until we tear down this misguided false doctrine.
@BiblicalBinitarian you are right my brother, I do not condemn all who follow this demon inspired doctrine, I am aware that many are sincere and would give their life for this man's doctrine.
It makes it all the more imperative to get the truth out there.
I've read a forum, you can search it, basically said, there was inherent risk of the methods Bible is preserve till today. There is a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy. I've found the forum (twice of different website) when I search about the missing verse and the other verse that have different translation. Or, even I can add in my own term, a translation of a translation of a translation, also revision of revision.
Yes, some would defend that, but at the end of the day, it is a holy book. And those small rift become larger. And that's how it is, someone mislead or change or whatever according to their agenda, and produce trinity. It is a holy book, remember.
Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
Proverbs 3:5-6
I love that verse.
@Rose A Hi , I have been reviewing the conversation about whether GOD is one. And I do see the problem first of all unless one is fluent in Hebrew the meaning get confused in the translation of the Hebrew text. Secondly what you as well as the trinitarians are describing is someone with Dissociative identity disorder, also know as multiple personality disorder. Please read the definition I have provided for you okay.
Dissociative identity disorder is characterized by the presence of two or more distinct personality identities. Each may have a unique name, personal history, and characteristics.
Dissociative identity disorder, previously called multiple personality disorder, is usually a reaction to trauma as a way to help a person avoid bad memories. Source Mayo Clinic
GOD is NOT schizophrenic okay, neither does He have a multi personality disorder.
Thirdly the reason you can’t understandThe Nature of GOD is because you are not Born Again.
JESUS CHRIST/ YEHOSHUA HAMASHIACH said in John 3:3 except you are Born Again you can NOT ‘ SEE’ The Kingdom of GOD.” That word ‘SEE’ in Hebrew is ראה and it means to perceive , or to understand. Thus Christ is saying except you are Born Again you will not be able to understand what The Kingdom of GOD is all about.
Okay my friend, once you have been born again of water and of The Spirit you won’t be able to understand. Now the instructions on how to be Born Again , is found in Acts2:38 the key man Peter tells us how!
You seem like a beautiful person and The LORD sent me here to help you as well as others on this page, to find TRUTH! Now whether you will hear or forbear is up to you.
I am praying for you because I really do care!😊
We as humans do not grasp what or how exactly God is.
I understand it like this.
God is almighty, omnipotent, without being or end. Divine.
Yeshua his begotten because it comes from the Father.
Subject to the Father. Divine.
The mediator, the word,the creator.
Hole Spirit the power that emanates from God and wills anything that Gods wants to be done.
I don’t know that it has a form as it says of the Father and Son.
So it isn’t easy to understand but I am aware that there’s each one and for my salvation I know that there’s a God YHWH his Son Yeshua and the Holy Spirit.
Rev says that there’s more things we will learn after all of this. So I pray for wisdom, endurance, holding on because we are humans.
Yes, we can not lean on our or people’s understanding I don’t push it on people because what if I’m saying something that is not so in everything I keep praying for guidance.
Notice he doesn't actually disprove the trinity, let alone even attempt to. Why? Because he can't. He can tell you how he would go about it, but he's never ac5ually disproved it himself. Just as a husband and wife become one flesh, the father, the son, and the Holy Spirit are one God. You don't have to understand how something works to know that it works. God himself said that His nature and His ways are beyond human comprehension. Notice the bible says "He is one" one has other meanings. An egg for instance is one egg. It's made up of a shell, a yolk, and the white, but it's still just 1 egg. A candy bar is mult8ple ingredients, but still one candy bar. The human body is made up of multiple cells and organs and appendages, but it's still 1 body. It's really not that hard to understand. Only an unregenerate heart and an apostate would have issues with understanding. When you say jesus isn't also God, you are denying your only hope for salvation which intern makes you an apostate. Apostasy is renouncing your faith. Our faith is that christ died for our sins and we are now forgiven. How could christ die for our sins if he was only a human? God said that humanity is fallen and corrupted. There are verses that prove Jesus has to be God. Isaiah , God said that He alone will be our savior. How are we saved? Through the death of christ. If jesus isn't God, then God didn't save us as He said. On the other hand, if jesus isn't God, but God said in isiaiah that He alone would be our salvation, then He lied by sending jesus as our salvation. Paul even says "it was jesus who led the israelites through the desert as a flame by night and a pillar of smoke by day. All of you saying jesus isn't also God, are denying your only savior and hope for salvation. This guy is a goat. A tare, leading you all astray from your Lord.😢
Last th8ng to consider: if the holy ghost isn't a person, why does jesus refer to him as a helper? Why is He considered a He? If it isn't a living person, how can He be grieved? For instance, I can't grieve my car. I can grieve my dog by teasing him with food. But I can't grieve the food by feeding it to the dog.
Not in this YT Short but in this video I do.
Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments
ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.html
Let me know your responses to any of the 5 challenges for Trinitarians.
@BiblicalBinitarian ok. I watched it and I'm still not convinced. Here's a challenge from me to you: if the holy spirit isn't a person of the trinity, why does jesus tell us that when we are baptized, we are to do so in "the name of the father, the son, and of the Holy spirit"? Why add the holy spirit in there if its just The father and the son? Wouldn't jesus just say "baptize in the name of the father and the son"?
Part 2: the bible warns us not to grieve the Holy spirit. As far as i know, a non-living thing cannot be grieved. A non-personal thing cannot be grieved. I can't grieve a tree by cutting it down, but I can grieve my neighbor for cutting his tree down. I can't grieve my car by not putting oil in it, but I can grieve myself when the engine blows because of it.
How is it possible to grieve something that isn't alive and personal? It's not. Logically speaking.
Also, jesus calls him the helper. How can a non living thing be a helper?
There is no scripture that proves the Trinity Doctrine. All scripture disproves it.
@@o0HERO0o So let's just ignore Genesis, where it speaks of the Spirit over the waters. Might as well throw out Psalm 2, since it mentions Christ.
Is there any point in trying to convince a man of the Trinity, when he denies Christ himself? It is like trying to explain calculus to someone who doesn't know basic math. 😕
Next he'll *prove* a meth lab blew up and everything you see around you 'just so happened.'
Thanks for posting. No, I definitely believe that the Father made all things through the Son of God.
I assume that you have not heard someone make the Biblical case for Binitarianism.
Here are two brief videos that do the job. We have more. But let me know your initial thoughts.
7 Reasons Why Paul Was Binitarian
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Why the Trinity Triangle is Wrong
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May the Lord Jesus bless you.
Part of Deuteronomy 6:4 says, The LORD our God is one LORD;
God is 3 in 1, so 3 divine beings make up God, and even though there are 3 beings in God, it makes up one, so yes, there is one God and one Lord but the three persons are not Lords, they make up a Lord. If I confused you, sorry I make things hard to understand.
Thanks. I respect the case you are making for the Trinity from the Bible. I used to teach, preach, and believe similarly.
Would you consider giving me a fair hearing from the Scriptures?
