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Amen. I am a Biblical Binitarian. Now, let me know the verse where we are taught that there are three who are one. There are many about the Father and the Son (John 10:30, 14:10-11, 17:11, 17:21-23, etc.).

Great verses. When I was a Trinitarian minister, I would use these as proof texts. Here are my Binitarian responses. Top Five Responses to Trinity Proof Texts ruclips.net/p/PLYGQCKKPeelrXBvfSVGmdNblbf788L9ZG&feature=shared

Sam is a strong debater. Unfortunately, he now prays to Mary and even attacks his former Trinitarian friends. I assume you are okay with all of that. I am actually concerned about his lack of stability. He needs pastoral care and accountability, not more debates. But if you are eager to see me debate, here are a few debates. Dr. Michael Burgos The Holy Spirit is Not a Distinct Person ruclips.net/user/live39gih_9ocxI?feature=shared Kelly Powers Debate: Is the Holy Spirit a Third Divine Person (Gospel of John) ruclips.net/user/live44WZsjtulak?feature=shared What Kelly Powers Got Wrong in Our Debate ruclips.net/video/BMxUtOfKtIk/видео.htmlfeature=shared The Lord Jesus bless you.

It's not blasphemy to ask Biblical questions, especially when people say that belief in a tradition is mandatory.

Amen, there are definitely two witnesses (John 5:37 and John 8:16-18). Like you, I do not see a third witness. Also, Abraham was told to sacrifice his unique son, Isaac. God has provided Himself a lamb by giving us His one and only Son (John 3:16). That's love.

Hi. Thanks for the respectful and thoughtful post. Almost 30 years ago, I was previously convinced that Gen 1:26 was proof of the Trinity. After studying more and praying, I became a Biblical Binitarian. Here is a video that I did on this topic. Please let me know your comments. ruclips.net/video/gW9zZ9NsUfs/видео.htmlfeature=shared I also did one one Isaiah 48:16 ruclips.net/video/-t9ATS8X-Pg/видео.htmlfeature=shared Thanks and the Lord Jesus bless you.

After you watch the video, let me know your responses. The Lord Jesus bless you.

Thanks for posting. I assume that you have not heard someone make the Biblical case for Binitarianism. Here are two brief videos that do the job. We have more. But let me know your initial thoughts. 7 Reasons Why Paul Was Binitarian ruclips.net/video/iLuAq0XCa5E/видео.htmlfeature=shared Why the Trinity Triangle is Wrong ruclips.net/user/shortsxOx9BhwthCA?feature=shared May the Lord Jesus bless you.

​@@BiblicalBinitarianyou call Jesus Lord, however in the Bible Lord means the whole character of God. The Trinity is quite literally church doctrine and in the Bible in which the father is called God, the son is called God and the holy spirit is called God but distinct from one another all as one true God.

We believe that the Holy Spirit is God because God is the Holy Spirit. Is the Father the Holy Spirit? ruclips.net/video/UW-30WzqUE8/видео.htmlfeature=shared 5 Hard Facts About the Holy Spirit ruclips.net/video/aO8lHZ7FUD8/видео.htmlfeature=shared We also believe the Lord is the Spirit (2 Corinthians 3:14-18). The question now is if there is a third person do the Father and the Son mutually know, love, honor, and indwell Him? Where does it as it does for the relationship of the Father and the Son?

@@BiblicalBinitarian God isn't the holy spirit the holy spirit is God, God comes in a Trinity by your logic if I state I am a teacher that would mean teachers are me, which is false. The verse you put talks about the Trinity as in they are one in unity as all distinct but still God. I don't understand your last question

Good one.

Thanks for posting. As a Binitarian I agree that Jesus is not the only true God, but His Son. Question: What did Jesus mean in John 6:62 when He asked the unbelieving Jews, "... what if you were to see the Son of Man ascending to where he was before?" Seven times in John 6 Jesus is described as coming down from heaven (John 6:33, 6:38, 6:41, 6:42, 6:50, 6:51, 6:58)? The Greek word for where are regularly used to describe a location. The Greek word for before refers to a time prior to the present. Where would Jesus ascend to that He was before? Did Jesus Exist Before His Birth: Part 5 John ruclips.net/video/se-9kDnChuU/видео.htmlfeature=shared The Lord Jesus bless you.

