Sheds: Build Or Buy? ULTIMATE Cost Breakdown
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- Опубликовано: 27 июн 2024
- I've been asked to build a shed, but the client is also considering buying a pre-fabricated shed. So In this video, I do a full cost breakdown comparison of the timber and labour required to build vs buy - using costs from timber merchants, sawmills and DIY stores! Which is cheapest? And which will yield the best quality shed? Let's find out!
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Your Brother gets a new shed, you get great content to film, we get great content to enjoy. Win win win. Get some tool companies on board to sponsor it and double dip! Love your work.
He's sponsored by Milwaukee
And we get to see cats in the video. Win win win win.
I dread to think how long you spent researching and collating all of these figures… and that time should (in my opinion) be factored into quotes for jobs like this too. Customers often overlook how much time you spend designing, calculating and ordering the materials before a job has even started. It can easily add up to an extra days work. I did a double car port build recently and about 15% of the labour charge was for time spent planning and ordering materials
Don’t forget he’s making money off this video too
It's nowhere near as much as you'd think.@@BigSkyC0untry
He’s only done it for his brother (who wants the shed) himself and for this video. He wouldn’t break down such costs of building a shed. He would price materials and his day rate.
Film it Keith. The shed trilogy. Love a shed build.
This. Do this Keith. I first subbed you on the release of your first workshop build - which was 9 years ago! Where has that time gone, probably with our hair colour....
I did my own in lockdown, a 12x10ft shed with a pent roof, epdm covering, 3x2 framing, 18mm ply floor, 12mm roof, breathable membrane and 25mm feather edge cladding with s/h UPVC windows and I made my own door. It came to under £2000 just before prices went mad. I couldn’t have done it without watching your build videos, Liam Griffin’s summerhouse builds and 21st century caveman’s videos too so thank you.
I’ve insulated it with recycled bottle insulation and clad the inside with a mix of pallet wood and 11mm OSB and also installed a Campervan style diesel heater.
I had quotes ranging from £1500 to £6500 to have this built and some quotes didn’t even have the same spec!!
Had an 8x12 foot shed built several years ago. I first looked at the DIY kits at the big name stores. They cost $2,500 for the size I wanted with 24 inch on center framing and a 6 foot roof. I found a local builder who built a similar 8x12 foot shed with 16 inch on center framing and 7 foot with, plus put in the footings, for the same price. So glad I looked for a local builder. Saved a lot of money and frustration of building it myself, and got some business to a local business.
I worked for a Stable company building the framework/cladding etc & a 3.6m x 3.6m basic Mobile Field Shelter as they called it was £4500/5000! & that’s withiout a floor obviously. 45x75 frame plus trusses 120mm cladding, corrapol roof sheets & 18mm obs for the roof & round the inside of the stable. We (two people) could build one in 2 hours in the workshop from start to finish & it would take 6/8 hours to put up. Just thought I’d share the price & labour
I built a great workshop using SIP panels for the walls and roof, and uPVC windows and door. The exterior walls were finished with metal cladding, and the roof was a rubber roof covering. Not super cheap, but no more damp dank shed full of bugs and cobwebs. Plus probably added value to the house.
Why are you wasting nearly £400 on shiplap for a floor, when 8x4 sheets of osb/elliot ply would be much cheaper, and actually be flat, like a floor???
I built a shed over the winter for a small space where no pre-built shed would fit. Your videos were really helpful and The Carpenter's Daughter too. It's worked out really well. Bought the timber from the local Lavers timber yard. Found them very helpful and prices were pretty good. Material costs were around £1000 including shelving it out with 18mm ply - it was designed as a storage space, two doors with parliament hinges so the doors folded back against the shed. I am a reasonable DIYer and it was pretty straightforward to build. If I can do it, anyone who knows how to hold a hammer and a circular saw can do it 🙂
For me, it is a combination of build quality and custom sizing that swings it. My standard method is 2 x 4 studding frame (normally the cheapest way to buy timber) then 12mm ply inside and shiplap outside. Insulation (and wiring) between. Solid, warm, and cost effective. And you can hang stuff anywhere you want to.
