The 2024 Hyundai Ioniq 6 Isn't A "Tesla Fighter"... It's Better...
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- Опубликовано: 7 июн 2024
- Some of you might think that making a solid EV sedan in the 21st century is the textbook definition of "great landing, wrong airport," but for anyone interested in high efficiency, low emissions driving, the Ioniq 6 might just be the ultimate EV. With over 300 miles of range, swift 0-60 times and wicked fast charging, the only real issue with the Ioniq is... It's unclear how the NACS transition will impact living with the Hyundai until Tesla rolls out more V4 Supercharger stations...
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Huge props to Hyundai for making a car in a time where every manufacturer is switching to crossovers. Also the fact that it actually has an interesting design is a bonus.
Also that fact that it has solid range and quick charging at and affordable price is great. Midsize ICE/hybrid sedans can cost 40K these days.
Edit: if you lease an Ioniq 7500 tax credit makes it on par with other sedans. Also Hyundai is offer 239/month 0 down lease nationwide till April 1st on base SE RWD model. Great deal
You mean props to Tesla because Hyundai just copied the Model 3 a few years after when they realized how successful it was. Just a shame it has to look so ugly because I'm a fan of the Ioniq5.
And consumers rejected this like they do all sedans. Ioniq 6 global shipments in Jan/Feb is -90% year on year. Ioniq 6 resale is like $10k lower than a similar Ioniq 5. It's clear most consumers globally would rather have hatchbacks and crossovers.
They barely manage to sell 500-1,000 of these every month. At this rate, it will become unprofitable to sell in the US, which means it probably won't make it past 2026. The legroom is fine, but for the class and price range it's in, the cargo space lacks. And it's a Hyundai, which doesn't help.
Props from enthusiasts unfortunately doesn't make more sales and profits.
Picked up a ‘24 SEL AWD last month. What a great daily driver!
Yes, no tax incentive, but Hyundai is lopping $7,500 off the cost to remain competitive because of that. I was going to get a hybrid vehicle, but the cost for the Ioniq 6 got so close, I chose EV, instead. I was going to grab a ‘23, as they had even more incentives, but there was a stop sale due to a recall. Because of that, the dealer gave me even more off on a ‘24. My car’s MSRP was $50K and I got it for $39K.
Lots of car for that amount of money! It has so many great qualities, as Alex covered excellently, of course.
Canada or states?
How was your experience at the dealership?
@@johnetie Suburban Hyundai out of Troy, MI. Unlike what seems common, all went well there. Service appointment for a recall, included.
How do you feel about Bluelink?
@@nizar143It generally meets the need, although I’m coming from a vehicle that had no connected services. Is it the Tesla app? No. But, like some others, I have my reasons for not wanting Tesla.
Love my 2024 Ioniq 6 Limited RWD. With 10k off price, 7500 tax credit, 2k california rebate and 2 yrs of free DC charging. This car is amazing, used to drive 2021 Lexus ES and this one is as confortable, I was aiming for the AWD model but got a best deal on mine. But after I drive it. Don't really needed the AWD this one has plenty of power for anyone needs.
Thats y i love this channel. Others ( reviewers ) throw out incomplete BS lines about the range and Alex explains "Y" way way way better. Thank u!
So I started the video and immediately went to settings to check if my video was playing at 1.5 or 1.75x.
I am astonished that you are speaking that fast and that clearly.
Impressive.
Love this car. Purchased the 2024 SEL RWD Matte Gold for $11,000 off ($7,500 manufacturer rebate, $3,500 dealer discount) at the end of January 2024. Am getting 4.1 mi/kwh in mixed driving thus far
That discount is nuts! Congratulations.
You’ll sing a different song soon.
4.1 is just awesome. I get 3.4 with my Ioniq 5 so that’s 20% more efficient on the same platform.
Hyundai Motor Group is just very very good at this EV game…
@@amatiphone9644why you say that?
@@Prfctdtlz Because he's a Tesla owner.
This car is the epitome of efficiency and I am SO glad it exists
Why? This car is no more efficient than any other efficient EV. What are you actually talking about.
I'm glad Hyundai isn't going bonkers with the sunroof. Why EV makers insist on these huge glass canopies that make the vehicles hotter and require more energy to cool is beyond me.
