Yeah I was searching all my other open windows for the annoying one playing that music 😅 Also off topic but how far is casual dress going to go? I was just watching a paleontologist speaking in sweats and t-shirt In a few years people are going to be hosting news channels sitting on the john, in their underwear or bathrobes I imagine lol
Why do all American youtubers have to have LOUD aggravating music. I've missed out on many wonderful videos because of this. Such a shame. Please know we are here for what you are saying. That's enough.
I'm an American and I agree with you, the audio is terrible in this production. Seems it's to keep your attention on the conversation during the hard rock.
The term "It doesn't make an iota's worth of difference" comes from the Arian/Trinitarian controversy. Trinitarians believe that God the Son was of the same nature as the God the Father. Arians believed that God the Son was of "like nature" with God the Father. The Greek word for "same nature" is "homousious" and the word for "like nature" was "homoiusious." The only difference was the letter "i" - in Greek, "iota." Many in society didn't see the difference.
And the pharoahs were called "son of God" and considered themselves God, Son of God, and with the spirit of God. You're so confused. Jesus was Pharoah and wanted to free Hebrews from slavery. The Hebrews just. Didn't. Get. It.
Don’t you find it ironic to say that “the council did not decide on codification of the Bible” and 2 minutes later proceed to say that “the council labeled the alternative as heresy, ordered ever other version burned and owners to be put to death”. Is that not a contradiction?
Thank You for this. I have often heard the idea that the Council of Nicaea deternmined what Books would become Canon so this is insightful. On the flip side the "music" of this video is horrible, too loud, and distracting (my opinion). Still, I Appreciate you Clarifying this topic
Was the councils of hippo and Carthage in North Africa that ratified the New Testament books. However, this wasn't an ecumenical council but rather a local one. The standard canon was handed down through the tradition of the church, which was unwritten practice. Some churches had slight variants in their canons.
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The video is good and informative, but the background music kills it for me. You’ve got hyped up music that sounds like it’s primed for a sports package video, not a historical mini documentary. Completely takes one out of the video
When Jesus had been baptized, he immediately rose from the water and a voice was heard from the heavens, which said: "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. " Who is who? God speaks from heaven to God standing on the ground? Mikael Lyngvig.
How is it possible that so many people doesn't even put questions about the quality of the Bible ?? Do you guys know from what books was the Bible written? It was written from copies of another copies and again from another copies...... Do you really believe the authenticity of those copies ?? Are we sure that nothing's been changed?? It is written in about 800-900 years, so many different authors, so many contradictions in the Bible .... Don't you guys see all this ?? For me personally I think that the most of people think that someone will forgive them at some point , but the truth is that unfortunately other .... At least try to read other gospel about Jesus and his teachings, not just the Bible . Maybe you will get also what Jesus teachings are about.... He's teaching about the mind .... About how to change ur mindset.... Anyway the opinions are all different so.... I wish you all good luck ❤
@@uchennanwogu2142 Jesus and the Bible CONSTANTLY refer to Him as "the Son of God" "who thought it NOT ROBBERY TO BE EQUAL TO GOD" making Him divine. He also CONSTANTLY was talking about His "Father" cementing the idea that they are TWO DIFFERENT BEINGS just as I and MY father are two distinct different beings.
I found myself nodding in agreement with the clear and well-done presentation, untangling the myth from the history of the Council of Nicaea. However, I started cackling like a lunatic at comparing Comptus to Computo from the Legion of Superheroes and Adventure comics. That's some 12th-level nerd-flex, there. Well done, sir. Well done.
This was surprisingly well researched and nuanced I’m a biblical scholar and I was waiting for something much much worse than this but it is generally quite well seen and delivered
That's because he sugar coated all the killings and what really happened to so many people for not believing what they decided was scriptures out of the 24 thousand,, no two are identical by the way, you would know as some one study them
@@anthonycarmine9953 You should really do some of your own research into this, you’d see that it had nothing to do with the canonization of scripture (which books should be included or excluded). The council was called to address the Arianism heresy, stop getting your historical knowledge from Dan Brown novels.
When did the Catholics decide on their cannon and were arguments for this cannon made at the Council of Nicea? If so, then it’s not a myth that canonization was discussed at the Council of Nicea.
No, arguments about the Canon were not made at Nicea, it was merely about whether Jesus was God or just a secondary creator of the Universe. Besides, the Gospels were already settled way before Constantine was born.
Nicea is now Iznik, west of Istanbul, it's a great place to visit. It still has it's town walls and aquaduct. A small town with very friendly locals and not overrun by tourists.
The monumental work “History of the Byzantine Empire: Vol. 1: Constantine to the Crusades” and “History of the Byzantine Empire: Vol. 2: From the Crusades to the Fall of the Empire”, of Alexander Alexandrovich Vasiliev (an expert Byzantinist), is considered one of the best accounts on the Greek legacy of Byzantine history and culture. Truly, masterpieces.
Been studying this council since I was 16, always found it interesting. I do have my own opinions and beliefs on what the council is responsible for with the ancient Egyptians but I’ll be mindful/respectful to peoples belief.
_For a Father to witness the denial, torture and death of His own son is The Greatest of Sacrifice he can make. Ask any Father here on Earth. For a Son to Rise up in Freedom & Love and Choose to make a sacrifice this great is a Father's greatest honor & a son's greatest glory._ _____________________________ Constantine was No Christian. Constantine and his clever politicking while passing "laws" against the primary teachings of Christ just as Paul and Christ emphatically warned the new Christian church did so to stop the fighting & persecution. He worshiped Pluto and Saturn yet was the "Christian (???)" emperor who passed new Views & teachings thus adopted "law". _"Worship our way or be brutally persecuted and tortured; even burned alive!"_ A year after The First Council of Nicaea Constantine had his wife and son murdered. Nice guy. It was Constantine who passed a law voted by various bishops; many involved in mystic views - that Christ and Elohim & the Spirit were one single sentient being. Ironic that this view has a very deep pagan Greek polytheistic origin. Prior to the The First Council of Nicaea, The "Aryan" view was the accepted view for hundreds of years. Oh and btw when Constantine decided to become baptized _(on his death bed because that way he believed he would not be held accountable for his many past sins);_ The Bishop who baptized him was Aryan. The original Christian founders were Jews and they repeatedly admonished future generations of the "last days" to "get out of Babylon (the great)" because we are *in* Babylon the great aka False teachings or the doctrines of men. Then move on to Easter and Sunday and Saturday, Hell Fire etc - just some of many pagan doctrines that Paul warned would creep into the Church. And tell me why was John's first vision regarding the degradation of the Church and it's teachings? Why would God judge the Church so harshly if innocent? Why are there page after page of denunciations regarding the state of the Church and teachings found w/i the words spoken by Elohim Himself then recorded by the likes of Isiah or Ezekiel or Daniel and again for this very hour or generation? There are 3 full pages side by side in Ezekiel alone of how poorly the average pastor and self proclaimed prophet would behave in this very hour and all the false teachings therein. The Trinity is the oldest pagan doctrine around, as old as Nimrod. And All the prophets in unison say that 90% of the pastors today will be teaching false doctrine. John echos this in his vision on the Isl of patmos. The church is corrupt. "The Reformation" did reform but failed to restore the simple purity of the redemptive message via the Christ through the prophets. Read the first 3 denunciations of the church. At the end of all three - _Elohim speaks in threes for emphasis_ - it states (in a nutshell) that the one who clearly sees the sins of the Church will be written in the book of life. Jesus first created and Beloved son of Elohim; our true Risen King currently Sits at the Right hand of Himself? Yeshua is the first created being "first son" within our reality as we understand it. Elohim then created all the angels. Yeshua/Jesus is the very seed of Creation Himself. (Read the first few chapters of Hebrews - use a good translation - then read the Septuagint - that is if you are brave enough to take the red pill.). He is the only angelic being able to create. All things (w/i our reality) are created by Him, through Him and for Him. He holds all the Adamic and Angelic DNA. There exist 12 distinct types; Jesus being the Archetype. This is exactly how Jesus was able to be born of the tribe of Judah when Mary was not. Yeshua used the living spirit and power of Elohim to create with Elohim's approval and authority. Jesus was full man/human when He walked the Earth thus in his success proved Satan's claims as false. He facilitated His father's life sustaining spirit to aid Him - to Heal others etc. He is the first fruit of many (to come). Peter, John, Paul were able to access Elohim's spirit as well with the same power later but not until after Jesus finished His commission. To quote Tozer in a nutshell "The Trinity; the greatest Mystery never contested"
Independent board game publisher Hollandspiele just put out a new game called Nicaea about this very topic! It does a great job modeling the political opportunism at the heart if the First Nicene Council's theological debates. Worth noting that the production value may not be what you'd expect from a game at its price point, but it's worth it for the gameplay and to support a great independent publisher.
10:15 Need proof for the claim that Christians were forbidden and persecuted in a targeted and wide spread way by the Roman Empire, which seems to be the insinuation. Yes I am aware of the Wikipedia article on the topic of Christian persecution, but the time period in question there cited sporadic and localized incidents, such as Nero. But the claim that all Christians were forbidden and persecuted sustaining over many years and systematically by the Roman empire before Constantine is a dubious one.
The first council picking what books are in the Bible was the 382 Council of Rome. Then the 393 Synod of Hippo, 397 Council of Carthage, 1445 Encyclical Council of Florence and then the 1563 Council of Trent. Each one had the same books in them and included the Deuterocanonical books.
So far as I know, only Orthodoxy follows the agreed upon conclusions of the 7 councils. Every other body either ignores (see all protestants) or adds (hello, Rome!) what suits them personally.
@@GopnikVlad The Orthodox do not have the authority to call an Ecumenical Council. They need the pope or an emperor crowned by the pope. That’s why we have more councils, because we have someone with the authority to call one.
Arian was an African bishop of Serapis the Christ from Libya and they were all arguing over what this creature was. Jesus was technically incarnated with the invention of the letter J. And that doesn't happen for a couple of hundred of years after the Council on Nicaea.
