Yeah I was searching all my other open windows for the annoying one playing that music 😅 Also off topic but how far is casual dress going to go? I was just watching a paleontologist speaking in sweats and t-shirt In a few years people are going to be hosting news channels sitting on the john, in their underwear or bathrobes I imagine lol
Why do all American youtubers have to have LOUD aggravating music. I've missed out on many wonderful videos because of this. Such a shame. Please know we are here for what you are saying. That's enough.
I'm an American and I agree with you, the audio is terrible in this production. Seems it's to keep your attention on the conversation during the hard rock.
The term "It doesn't make an iota's worth of difference" comes from the Arian/Trinitarian controversy. Trinitarians believe that God the Son was of the same nature as the God the Father. Arians believed that God the Son was of "like nature" with God the Father. The Greek word for "same nature" is "homousious" and the word for "like nature" was "homoiusious." The only difference was the letter "i" - in Greek, "iota." Many in society didn't see the difference.
And the pharoahs were called "son of God" and considered themselves God, Son of God, and with the spirit of God. You're so confused. Jesus was Pharoah and wanted to free Hebrews from slavery. The Hebrews just. Didn't. Get. It.
Nicea is now Iznik, west of Istanbul, it's a great place to visit. It still has it's town walls and aquaduct. A small town with very friendly locals and not overrun by tourists.
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The video is good and informative, but the background music kills it for me. You’ve got hyped up music that sounds like it’s primed for a sports package video, not a historical mini documentary. Completely takes one out of the video
Don’t you find it ironic to say that “the council did not decide on codification of the Bible” and 2 minutes later proceed to say that “the council labeled the alternative as heresy, ordered ever other version burned and owners to be put to death”. Is that not a contradiction?
No books were burned that we know of, doesn't mean it didn't happen. Remember "history" is "HIS STORY" which comes from the same people who have been controlling the world since the start of our civilization. They are controlled by Lucifer and will stop at nothing to make sure that nothing gets in the way of their intended purpose. If you see it on TV it's lies, if it's taught in schools, it will be taught to make sure that it meets the criteria for their agenda. There's a reason why medical doctors don't have more than a single day of classes on health and nutrition, because if we were healthy they wouldn't make any money off selling pills or surgeries. Follow the money. I believe in God but I don't trust religions. I don't know what to believe, but I'm on a mission to figure out what is real about God. Look how many people are fighting over their differences on views of religions. Divide and conquer, that's all religion appears to be good for.
The monumental work “History of the Byzantine Empire: Vol. 1: Constantine to the Crusades” and “History of the Byzantine Empire: Vol. 2: From the Crusades to the Fall of the Empire”, of Alexander Alexandrovich Vasiliev (an expert Byzantinist), is considered one of the best accounts on the Greek legacy of Byzantine history and culture. Truly, masterpieces.
This was surprisingly well researched and nuanced I’m a biblical scholar and I was waiting for something much much worse than this but it is generally quite well seen and delivered
That's because he sugar coated all the killings and what really happened to so many people for not believing what they decided was scriptures out of the 24 thousand,, no two are identical by the way, you would know as some one study them
@@anthonycarmine9953 You should really do some of your own research into this, you’d see that it had nothing to do with the canonization of scripture (which books should be included or excluded). The council was called to address the Arianism heresy, stop getting your historical knowledge from Dan Brown novels.
You know what I love in videos about history and important events? Loud guitar music and some dude standing in a room, looking straight at me like I wore a thong to the gym.
Thank You for this. I have often heard the idea that the Council of Nicaea deternmined what Books would become Canon so this is insightful. On the flip side the "music" of this video is horrible, too loud, and distracting (my opinion). Still, I Appreciate you Clarifying this topic
Was the councils of hippo and Carthage in North Africa that ratified the New Testament books. However, this wasn't an ecumenical council but rather a local one. The standard canon was handed down through the tradition of the church, which was unwritten practice. Some churches had slight variants in their canons.
Well he lied a few times, especially at 7:32. Not sure why you're so excited about it. Try Ready To Harvest or Dr. Jordan B Cooper if you want honesty about Christianity. And if you want the hidden truths nobody will say, well... Not on this website
Thank you! Very interesting and educational. Sad that so much of Christian churchism as well as other religions, ends up being about power and control, instead of spirituality.
When Jesus had been baptized, he immediately rose from the water and a voice was heard from the heavens, which said: "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. " Who is who? God speaks from heaven to God standing on the ground? Mikael Lyngvig.
How is it possible that so many people doesn't even put questions about the quality of the Bible ?? Do you guys know from what books was the Bible written? It was written from copies of another copies and again from another copies...... Do you really believe the authenticity of those copies ?? Are we sure that nothing's been changed?? It is written in about 800-900 years, so many different authors, so many contradictions in the Bible .... Don't you guys see all this ?? For me personally I think that the most of people think that someone will forgive them at some point , but the truth is that unfortunately other .... At least try to read other gospel about Jesus and his teachings, not just the Bible . Maybe you will get also what Jesus teachings are about.... He's teaching about the mind .... About how to change ur mindset.... Anyway the opinions are all different so.... I wish you all good luck ❤
@@uchennanwogu2142 Jesus and the Bible CONSTANTLY refer to Him as "the Son of God" "who thought it NOT ROBBERY TO BE EQUAL TO GOD" making Him divine. He also CONSTANTLY was talking about His "Father" cementing the idea that they are TWO DIFFERENT BEINGS just as I and MY father are two distinct different beings.
@@LightForger How can you believe in the trinity?? Revelation 1:1 A revelation by Jesus Christ, which [God] gave him, to show his slaves.. Revelation 1:6 and he made us to be a kingdom, priests to his [God and Father]-yes, to him be the glory and the might forever. Amen. Can't even get through the first chapter of Revelation . Before this false pagan trinity teaching crumbles... Hallelujah-Praise Jah you people.
@@redredmane5544 please tell me what you are talking about? Jah, Yah, YHWH-YAHWEH , Jehovah is the personal name of Almighty God the Father Creator of the Universe The name likely means (He causes to become) Meaning He becomes or can do- anything to accomplish his will.. Are you a Bible reader? You don't know this? Hallelujah-Praise Jah you people.
Independent board game publisher Hollandspiele just put out a new game called Nicaea about this very topic! It does a great job modeling the political opportunism at the heart if the First Nicene Council's theological debates. Worth noting that the production value may not be what you'd expect from a game at its price point, but it's worth it for the gameplay and to support a great independent publisher.
Well to my mind you were doing reasonably ok, but then at 7:35 you come out with an entirely unrequired "didn't want their holy day to be beholden to a Jewish holiday, because, you know, anti_semitism" The context is about how Christians determine the date for Easter, and has absolutely nothing to do with anti-semitism. How you introduce anti-semitism into the discussion, in this context, is completely perplexing. Sorry, I gave up on your video here and moved on.
The elephant in the room at the council is that none of these people were genuinely realized souls. They were speculators and they were very wrong. What a joke.
SO .... WHAT YOU'RE SAYING EXTREMELY CLEARLY AND LOUD IS, the notion that "Jesus is a God, is in fact, man-made and the product of a meeting by religious minded MEN and then co-signed by the state .... and it was determined over 300 years after the supposed death and resurrection of "JESUS" ...... Then the "Bible" was revised for over 800 MORE years for a total of OVER 1100 years ..... GOT IT.
It's nice to be able to deliver using critiquing not insulting or flattery for sure. But nobody has to respect the ideology. It's says things like Israel need only ask and smash us like pottery, crush us with a rod of iron and "inherit" all our lands. Nah man.. it's arrogant as hell to tell people we have to respect talking about genociding us and stealing everything we own. Or when Yahweh says he'll gather EVERY nation to Jerusalem and have their houses sacked and women raped. (12 is marriage age according to him) Absolutely nobody has to "respect" that. I won't be told to respect global gang rape of women and potentially 12 yr Olds.
Shouldn't he be critical of his own church? That star is the one star of Venus , it has nothing to do with Judaism. Anyway, you have the divine spark and you should always trust yourself first.
Been studying this council since I was 16, always found it interesting. I do have my own opinions and beliefs on what the council is responsible for with the ancient Egyptians but I’ll be mindful/respectful to peoples belief.
_For a Father to witness the denial, torture and death of His own son is The Greatest of Sacrifice he can make. Ask any Father here on Earth. For a Son to Rise up in Freedom & Love and Choose to make a sacrifice this great is a Father's greatest honor & a son's greatest glory._ _____________________________ Constantine was No Christian. Constantine and his clever politicking while passing "laws" against the primary teachings of Christ just as Paul and Christ emphatically warned the new Christian church did so to stop the fighting & persecution. He worshiped Pluto and Saturn yet was the "Christian (???)" emperor who passed new Views & teachings thus adopted "law". _"Worship our way or be brutally persecuted and tortured; even burned alive!"_ A year after The First Council of Nicaea Constantine had his wife and son murdered. Nice guy. It was Constantine who passed a law voted by various bishops; many involved in mystic views - that Christ and Elohim & the Spirit were one single sentient being. Ironic that this view has a very deep pagan Greek polytheistic origin. Prior to the The First Council of Nicaea, The "Aryan" view was the accepted view for hundreds of years. Oh and btw when Constantine decided to become baptized _(on his death bed because that way he believed he would not be held accountable for his many past sins);_ The Bishop who baptized him was Aryan. The original Christian founders were Jews and they repeatedly admonished future generations of the "last days" to "get out of Babylon (the great)" because we are *in* Babylon the great aka False teachings or the doctrines of men. Then move on to Easter and Sunday and Saturday, Hell Fire etc - just some of many pagan doctrines that Paul warned would creep into the Church. And tell me why was John's first vision regarding the degradation of the Church and it's teachings? Why would God judge the Church so harshly if innocent? Why are there page after page of denunciations regarding the state of the Church and teachings found w/i the words spoken by Elohim Himself then recorded by the likes of Isiah or Ezekiel or Daniel and again for this very hour or generation? There are 3 full pages side by side in Ezekiel alone of how poorly the average pastor and self proclaimed prophet would behave in this very hour and all the false teachings therein. The Trinity is the oldest pagan doctrine around, as old as Nimrod. And All the prophets in unison say that 90% of the pastors today will be teaching false doctrine. John echos this in his vision on the Isl of patmos. The church is corrupt. "The Reformation" did reform but failed to restore the simple purity of the redemptive message via the Christ through the prophets. Read the first 3 denunciations of the church. At the end of all three - _Elohim speaks in threes for emphasis_ - it states (in a nutshell) that the one who clearly sees the sins of the Church will be written in the book of life. Jesus first created and Beloved son of Elohim; our true Risen King currently Sits at the Right hand of Himself? Yeshua is the first created being "first son" within our reality as we understand it. Elohim then created all the angels. Yeshua/Jesus is the very seed of Creation Himself. (Read the first few chapters of Hebrews - use a good translation - then read the Septuagint - that is if you are brave enough to take the red pill.). He is the only angelic being able to create. All things (w/i our reality) are created by Him, through Him and for Him. He holds all the Adamic and Angelic DNA. There exist 12 distinct types; Jesus being the Archetype. This is exactly how Jesus was able to be born of the tribe of Judah when Mary was not. Yeshua used the living spirit and power of Elohim to create with Elohim's approval and authority. Jesus was full man/human when He walked the Earth thus in his success proved Satan's claims as false. He facilitated His father's life sustaining spirit to aid Him - to Heal others etc. He is the first fruit of many (to come). Peter, John, Paul were able to access Elohim's spirit as well with the same power later but not until after Jesus finished His commission. To quote Tozer in a nutshell "The Trinity; the greatest Mystery never contested"
I found myself nodding in agreement with the clear and well-done presentation, untangling the myth from the history of the Council of Nicaea. However, I started cackling like a lunatic at comparing Comptus to Computo from the Legion of Superheroes and Adventure comics. That's some 12th-level nerd-flex, there. Well done, sir. Well done.
