He’s the guy that does 80% of the presentation but can’t speak in front of a crowd without breaking down. Insert Steve Jobs who can’t make the project but could sell sand to a lizard.
The "group" would get the highest grade for the "group" project if you let Woz do the whole 100%. He's such a decent bloke he probably wouldn't mind one bit.
I remember reading in a book that Woz was so unassuming that he went to the bank to deposit 100 grand. He got in line with everyone else and patiently waited. When he handed the check for deposit, the teller thought he was trying to rob them. The manager came out and told Woz that there was no need for him to queue and he could just go to the manager directly if he's going to deposit large sums. And he replied "Why? Everyone else is standing in line". Also his daughter later said that she had no idea they were that rich when she was growing up. She thought they were just upper middle class. They lived in the same old house even when Woz had all those millions.
I think its smart. No need to spend money for a big house just so you stand out as long if its safe. And I also like thats he is a honest and a hard working man!
and as if his techincal achievements weren't enough, back in the early 80s he hired and chilled w/ van halen to play a music festival. can not respect this OG bro enough
Jobs was the face, Woz was the seed. Jobs saw an opportunity w Woz, and any other savvy entrepreneur could have started the company, but Jobs was the one that pushed for better products and faster. So in the end both were needed for Apple to be where it is.
And there wouldn't have been Apple without Jobs. I owned a computer company in the late 90's at the age of 18. I had built my first computer at age 6. But being in the business I realized that computer "technicians" had no business skills and I spent more time running the business than messing with computers and I never got to do the fun stuff. I never invented anything like Apple and my computer business was sold due to me having a lot of health problems at an early age, I think because I was a lot like Steve Jobs. I still talk to some of my old technicians but they were like Woz. Some of them tried starting businesses and all failed. Woz might've invented the coolest thing but without someone to invent and grow the BUSINESS, Apple never would've became Apple without both of them.
I don't think Jobs is undeserving, but THIS guy deserves books, movies, and a lot more credit than he is given now, but do you know why he does not get it? ---> 4:43
+Ulises Calvo Because he's not a salesman or businessman. He also not a psychotic, overambitious mega-ego with adoption issues and a love for adulation. Both men made tech history, only one is an interesting story. Xerox PARC was crammed full of geniuses like Wozniak. Ever heard of any of them? The world knows Woz becasue of Jobs.
+Ulises Calvo This guy makes himself more than he is. He is not Dennis Ritchie, Henry Edward Roberts (inventor of Personal Computer... way before Wozniak), Howard Aiken and Grace Hopper. Both Steves had a tremendous impact on Wall Street, but not computing.
+cabrioleur The Woz floppy controller is considered by a lot of hardware engineers to be one of the best pieces of engineering of all time. The whole thing was pretty great, actually.
I met and worked with Steve Wozniak in 2009 for the first time. And what struck me about Steve was how quick and succinctly he spoke. I think someone must have slowed him down a little here to produce this video because he usually talks a lot faster than that. He's one of the nicest man you'll ever meet and one of the most caring people on the planet. I think this video really reflects the inner person that Steve Wozniak is and how he really really wanted to bring technology into the home.
I once met Steve in Vegas at Caesar's Palace and told him about how we used his computers to create software to help special needs children communicate to the world. I shook his hand and gave him a thank you from thousands of children who would if they could. Woz was kind and very moved by what I had to say...
@@brianjay9811 If a world scientific government was composed by people like wozniak, we would have peace and prosperity for all mankind everywhere, we could aim for great progresses like the end of famine, of desertification, of pollution, and conquer the solar system, use a.i., automation, dna engineering, fusion energy etc to terminate the money system, market, competition, wage work, capitalism and imperialism; if the world was run by people like jobs, we would instantly have a world war
@@opts9 Sure. The set up is that in 1983, I was a poor artist living in Alaska. Due to my desire for an Apple II and noticing a photo of Steven sitting in a living room with no artwork on his walls, I decided to ship him a very large painting, titled "Gramps", of an old man sitting on a tomato truck, in exchange for an Apple IIe. I also included a program I had written on a borrowed Apple, which I hoped, with Jobs help, would make me millions. I dug deep into my finances to have the painting crated and shipped to California. A month later, I received this letter: "I'd like to thank you for sending "Gramps" and your 10,000 Faces program; I *do* like Gramps, and hope your programming work brings you great success. I regret that we won't be able to send the Apple IIe that you requested; you're right, I would like to help if I could, but we have a very strict policy that all distribution of our products must be handled directly by an Apple dealer, as this is the only way you can be assured of prompt and courteous service and support for your computer. You mentioned in your letter that "Gramps" is one of your favorite works and worth approximately $1000; I'd feel very bad about keeping your work and not offering the compensation you asked for, so I thought it best to return it to you, and let you have the chance to perhaps sell it and be fairly paid for your efforts. It is being shipped separately. Your interest in our products is very much appreciated; again, I wish you the very best. Sincerely, Steve (signed in felt pen) Steven P. Jobs Chairman Board of Directors Well I guess this was not as hard-nosed as I remembered. Now forty years later, I still have the painting and sell prints of it on my FineArtAmerica page. My plan is to put this letter up on eBay, now that I'm back in Alaska and looking to finance yet another great Apple computer...
+Larkinchance While having ambition is hardly a bad thing (as well as just wanting to make money to have a better life with in reason) I do agree that many Americans have their priorities messed up and the fact that Steve is along a house hold name and most people will draw a blank stare at the mention of Wozniak is a testament to that fact (that's not to say I don't think Steve deserves to praised since he still did a lot to get Apple off the ground but in a perfect world they would of both have had top billing). All in perfect world it should be: American's love ambition. American's love innovation, building up industry and making a better lives for themselves. Americans love Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak.
+S. D. Gentry In terms of engineering, but most people respect him for Pixar and taking Apple from a company with a market cap of $2.3 Billion - $314 Billion. Steve Wozniak was a brilliant engineer and the 17 year life span of the Apple II shows that, but he couldn't have saved Apple in 1997.
*Steve Wozniak was always humble and soft spoken, he was overshadowed by smart talker Steve Jobs however tech people know that Wozniak gave birth to apple, he was the brain behind everything.*
In a lot of ways you really need both types to take off like Apple did. The really technically-inclined people often aren't the best at marketing. Woz needed that somewhat psychopathic personality in Jobs to really slam it home.
LOTS of great ideas fizzle out before they become mainstream. A great idea in this age requires resources, connections, money, and yes even luck and timing. Both Steves were required to bring all the ingredients together for this 'Apple Pie'.
I saw that and remembered that, I have recently started worrying about how back in the days, I used to put Pb in my mouth like him. I'll probably have some mental illness when I get older (lead does a number on the neuron connections), geee I hope not.
This is awesome. Love the last words "I'll stay at the bottom of the org chart being an engineer because that's where I want to be. " In a society that praises the front man, It's comforting to know that not all of the greats desired fame and fortune, some were driven by passion. Kinda gives me hope.
"I want to be at the bottom of the org chart, being an engineer" What a sincere and happy man Steve is. I hope to have just half the contentment in my life that he has.
Wow.. Wozniak genuinely appreciates and loves engineering. no fame, no glory, no wealth. Jobs got lucky as hell finding this man who wanted nothing more than to do what he loved and took advantage of that soft spot.
@@TwenOalley You'd be right, and therein lies the fundamental difference between the two Steves. Woz would put the standard jack in because it benefited everyone and made logical sense. Jobs changes it to a proprietary connection, charges extra for the headphones to connect to it, charges 3rd party manufacturer's up the wazoo for rights to make devices to connect to it, and sues the fuck out of anyone who dared to open the device & reverse engineer the connector to get it back the way it should have been. I'm glad Jobs decided to treat his cancer "holistically" like a dumb ass so by the time he realized he was an idiot it was too late. Now he eats dirt for eternity. Fuck you Jobs!
@@TheWitchOvAgnesi It would be like before the industrial revolution, i.e. like the 1700s. I'm not saying that's entirely a bad thing, but that is what it would be like.
@@gabyu I've seen in other videos that he did that because he knew their customers wanted that, including himself. You can make money with modularity or with how Apple does it nowadays.
You can see it too, he's not just putting the boards back in the case and typing out some code he memorised before the video to create some B-roll for the cameras. He's actually having fun, lost in the moment :)
So this is the kind of person you need to be to make history. A person obsessed with your work. The kind of person who doesn't say "Well... I could probably make this a little bit more efficient, but i'll save it for the next evolution". A person who says "Screw all this hard work, it's not the best i can do!".