Let me know if the Bible explicitly teaches threefold love of the Father for the Spirit and the Son. We believe that the Son is fully divine and has always been the Father's beloved Son. But what verse teaches directly that there is threefold love between three divine persons?
What's Missing in the Trinity Triangle?
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Please kindly attempt to **respond** to at least **one** of the specific challenges. I will read your points:
Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments
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May the Lord Jesus bless you.
The Hebrew word for "one" in Deuteronomy 6:4 is very complicated. It can mean: another into one, one and on another, unique, united, one will to another, etc. It has a lot of different meanings. However, the point is that there is a plurality which is within that Hebrew word for "one". Thus, Moses saying "One" can literally mean "many in one."
“For there are three that bear record in heaven, The Father, The Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are in one.” 1 John 5:7
If you will read the entire chapter of that scripture, you will find that it is not about the Godhead of the Bible. When I started reading the Bible I wrote these things down as topic of my studies in the Godhead of the bible; Who is God. About God. Who is Jesus. About Jesus. What is the Holy Spirit. About the Holy Spirit. First and foremost we are instructed and warned to not add nor take away from God's word ie add ANY religious belief that has been handed down to you by any man. You find such great treasure if you will do that. Also having a Strongs Concordance you will have access to finding that God's name is not God and Jesus is not the true name of the Son of God in the NT....and innumerable pearls of truth that the author of the Bible will be revealed to you. You need no man to teach you anything, and it is our responsibility to search God' word to know if the things of the religious are true.
Happy Studies
Hi. Thanks for posting. Almost 30 years ago, one of the verses that convinced me of the Trinity was 1 John 5:7 (KJV).
However, I was surprised when I researched further and discovered that it is widely known that this verse is not included in John's original epistle.
Even the New King James Version notes: "Only 4 or 5 very late mss. contain these words in Greek."
Link
www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+john+5&version=NKJV#fen-NKJV-30632b
Additionally, Martin Luther did not include it in his translation from the Greek Text to German since it was not in the original editions of Erasmus' critical text.
Let me know if you are open to learning more about this topic.
May the Lord Jesus bless you.
What's Missing in the Trinity Triangle?
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The famous comma
He literally proves the trinity on how own example table 😂
Thanks for posting. Let's check out all the claims of the Trinity.
Here is my Trinitarian chart (I will be generous):
Deut 6:04 God is One 1
Mat 3:16 3 Distinct Persons 1/2
Mat 28:19 One God is 3 Persons 1/2
John 14:15-17 Father is Not the Spirit 1/2
John 16:07-15 Father is Not the Spirit 1/2
Acts 5:01-05 Holy Spirit is God -1
Actually teaches "the God" is the Holy Spirit.
1 Co 8:5-6 One God is 3 Persons -1
2 Co 13:11-14 3 Distinct Persons 1/2
2 Co 3:14-18 The Lord is the Spirit -1
Mat 11:27 Spirit and Father Know Son -1
Mat 11:27 Spirit and Son Know Father -1
1 Jo 4:13-14 Father Does Not Give Out of Own His Spirit -1
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Total Score: -2.5 out of 12
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For our analysis of these Trinity proof text passages:
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@@BiblicalBinitarian You know what, you can't say the Bible is wrong ok? Trinity exists. Also, is this a test in the Bible to give numbers and add like marks? In simplest statements, God is one, but in 3 forms. The three forms are the same but different. I know it doesn't make sense but this is the truth.
1 John 5:7 (NKJV)
For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one.
John 1:1 (NKJV)
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Hi. Thanks for posting. Almost 30 years ago, one of the verses that convinced me of the Trinity was 1 John 5:7 (KJV).
However, I was surprised when I researched further and discovered that it is widely known that this verse is not included in John's original epistle.
Even the New King James Version notes: "Only 4 or 5 very late mss. contain these words in Greek."
Link
www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+john+5&version=NKJV#fen-NKJV-30632b
Additionally, Martin Luther did not include it in his translation from the Greek Text to German since it was not in the original editions of Erasmus' critical text.
Let me know if you are open to learning more about this topic or about what Biblical Binitarians believe.
May the Lord Jesus bless you.
What's Missing in the Trinity Triangle?
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Trinity = Three in unity. Ie, the Trinity is one God.
Why are you trying to disprove the trinity?
Thanks for the question. Simply put, I love Christ, and He calls is to refute error.
Would you watch this video and let me know your responses in the comments.
Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments
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I think he’s trying to clarify because there are many people who can’t convert to Christianity because it teeters on polytheism if it’s the Trinity.
Because it true also only way to get heaven for more ““Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.”
- Acts 2:38
@@BluePotatoHeadwell do u knw that christianity is the highest declining religion in the world
1 John 5:7 (KJV)
Sorry my friend that's a 10 out of 1 for me
Thanks for the engagement.
Are you aware that the words of 1 John 5:7 do not appear in any Greek text prior to the 10th century?
Even the *NKJV* includes a note on this verse saying, "Only 4 or 5 very late mss. contain these words in Greek."www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+John+5&version=NKJV#fen-NKJV-30632b
Their first appearance is as a side note in the margin of a 10th century manuscript. Next, they appeared in an official text in the 16th century.
Now I know that John the Apostle lived a long life, but if you believe he wrote "these three are one" you have to believe he lived to the age of 1600 and was still tweaking his 1st epistle for centuries. Maybe 1,600 years was how long it took him before he finally understood the Trinity ; )
John seemed to already believe that the Father and the Son were one from the beginning: John 10:30, John 17:11, 17:21 17:22-23.
The KJV incorrectly included 1 John 5:7 due to Erasmus' final version of his Greek text. The earlier versions of Erasmus' text did not include it because he could not find *any* Greek manuscripts that contained it.
Are you aware that even Martin Luther did not include 1 John 5:7 in his German translation of the Bible because it was not in Erasmus' first two editions?
The NET Bible notes by Trinitarians explain the late Origins of "these three are one" in 1 John 5:7
www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+john+5&version=NET#fen-NET-30616t
You should check out this series for our analysis of common Trinity proof text passages:
ruclips.net/p/PLYGQCKKPeelrXBvfSVGmdNblbf788L9ZG
Enjoy.
Trinity is a 3rd century concept to bring order to the Christian world. Jesus came to earth and broadcasted God's words. Here is God's quote in Duetoronomy 👇
Deuteronomy 18:18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
Deuteronomy 18:19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.
Jesus then says he speaks from God's authority, not his. 👇
John 14:10-11
New International Version
10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. 11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves
Here is God proclaiming his son, Jesus Christ👇
Matthew 3:17
New International Version
17 And a voice from heaven said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.”
EDIT: SEE BELOW👇
Thanks. Here are a few videos that you may enjoy. Let me know your thoughts.
The Lord Jesus bless you.
Why We Do Not Believe in Two Gods
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7 Reasons Why Paul Was Binitarian
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EDIT:
I'm at a conflict I must admit, asking God for answers..
