regaurdless of what you think, all things die and nothing lives forever. you shouldnt have to tell people their all just dancing in a bubble floating thru the void. in fact, they are aware. all your seeing is them coping with it, nothing more. existence is truly meaningless, and even without religion we would fight over ideas. it isnt about whos right its about maintaining control...
there has been many people that tell me that me being bi is a sin, and that me being bi and christian doesn't make sense. I just see a lot of hate in my religion, where it's a sin to hate. and I'm disappointed in how my religion is rn.
The Bible condemns same sex marriage in multiple verses, so bisexuality's openness to same sex marriage does go against the Christian faith. I think the biggest issue with Christianity is that the majority of us don't follow Christ. We judge others for sinful behavior when we ourselves are no better, which is why my favorite verse will always be John 8:7.
I think it's actually kinda retorically-semantic problem. For example - what does it actually mean to be bi? Does it mean to engage in erotic activities with people of two genders or does it means having attraction to people of two genders? Catholic Church is very clear that God does not condemn being anything. He only condemns actions. That way same sex activities are sinful whereas same sex attraction is not. But the rhetorical ambiguity is also used by pro LGBT+ activists. For example one could pretend that being ostracized due to engaging in same sex interactions is the same as being ostracized due to being born a certain way, which is false equivalence used to invoke greater pity. It kinda reminds me of how validity was replaced with existence in political rhetorics. For example when one would say that "Republicans believe that I'm not valid" that sounds like something that potentially could be correct whereas "Republicans think that I don't exist" sounds like a funny and laughable thing because of course you exist if you write something on the Internets so Republicans are obviously wrong. Validity is important and useful concept. One is valid when one is what they think that they are. As such validity is complex and contextual since a person might be valid as trans women while at the same time not valid in thinking that she is autistic (In a scenario when we have a trans women who is not autistic yet believes herself to be). Still a question of whether somebody is or is not valid is open, could have more than one answer to. Whereas the fashion to just replace "validity" with "existence" makes a mockery of any nuances.
I’m not Christian anymore but I’d like to say, if they preach hateful harmful things then they are false prophets which unfortunately a lot of preachers.
Although hating is indeed a sin, don't be fooled because same sex relationships are still a sin, in Christianity we are called to love the sinner but hate the sin, if a Christian tells you something, think if Jesus would have told that
Came out agnostic (now atheist) to my parents in middle school. Even that young the horrors and atrocities weren't lost to me and the contradictions made no sense. My parents were furious and attacked me. There's no hate like Christian love.
I'm so sorry that you went through that, and it breaks my heart when people say they had religious trauma. I do not condone people who attack others for their beliefs. I should first introduce myself and say I am a Christian, and as a Christian, the problem wasn't Christianity, it was your parent's fault, who attacked you instead of understanding you. The phrase "there is no hate like Christian love" actually means "there is no hate like the love of a non-Christian" because the bible *does* say you shouldn't hate. Here! 1John 2:9 says, "Anyone who claims to be in the light but hates a brother or sister is still in the darkness." If you would like to talk to me more about it i would love to, because you were hurt by people who weren't true Christians. God bless!
@@ronior001 You're just reducing it back to square one - to a shallow singe use of the words hate and love that can be twisted to describe whatever action. Literally changes nothing about the no hate like christian love issue. All you did is pull a no true scotsman while discrediting the problem.
I should add that the phrase "God is dead" was not meant to be taken literally. Well, a literal interpretation is cool af but not the intended way. Nietzsche said "God is dead" because people were moving away from religion. It signified the end of heavy religion.
Hello! I am a Christian who has been watching and following your content for a while now! I wanted to say that I honestly love seeing this side of Christianity people don't often talk about for over here in the west. Reading some of these comments after watching the video to its fullest has me broken hearted. So to those who have somehow been hurt or persecuted by those who call themselves Christians, I am so sorry. That is NOT how Christians are supposed to do things. While I may respectfully disagree the perspective that what has been done in movies have not been done, I would kindly say that I have personally experienced being taunted for my beliefs. Heck, I recently had a traumatic moment with me because a "friend" of mine didn't want to associate with me because of it.... I admit its a hard road. But I don't force my beliefs on anyone. If someone wants to hear or learn about it, I am more than happy to do it as long as that person isn't forcing me into a corner trying to say something that I can get deeply triggered by due to my past. This video was super informative and I like how history was said first before diving into where Christianity stands today. Again, while some statements I disgree with peacefully, at the end of the day thoroughly enjoyed! it! Please don't stop making these videos! I can't wait to see more! P.S. If any of you have any questions, I will be happy to answer :3
I appreciate this comment, and I wanna be super clear I don't mean this with any malice! I'm extremly sorry if it comes off that way, it's not my intent- while you're 100% justified in feeling hurt, uncomfortable, attacked etc if someone is taunting you for your beliefs, I think that's a very different issue than what I'm getting at in the video. while I both think it's rude to mock people in general, and just frankly counterproductive to mock individual instead of providing compelling arguments and information, it is not the same thing as being persecuted, oppressed, marginalised, what have you. i also wanna side note: while i don't know, nor is it my business, what your issue with your friend was- Christianity has been a motivater for physical, political, and social harm against pretty much every marginalised group on the planet. if your friend is lgbt, of another faith/ irreligious, indigenous, disabled, or really any minority I think it was likley less about you and more about a history of fear based on genuine persecution. I don't say that to invalidate your feelings on it at all, and maybe I'm totally off and they're genuinely just a dick- but I know I've personally cut off Christians in my life for those reasons as have many other people. the groups Christianity has historically stepped on, and then proceed to victim blame, are not just being made fun or or getting rude comments. i cant realistically list every instance of Christianity being a motivational factor, if not sole motivator, for oppression and violence but a short(ish) list is as follows - North American residential schools, in which indigenous children were stripped from their families, banned from speaking their native language, forced to convert from their cultural religion to Christianity, and had significant cultural clothing and practices banned (such as forced hair cutting). many children died in these schools and their express purpose was to "kill the indian, save the man", or rather, assimilate or be killed. - anti-abortion sentiments in the west are heavily rooted in Christianity as stated in the video. this is now becoming a legitament threat, as the US is proposing a federal abortion ban, and women in NC can receive the death penalty for abortion INCLUDING accidental miscarriage. this risks the lives of millions of women who cannot survive a pregnancy, and of millions of children who will be either sent through our very poor Foster care system and/or in homes that do not want them. - trans people both in the United States and abroad are on the receiving end of a rapidly rising number of hate crimes, and are having our rights stripped away. trans Americans are no longer allowed to get a passport, and when attempting to apply many have had their documents confiscated and have no federal form of ID. this also becomes a pressing issue as lack of ID could now land you in one of the camps being set up. in my home state, supportive parents of trans youth can be investigated and charged with child abuse. American anti-trans rhetoric is inseparable from Conservative Christianity and some of its loudest voices are self proclaimed christian nationalists. Christianity is not only the majority religion, but it is inseparable from the american governing regardless of what words are thrown around to say its not. many state capitals have 10 commandments statues at them, again including my home state, states like oklaholma are required to display the 10 commandments in classrooms, things like the "gay panic defence" are valid in court, people are routinely told in lawsuits they're allowed to discriminate against LGBT customers and employees on religious grounds, all of which having been of Christianity. we have god in our pledge and on our money. Bush Sr stated he didnt belive atheists should be allowed to be citizens, and 7 states still have laws baring us from holding office. white christians specifically are overwhelmingly the least oppressed group in the west. again I don't say any of this to undermine that being a dick about someone's religion when they're simply existing js wrong and hurtful, but that is extremly small stakes. me and my fiance are scrambling to get him a passport incase we need to flee the country, and are planning incase his documents are taken. we're getting married this month despite our wedding being at the end of 2026 since gay marriage is returning to SCOTUS, whove stated they want to overturn it. we're unsure if we'll be able to recive healthcare since we use medicaid. my partner was sent to conversion therapy as a teen and has extensive trauma from it, and I experienced physical violence living in the South as a trans person. his university in florida refuses to update his degree with his legal name, so he functionally has no degree now. I get hateful comments every day on this channel, and sometimes they're hurtful but 99% of the time I've learned to brush them off. I can't brush off being trapped in a country that's said i should be put infront of a firing squad
@@godlesssnowshoe Just realize most ideologies can push bad things on minoritized and marginalized individuals and groups. Christianity is just the piñata of the day.
can VS have/do. any idea or belief is capable of being distorted and corrupted, and subsequently used to harm others. but not all of them have, and not all of them are. its extremely important to correct and educate those in your own communities and be receptive and open when reviving that critisim in return. echochambers do not help anyone and they create more and mkre extreme beliefs. there are plenty of issues I take with my own side of the isle both in regards to atheists and as a leftist, and much of my content around transness as well as an older video of mine about Islam's relationship to the left exist to adress the issues I see in my own communities. that being said, the groups i listed (native folks, women just as a whole, and lgbt americans) have never historically been responsible for these types of actions, nor display any signs they will in the foreseeable future. idk I understand the sentiment and I dont exactly disagree but this is just whataboutism regarding things that havent even happened, just theoretically could Christianity is the stick. ethnic religions, queer folks, immigrants, and impoverishment people are the pinata of the day. and Christianitys been the stick for a good thousand + years. they just cycle through piñatas till they're they're killed, converted, or silenced.
@@godlesssnowshoe Thank you, those are all excellent points for how so many groups have persecution complex. The point isn’t that only Christians or non-Christians have persecution complex, but that it’s been politicized to death to a point where “persecution complex” is meaningless and basically virtue signaling.