+Cristi Neagu "The kind of person who doesn't say "Well... I could probably make this a little bit more efficient, but i'll save it for the next evolution" That's exactly what Steve Jobs would have said, and what Apple is like now.
I've never liked Apple but I love Woz. He's SO utterly passionate about what he does, beaming with pride and happiness, very grounded and in tune with his beliefs. A very rich man indeed.
It is because of a management culture where the top manager pretend that he is doing all important inventions and decisions. And sadly journalists eat that BS.
This is actually the opposite. Everyone understand why WOZ is good, because programming is complex right...but no one really get it why Jobs is so important. They will say, Woz is the genius, Jobs is just the salesman, but the point is, you need to be a genius to sell a genius product...
People don't always recognize genius, and sometimes they recognize it, but aren't willing to take a chance on funding it. It takes a certain type of person to push new ideas, and that's what Jobs did. I'm not saying he was a good person, or that he could have done it alone, but he's had a HUGE impact on the world we live in, even without engineering chops. I've always been a huge fan of Woz (I grew up in the Bay Area where they were basically heroes), but Jobs was important too, even if he was a dick.
YSoSrs? Nop...revolution happen when technology become accessible to the consumer. The invention is the starting point, but making it mainstream will ask you more than the marketing guy. You need a paradigm shifter...you need a Steve Jobs. Unfortunately, most people are novice in industrial organization and will claim that Jobs is just the marketing guy. Right now there is thousand of great inventions ready to change the every day life...most of them will fail.
+YSoSrs? If you were alive back then, you would of seen the reverse was true. The color IIgs with its superior hardware was a piece of crap next to the little closed Macintosh with its monochrome screen. It sounds counter intuitive, but it was true, because it was a paradigm shift. Mac OS was miles ahead of Apple ][ dos. The Apple ][ was stuck in the past while the Mac was a leap into the future. And its little mono screen was superior to the big fuzzy color tv screen, because its pixels were perfectly square, sharp, crisp and clean, compared to the tri-rectangular fuzzy pixel of a ][gs monitor. Back then I worked in a Software store and pirated the whole store... and had a Mac back at home. The only thing we did on the store ][gs was play Tetris and Hellcats over the Pacific. On the Mac you could do lasar desk top publishing... on the ][gs maybe a housewife could print out a shitty certificate in Certificate Maker.
no, jobs was. just like how gates brought the windows OS from a random programmer for 50k (which he sold for millions), without a leader woz would have been the same.
Woz in all his glory was simply a violinist in the symphony Steve led. Of course he played a huge role but it can not be understated Steve's influence in being able to push his engineers and influence people around him.
@@Seven_Leaf Steve Job's business skills are the number one in the world, top notch, he is the #1 business person of all time. He turned a failing company (Apple in the 1990s) into the most successful company in the world and introduced technology that changed the world completely. He also founded NeXT Computer and Pixar, both of which were successful companies in their own right, and Pixar created Toy Story, Monsters Inc, The Incredibles, Finding Nemo, etc, and sold to Disney for billions. If you read the founding Pixar book, Steve Jobs was on top of that company the whole time too, it is so incredible the work he did.
@@natenorrish The horrible thing about the internet is it allows you to trick yourself into thinking its productive watching these kinds of videos when its not :(
I don't have words to describe this man, there 1 in millions like him who are just driven by passion without any kind of greed, a pure genius and not being an asshole about it.
I read Woz's book, "I Woz" several years ago. My impression of Woz was that he was happy at the fundamental level. Remote control genius to say the least. He's always going to be a man I respect greatly. Thanks for the video.
There will come a time (is almost here now) when the late 70s, early 80s will become a mythological time per the early microcomputer revolution. Woz will always have his legendary edifice in that mythos
That’s funny🤓I was involved in electronics, product and board design many years ago (early 90’s) and when I would layout the board or even first draw the schematics I always thought of it as a functional piece of art too. Maximizing the function AND the aesthetics. I would easily work 40-50 hours in 3 days on a design because I was enjoying it so much I would lose track of the time. I just figured I was weird. Maybe I am lol
When I write a program try to follow the Woz's principles because it helps for example, I can feel the program is doing and running into a wall.. Thank you Steve.
I have a *huge* respect for Wozniak, for staying true to his core self, for wanting to stay an engineer and not get carried away with any money hurricane. Hats off, sir.
Louis Rossmann has actually praised Apple in the past. Louis isn't just an Apple brand hater. He gives credit when credit is due, and criticism when it's needed.
numberyellow Apple is doing better than before. You guys focus on specs and hate, while Apple is swimming in their millions. No tech company is even close
No telling. Woz is lucky Steve didn't steal the whole enchilada from him, like Mark Cuban did the technology for Broadcast.com. One things for sure : there's be no Apple computer without Woz. Period. Steve couldn't make a computer. Other people made the Mac, with Apple II revenue supporting the losing Mac division. Hey, I have three Macs, so I'm not an apple hater, but please.... Jobs was a marketer, and clever re-inventor. I mean cell phones and mp3's were around for 10 years, but he had the vision to put them together. but he's not Leonardo Davinchi. He's Mark Cubanish. He did'n't really succeed until Pixar, when he became a better manager according to insiders. Mac was a failure, Next was a failure.
I believe they're both equally as important to the company. There would be no Apple without Steve Jobs and there would be no Apple without Wozniak. Wozniak made the computer but without Jobs, Woz wouldn't know how to make it user friendly. Just like how you said Jobs didn't really succeed until Pixar (which I don't really agree with because making a billion-dollar company at the age of 30 is a success in my book; nonetheless I see your point), Woz left Apple in 1985 and then in the 2000s tried to start various other companies which failed. To summarise, both have pros and cons, and I think both played a very important role in Apple. In the end, in my opinion, they're both wouldn't be where they are now without the other.
Let me clarify that. Steve's falures began with Lisa, then Macintosh, then Next. He finally succeeded with Pixar. The First Apple II was not user friendly in today's sense of the word. The Macintosh was, but it was a failure financially. The apple II revenue supported development of the Mac, and Steve's idea was to kill the Apple II and focus the entire company on Macintosh. In that sense, it was a failure. And that's what forced him out.
+Scott Johnson He'd probably be a successful used car salesman. Steve Wozniak is the true creator of Apple and i have the utmost respect for him, Steve Jobs was nothing but a salesman and a greedy selfish one at that!
Steve Wozniak needs to sale his share to apple and get out . He needs to create a new company. I bet he could create some amazing products . There's a reason he still uses a iPhone 6 in 2019...
@@CamburkeRealEstate no he still owns quite a bit of apple. It allows him to do what he wants. He did give away or sell very cheaply some of his shares to Apple employees, effectively making them wealthy too. The last time I heard woz was volunteering with schools to teach computer science and engineering at the elementary level. Giving back to the industry he loves.
+sexyloser Well no, he died first, of course. But, he did take the credit, and most of the money, for work that was the creative impetus of others. He was a businessman, who's skill was at effectively marketing and selling technology that he did not create. Jobs was a salesman, while Wozniak was a creator.
Woz talks about his creations like a little kid at show and tell. He’s just happy to talk with you about something he enjoys. Woz is a genuinely great man.
And the complement of 'nice, sincere and genuine' is 'nasty, insincere and fake'. Wozniak was, and is, by far the better of the two, but unfortunately you need people like Jobs as well. I am sure that Wozniak would never have wanted to produce such a money-making greedy company that Apple has become.
He even says himself that he isn't a good leader and he doesn't want to be one either so it wouldn't be too good. He could work as a programmer or maybe CEO though.
+Jonathan Saunders Wozniak's true talent was that he was obsessive and the effort that he put in showed in his technical designs but that's not what drives Apple today. It's about style and branding now and Wozniak just wouldn't be right for that. Yes, Apple products might be more bug free if they were as technically obsessive as Wozniak was but that would only mean the new products wouldn't get to market in a timely fashion. Remember that his last project at Apple was a Universal TV remote control years before people even knew what a Universal remote was, problem is that what he came up with was so technically difficult to program that it was essentially unusable, of course he also never finished the design to his satisfaction because he realized that he didn't need to be so obsessive over his work anymore, that he could just enjoy the millions that he had instead, so he just dropped it all.
@@johnwang9914 apple does need to put their products up in a timely fashion no ones buying their products its getting to expensive and all for the wrong reasons
Incredible...this guys reward was not the money, but to just have a computer. He loved what he was doing more than the billions he would earn. Amazing.