The first council picking what books are in the Bible was the 382 Council of Rome. Then the 393 Synod of Hippo, 397 Council of Carthage, 1445 Encyclical Council of Florence and then the 1563 Council of Trent. Each one had the same books in them and included the Deuterocanonical books.
So far as I know, only Orthodoxy follows the agreed upon conclusions of the 7 councils. Every other body either ignores (see all protestants) or adds (hello, Rome!) what suits them personally.
@@GopnikVlad The Orthodox do not have the authority to call an Ecumenical Council. They need the pope or an emperor crowned by the pope. That’s why we have more councils, because we have someone with the authority to call one.
The fact that east and west still don't agree on inclusion or exclusion of books speaks volumes. Same can be said of Protestant and Catholic beliefs about which books should be included. I am finding myself back where I started with the bible decades ago. The word without the confusion of religious overlay and belief from authoritarianism. The first councils of the fourth and fifth centuries were as political as they were theological. The church by then, even, seemed to have gone in a direction opposite of what the gospels appear to teach. The bishops arguing and discussing amongst themselves regarding canon and non-canon and positions of authority answerable to this faction or that reminds me of Jesus overhearing his disciples discussing what places of authority they would occupy in the Kingdom. A rebuke was swift in the offing. The church today even, needs a swift rebuke from higher up. I truly believe certain books were eliminated, suppressed, forced out, because the theology was at odds with the original books of the first century. I sometimes wonder at the reasons why certain books in the bible were included. The gospel of John or Revelation, for example, were once disputed for the imagery or the authenticity of depiction and theology. The pseudo-Pauline books written after Paul's death, too, seem to have a different tone to them than the Pauline books we know were written by Paul, like Romans, for example.
Writing this as I go along in the video. 1. They didn't wear pointy hats yet (that didn't come till the 11th century). 2. Constantine didn't become a baptized Christian until about a week before his death, so . . . 3. Even though he reposed as a Christian, and even though he is canonized, the first truly devout Christian Emperor is Theodosius. 4. The bishop of Rome was not yet referred to even affectionately as "Pope," although the bishop of Alexandria already was. 5. Although parts of the canon of scripture were agreed to early on (like the four gospels), notably Athanasius, who was a deacon at the 1st council, gave us the first complete NT list. 6. The Second Oecumenical Council (381 AD) DID give us the first Christian canon of scripture, including the OT, the non-canonical books (sometimes called the deuterocanonical books) and the NT that we know today. 7. Constantine indeed called for a council to be held, but it was not because he took the side against Arius in the beginning. On the contrary, Constantine was generally closer to the Arian bishops at the start of the council. 8. St. Nicholas slapped Arius on the mouth. He didn't deck him. Iconography of the event predates the first known written account, so it is certainly older than the written account. 9. The choice of Pascha or Easter had nothing to do with antisemitism (a common misconception). It is because Christ rose from the dead following Passover. Thus, they decreed that the Day of Resurrection should also always be celebrated after the Jewish Passover. This isn't antisemitism, this is honoring the lineage of Christianity. 10. The west no longer follows the proscription of not having the day of celebration on Passover, if memory serves me. 11. The council of Nicea lasted for about a year. Constantine was occasionally in attendance, but usually not. He spoke Latin, and the council was held in Greek. When he did attend, Bishop Hosios of Spain translated for him. Because he was not a Christian (yet), though his mother was, he could make no decisions or render no opinions about the dogma of the Church. His enforcement of the banishment of Arians had more to do with keeping civic peace: the life of Athanasius shows just how dangerous things got for a bit. To say that the Emperor at this time enforced dogma is inaccurate (though later Emperors would certainly attempt to do so, albeit unsuccessfully in the long term). 12. The Emperor did not rule over theology. This is a false narrative. Later emperors participated in the life of the Church, and more than one received censure and rebuke from Church figures over various things. 13. Constantine did not formally convert after his dream. He took a deep interest in the Church, but his conversion didn't take place till the end of his life. 14. The Edict of Milan gave freedom to all religions-even Arianism, which lasted until (if memory serves me) the seventh century. This again shows that the exile of Arians was civic more than dogmatic on Constantine's part. 15. The Hagia Sophia would not be built for centuries after Constantine. It had nothing to do with the Edict of Milan directly. 16. Constantine DID NOT oversee the First Council. He called for it, but he had no authority in it. He was honored by the bishops attending, nothing more. 17. Ah, sorry for spoiling the video: I didn't know you were going to mention Constantine's baptism. 18. The First Council did not establish a formal link between Church and State. There aren't even any official acts of the Council of Nicea (which makes sense, since they were coming out of the age of persecution and were likely quite secretive), so to say that it did establish such a link without the benefit of evidence is pure speculation, which falls apart upon later inspection of councils. All we have is the first part of the creed and the letters of bishops about the council to inform us about what transpired there. 19. Constantine did care about Christianity and Christian theology. He did not like to see the bishops argue over it. He took enough interest to sponsor them all for a year in Nicea (he put his money where his mouth was), plus he built churches, including the first version (not the present version) of St. Peter's in Rome-though not Hagia Sophia. 20. Eusebius of Nicomedia (not to be confused with Eusebius of Caesarea, the Church historian, who was also present at the First Council) was a repentant Arian (i.e., back in the Orthodox party) at the time he baptized Constantine. 21. St. Athanasius was certainly a force to be reckoned with in his life; but at the time of the Council, he was a deacon, I believe, under Bishop Alexander of Alexandria, who was the presiding Bishop at the Council. 22. The truth of the Council of Nicea isn't messed up at all, even if modern reporting on it is. It was a complete blessing for the Church and for the world. To those complaining about the background music: there is a new setting you can toggle in RUclips for sound balancing. Try it both ways to see which one sounds better.
Who knew the other Abrahamic religions believe the only true god is the father. Islam and Judaism believes theres one god and no other persons! You must wonder why Most of Christianity is the only anomaly between the 3 Abrahamic religions? Does that mean the Jews in the old testament were wrong this whole time believing for only one god? Lol
@@paulploy6830 But those tools are one in accord and is not one person its the same as 1 Corinthians 3:6-11 He who plants and he who waters are one, and each will receive his wages according to his labor. For we are God's fellow workers. You are God's field, God's building. These are two people referring to 2 of the apostles are you going to say that they are one in a literal sense? Or are they one because they are doing the same task at hand? If 2 farmers have 2 different jobs but their job is to grow a plant they are one in accord. Not one in person
The fact that believers are promised to be "heirs of God and joint-heirs with Christ" kind of confers a degree of legitimacy to Arianism. If a believer is a joint-heir with Christ, that implies very strongly that Christ is an heir of God, and like any heir, is subordinate to the heir-giver. The Apostles, according to Peter, had a more sure word of prophecy (2 Peter 1:19). But all we have from them is a set of rather randomly preserved set of correspondences (letters). By the time of the Nicean Council, all prophecy had fled, and the only thing left was the philosophies of men, mingled with scripture. So when Peter said "that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation," private interpretation was all they had left.
Good coverage. It is interesting to note that Arianism is very similar to Islam in it's belief of God and Jesus. Christianity and Islam have very similar history and beliefs (including their respect for Jesus) but the biggest difference is that Christians are trinitarians and Muslims are unitarians believing in only 1 indivisible god with Jesus being one of his major prophets.
Correction on Easter. They didn't change the date of Easter. They changed the celebration of the Resurrection from occurring at Passover to occurring at Easter. Easter was already a Roman holiday to celebrate the goddess of fertility Ishtar, this is why its associated with bunnies. What they changed was that it would be the celebration of the resurrection instead of Ishtar, and instead of celebrating that at Passover
No, this is not true. Debate over the date to celebrate the resurrection first arose in the time of Polycarp and Victor I of Rome. Apparently, the apostle John had taught his disciples in Asia Minor to worship on Nisan 14th according to the Jewish calendar while Paul and Peter had instructed the Roman Christians to celebrate on the rotating date now used so it would always fall on a Sunday. Romans did not worship Ishtar. Ishtar was a Mesopotamian goddess. The closest approximation in Rome would have been Venus. The name "easter" is actual an English problem that had nothing to do with the Romans. Proto-Germanic speakers had a month named after the goddess Ēostre which matched up with the rotating dates of the resurrection celebration, thus the name "Easter" in English.
@@DestinyAwaitsChannel No writing attributed to Peter or Paul teaches this, but it was considered part of apostolic tradition fairly early on. Since Peter and Paul were regarded as the founders of the Roman church, it is reasonable to assume they were the originators, although the claim could be disputed and is likely more nuanced than this. Eusebius’ Church History - Book 5, chapters 23-24, discusses the controversy in detail. I'd provide you a link, but RUclips likes to delete comments with links. Paste the reference in your browser, and you should be able to find the text.
@@playasurf1000 Of course you are right because English was not even a language when the Nicea synod took place. In fact was not even a language for about 1200 years after it took place.
It seems like the 'church' has screwed around so much with their history that it is impossible to know with certainty what in the world happened. The anonymity of the gospels being attributed by the 'church' to specific people and the unquestioning adherence to that by nearly everyone tells you just how optional and unnecessary 'truth' is.
10:15 Need proof for the claim that Christians were forbidden and persecuted in a targeted and wide spread way by the Roman Empire, which seems to be the insinuation. Yes I am aware of the Wikipedia article on the topic of Christian persecution, but the time period in question there cited sporadic and localized incidents, such as Nero. But the claim that all Christians were forbidden and persecuted sustaining over many years and systematically by the Roman empire before Constantine is a dubious one.
The fact that the church thought that the Son could not be a creation of God due to John Chapter 1v1 is totally unreasonable. The word (or Son) was in the beginning. The beginning of what? God is eternal and had no beginning. The book of Revelation, written by the same apostle John in chapter 3 and verse 14 tells us that the Son (Identified as then faithful and true witness) was the beginning of creation BY God. So, the beginning mentioned in John 1;1 is the beginning of creation. The son is quite obviously the firstborn (brought forth, created) of all creation. The first thing made by the Father. Everything makes sense in the koine Greek when we realize that the Son is created. Divine yes, but created.
Yes, this is and was obvious. The council of Nicaea was likely political theatrics and the result was determined well before its conclusion. Constatine's Church clearly had two main objectives; 1) differentiate Christianity and Judaism and 2) incorporate more Greek philosophy into scripture. The cosubstantiation of Jesus and the Trinity accomplishes both of these goals, in spite of direct scripture. To Constantine and radical Greek bishops, Ariansim was simply too Jewish to be considered uniquely Roman.
@@Chadwick-k7x interesting comment. It does seem that the church of the third/fourth century was doing everything possible to free itself of being a sect of judaism. To the extent of corrupting the very nature of God.
The premise that the Gospel of John promotes the teaching that the Son of God is equal to God is erroneous even if you read John 1:1 as saying that the Son was God, the translation of which is disputed. Verses later on in chapter 1 clarify the Son's position in relation to the Father. Arianism was opposed to a much more ancient idea of a trinity, which descended from ancient religions not related to the Judeo-Christian tradition.
Religion is not Faith. Religion is organized rules created by men in order to worship and reach the divine. Faith is having belief in something you can't see or touch. As for the second comment I live in Canada and we have more Muslims than Christians. Believing in God and Jesus as the Son of God and the Son of Man isn't superstition. It's plain truth. The only place the Church is going is with Jesus when the rapture of the Church occurs. Don't curse and throw out what you clearly lack understanding in.