Thanks for posting. I agree that the Trinity is man-made. It is sophisticated proof texting. Do you believe that the Son was always with the Father before coming down from heaven into the world? Here are some videos with challenges on this topic. ruclips.net/video/TC_nTfxfBM0/видео.htmlfeature=shared The videos Paul's writings and John's writings are especially challenging. Let me know your thoughts.

Hello. Thanks for posting. It seems you may not be familiar with what we believe as Biblical Binitarians. We believe that both the Father and the Son have always been and will always be fully divine. They are two fully divine, royal family heads, united as one fully divine spirit. Here is some content that explains more of what we believe. Let us know your particular objections or agreements. Why We Do Not Believe in Two Gods ruclips.net/video/LBiuDxTIHkg/видео.htmlfeature=shared Why the Trinity Triangle is Wrong ruclips.net/user/shortsxOx9BhwthCA?feature=shared 7 Reasons Why Paul Was Binitarian ruclips.net/video/iLuAq0XCa5E/видео.htmlfeature=shared The Lord Jesus bless you.

Great question. The problem is that the term Binitarian has at least three meanings. UCOG is occasionally referred to as Binitarian. However, their belief seems to be more ditheistic. They believe in two divine beings who are one God-family. They say God is a family. When I refer to myself as a Binitarian, I am referring to its most basic meaning of someone who believes in two who are united as one spirit. The root word binus simply means twofold, and unitas means one. UCOG is also Binitarian in that sense. The first difference is that I fully reject God in 2 persons, or one God existing as two separate beings. We agree on the following: 1. Distinct Identites of the Father and the Son. 2. Full Divinity of the Father and the Son. 3. The Eternity of the Father and the Son. 4. The Unity of the Father and the Son as one spirit. We disagree in the following ways: 1. Complex monotheism (multiple persons in the One God). 2. Full Equality of the Father and the Son. 3. The one God is as family of beings. I believe simply that the Father is the one true God, and Jesus is His living likeness who has always been with Him as this Son. They are family as Father and Son, but one God and one Lord. 1 Corinthians 8:6, ESV "yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist." Let me know if you have any questions. The Lord Jeaus bless you.

@@BiblicalBinitarian Thank You for your response. I would say I am leaning toward your view, probably with a few more questions on it. I guess I would still hold a semi arian view which is not to far from what you believe. I believe the Father and son are one spirit. I use to be affiliated with the Jehovahs Wintesses long ago. I saw some flaws with their teachings regarding the son being a spirit creature. The problem is that i saw some of their validity and saw some validity from the trinitarians as well so I just took something in between. I would say I can find validity in Binitarianism, Semi Arianism and Eastern Trinitarianism. However I fully reject western trinitrainism, unitarianism and full blown arianism like the Jws. Just thought I would share. God bless.

Thanks for your honesty. I respect the journey that you are on. Keep pursuing spirit and truth worship.

I miss the old Sam. He is a strong debater. Unfortunately, he now prays to Mary and even attacks his former Trinitarian friends. I am actually concerned about his lack of stability. He needs pastoral care and accountability, not more debates. But if you are eager to see me debate, here are a few debates. Dr. Michael Burgos The Holy Spirit is Not a Distinct Person ruclips.net/user/live39gih_9ocxI?feature=shared Kelly Powers Debate: Is the Holy Spirit a Third Divine Person (Gospel of John) ruclips.net/user/live44WZsjtulak?feature=shared What Kelly Powers Got Wrong in Our Debate ruclips.net/video/BMxUtOfKtIk/видео.htmlfeature=shared The Lord Jesus bless you

Thanks for posting. As a Binitarian I agree that Jesus is not the one true God, but the Son of God. Question: What did Jesus mean in John 6:62 when He asked the unbelieving Jews, "... what if you were to see the Son of Man ascending to where he was before?" Seven times in John 6 Jesus is described as coming down from heaven (John 6:33, 6:38, 6:41, 6:42, 6:50, 6:51, 6:58)? The Greek word for where are regularly used to describe a location. The Greek word for before refers to a time prior to the present. Where would Jesus ascend to that He was before? Did Jesus Exist Before His Birth: Part 5 John ruclips.net/video/se-9kDnChuU/видео.htmlfeature=shared

@BiblicalBinitarian yes of course god the father knows all john 14.28 iohn17.21 he sent him from heaven just like he sent he's angel to Mary ect 1 timothy 2v5-6 should settle u with this it's direct to my opinion I'm not saying listen to me just study gods word me personally I'm not taking god the father out of being god the creator to me its moking god and twisting scripture it confusing people. Again pray and follow christ he's the only way to the father is through him ask god he will show u man will never be perfect always seek ask and follow god .god bless u all

Thanks for posting. I am a Biblical Binitarian. I believe, know, love, obey, and worship the Father and the Son as my two fully divine heads (1 Corinthians 11:3). 1 Corinthians 8:6-7, ESV "yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist. However, not all possess this knowledge." What about you?