@@chnolte False. There is 100% no chance of apple without Woz, he is the sole maker of the first couple of apple machines, jobs had nothing to do with making them. Without jobs Woz might have taken LONGER to get his machines made public, but there is nothing to have stopped him from doing so, but without Woz jobs would have a whole buncha charisma and no machines to sell because he had NO CLUE how to make a computer.
The Apple ][ was about as big as it gets. It was one of the main reasons that IBM got into the personal computer market (another long story). It was also the computer of choice for many schools, introducing a generation to computers. So it may have been small, but it had a big impact.
@@stephenwright8824 I still have my Apple ][+, 48K RAM, still only 40 column uppercase only! Never got the language card for 64k or more, or an 80-column card, but I still programmed the heck out of it. Learned a lot about computers and hardware that carried me on to this day.
I met him briefly the first time I went to Comdex back in '82. Seemed like a very humble down-to-earth guy, especially in contrast to all the uptight grey suits running around the convention floor at the time.
Love the "bottom of the org chart" comment. I never put it that way before, but I feel exactly the same way. It's nice to be needed but not to be responsible for people.
Agreed, that stood out to me too. I didn't become an engineer so I could be a manager. I became an engineer...to engineer. To some people that's an odd concept.
Woz was an absolute genius at PCB layout and TTL logic. Steve Jobs had once worked at Atari. Nolan Bushnell was complaining about the production costs of their coin-op games. This was pre-microprocessor when everything was made with discrete logic. Each game used 100-150 TTL chips and he wanted to cut the cost on the game Breakout. Jobs enlisted Woz and Woz came up with a design that used only 47 or 48 chips! The only problem was that Atari couldn't use it. His design was so clever and used so many subtle layout tricks that the Atari engineers couldn't replicate it for mass production! They had to redesign it, and it ended up using 100+ chips. On a sad side-note, Bushnell offered $700 for the design and a $5,000 bonus for using less than 50 chips. Jobs gave Wos the $350 50/50 split of the $700, but kept the 5 grand for himself and never told Woz.
I love him, he sees like a smart, genuine, dorky, lovable guy. Someone that is definitely a role model and hero for me because making computers was like the ultimate smartness since my dad and grandmother did it while I grew up in the 80’s and 90’s.
As a Commodore fanboy teen in the 80's, I *still* never had anything except respect for Woz. The man is a geek's geek, with a genius and passion that endears him to every person who loves computers. Now that I'm older, I absolutely love looking at his designs and how they work. I don't blame him at all for wanting to stay on the technical side of the house; work is just better when it's something you love doing. Long Live Woz.
Woz was/is the real creative genius behind apple’s insanely great products; not to mention the fact that he is just a great guy all around.. Humble, intelligent, well spoken and very down to earth; I wonder if he realizes just how much of an inspiration he is......
Steve and Steve really where two geniuses in each their respect. One happened to be very charismatic, a bit psyco and an excellent salesman as well, the other is just a likeable guy who doesn't care much for money or fame.
In my opinion Steve Wozniak stayed true to himself and his own passion. Steve Jobs on the other hand probably tried to be like X or Y at the time the investments rolled in. In my eyes, that did not work out so well. This can be a lesson to all of us trying to live our lives to the full potential. What ever the full potential might be for you.
The passion. The positivity. The creativity. The engineering. The commitment. Woz' contribution to human development into the digital age is difficult to overstate.
The big message here is that.. Wozniak would be a famous amazing guy no matter what happened. its in his bones. While Jobs, without Wozniak could have been just another "Prick" (not my words, but common description) business man.. I suppose its only us more tech savvy people that truly understand this. Woz is the one guy I would like to meet out of all the people in the world.. (If I had a choice.)
I agree with much of that but like you say. Steve would not have reached his pinnacle without Woz. The point is Woz is a far more unique, and important ingredient then Jobs was to the formula. Woz could have been partnered with numerous cut throat business man and been extremely successful. I have met many sales men that can sell anything.. It's winning the billion to one chance you have the right tech behind you that can pull it off that makes companies like Apple, Google, Facebook. You don't see these Goliath buying small startups for their sales teams. It's the tech talent... Finally, I am not a big fan of putting Jobs on a pedestal when it is common knowledge that he took advantage of even his closest friends such as Woz.
***** There where a lot of start up small computer companies back in those days.. It was the technical genius that made the Apple pull ahead.. So this idealistic tech combination with shrewd businessman was not uncommon (At the time). I have met a lof of shrewd businessman, putting it nicely, over the years but very very few tech geniuses. As such, I see it more as Woz was the key ingredient and Jobs was a very good launching pad. My experiences over the years has shown, Jobs was lucky to meet Woz, while Woz could have met many versions of "Jobs". And personally I think a man who can be true to himself and his passions and not cheat and destroy his own friends in the path they chose in life.. is far more a person we should hold in high regard.. I find it very frustrating that we hold individuals that are well known for F-ing people over intentionally to get ahead, and our children pick up on this. And people wonder why the world is going to hell with global warming etc.. When these are the lessons we teach.
***** Sorry, I have to disagree.. Woz commented on the fist Jobs/Kutcher film, mentioning many of the errors in the story. Predominantly the fact that he (Jobs) stood on the shoulders of amazing engineers. And predominantly that Jobs was pushed out for good reasons. And the way he said it sounds like he agreed with this. After the Apple II, all Apple products were a failure. (Woz's words) Apple went close to bankruptcy clearly due to engineering failure. It was the KEY to why they failed. OS9 was a complete disaster and their attempts at a multitasking OS was also a complete disaster and never saw the light of day. Jobs, if anything realised that engineering was the key, and NextStep was the result.. and in the end was also the saviour of Apple. Steve was asked back because he was really one of the only options Apple had. How many people could they go to to bring a competitive OS into the company over night, so to speak.. If anything, Jobs had a good eye for gravitating to the core element of all the most successful companies of today. Leading engineering talent. (But I personally think engineers gravitated towards him as Jobs was lucky enough with Woz, and other Woz type people hoped lightning would strike again) Look at all the leading companies like Google, Facebook, Microsoft. They are where they are today, and most people would agree, due to engineering.. not Salesman/Businessman. The issue here is good engineers are a LOT, and I mean a LOT harder to find then a businessman. Lets look at Commodore. Again made on the back of amazing engineering. amazing use of co-processors and many advanced hardware engineering techniques common in todays computers. But if failed. Why, well the engineering was stifled. The core talent left. And as such, Commodore is now gone. Ie, without the amazing engineering, those companies are gone. Who is more important? I am sorry, but history from my perspective. its not the businessmen.. Yes they push the engineers to change the world, but they need those engineers first. Again, businessmen NEED the engineers, while engineers level of success can be larger or smaller depending on the talent of those businessmen. And again, yes Jobs took them a long way, but for talents we should not praise or honor, as those characteristics are not healthy for the sole of the planet.
***** Without Jobs, Wozniak would've been a full time engineer at HP, one of the largest technology companies in the world. Not as rich or famous as he is today because of Apple, but a highly paid engineer nonetheless. Jobs, on the other hand, would probably still be volunteering at the local Apple orchard or travelling in India with no direction in life due to not having a formal education and not having developed the skills to make it in a respectable job. I'm not sure how you see it, but Jobs needed Wozniak more than he needed Jobs.
I just read this man's biography and I am flabbergasted by Woz's genius. The elegant (and minimalist) solutions that he found are just astonishing. He single-handedly reinvented the computer concept and created technology that was still in use even 10-15 yrs afterwards (such as the floppy driver). And he did this with no help, all by himself. Jesus.
Woz was my hero from the day I bought my first Apple II+. I designed music cards for it and went on to get a BSEE degree. I loved that the circuit schematics and source code to the BIOS were included in the back of the manual. A far cry from the Apple of today. Thank you Woz!
Wozniak - What you get when you combine an engineer, a genius, and an artist all in one. I've never been an apple person. Had a discount iphone for not too long. But this fascinates the heck out of me every time.
Its great to see someone so passionate and enthusiastic about his work, and despite having years in the trade and making it to the top hes not really lost that passion
Truly one of the Wright Bros. of the industry. Unassuming, still with a child-like fascination of how these things work. I hope someone names a school after him one day.
4:52 - Basic beep command is Ctrl-G, more complex tones required PEEK commands at a particular address that I don't remember for sure, but -16336 sticks out in my mind for some reason.
@Cosmonauteable Wasn't a professional programmer, just tinkered around while I was in school. The Apple II was on the decline by the time I finished middle school. The few Apple II's we had in high school were in the keyboarding classroom.