It's nice to be able to deliver using critiquing not insulting or flattery for sure. But nobody has to respect the ideology. It's says things like Israel need only ask and smash us like pottery, crush us with a rod of iron and "inherit" all our lands. Nah man.. it's arrogant as hell to tell people we have to respect talking about genociding us and stealing everything we own. Or when Yahweh says he'll gather EVERY nation to Jerusalem and have their houses sacked and women raped. (12 is marriage age according to him) Absolutely nobody has to "respect" that. I won't be told to respect global gang rape of women and potentially 12 yr Olds.
Shouldn't he be critical of his own church? That star is the one star of Venus , it has nothing to do with Judaism. Anyway, you have the divine spark and you should always trust yourself first.
Correction on Easter. They didn't change the date of Easter. They changed the celebration of the Resurrection from occurring at Passover to occurring at Easter. Easter was already a Roman holiday to celebrate the goddess of fertility Ishtar, this is why its associated with bunnies. What they changed was that it would be the celebration of the resurrection instead of Ishtar, and instead of celebrating that at Passover
No, this is not true. Debate over the date to celebrate the resurrection first arose in the time of Polycarp and Victor I of Rome. Apparently, the apostle John had taught his disciples in Asia Minor to worship on Nisan 14th according to the Jewish calendar while Paul and Peter had instructed the Roman Christians to celebrate on the rotating date now used so it would always fall on a Sunday. Romans did not worship Ishtar. Ishtar was a Mesopotamian goddess. The closest approximation in Rome would have been Venus. The name "easter" is actual an English problem that had nothing to do with the Romans. Proto-Germanic speakers had a month named after the goddess Ēostre which matched up with the rotating dates of the resurrection celebration, thus the name "Easter" in English.
@@DestinyAwaitsChannel No writing attributed to Peter or Paul teaches this, but it was considered part of apostolic tradition fairly early on. Since Peter and Paul were regarded as the founders of the Roman church, it is reasonable to assume they were the originators, although the claim could be disputed and is likely more nuanced than this. Eusebius’ Church History - Book 5, chapters 23-24, discusses the controversy in detail. I'd provide you a link, but RUclips likes to delete comments with links. Paste the reference in your browser, and you should be able to find the text.
@@LightForger How can you believe in the trinity?? Revelation 1:1 A revelation by Jesus Christ, which [God] gave him, to show his slaves.. Revelation 1:6 and he made us to be a kingdom, priests to his [God and Father]-yes, to him be the glory and the might forever. Amen. Can't even get through the first chapter of Revelation . Before this false pagan trinity teaching crumbles... Hallelujah-Praise Jah you people.
@@redredmane5544 please tell me what you are talking about? Jah, Yah, YHWH-YAHWEH , Jehovah is the personal name of Almighty God the Father Creator of the Universe The name likely means (He causes to become) Meaning He becomes or can do- anything to accomplish his will.. Are you a Bible reader? You don't know this? Hallelujah-Praise Jah you people.
There was no Orthodox. The council itself was a search for Orthodoxy. The gospel of John just says that Jesus was with God from the beginning. That does not specifically state that Jesus is eternal, but that Jesus was with God from the beginning. It could be the beginning of the creation of Earth.
Jesus says the Father and I are one. Jesus says that everything the Father has He gives to the Son. Jesus says before abraham was I Am. I Am was yahwehs self-designation. There are plenty of texts showing Jesus' equality with the Father.
Are you very sure that the trinity was established well in the Christian church before and the Christians were shocked to know that Arian was teaching differently? 🤔🤔 Bcz Nowhere in the bible we could find the word Trinity. It seems that Constantine was the one who introduced Trinity
Yes he did because he himself was a pegan believer he believed in Sol Inctivus .. Apollo and all the pegan God's.. then when he saw the rise of Christianity he saw the chance to unify both beliefs. You can't tell ppl tht a person tht was once a pegan believer who had power to choose wht is to be worshiped had no bias
The word trinity isn’t in the bible you are correct but throughout both old and New Testament there is proper doctrine proving that God Is one being but 3 distinct persons known as God the Father who is fully God but isn’t The Son or the Holy Spirit, God The Son who is Fully God but isn’t God the Father or The Holy Spirit. And the Holy Spirit who is Fully God But also isn’t God the Father or God the Son. Yet they are the Same God but different Persons.
@@nathanyoung2829 yeah verses that are unaccounted for that the church decided to put in the bible and rule out any gospel that didn't fit their criteria. Like the gospel of Philip or Mary Magdalene ..why?
@@nathanyoung2829trinity does not make any logical sense. Which is why people who spout it always reverts to the theory as “mystery” or “cant be explained”. The mental gymnastic is insane. Unitarian is simple and makes sense. It’s quite blasphemous to think God the creator has others equal to him. Jesus was super clear in saying that he’s not good but only God is.
The fact that the church thought that the Son could not be a creation of God due to John Chapter 1v1 is totally unreasonable. The word (or Son) was in the beginning. The beginning of what? God is eternal and had no beginning. The book of Revelation, written by the same apostle John in chapter 3 and verse 14 tells us that the Son (Identified as then faithful and true witness) was the beginning of creation BY God. So, the beginning mentioned in John 1;1 is the beginning of creation. The son is quite obviously the firstborn (brought forth, created) of all creation. The first thing made by the Father. Everything makes sense in the koine Greek when we realize that the Son is created. Divine yes, but created.
Yes, this is and was obvious. The council of Nicaea was likely political theatrics and the result was determined well before its conclusion. Constatine's Church clearly had two main objectives; 1) differentiate Christianity and Judaism and 2) incorporate more Greek philosophy into scripture. The cosubstantiation of Jesus and the Trinity accomplishes both of these goals, in spite of direct scripture. To Constantine and radical Greek bishops, Ariansim was simply too Jewish to be considered uniquely Roman.
@@Chadwick-k7x interesting comment. It does seem that the church of the third/fourth century was doing everything possible to free itself of being a sect of judaism. To the extent of corrupting the very nature of God.
Who knew the other Abrahamic religions believe the only true god is the father. Islam and Judaism believes theres one god and no other persons! You must wonder why Most of Christianity is the only anomaly between the 3 Abrahamic religions? Does that mean the Jews in the old testament were wrong this whole time believing for only one god? Lol
@@paulploy6830 But those tools are one in accord and is not one person its the same as 1 Corinthians 3:6-11 He who plants and he who waters are one, and each will receive his wages according to his labor. For we are God's fellow workers. You are God's field, God's building. These are two people referring to 2 of the apostles are you going to say that they are one in a literal sense? Or are they one because they are doing the same task at hand? If 2 farmers have 2 different jobs but their job is to grow a plant they are one in accord. Not one in person
At 8:40 - Melitius of Lycopolis was not "insubordinate" to the bishop of Alexandria. There was no heirarchy above the local church before Nicaea created the Pentarchy, when the Roman State the Bishop of Alexandira over the bishops of Egypt. Melitius was part of the controversy with Arius, because in the previous generation, Peter unilaterally excommunicated Arius when he was young as a way of attacking Melitius for siding with the Novatian "rebaptizers" after Cyprian and the Romans started forging doctrines around the idea of denying Christ under persecution and then asking for forgiveness when the persecution ended. Novatus said the Church did not have authority to readmit those who denied Christ publicly, but the sect eventually settled on readmittance if the people were rebaptized, because it was literally the 1st generation after child baptism became a thing, and they were essentually saying they weren't really born again. Cyprian and the bishop of Rome contested this as a heresy more to preserve Cyrpians own office, becaue he fled from Carthage when the persecution started, and then tried to make up rules of readmittance, claiming that the Roman Catholic "mother church" baptism was always efficacious. He even added the term "again" to John 3:5 to claim that one is "born again of water and the spirit," to make the case, which Jerome added to the Latin Vulgate, all to prop up the false doctrine of baptismal regeneration. Melitius and many others sided with Novatus, who was elected by the elders of Rome to be the next bishop, while his rival who sided with Cyprian was elected by popular vote, many of whom had relatives that denied Christ that they wanted readmitted into the Church, while Novatus was saying this was not permitted. The bishop of Alexandira, (Dionysus I believe) also fled when persecution started, so he naturally sided with Cyprian, leading to his successor Peter condeming Melitius for taking the opposite stance. This claim was based on the idea of the regional Synod at Carthage being authoritative over the churches of Egypt, rather than the bishop of Alexandria, who attended the conference. But the Alexandrian bishops were always pushing for more power, which led to them eventually beating the bishop of Constantinople to death when someone from a rival sect was elected. This led to the Council of Carthage, which was largely about putting Alexandria in its palce. The early church was a train wreck folks. There was nothing authoritative in the ecumenical councils. Stand under the Word of God. Nothing more.
You know what I love in videos about history and important events? Loud guitar music and some dude standing in a room, looking straight at me like I wore a thong to the gym.
It's interesting that all these Videos about this topic never says anything about what The Creator of all thing says. When everyone realizes that The Creator has no problem letting his creation know exactly what he wants. Man only adds confusion and division. This video was great showing how even then man's perception of Christ caused death, division and confusion back then and it hasn't changed to this day.
Good coverage. It is interesting to note that Arianism is very similar to Islam in it's belief of God and Jesus. Christianity and Islam have very similar history and beliefs (including their respect for Jesus) but the biggest difference is that Christians are trinitarians and Muslims are unitarians believing in only 1 indivisible god with Jesus being one of his major prophets.
It always seemed strange to hear the phrase "begotten, not made" in the Nicean Creed in Catholic Church. Clearly it was just as important to them what you did NOT believe as what you believed.
The music really takes away from the presentation. I'm very excited about the content but I literally am turning this video off and haven't made it through a quarter of the video because it's so distracting. The music doesn't compliment the context or content.
We don't know what they did or did not do, as they did not record the conversations between the emperor and the bishops. He ordered the church to attend, and they hunted those who did not go. We do have letters sent home, and what they describe gives one chill as to how they saw the emperor. It was a significant turning point; the church became the church of Rome and not that of a Hebrew Messiah. One of the things that did happen is that the emperor ordered the creation of 100 codexes of the books of the Bible, and they were identical, hence standardizing what was used and approved by the emperor...