@@BiblicalBinitarian That's all good brother but don't blow it. God have only one head as Adam with Eve (before separation) did. As is written; .."and the head of Christ is God" 1Cor.11:3. This is really very tricky situation, but the way you put it doesn't sound right. Yes, in our "flesh" is very hard to understand soma pneumaticos (spiritual body) Jesus have. 1Cor.15:44 As well as how the "legion" of spirits can inhabit a single body? Mark 5:9. Is Father's "body" similar to one Jesus have or completely different. It is very hard to know, but my guess is that it is different because He is a Spirit. Yes, married couple 'compose one head (head of wife is her husband) when they "became one flesh" but still in two bodies... I guess for now I will stick to "worship Father in Spirit and in Truth" as suggested by His Son, and Love the Son by obedience to His commandments (that is the Spirit of the Law)

Sam is a strong debater. Unfortunately, he now prays to Mary and even attacks his former Trinitarian friends. I am actually concerned about his lack of stability. He needs pastoral care and accountability, not more debates. But if you are eager to see me debate, here are a few debates. Dr. Michael Burgos The Holy Spirit is Not a Distinct Person ruclips.net/user/live39gih_9ocxI?feature=shared Kelly Powers Debate: Is the Holy Spirit a Third Divine Person (Gospel of John) ruclips.net/user/live44WZsjtulak?feature=shared What Kelly Powers Got Wrong in Our Debate ruclips.net/video/BMxUtOfKtIk/видео.htmlfeature=shared The Lord Jesus bless you

Thanks for the warning ⚠️. But I am neither representing or misrepresenting the Trinity. If so, please tell me specifically. Or, feel free to ask me what I believe as a Biblical Binitarian. The Lord Jesus bless you.

Binitarianism is an old heresy that denies the Person of the Holy Ghost, sometimes referred to as "contratrinitarianism." Various cults and false teachers advocating this heresy are on the rise, having departed from the faith once delivered.

Hello. Thanks for posting. It seems you may not be familiar with what we believe as Biblical Binitarians. We believe that both the Father and the Son have always been and will always be fully divine. They are two fully divine, royal family heads, united as one fully divine spirit. Here is some content that explains more of what we believe. Let us know your particular objections or agreements. Is Another Helper Another Person? ruclips.net/video/d48WAWE_pvk/видео.htmlfeature=shared Does the Father Give Us His Own Spirit? ruclips.net/video/gYmi6xFkTXM/видео.htmlfeature=shared The Lord Jesus bless you.

Thank you. I will take a look. The Lord Jesus bless you.

Thanks. I fully agree. Little assumptions cause big problems. Are you familiar with what we believe as Biblical Binitarians? We believe that both the Father and the Son have always been and will always be fully divine. They are two fully divine, royal family heads, united as one fully divine spirit. Here is some content that explains more of what we believe. Let us know your particular objections or agreements. 7 Reasons Why Paul Was Binitarian ruclips.net/video/iLuAq0XCa5E/видео.htmlfeature=shared Why the Trinity Triangle is Wrong ruclips.net/user/shortsxOx9BhwthCA?feature=shared May the Lord Jesus bless you.