@@Zantetsuken94 The first Jewish revolt, mithra & the reason why Constantine changed his surname to flavius gives you a better understanding of the council of Nicea. An as a Muslim I believe Jesus peace be upon is a prophet to the lost sheep of Israel. Not the begotten sun of god that's blasphemy!!!!
@@myisden2954 Speaking like a true dictator. Wanting to remove people from freedom to believe in God. Soon, I hope you find that both science and a conscious source (Supreme intellect) responsible for reality go hand in hand.
Just saw this. Excellent work. Is there an app to remove the background? On second thought, the chaotic distraction seems to fit the narrative and overall gist of the presentation. Nicely done.
There was no Orthodox. The council itself was a search for Orthodoxy. The gospel of John just says that Jesus was with God from the beginning. That does not specifically state that Jesus is eternal, but that Jesus was with God from the beginning. It could be the beginning of the creation of Earth.
Jesus says the Father and I are one. Jesus says that everything the Father has He gives to the Son. Jesus says before abraham was I Am. I Am was yahwehs self-designation. There are plenty of texts showing Jesus' equality with the Father.
Iznik (formerly Nicaea) is a relaxed agricultural town with some impressive Byzantine ruins that date from the 13th century when Constantinople was overrun by the Latins. Word has it that the pope will visit it this year. This will be fun, and a chance for us Arians to take up the argument again, just a few centuries later. P.S. schism: Please check your pronunciation. Think the first syllable of "scissors."
Are you very sure that the trinity was established well in the Christian church before and the Christians were shocked to know that Arian was teaching differently? 🤔🤔 Bcz Nowhere in the bible we could find the word Trinity. It seems that Constantine was the one who introduced Trinity
Yes he did because he himself was a pegan believer he believed in Sol Inctivus .. Apollo and all the pegan God's.. then when he saw the rise of Christianity he saw the chance to unify both beliefs. You can't tell ppl tht a person tht was once a pegan believer who had power to choose wht is to be worshiped had no bias
The word trinity isn’t in the bible you are correct but throughout both old and New Testament there is proper doctrine proving that God Is one being but 3 distinct persons known as God the Father who is fully God but isn’t The Son or the Holy Spirit, God The Son who is Fully God but isn’t God the Father or The Holy Spirit. And the Holy Spirit who is Fully God But also isn’t God the Father or God the Son. Yet they are the Same God but different Persons.
@@nathanyoung2829 yeah verses that are unaccounted for that the church decided to put in the bible and rule out any gospel that didn't fit their criteria. Like the gospel of Philip or Mary Magdalene ..why?
@@nathanyoung2829trinity does not make any logical sense. Which is why people who spout it always reverts to the theory as “mystery” or “cant be explained”. The mental gymnastic is insane. Unitarian is simple and makes sense. It’s quite blasphemous to think God the creator has others equal to him. Jesus was super clear in saying that he’s not good but only God is.
When did the Catholics decide on their cannon and were arguments for this cannon made at the Council of Nicea? If so, then it’s not a myth that canonization was discussed at the Council of Nicea.
No, arguments about the Canon were not made at Nicea, it was merely about whether Jesus was God or just a secondary creator of the Universe. Besides, the Gospels were already settled way before Constantine was born.
Fun facts: The U.S. Statue of Liberty was modeled after the Colossus of Rhodes. The Colossus of Rhodes was a statue of the Greek Sun God Helios, which was also the Roman god Sol. Therefore the Statue of Liberty looks suspiciously like the Sun God Helios You might also be familiar with helium, which is what balloons are filled with that float. The Sun is around 30% helium. Helium was also named after Helios, the Sun God. The Suns solar flares and solar rays are of course, named after Sol.
Arian was an African bishop of Serapis the Christ from Libya and they were all arguing over what this creature was. Jesus was technically incarnated with the invention of the letter J. And that doesn't happen for a couple of hundred of years after the Council on Nicaea.
@@cutebutsadisticable Religion is just humanity's first attempt at controlling people. It's more primitive than organized government, but it still works (unfortunately.)
@@theeclectic2919 blech talk about crude over generalizations. The truth is what you're asking is tantamount to saying "why have any culture?" Since Religion is a function of Culture whereby the collectives of a society venerate the ideals and model of reality that motivate them unto certain ends. Religion is an important function of anthropic reality. Liminality and social psychology all find their drives originated within culture and religion.
The Universe is infinite, no beginning, no end, no Big Bang, no centre, no time, unknowable. The brain of God if you will. And we are an essential part of it with a brain that is a microcosm of the infinite. This truth supersedes everything on this planet.
The music really takes away from the presentation. I'm very excited about the content but I literally am turning this video off and haven't made it through a quarter of the video because it's so distracting. The music doesn't compliment the context or content.
It's interesting that all these Videos about this topic never says anything about what The Creator of all thing says. When everyone realizes that The Creator has no problem letting his creation know exactly what he wants. Man only adds confusion and division. This video was great showing how even then man's perception of Christ caused death, division and confusion back then and it hasn't changed to this day.
At the time stamp 6:34 and slightly before it, you'll see a quote that is being read off by the presenter. If you glance at the name associated with said quote, you'll see an editing error. First one I've ever seen in all the years that I've watched Grunge. For that, I applaud you fine folks on an outstanding run, WELL DONE!!!
Council of Laodicea Canon 29 Christians must not judaize by resting on the Sabbath, but must work on that day, rather honouring the Lord's Day; and, if they can, resting then as Christians. But if any shall be found to be judaizers, let them be anathema from Christ.
Thank you for the explanation of Arianism. The Vandals of North Africa (along with the Alans who went with them) were Arians, and so the later fights between the Eastern Roman Empire and the Vandals were tinged with religions dispute of Trinitarians vs Arians.
Notice the 'mitres' the bishops are all wearing? what is their origin? They were exactly the same as the head dresses worn by the priests of Dagon the 'Fish god' ( see 'the pagan origin of the mitre' in google). Harldy fitting for 'Christian' bishops to wear! Just an outward expression of the inward pagan amagamation of beliefs that the council of Nicea introduced to a corrupting church!
The paintings are from centuries after the council. At the council of Nicea miters did not yet exist. We do not see a miter like headdress for bishops before the 11th century, the first small ones probably influenced by the crown of the Byzantine emperor. That is 2000 years after this so called fish God. There is no connection what so ever. This fish god story was invented by a guy in the 19th century with a very bad grasp of history and all he wrote has long been debunked by serious historians.
@@ladydustin7811 Thanks, very informative! Poin taken. However. Please tell me how you feel about men of God wearing elaborate robes e.t.? Can you equate that with all we real about the early Christians. ( I will do more research as to several pagan apendages depicted on church robes. I do know for sure that the 'Chi Rho ( Jesus enitials in Latin) were used by pagan Constantine and adorned to the shields of his warrioirs at the battle of Malvern gate in Rome. It also was displayed on banners that went to areas of the battle to give it more power therre! Christian? I hardly think so!
And please enlighten us who are you exactly to tell them what is a 'Harldy fitting for 'Christian' bishops to wear!' because these people were the the Church fathers or they knew, taught by the very early Church fathers who were taught by Church fathers who met St Paul.
@@user-tg3tj2nq6v I am not trying to be disrespectful! But I am trying to be respectful to the Lord Jesus who wore a simple garment. So much so that the only way the soldiours would have identified him was by the kiss of Judas! Appart from that he looked just like his disciples who wore ordinary everyday clothes! It was the scribes and Pharisees who wore DISTICTIVE garb! (Matt 23:5) As for The 'church fathers knowing Paul'. Sorry but Paul died in 65AD in Rome. The first 'church father' was Polycarp who did know John who was a very old man in 100AD. Polycarp was the first church father. Anyway its not 'knowing' another mere human that means anything, its following Christ's example. He was humble and lowly. Isa 53 says of him " when we shall see him there is no beauty that we shall desire him" ( verse 2). Unlike Jesus, clerics down through the ages have loved to wear sumptuos robes and garments, very expensive. |Purple & gold with large mitre hats e.t.c. This means nothing to God who looks on the heart & NOT the outward apperance! Surely you agree?
At 8:40 - Melitius of Lycopolis was not "insubordinate" to the bishop of Alexandria. There was no heirarchy above the local church before Nicaea created the Pentarchy, when the Roman State the Bishop of Alexandira over the bishops of Egypt. Melitius was part of the controversy with Arius, because in the previous generation, Peter unilaterally excommunicated Arius when he was young as a way of attacking Melitius for siding with the Novatian "rebaptizers" after Cyprian and the Romans started forging doctrines around the idea of denying Christ under persecution and then asking for forgiveness when the persecution ended. Novatus said the Church did not have authority to readmit those who denied Christ publicly, but the sect eventually settled on readmittance if the people were rebaptized, because it was literally the 1st generation after child baptism became a thing, and they were essentually saying they weren't really born again. Cyprian and the bishop of Rome contested this as a heresy more to preserve Cyrpians own office, becaue he fled from Carthage when the persecution started, and then tried to make up rules of readmittance, claiming that the Roman Catholic "mother church" baptism was always efficacious. He even added the term "again" to John 3:5 to claim that one is "born again of water and the spirit," to make the case, which Jerome added to the Latin Vulgate, all to prop up the false doctrine of baptismal regeneration. Melitius and many others sided with Novatus, who was elected by the elders of Rome to be the next bishop, while his rival who sided with Cyprian was elected by popular vote, many of whom had relatives that denied Christ that they wanted readmitted into the Church, while Novatus was saying this was not permitted. The bishop of Alexandira, (Dionysus I believe) also fled when persecution started, so he naturally sided with Cyprian, leading to his successor Peter condeming Melitius for taking the opposite stance. This claim was based on the idea of the regional Synod at Carthage being authoritative over the churches of Egypt, rather than the bishop of Alexandria, who attended the conference. But the Alexandrian bishops were always pushing for more power, which led to them eventually beating the bishop of Constantinople to death when someone from a rival sect was elected. This led to the Council of Carthage, which was largely about putting Alexandria in its palce. The early church was a train wreck folks. There was nothing authoritative in the ecumenical councils. Stand under the Word of God. Nothing more.
The 'holy trinity' may well be a coded political message. Begin with the concept of primogeniture, where the eldest son inherits the entire estate when his father dies. Project this to rules of royal succession: The current king is legitimate because he is the first born son of the 'holy ghost', or what is now the ghost of the previous king. The current king's first born son is the legitimate heir to the throne, thus 'the father, the son, and the holy ghost'. Since royal successions were often messy, this was coded in religious terms. A lot of people that 'never understood' the religious doctrine might have assimilated the intended secular meaning without even realizing it.
Wonderful explanation. Many people completely overlooked the fact, that the Bible was written by men, thinking it's a book it fell out of the sky. I was raised a Christian, however I wasn't brainswashed i loved to investigate and I love history. Reading the origins of Christianity made me realize that's it's nothing but words to control the masses
According to the Catholic Encyclopedia, the Catholic Church changed the baptismal formula from "in the name of Jesus Christ" to "in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit" in the second century. The Catholic Church considers Trinitarian baptisms to be valid, and while other baptismal formulas are acceptable, they must have been performed by a church or person who believes in the Trinity.
One of the most topics I believe is missed was they didn't know where to place their capital of the faith. Emperor Hadrian having hated Jews so much had their cities and history erased. Constantine's mother was dispatched to find Jerusalem and the place of the true cross. At the time "Jerusalem" was a village, home to Asiatic Jewish tribes. Coincidently the area was found to be a holy site and became a power base for Constantine in the most ideal location. What if it wasn't the true Jerusalem though?
