It totally does! I train at the mma lab in az. All the toughest matches I have are guys from the fight team who always look to get to the single leg to get up rather than play the jujitsu game. It makes everything I do offensively damn near impossible!
The biggest problem I have from standing up from turtle, having transitioned from wrestling to jits, is that there's never any forward pressure from turtle. By the time I defend the attacks, everyone just kinda falls off of turtle and I end up with a reversal. In jits, unlike in wrestling or mma, people will just fall back and literally pull you on top of them, which is a monumentally stupid idea in any rule set except for a jiujitsu tournament.
But you can start punching. The entire point of all grappling is to get back to your feet and start punching again. Or preferably not get taken down to stop punching in the 1st place .
The entire point of Jujitsu is to finish the training session so that you can continue doing something else like video games and buying things in a shop.
Actually, his using a wrestling sit out to shift Spencer’s weight off the back which is equal to a stand up or sake off of your opponent. It call a low sit out. Coach you are correct in your narrative. Excellent break down of using both wrestling and jujitsu! Coach Al
In wrestling we focus on getting that inside leg out once we get to that forward sit out position. That’s the most important thing. The powerhalf is useless once you get that leg out. He shouldn’t be able to pull you back from that position unless you’re a total scrub. Also, first escape should be to get that inside elbow between you and “swim” him off. The way homeboy was hanging off the side with that leg in, you wouldn’t need to do the forward sit…he is more than halfway to his own him. The top man needs to ride him like a horse or he will fall off (his powerhalf was the only thing keeping him from falling off)
The power half is definitely not useless once you get the leg out. He still has control of your neck (and shoulder) and can attack several submissions if you don’t clear that elbow. This is bias from learning wrestling first, and part of the point of this video is to show that different grappling styles complement each other, there is no one perfect system.
@@duketea_ I always get a good laugh when people try to shame me for my time wrestling when I literally have trained Judo and Jiu Jitsu for years. There are successful ways to control people on the mat and unsuccessful ways to control people on the mat. A basic understanding of wrestling escapes and he is out of there. If someone is absolutely flat and you cover them with your hips, then the power half is ok. But if they have a base, you can so easily head shrug or swim out of it. Heavyweight wrestlers use a powerhalf all the time without legs, and as soon as the bottom man gets his base, he is out. It’s literally one of the first things that we teach wrestlers. A powerhalf or seatbelt grip without legs in is not a ride. You first stay under the arms and secure legs in. Then you can work the powerhalf or seatbelt. Without legs and it’s a joke to escape. Position before submission as the saying goes and without control (position) you have more prayer in submission. Several well known catch wrestlers talk about this exact thing. Barnett is one of them. Again this is from the knees. If he sits out, that’s a bit different because you can go to the bulldog choke, but my original reply on this post addressed the position being shown here, which is a person in turtle
oh man! this is very similar to priit mihkelson running man position and defense. i love it. check out priit mihkelson if you haven't heard of him. the shaking them off the back and turning into them is an extremely fascinating defense and can turn the tables quickly
The "problem" is that BJJ should never be separated from Judo in the first place. For example there are many takedowns and PINS (to keep you from just standing up). The time for having all of these different grappling arts is over. There is only one grappling art which combines all of the most effective techniques of freestyle wrestling, greco, catch wrestling, sambo, etc etc you get the point. When I first started in BJJ (Im only purple belt), i thought it was funny that there are no take downs. All of the takedowns come from Judo or other martial arts. Then I learned the history of BJJ and realized why this was so, and at the same time how silly it is to limit your move selection to one martial art. Take from greco, take from sumo if you can find something and try it. No matter what don`t be limited. I love college wrestling; so I figured out how to turn single leg takedowns and leg laces into leg locks and knee bars, my own system. That's what this journey is about really. Find what works for your body type and your temperament. Just stand up works until you have a strong wrestler on top holding you down or a Judoka who has strong ground game and Pins. Great video, big fan, and would love to see this in practice from you Craig soon.