@@godlesssnowshoe First off, I never saw any malice behind your video. Far from it! I just wanted to give my perspective as someone who is a Christian. As far as my traumatic event... My friend did identify as LGBT, and I knew this but never judged them because that's not for me to do. Nor is it wise. I love having diverse friends and absolutely LOVE whole heartedly seeing different perspectives. It just hurt me that my friend, finding out that I was Christian called me every slander in the book when I admitted I was a Christan (Although it was weird cause I always wear a cross necklace) I felt deeply hurt that my friend associated me with the toxic history of Christanity when I literally have never treated them less than a brother/sister from another mother. Its still kinda touchy for me to think on and talk about since it was honestly very recent. I appreciate your comments though for further clarification and facts. I admit I am a bit sensitive to certain topics about my past but again. I am happy to answer questions when I can. Also WHAT!? They didn't update his degree?! How dare they. That's just down right stupid that they wouldn't do that. I am sorry that happened :( Thanks for taking the time to read my comment and write your reply! It honestly made my day
I don’t believe in Christianity but I still think it’s profoundly sad that a religion, something that’s supposed to be a beacon of inspiration and kindness, has so often been twisted and abused to be shaped the way malicious people want it to be.
I believe that's it's quite likely that Trump never even read project 2025. He just has a lot of advisors who he puts a lot of faith and trust in who read it and wholeheartedly support it, some even might have had a hand it writing project 2025.
to be Frank I don't think he cares enough to read the whole thing, but it's evident he's 100% feigning total ignorance of its contents. weather an advisor is summarizing it to him or he's just payed to do what's in it or that he skimmed it or just discussed it with Herritage foundation, i don't know. but he's implementing it to scary accuracy and his ties to it are extensive and direct. weather he actually knows its exact phrasing or not, he is using it as a guide book. also yes he has worked with multiple people directly who are both authors and editors, over half its authors have professional ties to trump. often extremely direct such as his transition advisor, appointees to his "patriotic education" Committee, his economic advisor, etc. the NY Times link has a full list of people with confimed connections and who those people are in relation to him, its in the desc!
@ "to be Frank I don't think he cares enough to read the whole thing" Understandable. It is about 1000 pages long after all and it seems like he never even read the Bible (his favorite book).
@@godlesssnowshoe Pretty much. With this many executive orders he's got to just be signing every sheet of paper his buddies hand him without a second though...
OH LORD GREG LOCKE- that man is so unhinged i genuinely think he needs some kind of serious help. also its wild he says that at all lol, the majority of Americans are Christians. by proxy the majority of Democrats are Christians?? like is almost half the country wrong bc u said so Greg lol
Democrats typically have a moral standing that goes against the Bible, so its like playing Devils Advocate when you claim to be Christian and Also be ok with people who think abortion is 100% morally ok in all scenarios
10:14 GS, the conservatives are right. By us existing others WILL come out as trans and non conforming more often. AND THAT SHOULD BE OKAY! Their panic about that is literally them just being full mask off with their hatred.
I mean think saying theyre right is maybe a little misguided bc they're saying we TURN people trans/gay- that being around us takes cis straight people and makes them think they should actively choose to be trans or manipulate them to do so- that being said I do agree w ur statement, I came out pretty much immediate when I learned being trans was "a thing"- I already knew I was but especially as a kid sent through a lot of psychiatric treatment at a young age I just thought it was 1 more thing wrong with me, not that being trans was an actual thing 😭
@@godlesssnowshoe I also got sent through loads of psych treatment as a kid. Glad to know I'm not the only one who got pathologized into oblivion for not being like everyone else. Subbed ♥
I'm sorry to hear that 🩵 while I'm grateful for the help I received (I definitely needed some of it) being put on anti-psychotics as an elementary schooler was. not the best experience 😭 hope ur doing alright man 🩵🩵🩵
@@godlesssnowshoe Same with me. I had feelings for so long as a kid but suppressed them. Once a friend told me about it I thought, and thought. And finally accepted that was what I had felt all these years. It was so hard but finally happier with who I am. It wasn't them telling me I was trans that made me, it was me finally having something to answer as to why I felt this way for so long.
One thing that I remember thanks to Protomario was that, doesn't the phrase "Christ is King" like a oxymoron in a way? Like it misses the point of Jesus or Christianity in the first place?
According to Christianity Jesus is indeed king. King of the kingdom of heaven, not of the earthly kingdom. King of the higher world but not of this world. Also he basically literally confessed to being king when he was interrogated before crucifixion.
Hello! This isn’t related to the video, but I wanted to let you know that I just discovered your channel and am really enjoying each video so far! I love your work!
How the heck is there no likes on this video yet? Am i seriously the first like on a 3 hour old video with over 200 views or is youtube bugging out? Anyway, honestly yeah this video does just hit the spot, every example of christians overreacting to merely stating that you're not religious is spot on, it's always either you're being "disrespectful", or you're crazy and "you don't belive in anything at all then", it's like merely disagreeing with them means they think you automatically want them dead... On a more wholesome note i do absolutely adore your art style! I wish i had the mental fortitude to sit down and practice my own drawing skills to that level, instead of just watching youtube all day and fantasising about drawing better. But yeah i love the way you draw fluff on the characters, my furries always end up looking like their torso and limbs are just poodling with body paint lol
thank you sm i appreciate that!!it's definitely very frustrating. also its definitely just youtube lol, on my studio veiw and my phone it has over 100 likes xD
As someone who recently has deconverted from Christianity and went back to Deism (belief in a creator, but the creator has no divine intervention within our plane of existence), my view point is that there is an unfortunate truth in which christians are inclined to feel or be persecuted even if it is the smallest inconvenience because the Bible tells them that they are not real christians if they are not being hated by the world or being persecuted for your beliefs. A lot of them need to be offended by certain things and play it off as persecution because thats what the scripture wants them to do (not all of them, obviously) I don't blame christians for this however, they are practically told that they are needed to do this or else they'll be denied the kingdom of God. I do find a lot of christian doctrine to be positive, but also negative as well. I am a huge advocate of defending the belief and I find major favor in the topic of scripture in doing so. The thing is that I don't want to go back into the faith again. I just think there are too many contradictions and outdated ideas that don't fit our modern day ideals. I just feel like we as humans are meant to be changing, improving and updating things is what makes us thrive and specialize as beings.
Personally, if you are christian, more power to you. it's just that I don't feel like coming back to it to be honest. I love so many things about christian history and how it has shaped society throughout time.
Personal opinion, if someone's faith is so fragile about the existence of their god, capital G or otherwise, that they need to silence anyone who questions it's existence then clearly they don't believe their god is superior to naysayers. I say have open, constructive conversation. Sure, you may not know everything about your god, and a question you can't answer for yourself or you aren't comfortable with the answer is good reason for looking into your official doctrine on the matter, thinking critically about it, and figuring out what it means for you. I think we will get closer to "godliness", regardless of if you believe in him or not, by having these conversations with open minds and by thinking critically about it. Religion should build us up, make us better people for it, love your neighbor and all that. Putting down or discluding others because of it isn't love, it's hate and bigotry.
It sucks that i feel like an unwelcome person for being christian cause of just my own thoughts and guilt by association. having so many hateful people that also call themselves christian is genuinely embarrassing. I just wanna love God and be kind, man.
It actually goes back to the beginning. The amount of persecution claimed by Christian sources in the Roman Empire is not reflected in non Christian sources. Which you would think thier oppressors would have something to say about it.
this is absoutly true- my main focus here is more so the rise of this specific brand of persecution complex haha. unfortunately even when christians have been blatantly violent, many times throughout history, they always tend to victim blame.
I believe in that there is a god, but I can't stand organized religion and the desire to be persecuted that so many groups have. Jesus was an awesome dude, but most people who say they believe in him and praize him go against everything he stood for. Pastafarians are rad though. Rock on pirate lads, may your beer always be cold.
I like how I got recommended by you again after 3 years I remember you when I was 16 remembered I oringally watched your content because a content creator was responding to you but I can't remember I really love your art
It is weird really. Churches are supposed to be safe. Kids get messed with, it is brushed under the rug. A person swings a different way or identifies a certain way, they get threatened. Religion is just so horribly twisted, it has been ruined.
100% agree with all of this. I'm Christian, but holy CRAP people in my religion have SEVERE victim complexes and discriminatory behaviors it's insane. They feel the need to be the victim all the time and it's ridiculous. Like, no Karen, we're not oppressed here in the US of A. You're just getting called out for your childish behavior. Due to discrimination, especially with disabilities, my mom doesn't feel comfortable at any of the churches nearby due to rumors my father spread, and my mom's disabilities causing her to be excluded pretty severely. And the fact that its currently being used to opress minorities is sad as hell. Religion and government should NEVER be mixed; it ALWAYS ends up corrupt, regardless of how its used. After the Bishop spoke at the inauguration, there are now Christians saying not to fall for the "sin of empathy", whatever the hell that means. Western white conservative Christianity is corrupt as hell and needs to be protested against.
Christianity in itself is a contradiction. The bible states that in the end there will be one religion and that has been the goal of christianity for centuries. Even in history there were massacres of entire villages of invaded land just because they refused to believe in their god. The son of god (an omnipotent being mind you who needed sin committed upon his son in order to forgive said sin) was prosecuted as an infidel and murdered.