Wozniak is the person in school who does 80% of the "group" project
Then adds; “Guys I was up all night working on it and haven’t slept.....”, to throw a little unintentional shame in there.
He’s the guy that does 80% of the presentation but can’t speak in front of a crowd without breaking down. Insert Steve Jobs who can’t make the project but could sell sand to a lizard.
The guy who does 80% of the work, then the other two guys take all the credit behind his back.
The "group" would get the highest grade for the "group" project if you let Woz do the whole 100%. He's such a decent bloke he probably wouldn't mind one bit.
and gets hardly any of the credit
I remember reading in a book that Woz was so unassuming that he went to the bank to deposit 100 grand. He got in line with everyone else and patiently waited. When he handed the check for deposit, the teller thought he was trying to rob them. The manager came out and told Woz that there was no need for him to queue and he could just go to the manager directly if he's going to deposit large sums. And he replied "Why? Everyone else is standing in line". Also his daughter later said that she had no idea they were that rich when she was growing up. She thought they were just upper middle class. They lived in the same old house even when Woz had all those millions.
I think its smart. No need to spend money for a big house just so you stand out as long if its safe. And I also like thats he is a honest and a hard working man!
From his biography they lived in a place that had more than one tennis court when the first kid came out.
He also used to stand in line with every one else to get the new iPhone.
HE still sounds like a kid in a candy shop. His passion is what made Apple.
Lee lol
i was about to say it, you're absolutely right
What made Apple, in fact , is looking for big money ! No passion in this but $$$ quest
it's Jobs' passion that made Apple so big. Wozniak was just a tool for success. Cope harder
@@apocalypticbean you got it backwards asshat
I don't even like Apple. But how can you not love this man? And his technical achievements when he started the company are the stuff of legend.
and as if his techincal achievements weren't enough, back in the early 80s he hired and chilled w/ van halen to play a music festival. can not respect this OG bro enough
because this man is much much larger then Apple will ever be. He is a giant.
0:29 "$666.66" ];-D.
@@madigorfkgoogle9349he actually isn't. He left after making 2 early computers way before apple became a giga giant
@@DragonZombie2000Do you realise that without Woz, there'd be no Apple in the first place, let alone a giant whatever.
Mad respect for this guy.
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@Origami Mambo Project congratulation, you just made me mad.
@Origami Mambo Project yeah, sadly i sinked down below the sea. Im wrecked by the fucking useless u-boats.
A thousand times more respect for Wasniak than for Jobs.
Rob Fowler hear hear 👍
Steve Jobs was definitely the face of apple. But there wouldn’t have been a Apple without woz
Jobs was the face, Woz was the seed. Jobs saw an opportunity w Woz, and any other savvy entrepreneur could have started the company, but Jobs was the one that pushed for better products and faster. So in the end both were needed for Apple to be where it is.
And there wouldn't have been Apple without Jobs. I owned a computer company in the late 90's at the age of 18. I had built my first computer at age 6. But being in the business I realized that computer "technicians" had no business skills and I spent more time running the business than messing with computers and I never got to do the fun stuff. I never invented anything like Apple and my computer business was sold due to me having a lot of health problems at an early age, I think because I was a lot like Steve Jobs. I still talk to some of my old technicians but they were like Woz. Some of them tried starting businesses and all failed. Woz might've invented the coolest thing but without someone to invent and grow the BUSINESS, Apple never would've became Apple without both of them.
@@tedh1979 They both clearly needed each other. Apple doesn't exist without 2 Steve's. It was a great partnership.
The knife cut both ways buddy. Both steves needed each other. They are both part of the equation.
Woz was the heart definitely
I don't think Jobs is undeserving, but THIS guy deserves books, movies, and a lot more credit than he is given now, but do you know why he does not get it? ---> 4:43
+Ulises Calvo Because he's not a salesman or businessman. He also not a psychotic, overambitious mega-ego with adoption issues and a love for adulation. Both men made tech history, only one is an interesting story. Xerox PARC was crammed full of geniuses like Wozniak. Ever heard of any of them? The world knows Woz becasue of Jobs.
+Ulises Calvo This guy makes himself more than he is. He is not Dennis Ritchie, Henry Edward Roberts (inventor of Personal Computer... way before Wozniak), Howard Aiken and Grace Hopper. Both Steves had a tremendous impact on Wall Street, but not computing.
+cabrioleur
The Woz floppy controller is considered by a lot of hardware engineers to be one of the best pieces of engineering of all time. The whole thing was pretty great, actually.
Joseph Shaul I believe that you mean Alan Shugart's floppy. Woz's modification was just that, a simple modification of the Shugart's floppy.
+NuggetOfBlueGold Isn't Woz teaching computer science at University?
He is the real genius behind Apple's beginning. Admirable and humble guy.
@Ben Alvis I know. I was referring to the technical genius he was. Jobs was of course the innate sales person.
The two Steve’s is the geniuses behind Apple
@@dariusfarrel3228 The one would not have been successful without the other...
I met and worked with Steve Wozniak in 2009 for the first time. And what struck me about Steve was how quick and succinctly he spoke. I think someone must have slowed him down a little here to produce this video because he usually talks a lot faster than that. He's one of the nicest man you'll ever meet and one of the most caring people on the planet. I think this video really reflects the inner person that Steve Wozniak is and how he really really wanted to bring technology into the home.
the mark of a TRUE genius.
+Shinigami Lee So why did you meet him?
***** So how good are you at programming?
Emir Tulumcu
Why do you ask?
***** I'm curious. I like programming.
I once met Steve in Vegas at Caesar's Palace and told him about how we used his computers to create software to help special needs children communicate to the world. I shook his hand and gave him a thank you from thousands of children who would if they could. Woz was kind and very moved by what I had to say...
Steve Jobs probably would've replied with something arrogant or belittling.
@@acoustic61 I have a letter written to me by Jobs which many would consider as harsh. The man was all business...
@@brianjay9811 If a world scientific government was composed by people like wozniak, we would have peace and prosperity for all mankind everywhere, we could aim for great progresses like the end of famine, of desertification, of pollution, and conquer the solar system, use a.i., automation, dna engineering, fusion energy etc to terminate the money system, market, competition, wage work, capitalism and imperialism; if the world was run by people like jobs, we would instantly have a world war
@@brianjay9811 could you share any excerpts?
@@opts9 Sure. The set up is that in 1983, I was a poor artist living in Alaska. Due to my desire for an Apple II and noticing a photo of Steven sitting in a living room with no artwork on his walls, I decided to ship him a very large painting, titled "Gramps", of an old man sitting on a tomato truck, in exchange for an Apple IIe. I also included a program I had written on a borrowed Apple, which I hoped, with Jobs help, would make me millions. I dug deep into my finances to have the painting crated and shipped to California. A month later, I received this letter:
"I'd like to thank you for sending "Gramps" and your 10,000 Faces program; I *do* like Gramps, and hope your programming work brings you great success.
I regret that we won't be able to send the Apple IIe that you requested; you're right, I would like to help if I could, but we have a very strict policy that all distribution of our products must be handled directly by an Apple dealer, as this is the only way you can be assured of prompt and courteous service and support for your computer.
You mentioned in your letter that "Gramps" is one of your favorite works and worth approximately $1000; I'd feel very bad about keeping your work and not offering the compensation you asked for, so I thought it best to return it to you, and let you have the chance to perhaps sell it and be fairly paid for your efforts. It is being shipped separately.
Your interest in our products is very much appreciated; again, I wish you the very best.
Sincerely,
Steve (signed in felt pen)
Steven P. Jobs
Chairman
Board of Directors
Well I guess this was not as hard-nosed as I remembered. Now forty years later, I still have the painting and sell prints of it on my FineArtAmerica page. My plan is to put this letter up on eBay, now that I'm back in Alaska and looking to finance yet another great Apple computer...
America loves ambition. America loves money. America loves Steve Jobs.
I'll take Woz any day... I love the Woz..
+Larkinchance Agree :D
me too
+Larkinchance Jobs is one of of the most overrated persons ever involved in technology.
+Larkinchance While having ambition is hardly a bad thing (as well as just wanting to make money to have a better life with in reason) I do agree that many Americans have their priorities messed up and the fact that Steve is along a house hold name and most people will draw a blank stare at the mention of Wozniak is a testament to that fact (that's not to say I don't think Steve deserves to praised since he still did a lot to get Apple off the ground but in a perfect world they would of both have had top billing).