One of the most topics I believe is missed was they didn't know where to place their capital of the faith. Emperor Hadrian having hated Jews so much had their cities and history erased. Constantine's mother was dispatched to find Jerusalem and the place of the true cross. At the time "Jerusalem" was a village, home to Asiatic Jewish tribes. Coincidently the area was found to be a holy site and became a power base for Constantine in the most ideal location. What if it wasn't the true Jerusalem though?
The history illustrates the developmental process that shaped our modern bible--lots of time passes before things were agreed upon, and even then, some disagreements remained through Luther's day. It is interesting how such bright lines were drawn during the "development" of the Canon. It was a very human process that included passionate positions by people who were living hundreds of years after the time of Jesus. Today, we don't even agree on what politicians say on recorded videos!
Notice the 'mitres' the bishops are all wearing? what is their origin? They were exactly the same as the head dresses worn by the priests of Dagon the 'Fish god' ( see 'the pagan origin of the mitre' in google). Harldy fitting for 'Christian' bishops to wear! Just an outward expression of the inward pagan amagamation of beliefs that the council of Nicea introduced to a corrupting church!
The paintings are from centuries after the council. At the council of Nicea miters did not yet exist. We do not see a miter like headdress for bishops before the 11th century, the first small ones probably influenced by the crown of the Byzantine emperor. That is 2000 years after this so called fish God. There is no connection what so ever. This fish god story was invented by a guy in the 19th century with a very bad grasp of history and all he wrote has long been debunked by serious historians.
@@ladydustin7811 Thanks, very informative! Poin taken. However. Please tell me how you feel about men of God wearing elaborate robes e.t.? Can you equate that with all we real about the early Christians. ( I will do more research as to several pagan apendages depicted on church robes. I do know for sure that the 'Chi Rho ( Jesus enitials in Latin) were used by pagan Constantine and adorned to the shields of his warrioirs at the battle of Malvern gate in Rome. It also was displayed on banners that went to areas of the battle to give it more power therre! Christian? I hardly think so!
It seems like the 'church' has screwed around so much with their history that it is impossible to know with certainty what in the world happened. The anonymity of the gospels being attributed by the 'church' to specific people and the unquestioning adherence to that by nearly everyone tells you just how optional and unnecessary 'truth' is.
SO .... WHAT YOU'RE SAYING EXTREMELY CLEARLY AND LOUD IS, the notion that "Jesus is a God, is in fact, man-made and the product of a meeting by religious minded MEN and then co-signed by the state .... and it was determined over 300 years after the supposed death and resurrection of "JESUS" ...... Then the "Bible" was revised for over 800 MORE years for a total of OVER 1100 years ..... GOT IT.
There is a hierarchy in heaven not even Jesus knew the date of the Armageddon Matthew 24:3 While he was sitting upon the Mount of Olives, the disciples approached him privately, saying: “Tell us, When will these things be, and what will be the sign of your presehierarchynce* and of the conclusion* of the system of things?” 36 “Concerning that day and hour+ nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son,* but only the Father.+ 37 For just as the days of Noah+ were, so the presence* of the Son of man will be.+ 38 For as they were in those days before the flood,* eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah+ entered into the ark;+ 39 and they took no note until the flood came and swept them all away,+ so the presence* of the Son of man will be. 40 Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken along and the other be abandoned; 41 two women will be grinding at the hand mill:+ one will be taken along and the other be abandoned.+ 42 Keep on the watch, therefore, because YOU do not know on what day YOUR Lord is coming.
Council of Nicaea changed the Word of God to fit their own agenda. They formed the Trinity which is adding to the Word. Paul spoke about this and said let anyone who adds or takes away from the words in the Bible be accursed. God is One. Jesus is God in a fleshly body. The reason John chapter 1 is correct concerning Jesus is that He always was but not in human form already. he was in the very plan(Word) of God from the beginning. Then it says the Word becomes flesh. Easy to understand that with some revelation
You keep saying “the church” as if there was only 1. There were over 200 locally divergent denominations in the empire at that point and the Council’s main function was to nail down which factions would be the officially recognized ones. Hence the need for the Nicean creed. Christians were still far from the majority in most of the empire. At that point it was really the religion of urban centers. The conservative countryside was still pagan (that word basically means “hick”). The Christians were the gnostic woke cult of the cities who were destroying temples (which were also the libraries) and other cultural institutions in order to reorder the world in their vision. Now they’re the conservative religious faction nearly pushed out of cities and their gnostic outgrowth is acting up in the whole of western culture. Interesting how it rhymes. Oh, and Constantine wasn’t actually converted after his dream because he wasn’t baptized until his death bed. You know, because he had to be absolved of things like murdering family members and killing “heretical” Christian like Arius’ followers.
How come the other 2 Abrahamic religion view Jesus as a human being while only Christian believe he's a God. Clearly he was born by natural course from Mary and how is this natural birth misinterpreted as the birth of son of God?
According to the Catholic Encyclopedia, the Catholic Church changed the baptismal formula from "in the name of Jesus Christ" to "in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit" in the second century. The Catholic Church considers Trinitarian baptisms to be valid, and while other baptismal formulas are acceptable, they must have been performed by a church or person who believes in the Trinity.
The council came together to discuss the divinity of Christ, the conclusion being Jesus Christ was divine & second person of a Godhead. Arianism professed Jesus Christ to be a man but the begotten son of God. God is one.
The 'holy trinity' may well be a coded political message. Begin with the concept of primogeniture, where the eldest son inherits the entire estate when his father dies. Project this to rules of royal succession: The current king is legitimate because he is the first born son of the 'holy ghost', or what is now the ghost of the previous king. The current king's first born son is the legitimate heir to the throne, thus 'the father, the son, and the holy ghost'. Since royal successions were often messy, this was coded in religious terms. A lot of people that 'never understood' the religious doctrine might have assimilated the intended secular meaning without even realizing it.
Wonderful explanation. Many people completely overlooked the fact, that the Bible was written by men, thinking it's a book it fell out of the sky. I was raised a Christian, however I wasn't brainswashed i loved to investigate and I love history. Reading the origins of Christianity made me realize that's it's nothing but words to control the masses
Religion is not Faith. Religion is organized rules created by men in order to worship and reach the divine. Faith is having belief in something you can't see or touch. As for the second comment I live in Canada and we have more Muslims than Christians. Believing in God and Jesus as the Son of God and the Son of Man isn't superstition. It's plain truth. The only place the Church is going is with Jesus when the rapture of the Church occurs. Don't curse and throw out what you clearly lack understanding in.
@@Zantetsuken94 The first Jewish revolt, mithra & the reason why Constantine changed his surname to flavius gives you a better understanding of the council of Nicea. An as a Muslim I believe Jesus peace be upon is a prophet to the lost sheep of Israel. Not the begotten sun of god that's blasphemy!!!!
@@myisden2954 Speaking like a true dictator. Wanting to remove people from freedom to believe in God. Soon, I hope you find that both science and a conscious source (Supreme intellect) responsible for reality go hand in hand.
Council of Laodicea Canon 29 Christians must not judaize by resting on the Sabbath, but must work on that day, rather honouring the Lord's Day; and, if they can, resting then as Christians. But if any shall be found to be judaizers, let them be anathema from Christ.
At 3:11 - I love his definition of "consubstantial." Philosphically accurate but laughably unscriptural. What "stuff" was the Father and Son "made" out of. 🤣🤣 I tried to submit a paper in seminary entitled "God Stuff" about the logical absurdity of the term homoosian (consubstantial), but they refused to let me.
@@theeclectic2919 Exactly! When I die, the last thing I would want to look forward to is going to a giant country club in the sky where everyone is the same! I know that's obviously what a LOT of people want, but it chills me to the bone...
Islam is the only religion of truth. God promised to protest the holy Koran from any corruption. And here we are 1400 years later with people converting to Islam in droves just like the Koran said they would.
If you want to know anything about a Creed that led to depriving people of life and treasure: follow the money. This also applied to the Roman proscriptions, and to many of the inquisitions against wealthy women styling them as witches.
a. Convened by a pagan emperor b. Attended by less than a 3rd of 'biships' c. The bishop of Rome, absent d. The conclusion, insisted on by the Emperor. e. An edict that capital punishment for any disagreeing. f. Held in a summer Roman palace I could go on! How different from the first real Christian council in AD49 in Jerusalem. Please read in Acts 15 for the contrast!
@@ralphgreenwood2469 The FACT this "council" was a trumped up illegitimate meeting coming to conclusions of a few to overthrow Arius and anybody who did not have THEIR beliefs! That's the point!
Did you just say that Jesus was created from the same stuff that created God? Which means something made God ! Which means there was something before God? That created Him? That all is just soooo confusing
What a missed opportunity this video is showing an incomplete picture. Constantine is the main reason Jesus is considered divine today. When voting on the issue of divinity or any new dogma for that matter, the bishops maintained that the only way they knew the Holy Spirit was speaking through them was to come to a unanimous decision. Well when it came to whether Jesus was just a human or more, there were a handful of bishops that would not budge and refused to vote for divinity. So Constantine, eager to consolidate his power in the waning days of the Sol Invictus cult and nearing the end to his own life, decided to basically rig the vote by throwing out the votes of the dissenting bishops and whammo, you suddenly have a unanimous vote to call Jesus divine. Soooo yeah, all that death....based on a rigged vote. I'm sensing a repeating pattern here... Also the formula for finding the date of Easter in any given year is this: Easter falls on the first Sunday after the first full moon following the spring equinox.
Paul wrote his letters about three hundred years before this council and always affirmed that if Jesus wasn’t devine then all christianity would be in vain. He and the rest of the New Testament writers affirm His divinity. But even in the Old Testament like the prophet Isaiah (7:14) writes that Jesus would be Emmanuel, God among us. But then again you’ll believe what ever you want to believe. Peace!
@@fluidikons How did you learn that from seminary? We have early church writings from Irenaues and Justin Martyr that affirm Jesus’ divinity. That’s the first thing they would have taught you at seminary
"Constantine is the main reason Jesus is considered divine today." That is not true. The council was called precisely to address this 'new shoot' of Arian's teaching that was not what had been passed down and taught. The Church, as a whole, absolutely and already believed in the divinity of Christ.