Conjecture either you are ignorant of history or deliberately trying to mislead. Emperor Hadrian loved the classics, Greece and its culture and put down Jewish rebelions. He did not hate them and in fact he is known to have demolished Christian churches everywhere and building temples to Greek Gods. So why you even mention him, he ruled about 100-200 years before the Creed shows what I said in the beginning. Now about the finding the capital of faith at that time this was not an issue. It only became an issue when the Germanic tribes sacked Rome and the empire lost its former capital and with the Germanic tribes in Rome declaring themselves the heirs of 'Rome' when in fact the capital of the empire moved hundreds of years before to Constantinople. And you learn all this free.
This is great content. I disagree with others that the music is too loud. It is a bit unserious though. It sounds like an ad for an X games tournament. Not in keeping with either the subject matter, or its presentation.
@@theeclectic2919 Exactly! When I die, the last thing I would want to look forward to is going to a giant country club in the sky where everyone is the same! I know that's obviously what a LOT of people want, but it chills me to the bone...
Islam is the only religion of truth. God promised to protest the holy Koran from any corruption. And here we are 1400 years later with people converting to Islam in droves just like the Koran said they would.
We don't know what they did or did not do, as they did not record the conversations between the emperor and the bishops. He ordered the church to attend, and they hunted those who did not go. We do have letters sent home, and what they describe gives one chill as to how they saw the emperor. It was a significant turning point; the church became the church of Rome and not that of a Hebrew Messiah. One of the things that did happen is that the emperor ordered the creation of 100 codexes of the books of the Bible, and they were identical, hence standardizing what was used and approved by the emperor...
What a missed opportunity this video is showing an incomplete picture. Constantine is the main reason Jesus is considered divine today. When voting on the issue of divinity or any new dogma for that matter, the bishops maintained that the only way they knew the Holy Spirit was speaking through them was to come to a unanimous decision. Well when it came to whether Jesus was just a human or more, there were a handful of bishops that would not budge and refused to vote for divinity. So Constantine, eager to consolidate his power in the waning days of the Sol Invictus cult and nearing the end to his own life, decided to basically rig the vote by throwing out the votes of the dissenting bishops and whammo, you suddenly have a unanimous vote to call Jesus divine. Soooo yeah, all that death....based on a rigged vote. I'm sensing a repeating pattern here... Also the formula for finding the date of Easter in any given year is this: Easter falls on the first Sunday after the first full moon following the spring equinox.
Paul wrote his letters about three hundred years before this council and always affirmed that if Jesus wasn’t devine then all christianity would be in vain. He and the rest of the New Testament writers affirm His divinity. But even in the Old Testament like the prophet Isaiah (7:14) writes that Jesus would be Emmanuel, God among us. But then again you’ll believe what ever you want to believe. Peace!
@@fluidikons How did you learn that from seminary? We have early church writings from Irenaues and Justin Martyr that affirm Jesus’ divinity. That’s the first thing they would have taught you at seminary
"Constantine is the main reason Jesus is considered divine today." That is not true. The council was called precisely to address this 'new shoot' of Arian's teaching that was not what had been passed down and taught. The Church, as a whole, absolutely and already believed in the divinity of Christ.
Jesus Christ was always seen as divine, even as a created being. No one says angels aren't divine despite being God's creation, so why would His only begotten Son not be seen as divine?
Council of Nicaea changed the Word of God to fit their own agenda. They formed the Trinity which is adding to the Word. Paul spoke about this and said let anyone who adds or takes away from the words in the Bible be accursed. God is One. Jesus is God in a fleshly body. The reason John chapter 1 is correct concerning Jesus is that He always was but not in human form already. he was in the very plan(Word) of God from the beginning. Then it says the Word becomes flesh. Easy to understand that with some revelation
At 3:11 - I love his definition of "consubstantial." Philosphically accurate but laughably unscriptural. What "stuff" was the Father and Son "made" out of. 🤣🤣 I tried to submit a paper in seminary entitled "God Stuff" about the logical absurdity of the term homoosian (consubstantial), but they refused to let me.
How can you believe in the trinity?? (Revelation 1:1) [A revelation by Jesus Christ, which [God] gave him, to show his slaves..] Revelation 1:6 and he made us to be a kingdom, priests to his [God and Father]-yes, to him be the glory and the might forever. Amen. Can't even get through the first chapter of Revelation . Before this false pagan trinity teaching crumbles... (Revelation 3:12,14) NKJV [He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he shall go out no more. I will write on him the name of My God and the name of the city of My God, the New Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My God. And I will write on him My new name.] [“And to the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write, ‘These things says the Amen, the Faithful and True Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God:] ×4 (MY GOD) -Firstborn creation of Almighty God Yahweh/Jah .... The ONE ONLY TRUE GOD (John 17:3) THE TRUTH IS SIMPLE Sha'lom Aleichem in Hamashiach Hallelujah-Praise Jah you people.
I used to argue religion with a Fundamentalist uncle. A surprising number of arguments were ended with the words "Council of Nicea". Never underestimate the power of editing.
How come the other 2 Abrahamic religion view Jesus as a human being while only Christian believe he's a God. Clearly he was born by natural course from Mary and how is this natural birth misinterpreted as the birth of son of God?
Trinitarianism is monotheism. Arianism isn’t monotheism. Why? Well Arianism teaches that the Father and Son are not co-equal. Arius argued that the Son was created by the Father. Jesus is seen as divine but not equal with the Father. Therefore, according to Arianism, the Father and the Son are two distinct and separate divine beings. Whereas the Trinity, They are united in nature and are One Being, One God. As for Islam, there has been many religions that were revealed by an “angel of light” so what makes Muhammad’s revelation true and not another revelation like Joseph Smith’s? Arianism fell before the 7th century by the way.
Islam - founded by a warlord who tried to rewrite the Bible, slaughtered hundreds, sold people into slavery, and married a 6-year-old... all according to Islamic sources.
Stop the ridiculous sound track. It interferes with what you are trying to say.
Yeah I was searching all my other open windows for the annoying one playing that music 😅
Also off topic but how far is casual dress going to go? I was just watching a paleontologist speaking in sweats and t-shirt
In a few years people are going to be hosting news channels sitting on the john, in their underwear or bathrobes I imagine lol
Agree. After one minute I'm out of here. When will these RUclipsrs get it?
Amen
hideous indeed
Just gave up watching it because of that and the not clever “that’s a lot of dudes in pointy hats.”
So much of effort is wasted by loud background music.
Terrible unnecessary background sounds turned me off
Switched off after 20 seconds. So irritating.
Interesting information about the Nicene Creed. I would LOVE to hear what you have to say without distracting loud noise in the background. 👍👏🙏❤️.
Agree.
I agree
well presented excellent The background instrumental is distracting and makes your script challenged by making some of your facts difficult to hear.
Agreed
The fact that this man having to explain the so-called God of Bible !! God's supposedly holy words is proof there's no God!!!
God cannot be tempted with evil (James 1:13).Jesus was tempted by evil(Matt.4:1-11).If Jesus was God, hoe
how could Jesus be tempted by evil? (Mikael Lyngvig).
Before you say well-done to people you should pull everything he says apart then lay it on a table and see if it's real or a fake.
I greatly appreciate you immediately dispelling the myth of how the Bible was codified at the council.
Lol that’s not a myth
@@eccentricbeaut4347, it *is* a myth.
@@tryingnottobeasmartass757 lol yeah no it isn’t… if you think the modern day Bible is how it was from the the Bible back then… you’re a fool
It isn't a myth, it actually happened. This guy is just a christian apologist!
@@tonygrowley5275 Oh, did it really? Your evidence, sir?
Why do all American youtubers have to have LOUD aggravating music. I've missed out on many wonderful videos because of this. Such a shame. Please know we are here for what you are saying. That's enough.
Not quite all of us. Just sayin'.
I'm an American and I agree with you, the audio is terrible in this production. Seems it's to keep your attention on the conversation during the hard rock.
Why are you saying “american”?
@@-studmuffin Because from his point of view, he noticed a trend. You don't have to agree but the premise is quite clear.
It isn't an American thing. It's what Wozjicki's algorithms push. Also the slur at 7:32. Makes sense. If you know, you know
Great info, well presented... the soundtrack is maddening though.
Love your quality content. Just lower down the background music a bit, please. It's quite distracting.
The term "It doesn't make an iota's worth of difference" comes from the Arian/Trinitarian controversy. Trinitarians believe that God the Son was of the same nature as the God the Father. Arians believed that God the Son was of "like nature" with God the Father. The Greek word for "same nature" is "homousious" and the word for "like nature" was "homoiusious." The only difference was the letter "i" - in Greek, "iota." Many in society didn't see the difference.
And the pharoahs were called "son of God" and considered themselves God, Son of God, and with the spirit of God. You're so confused. Jesus was Pharoah and wanted to free Hebrews from slavery. The Hebrews just. Didn't. Get. It.
I love this kind of trivia. Thanks for being nerdy enough to know about this, lol.
Gee, thanks, mister Peabody!
@@joysoyo2416you’re mixing Jesus with Moses now. There’s more than 1000 years between Jesus and Moses freeing his people from Egypt.
It's all fake anyway
Nicea is now Iznik, west of Istanbul, it's a great place to visit. It still has it's town walls and aquaduct. A small town with very friendly locals and not overrun by tourists.
Poetic justice. Islam resolved all the paradoxes imposed by the emperor at Nicea.
@@OmarDenison Truth be told, God's presence is not a resolution. It is a beginning.
@@OmarDenison No it didn't....
I feel like as Christians we should be teaching more of this
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Catholic church has been teaching this since the council. All of the bishops mentioned were of the catholic church
@@DUZCO10 Trinity is blasphemy.
@@YorkerEli I (Jesus Christ) am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.”
Revelation 22:13
go research saint spyridon the wonder worker, holy spirit literally proclaimed the trinity @@YorkerEli
The video is good and informative, but the background music kills it for me. You’ve got hyped up music that sounds like it’s primed for a sports package video, not a historical mini documentary. Completely takes one out of the video
Don’t you find it ironic to say that “the council did not decide on codification of the Bible” and 2 minutes later proceed to say that “the council labeled the alternative as heresy, ordered ever other version burned and owners to be put to death”. Is that not a contradiction?
He is referring to what Arius wrote, not any copy of the Bible.
He was referring to canonization of specific books in the Bible. The burning refers to Arius’ writings.
Then at the very least it was one of the events that decided which books were going to be included and which were going to be burned and forgotten.
@ No books of the Bible were burned at the council.
No books were burned that we know of, doesn't mean it didn't happen. Remember "history" is "HIS STORY" which comes from the same people who have been controlling the world since the start of our civilization. They are controlled by Lucifer and will stop at nothing to make sure that nothing gets in the way of their intended purpose. If you see it on TV it's lies, if it's taught in schools, it will be taught to make sure that it meets the criteria for their agenda. There's a reason why medical doctors don't have more than a single day of classes on health and nutrition, because if we were healthy they wouldn't make any money off selling pills or surgeries. Follow the money. I believe in God but I don't trust religions. I don't know what to believe, but I'm on a mission to figure out what is real about God. Look how many people are fighting over their differences on views of religions. Divide and conquer, that's all religion appears to be good for.
The monumental work “History of the Byzantine Empire: Vol. 1: Constantine to the Crusades” and “History of the Byzantine Empire: Vol. 2: From the Crusades to the Fall of the Empire”, of Alexander Alexandrovich Vasiliev (an expert Byzantinist), is considered one of the best accounts on the Greek legacy of Byzantine history and culture.
Truly, masterpieces.