Judo and bjj are more different than ever. You say they shouldn't be classified as different but then say you're whole game is wrestling single legs and leg locks, those moves are basically non existent in judo (or banned from judo for decades)
It’s amazing to have the humility to say you were wrong for 15 years of your life and just say the the marital art you’re so passionate about has a huge fault
The window of opportunity for top man is when he reaches back to secure arm. I was a leg rider my whole wrestling career. At that point, you'd simply take tour free arm to spear through the arm he's reach back with to break his grip, place that wrist behind you head and swim you near arm under his arm pit and pick up the head ....locking hands together for guillotine pinning combination. Eddie Bravo calls this the Twister. Reaching back in any fashion is what a good leg rider actually wants you to do
great demo master, good job guys 🥇🥇🏆🏆 show series techniques on IZAAK MICHELL 🥋🥋 leg locks, toe hold, kneebar, bow and arrow choke, back triangle, GI chokes, gogoplata from guard pretty please thank you 💪💪👋👋🔥🔥
Good stuff. But you should have the big guy working the power half on the little guy. More realistic and proves the technique better. Just a suggestion. No criticism intended!
Whenever someone tries to pull you into guard just stand up... once you learn how to pull out of the leg lock attempt you'll Escape every time and they'll have to stand up under referee instructions and that automatically shows who's winning the fight... just stand up is a phenomenal strategy poorly depicted in this video. When I first started attending Brazilian jiu-jitsu clubs I already had Decades of experience in wrestling and Judo so I would often just stand up then the BJJ guy would stop grappling and instruct me to come back down to the ground and continue grappling on my knees... it was many years ago when I figured out sport Brazilian jiu-jitsu was ridiculous yet for some reason people still think rolling around on the ground is awesome way to practice martial arts
This is just like me saying “I went to a boxing gym and they told me to stop kicking and doing takedowns, boxing is ridiculous because they dont do kicks and takedowns” Obviously in MMA you have to.. mix .. martial. arts.
@@kris3451 good question, actually all you have to do is stand up and then start mugging to the crowd... dance around with your hands up, point at his corner and call him a coward, just stand there and flex, the crowd will love you and hate him because everyone will know who's afraid to fight like a man, works every time! Remember the average mixed-martial-arts crowd in the United States hates ground fighting and will only tolerat it for a few seconds before they want to see the action stood up for Rock'em sock'em robots!
Butt scooting and being comfortable on bottom is such a bad habit for self defense and mma. I'm trying to unlearn that habit and incorporate more wrestling... learning to "fight" for real
I'd rather see a B-Team breakdown of how to use Northern White Crane kung-fu to defeat the Southern style of Choy Li Fut kung-fu. For anyone thinking I'm even remotely kidding: I'm not -.-
Inspired by Jeff Chan's video today, Jesse Enkamp "Proving" BJJ Doesn't Work, & Derrick Lewis JUST STAND UP I decided to rename and repost my video filmed well over 10 years ago showing 8 GET UPS. Of course these are Essential for Street Self-Defense as well, & I had 10 Metal Melisha "Garage Fighters" trying to stomp me when I was down when I came to MMA Author My Editor of Ultimate Athlete Magazine Clyde Gentry when he was sucker punched at the end of an "Pre-scripted Pro-wrestling" MMA Event in SoCal that Tito Ortiz put on. I have not seen Craig Jones JUST STAND UP but I did included how to properly get up to base and defend kicks and flying stomps when down at the end of my 4 1/2 Hour Combatives & Street Jiu-jitsu instructional which is the highest rated Self-Defense on BJJFanatics ruclips.net/video/nQckdFAhwns/видео.html
Standing up is part of a grappler's repertoire and has been since ever, it's a curious observation by Craig. Maybe *his* game had a hole, it's not a hole in Jiu Jitsu.
Naaah, definitely a hole in jits. I've been in this business for 30 years now, and 95% of jiu-jitsu guys don't know how to stand up against a resisting opponent. And the ones who know have often wrestling/MMA backgrounds.
@@MesGuided Watch any Folkstyle wrestling instructional out there. It's a big part of their game. Catch wrestling as well, but those videos are harder to find.