All in perfect world it should be: American's love ambition. American's love innovation, building up industry and making a better lives for themselves. Americans love Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak.
+S. D. Gentry In terms of engineering, but most people respect him for Pixar and taking Apple from a company with a market cap of $2.3 Billion - $314 Billion. Steve Wozniak was a brilliant engineer and the 17 year life span of the Apple II shows that, but he couldn't have saved Apple in 1997.
Ultimately, I’ll wager Woz is a happier man than Jobs was.
Oh definitely, it shows too!
It looks more as a shy nerd that when you get to know him are more charismatic that you expected.
I know I’d rather work with Woz than Jobs
You can tell!
Jobs was a psychopath.
And more alive.
"Too bad, I wrote it in my own language."
Legend.
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It’s nice to see Woz can joke about himself
*Steve Wozniak was always humble and soft spoken, he was overshadowed by smart talker Steve Jobs however tech people know that Wozniak gave birth to apple, he was the brain behind everything.*
In a lot of ways you really need both types to take off like Apple did. The really technically-inclined people often aren't the best at marketing. Woz needed that somewhat psychopathic personality in Jobs to really slam it home.
If you read his autobiography, which I recommend, he's not exactly someone I'd call humble (big fan of him though).
LOTS of great ideas fizzle out before they become mainstream. A great idea in this age requires resources, connections, money, and yes even luck and timing. Both Steves were required to bring all the ingredients together for this 'Apple Pie'.
As a computer programmer, I don't want fame. I would be happy to have a talking head take the fame for my work, as long as I can keep the credit.
@@quailman he doesn't look humble even in this video. Not that it's a weakness
Lead solder in the mouth, no fume extractor whatsoever, no esd precautions. Old school engineering.
I saw that and remembered that, I have recently started worrying about how back in the days, I used to put Pb in my mouth like him. I'll probably have some mental illness when I get older (lead does a number on the neuron connections), geee I hope not.
I saw that and thought "dam if he's did it every day for years, I think I should start doing it for my Sunday projects".
+Awesomeman1987 I mean the solder in my mouth
Electrostatic discharges was not much of an issue with (mainly) TTL and NMOS ICs though.
LOL. I was thinking the exact same thing :)
Do you ever get tired of telling the story? NEVER.
Gotta appreciate that level of sincerity and absolute devotion.
This is awesome. Love the last words "I'll stay at the bottom of the org chart being an engineer because that's where I want to be. " In a society that praises the front man, It's comforting to know that not all of the greats desired fame and fortune, some were driven by passion. Kinda gives me hope.
Steve Job was passionate for technology not just because it provide fame for him but also to fulfill a dream of what computer he wanted.
@@blugaledoh2669 who said anything about steve jobs.
@@xdonvito When you said the front man, I thought you meant Jobs.
I supposed I extrapolate too much.
There's no hope
I don't know any greats that desire fame or fortune. Those who do are not great they just look for some one who is and ride them to the top.
"I want to be at the bottom of the org chart, being an engineer" What a sincere and happy man Steve is. I hope to have just half the contentment in my life that he has.
Thanks! I heard "orchard", and couldn't make sense of it
@@DavidG2P the Apple orchard?
"...be at the bottom of the org chart, being an engineer." but have the Apple stock. Priceless! (actually, mostly priced.)
I'm doing a PhD right now I'm computer science, and I can't stress enough how much I agree with this.
Well, he's wealthy af, so why not. He owns Apple shares and is on their payroll still.
Wow.. Wozniak genuinely appreciates and loves engineering. no fame, no glory, no wealth. Jobs got lucky as hell finding this man who wanted nothing more than to do what he loved and took advantage of that soft spot.
actually his partner also fucked him over many occasions. read up on more financial dealings.
Jobs was a car salesman.
Woz is famous and wealthy.
Liam H Rogen did nice potray Wozinak in that movie.
Woz has 9 billion in networth m8,research before type...
Steve Wozniak, such a great guy 😃👍
Fun Fact : when he was in primary school he took an IQ test and his score was 200+ at such a young age .
If anybody could have figured out how to squeeze a headphone jack onto the iPhone 7 it would've been him.
This comment is so underrated!
Yeah, they approached him asking for help with that. Problem is, they offered him fame and fortune in return. So he refused
they probably just deliberately omitted it to sell more of their wireless headphones tbh
@@TwenOalley You'd be right, and therein lies the fundamental difference between the two Steves. Woz would put the standard jack in because it benefited everyone and made logical sense. Jobs changes it to a proprietary connection, charges extra for the headphones to connect to it, charges 3rd party manufacturer's up the wazoo for rights to make devices to connect to it, and sues the fuck out of anyone who dared to open the device & reverse engineer the connector to get it back the way it should have been.
I'm glad Jobs decided to treat his cancer "holistically" like a dumb ass so by the time he realized he was an idiot it was too late. Now he eats dirt for eternity. Fuck you Jobs!
One less hole to drill
"It represents yourself when you do a great design."
This guy is so legendary and inspiring
Or is he just that serious and nerdy engineer type, but with more luck than most people?
(I like him though, so don't get me wrong.)
@@herrfriberger5 Why can't be be both?
@@GamingBlake2002 Sure!
It's really sad that that is not everyone's mantra on this planet. Can you imagine what it would be like if everyone took pride in their work?
@@TheWitchOvAgnesi It would be like before the industrial revolution, i.e. like the 1700s. I'm not saying that's entirely a bad thing, but that is what it would be like.
This Steve is way cooler than the other
He is nothing.
@@crisgriffin3042 this steve is a maker the other was a taker.
And alive
I think the same
i think this steve is cooler than minecraft steve
Wozniak was the CPU and Jobs was the Computer Case.
Jobs was the OS.
@@MakeULaf5illy - Interesting but Wozniak would have programmed the OS as well. :)
Computer case is too much credit.
More like, Woz was the power supply, Jobs was the CPU.
Steve Jobs was also the screen and the mouse and the keyboard and the box and the marketing and the success of Apple.
The funny thing is that Steve Wozniak liked upgradability so he made his machines very modular, something Steve Jobs did not like.
for money and aftersales reasons
@@gabyu I've seen in other videos that he did that because he knew their customers wanted that, including himself. You can make money with modularity or with how Apple does it nowadays.
@MR TRUTH Yourself is a satanist
Want to buy a dongle for your dongle, to go with your dongle. Its all extra though.
Geek vs psychopath.
“Someday I’m going to own a big computer”
Starts Trillion dollar tech company
A trillion-dollar tech company that focuses on thin laptops
@@willjones3478 and sells all our data and privacy
@ was. Now its all about money . Not quality
@ sounds about right
...and buys a BIG wristwatch instead
i love how excited he is when he tells his stories
Childlike excitement can move mountains.
True passion I reckon.
As a Software Engineer, woz is one of those whom I take as a role model. This guys is a legend!
What about ISIS? Isn't that all yours role model 😂
A nod to Margaret Hamilton, Software Engineer!
Never actually listened to Woz speak before, but I'm glad to see that even after all these years, he still seems passionate about computing.
You should hear him talk about pranking people!
you can hear the passion in his voice, thats worth more than an empire
You can see it too, he's not just putting the boards back in the case and typing out some code he memorised before the video to create some B-roll for the cameras. He's actually having fun, lost in the moment :)
His children might die hungry, so the grass is always greener, kid.
Jobs was the face of Apple but Wozniak was truly the heart.
Jobs was the Dick of Apple but Wozniak was the balls
@@blackpanter2092 Jobs was the eggs but Woz was the sperm.
Woz's name survived in the floppy disk controllers for the Apple II: WOZ machine and IWM for Integrated Woz machine.
Black Panter wtf lol
The brain and heart I'd say
The single most underrated individual of all times.
I wouldn't be typing this and you wouldn't be reading it if it weren't for the Woz.
It's a shame what the company's turned into recently...and it's also a shame that this guy didn't get the credit he deserved.
They will feign admiration while completely ignoring everything he stood for. Happens in most big companies after some time.
RetrOhm Steve Wozniak built this great computer with weeks and weeks of design. now we have no headphone jacks
Yes, all the 'when jobs was here'
Josh Mar well you have to admit, they have massively stagnated since Jobs died.
+Josh Mar Jobs was a great leader, advertiser and generally a good bussinesman, meanwhile Wozniak was an engineer and programmer
So this is the kind of person you need to be to make history. A person obsessed with your work. The kind of person who doesn't say "Well... I could probably make this a little bit more efficient, but i'll save it for the next evolution". A person who says "Screw all this hard work, it's not the best i can do!".