In the OT ,
Zechariah 12:10
Him Whom They Have Pierced
10 “And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and pleas for mercy, so that, when they look on me, on him whom they have pierced, they shall mourn for him, as one mourns for an only child, and weep bitterly over him, as one weeps over a firstborn"
This passage predicts the crucifiction of Yahusha (Jesus). And God is speaking in oneness with Yahusha (Jesus) as if they're the same.
Also in 2 Peter 1:1 "Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ have received a faith as precious as ours:"
Several versions are also calling Jesus God. The Aramiac bible says "Lord and Savior".
However, in Isaiah God (Yahuah/Yahweh) states HE is the Savior
Isaiah 43:11: "Apart from Me, there is no savior"
Isaiah 12:2: "God is my savior; I will trust him and not be afraid. The LORD gives me power and strength; he is my savior"
Isaiah 49:26: "All flesh shall know that I the lord am thy Saviour"
Isaiah 45:15: "O God of Israel, the Saviour"
And Genesis 1:26, we see God starts speaking to someone for the first time
Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness"
Who is God (Yahweh) speaking to? I rule out the Angels because as far as I know Angels do not have the power to create. Is Yahweh speaking to Jesus? Holy Spirit?
I'm starting to suspect Yahweh, Jesus and possibly Holy Spirit are conjoined together like Siamese twins (or triplets).
I'm looking at this as an investigator, what are your thoughts?
You can be a husband, a brother, and a cousin right? I don’t think I need to expand on this any more, Jesus has done everything for us.
When u try to use human logic and limitation to disprove gods power 😂 The arrogance
Thanks for posting. Would you watch this video and let me know your responses in the comments.
Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments
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how do I subscribe to your channel?
Hi. Click this link and then select the subscribe button ruclips.net/channel/UC_5rgqPtzZVFj4YEuuJoISA
@@BiblicalBinitarian thanks I just subscribed 😀
@@nelsonnjikelani4844 Welcome. This is an engaging channel. I pray you will find the content edifying and God-oriented and Christ-centered.
@@BiblicalBinitarian Amen brother 🙏. Definitely will do.
God is one god or person? Or does “one” mean “unity” in this quote? gotta dig a lil deeper
Hello. Actually, I did spendmany years assuming a threefold unity was possible for the Hebrew word "one" in Deuteronomy 6:4. I attempted to argue that since there are a few instances where the Hebrew word **echad** refers to a compound unity (see Genesis 2:4), then this is what it **must** have also meant in Deut. 6:4.
Aside from this not being a solid argument, what I sadly missed was that in all of the few places where echad refers to a compound unity those few passages also explicitly state what is being united (e.g., the two shall become one, night and day as one day, two sticks as one stick, all the men of Israel assembled one man, eyc.). Deuteronomy 6:4 does not include language providing specific details of a combined divine unity. Unfortunately, that must be assumed.
Amazingly, none of the authentic verses of God's Word (Hebrew or Greek) contains a statement like "the three are one" applying to the Father, the Son, and the Spirit. None.
Ironically, we have several that say that the Father and Son are united as one (John 10:30, John 17:11, 17:21 17:22-23). This is clearly one of the major differences between Biblical Binitarianism and the Trinity. Please let me know if you have any objections.
I have asked many others who do not respond, but would you watch this video and let me know your responses in the comments?
Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments
ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.html
*Did somebody say heresy?*
Here is my Trinitarian chart (I will be generous):
Deut 6:04 God is One 1
Mat 3:16 3 Distinct Persons 1/2
Mat 28:19 One God is 3 Persons 1/2
John 14:15-17 Father is Not the Spirit 1/2
John 16:07-15 Father is Not the Spirit 1/2
Acts 5:01-05 Holy Spirit is God -1
Actually teaches "the God" is the Holy Spirit.
1 Co 8:5-6 One God is 3 Persons -1
2 Co 13:11-14 3 Distinct Persons 1/2
2 Co 3:14-18 The Lord is the Spirit -1
Mat 11:27 Spirit and Father Know Son -1
Mat 11:27 Spirit and Son Know Father -1
1 Jo 4:13-14 Father Does Not Give Out of Own His Spirit -1
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Total Score: -2.5 out of 12
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For our analysis of these Trinity proof text passages:
ruclips.net/p/PLYGQCKKPeelrXBvfSVGmdNblbf788L9ZG
God is only one the trinity is paganism
U literally proved the trinity
@Mason Great, but only after 20+ years of trying. Specifically, how do the charts below prove the Trinity :)
Here is my Trinitarian chart (I will be generous):
Deut 6:04 God is One 1
Mat 3:16 3 Distinct Persons 1/2
Mat 28:19 One God is 3 Persons 1/2
John 14:15-17 Father is Not the Spirit 1/2
John 16:07-15 Father is Not the Spirit 1/2
Acts 5:01-05 Holy Spirit is God -1
Actually teaches "the God" is the Holy Spirit.
1 Co 8:5-6 One God is 3 Persons -1
2 Co 13:11-14 3 Distinct Persons 1/2
2 Co 3:14-18 The Lord is the Spirit -1
Mat 11:27 Spirit and Father Know Son -1
Mat 11:27 Spirit and Son Know Father -1
1 Jo 4:13-14 Father Does Not Give Out of Own His Spirit -1
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Total Score: -2.5 out of 12
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For our analysis of these Trinity proof text passages:
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@@BiblicalBinitarian Almost all of them, if not all, comply with the doctrine
@Mason Nice try. But let's answer specifics. What about these that negated by Scripture (hence the -1).
Explain why these verses do not negate core Trinitarian claims. Please kindly be specific, or I will assume you are unable to.
1 Co 8:5-6 One God is 3 Persons -1
2 Co 3:14-18 The Lord is the Spirit -1
Mat 11:27 Spirit and Father Know Son -1
Mat 11:27 Spirit and Son Know Father -1
1 Jo 4:13-14 Father Does Not Give Out of Own His Spirit -1
Those who say, “Allah is one in a Trinity,” have certainly fallen into disbelief. There is only One God. If they do not stop saying this, those who disbelieve among them will be afflicted with a painful punishment
Quran ( 5:73)
and to warn those who claim, “Allah has offspring. They have no knowledge of this, nor did their forefathers. What a terrible claim that comes out of their mouths! They say nothing but lies.
Quran (18:4-5)
O People of the Book! Do not go to extremes regarding your faith; say nothing about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, was no more than a messenger of Allah and the fulfilment of His Word through Mary and a spirit ˹created by a command˺ from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers and do not say, “Trinity.” Stop!-for your own good. Allah is only One God. Glory be to Him! He is far above having a son! To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And Allah is sufficient as a Trustee of Affairs.
Quran (4:171)
Thanks for the response. I have read and reread the Quaran (an English interpretation). Here are a few of my questions.
Since you are convinced that you follow Jesus, the Messiah, I would ask you what you think about Jesus?
Jesus is so great that He is even described in the **Quran** like no one else:
1) Jesus was born of a virgin
2) Jesus is the promised messiah (the Anointed One), not just a prophet.
3) He did a multitude of miracles. More than any other human.
4) Jesus is the only human to live a sinless life. This is even greater than His miracles. He obeyed His God as a Son.
