There is a book written in the 2nd century called 'The Life of Appolonius' that detailed the interactions between India and Africa. The people of that time were aware of each other, traded, shared ideas/philosophy and had many other relations.
During that time period goods are known to have been traded all across eurasia and africa. The romans and the chinese were well aware of eachother’s civilizations.
@@HOPROPHETA I looked for an early historical source for that and couldn't find any. If anyone has any please share. I think that I heard that statement from Runoko Rashidi, or Dr. Ben.
Nice video! I think people get confused because (from what we know so far) the original out of Africa migration happened over 50,000 years ago so many Indians still have those features, it's not uncommon to see people with different hair textures and skin tones ect. That doesn't necessarily mean that it was African influence since civilizations didn't develop till much later. Even if Buddha had curly hair it doesn't mean he is African, it could just be that he retained those features from the original out of Africa migration. There is evidence of African influence in India though. The earliest example I know of is from the Indus River Valley where they found domestication of pearl millets which originated in Africa and were brought by African traders. This is huge because I can't imagine India without millets.
First, what we're looking at here is not the Buddha, but statues of the Buddha; this should really be borne in mind. Statues of the Buddha are a very late development in Buddhist art--centuries after the Buddha's death. Originally, he was represented symbolically with a dharma-wheel, an empty throne, a bodhi tree, etc. So it is safe to say that no sculptor, nor even any of the sculptor's grandparents, was an eyewitness of what the Buddha looked like. The very first statues, the Gandharan statues with wavy hair you referred to, came from the Gandhari region, far up in the northwest of India. The statues were produced by Greek invaders who settled there after Alexander conquered the area. Anyway, they had no idea what Buddha looked like, and were interested mostly in reproducing their own images--some of the first statues not only had straight-to-wavy hair, the Buddha was also depicted with a mustache and wearing Greco-Roman togas. The absolute earliest examples of ancient Buddhist, with the Buddha represented symbolically, as I said above, did, however, represent certain Indian tribal groups of the time who followed the Buddha. Some of these groups are depicted with the same short-cropped, pepper corn hairstyle and hair texture we see as being "African" on the Buddha. Also, that text that whatever author Home Team quoted citing from the Digha Nikaya is wholly fantasy, not historical. The Digha text is about "the 32 marks of a great man," an old teaching in India (though of uncertain origin) about certain "auspicious" congenital physical characteristics of a man born to greatness. In addition to the hair-thing, the marks include a tongue long enough to wipe one's own face from ear-to-ear, forehead to chin; arms that hang down to one's knees, distended earlobes, etc. If anything, any hair description wouldn't show his Africanness, it would show him to be a freak of nature. Do not look to this source for guidance. The truth is these statues tell us more about what the people who produced them thought about themselves than what they knew about the Buddha. Peace. (If I may add my own two cents, people should not equate Black with African. First of all, there is no static set of phenotypical characteristics which can be said to define either of those terms. But, even allowing what common people generally think of when they think "Black," not all of these "Blacks" have an origin in Africa (other than saying we all do, including Whites, which is a pretty useless statement), just as many who are indigenous to Africa, have never left it, aren't what we would typically think of as "Black." The Whiteman taught us that thick lips, wide noses, and wooly hair are African, and exclusively African, characteristics. It's not true. It just isn't. And not all Africans have them, either--as we learn from Home Team's videos.)
Your response is insightful. I'm Nigerian. Some Nigerians are so fair skinned that their veins are transparent. Fulanis have straight noses. Stereotypes is akin to racial profiling and obfuscates the truth.
@@lolasobande8663 apparently to the Afrocentric no one has achieved anything on their own merits without African intervention and no one comes from their own unique race or ethnicity and culture without originating directly from Africans and somehow this isn’t a supremacist ideology ?
@@lolasobande8663 interesting you say all that considering the reasoning for people believing Buddha was African is stereotypical sub-Saharan African physical traits LOL.. and when these claims can be debunked by those that are not ignorant by using real evidence and common sense it conveniently becomes them being racist
I appreciate and love this channel so much thanks for the work u do be blessed and keep informing and educating us. I've learned alot since i started watching. 👁
Yes I did see the straight wavy hair of Buddha before. However I do think the other images of buddha reflected the people in those areas. So yes those curly hair represented curly hair as we see in South East Asian. Whats also important to remember its not just the curly hair type but large nose and large lips. These buddhas were representative of the people in those environments.