Structural laminate glass has a higher tensile strength than a steel roof. For the energy absorption portion of the ends and sides of the car to work properly the main safety box needs to deform as minimally as possible so the energy can be directed into the deformable segments. You could put a metal rail system on top but that would add 200 pounds more than a glass canopy. Maybe see through aluminum someday, but for now glass works better.
A glassroof makes this car havier and decreases the height inside (30mm).
I also like that it's one of the only ones that opens.
@@Tokamak3.1415 What does it cost to Line-X over this annoying hole in the roof? Is there any way to get the height of the roof back? I expect dealer financing to give up 2 points on the note if I am forced to endure something so annoying, despised and unnecessary.
@@stanwbaker Ultimately it's your choice as a consumer. If you don't like those glass roofs don't buy one. I was just pointing out the reasoning why auto makers are using it - because it's both cheaper and stronger than a conventional steel roof. It also offers more headroom than a steel roof.... until you put a sliding shade underneath it. The reason you have less headroom is the tendency for automakers to make these coupe CUVs that luxury marks like MB and BMW started doing about 6 years ago and now everybody wants to make something that is high off the ground and yet has a low roofline - basically you have to ride like a low rider. I drive a Model X and a Honda Odyssey minivan - I don't care how I appear to others I only care about safety and function.
I really wish this vehicle had a liftback/sportback. The deals on this are crazy, but the Ioniq 5 also has crazy deals and I'll gladly take the range hit for the extra practicality.
Yep. I'm not crazy about the looks of either Ioniq, so I'd probably go with the EV6, which is also way more practical. They dropped the ball by not giving this a hatchback.
@@future62 The Ioniq 5 is actually more practical than the EV6 in terms of cargo space and rear legroom. Not that the EV6 is lacking in those categories - just that the Ioniq 5 is slightly better at that. But IMO the EV6 looks much nicer (I own one).
Bought one last month. Single motor with the large battery pack with 361 mile range. Super happy with the car so far.
I love my Ioniq 6. Purchased 24 limited in Dec. Smooth, fast, quiet ride. Just wished the speakers were better but love my car. EV charger installed at home too. EV life is awesome.
Can you expand on the speakers needing to be better? I'm really interested in one of these but I love listening to music in the car and a great sound system is a must! Not enough bass? Muddy? Tinny?
@@jayhawker2363 sorry about the late reply. Didn’t notice it. Yeah…it’s not punchy at all. So if you want hard hitting bass, not here. Also I have to have the volume almost at 50 when on highway and about 40 around town. Compared to my q50 which was at 20. Both were and are Bose speakers. But….i will say it’s the only negative. So no car is 10/10 you know?
The right direction. Instrument cluster. Controls on the dash. CarPlay. Decent handling. Efficiency. Need smaller and cheaper. Waiting for a replacement for my GTI.
re: "Need smaller and cheaper." "NO SMALL AND CHEAP FOR YOU...!!!" (Mary Barra and Mark Reuss make the Soup as they discontinue both models of Bolt)
Yeah, the enormous wheelbase on these evs is crazy. At least this is a stylish, efficient car instead of another crossover.
Almost got one of these last month but decided on an Ioniq 5 Limited for only $300/mo, deal of the century! Also if you set the AC/DC max charge limits to 80% then the navigation route planner will give better/faster charging stops!
What was your term length? Lease or own?
No you didn’t. Unless you put a ton down. Inventory on the 5’s has been very limited. Also the deal was for rwd models
Honestly Alex, I've watched tons of your videos over the years and you are so thorough that I rarely have a question about the car after watching one. That's what sets you apart from most of the 60 billion other people doing car "reviews" on YT.
Anyway, my personal experience-- I just got an Ioniq 5 (Limited, AWD) in late January. Very happy with it, but I seriously considered the 6-- LOVE the styling and the extra bit of range. Ultimately, I went with the 5 because I wanted a hatch and preferred the 5's more open interior and massive sunroof (but with a shade). Also, there was an extra $2.5K in rebates on the hood on the 5 ($10K total) for being a Chevy Bolt owner, which was not available on the 6. Still, my neighbor around the corner bought a 6, and yeah, I'm a tiny bit jealous (though his is RWD, so not really).
I'm here for the Saab- and Saturn-like window buttons on the center console.