Foundation- concrete with waterproof barrier, no question. Zero maintenance, any load.
Apex- that is where you put your windows. Best light, and no wall wasted.
I love your cost comparison videos and the check in on previous projects. Makes your builds that I watch feel much more genuine!
Great example and I wonder if there is a saving using OSB for floor and roof.
Built a 4.8m x 2.4m shed last year. Really pleased with the result and stronger than anything online. It was also about a £1000 cheaper ignoring labour. I'll always build rather than buy.
Cost comparison is one thing, but if you are competent at diy, you could build a much stronger shed that suits your needs.
This does all depend on cost and skills, but a well built diy shed would surely have the most value in self satisfaction and a sense of achievement.
I would love to build my own shed/workshop/man cave one day.
Thanks for the informative video👍👏
Plus you gain valuable experience building it. I'd love to build my own house one day, so starting with a shed workshop makes good sense.
Mate, that was bloody awesome! Confirms some niggling thoughts I had… I’ll draw up some plans and crack-on with a self-build. Cheers!
I haven't bought any timber for quite a while and then looked up some prices in order to make a garden gate including two posts to hang it from. Goodness me I got surprised! Timber is flipping expensive nowadays!
Prices escalated rapidly during Covid.
Excuses ranged from disruption in supply caused by lockdowns around the world, plus the increased demand from people extending homes and building sheds/cabins/home offices to cope with being forced to stay at home.
However, now that things are "back to normal" prices have NOT eased in the slightest. Building anything these days is almost prohibitively expensive.
I know when I built my Wife's Summer House, I used Ellis Timber and a Shed Company in North Walsham for Hardwood Ply, as it was when Ply was in short demand. I built an 8X8 shed with 2X4s and a mix of 18 mm and 12 mm ply for floor walls and Ceiling and 18 mm OSB for the roof. I think with a Door set from Travis Perkins and s bit of doubled Glazing from a Local Glazier, a used second hand UPVC window. I was in it for around £1300 from what I remember.
Wouldve thought osb/ply for floors and roof would be more cost effective than shiplap/t&g?
I was going to say the same thing.
But with that building method they are only really buying in two types of wood, quite possibly by the ship load.
And for the walls. A coat of paint covers it nicely. It's a shed, not a palace. Built several that way. My main 10' x 10' with and 8' roof peak is now 38 years in place. Had to replace the shingles and build a new door about 8 years ago but otherwise it's all good.
@webchimp I meant if you were going to self build. For pre fab it's probably a lot easier to ship to customers without 8x4 sheets too.
More cost effective yes, but that's not what this video is about, I'm trying to compare apples to apples as much as possible
i found self-build or buying a really difficult decision. I watched countless hours of your, Matts and Liams (and plenty of others) self build shed videos. I wavered between I can do this and I can't do it whilst looking at countless online retailers which never met exactly what I wanted. All along it seemed if I wanted to buy one it would involve some pretty hefty compromises which I could never be happy with. Right towards the end I found a local-ish company which offered a few sheds BUT had a large number of options/upgrades which meant I could pretty much get a shed which wasn't a compromise. Believe me it took half a lifetime to find them, but now, as I have just finished painting the outside, I am really pleased with my choice. It wasn't cheap BUT in fairness it offered me all that I wanted. If I had made it myself I would have used slightly thicker timber but it is more than good enough for my needs.
It does need insulating (which I will do myself) and I did make a 6x2 timber frame for it to sit on but the suppliers fitted the shed for free and it took them less than a day to erect. I don't feel the countless videos I watched wasted time at all, they introduced me to both an attitude that anything is possible and helped me understand the methods to working successfully in any DIY project which I thank you (and Matt and Liam) for.