+Cristi Neagu "The kind of person who doesn't say "Well... I could probably make this a little bit more efficient, but i'll save it for the next evolution"
That's exactly what Steve Jobs would have said, and what Apple is like now.
I've never liked Apple but I love Woz. He's SO utterly passionate about what he does, beaming with pride and happiness, very grounded and in tune with his beliefs. A very rich man indeed.
This guy is a living legend! I have the utmost respect for him.
The Woz doesn't get nearly the credit he deserves. It is always about Steve Jobs :(
It is because of a management culture where the top manager pretend that he is doing all important inventions and decisions. And sadly journalists eat that BS.
This is actually the opposite. Everyone understand why WOZ is good, because programming is complex right...but no one really get it why Jobs is so important. They will say, Woz is the genius, Jobs is just the salesman, but the point is, you need to be a genius to sell a genius product...
A genius product need a genius marketer. If not, it will simply be another great idea that didn't work.
People don't always recognize genius, and sometimes they recognize it, but aren't willing to take a chance on funding it. It takes a certain type of person to push new ideas, and that's what Jobs did.
I'm not saying he was a good person, or that he could have done it alone, but he's had a HUGE impact on the world we live in, even without engineering chops.
I've always been a huge fan of Woz (I grew up in the Bay Area where they were basically heroes), but Jobs was important too, even if he was a dick.
@@michaelpatnaude Not exactly
The true genius behind Apple
+Paul Potter Woz is genius...Jobs is a Pardigm Shifter. Ensemble those two elements together and you get a winner algorithm
YSoSrs? Nop...revolution happen when technology become accessible to the consumer. The invention is the starting point, but making it mainstream will ask you more than the marketing guy. You need a paradigm shifter...you need a Steve Jobs. Unfortunately, most people are novice in industrial organization and will claim that Jobs is just the marketing guy. Right now there is thousand of great inventions ready to change the every day life...most of them will fail.
+YSoSrs? If you were alive back then, you would of seen the reverse was true. The color IIgs with its superior hardware was a piece of crap next to the little closed Macintosh with its monochrome screen. It sounds counter intuitive, but it was true, because it was a paradigm shift. Mac OS was miles ahead of Apple ][ dos. The Apple ][ was stuck in the past while the Mac was a leap into the future. And its little mono screen was superior to the big fuzzy color tv screen, because its pixels were perfectly square, sharp, crisp and clean, compared to the tri-rectangular fuzzy pixel of a ][gs monitor. Back then I worked in a Software store and pirated the whole store... and had a Mac back at home. The only thing we did on the store ][gs was play Tetris and Hellcats over the Pacific. On the Mac you could do lasar desk top publishing... on the ][gs maybe a housewife could print out a shitty certificate in Certificate Maker.
Everyone is praising Steve Jobs yet he was more of the salesman. I've always thought most of the admiration should go to him.
funny that you failed to address anything he said.
WOZ is the true heart of Apple..Shame it has turned Rotten over time.
He does what he does 'cause he loves it. That's why he should be remembered more than Jobs.
no, jobs was. just like how gates brought the windows OS from a random programmer for 50k (which he sold for millions), without a leader woz would have been the same.
SAW9 how has I?
Woz in all his glory was simply a violinist in the symphony Steve led. Of course he played a huge role but it can not be understated Steve's influence in being able to push his engineers and influence people around him.
Wozniak and Jobs/ Tesla and Edison
it seems like this guy is the one who's passion created apple
If jobs hadn't made it a business it probably would have remained a pet project.
History is written by the victors, in blood...
@@lusarshameli7057 Apple needed a someone like Jobs, but a person that sells someone else's ideas are a dime a dozen, the ones that create are rare.
@@Seven_Leaf Steve Job's business skills are the number one in the world, top notch, he is the #1 business person of all time. He turned a failing company (Apple in the 1990s) into the most successful company in the world and introduced technology that changed the world completely. He also founded NeXT Computer and Pixar, both of which were successful companies in their own right, and Pixar created Toy Story, Monsters Inc, The Incredibles, Finding Nemo, etc, and sold to Disney for billions. If you read the founding Pixar book, Steve Jobs was on top of that company the whole time too, it is so incredible the work he did.
Got some tears into my eyes. That passion, those beginnings.. love this man.
Steve Jobs was a genius salesman. Steve Wozniak, on the other hand, is a wizard.
It seems so simple now: attach a typewriter keyboard to a box and let people use it. Woz was a brilliant SOB, that's for sure.
It’s why he’s called The Wizard of Woz.
Somehow, the Woz staying up until 4am makes me feel a little better about watching RUclips until 3am
😂😂🙏
except he was most likely doing something productive...
@@natenorrish The horrible thing about the internet is it allows you to trick yourself into thinking its productive watching these kinds of videos when its not :(
How? He actually does something productive an meaningful
Don't feel bad I do the same thing. RUclips is addicting
I don't have words to describe this man, there 1 in millions like him who are just driven by passion without any kind of greed, a pure genius and not being an asshole about it.
I read Woz's book, "I Woz" several years ago. My impression of Woz was that he was happy at the fundamental level. Remote control genius to say the least. He's always going to be a man I respect greatly. Thanks for the video.
"It had to be that artistically perfect to me because it represents yourself when you do a great design."
-Steve Wozniak
Apple Inc. co-founder
There will come a time (is almost here now) when the late 70s, early 80s will become a mythological time per the early microcomputer revolution. Woz will always have his legendary edifice in that mythos
Gerald Ballesteros ❤️
That is when I had to google for any discussion on Woz having a hint on Asberger :)
That’s funny🤓I was involved in electronics, product and board design many years ago (early 90’s) and when I would layout the board or even first draw the schematics I always thought of it as a functional piece of art too. Maximizing the function AND the aesthetics. I would easily work 40-50 hours in 3 days on a design because I was enjoying it so much I would lose track of the time. I just figured I was weird. Maybe I am lol
When I write a program try to follow the Woz's principles because it helps for example, I can feel the program is doing and running into a wall.. Thank you Steve.
I have a *huge* respect for Wozniak, for staying true to his core self, for wanting to stay an engineer and not get carried away with any money hurricane. Hats off, sir.
Steve Wozniak absolutely does not get enough credit on this Earth for simply being the genius he is. Never change Woz.
The happiest people in life are ones who keep life simple & humble 😁
The nice thing about wealth, having the time to do what you really want.
Now let's hear about current sitiuation with Apple from our special guest: *LOUIS ROSSMANN*
Louis Rossmann has actually praised Apple in the past. Louis isn't just an Apple brand hater. He gives credit when credit is due, and criticism when it's needed.
@@Johnnyboycurtis Yes, but it's mostly criticism....because their products are garbage, and their business practices are atrocious.
numberyellow Apple is doing better than before. You guys focus on specs and hate, while Apple is swimming in their millions. No tech company is even close
@@chydi10 apple is doing better than before according to you, because of imbeciles who don't realize how inferior apple is!
And that 1000dollar monitor stand.
where would steve be without woz?
+Scott Johnson Where would Woz be without Steve?
No telling. Woz is lucky Steve didn't steal the whole enchilada from him, like Mark Cuban did the technology for Broadcast.com. One things for sure : there's be no Apple computer without Woz. Period. Steve couldn't make a computer. Other people made the Mac, with Apple II revenue supporting the losing Mac division. Hey, I have three Macs, so I'm not an apple hater, but please.... Jobs was a marketer, and clever re-inventor. I mean cell phones and mp3's were around for 10 years, but he had the vision to put them together. but he's not Leonardo Davinchi. He's Mark Cubanish. He did'n't really succeed until Pixar, when he became a better manager according to insiders. Mac was a failure, Next was a failure.
I believe they're both equally as important to the company. There would be no Apple without Steve Jobs and there would be no Apple without Wozniak. Wozniak made the computer but without Jobs, Woz wouldn't know how to make it user friendly. Just like how you said Jobs didn't really succeed until Pixar (which I don't really agree with because making a billion-dollar company at the age of 30 is a success in my book; nonetheless I see your point), Woz left Apple in 1985 and then in the 2000s tried to start various other companies which failed. To summarise, both have pros and cons, and I think both played a very important role in Apple. In the end, in my opinion, they're both wouldn't be where they are now without the other.
Let me clarify that. Steve's falures began with Lisa, then Macintosh, then Next. He finally succeeded with Pixar. The First Apple II was not user friendly in today's sense of the word. The Macintosh was, but it was a failure financially. The apple II revenue supported development of the Mac, and Steve's idea was to kill the Apple II and focus the entire company on Macintosh. In that sense, it was a failure. And that's what forced him out.