And going back further, Thunderbird, Cougar, and Lincoln Mark, too.
Yeah the 10-100% charging time is seriously understated. For our long road trips, it allows us to take various routes given that CCS is so spread out in some places. Also, thanks so much for pointing out the Kona. I am confused as well as to why they didn't slap that 800v battery in it. My only thought is the supplier for the current battery either gave them a super deal, or they had a ton of them in inventory. But man, the size of the Kona and the Niro are just perfect. I can't wait until those charge up super fast like my EV6. The Ioniq 6 is just too big for me. The EV6 is the biggest car I've ever owned.
What an amazing video! Really! So much info, so much comparisons, so many opinions not being biased.
I bought the Ionic 6 AWD ultimate package one week ago and I could not agree more with everything you said and it gives me joy to hear so many good things about the car I just bought!
Maybe it's just me but it looks like a Porsche from the front but an Infiniti J30 from the back
Direct ripoff J30 for sure.
I may look like Mike Tyson, but I'm not!
You hit the nail on the head! I was trying to figure that out myself but you're exactly right!!
The original Hyundai Prophecy Concept was so BOSS; Production car is rather blahh by comparasion.
Hyundai is also doing those crazy 24-month leases on this and Ioniq 5
Yeah, but knowing Hyundai dealers, you're going to have to fight tooth and nail to get one of those lease deals and even then, you better watch every single line carefully on the sales contract to make sure they didn't slide something in. Hyundai and Kia have convinced people to overpay for their cars.
@@derek17005I’m just now getting rid of my 2018 Kia Niro, and the Kia ownership experience has been one of the worst I’ve ever had. They act like they have genuine contempt for their vehicles’ owners.
@@derek17005that’s because they sell each of these vehicles at a loss. They would rather sell you a ICE vehicle. They give excuses about supply chain restraints which is all lies. Add on top of that that evs require much less maintenance and thats another profit tentacle that gets cut.
It's the first lease deal I've seen in decades I actually considered a good deal. Also, I would lease any CCS car because you will want the NACS one at the end of the lease.
@@frankcoffey Why would you need the NACS version? You get an adapter for free.
That last graph with the stars is not clear. Always enjoy the videos. Thks.
Actually, the EPA requires you test in the default mode, and because of that, the Ioniq 5 and 6 and others cannot be tested in Eco mode as it is not the default. It's also why Tesla killed the option to have any control over regen recently.
Hey Alex, your issue with the bad charging recommendation is due to a bad design choice they made.
The nav determines the max charging on a trip to what you choose as the max charging in the charging menu.
So if you lower the DC charging to 80% or less in the other menu, you get much better recommendations.
But then when you get to a stop which goes a bit longer than you expect and the car stops charging at 80% when you could have had more... That just sucks.
Amazing review Alex & this is my top choice.
Every one should keep in mind all these range estimates are going from 100% to 0% soc. No one is going to do that. Most will go probably no less than 10% to no more than 80%. So using only 70% of the battery's capability.
re: "Most will go probably no less than 10% to no more than 80%."
exactly. Tesla has the new LFP batteries which you can and should charge them to 100% thus offering the max range. I believe they started to roll them out on the RWD model 3's and soon rolling them out on all of their lineup. Hyundai and others should take note.
@@ivalterbaptista2305Tesla isn't the only one with LFP batteries nor are they producing them.
If you're going to take a road trip and need maximum range, just charge to 100% that one time. My EV goes into turtle mode at 5% SOC.
Don't forget charging past 80% usually takes a long time so the 10-80% range is the one to plan on for multi charge stops road trips.
Nice review(s)! Nice car and in the right location/situation you can save a lot of money. Up here in Canada my payments for the car + electricity are LESS than for a 30-35,000 ICE + gas. The AWD is nice in the snow though but my son has an RWD Polestar and it does pretty good in the snow. The AWD will get about 250 REAL highway miles compared to the RWD 290. In the slower, steeper mountainous roads of BC, Canada I can get 300+ miles easily.
22:47 - when i had an AWD Ioniq 6 SEL tester on those same 20's back a few weeks ago i recorded three 0-60 runs (back to back to back with Dragy) of 4.65 secs, 4.64 secs, and 4.63 secs in Normal Mode. i actually forgot to switch into Sport Mode, but my SOC was over 95% so still pretty impressive. my 1/8th mile run area is fortunately less than 4 miles away from a newly upgraded EVGO station which allows me to come right off the pump with a perfect bit of cool down, at which point i brake hold, and "let 'er rip".