This was surprisingly well researched and nuanced
I’m a biblical scholar and I was waiting for something much much worse than this but it is generally quite well seen and delivered
Yes, I'm also getting that impression from this series of videos. It's a pleasant feeling.
biblical scholar is an oxymoron! lol
That's because he sugar coated all the killings and what really happened to so many people for not believing what they decided was scriptures out of the 24 thousand,, no two are identical by the way, you would know as some one study them
@@anthonycarmine9953 You should really do some of your own research into this, you’d see that it had nothing to do with the canonization of scripture (which books should be included or excluded). The council was called to address the Arianism heresy, stop getting your historical knowledge from Dan Brown novels.
You're a biblical scholar? What's ur name? I woukd like to research you
You know what I love in videos about history and important events? Loud guitar music and some dude standing in a room, looking straight at me like I wore a thong to the gym.
Gosh😂😅
Thank You for this. I have often heard the idea that the Council of Nicaea deternmined what Books would become Canon so this is insightful. On the flip side the "music" of this video is horrible, too loud, and distracting (my opinion). Still, I Appreciate you Clarifying this topic
Was the councils of hippo and Carthage in North Africa that ratified the New Testament books. However, this wasn't an ecumenical council but rather a local one. The standard canon was handed down through the tradition of the church, which was unwritten practice. Some churches had slight variants in their canons.
Fair presentation. I appreciate the truthfulness of the video. Earned my subscription
Well he lied a few times, especially at 7:32. Not sure why you're so excited about it. Try Ready To Harvest or Dr. Jordan B Cooper if you want honesty about Christianity. And if you want the hidden truths nobody will say, well... Not on this website
Thank you! Very interesting and educational. Sad that so much of Christian churchism as well as other religions, ends up being about power and control, instead of spirituality.
When Jesus had been baptized, he immediately rose from the water and a voice was heard from the heavens, which said: "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. " Who is who? God speaks from heaven to God standing on the ground? Mikael Lyngvig.
One of many great points but unfortunately not enough for the blind to see and the deaf to hear. Hearing they hear not, seeing they see not. JC pbuh
Isaiah 9:6, Jesus is God
How is it possible that so many people doesn't even put questions about the quality of the Bible ?? Do you guys know from what books was the Bible written? It was written from copies of another copies and again from another copies...... Do you really believe the authenticity of those copies ?? Are we sure that nothing's been changed?? It is written in about 800-900 years, so many different authors, so many contradictions in the Bible .... Don't you guys see all this ?? For me personally I think that the most of people think that someone will forgive them at some point , but the truth is that unfortunately other .... At least try to read other gospel about Jesus and his teachings, not just the Bible . Maybe you will get also what Jesus teachings are about.... He's teaching about the mind .... About how to change ur mindset.... Anyway the opinions are all different so.... I wish you all good luck ❤
@@uchennanwogu2142 Jesus and the Bible CONSTANTLY refer to Him as "the Son of God" "who thought it NOT ROBBERY TO BE EQUAL TO GOD" making Him divine. He also CONSTANTLY was talking about His "Father" cementing the idea that they are TWO DIFFERENT BEINGS just as I and MY father are two distinct different beings.
@@larrydewein You’re a heretic, he states he and the Father are one. No one taught your heretical beliefs until now.
Modern version of Arianism: Jehovah's Witnesses.
Those Heretics
That would be an insult to arians.
@@LightForger How can you believe in the trinity??
Revelation 1:1
A revelation by Jesus Christ, which [God] gave him, to show his slaves..
Revelation 1:6
and he made us to be a kingdom, priests to his [God and Father]-yes, to him be the glory and the might forever. Amen.
Can't even get through the first chapter of Revelation . Before this false pagan trinity teaching crumbles...
Hallelujah-Praise Jah you people.
@@GolfnMoreclips: That’s GOD, not “Jah.”
@@redredmane5544 please tell me what you are talking about?
Jah, Yah, YHWH-YAHWEH , Jehovah is the personal name of Almighty God the Father Creator of the Universe
The name likely means (He causes to become) Meaning He becomes or can do- anything to accomplish his will..
Are you a Bible reader? You don't know this?
Hallelujah-Praise Jah you people.
Independent board game publisher Hollandspiele just put out a new game called Nicaea about this very topic! It does a great job modeling the political opportunism at the heart if the First Nicene Council's theological debates. Worth noting that the production value may not be what you'd expect from a game at its price point, but it's worth it for the gameplay and to support a great independent publisher.
Well to my mind you were doing reasonably ok, but then at 7:35 you come out with an entirely unrequired "didn't want their holy day to be beholden to a Jewish holiday, because, you know, anti_semitism" The context is about how Christians determine the date for Easter, and has absolutely nothing to do with anti-semitism. How you introduce anti-semitism into the discussion, in this context, is completely perplexing. Sorry, I gave up on your video here and moved on.
Yeah, absolute nonsense and I think we all know where such a slur comes from
The elephant in the room at the council is that none of these people were genuinely realized souls. They were speculators and they were very wrong. What a joke.
What Nicaea did not finish was accomplished at Chalcedon.
SO .... WHAT YOU'RE SAYING EXTREMELY CLEARLY AND LOUD IS, the notion that "Jesus is a God, is in fact, man-made and the product of a meeting by religious minded MEN and then co-signed by the state .... and it was determined over 300 years after the supposed death and resurrection of "JESUS" ...... Then the "Bible" was revised for over 800 MORE years for a total of OVER 1100 years ..... GOT IT.
Exactly, Jesus says he is the Son of God, and his word trumps all men
True
Yes, aranisim was correct.
Jesus said He Himself is God.
@@ganselch9043 please quote the chapter and verse as no one else on earth has been able to find it in the bibles.
I appreciate that you are capable of discussing the historicity of the Christian church(es) without looking down your nose at the faith.
It's nice to be able to deliver using critiquing not insulting or flattery for sure.
But nobody has to respect the ideology.
It's says things like Israel need only ask and smash us like pottery, crush us with a rod of iron and "inherit" all our lands.
Nah man.. it's arrogant as hell to tell people we have to respect talking about genociding us and stealing everything we own.
Or when Yahweh says he'll gather EVERY nation to Jerusalem and have their houses sacked and women raped. (12 is marriage age according to him)
Absolutely nobody has to "respect" that.
I won't be told to respect global gang rape of women and potentially 12 yr Olds.
Shouldn't he be critical of his own church?
That star is the one star of Venus , it has nothing to do with Judaism.
Anyway, you have the divine spark and you should always trust yourself first.
❤ Faith is inside not in a book of Men. Namaste
If you trust self you will be deceived into believing a lie, trust God's word not self or church tradition
@@j.t.whitestone4985 trusting what some ancient dudes say is “god’s word” is literally living a lie. Wake up.
Been studying this council since I was 16, always found it interesting. I do have my own opinions and beliefs on what the council is responsible for with the ancient Egyptians but I’ll be mindful/respectful to peoples belief.
I’d love to hear about it! Forget offending someone.
@@YoungKalei facts bro let's hear it! i'm religious myself but idc, discussion is the way to knowledge and truth!
_For a Father to witness the denial, torture and death of His own son is The Greatest of Sacrifice he can make. Ask any Father here on Earth. For a Son to Rise up in Freedom & Love and Choose to make a sacrifice this great is a Father's greatest honor & a son's greatest glory._
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Constantine was No Christian. Constantine and his clever politicking while passing "laws" against the primary teachings of Christ just as Paul and Christ emphatically warned the new Christian church did so to stop the fighting & persecution. He worshiped Pluto and Saturn yet was the "Christian (???)" emperor who passed new Views & teachings thus adopted "law". _"Worship our way or be brutally persecuted and tortured; even burned alive!"_ A year after The First Council of Nicaea Constantine had his wife and son murdered. Nice guy.
It was Constantine who passed a law voted by various bishops; many involved in mystic views - that Christ and Elohim & the Spirit were one single sentient being. Ironic that this view has a very deep pagan Greek polytheistic origin. Prior to the The First Council of Nicaea, The "Aryan" view was the accepted view for hundreds of years. Oh and btw when Constantine decided to become baptized _(on his death bed because that way he believed he would not be held accountable for his many past sins);_ The Bishop who baptized him was Aryan.
The original Christian founders were Jews and they repeatedly admonished future generations of the "last days" to "get out of Babylon (the great)" because we are *in* Babylon the great aka False teachings or the doctrines of men. Then move on to Easter and Sunday and Saturday, Hell Fire etc - just some of many pagan doctrines that Paul warned would creep into the Church. And tell me why was John's first vision regarding the degradation of the Church and it's teachings? Why would God judge the Church so harshly if innocent? Why are there page after page of denunciations regarding the state of the Church and teachings found w/i the words spoken by Elohim Himself then recorded by the likes of Isiah or Ezekiel or Daniel and again for this very hour or generation? There are 3 full pages side by side in Ezekiel alone of how poorly the average pastor and self proclaimed prophet would behave in this very hour and all the false teachings therein.
The Trinity is the oldest pagan doctrine around, as old as Nimrod. And All the prophets in unison say that 90% of the pastors today will be teaching false doctrine. John echos this in his vision on the Isl of patmos. The church is corrupt. "The Reformation" did reform but failed to restore the simple purity of the redemptive message via the Christ through the prophets.
Read the first 3 denunciations of the church. At the end of all three - _Elohim speaks in threes for emphasis_ - it states (in a nutshell) that the one who clearly sees the sins of the Church will be written in the book of life.
Jesus first created and Beloved son of Elohim; our true Risen King currently Sits at the Right hand of Himself? Yeshua is the first created being "first son" within our reality as we understand it. Elohim then created all the angels. Yeshua/Jesus is the very seed of Creation Himself. (Read the first few chapters of Hebrews - use a good translation - then read the Septuagint - that is if you are brave enough to take the red pill.). He is the only angelic being able to create. All things (w/i our reality) are created by Him, through Him and for Him. He holds all the Adamic and Angelic DNA. There exist 12 distinct types; Jesus being the Archetype. This is exactly how Jesus was able to be born of the tribe of Judah when Mary was not. Yeshua used the living spirit and power of Elohim to create with Elohim's approval and authority. Jesus was full man/human when He walked the Earth thus in his success proved Satan's claims as false. He facilitated His father's life sustaining spirit to aid Him - to Heal others etc. He is the first fruit of many (to come). Peter, John, Paul were able to access Elohim's spirit as well with the same power later but not until after Jesus finished His commission.
To quote Tozer in a nutshell "The Trinity; the greatest Mystery never contested"
@@YoungKaleiI'm not religious but I would also like some more knowledge.
Yeah if Jesus has been mindful/respectful to people's belief I believed He will not die on the cross & disobey the Father will.
I was pleasantly surprised! An even-handed video on a touchy subject.
I found myself nodding in agreement with the clear and well-done presentation, untangling the myth from the history of the Council of Nicaea.
However, I started cackling like a lunatic at comparing Comptus to Computo from the Legion of Superheroes and Adventure comics.
That's some 12th-level nerd-flex, there.
Well done, sir. Well done.
The first council picking what books are in the Bible was the 382 Council of Rome. Then the 393 Synod of Hippo, 397 Council of Carthage, 1445 Encyclical Council of Florence and then the 1563 Council of Trent. Each one had the same books in them and included the Deuterocanonical books.
So far as I know, only Orthodoxy follows the agreed upon conclusions of the 7 councils. Every other body either ignores (see all protestants) or adds (hello, Rome!) what suits them personally.
@@GopnikVlad The Orthodox do not have the authority to call an Ecumenical Council. They need the pope or an emperor crowned by the pope. That’s why we have more councils, because we have someone with the authority to call one.
and this is based on...?@@paulmualdeave5063
and this is based on...?@@paulmualdeave5063
@@paulmualdeave5063 based on?