+Scott Johnson He'd probably be a successful used car salesman.
Steve Wozniak is the true creator of Apple and i have the utmost respect for him, Steve Jobs was nothing but a salesman and a greedy selfish one at that!
I have always admired Woz aproach to life. He's really a sophisticated man with humble and funnie attitude.
He perhaps didn't need that kind of wealth but he sure as hell deserved it.
Very true. Atleast a billion for starting a tech revolution.
@@viveksharma9564 *trillion
Steve Wozniak needs to sale his share to apple and get out . He needs to create a new company. I bet he could create some amazing products . There's a reason he still uses a iPhone 6 in 2019...
That guy he did sell... very early on
@@CamburkeRealEstate no he still owns quite a bit of apple. It allows him to do what he wants. He did give away or sell very cheaply some of his shares to Apple employees, effectively making them wealthy too.
The last time I heard woz was volunteering with schools to teach computer science and engineering at the elementary level. Giving back to the industry he loves.
I'm using a razr v3 in 2019. Whats that mean? Lol
Wozniak is no idiot, he is quite well diversified with net worth in the billions.
@@oldtwinsna8347 100 mill not billons
Seriously, Jobs just found a treasure waiting to be uncovered when he used Wozniaks passion and goodwill.
Wozniak is to Jobs as Tesla is to Edison
Hrothgar Totally right!!!
That's the best way I've ever heard it put.
Hrothgar Well said !.. I like it.
+Hrothgar Steve never back-stabbed Woz and left him to die alone and broke like Edison did to Tesla.
+sexyloser Well no, he died first, of course. But, he did take the credit, and most of the money, for work that was the creative impetus of others. He was a businessman, who's skill was at effectively marketing and selling technology that he did not create. Jobs was a salesman, while Wozniak was a creator.
Why does this guy inspire me so much more than Steve Jobs?
Because he is the real deal. He did it because he loved it. The man never worked a day in his life.
Wozniak is an example of what a passion and love for something can get you. Jobs is an example of what greed can get you.
Jobs was ultimately unnecessary because most of what he did was reiterate what people wanted.
@@kirbstomp8041 Jobs make stuff better
@@jgaint7912 I equally respect Steve Jobs
I hate Apple but I love Wozniak. Amazing man.
No one cares.
Accept you, apparently. Thanks for taking your time to tell me how do you dont care enough to take your time. Let me guess Apple fan boy?
TheDestruct0r Except
Dude Dudeler i love a human named no one, he cares very much
Woz talks about his creations like a little kid at show and tell. He’s just happy to talk with you about something he enjoys. Woz is a genuinely great man.
It seems both Apple Steves complemented each other really well. Woz appears to be a very nice, sincere and genuine person.
And the complement of 'nice, sincere and genuine' is 'nasty, insincere and fake'. Wozniak was, and is, by far the better of the two, but unfortunately you need people like Jobs as well. I am sure that Wozniak would never have wanted to produce such a money-making greedy company that Apple has become.
Imagine if he was head of design over at Apple now ...
He even says himself that he isn't a good leader and he doesn't want to be one either so it wouldn't be too good. He could work as a programmer or maybe CEO though.
+Jonathan Saunders Wozniak's true talent was that he was obsessive and the effort that he put in showed in his technical designs but that's not what drives Apple today. It's about style and branding now and Wozniak just wouldn't be right for that. Yes, Apple products might be more bug free if they were as technically obsessive as Wozniak was but that would only mean the new products wouldn't get to market in a timely fashion. Remember that his last project at Apple was a Universal TV remote control years before people even knew what a Universal remote was, problem is that what he came up with was so technically difficult to program that it was essentially unusable, of course he also never finished the design to his satisfaction because he realized that he didn't need to be so obsessive over his work anymore, that he could just enjoy the millions that he had instead, so he just dropped it all.
+John Wang I'm sure Wozniak would've been an android guy
John Wang is this information accurate???
@@johnwang9914 apple does need to put their products up in a timely fashion no ones buying their products its getting to expensive and all for the wrong reasons
Incredible...this guys reward was not the money, but to just have a computer. He loved what he was doing more than the billions he would earn. Amazing.
Steve Woz was a hell of an engineer, and we don’t hear enough about what he did compared to Jobs.
You will after his passing. It's always like that with artists.
I love Steve Wozniak. He lives this stuff. You can tell it's not fake and he's not a fake person. That makes him a very decent person to me.
without Wozniak, there wouldn't be Apple
Michael McNamara Without Steve there would also not be Apple. It goes hand in hand: great product design and someone who can sell it.
@@chnolte False. There is 100% no chance of apple without Woz, he is the sole maker of the first couple of apple machines, jobs had nothing to do with making them. Without jobs Woz might have taken LONGER to get his machines made public, but there is nothing to have stopped him from doing so, but without Woz jobs would have a whole buncha charisma and no machines to sell because he had NO CLUE how to make a computer.
I dear to say that Microsoft would be the same if not for Wozniak
Not bad for two guys who once worked for HP.
@@shawnpitman876 You need to learn more about what actually happened.
It's ironic that due to his own actions he never got that big computer, only little ones.
I remember that computer geek on "The Simpsons" proudly proclaiming that 50 years from now computers will twice as fast and four times bigger.
In informatics, big is little.
The Apple ][ was about as big as it gets. It was one of the main reasons that IBM got into the personal computer market (another long story). It was also the computer of choice for many schools, introducing a generation to computers. So it may have been small, but it had a big impact.
@@bobblum5973 The first computer I ever used was an Apple IIe. Learned how to program in command line BASIC on it. Great high school days.
@@stephenwright8824 I still have my Apple ][+, 48K RAM, still only 40 column uppercase only! Never got the language card for 64k or more, or an 80-column card, but I still programmed the heck out of it. Learned a lot about computers and hardware that carried me on to this day.
I'm no Apple fanboy but Woz is so likeable. Mass respect for the guy.
I met Steve Wozniak at the San Francisco airport. I went up to him and said “Sir, I would be remiss if I didn’t say, ‘Thank you for your service.”
What did he say?
@@browsertab I'm betting it was something like "thanks"
@@jasnterry1313 Would have been cool if he said "Security! A commoner is attempting to communicate with me. Have him strung up and quartered at once."
@@browsertab yes, but a simple "go away peasant" would suffice
I met him briefly the first time I went to Comdex back in '82. Seemed like a very humble down-to-earth guy, especially in contrast to all the uptight grey suits running around the convention floor at the time.
Love the "bottom of the org chart" comment. I never put it that way before, but I feel exactly the same way. It's nice to be needed but not to be responsible for people.
I agree. It’s fun to be building stuff, and not be stuck managing teams or other business matters.
For sure. The only person I want to be in charge of is me. I've turned down a "promotion" many times as I did not wish to engage in adult day care.
Agreed, that stood out to me too. I didn't become an engineer so I could be a manager. I became an engineer...to engineer. To some people that's an odd concept.
Do you realize this is the guy who put on the US Festival. Twice.
This is what a person with true passion looks like
Woz was an absolute genius at PCB layout and TTL logic. Steve Jobs had once worked at Atari. Nolan Bushnell was complaining about the production costs of their coin-op games. This was pre-microprocessor when everything was made with discrete logic. Each game used 100-150 TTL chips and he wanted to cut the cost on the game Breakout. Jobs enlisted Woz and Woz came up with a design that used only 47 or 48 chips! The only problem was that Atari couldn't use it. His design was so clever and used so many subtle layout tricks that the Atari engineers couldn't replicate it for mass production! They had to redesign it, and it ended up using 100+ chips. On a sad side-note, Bushnell offered $700 for the design and a $5,000 bonus for using less than 50 chips. Jobs gave Wos the $350 50/50 split of the $700, but kept the 5 grand for himself and never told Woz.
yep that is jobs...
Mentat001 Yep, thats a sad story. Even back in the day, jobs was greedy...
Jack kirby / bill finger story
I love him, he sees like a smart, genuine, dorky, lovable guy.
Someone that is definitely a role model and hero for me because making computers was like the ultimate smartness since my dad and grandmother did it while I grew up in the 80’s and 90’s.
SEEMS like a smart...? no he IS smart................ clearly.
whenever I think of someone who absolutely LOVES their craft, steve wozniak always comes up
As a Commodore fanboy teen in the 80's, I *still* never had anything except respect for Woz. The man is a geek's geek, with a genius and passion that endears him to every person who loves computers. Now that I'm older, I absolutely love looking at his designs and how they work. I don't blame him at all for wanting to stay on the technical side of the house; work is just better when it's something you love doing. Long Live Woz.