I was fortunate to be in a position to be able to choose to buy rather than build and I am truly grateful for that. There are plenty of projects coming up to test my DIY skills and I thank you for your inspiration Keith.
great breakdown of the options..no bull, just clear details..well done
I had a colourbond clad, steel framed shed, 20sqm, built on a concrete slab. Insulated, 1 door, 3 windows, a whirlygig in the roof and 8 double powerpoints and 3 LED overhead lights. A 2 man team spent 2 days in 43 degree heat assembling it. They did a fantastic job. The quality is amazing. Total cost....one kidney, an arm plus a leg and my first born child. AUS$20,000 or aprox £10,000.
Good comparison there, one of the big issues for me with sheds was indoor/doorway height as I'm over 6 feet tall. I built my own in the end so i don't risk knocking myself out every time i go in the shed! I had a lot of fun doing it too, thanks to you, the restoration couple and a few others for the shed build videos they really helped.
Thanks Keith, good comparison. The floor and roof is definitely sheet material option. Only reason I can see for project shed option of ship lap is delivery. Sheet material is more difficult to deliver than lengths. 👍🏻
Nice video. I built my own five years ago. I spent quite a while researching what materials to use and where to buy them from. I tried to compare against shed companies, but they used such, in my opinion, cheap or inadequate materials. Without costing in my labour, materials came to about 3k. A prebuilt one was going to cost nearly three times more.
Awh, lovely to catch a glimpse of Dylan again. Great comparisons Keith, must've taken a while. you got me curious and I started looking here in Aus where timber prices are even more extortionate. Even at a rough glance I'd say you'd be better off building your own, but we'd use corrugated iron for the cladding as it works out much much cheaper and it's very much the norm here.
I've literally just finished putting together a BillyOh shed 16x8 feet. I chose this option as I'm in a Terrice and the prefabricated parts are max 4f so could be carried through the house. I paid £846 delivered. Quality wise it correlated to what you see online, but nothing a diyer couldn't put right with a saw and a claw hammer. Build wise it took about 8 hours to assemble. I didn't upgrade the floor (mistake), so ended up spending £90 on some 18mm OSB sheets which are perfectly solid. My biggest complaint was timing. From purchase to delivery was about 5 weeks. As for the felt.. let's just say my daughter's Wendy house has better quality felt. I doubt it'll last more than a few years.. if the cats don't shred it first! Overall I'm impressed for the cost, it seems pretty solid. The roof trusses on mine are 47 * 70 BTW.
Brilliant video. So much work has gone into this. Thank you Keith
I'd imagine the sawmill is sourcing local.... but timber merchant can import much cheaper.... but huge eye opener! Great video Keith.... its been amazing to watch your progress and confidence in woodworking DIY and video quality..... 👌🔥😎
A great video, i am amazed that the un-named diy store still gets away with charging so much and i thought saw mills were alot cheaper. any way i look forward to the video of your next shed build. keep up the great work.
I can relate to your comments about pre-fabricated sheds bought online. There is a manufacturer beginning with 'T' (think big cats) who I would give 0/10 for build quality and -1/10 for customer/after sales service. Steer well clear!
I thinking Mr Brown is secretly looking forward to building the shed.
I recently bought a 8x5 pent shiplap shed from tiger sheds. Best spent money ever. I don't classify myself so competent so that I can build a shed from scratch and this was a great option for me. It came intact, it's very strong and support was fantastic even when I had some issues with the lock. It really is down to the merchant
Hi Keith, Good tips and a great breakdown on prices. Can't wait to see your brothers shed build, as always a great video
I love your spreadsheet videos, so helpful. Will be building my own shed soon, so will compare prices of timber merchants.
Good luck!
Epic! Fantastic insight into the cost of building a shed. Thanks Keith!
I ended up building my own shed when i needed more storage space. I used salvaged wood when i had ample access to it and it saved me a fortune over the rubbish pre made stuff. I had to buy nails, screws, felt, hinges and plywood for roof and side walls but, the base, wall and roof frames didnt cost me a penny. It also allowed me to customise the shed layout internally for storing all my tools and bits. I would love to see the shed build as a video. As always it would be great to watch
A 3mx4m log cabin using 40mm interlocking walls from Tuin currently costs £2,650, including an 18mm floor and shingle roof. I've built 2 of these and they're fantastic. It will go up in a day (maybe 2 with a shingle roof). Not affiliated to Tuin but log cabins are great if you're building something of a decent size.