As a young protestant christian, when Gods Not Dead came out my parents made my family watch it, and it was mostly because of the popular song from the Newsboys at the time lol. I remember the plot of that movie being a believer being challenged to prove god doesn't exist, and that it ends when he gets the professor to admit that he hates God, and "you can't hate something that doesn't exist" but I remember being confused since he never actually managed to prove his own point.
yeah the movies very... odd regardless of if someone's Christian or not 😭 especially bc Kevin Sorbos character dies at the end?? its just a very weird series lol
@@godlesssnowshoe lmao yeah they gave him that weird redemption thing at the end. I literally remember being upset that they didn't answer the real question they asked and I got nervous because they just skirted around it. weird movie and never watched the sequels either lol
I’ve been through a lot of churches some more mad at the existence of gay or trans people and some not even caring there’s only one church that I went to briefly that didn’t say me being a trans pan person was a sin and that I need to be cleansed for it. Most churches will tell young impressionable kids and growing teens that it’s wrong and that it’s gross. Well that’s my experience and internalizing that is something that did happen. I’ve hurt alot of people while trying to deal with the internalization of I’m going to burn. Us vs them mentality is scary
Religions with long texts and arbitrary rules ultimately end up just being a lens of what the person believes, but twisted into being forcefully respected at best, and end all be all of morality at worst. Then when that inevitably leads to polar opposite contradictions under the same religion, we get 45000 denominations.
(Got the 1000th like on this video haha) -- I've been openly nonreligious for over 20 years now, and it only ever comes up when a Christian invokes the Persecution Complex. It's really annoying!
big video for the x0.75 crowd edit: ok, i did judge the video too soon, this is some amazing comentary accompanied some solid art, but i still do believe this video could use some slower speech. sub gained no matter what!
lol ty xD yeah I know I tend to talk fast haha- that's just how I talk so when I try and slow down it ends up being fast by the end anyway 😭 + I personally prefer fast talking in videos lol. that being said I agree I should definitely slow down a bit lmao, it's just hard to maintain for a whole video xD
You actually mentioned Francis Schaeffer! I read some of his works a long time ago, on someone's recommendation. They seemed to think he was deep. Since then, I've wanted to discuss his rather strange view on things, but have never found anyone familiar with him. Do you have a take or impression on him?
honestly I think he was an opportunist more than anything, especially considering it seems he mainly stayed out of politics until the events discussed in this video and the larger conversation around abortion becoming a protestant one- I havent read anything from him since my last video that mentioned him (specifically about protestant opposition to abortion) other than skimming to make sure i was representing him accurately, so I'd probably have to go back and do that to give a particularly nuanced take beyond that? ultimately though I think he was just one of many evangelicals who while they may be genuine Christians, are also opportunists in the realm of political and ideological debate. People from Ken ham to Billy Graham to Kat Kerr 🤷♂️ I also wish more people would discuss him when talking about the Moral Majoirty and rise of evangelicalism. there's a lot of content creators I deeply respect whove discussed this topic at length and never once mentioned him, but i feel like he was pivotal in gaining more wide spread support.
This is such a difficult topic. I'm an Orthodox Christian and I have many LGBTQ+ friends that I adore and we get along very well, despite them knowing I have much more conservative beliefs. Despite this, there's some things that my people have done that break my heart. We killed Hypatia, and our Catholic brothers and sisters showed no mercy to Beatrice Cenci. I know that my people have done wrong and I am so sorry. But even then, it's not about man's failure- it's God's character that matters. My problem is that the reason why Christianity is so hated and warped here in the west is because our country was founded on Protestant roots and hence why Orthodoxy is much more loving and makes Christianity feel like an ACTUAL religion. Nothing against you by the way, I don't doubt you are very sweet. God bless you.
The correlation between theism and capitalism doesn't really exist. It's completely concocted. Marxism is secular, but you can be a theist and be a Marxist. In the USSR Eastern Orthodox Christianity was given a wink and a nod for years. Oh, they certainly oppressed other religions and other denominations of Christianity, but Eastern Orthodoxy was given a pass. Further, in 1943 they reopened thousands of churches that had been closed prior. That's more than 40 years before the fall of the Berlin wall. This idea that they were `godless commie's` has always been nonsense propaganda. There is a big difference between not allowing organized religion to have any real power, and being an atheist society. Those two things aren't even close.
That's Mean Secularism Is Good Then Religious But We Don't Follow Turkey But We Indonesian Must Follow Like China, in Indonesia They are selling Religious Beliefs like Ruqyah Salt, Habib and Islamic Concert are Sure That Are Fanatic Even though Islam in the Golden Age had a lot of knowledge, there were no fanatics.
I agree with this and am aware lol I'm a Marxist myself- but americans in the 50-60 were subjected to propaganda and American protestantism was used as a catalyst for it
@ Oh absolutely. I was born in 1965, and I actually met a guy while in Germany, who was born 2 weeks before I was in a town about 150 km from Moscow. We compared propaganda, and that was one of the biggest surprises to me at the time. We're talking 1986 when I knew him. In the end, I was fed more propaganda than he was. Though, it was he himself that suggested the reason for that is because there was only one voice in the USSR at that time, whereas there were many voices in the west, so propaganda was a more `complicated` affair.
Im sorry if we have these type of people who literally go against the commandment of love.i hope we can be a loving christian that helps people through hate. But we're the villian,may God forgive us.
we can hope 🥲 organizing is the best thing we can do right now- if you have a local PSL chapter I'd recommended joining them for organising meetings, or otherwise participating in mutual aid, protest, and community support and building- me and my partner go to the denver PSL meetings and have been helping with putting up posters to help people protect themselves from ICE and are planning to support some of the small businesses run by other members who are at the biggest risk rn ♡
That's very hopeful In my opinion though the time for protest is over and the time for survival is now You have the right idea with getting a passport and getting the fuck out I would suggest the Netherlands or perhaps an overseas colony of France @@godlesssnowshoe
I still hold the belief that Jesus would hate the modern Christians for NOT following his teachings. So what if I'm trans and bi? I don't believe God hates me for that. Christians need to accept others as different. Religion does not need to exist as a hate filled system.
Got recommended this video I think RUclips knows I like Trans Male Content Creators too much >.> not a furry but apparently as a catgirl it’s self reporting me now v.v That said…. This was a good video. I also had to slow the speed down to .8 bc I couldn’t comprehend what you were saying ADHD and ASD said otherwise.
Hi dear reader, if you came across this comment, i want to say i am very sorry for people persecuted you. I am very sorry, god is forgiving and a loving god, people are on the other hand are unpredictable. Please don't hate your persecuters, respect them but yet avoid them. Aleays remember that you can come back to god. God bless you all and may blessings come to you.
1 Timothy 1:8-11 "We know that the law is good if one uses it properly. We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine that conforms to the gospel concerning the glory of the blessed God, which he entrusted to me."
using the bible to prove the bible is circular reasoning, sorry lmao. I don't think this shit is real that is quite possibly the least compelling way to argue anything to a non-Christian.
@@godlesssnowshoe It's all just about faith. Christianity isnt supposed to be a religion but a relationship with Christ. It's not about works either, so someone who murdered in his life, but repented and moved away from that sin, then they are saved. In the bible there were two others next to jesus on the cross, One who denied him and didnt want him, but the other asked him "Remember me when you enter your kingdom" Jesus turned to him and said "You will be with me in paradise" I didnt watch the video yet because I am in a meeting on discord atm, but once I'm done I will come back to edit this comment and try and explain further! ^^ I hope you have an amazing night my friend! ^^
@@darlalathan6143 There is prove here on earth that proves the existence of god, Science and math proves the existence of a creator. You also gotta think about it too, Nothing can come from nothing. If the universe came from a big bang, From some particles what created those particles?
you mean 24 in the last 4 years? which were on reservations? and investigators believe was done in response to the burials found at residential schools, ie where indigenous people were forced to convert to christianity through extreme violent and genocidal measures? yeah violence isnt the answer i dont support that, but 24 churches being burned in 4 years in response to physical and cultural genocide of millions, perpetrated to force christianity, isnt really the own you think it is. retaliation of oppressed groups againt the systems that oppress them does not make the christians persecuted. it is a tiny dose of what indigenous communities have experienced.
@@godlesssnowshoe The burials found were fake and never proven. "No human remains found 2 years after claims of ‘mass graves’ in Canada" New York Post Do Christians deserve to have their places of worship destroyed?
@therealdeal3837okay so youre indoctrinated and not worthy of further response, got it. im indigenous myself im not remotely interested in conservative christians arguing my family and community history isn't real, thanks. have the day you deserve dude
God tells you in the Bible that adulterers nor homosexuals will inherit the Kingdom of God. Nor will thieves etc. To praise God in your life and your relationships, you must not aim to please your flesh, but to please the lord. Many Christians have to deny their flesh to come to the lord, definitely not just homosexuals. If you're a homosexual, thief, adulterer, sinner, the good news is that you can come to the lord. If you truly believed that the creator of the universe said to you that you must not fornicate with humans of your gender, you would not listen to Him? If the God, creator of the universe tells you to never get married, would you listen to him? (not saying that He said this) When you love someone and want to have sex with them, is that love? Is that you wanting to protect them? Love and sex are different. You can love people from afar, and you can have love for someone, but it does not mean you should have sex with them.