That interior looks like a super nice place to spend time in.
excellent review... thorough usefu info, especially comparing tesla, hyundai, epa, etc.
Route 1 Hyundai in South Brunswick has one of these out front and center with big red '$10,000 OFF' emblazoned across its side. Not sure if it's the fact that it's an EV OR it's nouveau Infiniti J30t styling. That said, such a markdown definitely caught my attention.
Imo it looks great.
these are around $10k ff MSRP at so many SoCal dealers. Way too expensive still considering how affordable the revamped Tesla Model 3 is. That car also has more standard features, and a way nicer interior with almost all surfaces now covered in soft to the touch materials...
Looking to get one for a lease. Helpful review. Anyone have any thoughts on this or any thing I should really consider?
What was the dB for the Ioniq 5? I can't seem to find them in your reviews but maybe I'm missing something. This was great! Thank you! And the 2025 Ioniq 5 is supposed to have better sound deadening and a bunch of other upgrades. I just bought the 2024 Limited RWD, so I missed those updates.
Very nice! I guess that the auto open/close trunk is for ride services.
Is it possible to put a hitch for a bike rack on the back? Seems a little too low to the ground.
I have seen them. It looks low but I've seen it work.
Look into the new Ioniq 6 lease 2yr, $239, no down, 12k miles. TIL 4/1
Not true. Nobody is leasing you a car with zero down. You will make a down payment of at least 3500 and you will also pay taxes and license fees.
Yes you have to pay taxes abs registration costs to the state but the payment accounts are correct. Only on the base model@truesonny5761
Not a real deal. It was on the east coast for a very limited time. It was on the 23 editions on very low level trims with bad color options. Deals were gone I’m after about 2 weeks
I picked up an SEL for 360$ (incl CA Tax) with $900 down. 24 month lease. A lot of dealers in San Diego had very aggressive pricing a few days before the end of the month. If I tried this at the beginning of the month I probably wouldn't be able to get such a good deal. The car drives great and very efficient. Bonus is two years of free electrify america charging.
Hi Alex, is heat pump standard on all trims or only AWD like the Ioniq 5? Thank you.
All trims.
Very nice review and comparison is super!
I was set on the Model 3 when my car clonked out (hopefully not anytime soon) due to no other company really offering an actual car with good range and performance. But I’ll def consider this, the Model 3 & whatever other car is available at that time when it’s time to get a new ride. Wish it was a little smaller but beggars can be choosy, I guess.
BTW there is a SNOW mode when you hold the mode button down. It evens out the power between the 2 motors, reduce regen to level 1 and the traction and stability is truly impressive ( I live in Quebec...) You loose about a third of the range in -15 weather. Cheers
8:18 when you talk about efficiency, can you throw a mi/kWh number on the screen, or whatever the industry-standard measurement of efficiency is? Obviously this depends on tons of factors like speed, terrain, weather, and driving style, but an expected real-world number or whatever energy consumption you saw on your standard EV test route is would put the energy efficiency number into perspective. Once we have sufficient charging infrastructure in place for road trips, the number that will matter more is energy efficiency, not range. Just like we measure ICE vehicles not by the size of their gas tank, but by their mpg fuel economy.
Edit: just realized you threw in fuel economy at 26:22. Would have been nice to have this number on screen at the same time as listing the battery range at 8:18.
Obviously I can tell Alex is a good supporter of Hyundai/Kia. Nothing wrong. And I bet Hyundai/Kia will bring out an improved battery and face lift the Ionic 5, EV6 in 2025 which makes them even better.
a coupe with a hatchback version would be nice
Sell a shirt with your face on it that says "No poop, Sherlock" and I'll buy it.
That lease deal they are doing right now is an amazing deal. That's the first lease I've ever considered a good deal and even better that you can give it back at the end of the lease and get the NACS charge port on a new one by then.
Loving all the comparisons at the end. I'm hoping to get an Ioniq 6 N some day, and a comparison of that with the Polestar 2 would be interesting.