@@kallepikku4991 WTF are you talking about? And what "business" have you been in for thirty years? Jiu-jitsu has escapes from every conceivable position and hold on the ground. There's a difference between wanting to stand up, and not knowing how to do it.
Lol, If you "just stand up" in grappling/mma/bjj or whatever, you are not fighting a real opponent. If I get you to the ground you either manage to get away from me and then stand up or you simply stay on the ground with me.
@@kallepikku4991 Wrestling works pretty well as a way to avoid jiu-jitsu, and either stand up or not go to the ground in the first place. Wrestlers are generally dopey, and don't perceive the sadness or irony in their grappling art being used merely as a method to avoid another grappling art, and to avoid grappling generally.
At no point did anyone stand up.
You have to buy the instructional to get that part
Lol
If you look really closely you can see Craig stand up
Lmao
Standing up is a state of mind.
Your using the dark arts of psychology. Now I have to buy the video. I’ll never be able to stand up without it.
It totally does! I train at the mma lab in az. All the toughest matches I have are guys from the fight team who always look to get to the single leg to get up rather than play the jujitsu game. It makes everything I do offensively damn near impossible!
I'm so jealous. That's such a hellacious team.
Bro the mma lab is legit as hell. I loved my time there
Wdym, doesn't the single leg lead to the jiu jitsu?
@@metalkicker23 I think they're talking getting in on a leg from bottom to wrestle up and either sweep or stand
"The ground is my Ocean and I am a Sea Cucumber"
Man... jitsu guys discovering wrestling fundamentals. I wanted to keep this stuff secret! lol
3:34 Spencer catching a stray
he's jealous
The biggest problem I have from standing up from turtle, having transitioned from wrestling to jits, is that there's never any forward pressure from turtle. By the time I defend the attacks, everyone just kinda falls off of turtle and I end up with a reversal.
In jits, unlike in wrestling or mma, people will just fall back and literally pull you on top of them, which is a monumentally stupid idea in any rule set except for a jiujitsu tournament.
But you can start punching. The entire point of all grappling is to get back to your feet and start punching again. Or preferably not get taken down to stop punching in the 1st place .
@@avancalledrupert5130 Bro described the opposite of grappling
@@thomasstiehler9865 😂
The entire point of Jujitsu is to finish the training session so that you can continue doing something else like video games and buying things in a shop.
I used to train exactly like that with some of my training partners. Goal was to always stand up if you can. And with gi.
Neil Melansons tactical turtle covers some power half counters that start off the same too. Some of Neils stuff are a hidden gem.
Actually, his using a wrestling sit out to shift Spencer’s weight off the back which is equal to a stand up or sake off of your opponent. It call a low sit out. Coach you are correct in your narrative. Excellent break down of using both wrestling and jujitsu!
Coach Al
some of the best free content out there. Thanks B Team
I read that as free coconut at first
In wrestling we focus on getting that inside leg out once we get to that forward sit out position. That’s the most important thing. The powerhalf is useless once you get that leg out. He shouldn’t be able to pull you back from that position unless you’re a total scrub.
Also, first escape should be to get that inside elbow between you and “swim” him off. The way homeboy was hanging off the side with that leg in, you wouldn’t need to do the forward sit…he is more than halfway to his own him. The top man needs to ride him like a horse or he will fall off (his powerhalf was the only thing keeping him from falling off)
You also dont have to worry about getting choked
The power half is definitely not useless once you get the leg out. He still has control of your neck (and shoulder) and can attack several submissions if you don’t clear that elbow.
This is bias from learning wrestling first, and part of the point of this video is to show that different grappling styles complement each other, there is no one perfect system.