5) Jesus has an entire holy book about Him (Injil). Though Muhammad never read it, he instructed Muslims to read it. In what specific Surah and Ayah did Muhammad say the Injil had been corrupted? Have you read the preserved ancient manuscripts that were around in the time of Muhammad when he spoke strongly about the Injil?
6) Jesus has followers and is known all over the world. This is just as the Old Testament prophets said hundreds of years before His birth. He is known for His love and the gift of salvation to all nations.
7) Jesus will return again.
Bonus: The Gospel (Injil) teaches that Jesus fulfills the prophetic words of Abraham (Torah) and King David (the Zabur) that God would provide Himself a sacrifice in the same place where Abraham prepared to offer his son. God actually fulfilled this by offering His Son for our sins.
I look forward to your responses.
Never knew a man could forgive sins...huh
Yall keep the sabbath holy today?
HI. I am not a sabbatarian. I live under the Law of the Messiah in place of the Law of Moses. I hope this passage clarifies what I believe.
1 Corinthians 9:20-21, ESV
20 To the Jews I became as a Jew, in order to win Jews. To those under the law I became as one under the law (though *not* being myself under the law) that I might win those under the law. 21 To those outside the law I became as one outside the law (not being outside the law of God but *under* the law of Christ) that I might win those outside the law.
You don’t need to disprove it they just need to prove it first
Your Mind, your Soul and your Body, 3 parts yet still one you.
That's an interesting argument. However, if you don't mind, may I point out one big problem: No one in the Bible ever makes this analogy.
Would you consider reviewing this video and posting your comments. I look forward to your responses. Enjoy.
Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments
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those arent 3 seperate entities those are all me. literally calling God your Father negates you being equal or identical to Him. who is the father or mother of God? God? wake up
That's actually modalism buddy. God is not 3 parts. 1 God is 3 separate persons.
Except we’re talking about three separate beings…..
@Jared G Deuteronomy 4:6
"Hear O'Israel! Lord is our God, God is one(Echad).
Echad means separate entities combined together. Jesus himself said this.
"Before Abraham was I AM." Jesus Christ (I will take the word of Jesus Christ over the word of any man, any time.)
We are Biblical Binitarians, so we agree.
I have asked many others who do not respond, but would you watch this video and let me know your responses in the comments?
Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments
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You mean Zues? Cool.
@@alyenendrovtsorokean7406 lol! The son of God knows exactly who he is. So do the demons.You will find out one day as well.😉
John's use of the imperfect tense shows continuous duration of
existence in the past & continuing into the future.
I agree. In the beginning, the Word was with [the] God, and the Word was God. The Son has always been with God, the definitive deity, the Son has always been deity.
Here is what we believe as Biblical Binitarians.
22 Affirmations and Denials
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Playlist
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Why I Became a Biblical Binitarian: Mario Shepard a.co/d/bM0H9FT
As regards the doctrine of the trinity Jesus is very clear: He states to be ALWAYS in a PERMANENT EXTREMELY CLOSE UNION WITH THE FATHER "I am in the Father and the Father is in me". PERIOD! This is REITERATED by Jesus FOUR GOSPELS OF TIMES. You can see from Jesus' statements that He is ONLY WITH THE FATHER, this is even clearly SPECIFIED more times by Him (" I am not ALONE because..."). In other words JESUS - who is "WELL INFORMED" on this matter - IS NOT TRINITARIAN! We must trust Him!
The trinity doctrine comes from a poor understanding of the four gospels: it isn't understood that they disclose three divine NAMES, not three divine PERSONS! This means that those THREE names must map onto TWO divine persons. Indeed 1. God and 2. the Spirit of God (God who is a spirit) are just TWO different PERSPECTIVES of the same ONE almighty God.
Thanks Claudio. I have recently checked out your channel. You seem to have some original angles on the Father and the Son. I would be interested in dialog ing with you Please send me an email: BiblicalBinitarian@gmail.com.
Yes you’re right there is only ONE: Jesus Christ said that He is the Father and The Holy Ghost :
“Philip saith unto Him, Lord, SHEW US THE FATHER, and it sufficeth us. Jesus saith unto him, HAVE I BEEN SO LONG TIME WITH YOU, AND YET HAST THOU NOT KNOWN ME, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?”
John 14:8-9
“But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost…”
John 14:26
”I will not leave you comfortless: I WILL COME TO YOU.”
John 14:18
All born again sons are one with the father. Read the rest of John. Romans 1:3-4, Isaiah 40:3 in hebrew refutes your understanding of the corrupted gospels.
@@RoseSharon7777 “Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.”
Acts 2:38-39
@@FreeinChristForever Unfortunately you havent figured out what the name of Jesus christ means. May i suggest you read the OT using a lexicon. Its NOT a human being.
If you do not believe that GOD is one in three persons namely the FATHER, SON and The HOLY SPIRIT. Can you then explain this passage for me:
“Come near to Me, hear this: I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; From the time that it was, I was there. And now the Lord God and His Spirit Have sent Me.”
Isaiah 48:16 NKJV
To me it seems like GOD is referring to another person as GOD, the one who sends him and his SPIRIT.
If the HOLY TRINITY doesn't make sense to you, its ok you can't understand an eternal being.
Thanks for posting. Great question.
It is my prayer to a video on this verse one day.
When I approach any passage I ask at least 5 questions.
1) What are Trinitarians claiming and assuming a about?
2) Are there any words from the text that need to be clarified by the original languages (Hebrew or Greek)?
3) What does the text itself actually say?
4) What must the text assume from the words and the context?
5) Are there any other *strongly* related passages that provide more clarity and confirmation?
For Isaiah 48:16, let's answer these questions.
1) Trinitarians claim that Jesus is speaking in the first person, especially in verse 16. Most assume that the reference to the LORD God is a reference to the Father. The Father is the one who sent the Son. They also assume that his spirit, the LORD God's spirit does not refer simply to the LORD God's own divine spirit, but a distinct divine person, the Holy Spirit.
Let me know if this is correct.
2) For the text, let's look at the NET, ESV, and the NRSV, all strong translations.
NET:
"Approach me-listen to this! From the very first I have not spoken in secret; when it happens, I am there.”
So now, the Sovereign Lord has sent me, accompanied by his Spirit.
ESV:
Draw near to me, hear this: from the beginning I have not spoken in secret, from the time it came to be I have been there. And now the Lord God has sent me, and his Spirit.
NRSV:
Draw near to me; hear this! From the beginning I have not spoken in secret; from the time it came to be I have been there.
And now the Lord God has sent me and his spirit.
There are not any major differences. The NRSV uses lowercase for spirit in the Old Testament, because the Hebrew does not require a capital or lowercase.
The ESV and NRSV translate the last line as "the Lord God has sent me and his spirit." The NET has "accompanied by his Spirit." The NET is making is emphasizing the proximity and personal closeness. The Hebrew is not as specific.
If you are good up to this point please kindly reply and I will provide my explanation of the next three points.
Be blessed.
@@BiblicalBinitarian You can go on
Excellent.
3) The identity of the speaker in 48:16b is inconclusive.