A silver 1996 Ford Taurus is the spirit animal to this. 😂
Yes and the rear reminds me of the british 1980's Ford Sierra XR4i.
@@joemcdonough7509oh yes!!!
To Koreans, It looks like 1995 Hyundai Avante(Elantra) I like the retro style.
@@Twenty1worldI’ll give you that one. It is.
its as if they asked five designers to design one fifth of the car each. it’s an identity crisis on wheels!
Thanks
It's really a shame the infrastructure is so poor. Lots of great EV's out there that would be doing better if the infrastructure was solid.
get a Tesla. Supercharger network is the best out there. I believe Ford also signed on to use Tesla supercharger network but im not sure Hyundai did.
@@ivalterbaptista2305 I have test driven a Tesla and the ride quality was too poor for me but agree, no range anxiety excuse in my mind with a Tesla.
@@ivalterbaptista2305 You don't need to get a Tesla. Hyundai signed on to NACS in October 2023 like basically every other manufacturer.
Do you own your house? You could have a charger installed for maximum charging convenience. I get by with a 240V/20A circuit at 3.5kw charging for my day to day use.
@@kng128 It's no issue for me as I have charging and don't do a lot of road trips. But unreliable road trip charging is a big reason why people won't consider non-Tesla ev's and I can't blame them. Imagine if every non Tesla dc charger had the reliability of Tesla? I feel there would be a ton more ev's being sold
I happen to love the styling and the sunroof.
1. Aside from it being ugly (it looks like it has a humpback), its UI is not nearly as advanced as Tesla's. For example, the car recognizes when it is me driving, and it automatically saves my driver's seat to the position that I set it. If a friend borrows the car and changes the settings, when I get back in the car, it will automatically return the driver's side seat to my settings without me touching one button. Another example, my Model 3 automatically connects to my phone if I have been using my phone to listen to music, and it connects wirelessly to that music source automatically when I get in the car. Some of the Hyundai EVs still require a USB cable to connect the phone to the car, which is just inexcusable. A third example. When I walk up to the car with my phone it automatically unlocks and "starts." There is no on/off button. The moment I sit down, the car is ready to go. When I walk away from the car it automatically rolls up all windows and locks without a key fob - I don't have to touch a thing. The headlights automatically dim, It has three versions of cruise control, including Full Self Driving, where the car dives itself and it has automatic parking. It also has "Sentry Mode" and alarm that videos any person trying to damage your car and sounds a loud alarm if they try to break in - it does this automatically without me setting it. It has seven cameras, including side blind spot cameras. It has automatic dimming mirrors - ALL mirrors dim bright headlights from behind. It has radar sensors that tell you how close you are to an obstacle in inches. The seats are durable and comfortable. The ride is firm, but still comfortable. If you pay $99.00 per year, the Model 3 will get a cellular connection to your Model 3 that allows you to browse the internet, watch streaming TV, RUclips and more. The rear seat room and cargo storage room are great.
Really, I have not seen any other car that is even close to Tesla as a whole package. Use of the Tesla supercharging network alone makes it superior to every other EV car out there as far as practicality. I have heard that the BMW and Cadillac EVs offer better ride quality and similar sophistication, but they cost twice as much and reviews state they have bugs. Reliability is also an issue with BMW and Cadillac cars in general - especially BMW.
2. I own a Tesla Model 3 RWD and it has a smaller battery (63.3 KW). It will go from 10% to 80% in about the same charge time on a Tesla supercharger. So you're just flat-out wrong. It will also go from 10% - 100% in less than 40 minutes. It charges at 170 KW, but because it has a smaller battery, it takes less time to charge.
3. If I drive it near the speed limit, it will get somewhere around 250 miles. Normally, I don't drive that slow, so I get around 225 miles of range. My Tesla Model 3 is a 2022. The 2024 Model 3 is more efficient and has more range than my 2022. So, I am guessing that the 2024 Model 3 will get very similar range to this car.
4. My lowly RWD base Model 3 will accelerate from 0 - 60 mph in 5.3 seconds to 5.8 seconds, depending on which review you read. Regardless, it is faster than just about anything on the road.
5. Right now, the Ionic 6 is priced higher than the Tesla Model 3 Performance version, and the Performance Model 3 will absolutely destroy this car as far as speed and handling.