@ Lord I pray for this person, that they feel your love and your desire to have a connection with them. Lord I pray that you strengthen my faith and help me grow closer to you lord. I thank you for your daily blessings, I pray you deliver us from the evil one. Thank you oh mighty Lord for your forgiveness and grace. In Jesus name is pray Amen
@ It may seem weird but I'm only saying this because I care about you I could just say oh what a shame and completely forget about you easy as that but I'm trying to talk to you and pray for you because thats what God taught me. And you know what, you might continue to blaspheme my God and mock my religion, but the Lord cannot be mocked. If you think it is foolish for a man to dedicate his life to the teachings of Jesus Christ, why do you dedicate yours to mocking Christianity? A connection with God is a blessing. Thats why I pray for you.
@@Talon19 Saying "happy holidays" instead of "merry Christmas" isn't persecution, it's just someone trying to be neutral. Point out one case of persecution against Christans in the west.
@ Hate, insults, slander, denigration, intolerance, vandalism, arson, mockery. Churches being closed despite other businesses, private and public, being open during the pandemic; politicians prevented or claiming to be unfit because of their faith (ANY FAITH), religious iconography being taken down despite being on private property. This isn’t difficult to find. Hell, **I** experienced Christian persecution and I’m not even affiliated with any Christian church. What you need to do is think outside the binary and realize persecution, discrimination, etc isn’t just a “not happening at all” and being a nationwide phenomenon.
I remember my Mom getting me and my brothers together to watch God's Not Dead when I was a young teen. We all ate it up, including my Mom. But looking back, it really was pretty obnoxious. I think there is a legitimate fear of discrimination for being a Christian, but NEVER in the United States. We were founded as a nation under God by Europeans of almost exclusively some form of Christian faith. As someone who got hardcore into conservative politics from 2017-2020 (I watched tons of Steven Crowder, Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh, etc), I think I can speak for conservatives when I say we have some legitimate fears for the country, but removing freedom of religion is NOT one of them. The people who fear-monger about that are 100% in an absurd echo chamber. I think schools, and frankly the government as a whole, needs to remove the Pride movement from its facilities. But God should be removed too. No indoctrination anywhere of any kind, just let people decide who they are as an individual without these pathetic attempts at influencing minds. I hope one day this country can stop trying to make as many categories to divide ourselves into as possible, because it is not what's different that makes us empowered, but what we share as Americans. Rights, freedoms, opportunities. We spend so much time fighting each other that we don't make room for compromise, reason, understanding. And unfortunately, it seems we never will.
love your comment, its awesome to see someone wanting the idea of getting along with someone you dont agree with,freedom for all, not just me, but sadly i think your breath is wasted in this comment section, the vid creator is hostile and openly marxist.
while I don't agree with the sentiement about pride due to its historical relevance and purpose, (and the fact that that's not really what indoctrination is) I can generally agree everywhere else for the most part🤷♂️ also yeah the gods not dead movies suck lol. like even 100% devoid of any moral issue I take with them I just. they are written so badly its insane 😭 I can enjoy good Christian media if its just genuinely good art, but LORD pureflix get a grip lol
@Talon19 they said they were in a comment in another video, idk which, id have to look. also, if education is a form of indoctrination hows something like mathematics fall in that category?
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Hey listen, i understand the ingrained hostility you have for religion but Christian communities and what you are can live in communion. The LGBTQ community sees itself as people deserving dignity and that concept of human rights in democracies come from the history of religious beliefs, before identity groups where under the microscope and ethnic groups where characterised. It was through religion that all government and social communication happened
putting aside the fact that civil rights are not actually my main reason for being opposed to religion, they're just the specific subject of this video- this is absoutly false. religion, especially western Christianity, is historically responsible for justifying atrocities way more frequently than it is anything else. even pre-cold war. especially as an American Indian I'm rather disgusted with people holding this belief, especially when specifically claiming its HELPED ethnic groups. your dilusion has done nothing for my ancestors and my family. it has only been justified to go from killing us, starving us, displacing us- and then once that's said and done, forced upon us throughout abject violence and cultural genocide. my dead grandma is the only one in our family who's speaks our language, and that is the direct fault of your religion undeniably trying to erase us and physically cram us into the box. your religion did NOTHING for us. it makes me extreamly sad to see how many in my community and other native communities are still Christian. to see how many people don't know their language or culture. the "reconnection" is even a nessasaity for anyone. "identity groups" have always been under a microscope weather that's American tribes, the black community, gay men, trans people, Jews, muslims, atheists, communists. tell me that anyone of those communities persecution didn't have heavy ties to Christianity, and you'd be lying. in all those cases being "other" was a threat to the religion. all of them. and the solution has varied from killing those in these groups to attempted to force us/them by any means nessasry to be cramed, squished, and hammered into the little box Christianity made for us. Christianity only benefits Christianity. and the marginalised groups you mention weren't helped by it, we were told assimilate or die.
@godlesssnowshoe first off I don't seek the distraction of anyone's culture and I value the beauty of different people's worlds on our planet however ''if I am not for myself who will be for me'' I expect you to be the same but no. You are under the delusion that socialism or some kind of communism can work in some fairy future, compared to that god makes perfect sense. Second I think you're a little too nostalgic about the relationship native American tribes and the Christian colonists had. Before AND after the white man came they hunted and killed each other not as noble conflict or whatever people tell themselves, it was wars every season violent and bloody
I suggest you read the book (Nine years among the Indians) by herman Lehmann. The Tonkawa of Texas which is my home state burned the children of Comanche tribes alive
I don't know what tribe you come from but I promise you they had they're own religion and the trees where they're church. If you're ancestors saw your non-binary pan sexual furry ass they'd treat you as little more than an animal and the only use for a wild animal in a church is as a sacrifice
I am a Catholic Christian, but I always get upset and despise those who preach in the street or attack a specific group of people, you can believe that they commit sins, yes, but let's not forget that we are in the Western world, where it is rare for someone to have not heard of Jesus Christ, if you want to preach, travel to the Middle East or join one of the remaining cannibal tribes. For example, if you go to a gay parade, and you insult or bother with biblical stories and someone hits you, they are not persecuting you, they are putting you in your place.
I'm part of an Adventist congregation (though I do have my own beliefs 🏳⚧), where there's always been an expectation of persecution, division in the church over caving to the establishment etc. coming in the foretold "end times". Certainly scared me as a kid, making me hope I'd pass away peacefully before such times came (... yeah, I can now see the harm in focusing so much on such teaching). Though, it's actually expected to come from the corrupt "Christian" establishment, which yeah, seems, to unfortunately be becoming more and more of a reality over in the USA... but most Adventists I've met are laser-focused that the problems faced by the church would be about... keeping Saturday as the holy day. Admittedly, I live in a very catholic country that's even had a Sunday shopping ban (which of course was mulled over as the beginning of the end... but so far it's been more of just an inconvenience than anything), but I really don't think at this point that the freedom to practice religion on a different day is going to be the main problem in Christianity... But at least there's the framework of understanding that the mainstream Christianity may be misguided in my church? I hope that's enough for the rest to actually hold on to the greatest commandment - love.
the moral majority was OFFICIALLY founded in 79, it has history long before that but was less organized!
regaurdless of what you think, all things die and nothing lives forever.
you shouldnt have to tell people their all just dancing in a bubble floating thru the void. in fact, they are aware.
all your seeing is them coping with it, nothing more.
existence is truly meaningless, and even without religion we would fight over ideas.
it isnt about whos right
its about maintaining control...
@@jordyplaysgamesAUTISMYEET your point?
there has been many people that tell me that me being bi is a sin, and that me being bi and christian doesn't make sense. I just see a lot of hate in my religion, where it's a sin to hate. and I'm disappointed in how my religion is rn.
The Bible condemns same sex marriage in multiple verses, so bisexuality's openness to same sex marriage does go against the Christian faith.
I think the biggest issue with Christianity is that the majority of us don't follow Christ. We judge others for sinful behavior when we ourselves are no better, which is why my favorite verse will always be John 8:7.
I think it's actually kinda retorically-semantic problem. For example - what does it actually mean to be bi? Does it mean to engage in erotic activities with people of two genders or does it means having attraction to people of two genders?
Catholic Church is very clear that God does not condemn being anything. He only condemns actions. That way same sex activities are sinful whereas same sex attraction is not.
But the rhetorical ambiguity is also used by pro LGBT+ activists. For example one could pretend that being ostracized due to engaging in same sex interactions is the same as being ostracized due to being born a certain way, which is false equivalence used to invoke greater pity.
It kinda reminds me of how validity was replaced with existence in political rhetorics. For example when one would say that "Republicans believe that I'm not valid" that sounds like something that potentially could be correct whereas "Republicans think that I don't exist" sounds like a funny and laughable thing because of course you exist if you write something on the Internets so Republicans are obviously wrong.
Validity is important and useful concept. One is valid when one is what they think that they are. As such validity is complex and contextual since a person might be valid as trans women while at the same time not valid in thinking that she is autistic (In a scenario when we have a trans women who is not autistic yet believes herself to be). Still a question of whether somebody is or is not valid is open, could have more than one answer to. Whereas the fashion to just replace "validity" with "existence" makes a mockery of any nuances.
I’m not Christian anymore but I’d like to say, if they preach hateful harmful things then they are false prophets which unfortunately a lot of preachers.
Although hating is indeed a sin, don't be fooled because same sex relationships are still a sin, in Christianity we are called to love the sinner but hate the sin, if a Christian tells you something, think if Jesus would have told that
The fact that your religion think that homosexual revalationships is a sin are a first reason why i can't tolerate your religion. gtfo
Came out agnostic (now atheist) to my parents in middle school. Even that young the horrors and atrocities weren't lost to me and the contradictions made no sense.
My parents were furious and attacked me.
There's no hate like Christian love.