Hi. Thanks for posting. Almost 30 years ago, one of the verses that convinced me of the Trinity was 1 John 5:7 (KJV). However, I was surprised when I researched further and discovered that it is widely known that this verse is not included in John's original epistle. Even the New King James Version notes: "Only 4 or 5 very late mss. contain these words in Greek." Link www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+john+5&version=NKJV#fen-NKJV-30632b Additionally, Martin Luther did not include it in his translation from the Greek Text to German since it was not in the original editions of Erasmus' critical text. Let me know if you are open to learning more about this topic. May the Lord Jesus bless you. What's Missing in the Trinity Triangle? ruclips.net/user/shortsxOx9BhwthCA?feature=shared

Great points. Thanks for posting. Here is a link to our channel. I hope you find the content substantive and Christ-honoring. youtube.com/@BiblicalBinitarian?feature=shared Here are a few videos that you may enjoy. Let me know your thoughts. Is Jesus the Most High God? ruclips.net/user/shortsc7HzCyzd_m4?feature=share Why We Do Not Believe in Two Gods ruclips.net/video/LBiuDxTIHkg/видео.html 7 Reasons Why Paul Was Binitarian ruclips.net/video/iLuAq0XCa5E/видео.htmlfeature=shared May the Lord Jesus bless you.

Thanks for posting. It seems you may not be familiar with what we believe as Biblical Binitarians. I do not use the term Godhead. We believe that both the Father and the Son have always been and will always be fully divine. They are two fully divine, royal family heads, united as one fully divine spirit. 2r believe the Father is the true and living God and the Lord Jesus is His Son. Here is some content that explains more of what we believe. Let us know your particular objections or agreements. Why We Do Not Believe in Two Gods ruclips.net/video/LBiuDxTIHkg/видео.htmlfeature=shared 7 Reasons Why Paul Was Binitarian ruclips.net/video/iLuAq0XCa5E/видео.htmlfeature=shared Why I Became a Biblical Binitarian: Mario Shepard a.co/d/bM0H9FT May God bless you.

@@BiblicalBinitarian Here's what you said ......They are two fully divine, ******royal family heads******, united as one fully divine spirit. One should not label GOD or Jesus in anyway as it leads to indoctrination. When done so the indoctrination supersedes the belief. Look you call yourself Binitarian verses a Christian. satan has used man to introduce all of the "tarianisms" to create confusion in the doctrine. John 5:23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him. How do you honor the Son by calling yourself a Binitarian? When you don't believe in all the "tarianisms" you are free to point people to the road to salvation. Salvation is what Jesus taught. Look at what has transpired. Christianity Unitanity Binitanity Trinity We are in a fight with satan and I'm just saying watch out. GO back to the basics that Jesus taught.

Hello @JeffDeanTheDeanZone. While the assertion that “being in the image of [God] does not mean that someone is [God]” is factually accurate, the overarching premise of Mario’s statement stands. There is inconsistency in the Unitarian portrayal of the relationship between the Father and Son that does not find textual basis in the sacred scriptures. Regarding your second assertion that his sonship is not unique aside from being first, I must strongly disagree. “In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the Word was God” John reveals to us that “the Word became flesh and dwelt among us” If Jesus is not the Word (who was God) of John 1 who became flesh then who is? The preexistent divine being who was “with God” surely has a distinct sonship from all the others, not only on account of being first, but by “the power of an endless life” forwards and backwards. So if not Jesus what third power will you invent to explain this Word? Are you perhaps more trinitarian than you realize? Regarding the descended and ascended comment there still must be an initial descent when Jesus “came down from heaven”. It would not seem likely that the author is talking about a post-resurrection event in John chapter 3 verse 13 but rather speaking as a generality. This is due to the passage more generally explaining the Christ to Nicodemus. It is the plainest eisegisis to read into this brief scribal note specific descriptions of post resurrection events. As an aside: being manifested is a prerequisite to being known to exist, this means that we could not have known Jesus to be God if he was not manifested as God. Manifestation is a prerequisite, not necessarily a full proof. Being manifested as God, however, is a smoking gun argument. Sending forth as applied to John actually could have some interesting connotations to it. In Jeremiah 1:5 we see how God interacted with the prophet Jeremiah. There being “a man sent from God whose name was John” could be an attempt to reinforce the association of John with Elijah by ascribing other prophetic attributes including notably for our purpose a pre-conception ordination (Jeremiah 1:5). Someone does not need to be a conceived human before God gives them a prophetic or (as I would argue) messianic ordination. So in a way your own example may have preexisted as John is said to be a greater prophet than those before him even “Elijah who is to come”(Matthew 11:14) and we know that Jeremiah preexisted to some extent. Continued…