I believe that Isaiah 48:12-16a is the LORD God. I believe that 48:16b is Cyrus (see points #4 and #5 below).
There are two major reasons for this. First, the text does not provide a specific identification for the speaker of 48:16b. You will notice that most translations end after the quotation from 48:12 at 48:16a.
"from the time it came to be I have been there." See NIV, ESV, NET, NRSV, HCSB, etc. The NKJV and NASB include 48:16b in the entire quotation. Most people miss this point.
Everything from 48:12 - 48:16a is clearly the LORD God. But Isaiah 48:16b is an abrupt declaration of an unidentified speaker. The only two requirements are that the speaker must be someone sent by the LORD and someone whom God has given His spirit to. Cyrus, the prophesied Persian King, is all of these things, specifically called God's anointed (Isaiah 45:1):
"Thus says the Lord to his anointed, to *Cyrus* whose right hand I have grasped, to subdue nations before him and to loose the belts of kings, to open doors before him that gates may not be closed."
Another example similar to this passage is Isaiah 46:8-11.
This is where context provides us with the clues.
4) Major points about Cyrus. Most people are unaware that Isaiah 48:16b comes right at the end of an extended section about the LORD AND King Cyrus (from Isaiah 44:21 to Isaiah 48:22).
Throughout these five chapters, the LORD God repeatedly describes Himself as the one who has been speaking from the beginning. The one who laid the foundation of the earth. He is the one who will accomplish His purposes for Israel.
He also repeatedly refers to Cyrus by name as His coming "shepherd" (44:28), "His anointed" (45:1), the one He "calls by name" (45:3-4), the one He "stirred up in righteousness" (45:13), "the man of His counsel" (46:11), and "His ally" (48:14), who will accomplish His plan to end Israel's Babylonian captivity.
Therefore, all commentators acknowledge Cyrus' significance as a Persian whom God calls and names and uses to set His people free. Therefore, this is recognized as the Cyrus section of Isaiah. See also 2 Chronicles 36:22-23, the book of Ezra, and Daniel 6).
5) When we also consider that neither the Lord Jesus nor the Apostles applied this passage to Christ, we can not conclusively do the same.
We can also note that Isaiah 48:20 is the final mention of Bablylon and Chaldea for the remainder of the book of Isaiah.Chapters 44-48 end with the LORD God saying, "Go out from Babylon, flee from Chaldea ... 'The LORD has redeemed his servant Jacob!"
*Conclusion*
The NET Bible study notes state regarding Isaiah 48:16b, "The speaker here is not identified specifically, but he is probably Cyrus, the LORD's 'ally' mentioned in vv. 14-15."
I agree.
Some translations and commentators (e.g., John Calvin) view 48:16b as the introduction to 48:17-19, making the prophet Isaiah the speaker.
Please let me know your thoughts and comments
I explore passages like this and others in my book, "Why I Became a Biblical Binitarian."
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Here is a video where I explain some of the next-level challenges for the Trinity.
Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments
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May God greatly bless you for reading this much.
@@BiblicalBinitarian great answer, the question for biblical proof that I understood is that GOD has attributes that only belong to him alone such as ALPHA and OMEGA, THE BEGINNING and THE END...etc.
Those names/attributes are for GOD ALMIGHTY only, if anyone claims them for himself is blasphemer*.
I get your argument about the Isaiah passage, there's a similar concept in Genesis 19 vs 24
" Then the Lord rained brimstone and fire on Sodom and Gomorrah, from the Lord out of the heavens."
Even here there's two people referred to as LORD in my understanding. There's also quite a few verses where the attributes of GOD are given to His SON and His SPIRIT.
Here is video of one explaining the trinity, maybe you'll get some understanding.
@@BiblicalBinitarian ruclips.net/video/koWH47deHfk/видео.html
The ancient heretics are back
Thanks for posting.
I assume that you have not heard someone make the Biblical case for Binitarianism.
Here are two brief videos that do the job. We have more. But let me know your initial thoughts.
7 Reasons Why Paul Was Binitarian
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Why the Trinity Triangle is Wrong
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May the Lord Jesus bless you.
Bro missed the council of Nicaea💀💀💀
LOL. Good one.
But you already know that I am closer to Athanasius than I am to Arius.
I am Binitarian in the following ways:
1. Distinct Identites of God and Christ.
2. Full Divinity of God and Christ.
3. The Eternity of God and Christ.
4. The Unity of God and Christ as one spirit.
Except for #1, Arius would not hold to all of these.
I agree with Arius in only two ways.
1. Reject complex monotheism (multiple persons in the One God).
2. Belief in the subordinationism of the Son to the Father.
Here are a few videos that you may enjoy. Let me know your thoughts.
Is Jesus the Most High God?
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Why We Do Not Believe in Two Gods
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7 Reasons Why Paul Was Binitarian
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May the Lord Jesus bless you.
He was Trinitarian. Quit spreading your heresies.
"No responsible NT scholar would claim that the doctrine of the Trinity was taught by Jesus or preached by the earliest Christians or consciously held by any writer of the NT. It was in fact slowly worked out in the course of the first few centuries…"
(Hanson, Anthony Tyrrell. The Image of the Invisible God.)
Trinity simply describes what is taught. God is one - father son and holy ghost. God the Father and the Holy spirit don't get jealous when you glorify Jesus. They are one. You honour -worship- one you worship or honour them all. Not a problem
@@senkat8747
🗡THE ADDED TRINITY HERESY OF JOHN 5
THE TRUTH IN THE ORIGINAL GREEK! ❤
1 John 5:6-8 Greek Orinlginal Version
6 This is he that came by water and blood, Jesus Christ, not by water only, but by water and blood, and the Spirit beareth witness, because the spirit is truth.
✅️7These three they are for the witnessing, 8 the spirit, the water, and the blood, and these three agree in one.✅️
🔥When he was nailed to the cross the water and the blood that leaked from his side when he was pierced by the spear was for a witness of the truth, and the Spirit of truth that came over those who saw and knew right away from His teachings of blood and water prophecy of psalms 22 is a witness in itself.🔥
John 19:34-35 KJV
34 But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water.
35 And he that saw it bare record, and his record is true: and he knoweth that he saith true, that ye might believe.
🔥Come out of Nicolatians/Nicaean Council Heresy doctrines that are the seat of Satan's foundation.
The 1st beast in Revelations 13 is The Roman Empire and Roman Catholic Church, and The Second beast that rose to power after the first beast fell out of power was America and Westernized Christianity. Pointing the world back to worshipping the first beast, Nicaean/Nicolatians doctrines 3 in 1 Trinity Heresy.🔥
🗡Revelation 2:15-17 KJV🗡
[15]So hast thou also them that hold THE DOCTRINE OF THE NICOLAITANS, WHICH THING I HATE.
[16]👉🏽Repent; or else👈🏿 I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth. [17]He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the called ones; TO him THAT OVERCOMETH will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.
The Trinity is a three part deception in itself.
The False Father - Roman Catholic Pope.
The False Son - Westernized Christianity Jesus is GOD.