I bought a shed once and the top of my head literally touched the peak of the apex. I had to build a extension below it to raise it up higher but I had problems with it ever since and eventually demolished it. I spent more to build a new shed from scratch but the quality was far better. I used 60cmx30cm cls timbers, breathable membrane and exterior plywood. Most affordable sheds are nothing more than fences stapled together and premium sheds have the finest shiplap which costs a pretty penny. You could custom build something in between and be happy. Ultimately I think its down to your needs, budget and skill but whatever shed you get make sure you line it with breathable membrane to keep water and bugs out
Great! I will enjoy watching the upcoming shed building video or series. 👍
I built a shed to fit a footprint that an old shed stood on. Materials were ~£1000 but for 12' x 24' that was cheaper than buying one. I know it can easily handle me jumping up and down on the roof and there's something about seeing something you personally designed and built showing up on Google Earth.
Many storms later, its not showing any sign of failure, it'll probably outlive me. But those Google Earth images get me every time.
Starting a shed build for a neighbor next week so I’ve just been through all this ordering and planning. A lot too it but projects like this run a lot smoother if take some extra time planning. Best of luck with the build and thanks for the video 👍🏼
Gobsmacked at the cost comparisons you outlined for this shed build.😮
This was a great format Keith. Really enjoyed the details and bits of advice throughout. Top work
Thank you
Can't wait for the shed build series @@RagnBoneBrown. Your brother is very lucky as he'll have a great shed (with lifetime warranty too 😂)
This was very interesting. I have found out the hard way that buying lumber from DIY stores is not the way to go....
Thumbs up for some quality cat footage 👌
Good video. Should pull together the cost of selecting the cheapest product options across the various sources too as I know I don't typically for most of my shopping always buy it all from same location. Likewise would be good to see the table including the options for swapping out OSB etc
Ive got a 2 car garage ive been using as my shop since my wife and i bought the house 3 years ago. But we ended up building the dog pen off the side door of it, so the dogs are in the garage too so ive been considering building a seperate shop in the backyard so i can keep it cleaner, more moisture resistant because i don't have to keep the door open so they can go in and out, and less bugs to deal with. This came in handy. Love these cost comparison videos
An other very interesting project.
Just a suggestion for you to consider I have built two sheds and have used feather edge boards purchased from a fencing timber suppliers, use 10 boards per metre of coverage. I used 18mm OSB 3 fpr the floor and this has worked out great for my workshop which has a very heavy radial arm saw with a 14" dia blade with no distortion evident.
Metal profile roof sheets are also a good choice and will be a better option than roofing sheet, they cover 1metre wide generally and are 0.7mm thick with a cost of around £25 per sheet.
I myself built a shed using fencing panels. While not watertight. is works pretty well as a cheap garden shed.
Same here 12x8, horizontal featheredge boards with 50mm x 50mm frame all self designed and built and with roofing membrane between featheredge and frame. Keeps all wet out and will do so even if the featheredge warps , windproof too, so nice and calm and cosy even in stormy weather. Floor is 50x100 joists and 18mm osb, good and strong to take weight of two motorcycles. Total build cost was somewhere between £1000 - £1100 last year.
Currently in the process of pricing up myself and looks like I’ll build my own shed 😊
Great comparison video, and thanks for sharing 👍 😊
Thanks Keith, interesting to see a detailed and realistic comparison of the different options, it's always great to see one of your famous colour coded spreadsheets anyway ! It's quite shocking how much more all the options are than they would have been just a few short years ago and the prices are staying stubbornly high, although some timber prices have started to ease slightly, particularly sheet goods !