Jesus Christ was always seen as divine, even as a created being. No one says angels aren't divine despite being God's creation, so why would His only begotten Son not be seen as divine?
How can you believe in the trinity?? (Revelation 1:1) [A revelation by Jesus Christ, which [God] gave him, to show his slaves..] Revelation 1:6 and he made us to be a kingdom, priests to his [God and Father]-yes, to him be the glory and the might forever. Amen. Can't even get through the first chapter of Revelation . Before this false pagan trinity teaching crumbles... (Revelation 3:12,14) NKJV [He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he shall go out no more. I will write on him the name of My God and the name of the city of My God, the New Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My God. And I will write on him My new name.] [“And to the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write, ‘These things says the Amen, the Faithful and True Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God:] ×4 (MY GOD) -Firstborn creation of Almighty God Yahweh/Jah .... The ONE ONLY TRUE GOD (John 17:3) THE TRUTH IS SIMPLE Sha'lom Aleichem in Hamashiach Hallelujah-Praise Jah you people.
Without overblown hierarchy (pointy hats), squabbling over opaque minutiae, plus Aramaic and Latin to obscure all the contradictions, Christianity could not exist at all. And they where would they get all that money?
@@bourbonrebel5515Which church? Roman Catholic, Orthodox, Baptist, Episcopalian, Pentecostal, Seventh Day Adventists or Jehovah's Witnesses? How is it possible for the Church not to commit apostasy? Some of these churches differ widely & are apostate! 🙃
I am concerned that we have spent thousands of years studying the Scriptures while the Christian Church in all its many, many incarnations has perpetrated innumerable sins. Just to name one: the Crusades. This in service of a religion that has too often been used by the powerful to increase their own power at the expense of the masses. What if we had used all that effort to better understand the universal aspects of our humanity? Doing that could unite the globe rather than divide us - as we are - into warring tribes based on our respective mythologies? I’ve spent much of my life studying the Bible and the various Christian sects. Given the lack of historical proof and the numerous inconsistencies surrounding the founding of the Christian religion makes its claims of inerrancy highly improbable. What we need is a more inclusive Narrative that can build on our shared humanity. And to do so in a way that improves the odds that we will actually survive as a species. I wonder how we could work together towards that goal?
@@cutebutsadisticable Religion is just humanity's first attempt at controlling people. It's more primitive than organized government, but it still works (unfortunately.)
@@theeclectic2919 blech talk about crude over generalizations. The truth is what you're asking is tantamount to saying "why have any culture?" Since Religion is a function of Culture whereby the collectives of a society venerate the ideals and model of reality that motivate them unto certain ends. Religion is an important function of anthropic reality. Liminality and social psychology all find their drives originated within culture and religion.
The council of nicea met once again recently. Trying to solve one question. Why do so many videos have to have the stupid distracting background noise?
This is so ridiculous and shows that men have long altered words to suit their own agendas, similar to what we're seeing with the word woman being redefined. The word begotten literally means made. Son literally means heir. Christ always made it clear that He was a created being throughout His time on Earth, so Arius was correct. These so-called bishops will be judged harshly for their conspiracy with the pagan king.
Thank you. The Christians here who are agreeing with him are only doing so because he's not telling it like it should be told. He's rewording things to the liking of Christians without calling a spade a spade
as a muslim I'm finding lots of similarities with arius ideas, we also believe Jesus was miraculously born without father and had the ability, with Gods permission to do miracles and spread his word, but hes still one of his creation, and is and will never be equal to the creator
@@aeman2080 Muslims do not believe Jesus is the Savior/Messiah/Christ/Annointed One of the Father. They do not believe he is God's only begotten Son or the King of all Kings. They do not believe we can be spiritually reborn as Christ was through the Holy Spirit. They only believe him to be a mere human prophet when he is the Divine Lord and sole Mediator between humanity and God, currently standing at the right hand of the throne of God- awaiting the day when he will return to exact vengeance and judge us all.
read the 4 Gospels. you will see it make clear over and over, Jesus claims to be God. He took the divine name “I AM” for Himself (John 8:58, from Exodus 3:14).He made Himself equal with God (John 5:18). He claimed that whoever saw Him saw the Father (John 14:9). i recomend reading John chapter 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. "The Word," a translation of the Greek λόγος (logos), is widely interpreted as referring to Jesus, as indicated in other verses later in the same chapter. For example, "the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us" (John 1:14; cf. 1:15, 17)
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Stop the ridiculous sound track. It interferes with what you are trying to say.
Yeah I was searching all my other open windows for the annoying one playing that music 😅
Also off topic but how far is casual dress going to go? I was just watching a paleontologist speaking in sweats and t-shirt
In a few years people are going to be hosting news channels sitting on the john, in their underwear or bathrobes I imagine lol
Agree. After one minute I'm out of here. When will these RUclipsrs get it?
So much of effort is wasted by loud background music.
Sounds like bad 90's video game music
Terrible unnecessary background sounds turned me off
Interesting information about the Nicene Creed. I would LOVE to hear what you have to say without distracting loud noise in the background. 👍👏🙏❤️.
Agree.
I agree
I greatly appreciate you immediately dispelling the myth of how the Bible was codified at the council.
Lol that’s not a myth
@@eccentricbeaut4347, it *is* a myth.
@@tryingnottobeasmartass757 lol yeah no it isn’t… if you think the modern day Bible is how it was from the the Bible back then… you’re a fool
It isn't a myth, it actually happened. This guy is just a christian apologist!
@@tonygrowley5275 Oh, did it really? Your evidence, sir?
Why do all American youtubers have to have LOUD aggravating music. I've missed out on many wonderful videos because of this. Such a shame. Please know we are here for what you are saying. That's enough.
Not quite all of us. Just sayin'.
I'm an American and I agree with you, the audio is terrible in this production. Seems it's to keep your attention on the conversation during the hard rock.
well presented excellent The background instrumental is distracting and makes your script challenged by making some of your facts difficult to hear.
Agreed
The fact that this man having to explain the so-called God of Bible !! God's supposedly holy words is proof there's no God!!!
God cannot be tempted with evil (James 1:13).Jesus was tempted by evil(Matt.4:1-11).If Jesus was God, hoe
how could Jesus be tempted by evil? (Mikael Lyngvig).
Before you say well-done to people you should pull everything he says apart then lay it on a table and see if it's real or a fake.
Great info, well presented... the soundtrack is maddening though.
Love your quality content. Just lower down the background music a bit, please. It's quite distracting.
The term "It doesn't make an iota's worth of difference" comes from the Arian/Trinitarian controversy. Trinitarians believe that God the Son was of the same nature as the God the Father. Arians believed that God the Son was of "like nature" with God the Father. The Greek word for "same nature" is "homousious" and the word for "like nature" was "homoiusious." The only difference was the letter "i" - in Greek, "iota." Many in society didn't see the difference.
And the pharoahs were called "son of God" and considered themselves God, Son of God, and with the spirit of God. You're so confused. Jesus was Pharoah and wanted to free Hebrews from slavery. The Hebrews just. Didn't. Get. It.
I love this kind of trivia. Thanks for being nerdy enough to know about this, lol.
Gee, thanks, mister Peabody!
@@joysoyo2416you’re mixing Jesus with Moses now. There’s more than 1000 years between Jesus and Moses freeing his people from Egypt.
It's all fake anyway
Fair presentation. I appreciate the truthfulness of the video. Earned my subscription
Don’t you find it ironic to say that “the council did not decide on codification of the Bible” and 2 minutes later proceed to say that “the council labeled the alternative as heresy, ordered ever other version burned and owners to be put to death”. Is that not a contradiction?
He is referring to what Arius wrote, not any copy of the Bible.
He was referring to canonization of specific books in the Bible. The burning refers to Arius’ writings.
A refreshing, absolutey NOW commentary. It is fun to hear the sacred absurdities presented in such a cogent way.
The background music is distracting 😮
Thank You for this. I have often heard the idea that the Council of Nicaea deternmined what Books would become Canon so this is insightful. On the flip side the "music" of this video is horrible, too loud, and distracting (my opinion). Still, I Appreciate you Clarifying this topic
Was the councils of hippo and Carthage in North Africa that ratified the New Testament books. However, this wasn't an ecumenical council but rather a local one. The standard canon was handed down through the tradition of the church, which was unwritten practice. Some churches had slight variants in their canons.
I feel like as Christians we should be teaching more of this
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They want to continue their lies that's why they are now Banning Books 📚 in the USA 🇺🇸 instead of banning Guns of violence.*
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Catholic church has been teaching this since the council. All of the bishops mentioned were of the catholic church
@@DUZCO10 Trinity is blasphemy.
@@eliasziad7864 I (Jesus Christ) am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.”
Revelation 22:13
go research saint spyridon the wonder worker, holy spirit literally proclaimed the trinity @@eliasziad7864
The video is good and informative, but the background music kills it for me. You’ve got hyped up music that sounds like it’s primed for a sports package video, not a historical mini documentary. Completely takes one out of the video
When Jesus had been baptized, he immediately rose from the water and a voice was heard from the heavens, which said: "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. " Who is who? God speaks from heaven to God standing on the ground? Mikael Lyngvig.
One of many great points but unfortunately not enough for the blind to see and the deaf to hear. Hearing they hear not, seeing they see not. JC pbuh
Isaiah 9:6, Jesus is God
How is it possible that so many people doesn't even put questions about the quality of the Bible ?? Do you guys know from what books was the Bible written? It was written from copies of another copies and again from another copies...... Do you really believe the authenticity of those copies ?? Are we sure that nothing's been changed?? It is written in about 800-900 years, so many different authors, so many contradictions in the Bible .... Don't you guys see all this ?? For me personally I think that the most of people think that someone will forgive them at some point , but the truth is that unfortunately other .... At least try to read other gospel about Jesus and his teachings, not just the Bible . Maybe you will get also what Jesus teachings are about.... He's teaching about the mind .... About how to change ur mindset.... Anyway the opinions are all different so.... I wish you all good luck ❤
@@uchennanwogu2142 Jesus and the Bible CONSTANTLY refer to Him as "the Son of God" "who thought it NOT ROBBERY TO BE EQUAL TO GOD" making Him divine. He also CONSTANTLY was talking about His "Father" cementing the idea that they are TWO DIFFERENT BEINGS just as I and MY father are two distinct different beings.