Exactly, universalizing religions try to make their religion fit within local cultural contexts. Otherwise a religion would be viewed as foreign and much less likely to be adopted by the local populace.
@@mzple Dude, Don't u guys anything in ur sub saharan region?? Why do u always larp on other civilizations?. Lord Buddha was Indian and son of the great Indian Hindu King shuddhodhana. Stop appropriating us..
@@rintin287 You sound highly uneducated. People who are phenotypically called black are always lumped together if its in Africa, Asia or the Americas. We fully understand that they may be distant relatives or not even related at all, however they are always lumped with the terminology Black. So get over yourself, everything black isn't in Africa.
Bruv I love your objectivity. You never disappoint, my brother keep it up. Their is no place for race superiority only to acknowledge our place in the world as peoples from all walks of life.
@@Saber23 tbh I've seen his view sometimes lean that way . But we are all humans . We can all fall prey to our biases. So maybe, but you have to look at the good . Rather than the bad. Because in this case the good fare exceeds the bad .
@@abusawdan9986 oh yes I agree akhi we all have biases just wanted to make sure you acknowledged that and weren’t just jumping on a bandwagon saying that this channel was always 100% objective but yes I agree the good this man puts out far outweighs the bad 🙏❤️
@@Saber23 anta Muslim? And yes , the reason why I even commented that was because I thought he would run with the narrative. But he didn't. He just put out all sources of facts ,and that's what I like about his work . He might have his opinions, but he knows how to do scholastic work.
I am a Hindu myself and we honor Buddha as a great philosopher, in old Hindu depictions in Vaishnava temples, we have him as pointed noses, sleepy/half-awake eyes or large almond shaped eyes and snailish/coiled or flowy hair with a dim smile, like Hindu depictions of sages/ascetics. In Buddhist depictions, I have seen the same except features specific to the Buddhist populace, like in a Tibetan monastery, I saw a Buddha with Chinese features like small nose, small round fair faces. In an Indian Buddhist monastery, we see Hindu features characteristic of Indians, large eyes half closed, fair/golden skin, high nose bridge and similar hairstyle, the Topknot. Hindu and Chinese males traditional hairstyle is a Topknot or bun, with gold ornaments and flowers adorning hair as per the Hindu philosophy of Shringara( Hindus didn't wear veils before contact with Abrahamic cultures). We Hindus generally don't ponder on such characteristics, because we feel it's similar to ours like you said about Sri Lankan Buddhists, except the coiled hair. My family says, that since Buddha meditated for so long, snails attached themselves to his hair in the rain and it became the hairstyle later on, when he got enlightenment( since he couldn't care less about the snails). My Buddhist friend says that it is because the snails sacrificed themselves to save him from the scorching sun. About the African origin, I am skeptical man. The Buddha originally came from lower Nepal or upper central India, the stronghold of Aryans and its also said that he was fair. Coming from a hilly terrain, it is unlikely. His features would be similar to present day Nepalis or Northern pahadi Hindus.
You misunderstand Indian genetics. Nepal was never an “aryan stronghold” if you mean Aryan the fucked up race thing whites believe. Indo Europeans were just one small part of the people who made up India, so most people in Nepal would’ve either looked dark skinned aborigines like other Indo aryan and Dravidian Indians, or they would looked Tibeto-Burmese. Buddha would not have looked fair or golden haired like you stated
Very interesting and it does have merit. Consider this from another comment ---- Thabang Malete To understand this topic, you really need to understand Kush , not from a mainstream point of view, but dig deeper. We are told is a study called Kusha Dwipa The Kushites of Asia , Another Book Called Wonderful Ethiopians also gives clarity to the presence of Kushite peoples in Asia. From a mythological perspective as well, the Kushites find mention in the ancient Indian texts. The Puranas say that the Kushites were the descendants of King Kusha-nabha who ruled in the Satya Yuga (Golden Age)Later, the Kushites rallied around Kusha, the son of Rama, and the Kashi tribe played a significant role in Ayodhya, the capital of Rama’s kingdom.