@@JoysGameRoom sorry I went through that buddy. I hope you’re doing way better these days.
I'm so sorry that you went through that, and it breaks my heart when people say they had religious trauma. I do not condone people who attack others for their beliefs. I should first introduce myself and say I am a Christian, and as a Christian, the problem wasn't Christianity, it was your parent's fault, who attacked you instead of understanding you.
The phrase "there is no hate like Christian love" actually means "there is no hate like the love of a non-Christian" because the bible *does* say you shouldn't hate. Here! 1John 2:9 says, "Anyone who claims to be in the light but hates a brother or sister is still in the darkness."
If you would like to talk to me more about it i would love to, because you were hurt by people who weren't true Christians.
God bless!
@@magicalgrim3471 I try, not easy but I do try. Me and my parents are now no contact and they aren't very happy people about it.
@ that’s ironic due to how they seem to have a low tolerance for people different from them
@@ronior001 You're just reducing it back to square one - to a shallow singe use of the words hate and love that can be twisted to describe whatever action. Literally changes nothing about the no hate like christian love issue. All you did is pull a no true scotsman while discrediting the problem.
I should add that the phrase "God is dead" was not meant to be taken literally.
Well, a literal interpretation is cool af but not the intended way. Nietzsche said "God is dead" because people were moving away from religion. It signified the end of heavy religion.
Hello! I am a Christian who has been watching and following your content for a while now!
I wanted to say that I honestly love seeing this side of Christianity people don't often talk about for over here in the west. Reading some of these comments after watching the video to its fullest has me broken hearted.
So to those who have somehow been hurt or persecuted by those who call themselves Christians, I am so sorry. That is NOT how Christians are supposed to do things. While I may respectfully disagree the perspective that what has been done in movies have not been done, I would kindly say that I have personally experienced being taunted for my beliefs.
Heck, I recently had a traumatic moment with me because a "friend" of mine didn't want to associate with me because of it.... I admit its a hard road. But I don't force my beliefs on anyone. If someone wants to hear or learn about it, I am more than happy to do it as long as that person isn't forcing me into a corner trying to say something that I can get deeply triggered by due to my past.
This video was super informative and I like how history was said first before diving into where Christianity stands today. Again, while some statements I disgree with peacefully, at the end of the day thoroughly enjoyed! it!
Please don't stop making these videos! I can't wait to see more!
P.S. If any of you have any questions, I will be happy to answer :3
I appreciate this comment, and I wanna be super clear I don't mean this with any malice! I'm extremly sorry if it comes off that way, it's not my intent-
while you're 100% justified in feeling hurt, uncomfortable, attacked etc if someone is taunting you for your beliefs, I think that's a very different issue than what I'm getting at in the video. while I both think it's rude to mock people in general, and just frankly counterproductive to mock individual instead of providing compelling arguments and information, it is not the same thing as being persecuted, oppressed, marginalised, what have you.
i also wanna side note: while i don't know, nor is it my business, what your issue with your friend was- Christianity has been a motivater for physical, political, and social harm against pretty much every marginalised group on the planet. if your friend is lgbt, of another faith/ irreligious, indigenous, disabled, or really any minority I think it was likley less about you and more about a history of fear based on genuine persecution. I don't say that to invalidate your feelings on it at all, and maybe I'm totally off and they're genuinely just a dick- but I know I've personally cut off Christians in my life for those reasons as have many other people.
the groups Christianity has historically stepped on, and then proceed to victim blame, are not just being made fun or or getting rude comments.
i cant realistically list every instance of Christianity being a motivational factor, if not sole motivator, for oppression and violence but a short(ish) list is as follows
- North American residential schools, in which indigenous children were stripped from their families, banned from speaking their native language, forced to convert from their cultural religion to Christianity, and had significant cultural clothing and practices banned (such as forced hair cutting). many children died in these schools and their express purpose was to "kill the indian, save the man", or rather, assimilate or be killed.
- anti-abortion sentiments in the west are heavily rooted in Christianity as stated in the video. this is now becoming a legitament threat, as the US is proposing a federal abortion ban, and women in NC can receive the death penalty for abortion INCLUDING accidental miscarriage. this risks the lives of millions of women who cannot survive a pregnancy, and of millions of children who will be either sent through our very poor Foster care system and/or in homes that do not want them.
- trans people both in the United States and abroad are on the receiving end of a rapidly rising number of hate crimes, and are having our rights stripped away. trans Americans are no longer allowed to get a passport, and when attempting to apply many have had their documents confiscated and have no federal form of ID. this also becomes a pressing issue as lack of ID could now land you in one of the camps being set up. in my home state, supportive parents of trans youth can be investigated and charged with child abuse.
American anti-trans rhetoric is inseparable from Conservative Christianity and some of its loudest voices are self proclaimed christian nationalists.
Christianity is not only the majority religion, but it is inseparable from the american governing regardless of what words are thrown around to say its not. many state capitals have 10 commandments statues at them, again including my home state, states like oklaholma are required to display the 10 commandments in classrooms, things like the "gay panic defence" are valid in court, people are routinely told in lawsuits they're allowed to discriminate against LGBT customers and employees on religious grounds, all of which having been of Christianity. we have god in our pledge and on our money. Bush Sr stated he didnt belive atheists should be allowed to be citizens, and 7 states still have laws baring us from holding office.
white christians specifically are overwhelmingly the least oppressed group in the west.
again I don't say any of this to undermine that being a dick about someone's religion when they're simply existing js wrong and hurtful, but that is extremly small stakes.
me and my fiance are scrambling to get him a passport incase we need to flee the country, and are planning incase his documents are taken. we're getting married this month despite our wedding being at the end of 2026 since gay marriage is returning to SCOTUS, whove stated they want to overturn it. we're unsure if we'll be able to recive healthcare since we use medicaid. my partner was sent to conversion therapy as a teen and has extensive trauma from it, and I experienced physical violence living in the South as a trans person. his university in florida refuses to update his degree with his legal name, so he functionally has no degree now.
I get hateful comments every day on this channel, and sometimes they're hurtful but 99% of the time I've learned to brush them off. I can't brush off being trapped in a country that's said i should be put infront of a firing squad
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Just realize most ideologies can push bad things on minoritized and marginalized individuals and groups.
Christianity is just the piñata of the day.
can VS have/do. any idea or belief is capable of being distorted and corrupted, and subsequently used to harm others. but not all of them have, and not all of them are. its extremely important to correct and educate those in your own communities and be receptive and open when reviving that critisim in return. echochambers do not help anyone and they create more and mkre extreme beliefs. there are plenty of issues I take with my own side of the isle both in regards to atheists and as a leftist, and much of my content around transness as well as an older video of mine about Islam's relationship to the left exist to adress the issues I see in my own communities.
that being said, the groups i listed (native folks, women just as a whole, and lgbt americans) have never historically been responsible for these types of actions, nor display any signs they will in the foreseeable future.
idk I understand the sentiment and I dont exactly disagree but this is just whataboutism regarding things that havent even happened, just theoretically could
Christianity is the stick. ethnic religions, queer folks, immigrants, and impoverishment people are the pinata of the day. and Christianitys been the stick for a good thousand + years. they just cycle through piñatas till they're they're killed, converted, or silenced.
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Thank you, those are all excellent points for how so many groups have persecution complex. The point isn’t that only Christians or non-Christians have persecution complex, but that it’s been politicized to death to a point where “persecution complex” is meaningless and basically virtue signaling.
@@godlesssnowshoe First off, I never saw any malice behind your video. Far from it! I just wanted to give my perspective as someone who is a Christian.
As far as my traumatic event... My friend did identify as LGBT, and I knew this but never judged them because that's not for me to do. Nor is it wise. I love having diverse friends and absolutely LOVE whole heartedly seeing different perspectives. It just hurt me that my friend, finding out that I was Christian called me every slander in the book when I admitted I was a Christan (Although it was weird cause I always wear a cross necklace)
I felt deeply hurt that my friend associated me with the toxic history of Christanity when I literally have never treated them less than a brother/sister from another mother.
Its still kinda touchy for me to think on and talk about since it was honestly very recent. I appreciate your comments though for further clarification and facts. I admit I am a bit sensitive to certain topics about my past but again. I am happy to answer questions when I can.
Also WHAT!? They didn't update his degree?! How dare they. That's just down right stupid that they wouldn't do that. I am sorry that happened :(
Thanks for taking the time to read my comment and write your reply! It honestly made my day
“If your very existence is seen as a threat to them, use that to your advantage” thank You
I like the breakdown of American Christianity and how it came to be. Really puts in perspective why we are where we are today.
get off this channel you literally hate furries
I don’t believe in Christianity but I still think it’s profoundly sad that a religion, something that’s supposed to be a beacon of inspiration and kindness, has so often been twisted and abused to be shaped the way malicious people want it to be.
I believe that's it's quite likely that Trump never even read project 2025. He just has a lot of advisors who he puts a lot of faith and trust in who read it and wholeheartedly support it, some even might have had a hand it writing project 2025.
to be Frank I don't think he cares enough to read the whole thing, but it's evident he's 100% feigning total ignorance of its contents. weather an advisor is summarizing it to him or he's just payed to do what's in it or that he skimmed it or just discussed it with Herritage foundation, i don't know. but he's implementing it to scary accuracy and his ties to it are extensive and direct. weather he actually knows its exact phrasing or not, he is using it as a guide book.
also yes he has worked with multiple people directly who are both authors and editors, over half its authors have professional ties to trump. often extremely direct such as his transition advisor, appointees to his "patriotic education" Committee, his economic advisor, etc. the NY Times link has a full list of people with confimed connections and who those people are in relation to him, its in the desc!