Additionally, going back to my second paragraph, assuming “the Word was with God” and “the Word became flesh”, the Word clearly went from a heavenly abode to an earthly one by taking on flesh. Knowing that Jesus does the will of his father we can conclude that he did not transition to flesh of his own will but rather because of the will of the father that sent him. From this we can see that Jesus was sent from heaven to earth, validating Mario’s assertion. Also, he could be sent on multiple missions. Think of it as analogus to side quests in video games. He may have been sent from Nazareth to Jerusalem as a side quest to the main story arc of global redemption. He could be sent from the Father to the world and from Nazareth to Jerusalem. One a quest of years another a quest of days, one the story arc another the side quest. Hopefully that makes sense. From going through your comment and trying to see where in the video you are commenting on I noticed you stopped commenting on material around the 12 minute mark. I would encourage you to watch the whole video and consider the sum of the arguments presented. Personally I think Mario is pretty solid on his exegesis. Finally, as a word of advice from one content creator to another, keep video series brief. Making 400 videos on a single playlist generally ends with most of them being low quality in production value, content, or both. Being able to refute quickly and effectively is a valuable skill to have in your toolbox. Another word of advice, if you want to improve audience retention you may wish to subdivide the Trinity Deception playlist into multiple smaller playlists based on subtopic. Thanks for your comment, please continue to engage with the content on this channel.

A follow-up comment would also be appreciated.

​@@christianreader777Solid points. Thanks for posting.

Thanks for posting. It seems you may not be familiar with what we believe as Biblical Binitarians. We believe that both the Father and the Son have always been and will always be fully divine. They are two fully divine, royal family heads, united as one fully divine spirit. Here is some content that explains more of what we believe. Let us know your particular objections or agreements. Why We Do Not Believe in Two Gods ruclips.net/video/LBiuDxTIHkg/видео.htmlfeature=shared Why the Trinity Triangle is Wrong ruclips.net/user/shortsxOx9BhwthCA?feature=shared 7 Reasons Why Paul Was Binitarian ruclips.net/video/iLuAq0XCa5E/видео.htmlfeature=shared

Hello. I have a surprise for you. I am a Biblical Binitarian. I believe in the Father and the Son. They are both fully and eternally divine, united as one divine spirit. You should watch this video, and also some which focus on the specifics of what I believe. 7 Reasons Why Paul Was Binitarian ruclips.net/video/iLuAq0XCa5E/видео.htmlfeature=shared Why the Trinity Triangle is Wrong ruclips.net/user/shortsxOx9BhwthCA?feature=shared May the Lord Jesus bless you.

Glad to hear. The best technical book written on Binitarianism by a non-Binitarian is by Dr. Larry Hurtado. One God, One Lord: Early Christian Devotion and Ancient Jewish Monotheism a.co/d/itYdksw Here are also some interviews where Hurtado made the case for what He believes the New Testament apostles believed. Trinities Podcast: Episode 99 ruclips.net/video/EU1MHtmtUgw/видео.htmlfeature=shared Trinities Podcast: Episode 100 ruclips.net/video/A1JDMNRM4dw/видео.htmlfeature=shared Here is a link to the 22 Theses: drive.google.com/file/d/1OiWcYcRsZb6HHPomeWPQ0PUwTdVfc3nI/view?usp=drivesdk Here is a link to my book. It wrote it to be less technical but substantive. Why I Became a Biblical Binitarian: Mario Shepard a.co/d/bM0H9FT Let me know if this is what you are looking for. Note: Hurtado was a Trinitarian New Testament Scholar who wrote about the Binitarian beliefs of the New Testament. He was not a Binitarian.

Feel free to email me at biblicalbinitarian@gmail.com if you have any questions or insights.

Hello. I believe in the Scriptures, and I practice Proverbs 18:30 "If one gives an answer before he hears, it is his folly and shame." It is easy to hear any view and say, "it must be incorrect because it is yet another view." Many times that's true, but not always. Imagine when Paul entered the synagogues, there existed Saduccees, Pharisees, disciples of John the Baptist, zealots, etc. and here comes Paul. I am glad that not only he preached the Word, noble Bereans gave him a fair hearing while searching the Scriptures. Thanks for reading this much 7 Reasons Why Paul Was Binitarian ruclips.net/video/iLuAq0XCa5E/видео.htmlfeature=shared Why the Trinity Triangle is Wrong ruclips.net/user/shortsxOx9BhwthCA?feature=shared May the Lord Jesus bless you.