@@duketea_ I always get a good laugh when people try to shame me for my time wrestling when I literally have trained Judo and Jiu Jitsu for years. There are successful ways to control people on the mat and unsuccessful ways to control people on the mat. A basic understanding of wrestling escapes and he is out of there. If someone is absolutely flat and you cover them with your hips, then the power half is ok. But if they have a base, you can so easily head shrug or swim out of it. Heavyweight wrestlers use a powerhalf all the time without legs, and as soon as the bottom man gets his base, he is out. It’s literally one of the first things that we teach wrestlers. A powerhalf or seatbelt grip without legs in is not a ride. You first stay under the arms and secure legs in. Then you can work the powerhalf or seatbelt. Without legs and it’s a joke to escape. Position before submission as the saying goes and without control (position) you have more prayer in submission. Several well known catch wrestlers talk about this exact thing. Barnett is one of them. Again this is from the knees. If he sits out, that’s a bit different because you can go to the bulldog choke, but my original reply on this post addressed the position being shown here, which is a person in turtle
very complicated but amazing. thanks.
I don't think Craig is a better coach than John, but the accent sure helps put him over.
oh man! this is very similar to priit mihkelson running man position and defense. i love it. check out priit mihkelson if you haven't heard of him. the shaking them off the back and turning into them is an extremely fascinating defense and can turn the tables quickly
2nd best BJJ content. Thanks B-team
I just previewed the Instructional and you pushing on that kids back lmao.
Finally someone is making a stand to expose a seated sport 😂
beautifully taught, so many good details on turning a bad position into a good one -
The "problem" is that BJJ should never be separated from Judo in the first place. For example there are many takedowns and PINS (to keep you from just standing up). The time for having all of these different grappling arts is over. There is only one grappling art which combines all of the most effective techniques of freestyle wrestling, greco, catch wrestling, sambo, etc etc you get the point. When I first started in BJJ (Im only purple belt), i thought it was funny that there are no take downs. All of the takedowns come from Judo or other martial arts. Then I learned the history of BJJ and realized why this was so, and at the same time how silly it is to limit your move selection to one martial art. Take from greco, take from sumo if you can find something and try it. No matter what don`t be limited. I love college wrestling; so I figured out how to turn single leg takedowns and leg laces into leg locks and knee bars, my own system. That's what this journey is about really. Find what works for your body type and your temperament. Just stand up works until you have a strong wrestler on top holding you down or a Judoka who has strong ground game and Pins. Great video, big fan, and would love to see this in practice from you Craig soon.
Judokas without gi are trash
yes, and judo is just jutaijutsu without weapons
Yeah you can't be a true high level grappler if all you know is newaza. Good thing my gym is finally adding in more wrestling classes
Judo and bjj are more different than ever. You say they shouldn't be classified as different but then say you're whole game is wrestling single legs and leg locks, those moves are basically non existent in judo (or banned from judo for decades)
@@alvarofernande833 usually yes, but there are other examples...
Wow! Thanks boss! I love escapes, reversals, and counters.
What was the “standing up” bit? 😂 super slick technique by the way
It’s amazing to have the humility to say you were wrong for 15 years of your life and just say the the marital art you’re so passionate about has a huge fault
What's amazing about it?
Goddamn bots.
It seems to me that it's wrestling that has the huge fault: all it can do is run away scared from jiu-jitsu, and try to avoid the ground at all costs.
As someone who has met Derrick Lewis I can confirm, he’s really good at standing up.
Excellent details. Thank you.
nice to see Progress has made it to the B team
I learnt what happened to John Conners friend who lied to the t1000 in terminator 2. He travelled to the future to train bjj with Craig Jones.
Nothing can beat the gut wrench, the ultimate hold down ride move
Yurp
Yes
I have an amazing flare headed gut wrench.....
The ref easily beast it when you're called out for stalling.
The window of opportunity for top man is when he reaches back to secure arm.
I was a leg rider my whole wrestling career.
At that point, you'd simply take tour free arm to spear through the arm he's reach back with to break his grip, place that wrist behind you head and swim you near arm under his arm pit and pick up the head ....locking hands together for guillotine pinning combination.
Eddie Bravo calls this the Twister.
Reaching back in any fashion is what a good leg rider actually wants you to do
Thats not how that's gunna happen. He's not reaching back. He's posting on the elbow. As soon as you leave your underhook, he's sweeping.
@@muhbussy9813Assuming the top man sucks, that's reasonable
Where is the jay rod Nicky footage? Release the tapes!!!