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"to be Frank I don't think he cares enough to read the whole thing"
Understandable. It is about 1000 pages long after all and it seems like he never even read the Bible (his favorite book).
@@godlesssnowshoe Pretty much. With this many executive orders he's got to just be signing every sheet of paper his buddies hand him without a second though...
@godlesssnowshoe *Im* not willing to read the whole thing, and it affects me. No way a billionaire who's above the law like him cares
That's not a good thing, it shows that he's careless.
I can’t stand the people who say you can’t be a democrat and a Christian. I’m looking at you Greg Locke.
OH LORD GREG LOCKE- that man is so unhinged i genuinely think he needs some kind of serious help. also its wild he says that at all lol, the majority of Americans are Christians. by proxy the majority of Democrats are Christians?? like is almost half the country wrong bc u said so Greg lol
I mean... If you are a faithful christian, its pretty hard to be a demcrat not gonna lie.
Democrats typically have a moral standing that goes against the Bible, so its like playing Devils Advocate when you claim to be Christian and Also be ok with people who think abortion is 100% morally ok in all scenarios
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GS, the conservatives are right. By us existing others WILL come out as trans and non conforming more often. AND THAT SHOULD BE OKAY! Their panic about that is literally them just being full mask off with their hatred.
I mean think saying theyre right is maybe a little misguided bc they're saying we TURN people trans/gay- that being around us takes cis straight people and makes them think they should actively choose to be trans or manipulate them to do so-
that being said I do agree w ur statement, I came out pretty much immediate when I learned being trans was "a thing"- I already knew I was but especially as a kid sent through a lot of psychiatric treatment at a young age I just thought it was 1 more thing wrong with me, not that being trans was an actual thing 😭
@@godlesssnowshoe I also got sent through loads of psych treatment as a kid. Glad to know I'm not the only one who got pathologized into oblivion for not being like everyone else. Subbed ♥
I'm sorry to hear that 🩵 while I'm grateful for the help I received (I definitely needed some of it) being put on anti-psychotics as an elementary schooler was. not the best experience 😭 hope ur doing alright man 🩵🩵🩵
@@godlesssnowshoe Same with me. I had feelings for so long as a kid but suppressed them. Once a friend told me about it I thought, and thought. And finally accepted that was what I had felt all these years. It was so hard but finally happier with who I am. It wasn't them telling me I was trans that made me, it was me finally having something to answer as to why I felt this way for so long.
thank for holding up the "is" sign & bringing salvation to us from the morally ungrammatical phrase "god dead"
One thing that I remember thanks to Protomario was that, doesn't the phrase "Christ is King" like a oxymoron in a way? Like it misses the point of Jesus or Christianity in the first place?
According to Christianity Jesus is indeed king. King of the kingdom of heaven, not of the earthly kingdom. King of the higher world but not of this world. Also he basically literally confessed to being king when he was interrogated before crucifixion.
How is that an oxymoron? I need explanation
Hello! This isn’t related to the video, but I wanted to let you know that I just discovered your channel and am really enjoying each video so far! I love your work!
Ew.
@@ctdirect5858 you ain't lookin at a mirror for you to say ew my boy (i assume)
thank you so much!!!♡
@@ashotarakelyan9012 I'm sorry that people's opinions affect you so much.
@ im sorry that some people just being there affects you so much
Very beautiful art! ^^
How the heck is there no likes on this video yet? Am i seriously the first like on a 3 hour old video with over 200 views or is youtube bugging out?
Anyway, honestly yeah this video does just hit the spot, every example of christians overreacting to merely stating that you're not religious is spot on, it's always either you're being "disrespectful", or you're crazy and "you don't belive in anything at all then", it's like merely disagreeing with them means they think you automatically want them dead...
On a more wholesome note i do absolutely adore your art style! I wish i had the mental fortitude to sit down and practice my own drawing skills to that level, instead of just watching youtube all day and fantasising about drawing better.
But yeah i love the way you draw fluff on the characters, my furries always end up looking like their torso and limbs are just poodling with body paint lol
thank you sm i appreciate that!!it's definitely very frustrating. also its definitely just youtube lol, on my studio veiw and my phone it has over 100 likes xD
As someone who recently has deconverted from Christianity and went back to Deism (belief in a creator, but the creator has no divine intervention within our plane of existence), my view point is that there is an unfortunate truth in which christians are inclined to feel or be persecuted even if it is the smallest inconvenience because the Bible tells them that they are not real christians if they are not being hated by the world or being persecuted for your beliefs. A lot of them need to be offended by certain things and play it off as persecution because thats what the scripture wants them to do (not all of them, obviously)
I don't blame christians for this however, they are practically told that they are needed to do this or else they'll be denied the kingdom of God.
I do find a lot of christian doctrine to be positive, but also negative as well. I am a huge advocate of defending the belief and I find major favor in the topic of scripture in doing so. The thing is that I don't want to go back into the faith again. I just think there are too many contradictions and outdated ideas that don't fit our modern day ideals. I just feel like we as humans are meant to be changing, improving and updating things is what makes us thrive and specialize as beings.
Personally, if you are christian, more power to you. it's just that I don't feel like coming back to it to be honest. I love so many things about christian history and how it has shaped society throughout time.
Off-topic: What drawing software do you use?
Clip Studio Paint
Personal opinion, if someone's faith is so fragile about the existence of their god, capital G or otherwise, that they need to silence anyone who questions it's existence then clearly they don't believe their god is superior to naysayers. I say have open, constructive conversation. Sure, you may not know everything about your god, and a question you can't answer for yourself or you aren't comfortable with the answer is good reason for looking into your official doctrine on the matter, thinking critically about it, and figuring out what it means for you. I think we will get closer to "godliness", regardless of if you believe in him or not, by having these conversations with open minds and by thinking critically about it.
Religion should build us up, make us better people for it, love your neighbor and all that. Putting down or discluding others because of it isn't love, it's hate and bigotry.
It sucks that i feel like an unwelcome person for being christian cause of just my own thoughts and guilt by association. having so many hateful people that also call themselves christian is genuinely embarrassing.
I just wanna love God and be kind, man.
It actually goes back to the beginning. The amount of persecution claimed by Christian sources in the Roman Empire is not reflected in non Christian sources. Which you would think thier oppressors would have something to say about it.
this is absoutly true- my main focus here is more so the rise of this specific brand of persecution complex haha. unfortunately even when christians have been blatantly violent, many times throughout history, they always tend to victim blame.
It is.
Don't have much to add, just that this was a good video and I enjoyed watching it!
I believe in that there is a god, but I can't stand organized religion and the desire to be persecuted that so many groups have. Jesus was an awesome dude, but most people who say they believe in him and praize him go against everything he stood for.
Pastafarians are rad though. Rock on pirate lads, may your beer always be cold.
I like how I got recommended by you again after 3 years I remember you when I was 16 remembered I oringally watched your content because a content creator was responding to you but I can't remember
I really love your art
Oh hey, a new video. I've been enjoying what you've been making so far! Keep up the good work
nothing like a furry artist talking about religion /j
yooo immediately subbed for the outro song lol
FUCK YEAH MOON WALKER!!!
@godlesssnowshoe FRR PEAK
YESSSSSS!!! Been waiting for this one :3
It is weird really. Churches are supposed to be safe. Kids get messed with, it is brushed under the rug. A person swings a different way or identifies a certain way, they get threatened. Religion is just so horribly twisted, it has been ruined.
100% agree with all of this. I'm Christian, but holy CRAP people in my religion have SEVERE victim complexes and discriminatory behaviors it's insane. They feel the need to be the victim all the time and it's ridiculous. Like, no Karen, we're not oppressed here in the US of A. You're just getting called out for your childish behavior.
Due to discrimination, especially with disabilities, my mom doesn't feel comfortable at any of the churches nearby due to rumors my father spread, and my mom's disabilities causing her to be excluded pretty severely.
And the fact that its currently being used to opress minorities is sad as hell. Religion and government should NEVER be mixed; it ALWAYS ends up corrupt, regardless of how its used.
After the Bishop spoke at the inauguration, there are now Christians saying not to fall for the "sin of empathy", whatever the hell that means. Western white conservative Christianity is corrupt as hell and needs to be protested against.
Christianity in itself is a contradiction. The bible states that in the end there will be one religion and that has been the goal of christianity for centuries. Even in history there were massacres of entire villages of invaded land just because they refused to believe in their god. The son of god (an omnipotent being mind you who needed sin committed upon his son in order to forgive said sin) was prosecuted as an infidel and murdered.
im glad someone finally said it
FIRST!!! Anyways, I LOVE HOW SPECKLES LOOKS!! HES SO SILLYYYY!!
THANK YOU HE IS ME I LOVE HIM
Yippee! another great video. gonna watch it again bc your friends and finance were distracting me.
LOL REAL also ty xD
Just respect the fact that I hate your faith because people people will abuse me for it until I die.
As a young protestant christian, when Gods Not Dead came out my parents made my family watch it, and it was mostly because of the popular song from the Newsboys at the time lol.