6. There is no federal rebate for $7,500 for Hyundai EVs. Most Teslas do qualify for the rebate (some don't).
7. Tesla LFP (:lithium iron phosphate) batteries are getting a reputation as the best EV battery available right now. They are capable of lasting over 5-years and maintaining over 90% of their capacity. You also can charge them to 100% without hurting their longevity. There are several RUclips videos of RWD Model 3 cars with 200,000 - 300,000 miles that still have 90% of their original battery capacity. So it would appear that the Model 3, after going through a rash of build quality issues over the last few years, is becoming one of the most reliable EVs being sold right now.
These are just a few of the reasons why Teslas are better than almost any EV on the market. They also are more cost competitive than most EVs. My neighbor just bought a 2024 Model Y RWD for $ 41,800 out the door. That includes all tax license, registration, dealer fees, etc.
The Ionic 6 is a good car. It has been highly ranked in reviews; often it has been ranked as #1. That being said, I just don't see how it is superior to the Model 3 and Model Y cars. The 2024 Model 3 has been upgraded for 2024 with better suspension and it is more quiet on the road. So it now competes with the Ionic 6 in those important categories.
The fit and finish of the Model 3 and Model Y cars is not as good as BMW and Cadillac, but then, they cost about half as much. And every year Tesla is improving the quality of its new cars.
Add to this that Tesla regularly updates the older Tesla cars with the newest features via software updates and you have an unbeatable package that no other car manufacturer can match. That is why the Tesla Model Y is the best selling car in the world right now.
As always Alex, you lead the field in trust metrics
I was really looking hard at a Kia EV6 but the looks on this are starting to really intrigue me the more I view it.
The headlights on the EV6 just look off to me, and it needs a refresh to get better aligned with Kia’s latest design language. Not that the Ioniq 6 adheres to Hyundai’s, though.
Make sure you test drive the model y and 3.
18:10 -- I believe it always charges to your set max charge level. So if you changed your charge limit to 80%, it would recommend charging to 80%. At least that's what the Ioniq 5 does (or did in some software version -- I rarely use the built-in nav, so I'm not sure if anything has changed). It's not a great algorithm either way.
This car is pretty cool. It looks like a 90s Saab and Infinite J30 got married and this is their kid.
Might have to get one
13:41 That hood doesn't look much different from the previous model where they had water leak into the cabin air filter.
On the positive side, that is a truly unique exterior design to my eye. But, maybe also in the top 25 ugliest cars ever. I don’t know if I could grow accustomed to it.
re: "maybe also in the top 25 ugliest cars ever." LOL ikr...? the IO6 occupies a weird space where it somehow has a "foot" in both the BEAUTIFUL camp...? and the UGLY camp...? 😀 i've decided to allow it since technically being an EV, it's historically SUPPOSED to be "strange" and "oddball" (which it is)...
exterior looks aside, everything else about the car though is borderline brilliant (interior, handling, charging, performance, etc). thus so long as you don't have the misfortune of having to replace the 77 kWh pack outside of warranty, you're good.
I completely disagree and think this is a gorgeous car. But I like art that is challenging. This car actually has lines and curves but isn't another box or even just a wedge.
Better aero = less bug strikes = easier cleaning
And a stupid small trunk. Kia EV9 for the win. 🕺
Better aero means less of a turbulence wall between your paint and the elements. And more stone strikes. And bug strikes.
"PPF FOR LIFE...!!!" (i think that's how the cool kids say it)
@@phillyphil1513 nah - search for the video "Paint Protection Film Sucks | Watch This Before You Buy PPF"
Can you please do a refreshed Tesla Model 3 LR review?
pretty darn good looking. I'd really consider this. wish it was a lift-back but that wouldn't be a deal killer.
Instead of the unhelpful range estimates currently shown by the EPA, we need warm and cold highway range numbers at 55+ mph. That would be infinitely more helpful than what we have right now.
In Denmark Europe you can get the 53 kWh. 151 HP version. It's around 150 kg. (330 lbs) lighter and has a winter range around 370 km (229 miles)
Denmark is a "Lille Land", small country, so 370 km will do. We need 500 km at minimum.
Really wish they had a shorter version of this car, with less rear legroom, and a lift back. Basically a sportier version with more cargo practicality.