I would always chose to build a shed myself from preference, but I've built a number of timber buildings now so feel confident in my ability to do so. I'm disappointed to have to let my "kids" buy a ready made as I know what the quality will be like, but they've all moved away and I can't afford the time to build one for them sadly. I'm hoping to be retired by time they have a need for a Wendy house so maybe I can help them then.
It's good of your brother to consider your workload, but from a selfish viewpoint I'd love to see you build another shed so hope you will build it and share it with us !
Loved the video Keith. I’d find it really interesting to see the price breakdown of what you would recommend for the same project - OSB or plywood sheets for the roof etc. keep up the good work!
Great comparison Keith. Like you say, the fact that Project Timber use shiplap to clad the roof seems odd. Seems odd to me they use the same to clad to floor too! Clearly buying it at a discount in volume, so using it wherever they can, even if it’s not the ideal material.
look forward to seeing the build.
👍👍👍. Thank you Keith for taking the time and effort to make an excellent informative video.
Glad you enjoyed it
Very thorough as always 👍
Brilliant Keith thanks very good advice I'll take all on board I'm just a diyer but confident enough to be able to build one with your advice many thanks
Very interesting video. Thanks for sharing.
Brilliant info. Thank you.
I did the same maths recently for my own shed build and came to the same conclusion! Though I'll be using OSB for the roof and floor.
Great video, premade sheds also overlook the situation I've been in twice where I have a tiny corner in which to put a shed, but ofc nobody will make me a weirdly sized shed that will fit the gap I have perfectly
Look forward to the shed build then!! Good video
I've been planning a shed for months. God knows how many times I've watched your shed building vids lol. In the end, I've bought a cheap metal one, 10ft by 8ft, that I've yet to construct, based on cost, £304. This comes with the caveat of height (and other things of course). These things are for short people, or for not walking around in. So I have to still build a 2x10 height floor frame and place the shed on top of that, hanging 2x4 floor joists at the bottom of the 2x10, giving a height increase of about 5 inches. This will induce a step when getting into the shed. You decide whether this solution is worth the saving. I'm not done buying the materials yet, but I'm going to put total cost at around £600.
Great video hopefully you make a video on making the shed I like your content and build style it's very unique.
Great video Keith love a good spreadsheet!
great analysis. thank you sir.
I was in a similar space with our new house. Ended up going to Brierley hill sheds and paying the delivery fee and I'm pretty sure I wouldnt have built as good a shed for anywhere near the money!
(not affiliated in any way, but I have bought a super cheap shed in the past and didnt like it... so sharing the love for this company that do decent prices for good build quality)
I've just built a large out house and used 2by4 from a company called diy building supplies, cost me £360 for 37 4.8m lengths. Did a 4.3m by 6.1m with 760mm on center for walls and 600mm for roof. To accommodate the free ply wood I got 😅
Great information, as always.
Great break down there Keith, I kniow you were comparing like for like as far as possible but there are more options to consider which I am confident would reduce your materials and costs as well as extend teh life of the shed.. A few years ago I build at similar sized shed and was bothered about the tools etc in the shed, a neighbour had his shed broken into and the theives pulled the roof off to get in! To this end I invested in a "rhino steel roof" which I could choose a clolour ans insulated to stop condensation (life span 50 years) the entire roof was about 2/3rds the cost of the timber and felt etc required to complete the job, and to this day looks good.
Food for thought for your brother.
Graham
Thanks Graham
A brilliant analysis
A really useful video, Keith. I really need to find a local timber merchant.
Great video. Thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
Good comparison.
Nice video, thanks.
I agree it pays to shop around. I have been asked to build a number of furniture projects, given a photo from the likes of IKEA. I use as much second hand for inside frame work where I can, and the show stuff from a Merchant. I draw rough plans to get material costs and then add a very modest fixed labour rate. ( I do this as a hobby). Of course it always comes in more than the Shop price and the potential customer 'Baulks'. I remind them that mine is not mass produced. Custom size, and of quality build ( I think so 😉 and no complaints so far). A couple have gone away and a few said yes, go for it. It's not my bread and butter, so no problem, but it annoyers me that people want quality for the price they could get from an Op shop second hand. I hope your brother recognises that.