The False Holy Spirit/teacher/Prophet - Islam/Muhammad.
Roman Catholic Church Nicaean Council exalted Christ's divinity too high, so that Islam could come and bring his divinity too low. And Westernized Christianity comes along to be in comparison to Catholicism that the devil made overwhelmingly False, so that Westernized Christianity with its bae heresy would look like the truth.
Catholic = Kool-Aid
Westernized Christianity = Gstorade
May be less poison in it, and filled with more pure water, and eems hydrating in comparison, but it still ain't 100% pure life giving water.
Its all part of the great deception.
@@senkat8747 brother that's polytheism. Be careful.
Accurate OT Translations still have trinity bogus video
No disagreements. The NRSV does a great job with the Old Testament and some of the New Testament.
Genesis 1:26 "And God said, let US make man in OUR image" The Trinity is mentioned 3 times 1. GOD, 2. US, and 3. OUR in the verse.
Right. TRINITARIANS use so many abstract scriptures to prove Trinity. So many concrete scriptures are against it.
Since d Mind, Soul and Spirit of a human being doesn't make them 1/3 of us (Human).
The Mind, Soul and Spirit is 100% human. But in spiritual affairs they have different departments....
Since we're made in d image of God isn't our Mind, Soul and Spirit d best explanation for d Trinity? Or aren't we evidence of it?
Mind(which is a part of d body, in hierarchy it holds d other two and "scientifically, it is true we operate and move according to d brain ") = The Father
Soul = The Son (who is d soul saver, the savior of our souls)
Spirit = The Holy Spirit (The one who connects us to d Transcendent and helps us communicate with d other two)
That's why if we have all 3, d bible says we'll be made whole. Right?
Yeah right, the Bible teaches the trinity from Genesis to Revelation.
@@KyrieEleisonMaranatha ok.
Exactly
your mind is too small to understand
Persons in the Trinity is not the same as
“There were 3 persons in my car.”
What's Missing in the Trinity Triangle?
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@@BiblicalBinitarian
The Trinity triangle is not the Trinity
Lord Jesus Is Yehova John 13:19 Exodus 3:14
He completely ignored 1 John 5:7. “For there are three that bear record in heaven the father, the word (Jesus), and the holy spirit; and these three are ONE.”
Actually, I am working on a video to address why that verse is not authentic and the first Greek text that included it did not exist until the 16th century. Even the New King James Version notes that it does not exist in any early Greek manuscripts. Even Martin Luther did not include it in his German translation of the Bible.
You should also research the history behind 1 John 5:7. It is interesting. Here is the link. Let me know your comments.
1 John 5:7
NET notes by Trinitarians explain.
www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+john+5&version=NET#fen-NET-30616t
*Scroll* down to this part of the article.
This reading, the infamous Comma Johanneum, has been known in the English-speaking world through the King James translation.
3 what?
@@Alamoboxing 3 persons in 1 God.
Someone explained it to me as one in purpose not the same
@@dhrtiwalter8670 They are all co-equal and co-eternal, 3 persons in 1 God, simple as that.
This doesn't disprove the trinity, the entire bible teaches the trinity.
Thanks for posting. Would you watch this video and let me know your responses in the comments?
Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments
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This video provides a solid Biblical disproof of the Trinity.
It actually don’t because christ wasn’t even born the whole Bible 😭 lord jesus
@@qstylezhairboutique8951 the angel of the lord in the Old Testament is Jesus Christ pre incarnation
Have you ever heard a challenge to that assumption: The angel of the Lord is the Lord Jesus in the Old Testament?
Common assumptions often result in common mistakes.
For example, if Jesus is the angel of the Lord then who was the angel of the Lord in Matthew 1:20?
Second, what would be your answer to both of the questions rhetorically asked by the writer of Hebrews: "For to which of the angels did God ever say, "You are my Son, today I have begotten you” (Hebrews 1:5). And, "... And to which of the angels has he ever said, “Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet” (Hebrews 1:13)? What would you respond?
There are several more. I personally believe Michael, the Archangel, is most likely the angel of the Lord. His name means Who is like God and he is called Israel's prince.
However, Jesus was never an angel of the Lord, but he has always been the image of the Lord, bearing His Fathers name and sharing His glory.
Let me know your thoughts and comments. Stay blessed.
Thanks for posting. Would you watch this video and let me know your responses in the comments.
Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments
ruclips.net/video/MQfKdQQiXNE/видео.html
God’s ways are often beyond human understanding:
Many people believe that God’s ways are often beyond human understanding, and that His methods may seem illogical or mysterious to us. This is reflected in the phrase “God works in mysterious ways,” which is often used to describe situations where God’s actions seem inexplicable or unpredictable
So many contradictions
There is no way the bible remained untouched for centuries yet still contain these massive contradictive phrases.
That's what the Quran says, and it's actually true if you leave bias and start thinking logically.
Delusional people 😂😂😩. You see the truth but you're scared of it 🤣😩
Please make your chart in the comments and demonstrate your beliefs. I provided two above.
You the deluded one 3 can't be 1 if one prays for another to do sum they don't have matching willa
Wills god doesn't pray to God god doesn't eat he doesn't hide he doesn't forget he does not know sumthing
@TYM Zay I assume this is not for me, since I am Binitarian. I also believe the Father is the true and living God.
@TYM Zay Actually, Binitarians would agree. But we also believe that Jesus is the Supreme Agent of God. He can be sent by God in the likeness of man. God can do all things and giving His Son was His greatest gift. This reminds us of Abraham offering his son. But God did not spare His Son. He died for the complete forgiveness of the sins of those who need to be rescued. What about you, would you want total forgiveness?
I have found a non Trinitarian Christian 😊 subhanallah
Thanks. Hopefully, you have also found another Christian who has much to say about Jesus, the God's image and man's savior.
@AverageMuslimInOhio Salam Alaikum Habibi
@@BiblicalBinitarian You know we don't follow the name JE'ZEUS referring to ZEUS the trinity.. Yeshua Eesa the son of Mary may peace be upon them.
The Returning Messiah of Allah! Learn Arama-ic God preserved this language in the modern day wich is Arab-ic = Semit-ic.
Yeshua said: Elah elah is the same as "LA Illaha Ill'Allah"
i have found no muslim who thinks muslim wasn't a pedo in their hearts
@@shtman504 🥲 I will entertain your lack of a father figure by responding to your comment to give you much needed attention 😃, Ps you just posted your comment and it has a like I’m pretty sure we all know who liked it *you*
Quickest way to prove the Trinity. Is that paper one piece with three parts that all serve a different function but are equal in substance and value?
You get points for originality. But the only paper-proof that I am looking for is from the 66 books.
Please take a look at these and let me know your comments.
What's Missing in the Trinity Triangle?
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Please kindly attempt to **respond** to at least **one** of the specific challenges. I will read your points:
Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments
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May the Lord Jesus bless you.