First depiction of idol in the sub continent is statue of Buddha. where we can see alot of Hindu gods inspired from it. But the depiction of Buddha is not of native origins. But it was inspired or of Greek origin.
I would not be surprised if he had curly hair..I'm an Asian Buddhist and we are taught to respect indian or asiatic black because even I as an Asian Buddhist know he was not Asian but that he was from the middle East area touching africa. Nepal and India
@@themongol1263 they get their Information from black propaganda channels on RUclips. It's pretty much were the education of black Americans starts and ends
Claiming that Buddha was "one of us" seems to be a general nationalist fantasy. Ukrainian nationalists also declare that Buddha was a Ukrainian, based on the Slavic root "bud" being in his name.
I think this kind of extreme rewriting of history so that My Group is the origin of everything, which you see in Hoteps and in Hindu nationalists ("Isaac Newton stole his ideas from the Vedas") and other people, is a result of extreme, almost pathological lack of self-esteem.
" nationalism" is not a black thing! #2 seriously, the notion that every land started with BLACK people is logical. SO UKRAININAS could be right, but who told you..."Ukrainians were never black"? ANGLOS were black. Vikings were Black, Elfs.. again black. Black Irish.. } Scotland had blacks . Poland. etc Athens was a black founded city Europe was all BLACK! infact Europe was "north Africa" before the Mediterranean Sea was created. there land had 3 large LAKES. I dont know about other planets but on Earth 🌍 🌎 🌏 ALL HISTORY IS BLACK
To understand this topic, you really need to understand Kush , not from a mainstream point of view, but dig deeper. We are told is a study called Kusha Dwipa The Kushites of Asia , Another Book Called Wonderful Ethiopians also gives clarity to the presence of Kushite peoples in Asia. From a mythological perspective as well, the Kushites find mention in the ancient Indian texts. The Puranas say that the Kushites were the descendants of King Kusha-nabha who ruled in the Satya Yuga (Golden Age)Later, the Kushites rallied around Kusha, the son of Rama, and the Kashi tribe played a significant role in Ayodhya, the capital of Rama’s kingdom.
I'm studying Nisirgadatta Maharaj because it's the best teaching for me above everything, but I would love to find more info on Kush and spirituality, As a black man I am curious about our story.
African Americans/ black were here way before the settlelers, I believe when Europeans realized that, they rushed to Africa to fabricated the story of slavery, also they brought some from Africa, Spain/ the moors etc. The Cushite Empire is/was responsible populating black people in the earth, Bible Genesis talks about Cush, I think ch. 7...
@@amenajackson8133 you better dig into history books and learn more about hinduism and buddhism. look at the details of the statues, you'll see snails on the head i sure hope you know how to do a research
@@indnyl3244 there was no dam snails on his head, that's a bunch of lies. Non black people would rather believe in aliens than believe that a black person did something important. Lmao.
Smh there is only speculation in that regard. Just because the oldest anthropological findings where in Ethiopia does not prove that all people where black.
@@abusawdan9986 Nothing I said was based on the Lucy or anything Ethiopian. Science and archeology show that Europeans were originally black, or dark skinned, the same goes for every other continent. In fact, East Asians maintained some so called negroid like features such as rounder noses and yes, you guessed it slanted eyes, those were originally a black feature, and some Northern Europeans have them as well. Edit: All humans alive today are descended from one woman, and she wasn’t white lol.
@@justchilling704 yeah thats not black its definitely a darker colour ofcourse but everyone evolved in the meanwhile inclued africans who became real black
@@jokehu7115 Stop playing semantics. No one is actually Black duh, but all humans originally looked like what we call “Black People” today. This is not opinion it’s a scientific and historical fact that no credible biologist would deny.