I remember the plot of that movie being a believer being challenged to prove god doesn't exist, and that it ends when he gets the professor to admit that he hates God, and "you can't hate something that doesn't exist" but I remember being confused since he never actually managed to prove his own point.
yeah the movies very... odd regardless of if someone's Christian or not 😭 especially bc Kevin Sorbos character dies at the end?? its just a very weird series lol
@@godlesssnowshoe lmao yeah they gave him that weird redemption thing at the end. I literally remember being upset that they didn't answer the real question they asked and I got nervous because they just skirted around it. weird movie and never watched the sequels either lol
Yaay Moon Walker outro :DD
I LOVE MOON WALKER MANNNN
@@godlesssnowshoe I love your artstyle btw :)
I’ve been through a lot of churches some more mad at the existence of gay or trans people and some not even caring there’s only one church that I went to briefly that didn’t say me being a trans pan person was a sin and that I need to be cleansed for it.
Most churches will tell young impressionable kids and growing teens that it’s wrong and that it’s gross. Well that’s my experience and internalizing that is something that did happen. I’ve hurt alot of people while trying to deal with the internalization of I’m going to burn.
Us vs them mentality is scary
Religions with long texts and arbitrary rules ultimately end up just being a lens of what the person believes, but twisted into being forcefully respected at best, and end all be all of morality at worst. Then when that inevitably leads to polar opposite contradictions under the same religion, we get 45000 denominations.
(Got the 1000th like on this video haha) -- I've been openly nonreligious for over 20 years now, and it only ever comes up when a Christian invokes the Persecution Complex. It's really annoying!
big video for the x0.75 crowd
edit: ok, i did judge the video too soon, this is some amazing comentary accompanied some solid art, but i still do believe this video could use some slower speech. sub gained no matter what!
lol ty xD yeah I know I tend to talk fast haha- that's just how I talk so when I try and slow down it ends up being fast by the end anyway 😭 + I personally prefer fast talking in videos lol.
that being said I agree I should definitely slow down a bit lmao, it's just hard to maintain for a whole video xD
What's the song playing at the end if you don't mind me asking?
Regular People by Moon Walker!♡
@godlesssnowshoe thank so much:)
Well this comments section has a lot of people we should be praying for
Good video!👍
You actually mentioned Francis Schaeffer! I read some of his works a long time ago, on someone's recommendation. They seemed to think he was deep. Since then, I've wanted to discuss his rather strange view on things, but have never found anyone familiar with him. Do you have a take or impression on him?
honestly I think he was an opportunist more than anything, especially considering it seems he mainly stayed out of politics until the events discussed in this video and the larger conversation around abortion becoming a protestant one-
I havent read anything from him since my last video that mentioned him (specifically about protestant opposition to abortion) other than skimming to make sure i was representing him accurately, so I'd probably have to go back and do that to give a particularly nuanced take beyond that?
ultimately though I think he was just one of many evangelicals who while they may be genuine Christians, are also opportunists in the realm of political and ideological debate. People from Ken ham to Billy Graham to Kat Kerr 🤷♂️
I also wish more people would discuss him when talking about the Moral Majoirty and rise of evangelicalism. there's a lot of content creators I deeply respect whove discussed this topic at length and never once mentioned him, but i feel like he was pivotal in gaining more wide spread support.
This is such a difficult topic. I'm an Orthodox Christian and I have many LGBTQ+ friends that I adore and we get along very well, despite them knowing I have much more conservative beliefs. Despite this, there's some things that my people have done that break my heart. We killed Hypatia, and our Catholic brothers and sisters showed no mercy to Beatrice Cenci. I know that my people have done wrong and I am so sorry. But even then, it's not about man's failure- it's God's character that matters. My problem is that the reason why Christianity is so hated and warped here in the west is because our country was founded on Protestant roots and hence why Orthodoxy is much more loving and makes Christianity feel like an ACTUAL religion. Nothing against you by the way, I don't doubt you are very sweet. God bless you.
The correlation between theism and capitalism doesn't really exist. It's completely concocted. Marxism is secular, but you can be a theist and be a Marxist. In the USSR Eastern Orthodox Christianity was given a wink and a nod for years. Oh, they certainly oppressed other religions and other denominations of Christianity, but Eastern Orthodoxy was given a pass. Further, in 1943 they reopened thousands of churches that had been closed prior. That's more than 40 years before the fall of the Berlin wall. This idea that they were `godless commie's` has always been nonsense propaganda. There is a big difference between not allowing organized religion to have any real power, and being an atheist society. Those two things aren't even close.
That's Mean Secularism Is Good Then Religious But We Don't Follow Turkey But We Indonesian Must Follow Like China, in Indonesia They are selling Religious Beliefs like Ruqyah Salt, Habib and Islamic Concert are Sure That Are Fanatic Even though Islam in the Golden Age had a lot of knowledge, there were no fanatics.
I agree with this and am aware lol I'm a Marxist myself- but americans in the 50-60 were subjected to propaganda and American protestantism was used as a catalyst for it
@ Oh absolutely. I was born in 1965, and I actually met a guy while in Germany, who was born 2 weeks before I was in a town about 150 km from Moscow. We compared propaganda, and that was one of the biggest surprises to me at the time. We're talking 1986 when I knew him. In the end, I was fed more propaganda than he was. Though, it was he himself that suggested the reason for that is because there was only one voice in the USSR at that time, whereas there were many voices in the west, so propaganda was a more `complicated` affair.
Imagine being so fragile that you think the majority religion will disappear just because some people don't follow it.
your artstyle is pretty
Im sorry if we have these type of people who literally go against the commandment of love.i hope we can be a loving christian that helps people through hate. But we're the villian,may God forgive us.
In short, if you feel the need to call out all disagreemants as an attack on your faith, then your faith is WEAK, or he whom you worship is.
will anything get better again?
we can hope 🥲
organizing is the best thing we can do right now- if you have a local PSL chapter I'd recommended joining them for organising meetings, or otherwise participating in mutual aid, protest, and community support and building- me and my partner go to the denver PSL meetings and have been helping with putting up posters to help people protect themselves from ICE and are planning to support some of the small businesses run by other members who are at the biggest risk rn ♡
@ i'm sure salt lake city has something
"not in my utah"
That's very hopeful
In my opinion though the time for protest is over and the time for survival is now
You have the right idea with getting a passport and getting the fuck out
I would suggest the Netherlands or perhaps an overseas colony of France
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I still hold the belief that Jesus would hate the modern Christians for NOT following his teachings. So what if I'm trans and bi? I don't believe God hates me for that. Christians need to accept others as different. Religion does not need to exist as a hate filled system.
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Nice sona!
Got recommended this video I think RUclips knows I like Trans Male Content Creators too much >.> not a furry but apparently as a catgirl it’s self reporting me now v.v
That said…. This was a good video. I also had to slow the speed down to .8 bc I couldn’t comprehend what you were saying ADHD and ASD said otherwise.
I don’t use the word God is dead because he never existed to begin with
GOD IS DEAD
BLOOD IS FUEL
HELL IS FULL
W E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E
Hi dear reader, if you came across this comment, i want to say i am very sorry for people persecuted you.
I am very sorry, god is forgiving and a loving god, people are on the other hand are unpredictable. Please don't hate your persecuters, respect them but yet avoid them.
Aleays remember that you can come back to god.
God bless you all and may blessings come to you.
Please look for Luke 23:42...
I love you my brothers/sisters
respect is earned.
Nah I'm not gonna bend the knee. I'll die before that ever happens, Christianity is evil.
1 Timothy 1:8-11
"We know that the law is good if one uses it properly. We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine that conforms to the gospel concerning the glory of the blessed God, which he entrusted to me."
using the bible to prove the bible is circular reasoning, sorry lmao. I don't think this shit is real that is quite possibly the least compelling way to argue anything to a non-Christian.
@@godlesssnowshoe It's all just about faith. Christianity isnt supposed to be a religion but a relationship with Christ. It's not about works either, so someone who murdered in his life, but repented and moved away from that sin, then they are saved. In the bible there were two others next to jesus on the cross, One who denied him and didnt want him, but the other asked him "Remember me when you enter your kingdom" Jesus turned to him and said "You will be with me in paradise" I didnt watch the video yet because I am in a meeting on discord atm, but once I'm done I will come back to edit this comment and try and explain further! ^^
I hope you have an amazing night my friend! ^^
@@godlesssnowshoe you don't realize all reasoning is circular if you dig deep enough
@evilspongebobballoon Prove it!
@@darlalathan6143 There is prove here on earth that proves the existence of god, Science and math proves the existence of a creator. You also gotta think about it too, Nothing can come from nothing. If the universe came from a big bang, From some particles what created those particles?
Christ loves you, repent.
I'd rather die
i mean so does allah, who do i choose in this love triangle
@@rasati It's also always a relationship with a god, toxic yaoi confirmed???
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Thoughts on the 24 churches burned down in Canada?
you mean 24 in the last 4 years? which were on reservations? and investigators believe was done in response to the burials found at residential schools, ie where indigenous people were forced to convert to christianity through extreme violent and genocidal measures?
yeah violence isnt the answer i dont support that, but 24 churches being burned in 4 years in response to physical and cultural genocide of millions, perpetrated to force christianity, isnt really the own you think it is.
retaliation of oppressed groups againt the systems that oppress them does not make the christians persecuted. it is a tiny dose of what indigenous communities have experienced.
@@godlesssnowshoe
The burials found were fake and never proven.
"No human remains found 2 years after claims of ‘mass graves’ in Canada"
New York Post
Do Christians deserve to have their places of worship destroyed?
@therealdeal3837okay so youre indoctrinated and not worthy of further response, got it. im indigenous myself im not remotely interested in conservative christians arguing my family and community history isn't real, thanks. have the day you deserve dude
@@godlesssnowshoe You having a schizo moment or something?