Isaiah 44:6 - Revelation 1:17-18 - Revelation 1:8, Acts 28:25-27 - Isaiah 6:9:10, 1 Corinthians 8:6, John 8:58, Revelation 5:13, John 1:23 - Isaiah 40:3, John 1:1, John 4:24, Acts 5:3-5
Here is my Binitarian chart (same verses):
Deut 6:04 God is One 1
Mat 3:16 Father Anoints the Son 1
Mat 28:19 Father Parallels Holy Spirit 1/2
Mat 11:27 Father Alone Knows the Son 1
Mat 11:27 Son Alone Knows the Father 1
John 14:15 - 17 Father is Giver & Gift 1/2
John 16:07 -15 Father is the Helper 1/2
Acts 5:01 - 05 The God is the Holy Spirit 1
1 Co 8:5-6 One God and One Lord 1
2 Co 13:11 - 14 Fellowship of the Spirit 1
2 Co 3:14 - 18 The Lord is the Spirit 1
1 Jo 4:13 - 14 Father Gives His Spirit 1
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Total Score: +10.5 out of 12
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You’re not disproving the Trinity.
@Anonymous Truth Actually, Matthew 11:25-27, along with other verses disproves the Trinity.
@@BiblicalBinitarian no it absolutely does not. You need to read the Bible a lot more. The trinity is very much true.
@Anonymous Truth Hey. I used to teach and defend it. You may be amazed to know that a few of the most well known, believing theologians on the Trinity for decades have acknowledged in their books that the New Testament is "explicitly Binitarian" and "implicitly Trinitarian." If you are interested, I can provide references. They acknowledge biblical patterns of Binitarianism. For example, human or angelic worship of three persons is never shown in the Bible (think of a verse). Here is an example of a verse negating that there is a third knower who is immediately known by the Father and the Son: ruclips.net/video/ABKSoen1YyQ/видео.html
@@BiblicalBinitarian nope 👎🏼 you’ve been deceived 💯
John 1 disproves this
Just to clarify, does John 1 disprove the Trinity or Biblical Binitarianism?
@@BiblicalBinitarian John 1 disproves the idea that the trinity is non-biblical. The Holy Spirit, Christ, and the Father, are all one being, God, but three persons. This is evident throughout scripture, and is all there in John 1
@@BiblicalBinitarian ruclips.net/video/8Ib2ffq3-NA/видео.html
Nabeel Qureshi pulls exclusively from the Bible to explain the trinity.
1 John 5:7 is the most obvious that disproves oneness.
@Christopher J You should research the history behind 1 John 5:7. It is interesting. Here is the link.
1 John 5:7
NET notes by Trinitarians explain.
www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+john+5&version=NET#fen-NET-30616t
*Scroll* down to this part of the article.
This reading, the infamous Comma Johanneum, has been known in the English-speaking world through the King James translation.
Before Abraham was I AM. I AM [JAHVE] IS THE NAME FOR GOD IN HEBREW. SO JESUS SAID I AM GOD❤
Hello. Thanks for posting.
It seems you may not be familiar with what we believe as Biblical Binitarians.
We believe that both the Father and the Son have always been and will always be fully divine. They are two fully divine, royal family heads, united as one fully divine spirit. The Son came in the name of His Father (YHWH, Yahweh). Many Old Testament Yahweh passages are applied to the Son. Like the Father, Jesus is the I AM.
Here is some content that explains more of what we believe. Let us know your particular objections or agreements.
Why We Do Not Believe in Two Gods
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7 Reasons Why Paul Was Binitarian
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Why the Trinity Triangle is Wrong
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Is Another Helper Another Person?
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22 Affirmations and Denials
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Playlist
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Why I Became a Biblical Binitarian: Mario Shepard a.co/d/bM0H9FT
May God bless you.
How about this : Just obey what Jesus said to do.
1. Jesus stated that he did not accept the praise ( glory) from men. So praising Jesus ( although warranted) is of no value .
2. Jesus gave us the Model prayer for a reason. He directs us to do what he himself did : pray to Our Father . God “ The Father “ of whom Jesus stated that He was “ My Father and Your Father , My God and your God” Is called “ The Hearer of Prayer”.
So , even if you really believe that Jesus IS God , you should still only give praise and prayer to that form of God that Jesus told you to give praise and prayer too. The very God that Jesus praised and directed his prayers too.
Please watch a few of the videos in this series and let me know your responses to the specific challenges.
Did Jesus Exist Before His Birth
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May God bless you with more knowledge of the truth (1 Corinthians 8 :4-7a).
John 20:17 Jesus has a God -1
Amen. We can make a long list of -1's for the Trinity. As a Binitarian we believe in Father-Focused Monotheism. So +1 for Binitarian chart.
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@Mario
That guy (Joe Kelly) is a Unitarian, and not a Binitarian.
@@yodhevavhe6677 Of course he is. He told me himself :) Unitarians are Christians too.
In Isaiah GOD says ' behold I AM the GOD of all flesh', if the LORDJESUS CHRIST was flesh, then He has GOD as HIS GOD.
Many verses also shown that he prayed to the only one true God
There are roughly 60 examples of the trinity described in the NT alone. There are many other descriptions of the appearance of Jesus in the OT, beginning with Genesis.
This comment section is way too small for a semi novel sized answer on this.
And before y’all come at me in response I have an associates degree in Theology and go to seminary school. The Trinity is a major part of my studies.
1 Timothy 3
16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Hello. Thanks for posting. I assume that you are Oneness in your beliefs?
I am a Biblical Binitarian, but I have respect for my Oneness brothers and sisters in Christ.
One of the passages that I examine is 1 Timothy 3:16. You probably are aware that the oldest manuscripts have who (Greek hos) for this verse. But more importantly, the verb for manifested is specifically a passive verb - was made to be manifested. This is how it is commonly applied to Jesus throughout the New Testament. He did not manifest Himself in the flesh, but He was made manifest by God.
Check out these videos and let me know your comments.
Did Jesus Exist Before His Birth?
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@@BiblicalBinitarian You are not correct all through out the bible Jesus is God in his revelation.
Revelation 1
King James Version
1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.
3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
4 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;
5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
9 I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.
10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,
11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.
12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.
17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
19 Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;
20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.
He is clearly God. When he talks to the jews he always makes hints and refrences to that and they try to stone him.
1 Corinthians 15
King James Version
15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Romans 3
King James Version
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
I hope and Pray that you are Saved and that you preach the right Gospel God bless you Amen
The Greek language here indicates two things for this verse:
The Greek does not have an indefinite article to directly translate. However, for proper translation into English the indefinite article must be included.
A god is a quality. That is why some bibles say:
1808: “and the word was a god.” The New Testament in an Improved Version, Upon the Basis of Archbishop Newcome’s New Translation: With a Corrected Text.
1864: “and a god was the word.” The Emphatic Diaglott, interlinear reading, by Benjamin Wilson.
1928: “and the Word was a divine being.” La Bible du Centenaire, L’Evangile selon Jean, by Maurice Goguel.
1935: “and the Word was divine.” The Bible-An American Translation, by J. M. P. Smith and E. J. Goodspeed.
1946: “and of a divine kind was the Word.” Das Neue Testament, by Ludwig Thimme.