Ioniq 5
That's what I'm talking about. Shorter wheelbase! What's this other person talking about an ioniq 5? That's the wrong direction from sporty. Too tall.
Very insightful explanation about the range rating. Thank you, Alex 🤍
18:05 if you set the preferred DC charging maximum to 80%, the navigation will make a lot more sense, as it will plan the charging inside the fast charging window of 10-80%.
Disappointing that the higher trims have less range.
The brake rotors are the same size, so you can fit the standard wheels and tires and get most of the longer range back if you like. You can probably sell the premium wheels and tires and come out ahead or even on price too.
Yeah, but still plenty, and a solid performance bump on the dual motor. The 20’s do set the car off quite nicely, too.
Found a brand new 2023 SEL on the dealer showroom. I got it for almost 15K off list. Came with 2 years free Electrify America charging.
Free EA is still too expensive
FWD in an EV doesn't really offer an advantage over RWD EVs due to the weight distribution. My RWD EV does better in the snow than just about any FWD gas car.
When you decelerate the front wheels will still load more than the rear - significantly so. If the car is relying on a single motor to capture the kinetics then for energy management the front setup is preferred. For spirited driving the opposite is usually true. Pick your compromise.
I’m surprised it still uses the old infotainment system. I would’ve thought they would give the ioniq the latest and greatest stuff considering that even the Kona has the new design and infotainment system.
Wild Cherry!
Model 3 is not made for a family of four people! It is really smal!
I agree I couldn’t get my walker in the back when I rode in model 3. Model y I could but people should be allowed to like a non Tesla with out Tesla fans drivers commenting about your choice.
Brand new 2023 at tuscaloosa hyundai for 30k, ive seen them for 34k, worth the flight to sign docs and shipping charge.. i bought mine for 34k and love it more than my tesla model y
Thats sel model and efficiency is amazing even with big wheels, i still want the 18” wheels tho lol to make sure im maximizing range
Shame the Ioniq 6 doesn't get the AR HUD though.
Very nice car
What does fast charging matter if you're not taking it on a road trip? You chose the M3 for the long trips
Q: What does fast charging matter if you're not taking it on a road trip? A: it doesn't. most "true adults" (who've already had their licenses for decades) either work for a living, have families and busy lives, so generally don't have a whole lot of free time to spend just "driving all over Creation". also: they've done that already.
If another little old lady totals my car ("t-boned" it) I'd probably test drive the Ioniq 6 first. Thanks Alex! It would be hard to give up the multi-angle dash cam on the M3 though. I've captured some wacky stuff with it. 😛
The numbers here show that it would not be less expensive to own (read: not lease) than an ICE vehicle unless you get a tax credit, which this car would not qualify for.
Can’t people still just lease it (which gets the credit) and then purchase after the lease term expires?
@@ALMX5DPyou can purchase it second day you lease it, and would be $7500 cheaper
Hyundai is giving the $7,500 off as a manufacturer rebate, so essentially you’re getting the tax credit, purchase or lease.
Can someone explain to me why the teslas range is equivalent to the Ioniq 6 even though there’s quite a bit disparity between the 2?
We have an Ioniq 5 and a Tesla model 3LR. The useful range of the Hyundai is very consistent, while the Tesla is nowhere close to what the screen says initially. I would not be shocked if the Ioniq 6 demonstrates better range no matter the motor configuration.
@@toskin6395 thank you, I wonder if the new Tesla is much better
I am a bit bummed that this doesn't have wireless carplay/android auto, but honestly, the wireless is probably a bit rough on most cars anyway. Car looks so unique compared to so many cars out there these days.
I love all I've heard about this car so far, but I do wonder how well this car does for someone who doesn't have an ability to charge at home, and who drives maybe 3 times a week.
Great review and video as always. Test drove one of these a couple of weeks ago. Absolutely loved it. Alex didn’t even touch on the fit and finish of this vehicle compared to a Tesla which is 100 times better than any Tesla product on the market today. Tesla makes a nice car, but they still have a ways to go when it comes to their build quality. What really puts them over the hump in most peoples opinion is their charging network but soon that won’t even be a factor. Hyundai and Kia are killing it.
I predict future generations will look back to the styling of this like we look back to the AMC Pacer. So ugly it became cool after 30 years or so.
best lease deal on the market rn
If you can find one. I've checked in my corner of the country and there are only 2 SEs within 300 miles.