God bless your brother , we get more content and I was looking at the same thing 👍
Let’s be brutally honest here, yes I enjoyed your video, as I always do.
Great video! You mentioned the availability of tools as one factor to consider. Would you like to make a video about that? like which three main tools to acquire to get started doing this kind of projects. Maybe like one to cut, one to drill and one to sand? something like that
Thanks Pablo! I may do something along those lines 👍
I was going to do a video on build Vs buy, but haven't finished my workshop build yet.
If you do build the shed, please document the whole process! Ive watched your original series but have just bought a house and cannot find a shed to suit me. Having seen this i definitely want to build my own shed and am confident with most construction but have some concerns about the planning stage!
Great.. as usual. Thank u
With how expensive timber is becoming, how close are we getting to having a 'shed' build out of bricks and mortar being close or cheaper than a timber one? I'd like to know the numbers for that. And factor in that it will never rot etc. Assuming you are DIY'ing it, so material costs only.
Looking forward to the build…..
Interesting, especially the comparison costs….scary how they differ.
Hope we get to watch your brother and you build that shed.
Yes!
@@RagnBoneBrownThis is the comment I was looking for!! Your 2nd shed build was the first video I watched on your channel and I've been addicted ever since! Can't wait for shed number 3 👍🏼
I'm looking forward to the build video; slightly less so in the unlikely event that you order pre-fab
I suspect the wood in the prefab will be worse quality too, more knots, low density parts, warped etc. Good video.
Be interesting to get the project timber shed and see what how you would go aboug fixing the sloppy bits when assembling
Nice idea
Thanks for the break down.
Would it make any sense to take the kit, and work off that, instead of starting from scratch?
Would you be able to fix the mistakes/flaws while minimizing work time?
Assuming the materials are acceptable.
I've just ordered a 20x10 shed with 22m cladding and 25mm flooring for a cost of £2900 and that includes delivery and installation.
I would think the lack of sheet goods with the online shed relate to shipping costs. Like everything, and as you said, so much of this comes down to the cost of materials in your area and your experience (or comfort in your abilities); coupled with time (as in do you have it - or is the spouse going to be peeved that the week you took off work is going to be spent on this project and not a visit to the in-laws).
Excellent breakdown, Keith! Thanks! 😃
And, well, looking forward to the build!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Thanks, you too!
Always debating this
Always take into account the total cost of ownership. How often will you need to perform maintenance activities such as replacing cheap tongue and groove, low quality tar paper etc. often the buy cost will be lower, but without substantial rework, the shed will last for far less time.
Good video, it kills me when I order short and have to go to that DIY store 😂
I'm suprised at the use of shiplap for the roof and floor for the pre-fab. If they are getting that cheaper than sheet material it's not going to be good quality is it?
Probably not, no, but it might also be because it's easier to package and send than sheet materials
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HI Keith i tried this a year or two ago did exactly what you have done - Try Adventures in Wood From Boston Lincs -- The Built my shed put it up on my concrete base - cheaper that i could buy just the timber for . It you want some snaps let me know
New shed build and a return of the pineapple shorts in this vid. What more could you ask for? :D I have to disagree slightly on your view on timber thickness/strength though. If you compare the size of house roofs and what they need to carry in weight pr. m2 vs a shed. I believe that you could get by with quite flimsy stuff. But that may not be very fun to work with. Anyway, cool vid. Looking forward to your brother's shed build. Cheers.
Thanks! Yes I agree, it's not about strength, more about awkwardness to work with smaller timbers 👌
Before you give up on sawmills bear in mind they are generally focussed on trades so their cash prices are often high.
Setting up a trade account or even just a cash account is a doddle and can save you a small fortune. Many will do free local delivery on account orders too.
Both the timber merchant and sawmill refuse to set up a trade account for me. And most people watching my channel aren't trade