1950: “and the Word was a god.” New World Translation of the Christian Greek Scriptures.
1958: “and the Word was a God.” The New Testament, by James L. Tomanek.
1975: “and a god (or, of a divine kind) was the Word.” Das Evangelium nach Johannes, by Siegfried Schulz.
1978: “and godlike kind was the Logos.” Das Evangelium nach Johannes, by Johannes Schneider.The Greek language here indicates two things for this verse:
The Greek does not have an indefinite article to directly translate. However, for proper translation into English the indefinite article must be included.
A god is a quality. That is why some bibles say:
1808: “and the word was a god.” The New Testament in an Improved Version, Upon the Basis of Archbishop Newcome’s New Translation: With a Corrected Text.
1864: “and a god was the word.” The Emphatic Diaglott, interlinear reading, by Benjamin Wilson.
1928: “and the Word was a divine being.” La Bible du Centenaire, L’Evangile selon Jean, by Maurice Goguel.
1935: “and the Word was divine.” The Bible-An American Translation, by J. M. P. Smith and E. J. Goodspeed.
1946: “and of a divine kind was the Word.” Das Neue Testament, by Ludwig Thimme.
1950: “and the Word was a god.” New World Translation of the Christian Greek Scriptures.
1958: “and the Word was a God.” The New Testament, by James L. Tomanek.
1975: “and a god (or, of a divine kind) was the Word.” Das Evangelium nach Johannes, by Siegfried Schulz.
1978: “and godlike kind was the Logos.” Das Evangelium nach Johannes, by Johannes Schneider.
I would greatly recommend researching the early church fathers because they all greatly supported the trinity and are all much smarter than you and me
Thanks. I respect your attempt to defend the Trinity. I used to teach, preach, and believe similarly. I have invested time and thought in reading the early church writings. I would argue that the earliest writers were not Trinitarian (e.g. Clement of Rome, Ignatius of Antioch). I believe the Trinity was not made official until 381 AD at the council of Constantinople.
Would you consider giving me a fair hearing from the Scriptures?
Let me know specifically if the Bible explicitly teaches threefold love of the Father for the Spirit and the Son. We believe that the Son is fully divine and has always been the Father's beloved Son. But what verse teaches directly that there is threefold love between three divine persons?
What's Missing in the Trinity Triangle?
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Please kindly attempt to **respond** to at least **one** of the specific challenges. I will read your points:
Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments
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May the Lord Jesus bless you.
@@BiblicalBinitarian I’ll be back after I watch the videos but here is a credible source that show that Clement and Ignatius were trinitarians
@@BiblicalBinitarian I will make a video showing biblical evidence for the trinity and then one about your videos
If you posted a link, then it is not showing on my side.
@@BiblicalBinitarian here it is www.um.edu.mt/library/oar/bitstream/123456789/31906/1/God_and_the_Trinity_in_the_Fathers.pdf
If you believe in a trinity, you dont believe in a monotheistic religion. You are no different than the pagans who believe in multiple gods. Simple as that.
Beother do you really think god let people be decieved for 1700 years?
Thanks for the challenge. The real question is, are we to fully trust that the original words of God are not wrong (Romans 3:4). We must always pursue the original beliefs of the Word.
We take a similar approach on the manuscripts of the New Testament - the earliest copies contain less of the traditional additions that have accumulated by Christians over the centuries. We can show that over time, traditions cause people to add to the Word what they can not find in the Word.
Each of us will have to individually give an account of himself to Christ. I will not be able to point to a church council in place of God's own Word. Let me know if you first agree on this point of human history.
Please also take a look at what Biblical Binitarians believe and let me know what specifically we are claiming that is not confessed explicitly in the Bible.
What's Missing in the Trinity Triangle?
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Debunking the Trinity in 5 Arguments
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May the Lord Jesus bless you.
- Titus 2:13-14
13 while we wait for the blessed hope-the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, 14 who gave himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify for himself a people that are his very own, eager to do what is good.
- Both the father and Jesus claim to be I AM:
Exodus 3:14
God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'I AM has sent me to you
John 8:58
Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am
-Both the father and the Son claim to be ALPHA & OMEGA, FIRST AND LAST YET ONE GOD
FATHER:
Isiah 44:6: “Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts:
‘I am the first and I am the last,
And there is no God besides Me.
Isiah 48:12: “Listen to Me, O Jacob, even Israel whom I called;
I am He, I am the first, I am also the last.
Revelations 1:8: “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”
SON:
Revelations 22 from verse 6:
6 The angel said to me (Angel which is lamb of God/ Jesus Christ) , “These words are trustworthy and true. The Lord, the God who inspires the prophets, sent his angel to show his servants the things that must soon take place.”
7 “Look, I am coming soon! Blessed is the one who keeps the words of the prophecy written in this scroll.”
8 I, John, am the one who heard and saw these things. And when I had heard and seen them, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who had been showing them to me. 9 But he said to me, “Don’t do that! I am a fellow servant with you and with your fellow prophets and with all who keep the words of this scroll. Worship God!”
10 Then he told me, “Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this scroll, because the time is near. 11 Let the one who does wrong continue to do wrong; let the vile person continue to be vile; let the one who does right continue to do right; and let the holy person continue to be holy.”
Epilogue: Invitation and Warning
12 “Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
FATHER-SON RELATIONSHIP:
John 1:1-3
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made
ABOUT THE SPIRIT:
John 15:26 26 “But when the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, the will bear witness about me.
John 14:16-17
And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, to be with you forever, even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you.
John 14:26
But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.
Matthew 12:31-32:
31:And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32:Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come. (THE SPIRIT IS OF THE SAME NATURE OF GOD THE FATHER AND THE LORD JESUS CHRIST BECAUSE SIN AND BLASPHEM CAN BE COMMITTED AGAINST THEM)
Bro, don't try to reinvent the wheel about something that the fathers have solved 1700+ years ago.
Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit- Matthew 28:19
Check out this video and let me know your comments.
Do We Baptize in the Name of 3 Persons?
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@BiblicalBinitarian I watched your whole video and can possibly understand why you’re binitarian in the first place. So the reason that Jesus talks more about the Father than the Holy Spirit is simply because of his dependence to the Father. Also I’d like to make a point that the Holy Spirit is also dependent to the Father. Another thing, some of the verses you listed didn’t really disprove the Trinity and some of them actually proved the Trinity because of Jesus talking about 3 things. Some verses in the Bible prove the Trinity too like Matthew 12:31-32 “Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.”
One question for you is that why would the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit be unforgivable? No other sin is like this, but this one. Also why would the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit be unforgivable while blasphemy against the Son is not. This would mean that the Holy Spirit is divine and is God because why would the blasphemy against Him include a great punishment? There is also Acts 5:3-4 that has Peter talking to Ananias saying he lied to the Holy Spirit and then saying he lied to God. If you say that he lied to both of them at the same time that would basically imply the Trinity.
I pray for you to believe in the Holy Spirit because binitarianism is a dangerous heresy. 🙏✝️
Matthew 28:19 does indeed teach this 😂