flying through fractals using a 90s camcorder
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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025
- This weird artifact from the sharpening that old camcorders apply to video creates a unique flying experience.
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Fun fact: Video feedback was used extencively during the creation of Doctor Who intros in the 60s.
That’s awesome!
That *is* awesome!
That is *_very_* awesome!
i KNEW id seen those patterns before :DDD
The effect was called Howlaround. You can create patterns in the shape of people, text or objects by introducing a cardboard cutout of them between the camera and the monitor.
When I read ""flying through" I did not expect to be able to control it like that.
Very cool.
@@cola98765 I agree! It really looks and feels like you're flying through a landscape! It reminds me of the vector arcade games, like Starglider
No, no, it's very entertaining
I was about to write the same thing!
@@suchclevername me too 😂
Same!
my thoughts exactly
One of, if not the most entertaining games.
I'm glad youtube recommends smaller channels so I can see silly, fascinating, and super cool videos like this that should be in the millions.
And give gleams of what RUclips is all about. My favourite feature/change IMO lately
"Man, this edible ain't shi-"
i swear you're everywhere
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why does my reply only show up when i look at newest comments
@@aiexzs ...because it's a bot putting in work
@@abundantharmony i don't think so lol there's no motive and i think i've seen them reply before
I really thought you were just going to show the infinity mirrors effect. I am so amazed that I have never seen this.
Weird Knowledge increased!
I'm an infinitely complex man. I see "fractals," I click.
LOL. good one. XD
and then i click on everything that opens from that... and so on
@@dominictarrsailing
Great fleas have little fleas upon their backs to bite 'em,
And little fleas have lesser fleas, and so ad infinitum.
And the great fleas themselves, in turn, have greater fleas to go on;
While these again have greater still, and greater still, and so on.
I see fractals I made when I see fractals I made when I see fractals I made when I see fra...
I kind of expected you to say the exact same thing again in the replies.
1:04 thats me! :D
And yes, I'll test it with my VHS-C Panasonic camcorder and Sony MiniDV camcorder!
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Awesome! I’m excited to see if it works for you!
@@DeclanDoesCameraThings I tried it out with two of my camcorders, and after fiddling around for nearly 20 minutes, I still couldn't get it to happen. I guess they don't have sharpening since one is a high end MiniDV camcorder, and the other is an older VHS-C camcorder that probably doesn't have sharpening built in. 🫤
@@DeclanDoesCameraThings Well this video blew up, and has an incredibly high like-to-view ratio of around 1:6!
@ I know!! It’s insane! I guess putting ai Minecraft in the title must have enticed people to click!
@@DeclanDoesCameraThings Probably, but then most people stayed for the content!
The hidden video game inside a camcorder, very cool!
Emergent video-game!
I can't believe he said, "It's Fractalin' time." and then Fractaled everywhere.
When you said you would be able to see stuff and fly through it, I was expecting like a really staticy, noisy image that had ripples going through it. The result is something else entirely! It almost looks like something out of a demoscene competition! Absolutely wild
If you put this through a VHS-era color processor your world is gonna get totally expanded. Sharpeners and other vhs color correction devices are also insanely fun
Archer video enhancer circuits are every analog video artist best friend
That’s crazy it’s like it’s rendering a 3D environment
Mind blown. I had no idea the effect was going to be so cool! I really feel like it needs to be a channel intro set to some trippy music now.
Also, where is your shirt from?
Fun fact, it was used in the doctor who intros in the 60s.
Also idk it was a gift but I love it 😂
NEVER MIND I FOUND IT
www.amazon.com/Photography-Design-Photographer-Instructors-T-Shirt/dp/B09BVVLX43
I hope RUclips lets this Amazon link through…
I knew you could make it do the feedback loop but that’s crazy how you can dial it in to do that. It really is almost like a flight simulator 😂
Okay dude, massive respect! Keep your content real like this. Don’t force creation if it doesn’t come on its own. Very unique, genuinely interesting content.
Thanks, that means so much!
4:44 actually that was very cool and now i need to dig up my own camcorder to try this out myself
That's a super lush effect. It's that fractal zoom where there's always more no matter how far you go into the image. Like closed eye mushroom visuals too.
neural feedback loop
I used to do this all the time in the 80's. I never thought to take it to this level. This is wild.
That was awesome! Here’s another tip from a 90’s guy: some of those Sonys had a stencil feature. It takes a snapshot from the camera and creates a monochrome overlay on the camera image. Point the camera with the live feed at the monitor with the stencil on, and prepare to be amazed.