Great background music! I was going to swipe away, but stayed for the music. And that stuff you were talking about.
Why is Marcion of Sinope not mentioned?
He wasn't alive in 325 A.D.
The fact that east and west still don't agree on inclusion or exclusion of books speaks volumes. Same can be said of Protestant and Catholic beliefs about which books should be included. I am finding myself back where I started with the bible decades ago. The word without the confusion of religious overlay and belief from authoritarianism. The first councils of the fourth and fifth centuries were as political as they were theological. The church by then, even, seemed to have gone in a direction opposite of what the gospels appear to teach. The bishops arguing and discussing amongst themselves regarding canon and non-canon and positions of authority answerable to this faction or that reminds me of Jesus overhearing his disciples discussing what places of authority they would occupy in the Kingdom. A rebuke was swift in the offing. The church today even, needs a swift rebuke from higher up. I truly believe certain books were eliminated, suppressed, forced out, because the theology was at odds with the original books of the first century. I sometimes wonder at the reasons why certain books in the bible were included. The gospel of John or Revelation, for example, were once disputed for the imagery or the authenticity of depiction and theology. The pseudo-Pauline books written after Paul's death, too, seem to have a different tone to them than the Pauline books we know were written by Paul, like Romans, for example.
I have recited the Nicean Creed so many times in my life and never before thought about its history fascinating
Sad!
No disrespect but that goes to show how we just do things cause we are told to
@@swagcity6215 heretic
They Changed The Bible
But Still people Think it's God's Book
@@UntamedEast Cry
Writing this as I go along in the video.
1. They didn't wear pointy hats yet (that didn't come till the 11th century).
2. Constantine didn't become a baptized Christian until about a week before his death, so . . .
3. Even though he reposed as a Christian, and even though he is canonized, the first truly devout Christian Emperor is Theodosius.
4. The bishop of Rome was not yet referred to even affectionately as "Pope," although the bishop of Alexandria already was.
5. Although parts of the canon of scripture were agreed to early on (like the four gospels), notably Athanasius, who was a deacon at the 1st council, gave us the first complete NT list.
6. The Second Oecumenical Council (381 AD) DID give us the first Christian canon of scripture, including the OT, the non-canonical books (sometimes called the deuterocanonical books) and the NT that we know today.
7. Constantine indeed called for a council to be held, but it was not because he took the side against Arius in the beginning. On the contrary, Constantine was generally closer to the Arian bishops at the start of the council.
8. St. Nicholas slapped Arius on the mouth. He didn't deck him. Iconography of the event predates the first known written account, so it is certainly older than the written account.
9. The choice of Pascha or Easter had nothing to do with antisemitism (a common misconception). It is because Christ rose from the dead following Passover. Thus, they decreed that the Day of Resurrection should also always be celebrated after the Jewish Passover. This isn't antisemitism, this is honoring the lineage of Christianity.
10. The west no longer follows the proscription of not having the day of celebration on Passover, if memory serves me.
11. The council of Nicea lasted for about a year. Constantine was occasionally in attendance, but usually not. He spoke Latin, and the council was held in Greek. When he did attend, Bishop Hosios of Spain translated for him. Because he was not a Christian (yet), though his mother was, he could make no decisions or render no opinions about the dogma of the Church. His enforcement of the banishment of Arians had more to do with keeping civic peace: the life of Athanasius shows just how dangerous things got for a bit. To say that the Emperor at this time enforced dogma is inaccurate (though later Emperors would certainly attempt to do so, albeit unsuccessfully in the long term).
12. The Emperor did not rule over theology. This is a false narrative. Later emperors participated in the life of the Church, and more than one received censure and rebuke from Church figures over various things.
13. Constantine did not formally convert after his dream. He took a deep interest in the Church, but his conversion didn't take place till the end of his life.
14. The Edict of Milan gave freedom to all religions-even Arianism, which lasted until (if memory serves me) the seventh century. This again shows that the exile of Arians was civic more than dogmatic on Constantine's part.
15. The Hagia Sophia would not be built for centuries after Constantine. It had nothing to do with the Edict of Milan directly.
16. Constantine DID NOT oversee the First Council. He called for it, but he had no authority in it. He was honored by the bishops attending, nothing more.
17. Ah, sorry for spoiling the video: I didn't know you were going to mention Constantine's baptism.
18. The First Council did not establish a formal link between Church and State. There aren't even any official acts of the Council of Nicea (which makes sense, since they were coming out of the age of persecution and were likely quite secretive), so to say that it did establish such a link without the benefit of evidence is pure speculation, which falls apart upon later inspection of councils. All we have is the first part of the creed and the letters of bishops about the council to inform us about what transpired there.
19. Constantine did care about Christianity and Christian theology. He did not like to see the bishops argue over it. He took enough interest to sponsor them all for a year in Nicea (he put his money where his mouth was), plus he built churches, including the first version (not the present version) of St. Peter's in Rome-though not Hagia Sophia.
20. Eusebius of Nicomedia (not to be confused with Eusebius of Caesarea, the Church historian, who was also present at the First Council) was a repentant Arian (i.e., back in the Orthodox party) at the time he baptized Constantine.
21. St. Athanasius was certainly a force to be reckoned with in his life; but at the time of the Council, he was a deacon, I believe, under Bishop Alexander of Alexandria, who was the presiding Bishop at the Council.
22. The truth of the Council of Nicea isn't messed up at all, even if modern reporting on it is. It was a complete blessing for the Church and for the world.
To those complaining about the background music: there is a new setting you can toggle in RUclips for sound balancing. Try it both ways to see which one sounds better.
Thanks for the information.
That Howdy Dowdy statue is pure nightmare fuel.
Is this where they editted the Ten Commandments where they removed the commandment forbidding graven images?
Imagine, it all happened 3 centuries after the death of Jesus.
So, within three hundred years Christianity became THIS complicated. Amen. 103021
@@orchidorio : Actually, the doctrine of the Trinity as we now have it was not formulated until AFTER Nicea. So how could there be an 'orthodox' view?
Who knew the other Abrahamic religions believe the only true god is the father. Islam and Judaism believes theres one god and no other persons! You must wonder why Most of Christianity is the only anomaly between the 3 Abrahamic religions? Does that mean the Jews in the old testament were wrong this whole time believing for only one god? Lol
@@cyanara5523god in heaven, his word on earth and his spirit that does his will. 1 god 3 tools.
@@paulploy6830 But those tools are one in accord and is not one person its the same as
1 Corinthians 3:6-11
He who plants and he who waters are one, and each will receive his wages according to his labor. For we are God's fellow workers. You are God's field, God's building.
These are two people referring to 2 of the apostles are you going to say that they are one in a literal sense? Or are they one because they are doing the same task at hand?
If 2 farmers have 2 different jobs but their job is to grow a plant they are one in accord. Not one in person
The fact that believers are promised to be "heirs of God and joint-heirs with Christ" kind of confers a degree of legitimacy to Arianism. If a believer is a joint-heir with Christ, that implies very strongly that Christ is an heir of God, and like any heir, is subordinate to the heir-giver. The Apostles, according to Peter, had a more sure word of prophecy (2 Peter 1:19). But all we have from them is a set of rather randomly preserved set of correspondences (letters). By the time of the Nicean Council, all prophecy had fled, and the only thing left was the philosophies of men, mingled with scripture. So when Peter said "that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation," private interpretation was all they had left.
Surprisingly well researched video.
Good coverage. It is interesting to note that Arianism is very similar to Islam in it's belief of God and Jesus. Christianity and Islam have very similar history and beliefs (including their respect for Jesus) but the biggest difference is that Christians are trinitarians and Muslims are unitarians believing in only 1 indivisible god with Jesus being one of his major prophets.
Arians still believe Jesus is divine, like a being higher than all angels but slightly lower than God.
Christianity,Islam,Judaism are all Abrahamic which is why they are so similar,all 3 co sign each other.
Christianity does not have “respect” for Jesus.
Jesus is God in flesh just as scripture says.
@@kellyanne7225 of course, because the bible said so.
Jehova Witness is more similar to Arianism than Islam.
Excellent objective presentation of a religion. I personally appreciate the Historicity of it all. Ubuntu Ma'at Ase'🙏🏿
Correction on Easter. They didn't change the date of Easter. They changed the celebration of the Resurrection from occurring at Passover to occurring at Easter. Easter was already a Roman holiday to celebrate the goddess of fertility Ishtar, this is why its associated with bunnies. What they changed was that it would be the celebration of the resurrection instead of Ishtar, and instead of celebrating that at Passover
No, this is not true. Debate over the date to celebrate the resurrection first arose in the time of Polycarp and Victor I of Rome. Apparently, the apostle John had taught his disciples in Asia Minor to worship on Nisan 14th according to the Jewish calendar while Paul and Peter had instructed the Roman Christians to celebrate on the rotating date now used so it would always fall on a Sunday. Romans did not worship Ishtar. Ishtar was a Mesopotamian goddess. The closest approximation in Rome would have been Venus. The name "easter" is actual an English problem that had nothing to do with the Romans. Proto-Germanic speakers had a month named after the goddess Ēostre which matched up with the rotating dates of the resurrection celebration, thus the name "Easter" in English.
@@andyontheinternet5777Can you tell me where Paul instructed the Roman Catholic church to celebrate Easter on Sunday?
@@DestinyAwaitsChannel No writing attributed to Peter or Paul teaches this, but it was considered part of apostolic tradition fairly early on. Since Peter and Paul were regarded as the founders of the Roman church, it is reasonable to assume they were the originators, although the claim could be disputed and is likely more nuanced than this.
Eusebius’ Church History - Book 5, chapters 23-24, discusses the controversy in detail.
I'd provide you a link, but RUclips likes to delete comments with links. Paste the reference in your browser, and you should be able to find the text.
@@andyontheinternet5777people often use the false etymology of ishtar because it sounds like Easter. The 2 have nothing to do with each other
@@playasurf1000 Of course you are right because English was not even a language when the Nicea synod took place. In fact was not even a language for about 1200 years after it took place.
It seems like the 'church' has screwed around so much with their history that it is impossible to know with certainty what in the world happened. The anonymity of the gospels being attributed by the 'church' to specific people and the unquestioning adherence to that by nearly everyone tells you just how optional and unnecessary 'truth' is.
10:15 Need proof for the claim that Christians were forbidden and persecuted in a targeted and wide spread way by the Roman Empire, which seems to be the insinuation. Yes I am aware of the Wikipedia article on the topic of Christian persecution, but the time period in question there cited sporadic and localized incidents, such as Nero. But the claim that all Christians were forbidden and persecuted sustaining over many years and systematically by the Roman empire before Constantine is a dubious one.
surprisingly well researched.
He was reading a script, he dosent know what he is talking about .
I've watched that Vantriloquist/Dummy "Twilight Zone" episode too much. Was waiting on him to sit up. 😅🤣
The background music is distracting 😮
I've always wondered. Thanks for specificity.
The fact that the church thought that the Son could not be a creation of God due to John Chapter 1v1 is totally unreasonable. The word (or Son) was in the beginning. The beginning of what? God is eternal and had no beginning. The book of Revelation, written by the same apostle John in chapter 3 and verse 14 tells us that the Son (Identified as then faithful and true witness) was the beginning of creation BY God. So, the beginning mentioned in John 1;1 is the beginning of creation. The son is quite obviously the firstborn (brought forth, created) of all creation. The first thing made by the Father. Everything makes sense in the koine Greek when we realize that the Son is created. Divine yes, but created.
Good point! Thank you!! I never noticed that Scripture before!
Yes, this is and was obvious.