Thanks for posting. Here is what's interesting: This RUclips short is actually about examining how someone proves the claims of the trinity from the Scriptures. Example: What verse teaches that the Father and the Son love the Third Person or vice versa? This video asks if there is a verse that explicitly or implicitly teaches, or not at all. More claims can be raised. How does the Bible teach the Trinity? As Binitarians, we hold that it seems to be very explicit about the Father and the Son. Why the Trinity Triangle is Wrong ruclips.net/user/shortsxOx9BhwthCA?feature=shared 7 Reasons Why Paul Was Binitarian ruclips.net/video/iLuAq0XCa5E/видео.htmlfeature=shared

@@BiblicalBinitarian thanks for sharing 👍🏼

The ESV and the NET Bible's are accurate translations. The Berean Literal Bible on Biblehub is also solid.

@@BiblicalBinitarian aren’t these both regarded as heretical translations by many Protestant branches? Just curious for record I’m not trolling you. Friendly conversation

No problem. ESV and NET are widely respected by Protestants. The translators were all Protestants.

@@BiblicalBinitarian oh okay thank you for clarification

Hello. I only know of a few. There are a few Binitarian preachers. There are also Sabbath-keeping and Torah-keeping churches that are binitarian. Some are ditheistic. United Church of God Church of God Seventh Day I am not aligned with any of these churches. Let me know if you have any questions. The Lord Jesus bless you.

@BiblicalBinitarian I was wondering who might those preachers be. I'm not torah observant. Any new covenant preachers who are binitarian? Or other sources for binitarian teachers and fellowships?

Excellent topic. I do not, but I will add to my list. God bless you.

Hi. Thanks for posting. I think you will find this Binitarian video challenging. Let me know your initial thoughts. Is Isaiah 48:16 the Trinity or King Cyrus ruclips.net/video/-t9ATS8X-Pg/видео.htmlfeature=shared

Correct. Many speak about Nicaea without know the facts. As a Binitarian, I hope to inform people more about Constantinople 381 because that was the beginning of the official doctrine of the trinity.

Actually, the opposite. Ask not only what verses do I believe teach which specific claims, but thoughtfully ask, how exactly does this verse teach that (explicitly, implicitly, or not at all).

Here is an example: Claim: There are three persons who mutually know, love, honor, and indwell each other. Verses??

@@BiblicalBinitarian I totally get what you are saying. Here's my thought on that. As far as what it seems what you are implying (but I could totally be wrong) is that you believe in Solo or Sola scripture. By the logic that we need something to be explicitly mentioned in scripture, is simply not scriptural. No where in the bible does the bible say that we need to use the bible alone for every belief/doctrine. We see seeds in scripture for certain doctrines such as this. Like there is one God (Deu. 6:4) but three hypostatsis are seen throughout scripture (Mat. 3:16-17). We see prefigures of the trinity in the Old Testament, then fully revealed in the new. We see God revealing himself more and more throughout scripture at trinitarian, and then formally defined at the council of Nicea as doctrine and dogma. We can also see process like this in the bible itself. I like to use the example of marriage. The Mosaic law says that divorce is permissible (Deu. 24:1-2), then in Malachi God hates divorce (Mal. 2:16), then Jesus institutes it as the sacrament that it is and makes divorce not an option (but permits annulment; Mt. 19:9). Just like this developing doctrine of divorce, so has God revealed more about himself to humanity as the trinitarian God.

@@BiblicalBinitarian Also, I like to ask the deeper questions about the bible. Like "I use the bible alone," okay, then where did the bible come from? What came before the bible? Who or what authority put the bible together? If We look into history we can see it was Pope Damascus at the council of Rome that dogmatized the first ever formal canon of the church in 382, and later councils approved/ratified the same canon. Christ started this Church in Matthew 16, and if this church that was the disciples of the apostles, and disciples of the apostles disciples, this church was the closest to the original teachings of Christ, and we can see clearly in the first lets say 2 centuries of the church, that the early church did believe in the trinity. Please always know I always have a smile on my face as I type this out. I love these types of conversations and I love seeing the other side of things. And I am a student and always keep that mindset, Im always open to learning more and seeing the other side 😄

Sure. Let me know your objections.

Yes. I am making the case that the spirit is not a third person, but God in-person. I believe the Father and the Son perfectly share one divine spirit. The spirit is the spirit of the Father and the spirit of the Son. God is Holy Spirit, and the Lord is the Spirit. They are used interchangeably.

Hi. I am not familiar with any in Iowa.