It’s cute seeing younger people re-discover the fun things we used to do with tech.
This is also possible in gmod by creating a Light controlled by a Camera, and pointing the camera at the picture created by the lightbulb! Tons of fun 💛
Make a tutorial I can't comprehend
@@smallcheesebread6531 I've thrown this together hastily, hope it's clear enough. I wasn't able to achieve the result like in the video above, but I'm sure it's possible with enough fiddling.
ruclips.net/video/r3Nq5V4LTYM/видео.html
whats the underlying princeple
@ I think these are called Iterated Function System. Wikipedia article for it has nice illustrations
@@vladyslavsmirnov1875 i ll look into it ty
I feel so humbled at how little I was expecting, and how much you delivered.
I'm 40 now. When I was your age, my friends and I would make funny short films using that exact Sony Handicam. This was before RUclips so we never became famous. But I just wanted to point out that I loved that camera (still do, I still have it) and I love it that you taught me something new with it 20 years later.
This is what k-holing feels like 3:11 "tunnel of the abyss" you said it perfectly lol
Interesting. Is this a common experience with ketamine then?
As someone who has tried it myself a few times I've also seemingly experienced a few things I can describe as "digital-artifact-like" like feedback tunnels and sensory datamoshing.
@@ZarHakkar sensory data moshing, love it. And in a sense it's an accurate description; you're changing the way your brain processes information analogous to the way a video processor interprets the data in the video file, and how that is altered by various data moshing techniques. The data entering you're brain from your senses is being moshed! Still haven't done K but the analogy extends to mind altering substances in general.
k-holed many times, its nothing like this
@@c64116ur brain must work differently than everyone else huh buddy? You a little special huh
uhhh... not really... k-holing is just having a sudden collapse in reality, and you just "come to" doing something else... it's not actually something you "see"... >_>
Dude. As someone who played with VHS feedback, this is way cooler. Thanks
Love seeing small channels just doing what they want to do. This was really interesting and fun to watch!
I used to play with this in my youth. I even recorded some with BG music like Pearl Jam's Black lol. You can achieve varied effects with a more stable camera, like using tripod, and adding small color objects on the edge of the screens, that sometimes repeat on the fractal landscapes. Very trippy
That was beautiful and awesome. Literal feeling of awe in my chest. Thank you.
Also, I feel like I'm on RUclips before it was bought by Google. The golden days
Thank you for finally answering the question I've had in my head since I was a child.
Oh dude. Dude, this is exactly what I always see when I close my eyes and press my palms into them. After a moments pause I start flying through shapes and landscapes just like that. Woah. I love it. Thanks for posting this, I had no idea.
Yeah, and it's also colorful! lol
I understand the initial feedback, but not what happens afterwards. That is amazing.
I'm not 100% sure but I think what's happening is that the sharpening adds a 'border' to any border it detects. At 5:13 you can see it happen pretty clearly where 1 single line gets some extra parallel lines next to it and that recursively happens
@@duon44 YES FINALLY SOMEONE GETS IT!!
Oh my god Jesus that is amazing. As a guy who really likes technology in general and had used and want a camcorder something like that have never seen anything like this before
It would be wild to realize that Aliens are not from outer space but rather inner space. It would be even more wild to find life in one of these fractal dimensions.
this is exactly the kind of niche tech stuff i'm looking for, thank you so much
can't believe this recording of the worlds first video game exists!
Surprisingly 3D looking. I've seen cool feedback effects but this is really specific and interesting.
Ok I was expecting to just see the miror effect by a "kid" who is discovering this tech that I already knew long time ago, but it was totally unexpected. Sir, thank you ! You allowed me to have a dose of humility and I have to aknowlegde my arrogance. Much respect to you and keep on doing those very authentic videos (simple is the best- not over edited, not screaming, not a cut every half second and so on)
I'm very impressed by what I saw. I'm familiar with the Camera-TV recursion effect. But I never thought that repeating and overlaying an image with a delay under certain circumstances could create the appearance of a fractal, with control of the direction of the “flight”!
all my years of doing this and I never knew you could do this budget flight simulator mars landing game, this is shocking
WOAH this is cool as hell! I could seriously watch it for hours without getting bored
I never expected to see a in real life fractal AND be able to navigate trough it, heck, I didn't even know it was possible to change the direction of the fractal zoom, incredible video
This is super cool! I'd love a more in-depth understanding of how this works
Agreed I think I have an idea but I would also love a better break down.