@@godlesssnowshoe I’m not conservative not a Christian. I don’t know why you said that. But good work not entertaining rational discussion, I guess.
May God keep you in His care.
God tells you in the Bible that adulterers nor homosexuals will inherit the Kingdom of God. Nor will thieves etc. To praise God in your life and your relationships, you must not aim to please your flesh, but to please the lord. Many Christians have to deny their flesh to come to the lord, definitely not just homosexuals. If you're a homosexual, thief, adulterer, sinner, the good news is that you can come to the lord. If you truly believed that the creator of the universe said to you that you must not fornicate with humans of your gender, you would not listen to Him? If the God, creator of the universe tells you to never get married, would you listen to him? (not saying that He said this) When you love someone and want to have sex with them, is that love? Is that you wanting to protect them? Love and sex are different. You can love people from afar, and you can have love for someone, but it does not mean you should have sex with them.
what a good day for the bible to be fictional
@ Lord I pray for this person, that they feel your love and your desire to have a connection with them. Lord I pray that you strengthen my faith and help me grow closer to you lord. I thank you for your daily blessings, I pray you deliver us from the evil one. Thank you oh mighty Lord for your forgiveness and grace. In Jesus name is pray Amen
@DrewisConfused why are u praying in my comments section dude do it in ur head lmao, thats weird as hell even from a Christian stand point 💀
@@godlesssnowshoe I'm sharing my prayer
@ It may seem weird but I'm only saying this because I care about you I could just say oh what a shame and completely forget about you easy as that but I'm trying to talk to you and pray for you because thats what God taught me. And you know what, you might continue to blaspheme my God and mock my religion, but the Lord cannot be mocked. If you think it is foolish for a man to dedicate his life to the teachings of Jesus Christ, why do you dedicate yours to mocking Christianity? A connection with God is a blessing. Thats why I pray for you.
At this point, every group, demographic, religion, political party, and sexuality has a persecution complex.
Let's not be reductive. Some persecution is real, Christian persecution, in the west, isn't.
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Depends on what kind of persecution are talking about.
@@Talon19 Saying "happy holidays" instead of "merry Christmas" isn't persecution, it's just someone trying to be neutral.
Point out one case of persecution against Christans in the west.
@
Hate, insults, slander, denigration, intolerance, vandalism, arson, mockery.
Churches being closed despite other businesses, private and public, being open during the pandemic; politicians prevented or claiming to be unfit because of their faith (ANY FAITH), religious iconography being taken down despite being on private property.
This isn’t difficult to find.
Hell, **I** experienced Christian persecution and I’m not even affiliated with any Christian church.
What you need to do is think outside the binary and realize persecution, discrimination, etc isn’t just a “not happening at all” and being a nationwide phenomenon.
Well some of them actually are being persecuted though
I don't think it's a complex if they're actually being persecuted
I remember my Mom getting me and my brothers together to watch God's Not Dead when I was a young teen. We all ate it up, including my Mom. But looking back, it really was pretty obnoxious. I think there is a legitimate fear of discrimination for being a Christian, but NEVER in the United States. We were founded as a nation under God by Europeans of almost exclusively some form of Christian faith.
As someone who got hardcore into conservative politics from 2017-2020 (I watched tons of Steven Crowder, Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh, etc), I think I can speak for conservatives when I say we have some legitimate fears for the country, but removing freedom of religion is NOT one of them. The people who fear-monger about that are 100% in an absurd echo chamber.
I think schools, and frankly the government as a whole, needs to remove the Pride movement from its facilities. But God should be removed too. No indoctrination anywhere of any kind, just let people decide who they are as an individual without these pathetic attempts at influencing minds.
I hope one day this country can stop trying to make as many categories to divide ourselves into as possible, because it is not what's different that makes us empowered, but what we share as Americans. Rights, freedoms, opportunities. We spend so much time fighting each other that we don't make room for compromise, reason, understanding. And unfortunately, it seems we never will.
love your comment, its awesome to see someone wanting the idea of getting along with someone you dont agree with,freedom for all, not just me, but sadly i think your breath is wasted in this comment section, the vid creator is hostile and openly marxist.
while I don't agree with the sentiement about pride due to its historical relevance and purpose, (and the fact that that's not really what indoctrination is) I can generally agree everywhere else for the most part🤷♂️ also yeah the gods not dead movies suck lol. like even 100% devoid of any moral issue I take with them I just. they are written so badly its insane 😭 I can enjoy good Christian media if its just genuinely good art, but LORD pureflix get a grip lol
Education is a form of indoctrination, so removing all indoctrination from schools is counterproductive.
@@zmike9831
Give timestamps for all Marxist beliefs.
@Talon19 they said they were in a comment in another video, idk which, id have to look. also, if education is a form of indoctrination hows something like mathematics fall in that category?
Well as Muslim, Allah Is Not Dead But If You From Western Country and Became Atheist I Respect that because Judges People Are bad In Islam Only I Judges Is film Production Making Propanganda LGBT dan LGBT in Sports Like Bro You can Be LGBT but doesn't have to Propanganda
I'm Not homophobic, I just Don't Wanna let People Making Propaganda and respect People Who Don't like LGBT's dan Atheist, I just Don't like it But I Respect it
Are Sure you Say Is fact Simple In Indonesia Who Be Religious But Still Corrupt, bro Like Scared god But The Government Dan The Peoples Are Stolen Money (corruption) Well In China, China Was Successful Beacuse They Don't Believe God But not fanatic, We Indonesian People must Have To Secularism Then Religious but We Do not Leave Religion
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@@prageruwu69 oh sorry cuz I'm Autism
@@prageruwu69cuz I'm Autism
Hey listen, i understand the ingrained hostility you have for religion but Christian communities and what you are can live in communion. The LGBTQ community sees itself as people deserving dignity and that concept of human rights in democracies come from the history of religious beliefs, before identity groups where under the microscope and ethnic groups where characterised. It was through religion that all government and social communication happened
putting aside the fact that civil rights are not actually my main reason for being opposed to religion, they're just the specific subject of this video- this is absoutly false. religion, especially western Christianity, is historically responsible for justifying atrocities way more frequently than it is anything else. even pre-cold war.
especially as an American Indian I'm rather disgusted with people holding this belief, especially when specifically claiming its HELPED ethnic groups. your dilusion has done nothing for my ancestors and my family. it has only been justified to go from killing us, starving us, displacing us- and then once that's said and done, forced upon us throughout abject violence and cultural genocide. my dead grandma is the only one in our family who's speaks our language, and that is the direct fault of your religion undeniably trying to erase us and physically cram us into the box. your religion did NOTHING for us. it makes me extreamly sad to see how many in my community and other native communities are still Christian. to see how many people don't know their language or culture. the "reconnection" is even a nessasaity for anyone.
"identity groups" have always been under a microscope weather that's American tribes, the black community, gay men, trans people, Jews, muslims, atheists, communists. tell me that anyone of those communities persecution didn't have heavy ties to Christianity, and you'd be lying. in all those cases being "other" was a threat to the religion. all of them. and the solution has varied from killing those in these groups to attempted to force us/them by any means nessasry to be cramed, squished, and hammered into the little box Christianity made for us.
Christianity only benefits Christianity. and the marginalised groups you mention weren't helped by it, we were told assimilate or die.
@godlesssnowshoe first off I don't seek the distraction of anyone's culture and I value the beauty of different people's worlds on our planet however ''if I am not for myself who will be for me'' I expect you to be the same but no. You are under the delusion that socialism or some kind of communism can work in some fairy future, compared to that god makes perfect sense. Second I think you're a little too nostalgic about the relationship native American tribes and the Christian colonists had. Before AND after the white man came they hunted and killed each other not as noble conflict or whatever people tell themselves, it was wars every season violent and bloody
I suggest you read the book (Nine years among the Indians) by herman Lehmann. The Tonkawa of Texas which is my home state burned the children of Comanche tribes alive
Perhaps you would like to go back to a time when over half the the people in America would be dead before the age of 3
I don't know what tribe you come from but I promise you they had they're own religion and the trees where they're church. If you're ancestors saw your non-binary pan sexual furry ass they'd treat you as little more than an animal and the only use for a wild animal in a church is as a sacrifice
I am a Catholic Christian, but I always get upset and despise those who preach in the street or attack a specific group of people, you can believe that they commit sins, yes, but let's not forget that we are in the Western world, where it is rare for someone to have not heard of Jesus Christ, if you want to preach, travel to the Middle East or join one of the remaining cannibal tribes.
For example, if you go to a gay parade, and you insult or bother with biblical stories and someone hits you, they are not persecuting you, they are putting you in your place.
I'm part of an Adventist congregation (though I do have my own beliefs 🏳⚧), where there's always been an expectation of persecution, division in the church over caving to the establishment etc. coming in the foretold "end times". Certainly scared me as a kid, making me hope I'd pass away peacefully before such times came (... yeah, I can now see the harm in focusing so much on such teaching).
Though, it's actually expected to come from the corrupt "Christian" establishment, which yeah, seems, to unfortunately be becoming more and more of a reality over in the USA... but most Adventists I've met are laser-focused that the problems faced by the church would be about... keeping Saturday as the holy day. Admittedly, I live in a very catholic country that's even had a Sunday shopping ban (which of course was mulled over as the beginning of the end... but so far it's been more of just an inconvenience than anything), but I really don't think at this point that the freedom to practice religion on a different day is going to be the main problem in Christianity...
But at least there's the framework of understanding that the mainstream Christianity may be misguided in my church? I hope that's enough for the rest to actually hold on to the greatest commandment - love.