@@larrydewein You’re a heretic, he states he and the Father are one. No one taught your heretical beliefs until now.
I found myself nodding in agreement with the clear and well-done presentation, untangling the myth from the history of the Council of Nicaea.
However, I started cackling like a lunatic at comparing Comptus to Computo from the Legion of Superheroes and Adventure comics.
That's some 12th-level nerd-flex, there.
Well done, sir. Well done.
This was surprisingly well researched and nuanced
I’m a biblical scholar and I was waiting for something much much worse than this but it is generally quite well seen and delivered
Yes, I'm also getting that impression from this series of videos. It's a pleasant feeling.
biblical scholar is an oxymoron! lol
That's because he sugar coated all the killings and what really happened to so many people for not believing what they decided was scriptures out of the 24 thousand,, no two are identical by the way, you would know as some one study them
@@anthonycarmine9953 You should really do some of your own research into this, you’d see that it had nothing to do with the canonization of scripture (which books should be included or excluded). The council was called to address the Arianism heresy, stop getting your historical knowledge from Dan Brown novels.
You're a biblical scholar? What's ur name? I woukd like to research you
Surprisingly well researched video.
When did the Catholics decide on their cannon and were arguments for this cannon made at the Council of Nicea? If so, then it’s not a myth that canonization was discussed at the Council of Nicea.
No, arguments about the Canon were not made at Nicea, it was merely about whether Jesus was God or just a secondary creator of the Universe. Besides, the Gospels were already settled way before Constantine was born.
surprisingly well researched.
He was reading a script, he dosent know what he is talking about .
Nicea is now Iznik, west of Istanbul, it's a great place to visit. It still has it's town walls and aquaduct. A small town with very friendly locals and not overrun by tourists.
Poetic justice. Islam resolved all the paradoxes imposed by the emperor at Nicea.
The monumental work “History of the Byzantine Empire: Vol. 1: Constantine to the Crusades” and “History of the Byzantine Empire: Vol. 2: From the Crusades to the Fall of the Empire”, of Alexander Alexandrovich Vasiliev (an expert Byzantinist), is considered one of the best accounts on the Greek legacy of Byzantine history and culture.
Truly, masterpieces.
Been studying this council since I was 16, always found it interesting. I do have my own opinions and beliefs on what the council is responsible for with the ancient Egyptians but I’ll be mindful/respectful to peoples belief.
I’d love to hear about it! Forget offending someone.
@@YoungKalei facts bro let's hear it! i'm religious myself but idc, discussion is the way to knowledge and truth!
_For a Father to witness the denial, torture and death of His own son is The Greatest of Sacrifice he can make. Ask any Father here on Earth. For a Son to Rise up in Freedom & Love and Choose to make a sacrifice this great is a Father's greatest honor & a son's greatest glory._
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Constantine was No Christian. Constantine and his clever politicking while passing "laws" against the primary teachings of Christ just as Paul and Christ emphatically warned the new Christian church did so to stop the fighting & persecution. He worshiped Pluto and Saturn yet was the "Christian (???)" emperor who passed new Views & teachings thus adopted "law". _"Worship our way or be brutally persecuted and tortured; even burned alive!"_ A year after The First Council of Nicaea Constantine had his wife and son murdered. Nice guy.
It was Constantine who passed a law voted by various bishops; many involved in mystic views - that Christ and Elohim & the Spirit were one single sentient being. Ironic that this view has a very deep pagan Greek polytheistic origin. Prior to the The First Council of Nicaea, The "Aryan" view was the accepted view for hundreds of years. Oh and btw when Constantine decided to become baptized _(on his death bed because that way he believed he would not be held accountable for his many past sins);_ The Bishop who baptized him was Aryan.
The original Christian founders were Jews and they repeatedly admonished future generations of the "last days" to "get out of Babylon (the great)" because we are *in* Babylon the great aka False teachings or the doctrines of men. Then move on to Easter and Sunday and Saturday, Hell Fire etc - just some of many pagan doctrines that Paul warned would creep into the Church. And tell me why was John's first vision regarding the degradation of the Church and it's teachings? Why would God judge the Church so harshly if innocent? Why are there page after page of denunciations regarding the state of the Church and teachings found w/i the words spoken by Elohim Himself then recorded by the likes of Isiah or Ezekiel or Daniel and again for this very hour or generation? There are 3 full pages side by side in Ezekiel alone of how poorly the average pastor and self proclaimed prophet would behave in this very hour and all the false teachings therein.
The Trinity is the oldest pagan doctrine around, as old as Nimrod. And All the prophets in unison say that 90% of the pastors today will be teaching false doctrine. John echos this in his vision on the Isl of patmos. The church is corrupt. "The Reformation" did reform but failed to restore the simple purity of the redemptive message via the Christ through the prophets.
Read the first 3 denunciations of the church. At the end of all three - _Elohim speaks in threes for emphasis_ - it states (in a nutshell) that the one who clearly sees the sins of the Church will be written in the book of life.
Jesus first created and Beloved son of Elohim; our true Risen King currently Sits at the Right hand of Himself? Yeshua is the first created being "first son" within our reality as we understand it. Elohim then created all the angels. Yeshua/Jesus is the very seed of Creation Himself. (Read the first few chapters of Hebrews - use a good translation - then read the Septuagint - that is if you are brave enough to take the red pill.). He is the only angelic being able to create. All things (w/i our reality) are created by Him, through Him and for Him. He holds all the Adamic and Angelic DNA. There exist 12 distinct types; Jesus being the Archetype. This is exactly how Jesus was able to be born of the tribe of Judah when Mary was not. Yeshua used the living spirit and power of Elohim to create with Elohim's approval and authority. Jesus was full man/human when He walked the Earth thus in his success proved Satan's claims as false. He facilitated His father's life sustaining spirit to aid Him - to Heal others etc. He is the first fruit of many (to come). Peter, John, Paul were able to access Elohim's spirit as well with the same power later but not until after Jesus finished His commission.
To quote Tozer in a nutshell "The Trinity; the greatest Mystery never contested"
@@YoungKaleiI'm not religious but I would also like some more knowledge.
Yeah if Jesus has been mindful/respectful to people's belief I believed He will not die on the cross & disobey the Father will.
Independent board game publisher Hollandspiele just put out a new game called Nicaea about this very topic! It does a great job modeling the political opportunism at the heart if the First Nicene Council's theological debates. Worth noting that the production value may not be what you'd expect from a game at its price point, but it's worth it for the gameplay and to support a great independent publisher.
I was pleasantly surprised! An even-handed video on a touchy subject.
What Nicaea did not finish was accomplished at Chalcedon.
10:15 Need proof for the claim that Christians were forbidden and persecuted in a targeted and wide spread way by the Roman Empire, which seems to be the insinuation. Yes I am aware of the Wikipedia article on the topic of Christian persecution, but the time period in question there cited sporadic and localized incidents, such as Nero. But the claim that all Christians were forbidden and persecuted sustaining over many years and systematically by the Roman empire before Constantine is a dubious one.
Why is Marcion of Sinope not mentioned?
He wasn't alive in 325 A.D.
I've always wondered. Thanks for specificity.
The first council picking what books are in the Bible was the 382 Council of Rome. Then the 393 Synod of Hippo, 397 Council of Carthage, 1445 Encyclical Council of Florence and then the 1563 Council of Trent. Each one had the same books in them and included the Deuterocanonical books.
So far as I know, only Orthodoxy follows the agreed upon conclusions of the 7 councils. Every other body either ignores (see all protestants) or adds (hello, Rome!) what suits them personally.
@@GopnikVlad The Orthodox do not have the authority to call an Ecumenical Council. They need the pope or an emperor crowned by the pope. That’s why we have more councils, because we have someone with the authority to call one.
and this is based on...?@@paulmualdeave5063
and this is based on...?@@paulmualdeave5063
@@paulmualdeave5063 based on?
Arian was an African bishop of Serapis the Christ from Libya and they were all arguing over what this creature was. Jesus was technically incarnated with the invention of the letter J. And that doesn't happen for a couple of hundred of years after the Council on Nicaea.
Excellent objective presentation of a religion. I personally appreciate the Historicity of it all. Ubuntu Ma'at Ase'🙏🏿
I appreciate that you are capable of discussing the historicity of the Christian church(es) without looking down your nose at the faith.
It's nice to be able to deliver using critiquing not insulting or flattery for sure.
But nobody has to respect the ideology.
It's says things like Israel need only ask and smash us like pottery, crush us with a rod of iron and "inherit" all our lands.
Nah man.. it's arrogant as hell to tell people we have to respect talking about genociding us and stealing everything we own.
Or when Yahweh says he'll gather EVERY nation to Jerusalem and have their houses sacked and women raped. (12 is marriage age according to him)
Absolutely nobody has to "respect" that.
I won't be told to respect global gang rape of women and potentially 12 yr Olds.
Shouldn't he be critical of his own church?
That star is the one star of Venus , it has nothing to do with Judaism.
Anyway, you have the divine spark and you should always trust yourself first.
❤ Faith is inside not in a book of Men. Namaste
If you trust self you will be deceived into believing a lie, trust God's word not self or church tradition
@@j.t.whitestone4985 trusting what some ancient dudes say is “god’s word” is literally living a lie. Wake up.
Stop the music!!!!
I agree. Ruins the whole delivery
The music is perfect 👌🏽
I agree. How annoying. And it distracts from my ability to listen
Agree! Extremely disruptive. 😖
@ infuriating. Where did they get the idea that music must be played constantly throughout this. Since when does that help a presentation?