I read somewhere that the curls on Siddartha head are actually representing the 108 or so snails that crawled or slithered(however snails move) on top of Siddartha head to protect him from the sun because it was obstructing his concentration while he was trying to achieve enlightenment
I remember reading that on the internet as well but I couldn't find a valid historical source to back up that narrative. If you check out the book "Scythian period" by Johanna E. Van Lohuizen-de Leeuw which is cited in the video, you will see that the author mentions that the "snail curl" hair pattern was not unique to the Buddha statues as it was also used in depictions of "Yaksa-like figures." She makes it clear that she is describing the style of hair whenever she wrote "snail shells" and no addition context or citations are provided when she uses that visual metaphor, so it seems to me that she was using "snail curls" as simply a descriptor of the shape of the hair curls rather than a allusion to a narrative involving actual snails.
@@amenajackson8133 Obviously, it's rubbish. Why not some snails stop crawling at the face; they had to get to the hair part. All this rubbish to hide the plain identity of the Buddha.
Buddhist here, all evidence points to the snail myth being no older than the internet. Maybe due to the very nature of being a Buddhist teacher, lol, but only one Buddhist elder has ever bothered to go online and debunk it, can’t remember his name as it was a while back when I saw it.
Some South Eastern Asians have dark brown skin and curly hair.. I have a big nose and big lips but I don’t have any African origins.. I don’t honestly believe because of someone’s hair or features make them “African” or whatever we’ve been told to believe.. but what do I know
Just say we're Indian. Stop pandering to these clowns. The "black" features this misinformation video is Dravidian Tamil origin. And I'm tamil and we're Indian
Very interesting take on Buddha, I also have the same thoughts when I was a kid given I've seen images of black people with their curly/wooly hair and associated them with Buddha's origin. The statue of Buddha we see today does not depict what Siddharta actually looked like. In fact, statues of Buddha wasn't emerged until lately since he is against Idol worship, so it doesn't make sense to have a statue of himself during his time. In Tipitaka ("Triple Basket" - Ancient Buddhist scriptures) even though there wasn't a direct mention, we can safely assume that the Buddha shaved his head like all other monks. Depictions of him with hair, is an iconographical convention without historical basis. So where did the spiraling curls come from? The Lakkhana Sutta and several other suttas are devoted to the concept of the 32 Signs of a Great Man (mahapurisalakkhana), a rather strange idea introduced into Buddhism at a later period. One of these signs pertain to the hair. The relevant passage reads ‘Uddhaggani lomani jatani nilani anjanavannani kundalavattani padakkhinavattaka jatan’ (D.II,17). Word for word this means - uddhaggani = turns around or upwards, lomani = hair, nilanianjanavannani = black in color similar to collyrium, kundalavattani = curled, and padakkhinavatta = turning to the right. So according to the sutta, the Great Man’s hair was black and curled upwards and to the right. The direction of right is auspicious in nearly all of cultures in the world, so having his hair curled to the right seems to be of that. Interestingly, the color of his hair which suggest of collyrium; Collyrium as it is used in India, is made from the ash of fleabane, ghee and a few other ingredients and is a black greasy substance. His stylized look may have been of influence from the West. It is thought that the first Buddha statues were made in Gandhara under Greek influence, and in Mathura, in around the 1st/2nd centuries CE, after Alexander the Great expanded to those parts of India. Greek or Greek-influenced sculptors in Gandhara, perhaps more rooted in reality, depicted the Buddha’s hair naturalistically as, not exactly curling to the right, but waving to the right. It is also worth noting that Buddha's depiction in statues varies from culture to culture. We even have early statues of Buddha that resembles of Greek Gods; characteristics such as curly/wavy hair, and aquiline nose. When you see a representation of Buddha you see his biography represented through artistic imagery.
Wow, that's powerful knowledge. I'm grateful that you went into great depth of detail to explain this. I used to practice mahayana Buddhism and also Nichiren Buddhis years ago and was so inspired by Siddhartha Guatama that I got an image of him sitting in a lotus position tattooed on me. I just never knew the depth of his phenotype before. Thank you for informing the people in this comment thread.
Buddha wasn't black though. This statue represents the snails on his head. A well known mythological story. it's pretty sad us blacks feels the need to steal the history, culture and art of every ancient society to steal their glory in order to cope with the humiliation of the age of European/American slavery.