The council of Nicaea was likely political theatrics and the result was determined well before its conclusion.
Constatine's Church clearly had two main objectives; 1) differentiate Christianity and Judaism and 2) incorporate more Greek philosophy into scripture. The cosubstantiation of Jesus and the Trinity accomplishes both of these goals, in spite of direct scripture.
To Constantine and radical Greek bishops, Ariansim was simply too Jewish to be considered uniquely Roman.
@@Chadwick-k7x interesting comment. It does seem that the church of the third/fourth century was doing everything possible to free itself of being a sect of judaism. To the extent of corrupting the very nature of God.
That fact that you ignored the rest of John 1:1 makes your comment wrong
Hi. I’m a Greek Christian. The Greek scriptures do not teach the trinity. The Council of Nicaea was influenced by pagan Greek thought.
The premise that the Gospel of John promotes the teaching that the Son of God is equal to God is erroneous even if you read John 1:1 as saying that the Son was God, the translation of which is disputed. Verses later on in chapter 1 clarify the Son's position in relation to the Father. Arianism was opposed to a much more ancient idea of a trinity, which descended from ancient religions not related to the Judeo-Christian tradition.
The confusion in religion reflects the different cultures in a quest for control.
😇1st for 15.1.4!
That doesn't make God and his Son Jesus untrue, it means there are STILL men wanting control over them.
HoneySpoon BeeWrangler I think the gnostics had the best interpretation..... but you can't command people to kill for Gnosticism....
I am speaking of the official definition of Mary Sue.
It is more alien to the human condition than any extraterrestrial
Music is helpful keeping me alert while you review a complicated story.
This is interesting, anything to do with religion is all wrong with the living people on earth!! God bless God's children, Amen!!🙏
Amen 🙏
Have you seen the crap unfolding in Canada? The church and religion MUST go!! We are in the 21st century, well past the time of superstitious belief.
Religion is not Faith. Religion is organized rules created by men in order to worship and reach the divine. Faith is having belief in something you can't see or touch.
As for the second comment I live in Canada and we have more Muslims than Christians. Believing in God and Jesus as the Son of God and the Son of Man isn't superstition. It's plain truth. The only place the Church is going is with Jesus when the rapture of the Church occurs. Don't curse and throw out what you clearly lack understanding in.
@@Zantetsuken94 The first Jewish revolt, mithra & the reason why Constantine changed his surname to flavius gives you a better understanding of the council of Nicea.
An as a Muslim I believe Jesus peace be upon is a prophet to the lost sheep of Israel. Not the begotten sun of god that's blasphemy!!!!
@@myisden2954 Speaking like a true dictator. Wanting to remove people from freedom to believe in God. Soon, I hope you find that both science and a conscious source (Supreme intellect) responsible for reality go hand in hand.
Just saw this. Excellent work. Is there an app to remove the background? On second thought, the chaotic distraction seems to fit the narrative and overall gist of the presentation. Nicely done.
There was no Orthodox. The council itself was a search for Orthodoxy. The gospel of John just says that Jesus was with God from the beginning. That does not specifically state that Jesus is eternal, but that Jesus was with God from the beginning. It could be the beginning of the creation of Earth.
With all due respect that doesn't make much sense.
@@ralphgreenwood2469it makes perfect sense. Read it again
Jesus says the Father and I are one.
Jesus says that everything the Father has He gives to the Son.
Jesus says before abraham was I Am.
I Am was yahwehs self-designation.
There are plenty of texts showing Jesus' equality with the Father.
Iznik (formerly Nicaea) is a relaxed agricultural town with some impressive Byzantine ruins that date from the 13th century when Constantinople was overrun by the Latins. Word has it that the pope will visit it this year. This will be fun, and a chance for us Arians to take up the argument again, just a few centuries later.
P.S. schism: Please check your pronunciation. Think the first syllable of "scissors."
Are you very sure that the trinity was established well in the Christian church before and the Christians were shocked to know that Arian was teaching differently? 🤔🤔 Bcz Nowhere in the bible we could find the word Trinity. It seems that Constantine was the one who introduced Trinity
Yes he did because he himself was a pegan believer he believed in Sol Inctivus .. Apollo and all the pegan God's.. then when he saw the rise of Christianity he saw the chance to unify both beliefs. You can't tell ppl tht a person tht was once a pegan believer who had power to choose wht is to be worshiped had no bias
The word trinity isn’t in the bible you are correct but throughout both old and New Testament there is proper doctrine proving that God Is one being but 3 distinct persons known as God the Father who is fully God but isn’t The Son or the Holy Spirit, God The Son who is Fully God but isn’t God the Father or The Holy Spirit. And the Holy Spirit who is Fully God But also isn’t God the Father or God the Son. Yet they are the Same God but different Persons.
@@nathanyoung2829 yeah verses that are unaccounted for that the church decided to put in the bible and rule out any gospel that didn't fit their criteria. Like the gospel of Philip or Mary Magdalene ..why?
@@cyraps good question and the answers really simple they teach Gnosticism which isn’t coherent with the rest of scripture.
@@nathanyoung2829trinity does not make any logical sense. Which is why people who spout it always reverts to the theory as “mystery” or “cant be explained”. The mental gymnastic is insane. Unitarian is simple and makes sense. It’s quite blasphemous to think God the creator has others equal to him. Jesus was super clear in saying that he’s not good but only God is.
When did the Catholics decide on their cannon and were arguments for this cannon made at the Council of Nicea? If so, then it’s not a myth that canonization was discussed at the Council of Nicea.
No, arguments about the Canon were not made at Nicea, it was merely about whether Jesus was God or just a secondary creator of the Universe. Besides, the Gospels were already settled way before Constantine was born.
They needed the State to enforce religion when they started to loose control.
The inverse is true today.
@@Maximos384 The enemy from within. Another parallel.
Thanks for this video.
Stop the music!!!!
I agree. Ruins the whole delivery
The music is perfect 👌🏽
I agree. How annoying. And it distracts from my ability to listen
Agree! Extremely disruptive. 😖
@ infuriating. Where did they get the idea that music must be played constantly throughout this. Since when does that help a presentation?
Fun facts: The U.S. Statue of Liberty was modeled after the Colossus of Rhodes.
The Colossus of Rhodes was a statue of the Greek Sun God Helios, which was also the Roman god Sol.
Therefore the Statue of Liberty looks suspiciously like the Sun God Helios
You might also be familiar with helium, which is what balloons are filled with that float. The Sun is around 30% helium.
Helium was also named after Helios, the Sun God. The Suns solar flares and solar rays are of course, named after Sol.
Thanks a lot for this information.
I love your coverage of historical events. Thanks for doing this.
The council of Jerusalem was the first council.
Arian was an African bishop of Serapis the Christ from Libya and they were all arguing over what this creature was. Jesus was technically incarnated with the invention of the letter J. And that doesn't happen for a couple of hundred of years after the Council on Nicaea.
"Wiccan business" I wish people knew a lot of us pagans dont identify with the wiccan faith
Dude, right!!!!! Most don't!! It's so annoying when people ask if I'm Wiccan!
@@cutebutsadisticable Why have any religion?
@@theeclectic2919 why not?
@@cutebutsadisticable Religion is just humanity's first attempt at controlling people. It's more primitive than organized government, but it still works (unfortunately.)
@@theeclectic2919 blech talk about crude over generalizations. The truth is what you're asking is tantamount to saying "why have any culture?" Since Religion is a function of Culture whereby the collectives of a society venerate the ideals and model of reality that motivate them unto certain ends. Religion is an important function of anthropic reality. Liminality and social psychology all find their drives originated within culture and religion.
The Universe is infinite, no beginning, no end, no Big Bang, no centre, no time, unknowable.
The brain of God if you will. And we are an essential part of it with a brain that is a microcosm of the infinite.
This truth supersedes everything on this planet.
The music really takes away from the presentation. I'm very excited about the content but I literally am turning this video off and haven't made it through a quarter of the video because it's so distracting. The music doesn't compliment the context or content.
Same, got to 1.55 and gave up
@@anniev48 Its quite disappointing.
It's interesting that all these Videos about this topic never says anything about what The Creator of all thing says. When everyone realizes that The Creator has no problem letting his creation know exactly what he wants. Man only adds confusion and division. This video was great showing how even then man's perception of Christ caused death, division and confusion back then and it hasn't changed to this day.
This is where they officially instituted the absolutely false trinity doctrine and threw the church into the dark ages.
The video proves that Christianity is a false/man made/and pagan religion not worth following, and placing your eternal destination in.
this was almost 400 years after jesus.
God is seen to br multi personal in the old testament, try again
At the time stamp 6:34 and slightly before it, you'll see a quote that is being read off by the presenter. If you glance at the name associated with said quote, you'll see an editing error. First one I've ever seen in all the years that I've watched Grunge. For that, I applaud you fine folks on an outstanding run, WELL DONE!!!
Wow, unsubstantiated charges of anti-Semitism. You win the cliche award.
😂
Had the same thought like u not gonna source this claim
I figured it was more because "we don't want to share a holy day with your religion. We want our own!"
I still don't know what a Semite is? Or who the Semitic people are?
It's frigging confusing. They can't all be Jewish.
Council of Laodicea
Canon 29
Christians must not judaize by resting on the Sabbath, but must work on that day, rather honouring the Lord's Day; and, if they can, resting then as Christians. But if any shall be found to be judaizers, let them be anathema from Christ.
Thank you for the explanation of Arianism. The Vandals of North Africa (along with the Alans who went with them) were Arians, and so the later fights between the Eastern Roman Empire and the Vandals were tinged with religions dispute of Trinitarians vs Arians.
Notice the 'mitres' the bishops are all wearing? what is their origin? They were exactly the same as the head dresses worn by the priests of Dagon the 'Fish god' ( see 'the pagan origin of the mitre' in google). Harldy fitting for 'Christian' bishops to wear! Just an outward expression of the inward pagan amagamation of beliefs that the council of Nicea introduced to a corrupting church!
The paintings are from centuries after the council. At the council of Nicea miters did not yet exist. We do not see a miter like headdress for bishops before the 11th century, the first small ones probably influenced by the crown of the Byzantine emperor. That is 2000 years after this so called fish God. There is no connection what so ever. This fish god story was invented by a guy in the 19th century with a very bad grasp of history and all he wrote has long been debunked by serious historians.
@@ladydustin7811 Thanks, very informative! Poin taken. However. Please tell me how you feel about men of God wearing elaborate robes e.t.? Can you equate that with all we real about the early Christians. ( I will do more research as to several pagan apendages depicted on church robes. I do know for sure that the 'Chi Rho ( Jesus enitials in Latin) were used by pagan Constantine and adorned to the shields of his warrioirs at the battle of Malvern gate in Rome. It also was displayed on banners that went to areas of the battle to give it more power therre! Christian? I hardly think so!
And please enlighten us who are you exactly to tell them what is a 'Harldy fitting for 'Christian' bishops to wear!' because these people were the the Church fathers or they knew, taught by the very early Church fathers who were taught by Church fathers who met St Paul.
@@user-tg3tj2nq6v I am not trying to be disrespectful! But I am trying to be respectful to the Lord Jesus who wore a simple garment. So much so that the only way the soldiours would have identified him was by the kiss of Judas! Appart from that he looked just like his disciples who wore ordinary everyday clothes! It was the scribes and Pharisees who wore DISTICTIVE garb! (Matt 23:5) As for The 'church fathers knowing Paul'. Sorry but Paul died in 65AD in Rome. The first 'church father' was Polycarp who did know John who was a very old man in 100AD. Polycarp was the first church father. Anyway its not 'knowing' another mere human that means anything, its following Christ's example. He was humble and lowly. Isa 53 says of him " when we shall see him there is no beauty that we shall desire him" ( verse 2). Unlike Jesus, clerics down through the ages have loved to wear sumptuos robes and garments, very expensive. |Purple & gold with large mitre hats e.t.c. This means nothing to God who looks on the heart & NOT the outward apperance! Surely you agree?