Correction on Easter. They didn't change the date of Easter. They changed the celebration of the Resurrection from occurring at Passover to occurring at Easter. Easter was already a Roman holiday to celebrate the goddess of fertility Ishtar, this is why its associated with bunnies. What they changed was that it would be the celebration of the resurrection instead of Ishtar, and instead of celebrating that at Passover
No, this is not true. Debate over the date to celebrate the resurrection first arose in the time of Polycarp and Victor I of Rome. Apparently, the apostle John had taught his disciples in Asia Minor to worship on Nisan 14th according to the Jewish calendar while Paul and Peter had instructed the Roman Christians to celebrate on the rotating date now used so it would always fall on a Sunday. Romans did not worship Ishtar. Ishtar was a Mesopotamian goddess. The closest approximation in Rome would have been Venus. The name "easter" is actual an English problem that had nothing to do with the Romans. Proto-Germanic speakers had a month named after the goddess Ēostre which matched up with the rotating dates of the resurrection celebration, thus the name "Easter" in English.
@@andyontheinternet5777Can you tell me where Paul instructed the Roman Catholic church to celebrate Easter on Sunday?
@@DestinyAwaitsChannel No writing attributed to Peter or Paul teaches this, but it was considered part of apostolic tradition fairly early on. Since Peter and Paul were regarded as the founders of the Roman church, it is reasonable to assume they were the originators, although the claim could be disputed and is likely more nuanced than this.
Eusebius’ Church History - Book 5, chapters 23-24, discusses the controversy in detail.
I'd provide you a link, but RUclips likes to delete comments with links. Paste the reference in your browser, and you should be able to find the text.
@@andyontheinternet5777people often use the false etymology of ishtar because it sounds like Easter. The 2 have nothing to do with each other
Modern version of Arianism: Jehovah's Witnesses.
Those Heretics
That would be an insult to arians.
@@LightForger How can you believe in the trinity??
Revelation 1:1
A revelation by Jesus Christ, which [God] gave him, to show his slaves..
Revelation 1:6
and he made us to be a kingdom, priests to his [God and Father]-yes, to him be the glory and the might forever. Amen.
Can't even get through the first chapter of Revelation . Before this false pagan trinity teaching crumbles...
Hallelujah-Praise Jah you people.
@@GolfnMoreclips: That’s GOD, not “Jah.”
@@redredmane5544 please tell me what you are talking about?
Jah, Yah, YHWH-YAHWEH , Jehovah is the personal name of Almighty God the Father Creator of the Universe
The name likely means (He causes to become) Meaning He becomes or can do- anything to accomplish his will..
Are you a Bible reader? You don't know this?
Hallelujah-Praise Jah you people.
There was no Orthodox. The council itself was a search for Orthodoxy. The gospel of John just says that Jesus was with God from the beginning. That does not specifically state that Jesus is eternal, but that Jesus was with God from the beginning. It could be the beginning of the creation of Earth.
With all due respect that doesn't make much sense.
@@ralphgreenwood2469it makes perfect sense. Read it again
Jesus says the Father and I are one.
Jesus says that everything the Father has He gives to the Son.
Jesus says before abraham was I Am.
I Am was yahwehs self-designation.
There are plenty of texts showing Jesus' equality with the Father.
Are you very sure that the trinity was established well in the Christian church before and the Christians were shocked to know that Arian was teaching differently? 🤔🤔 Bcz Nowhere in the bible we could find the word Trinity. It seems that Constantine was the one who introduced Trinity
Yes he did because he himself was a pegan believer he believed in Sol Inctivus .. Apollo and all the pegan God's.. then when he saw the rise of Christianity he saw the chance to unify both beliefs. You can't tell ppl tht a person tht was once a pegan believer who had power to choose wht is to be worshiped had no bias
The word trinity isn’t in the bible you are correct but throughout both old and New Testament there is proper doctrine proving that God Is one being but 3 distinct persons known as God the Father who is fully God but isn’t The Son or the Holy Spirit, God The Son who is Fully God but isn’t God the Father or The Holy Spirit. And the Holy Spirit who is Fully God But also isn’t God the Father or God the Son. Yet they are the Same God but different Persons.
@@nathanyoung2829 yeah verses that are unaccounted for that the church decided to put in the bible and rule out any gospel that didn't fit their criteria. Like the gospel of Philip or Mary Magdalene ..why?
@@cyraps good question and the answers really simple they teach Gnosticism which isn’t coherent with the rest of scripture.
@@nathanyoung2829trinity does not make any logical sense. Which is why people who spout it always reverts to the theory as “mystery” or “cant be explained”. The mental gymnastic is insane. Unitarian is simple and makes sense. It’s quite blasphemous to think God the creator has others equal to him. Jesus was super clear in saying that he’s not good but only God is.
Yes, BUT : Why have Howdy Dowdy pesent the Video ?
The fact that the church thought that the Son could not be a creation of God due to John Chapter 1v1 is totally unreasonable. The word (or Son) was in the beginning. The beginning of what? God is eternal and had no beginning. The book of Revelation, written by the same apostle John in chapter 3 and verse 14 tells us that the Son (Identified as then faithful and true witness) was the beginning of creation BY God. So, the beginning mentioned in John 1;1 is the beginning of creation. The son is quite obviously the firstborn (brought forth, created) of all creation. The first thing made by the Father. Everything makes sense in the koine Greek when we realize that the Son is created. Divine yes, but created.
Good point! Thank you!! I never noticed that Scripture before!
Yes, this is and was obvious.
The council of Nicaea was likely political theatrics and the result was determined well before its conclusion.
Constatine's Church clearly had two main objectives; 1) differentiate Christianity and Judaism and 2) incorporate more Greek philosophy into scripture. The cosubstantiation of Jesus and the Trinity accomplishes both of these goals, in spite of direct scripture.
To Constantine and radical Greek bishops, Ariansim was simply too Jewish to be considered uniquely Roman.
@@Chadwick-k7x interesting comment. It does seem that the church of the third/fourth century was doing everything possible to free itself of being a sect of judaism. To the extent of corrupting the very nature of God.
That fact that you ignored the rest of John 1:1 makes your comment wrong
Hi. I’m a Greek Christian. The Greek scriptures do not teach the trinity. The Council of Nicaea was influenced by pagan Greek thought.
Imagine, it all happened 3 centuries after the death of Jesus.
So, within three hundred years Christianity became THIS complicated. Amen. 103021
@@orchidorio : Actually, the doctrine of the Trinity as we now have it was not formulated until AFTER Nicea. So how could there be an 'orthodox' view?
Who knew the other Abrahamic religions believe the only true god is the father. Islam and Judaism believes theres one god and no other persons! You must wonder why Most of Christianity is the only anomaly between the 3 Abrahamic religions? Does that mean the Jews in the old testament were wrong this whole time believing for only one god? Lol
@@cyanara5523god in heaven, his word on earth and his spirit that does his will. 1 god 3 tools.
@@paulploy6830 But those tools are one in accord and is not one person its the same as
1 Corinthians 3:6-11
He who plants and he who waters are one, and each will receive his wages according to his labor. For we are God's fellow workers. You are God's field, God's building.
These are two people referring to 2 of the apostles are you going to say that they are one in a literal sense? Or are they one because they are doing the same task at hand?
If 2 farmers have 2 different jobs but their job is to grow a plant they are one in accord. Not one in person
At 8:40 - Melitius of Lycopolis was not "insubordinate" to the bishop of Alexandria. There was no heirarchy above the local church before Nicaea created the Pentarchy, when the Roman State the Bishop of Alexandira over the bishops of Egypt. Melitius was part of the controversy with Arius, because in the previous generation, Peter unilaterally excommunicated Arius when he was young as a way of attacking Melitius for siding with the Novatian "rebaptizers" after Cyprian and the Romans started forging doctrines around the idea of denying Christ under persecution and then asking for forgiveness when the persecution ended.
Novatus said the Church did not have authority to readmit those who denied Christ publicly, but the sect eventually settled on readmittance if the people were rebaptized, because it was literally the 1st generation after child baptism became a thing, and they were essentually saying they weren't really born again. Cyprian and the bishop of Rome contested this as a heresy more to preserve Cyrpians own office, becaue he fled from Carthage when the persecution started, and then tried to make up rules of readmittance, claiming that the Roman Catholic "mother church" baptism was always efficacious. He even added the term "again" to John 3:5 to claim that one is "born again of water and the spirit," to make the case, which Jerome added to the Latin Vulgate, all to prop up the false doctrine of baptismal regeneration.
Melitius and many others sided with Novatus, who was elected by the elders of Rome to be the next bishop, while his rival who sided with Cyprian was elected by popular vote, many of whom had relatives that denied Christ that they wanted readmitted into the Church, while Novatus was saying this was not permitted. The bishop of Alexandira, (Dionysus I believe) also fled when persecution started, so he naturally sided with Cyprian, leading to his successor Peter condeming Melitius for taking the opposite stance. This claim was based on the idea of the regional Synod at Carthage being authoritative over the churches of Egypt, rather than the bishop of Alexandria, who attended the conference. But the Alexandrian bishops were always pushing for more power, which led to them eventually beating the bishop of Constantinople to death when someone from a rival sect was elected. This led to the Council of Carthage, which was largely about putting Alexandria in its palce.
The early church was a train wreck folks. There was nothing authoritative in the ecumenical councils. Stand under the Word of God. Nothing more.
You know what I love in videos about history and important events? Loud guitar music and some dude standing in a room, looking straight at me like I wore a thong to the gym.
Gosh😂😅
It's interesting that all these Videos about this topic never says anything about what The Creator of all thing says. When everyone realizes that The Creator has no problem letting his creation know exactly what he wants. Man only adds confusion and division. This video was great showing how even then man's perception of Christ caused death, division and confusion back then and it hasn't changed to this day.
That Howdy Dowdy statue is pure nightmare fuel.
More than good enough for me to screen out the noise.
Good coverage. It is interesting to note that Arianism is very similar to Islam in it's belief of God and Jesus. Christianity and Islam have very similar history and beliefs (including their respect for Jesus) but the biggest difference is that Christians are trinitarians and Muslims are unitarians believing in only 1 indivisible god with Jesus being one of his major prophets.