Tried to? The cap of snails parable existed before black people started trying to claim every one else's history and culture. Snails are literally honoured as martyrs in Buddhism. 😂😂😂
For what it's worth, I once saw the photograph of a stone Buddha statue, located in China, holding a sistrum, which would normally belong in ancient Egypt.
Buddha wasn't black though. This statue represents the snails on his head. A well known mythological story. it's pretty sad us blacks feels the need to steal the history, culture and art of every ancient society to steal their glory in order to cope with the humiliation of the age of European/American slavery.
Excellent topic of discussion. Those that are interested there is a book written by Runoko Rashidi and co-edited by Ivan Van Sertima titled African Presence in Early Asia to consider. It's a good read. 🙏🏾🙌🏾
wavy hair when not cleaned and combed turns into knotted curly hair called "jataa" or as many people artificially do it in the salon known as dreadlocks. Buddha was a man who meditated for days in one stretch and his goal was to attain salvation. You can infer how much time he spent in taking care of his hair. I'm from Odisha and I have thick lips and nose(and dark skin too!). Many people in India do.
the eye test could also be the epicanthic eye fold, which is common in Asian and African people, Asian and some Africans have similarly shaped eyes. this eye fold is evident in some African art as well where the eyes have a similar Asiatic appearance. Early inhabitants of Asia however were African in appearance so that could be one reason why the Buddha has that look.
ruclips.net/video/Hd1alwM1Cvg/видео.html This is a channel called Patta history,here they say how a king from the royal blood line in Sri lanka ,the island nation just below India had literal African hair .And Sri Lankans tend to have very overt African features in comparison to Indians.So it is a definite possibility that Indian royalty could also have had an African blood line.
@@Stopplayingwithgod y'all people ?? Don't assume just because I don't go with your narrative. What's on Buddha head is snails not hair. And like I said any hear uncombed or washed for a long period will dread up, and it doesn't mean people are wearing it as a hairstyle ,they just may not have access to combs or may not care.. But you can find dread locks and I'm many cultures, Native American , Indian , Vikings . And probably more , because it's not always necessarily a hairstyle like today.
@@soda8736 For example: If a black person cuts his hair short. And Does not Touch his head. The hair on his head will instantly turn into tight coils. The Hair Instantly Locks up. Naturally. No styling. No combing. No finger curling. Just natural locs. The locs of hair can be small and short. Just Like Buddha. Or The Locks of hair can spring into Branches of Long Locks. A white person can not form dreadlocks this way! Their hair can NOT start off short AND coiled. It CANT Spring into Tight Branches of DreadLocks. Dont be Delusional.
I remember hearing somewhere that the first statues of Buddha didn't start popping up until after Alexander conquered Persia and imported a lot of Greeks into Bactria. The idea being that some of the Greeks living in that region converted to Buddhism and started building statues the same way they would have done with their own Pantheon in Greece, and the tradition stuck. Before Alexander, Buddhist art was mostly geometric patterns and such. That's what I've heard at least, haven't looked to deeply into it beyond that.
The orginal Buddha was from India, there has been thousands of Buddha's types of statues. Common was to create a Buddha statues which reflected the country, area or region which the statue was designed. This also helps people to identify with The Buddha and accept Buddhism.
@@nonakabyrd5759 Pakistan was a part of India. The Chinese new Buddha was from India, they did what many people do, made him look like them. Even the oldest Australian people have woolly hair and then the other had straight hair, some even blonde. Funny, they never show the woolly hair ones. No surprise. The dark skin woolly hair people are the first and that means we were all over the surface of the planet first not just Africa like some people want the world to think.