At 8:40 - Melitius of Lycopolis was not "insubordinate" to the bishop of Alexandria. There was no heirarchy above the local church before Nicaea created the Pentarchy, when the Roman State the Bishop of Alexandira over the bishops of Egypt. Melitius was part of the controversy with Arius, because in the previous generation, Peter unilaterally excommunicated Arius when he was young as a way of attacking Melitius for siding with the Novatian "rebaptizers" after Cyprian and the Romans started forging doctrines around the idea of denying Christ under persecution and then asking for forgiveness when the persecution ended.
Novatus said the Church did not have authority to readmit those who denied Christ publicly, but the sect eventually settled on readmittance if the people were rebaptized, because it was literally the 1st generation after child baptism became a thing, and they were essentually saying they weren't really born again. Cyprian and the bishop of Rome contested this as a heresy more to preserve Cyrpians own office, becaue he fled from Carthage when the persecution started, and then tried to make up rules of readmittance, claiming that the Roman Catholic "mother church" baptism was always efficacious. He even added the term "again" to John 3:5 to claim that one is "born again of water and the spirit," to make the case, which Jerome added to the Latin Vulgate, all to prop up the false doctrine of baptismal regeneration.
Melitius and many others sided with Novatus, who was elected by the elders of Rome to be the next bishop, while his rival who sided with Cyprian was elected by popular vote, many of whom had relatives that denied Christ that they wanted readmitted into the Church, while Novatus was saying this was not permitted. The bishop of Alexandira, (Dionysus I believe) also fled when persecution started, so he naturally sided with Cyprian, leading to his successor Peter condeming Melitius for taking the opposite stance. This claim was based on the idea of the regional Synod at Carthage being authoritative over the churches of Egypt, rather than the bishop of Alexandria, who attended the conference. But the Alexandrian bishops were always pushing for more power, which led to them eventually beating the bishop of Constantinople to death when someone from a rival sect was elected. This led to the Council of Carthage, which was largely about putting Alexandria in its palce.
The early church was a train wreck folks. There was nothing authoritative in the ecumenical councils. Stand under the Word of God. Nothing more.
The 'holy trinity' may well be a coded political message.
Begin with the concept of primogeniture, where the eldest son inherits the entire estate when his father dies.
Project this to rules of royal succession: The current king is legitimate because he is the first born son of the 'holy ghost', or what is now the ghost of the previous king. The current king's first born son is the legitimate heir to the throne, thus 'the father, the son, and the holy ghost'. Since royal successions were often messy, this was coded in religious terms. A lot of people that 'never understood' the religious doctrine might have assimilated the intended secular meaning without even realizing it.
Wonderful explanation. Many people completely overlooked the fact, that the Bible was written by men, thinking it's a book it fell out of the sky. I was raised a Christian, however I wasn't brainswashed i loved to investigate and I love history. Reading the origins of Christianity made me realize that's it's nothing but words to control the masses
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According to the Catholic Encyclopedia, the Catholic Church changed the baptismal formula from "in the name of Jesus Christ" to "in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit" in the second century. The Catholic Church considers Trinitarian baptisms to be valid, and while other baptismal formulas are acceptable, they must have been performed by a church or person who believes in the Trinity.
Could you remove that creepy Howdy Doody from the shelf behind you? Thanking you in advance.
Yes! I thought it was just me.
-creepy.
Imagine he said "I don't own a howdy dowdy doll"
I find it amazing that so much time and effort was, and still is, spent regarding a fictional entity.
One of the most topics I believe is missed was they didn't know where to place their capital of the faith. Emperor Hadrian having hated Jews so much had their cities and history erased. Constantine's mother was dispatched to find Jerusalem and the place of the true cross. At the time "Jerusalem" was a village, home to Asiatic Jewish tribes. Coincidently the area was found to be a holy site and became a power base for Constantine in the most ideal location. What if it wasn't the true Jerusalem though?
Asiatic Jewish tribes whats that?How did do they find archaeological sites mentioned in the Bible if no one knows where Jerusalem really is?
Conjecture either you are ignorant of history or deliberately trying to mislead. Emperor Hadrian loved the classics, Greece and its culture and put down Jewish rebelions. He did not hate them and in fact he is known to have demolished Christian churches everywhere and building temples to Greek Gods. So why you even mention him, he ruled about 100-200 years before the Creed shows what I said in the beginning. Now about the finding the capital of faith at that time this was not an issue. It only became an issue when the Germanic tribes sacked Rome and the empire lost its former capital and with the Germanic tribes in Rome declaring themselves the heirs of 'Rome' when in fact the capital of the empire moved hundreds of years before to Constantinople. And you learn all this free.
I like the message stated my St. Change Name at 6:20
Yeh.
St. Name Change.
My favourite saint
More than good enough for me to screen out the noise.
Background music..
As a Christian i approve this video.
1:06 Jordan Peterson?
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This is great content. I disagree with others that the music is too loud. It is a bit unserious though. It sounds like an ad for an X games tournament. Not in keeping with either the subject matter, or its presentation.
I wish there were a religion based on inclusion and not division...
If there was, it would no longer be a religion.
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Exactly! When I die, the last thing I would want to look forward to is going to a giant country club in the sky where everyone is the same! I know that's obviously what a LOT of people want, but it chills me to the bone...
Don't worry, there's another special place for people like you.
Islam is the only religion of truth. God promised to protest the holy Koran from any corruption. And here we are 1400 years later with people converting to Islam in droves just like the Koran said they would.
We don't know what they did or did not do, as they did not record the conversations between the emperor and the bishops. He ordered the church to attend, and they hunted those who did not go. We do have letters sent home, and what they describe gives one chill as to how they saw the emperor. It was a significant turning point; the church became the church of Rome and not that of a Hebrew Messiah. One of the things that did happen is that the emperor ordered the creation of 100 codexes of the books of the Bible, and they were identical, hence standardizing what was used and approved by the emperor...
What a missed opportunity this video is showing an incomplete picture. Constantine is the main reason Jesus is considered divine today. When voting on the issue of divinity or any new dogma for that matter, the bishops maintained that the only way they knew the Holy Spirit was speaking through them was to come to a unanimous decision. Well when it came to whether Jesus was just a human or more, there were a handful of bishops that would not budge and refused to vote for divinity. So Constantine, eager to consolidate his power in the waning days of the Sol Invictus cult and nearing the end to his own life, decided to basically rig the vote by throwing out the votes of the dissenting bishops and whammo, you suddenly have a unanimous vote to call Jesus divine. Soooo yeah, all that death....based on a rigged vote. I'm sensing a repeating pattern here...
Also the formula for finding the date of Easter in any given year is this: Easter falls on the first Sunday after the first full moon following the spring equinox.
Paul wrote his letters about three hundred years before this council and always affirmed that if Jesus wasn’t devine then all christianity would be in vain. He and the rest of the New Testament writers affirm His divinity. But even in the Old Testament like the prophet Isaiah (7:14) writes that Jesus would be Emmanuel, God among us. But then again you’ll believe what ever you want to believe. Peace!
@@atgred yes I know all the refutations. I learned what I learned in seminary actually.
@@fluidikons How did you learn that from seminary? We have early church writings from Irenaues and Justin Martyr that affirm Jesus’ divinity. That’s the first thing they would have taught you at seminary
"Constantine is the main reason Jesus is considered divine today." That is not true. The council was called precisely to address this 'new shoot' of Arian's teaching that was not what had been passed down and taught. The Church, as a whole, absolutely and already believed in the divinity of Christ.
Jesus Christ was always seen as divine, even as a created being. No one says angels aren't divine despite being God's creation, so why would His only begotten Son not be seen as divine?
First visit. I left at 3:33 after deciding I did not like the band. I´ll find my answer through other YT channels then.
Council of Nicaea changed the Word of God to fit their own agenda. They formed the Trinity which is adding to the Word. Paul spoke about this and said let anyone who adds or takes away from the words in the Bible be accursed. God is One. Jesus is God in a fleshly body. The reason John chapter 1 is correct concerning Jesus is that He always was but not in human form already. he was in the very plan(Word) of God from the beginning. Then it says the Word becomes flesh. Easy to understand that with some revelation
Look into the Aleph Tav Bible where the Aleph Tav symbol representing Yeshua appears about 7,000 times
At 3:11 - I love his definition of "consubstantial." Philosphically accurate but laughably unscriptural. What "stuff" was the Father and Son "made" out of. 🤣🤣 I tried to submit a paper in seminary entitled "God Stuff" about the logical absurdity of the term homoosian (consubstantial), but they refused to let me.
How can you believe in the trinity??
(Revelation 1:1)
[A revelation by Jesus Christ, which [God] gave him, to show his slaves..]
Revelation 1:6
and he made us to be a kingdom, priests to his [God and Father]-yes, to him be the glory and the might forever. Amen.
Can't even get through the first chapter of Revelation . Before this false pagan trinity teaching crumbles...
(Revelation 3:12,14) NKJV
[He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he shall go out no more. I will write on him the name of My God and the name of the city of My God, the New Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My God. And I will write on him My new name.]
[“And to the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write, ‘These things says the Amen, the Faithful and True Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God:]
×4 (MY GOD) -Firstborn creation of Almighty God Yahweh/Jah ....
The ONE ONLY TRUE GOD (John 17:3)
THE TRUTH IS SIMPLE
Sha'lom Aleichem in Hamashiach
Hallelujah-Praise Jah you people.
The Holy Spirit is the breath of God
@davidmillward3108
Symbolic language?
Does Almighty Jah breathe?
@GolfnMoreclips well He breathed life into Adam
I used to argue religion with a Fundamentalist uncle. A surprising number of arguments were ended with the words "Council of Nicea". Never underestimate the power of editing.
Thumbs down for the annoying background music.
Complaints like this are of a lazy unfocused simpleton.
Complaints like this are of a lazy unfocused simpleton.
Religious people are so confused! It’s ridiculous!😂
How come the other 2 Abrahamic religion view Jesus as a human being while only Christian believe he's a God. Clearly he was born by natural course from Mary and how is this natural birth misinterpreted as the birth of son of God?
It’s just easier to live a life of disobedience and debauchery and have someone else expunge all you sins. It’s called having a scape goat
Because xtians get brainwashed from birth to believe this nonsense.
Background music was way too much. If you can't turn it down, maybe pick a song that doesn't sound like a "top 10 life-hacks" video
Interesting how Arianism fell in the 7th century and then Islam came about also in the 7th century confirming the same message - one God.
Thank Allah for the religion of truth Islam.
Islam was started by a 7th century warlord who murdered hundreds, sold people into slavery, and married a six-year-old.
Too bad it's also the religion of terrorism and antisemitism
Trinitarianism is monotheism. Arianism isn’t monotheism. Why? Well Arianism teaches that the Father and Son are not co-equal. Arius argued that the Son was created by the Father. Jesus is seen as divine but not equal with the Father. Therefore, according to Arianism, the Father and the Son are two distinct and separate divine beings. Whereas the Trinity, They are united in nature and are One Being, One God. As for Islam, there has been many religions that were revealed by an “angel of light” so what makes Muhammad’s revelation true and not another revelation like Joseph Smith’s? Arianism fell before the 7th century by the way.
Islam - founded by a warlord who tried to rewrite the Bible, slaughtered hundreds, sold people into slavery, and married a 6-year-old... all according to Islamic sources.