Arians still believe Jesus is divine, like a being higher than all angels but slightly lower than God.
Christianity,Islam,Judaism are all Abrahamic which is why they are so similar,all 3 co sign each other.
Christianity does not have “respect” for Jesus.
Jesus is God in flesh just as scripture says.
@@kellyanne7225 of course, because the bible said so.
Jehova Witness is more similar to Arianism than Islam.
It always seemed strange to hear the phrase "begotten, not made" in the Nicean Creed in Catholic Church. Clearly it was just as important to them what you did NOT believe as what you believed.
The music really takes away from the presentation. I'm very excited about the content but I literally am turning this video off and haven't made it through a quarter of the video because it's so distracting. The music doesn't compliment the context or content.
Same, got to 1.55 and gave up
@@anniev48 Its quite disappointing.
I love your coverage of historical events. Thanks for doing this.
The council of Jerusalem was the first council.
I have recited the Nicean Creed so many times in my life and never before thought about its history fascinating
Sad!
No disrespect but that goes to show how we just do things cause we are told to
@@swagcity6215 heretic
They Changed The Bible
But Still people Think it's God's Book
@@XIXCentury Cry
We don't know what they did or did not do, as they did not record the conversations between the emperor and the bishops. He ordered the church to attend, and they hunted those who did not go. We do have letters sent home, and what they describe gives one chill as to how they saw the emperor. It was a significant turning point; the church became the church of Rome and not that of a Hebrew Messiah. One of the things that did happen is that the emperor ordered the creation of 100 codexes of the books of the Bible, and they were identical, hence standardizing what was used and approved by the emperor...
One of the most topics I believe is missed was they didn't know where to place their capital of the faith. Emperor Hadrian having hated Jews so much had their cities and history erased. Constantine's mother was dispatched to find Jerusalem and the place of the true cross. At the time "Jerusalem" was a village, home to Asiatic Jewish tribes. Coincidently the area was found to be a holy site and became a power base for Constantine in the most ideal location. What if it wasn't the true Jerusalem though?
Asiatic Jewish tribes whats that?How did do they find archaeological sites mentioned in the Bible if no one knows where Jerusalem really is?
The history illustrates the developmental process that shaped our modern bible--lots of time passes before things were agreed upon, and even then, some disagreements remained through Luther's day. It is interesting how such bright lines were drawn during the "development" of the Canon. It was a very human process that included passionate positions by people who were living hundreds of years after the time of Jesus. Today, we don't even agree on what politicians say on recorded videos!
Notice the 'mitres' the bishops are all wearing? what is their origin? They were exactly the same as the head dresses worn by the priests of Dagon the 'Fish god' ( see 'the pagan origin of the mitre' in google). Harldy fitting for 'Christian' bishops to wear! Just an outward expression of the inward pagan amagamation of beliefs that the council of Nicea introduced to a corrupting church!
The paintings are from centuries after the council. At the council of Nicea miters did not yet exist. We do not see a miter like headdress for bishops before the 11th century, the first small ones probably influenced by the crown of the Byzantine emperor. That is 2000 years after this so called fish God. There is no connection what so ever. This fish god story was invented by a guy in the 19th century with a very bad grasp of history and all he wrote has long been debunked by serious historians.
@@ladydustin7811 Thanks, very informative! Poin taken. However. Please tell me how you feel about men of God wearing elaborate robes e.t.? Can you equate that with all we real about the early Christians. ( I will do more research as to several pagan apendages depicted on church robes. I do know for sure that the 'Chi Rho ( Jesus enitials in Latin) were used by pagan Constantine and adorned to the shields of his warrioirs at the battle of Malvern gate in Rome. It also was displayed on banners that went to areas of the battle to give it more power therre! Christian? I hardly think so!
It seems like the 'church' has screwed around so much with their history that it is impossible to know with certainty what in the world happened. The anonymity of the gospels being attributed by the 'church' to specific people and the unquestioning adherence to that by nearly everyone tells you just how optional and unnecessary 'truth' is.
SO .... WHAT YOU'RE SAYING EXTREMELY CLEARLY AND LOUD IS, the notion that "Jesus is a God, is in fact, man-made and the product of a meeting by religious minded MEN and then co-signed by the state .... and it was determined over 300 years after the supposed death and resurrection of "JESUS" ...... Then the "Bible" was revised for over 800 MORE years for a total of OVER 1100 years ..... GOT IT.
Exactly, Jesus says he is the Son of God, and his word trumps all men
True
As soon as say CE I am out!!
It is BC and AD!
They needed the State to enforce religion when they started to loose control.
The inverse is true today.
@@Maximos384 The enemy from within. Another parallel.
There is a hierarchy in heaven not even Jesus knew the date of the Armageddon Matthew 24:3 While he was sitting upon the Mount of Olives, the disciples approached him privately, saying: “Tell us, When will these things be, and what will be the sign of your presehierarchynce* and of the conclusion* of the system of things?” 36 “Concerning that day and hour+ nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son,* but only the Father.+ 37 For just as the days of Noah+ were, so the presence* of the Son of man will be.+ 38 For as they were in those days before the flood,* eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah+ entered into the ark;+ 39 and they took no note until the flood came and swept them all away,+ so the presence* of the Son of man will be. 40 Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken along and the other be abandoned; 41 two women will be grinding at the hand mill:+ one will be taken along and the other be abandoned.+ 42 Keep on the watch, therefore, because YOU do not know on what day YOUR Lord is coming.
Council of Nicaea changed the Word of God to fit their own agenda. They formed the Trinity which is adding to the Word. Paul spoke about this and said let anyone who adds or takes away from the words in the Bible be accursed. God is One. Jesus is God in a fleshly body. The reason John chapter 1 is correct concerning Jesus is that He always was but not in human form already. he was in the very plan(Word) of God from the beginning. Then it says the Word becomes flesh. Easy to understand that with some revelation
Look into the Aleph Tav Bible where the Aleph Tav symbol representing Yeshua appears about 7,000 times
What centuries of persecution? Even reading Eusebius its hard to identify more than a decade of persecution, mostly under Diocletian.
This is where they officially instituted the absolutely false trinity doctrine and threw the church into the dark ages.
The video proves that Christianity is a false/man made/and pagan religion not worth following, and placing your eternal destination in.
this was almost 400 years after jesus.
God is seen to br multi personal in the old testament, try again
History (and doctrine) is always determined by the winners.
1:06 Jordan Peterson?
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@@WaysOfTheJedis😭😭😭
You keep saying “the church” as if there was only 1. There were over 200 locally divergent denominations in the empire at that point and the Council’s main function was to nail down which factions would be the officially recognized ones. Hence the need for the Nicean creed. Christians were still far from the majority in most of the empire. At that point it was really the religion of urban centers. The conservative countryside was still pagan (that word basically means “hick”). The Christians were the gnostic woke cult of the cities who were destroying temples (which were also the libraries) and other cultural institutions in order to reorder the world in their vision. Now they’re the conservative religious faction nearly pushed out of cities and their gnostic outgrowth is acting up in the whole of western culture. Interesting how it rhymes.
Oh, and Constantine wasn’t actually converted after his dream because he wasn’t baptized until his death bed. You know, because he had to be absolved of things like murdering family members and killing “heretical” Christian like Arius’ followers.
i dislike how he neglected to put up any cites/sources of his reference .
How come the other 2 Abrahamic religion view Jesus as a human being while only Christian believe he's a God. Clearly he was born by natural course from Mary and how is this natural birth misinterpreted as the birth of son of God?
It’s just easier to live a life of disobedience and debauchery and have someone else expunge all you sins. It’s called having a scape goat
Because xtians get brainwashed from birth to believe this nonsense.
According to the Catholic Encyclopedia, the Catholic Church changed the baptismal formula from "in the name of Jesus Christ" to "in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit" in the second century. The Catholic Church considers Trinitarian baptisms to be valid, and while other baptismal formulas are acceptable, they must have been performed by a church or person who believes in the Trinity.
The confusion in religion reflects the different cultures in a quest for control.
😇1st for 15.1.4!
That doesn't make God and his Son Jesus untrue, it means there are STILL men wanting control over them.
HoneySpoon BeeWrangler I think the gnostics had the best interpretation..... but you can't command people to kill for Gnosticism....
I am speaking of the official definition of Mary Sue.
It is more alien to the human condition than any extraterrestrial
Religious people are so confused! It’s ridiculous!😂
Could you remove that creepy Howdy Doody from the shelf behind you? Thanking you in advance.
Yes! I thought it was just me.
-creepy.
Imagine he said "I don't own a howdy dowdy doll"
The council came together to discuss the divinity of Christ, the conclusion being Jesus Christ was divine & second person of a Godhead. Arianism professed Jesus Christ to be a man but the begotten son of God. God is one.
The 'holy trinity' may well be a coded political message.
Begin with the concept of primogeniture, where the eldest son inherits the entire estate when his father dies.
Project this to rules of royal succession: The current king is legitimate because he is the first born son of the 'holy ghost', or what is now the ghost of the previous king. The current king's first born son is the legitimate heir to the throne, thus 'the father, the son, and the holy ghost'. Since royal successions were often messy, this was coded in religious terms. A lot of people that 'never understood' the religious doctrine might have assimilated the intended secular meaning without even realizing it.
Wonderful explanation. Many people completely overlooked the fact, that the Bible was written by men, thinking it's a book it fell out of the sky. I was raised a Christian, however I wasn't brainswashed i loved to investigate and I love history. Reading the origins of Christianity made me realize that's it's nothing but words to control the masses
Btp hwat
This is interesting, anything to do with religion is all wrong with the living people on earth!! God bless God's children, Amen!!🙏
Amen 🙏
Have you seen the crap unfolding in Canada? The church and religion MUST go!! We are in the 21st century, well past the time of superstitious belief.
Religion is not Faith. Religion is organized rules created by men in order to worship and reach the divine. Faith is having belief in something you can't see or touch.