I agree!
Nice
I like the front and rear design a lot, but in profile, it looks stumpy and awkward with the downward arching shape front to back. Looks like a turtle. That aside, it seems like a very nice car and a solid value. Hyundai battery cost is more than the price of the car though, so I suspect that's what's driving down the real-world purchase price for people. Consumer fear. Also, can we acknowledge the superior interior design of the Ioniq 6 over the Tesla Model 3? It's a unique, modern, clean design with real tactile buttons, which are so much better than Tesla's gimmicky huge touchscreen to operate everything.
I drove the Ioniq 6 and it was nice, but for the same price I could get a Model Y long range and native access to the Tesla Supercharger network. Has Hyundai started doing over-the-air updates on this vehicle yet? Fast charging is great, but that only works if you find a Dc Fast Charger that is working and available, which is more of a challenge for non- NACS enabled vehicles.
@@EpicDrew15 Understood, but it still remains something in the future. It’s as nice car, but if you look at the complete ecosystem it still trails Tesla. I think the next generation of these vehicles will be on par with Tesla. I am not, however, a fan of the Tesla over-reliance on screen controls or their terrible sales process, but once you get by that it is a nice vehicle that gets regular, no-fee, over-the-air improvements.
@EpicDrew15 Tesla did themselves no favors on the Model 3 refresh, removing the stalks for the steering column, so now to put the car in gear you have to use the screen or a set of soft touch buttons above the dashboard and buttons on the steering wheel to signal. A self-inflicted wound by Tesla.
@@bigfan007 Basically the only time you will ever need to swipe on the screen to change gears is if you want to parallel park somewhere, otherwise it auto shifts out of park
@@BadL_ "Auto-Shift" sounds terrifying. What could possibly go wrong? LOL. Again, adding unnecessary complexity to the design for no apparent end-user benefit.
I think the issue with the 12V charging system and how badly Hyundai has treated its customers has soured many to their EV efforts. There are posts of people dumping their Ioniq 5 because of Hyundai's poor handling of a defect they should have dealt with. Then there is the kid in Canada who they junked his car for bumping the battery case wanting 20K for a replacement. The cars may be OK but the company needs a redo on customer service
“Less expensive than Camry/Accord”
-- I have to disagree after factoring in residual value.
That sounds like a lease instead of a purchase then. No need to worry about residual value at all.
My understanding from watching @RareClassicCars is that this rear end isn’t very aerodynamic - despite looking so. A higher, shorter rear is actually more aerodynamic.
Check your sources again. It’s got a drag coefficient of 0.21. I think I trust Hyundai more than some classic car channel.
Joe's right Andy the Cd is the Cd, thus one either accepts it...? or they don't...? there's no "in-between" because: SCIENCE. for reference that 0.21 places the IO6 smack dab in the middle between the 0.19 of the Lucid Air, and the 0.22 of the Porsche Taycan (hint: 2 cars which basically cost $100 Grand)...
for consumers who understand it (which admittedly is only a handful) that one stat BY ITSELF is damn impressive before you even get around to evaluating anything else about the car.
infotainment looks archaic compared to tesla
The Hyundai route planning software uses the driver’s selected maximum state of charge setting to determine how high to charge at each stop. If you set it to 80% it will always show going to that percent SOC. Not the best route planning.
right..........
Some trims of the Hyundai Ioniq 6 also use the 5 cycle EPA method just like the Tesla Model 3. Maybe YOU should Google the EPA certification before telling your viewers the wrong information and then telling us to Google it. 😂
Furthermore, the new model 3 long range in Edmonds testing was only 3 mi below the EPA range. While Ioniq 6 RWD limited was 18 miles below the EPA estimate.
Still upset it looks nothing like the concept, still not sold on it after seeing a bunch in person, front and rear halves don't match, looks very front end heavy...
When the price gets to 25K i might consider it. not many people can actually afford 43K. And who wants to pay for a car for 8 to 10 years?
They do have a great lease deal at around $250 per month with little to no down while Elentra goes at around $300/month I think.
Average price of a new car is 49k
let me have all the options on the longest range model and I might be interested. Looks wise, reminds me of a 94 Mazda MX-6 from the front
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Ionic6 has V2L Tesla don’t.