@@patrickjacobson3173 I might need to do more videos than I thought😅
@@DeclanDoesCameraThings I'd be very excited to learn more about analog cameras as a photographer who shoots on DSLR. Looking forward to future videos!
Hours upon hours of fun with our VHS-C and Video 8 camcorders back in the mid Eighties. The CRT TV screens we had also gave richer textures to the “landscape”, making it look even more like flying fractals.
I just know my father would be so interested in what you're showing here. It's definitely fractals, right?
Also I gotta say, videos like these are the soul of RUclips. Whether you mean to or not, you're keeping the "real" RUclips alive by not just trying to be a content machine. Maybe you know Posy, who makes very down to earth and detailed videos on interesting or obscure things with technology.
Yes I know posy, I also think he makes awesome content! Thank you for this comment, ones like these make my day!
camera feedback has such a great flavor
its really cool
Dude, this is one of the most interesting things I've ever seen!
This is the epitome of entertaining!
I'm so curious about how this works, I've never seen anything like this before. Getting this just from pointing a camera at a TV with inage sharpening is so bizzare. I wish I could try this now.
Wow, that's actually looks cool. Awesome stuff.
This is the coolest thing I've seen in a while and really made my day
Subscribed, thanks for uploading
discovering this while on a 3 day DXM/adderall binge was one of the most exciting days i had during my highschsool days... 😂
yeah, i spent a few hours messing with then as well. and felt the need to message my friends "omg guys you will never guyss what i just did"
and then spend the next hour telling them how i got sucked inside of the tv, and was jumping across digital fractal islands. XD
great video! so much nostalgia.. lol :3c
"messaged" them, did ya? The good old days, way back when huh? Right
@@Magknot707 are you ok? you seem confused.
@@mikayla_collie Not confused. Just being a negative cynical dickhead - very unnecessarily, even
@@Magknot707 yeah, good choice. I'd stop talking if I were you, too. 🤦♀
I thought I was the only one that collected old cameras/camcorders. Glad to see I’m not alone :)
OH WOW that's really cool. I was experimenting with that a lot but could never get the thing to actually do that, although I was using a CRT tv with some broken ass cable, so it messed up the signal, but it looked cool. I will definitely try it again. Thanks for showing it!
Yea! I found that the fractals don’t have much time to flatten out with a crt, because the extreme reaction speed of crt causes the terrain to fly MUCH faster
Makes sense... I do have a few old Sony cameras at home so I'm 100% gonna try that out, I'll even maybe film and post it, should be a fun experiment!
Dude I was seconds away from clicking away think “dude why are you showing me the tv doubled up a bunch of times”. Did not expect where that ended up. Very cool!
Reminds me of one of my first L trips when I was in my teens (back in the early 00’s) we were watching old art house films and weird animated stuff on vhs on a crt tv and one of them kinda got wonky and glitchy (sorta like this!) and we were all wayyyy too high to fix it and then just got transfixed by the distorted images on the screen and I swear we didn’t talk or anything for the entirety of the tape and it was a truly magical experience lol far better than the actual art house tapes tbh haha kinda sucks that with the advent of digital media the younger generations will likely never have an experience like that. There’s just something about vhs on a crt tv that adds warmth and texture to your entire experience, even when you’re not on psychedelics lol
I knew exactly what this was the moment I saw the title. Figured this out myself accidentally like 20 years ago messing with my camcorder and tv. Blew my mind. Remember excitedly showing all my friends a bunch over the next week or two
0:37 Hey, wait a minute! It's not spelled I-C-U-P at all! >:O
I love how each generation rediscovers the same thing through iterations of technologies
The trillions of worms inside of your camera.
This rules! Thank you for sharing... I grew up in the 90s and I'm surprised I've never come across this before.
Please show more uncut footage - right when the terrain start you cut just before this - I want to see the transition in, and several minutes+ of streaming just the flight without cuts! Cool technique thanks for showing.
Ok, I’m getting more people asking for this, so I just might.
@@DeclanDoesCameraThings The cut to the terrain startled me from how the audio is edited, I couldn't believe I missed it! Seeing the full transition would be sweet.
@ I wonder if I can get something out by Wednesday 🤔
@@DeclanDoesCameraThings yeah the editing makes me fully doubt this is real.
@@DeclanDoesCameraThingsI’m subbing because I want to see how this is done because I own one of these.