As for the second comment I live in Canada and we have more Muslims than Christians. Believing in God and Jesus as the Son of God and the Son of Man isn't superstition. It's plain truth. The only place the Church is going is with Jesus when the rapture of the Church occurs. Don't curse and throw out what you clearly lack understanding in.
@@Zantetsuken94 The first Jewish revolt, mithra & the reason why Constantine changed his surname to flavius gives you a better understanding of the council of Nicea.
An as a Muslim I believe Jesus peace be upon is a prophet to the lost sheep of Israel. Not the begotten sun of god that's blasphemy!!!!
@@myisden2954 Speaking like a true dictator. Wanting to remove people from freedom to believe in God. Soon, I hope you find that both science and a conscious source (Supreme intellect) responsible for reality go hand in hand.
Great video thank you
Wow, unsubstantiated charges of anti-Semitism. You win the cliche award.
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Had the same thought like u not gonna source this claim
I figured it was more because "we don't want to share a holy day with your religion. We want our own!"
I still don't know what a Semite is? Or who the Semitic people are?
It's frigging confusing. They can't all be Jewish.
Council of Laodicea
Canon 29
Christians must not judaize by resting on the Sabbath, but must work on that day, rather honouring the Lord's Day; and, if they can, resting then as Christians. But if any shall be found to be judaizers, let them be anathema from Christ.
At 3:11 - I love his definition of "consubstantial." Philosphically accurate but laughably unscriptural. What "stuff" was the Father and Son "made" out of. 🤣🤣 I tried to submit a paper in seminary entitled "God Stuff" about the logical absurdity of the term homoosian (consubstantial), but they refused to let me.
I wish there were a religion based on inclusion and not division...
If there was, it would no longer be a religion.
@@theeclectic2919
Exactly! When I die, the last thing I would want to look forward to is going to a giant country club in the sky where everyone is the same! I know that's obviously what a LOT of people want, but it chills me to the bone...
Don't worry, there's another special place for people like you.
Islam is the only religion of truth. God promised to protest the holy Koran from any corruption. And here we are 1400 years later with people converting to Islam in droves just like the Koran said they would.
If you want to know anything about a Creed that led to depriving people of life and treasure: follow the money. This also applied to the Roman proscriptions, and to many of the inquisitions against wealthy women styling them as witches.
Fantastic informational video. Thank you
a. Convened by a pagan emperor b. Attended by less than a 3rd of 'biships' c. The bishop of Rome, absent d. The conclusion, insisted on by the Emperor. e. An edict that capital punishment for any disagreeing. f. Held in a summer Roman palace I could go on! How different from the first real Christian council in AD49 in Jerusalem. Please read in Acts 15 for the contrast!
A useless comment.What was the point?
@@ralphgreenwood2469 The FACT this "council" was a trumped up illegitimate meeting coming to conclusions of a few to overthrow Arius and anybody who did not have THEIR beliefs! That's the point!
Did you just say that Jesus was created from the same stuff that created God? Which means something made God ! Which means there was something before God? That created Him? That all is just soooo confusing
What a missed opportunity this video is showing an incomplete picture. Constantine is the main reason Jesus is considered divine today. When voting on the issue of divinity or any new dogma for that matter, the bishops maintained that the only way they knew the Holy Spirit was speaking through them was to come to a unanimous decision. Well when it came to whether Jesus was just a human or more, there were a handful of bishops that would not budge and refused to vote for divinity. So Constantine, eager to consolidate his power in the waning days of the Sol Invictus cult and nearing the end to his own life, decided to basically rig the vote by throwing out the votes of the dissenting bishops and whammo, you suddenly have a unanimous vote to call Jesus divine. Soooo yeah, all that death....based on a rigged vote. I'm sensing a repeating pattern here...
Also the formula for finding the date of Easter in any given year is this: Easter falls on the first Sunday after the first full moon following the spring equinox.
Paul wrote his letters about three hundred years before this council and always affirmed that if Jesus wasn’t devine then all christianity would be in vain. He and the rest of the New Testament writers affirm His divinity. But even in the Old Testament like the prophet Isaiah (7:14) writes that Jesus would be Emmanuel, God among us. But then again you’ll believe what ever you want to believe. Peace!
@@atgred yes I know all the refutations. I learned what I learned in seminary actually.
@@fluidikons How did you learn that from seminary? We have early church writings from Irenaues and Justin Martyr that affirm Jesus’ divinity. That’s the first thing they would have taught you at seminary
"Constantine is the main reason Jesus is considered divine today." That is not true. The council was called precisely to address this 'new shoot' of Arian's teaching that was not what had been passed down and taught. The Church, as a whole, absolutely and already believed in the divinity of Christ.
Jesus Christ was always seen as divine, even as a created being. No one says angels aren't divine despite being God's creation, so why would His only begotten Son not be seen as divine?
As a Christian i approve this video.
Background music..
Useful and informative video degraded by distracting thrash metal background music.
How can you believe in the trinity??
(Revelation 1:1)
[A revelation by Jesus Christ, which [God] gave him, to show his slaves..]
Revelation 1:6
and he made us to be a kingdom, priests to his [God and Father]-yes, to him be the glory and the might forever. Amen.
Can't even get through the first chapter of Revelation . Before this false pagan trinity teaching crumbles...
(Revelation 3:12,14) NKJV
[He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he shall go out no more. I will write on him the name of My God and the name of the city of My God, the New Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My God. And I will write on him My new name.]
[“And to the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write, ‘These things says the Amen, the Faithful and True Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God:]
×4 (MY GOD) -Firstborn creation of Almighty God Yahweh/Jah ....
The ONE ONLY TRUE GOD (John 17:3)
THE TRUTH IS SIMPLE
Sha'lom Aleichem in Hamashiach
Hallelujah-Praise Jah you people.
The Holy Spirit is the breath of God
@davidmillward3108
Symbolic language?
Does Almighty Jah breathe?
@GolfnMoreclips well He breathed life into Adam
Love the background music
Thumbs down for the annoying background music.
Complaints like this are of a lazy unfocused simpleton.
Complaints like this are of a lazy unfocused simpleton.
Without overblown hierarchy (pointy hats), squabbling over opaque minutiae, plus Aramaic and Latin to obscure all the contradictions, Christianity could not exist at all. And they where would they get all that money?
The Council of Nicaea was where the church went into apostasy and has been there ever since.
Interesting take, are you by chance unitarian?
Very hot and original take my dude
Facts bro:( I pray for my Christian brothers and sisters, sending prayers to ya'll
It is literally impossible for Jesus’ church to commit apostasy. Apostasy is to be separate from the church.
@@bourbonrebel5515Which church? Roman Catholic, Orthodox, Baptist, Episcopalian, Pentecostal, Seventh Day Adventists or Jehovah's Witnesses? How is it possible for the Church not to commit apostasy? Some of these churches differ widely & are apostate! 🙃
I am concerned that we have spent thousands of years studying the Scriptures while the Christian Church in all its many, many incarnations has perpetrated innumerable sins. Just to name one: the Crusades. This in service of a religion that has too often been used by the powerful to increase their own power at the expense of the masses. What if we had used all that effort to better understand the universal aspects of our humanity? Doing that could unite the globe rather than divide us - as we are - into warring tribes based on our respective mythologies? I’ve spent much of my life studying the Bible and the various Christian sects. Given the lack of historical proof and the numerous inconsistencies surrounding the founding of the Christian religion makes its claims of inerrancy highly improbable. What we need is a more inclusive Narrative that can build on our shared humanity. And to do so in a way that improves the odds that we will actually survive as a species. I wonder how we could work together towards that goal?
"Wiccan business" I wish people knew a lot of us pagans dont identify with the wiccan faith
Dude, right!!!!! Most don't!! It's so annoying when people ask if I'm Wiccan!
@@cutebutsadisticable Why have any religion?
@@theeclectic2919 why not?
@@cutebutsadisticable Religion is just humanity's first attempt at controlling people. It's more primitive than organized government, but it still works (unfortunately.)
@@theeclectic2919 blech talk about crude over generalizations. The truth is what you're asking is tantamount to saying "why have any culture?" Since Religion is a function of Culture whereby the collectives of a society venerate the ideals and model of reality that motivate them unto certain ends. Religion is an important function of anthropic reality. Liminality and social psychology all find their drives originated within culture and religion.
The council of nicea met once again recently. Trying to solve one question. Why do so many videos have to have the stupid distracting background noise?
This is so ridiculous and shows that men have long altered words to suit their own agendas, similar to what we're seeing with the word woman being redefined. The word begotten literally means made. Son literally means heir. Christ always made it clear that He was a created being throughout His time on Earth, so Arius was correct. These so-called bishops will be judged harshly for their conspiracy with the pagan king.
Thank you. The Christians here who are agreeing with him are only doing so because he's not telling it like it should be told. He's rewording things to the liking of Christians without calling a spade a spade
as a muslim I'm finding lots of similarities with arius ideas, we also believe Jesus was miraculously born without father and had the ability, with Gods permission to do miracles and spread his word, but hes still one of his creation, and is and will never be equal to the creator
@@aeman2080 Muslims do not believe Jesus is the Savior/Messiah/Christ/Annointed One of the Father. They do not believe he is God's only begotten Son or the King of all Kings. They do not believe we can be spiritually reborn as Christ was through the Holy Spirit. They only believe him to be a mere human prophet when he is the Divine Lord and sole Mediator between humanity and God, currently standing at the right hand of the throne of God- awaiting the day when he will return to exact vengeance and judge us all.
Why the distracting and bad music?
Jesus is not God ... I Tim.2:5... Still a man mediator
a prophet
read the 4 Gospels. you will see it make clear over and over, Jesus claims to be God. He took the divine name “I AM” for Himself (John 8:58, from Exodus 3:14).He made Himself equal with God (John 5:18). He claimed that whoever saw Him saw the Father (John 14:9). i recomend reading John chapter 1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
"The Word," a translation of the Greek λόγος (logos), is widely interpreted as referring to Jesus, as indicated in other verses later in the same chapter. For example, "the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us" (John 1:14; cf. 1:15, 17)
I've watched that Vantriloquist/Dummy "Twilight Zone" episode too much. Was waiting on him to sit up. 😅🤣