"Fight never happened - look into it" - Eddie Bravo
Friday
What happened?
@@craigjones8662 you keep teasing us 😭😭😭
1:32 🍺
I've been doing this forever! Without watching the video but just reading the headline I get out
Catch wrestling is best❤❤
i wonder if there are any moves specifically targeting the funny bone 😄
very insightfull, many thanks!
shouldve stood up when Kaynan was on you
great demo master, good job guys 🥇🥇🏆🏆
show series techniques on IZAAK MICHELL 🥋🥋
leg locks, toe hold, kneebar, bow and arrow choke, back triangle, GI chokes, gogoplata from guard
pretty please thank you 💪💪👋👋🔥🔥
Good stuff. But you should have the big guy working the power half on the little guy. More realistic and proves the technique better.
Just a suggestion. No criticism intended!
Looks great 👍
Chuck lidel was the perfect fighter for this, great anti-grappling game but he was also a good wrestler.
Coz he was a wrestler who learned how to kickbox.
Craig’s a Jiu Jitsu jenius.
LMAO, just because you're unfamiliar with wrestling basics doesn't make him a genius. He's just introducing old stuff to new guys.
Good video
Power half is powerful because its first word is “power” duh.
Hey Spence!
hello
Whenever someone tries to pull you into guard just stand up... once you learn how to pull out of the leg lock attempt you'll Escape every time and they'll have to stand up under referee instructions and that automatically shows who's winning the fight... just stand up is a phenomenal strategy poorly depicted in this video. When I first started attending Brazilian jiu-jitsu clubs I already had Decades of experience in wrestling and Judo so I would often just stand up then the BJJ guy would stop grappling and instruct me to come back down to the ground and continue grappling on my knees... it was many years ago when I figured out sport Brazilian jiu-jitsu was ridiculous yet for some reason people still think rolling around on the ground is awesome way to practice martial arts
Every wrestler/fighter knows this. People just don't want to admit it.
@@kallepikku4991 why dont they all just stand up?!
This is just like me saying “I went to a boxing gym and they told me to stop kicking and doing takedowns, boxing is ridiculous because they dont do kicks and takedowns” Obviously in MMA you have to.. mix .. martial. arts.
@@ML-nj8fq if you're at a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu gym and they try to pull guard on you just stand up bro
@@kris3451 good question, actually all you have to do is stand up and then start mugging to the crowd... dance around with your hands up, point at his corner and call him a coward, just stand there and flex, the crowd will love you and hate him because everyone will know who's afraid to fight like a man, works every time! Remember the average mixed-martial-arts crowd in the United States hates ground fighting and will only tolerat it for a few seconds before they want to see the action stood up for Rock'em sock'em robots!
Priit Mihkelson vibes.
inspired by derick lewis :D
does b-Team allow beginners?
Craig is gonna get a lot of hate for the title. Hahaha. How dare you say wrestling beats jiu-jitsu under any circumstances?!?!?
Hey, you sound like Bandit from Bluey :)
Gold
is spencer a dwarf?
"stand up and strip grips" just like judo too
wait, was that a burp at 1:31 ?
Roman Greco I believe will destroy jujitsu, any expert opinions?
It's an extremely limited rulest in a no rules fight.
Folkstyle wrestling is huge for this. Not so much freestyle.
Used to be still back in 1990s. Unfortunately they've changed the freestyle rules so much, it's become a takedown battle.
How to use wrestling to beat bjj.
Step 1: unsign for your local grappling tournament.
Step 2: sign up for mma.
Been trying this for months in class with no sucess. Getting dragged down to my butt everytime. Any help?
Butt scooting and being comfortable on bottom is such a bad habit for self defense and mma. I'm trying to unlearn that habit and incorporate more wrestling... learning to "fight" for real
Whos the off brand gianni gripoo?