"I as a mathematician...and a satanist...love repeating digits."
hahaha
"I as a mathematician and a Christian... love repenting digits."
a joke for the autistic people, can someone explain the punchline?
Kopuz seriously? 666 is sign of the devil I think you can figure out the joke
Lmao
Woz was/is the real creative genius behind apple’s insanely great products; not to mention the fact that he is just a great guy all around.. Humble, intelligent, well spoken and very down to earth; I wonder if he realizes just how much of an inspiration he is......
Steve and Steve really where two geniuses in each their respect. One happened to be very charismatic, a bit psyco and an excellent salesman as well, the other is just a likeable guy who doesn't care much for money or fame.
Yet another perfect example of how hard it is for specialist to become a businessman. It's all in the mindset.
Mad respect for his achievement.
In my opinion Steve Wozniak stayed true to himself and his own passion. Steve Jobs on the other hand probably tried to be like X or Y at the time the investments rolled in. In my eyes, that did not work out so well. This can be a lesson to all of us trying to live our lives to the full potential. What ever the full potential might be for you.
He is the real hero! The one in the shadow with big heart and passion, humble.
How can you not love this guy? Seeing him on DWTS, how gracious & humble & real he is ??
The consummate genius, a modern day Renaissance Man.
The passion. The positivity. The creativity. The engineering. The commitment. Woz' contribution to human development into the digital age is difficult to overstate.
The big message here is that.. Wozniak would be a famous amazing guy no matter what happened. its in his bones. While Jobs, without Wozniak could have been just another "Prick" (not my words, but common description) business man..
I suppose its only us more tech savvy people that truly understand this.
Woz is the one guy I would like to meet out of all the people in the world.. (If I had a choice.)
I agree with much of that but like you say. Steve would not have reached his pinnacle without Woz. The point is Woz is a far more unique, and important ingredient then Jobs was to the formula. Woz could have been partnered with numerous cut throat business man and been extremely successful.
I have met many sales men that can sell anything.. It's winning the billion to one chance you have the right tech behind you that can pull it off that makes companies like Apple, Google, Facebook.
You don't see these Goliath buying small startups for their sales teams. It's the tech talent...
Finally, I am not a big fan of putting Jobs on a pedestal when it is common knowledge that he took advantage of even his closest friends such as Woz.
***** There where a lot of start up small computer companies back in those days.. It was the technical genius that made the Apple pull ahead.. So this idealistic tech combination with shrewd businessman was not uncommon (At the time). I have met a lof of shrewd businessman, putting it nicely, over the years but very very few tech geniuses. As such, I see it more as Woz was the key ingredient and Jobs was a very good launching pad. My experiences over the years has shown, Jobs was lucky to meet Woz, while Woz could have met many versions of "Jobs".
And personally I think a man who can be true to himself and his passions and not cheat and destroy his own friends in the path they chose in life.. is far more a person we should hold in high regard..
I find it very frustrating that we hold individuals that are well known for F-ing people over intentionally to get ahead, and our children pick up on this. And people wonder why the world is going to hell with global warming etc.. When these are the lessons we teach.
***** Sorry, I have to disagree.. Woz commented on the fist Jobs/Kutcher film, mentioning many of the errors in the story. Predominantly the fact that he (Jobs) stood on the shoulders of amazing engineers. And predominantly that Jobs was pushed out for good reasons. And the way he said it sounds like he agreed with this. After the Apple II, all Apple products were a failure. (Woz's words)
Apple went close to bankruptcy clearly due to engineering failure. It was the KEY to why they failed. OS9 was a complete disaster and their attempts at a multitasking OS was also a complete disaster and never saw the light of day.
Jobs, if anything realised that engineering was the key, and NextStep was the result.. and in the end was also the saviour of Apple. Steve was asked back because he was really one of the only options Apple had. How many people could they go to to bring a competitive OS into the company over night, so to speak..
If anything, Jobs had a good eye for gravitating to the core element of all the most successful companies of today. Leading engineering talent. (But I personally think engineers gravitated towards him as Jobs was lucky enough with Woz, and other Woz type people hoped lightning would strike again)
Look at all the leading companies like Google, Facebook, Microsoft. They are where they are today, and most people would agree, due to engineering.. not Salesman/Businessman.
The issue here is good engineers are a LOT, and I mean a LOT harder to find then a businessman.
Lets look at Commodore. Again made on the back of amazing engineering. amazing use of co-processors and many advanced hardware engineering techniques common in todays computers. But if failed. Why, well the engineering was stifled. The core talent left. And as such, Commodore is now gone. Ie, without the amazing engineering, those companies are gone.
Who is more important? I am sorry, but history from my perspective. its not the businessmen.. Yes they push the engineers to change the world, but they need those engineers first. Again, businessmen NEED the engineers, while engineers level of success can be larger or smaller depending on the talent of those businessmen.
And again, yes Jobs took them a long way, but for talents we should not praise or honor, as those characteristics are not healthy for the sole of the planet.
***** Without Jobs, Wozniak would've been a full time engineer at HP, one of the largest technology companies in the world. Not as rich or famous as he is today because of Apple, but a highly paid engineer nonetheless. Jobs, on the other hand, would probably still be volunteering at the local Apple orchard or travelling in India with no direction in life due to not having a formal education and not having developed the skills to make it in a respectable job. I'm not sure how you see it, but Jobs needed Wozniak more than he needed Jobs.
***** Mediocre is kinda mean. He could have learned how to become a business man himself if interested in sales.
I just read this man's biography and I am flabbergasted by Woz's genius. The elegant (and minimalist) solutions that he found are just astonishing. He single-handedly reinvented the computer concept and created technology that was still in use even 10-15 yrs afterwards (such as the floppy driver). And he did this with no help, all by himself. Jesus.
goma3 Yes that's why he is a legend as far as nerd's go!
IBM et al made their money selling big expensive machines in ones and twos. Woz came at the problem from a completely different viewpoint.
IBM invented the floppy disk in the 1970s. Wasn't Woz.
You are the real man of Apple...Big respect
Although I didn't and will never hold an Apple device.....
Woz was my hero from the day I bought my first Apple II+. I designed music cards for it and went on to get a BSEE degree. I loved that the circuit schematics and source code to the BIOS were included in the back of the manual. A far cry from the Apple of today. Thank you Woz!
As I listen to his story I can't help but feel Wozniak to be a victim of exploitation by Steve Jobs, taking his creation and selling it.
Wozniak badly needed Jobs, otherwise his design would NEVER take off.
Woz failed to pitch his design, especially what would become the Apple I, to HP.
Wozniak got to tinker and make money off it thanks to Jobs. It was a partnership that benefited both parties.
It's the Founder all over again
@@jokerman1964 What about Bill Gates?
Without this man, jobs would've never existed.
@Paul : 😂😂😂😂 Not literally, dude. I laughed so hard.
My Reviews Without Steve Jobs, this guy would've never existed too.
I think what would have happened is he would have somehow been at NEX and this company would have been Apple and we all would have NEX computers.
A genius.
I'm happy to live in the times where this guy is around.
True king 🙌🏻 a man with true passion
I'm thinking that Steve Wozniak is a very kind person
mad respect for Woz, most people will never know the impact this guy had in our century
Wozniak - What you get when you combine an engineer, a genius, and an artist all in one. I've never been an apple person. Had a discount iphone for not too long. But this fascinates the heck out of me every time.
Its great to see someone so passionate and enthusiastic about his work, and despite having years in the trade and making it to the top hes not really lost that passion
Steve Wonzniak is a ROCK STAR!!!!!
Truly one of the Wright Bros. of the industry. Unassuming, still with a child-like fascination of how these things work. I hope someone names a school after him one day.
Legend, arguably the father of the home computer.
Not at all.
Without Steve i think Woz wouldn't EVER opened a company...
True.
Got my Apple 2e back in the early 80's. It changed my life and made my graphics business take off.
Thanks, Steve! I still have the computer.
4:52 - Basic beep command is Ctrl-G, more complex tones required PEEK commands at a particular address that I don't remember for sure, but -16336 sticks out in my mind for some reason.
@Cosmonauteable Wasn't a professional programmer, just tinkered around while I was in school. The Apple II was on the decline by the time I finished middle school. The few Apple II's we had in high school were in the keyboarding classroom.
It actually isn't a command. It's an ASCII character (BELL).