As someone who grew up in the '90s, I was always fascinated with the results of pointing a self-referential camcorder at a TV, and later with webcams pointed at monitors... Never in my life have I quite seen results that look like this! It also brings to mind the book titled I AM A STRANGE LOOP, which goes in the great detail of the similarities between feedback loops and human perception
it's fractally
This is just amazing, thank you for putting out this lovely video. It's such a beautiful and quirky interaction!
3:56 WHATS THIS SONG
It’s called Emperor’s Maneuver, by the United States marine band. If you look up United States marine band in the RUclips audio library, you can see all of their music. You can also find it just on RUclips.
one of my most favourite songs to hear in videos (also the little "and were off to the races" before playing that song is prrtty funny)@@DeclanDoesCameraThings
i would have done this for hours if i had known about it when i was 18 and experimenting with exploring alternate states of consciousness
It's really giving Doctor Who howlaround vibes, imo. I've also had fun with camera feedback in the past, but this is a whole new level of cool! Great video, man.
The way this video was produced feels so 2015 and I love it
dude that's SO COOL, like getting the picture of how this world works you wouldn't expect something so cool to just pop out in this way, and IT DID
This isn’t reminiscent of fractals, that is a fractal period. Really cool stuff.
The math behind this must be insanely cool.
This was insanely cooler than I thought it would be
I've created some basic fractals with camera feedback loops before- but wow, you took this to a whole new level!
Surely different camera / display combinations can create unique patterns, but it’s difficult to say exactly what differences could result. Now I want to experiment with this. Thanks for the inspiration!
I can't believe none of us ever realised we could do this when we were younger!! What!
We'd all play with the camcorders with the infinite tunnel mirrors for a few minutes until getting bored, but this is genuinely mesmerising
It has such a real sensation of 3D space as well as motion!
Wow, that's a gold mine for visual / video art!
I grew up in the 80's/90's and I've never seen this before. That was cool! I knew about the sort of "infinity mirror" effect pointing the camera at the TV with a live feed, but that was it.
IT IS the most entretaining video to watch, wtf!? thats an awesome analogic effect
I had no idea you can get something like this when zooming in. I could never have imagined this. This is amazing
This is actually way cooler than I thought this would be. This is awesome.
eeeewwww these patterns give me shivers 😭😭😭
oh my gosh, I've been trying to figure out how this specific feedback effect works (specifically the worm like structures it seems to generate) for ages! It surprises me it's something as simple as sharpening 😅Thanks a lot, it's great to see more videos documenting feedback techniques, there aren't nearly enough out there atm!
We used this technique for years for making visuals at rave parties we would pass the signal back into a video FX unit and get even better fractals and yes they are actually fractals, it is great fun to do, very trippy indeed.
Thanks for giving me something new and awesome to obsess over!! So cool!!!
This video just restored my faith in RUclips, and in humanity…I hope it gets more views, and more subscribers for the channel
This is so cool
I always love unexpected explorations into algorithms like this
This feels like reality
This is actually one of the coolest things I've ever seen
As the Gen X rep assigned to this video's comment section, I have to say it's pretty damn neat to see this emerge again within a new generation to discover and be inspired to do cool shit with. Thanks for the nostalgia and have fun!
omg, that's like FREE 3D Graphics
I thought you were just showing video feedback until you mentioned the sharpening effect. This was really cool! I stumbled onto the whole video feedback art community on RUclips last year and the kind of rigs people have built out of wood and multiple screens are so cool! Highly recommend checking some of those out if you haven't already.
Nice retro aesthetic! I remember that affect. You have got it really nicely controlled must try with me old cam corder, sweet!
Random RUclips suggestion sends me back to my filmmaking teens! Awesome.
I am speechless. This is much cooler than I could think
When I "discovered" it for myself in the nineties, I was also totally thrilled. It's nice to see that the fascination is still alive.
"And we are off to the races" i love this haha
My uncle Martin was the producer of Dr Who and in the 60's they used this exact technique (video feedback) to produce the title sequence. The Dalek voice used a similar technique (ring modulator) for their voices and this gave them the initial idea for video feedback.
Nice find! I used to do this for hours as a kid with my RCA camcorder and a C64 monitor.
Fractals are such beautiful constructions... I would have spent hours doing this if I knew it existed too!
This takes me back to many years ago when I would sit in front of the TV in the living room with my parents camcorder doing exactly the same thing for.. well, literally minutes of entertainment!!
Unironically one of the most interesting things I've seen from analog tech. Analog horror about to hit different now.
Hell yeah! I keep two TRV65s hanging around to shoot home movies on a regular basis! There's one at my feet right now (amongst the mess under my desk)