Why do they never wear spats
Derrick Lewis just stands up
Just stand up FIRST
Kenny vs spenny
I'd rather see a B-Team breakdown of how to use Northern White Crane kung-fu to defeat the Southern style of Choy Li Fut kung-fu. For anyone thinking I'm even remotely kidding: I'm not -.-
Inspired by Jeff Chan's video today, Jesse Enkamp "Proving" BJJ Doesn't Work, & Derrick Lewis JUST STAND UP I decided to rename and repost my video filmed well over 10 years ago showing 8 GET UPS. Of course these are Essential for Street Self-Defense as well, & I had 10 Metal Melisha "Garage Fighters" trying to stomp me when I was down when I came to MMA Author My Editor of Ultimate Athlete Magazine Clyde Gentry when he was sucker punched at the end of an "Pre-scripted Pro-wrestling" MMA Event in SoCal that Tito Ortiz put on. I have not seen Craig Jones JUST STAND UP but I did included how to properly get up to base and defend kicks and flying stomps when down at the end of my 4 1/2 Hour Combatives & Street Jiu-jitsu instructional which is the highest rated Self-Defense on BJJFanatics ruclips.net/video/nQckdFAhwns/видео.html
is he doing the wrong gable grip?
As a White belt, this is gold 👍🏽
How’s the burp at 1:30 😂
You're not using wrestling to beat jiu-jitsu. You're using wrestling to avoid jiu-jitsu, to run from it.
If I can use my tools on you and you can't on me, I win.
Standing up is part of a grappler's repertoire and has been since ever, it's a curious observation by Craig. Maybe *his* game had a hole, it's not a hole in Jiu Jitsu.
Naaah, definitely a hole in jits.
I've been in this business for 30 years now, and 95% of jiu-jitsu guys don't know how to stand up against a resisting opponent.
And the ones who know have often wrestling/MMA backgrounds.
@@kallepikku4991 could you recommend any videos that teach the basics of standing against resisting opponent?
@@MesGuided Watch any Folkstyle wrestling instructional out there. It's a big part of their game. Catch wrestling as well, but those videos are harder to find.
@@kallepikku4991 thank you, will do
@@kallepikku4991 WTF are you talking about? And what "business" have you been in for thirty years? Jiu-jitsu has escapes from every conceivable position and hold on the ground. There's a difference between wanting to stand up, and not knowing how to do it.
why does 1:31 sound like a burp 😭
Are you going to make a RUclips video that actually shows a person standing up?
The guy talking is probably really good at standing up, but the other 2 are a work in progress.
1:31
This is what happens when nerds take steroids. Impressive its really now becoming like chess in quite a resounding way.
Good techniques being shown. Shit flag on wall.
...I am still waiting for someone to stand up
Swim to win. ;)
“Derrick Lewis inspired” the disrespect bro 😂😂😂
Emelio Esteves’ kid is a dead ringer
Do not Turtle in MMA. Ever.
Plus where is the stand up here 😂
Only Jitsu beats Jitsu. Period.
Lol, If you "just stand up" in grappling/mma/bjj or whatever, you are not fighting a real opponent. If I get you to the ground you either manage to get away from me and then stand up or you simply stay on the ground with me.
Next video: Just roll a turtle over.
Good luck with that lol
Why does everyone have a shirt on? Lame.
Clickbait
jiu jitsu doesn't really work
Jiu-jitsu works excellent under IBJJF rules.
@@kallepikku4991 Wrestling works pretty well as a way to avoid jiu-jitsu, and either stand up or not go to the ground in the first place. Wrestlers are generally dopey, and don't perceive the sadness or irony in their grappling art being used merely as a method to avoid another grappling art, and to avoid grappling generally.
It evidently has worked pretty well on you, or else you wouldn't have clicked on this video.
Noone stood up lol
These bumpkins can't tell me how to jits
The title of the instructional is misleading there’s ALOT more to it, a whole bunch of crucifix attacks.., jk
Is this BJJ? it's MGK😂
I’m sure there’s value here but no one breaks things down and makes them profound and understandable like Danaher does
From I see from HS and college 🤼♀️ while in ref position or quarters you cannot pry away opponents hands until standing.
Craig Jones all over that Gordon Ryan dvd 😂
🔥
So where's the real slim shady ?
1:32