We should really stop putting questionmarks behind this. As a Melanesian from the Arafura sea in the West Pacific - South East Asia bridge. It is UNDISPUTED that the first and original inhabitants to the Far East have had and still have the AFRO hair and dark skin that Buddha is rocking in his statues. WE HAVE BEEN NATIVE HERE OVER 20.000 YEARS AND HAVE CIVILIZED THE GREAT OCEAN, and our influence spread from the RAJA AMPAT empire all the way to East Africa (Madagascar and Swahilli coast) and South America (Chile - Rapa Nui). Now Buddha lived for many aeons, which means his representation lived on and was wide spread. And it is evident that the regions that have the curly buddha, have evidence of their indigenous or ancestral peoples being darkskinned and curly haired. Even ancient Chinese statues of buddha show him sporting actual afro's before he became the bald buddha
True (your post was too long for me to read) but according to that logic “Everybody was black-ish” … if everybody was black then racism doesn’t exist because everybody black lol. Shakespeare. The Vikings. All the kings of the world we gonna claim is black 😂
@@Dcain2 No its not everyone claiming black, the logic states that credit must be given where it is due my friend. Right now we live in a eurocentric society globally where history is told through a white dominated lens. Inherently there is enough proof out there that traces of black presence and advancement is structurally being erased and replaced. Such as the lie about Buddha's curly hair being snails. It is a lie that was spread through the internet with no foundation yet it is used to erase black influence in Buddhist philosophy. Black is not necessarily African, yet the need for people to distance themselves from blackness is apalling. TLDR: credit must be given where it is due - Blackness is being erased from historical narratives on purpose. Aknowledgement must be given if Buddha was indeed black, what is the problem with that? That lightskin Asians might have ben preceded by black and darkskin Asians? It is a matter of inheritence, legacy and contribution. That is the problem. If you are white and your ancient statues are black - just aknowledge that there were black people before you and pay your respects dont try to manipulate the narrative.
In terms of historical/theological accuracy, the Siddhārtha Gautama is who most people refer to when the say "Buddha". It's important to note that Buddha is a title not a person, more akin to sainthood in Christian theology. The western misconception of the fat and bald monk Budai who became a "Buddha" is inaccurate and any practicing Buddhist in Asia knows this distinction clearly, and would not mix up the Siddhārtha Buddha with the Monk Budai. Siddhārtha Gautama is not a "savior" of the religion and much of the misconceptions come from when Christian missionaries wrote of the religion in their own Abrahamic/Jesus framework.
I love the fact that you brought out that it wasn’t black people that claimed the Buddha may have African origins that this claim was made by Europeans first just letting people know that this is not an Afro centric viewpoint because we got a lot of people out there that always want to claim that we are being Afro centrist we point out possible and obvious black origins of civilization.
ruclips.net/video/Hd1alwM1Cvg/видео.html This is a channel called Patta history,here they say how a king from the royal blood line in Sri lanka ,the island nation just below India had literal African hair .And Sri Lankans tend to have very overt African features in comparison to Indians.So it is a definite possibility that Indian royalty could also have had an African blood line.
I recently watched a bbc archeology documentary where they discovered a Roman village in England, in this village they found a villa and on its grounds they found a bronze key, so elaborately made and was clearly made as a statement of wealth, anyways on the key handle was depicted a black man, it was so obvious that they themselves said it was, but they claim that he must of been a barbarian gladiator, slave to the man that owned the villa, without any explanation what so ever just because he was black, this really got me annoyed that they try and apply the recent history of the Atlantic slave trade to the WHOLE of black history, and try and discredit any African existence outside of Africa. At this point it makes them look stupid and less credible, now I don’t trust anything archeologist say because they obviously have an agenda and not just out for truth, they like to out there own spin on things without even trying to come up with a plausible story. Something Im beginning to pick up on is that if people say something was a “mystery” it was probably black and they just don’t want to admit it 😂
In case I wasn’t clear I was saying that the Roman who owned the villa was most likely the guy depicted on the key, the archeologist didn’t want to admit that so they said he must of been a slave, which pissed me off because Romans never kept black Africans as slaves nor did they even provide a plausible theory as to why they decided he must of been a slave
There were vary few black people in roman empire, there wasn't any black country or territory conqured by the romans, north africa along meditreanian wasnt black.. Black people in Rome empire especially in Europe parts of empire were a tiny minority. Romans enslaved anyone they captured on battlefield or bought from slave traders. Germanians (Germans) were the biggest sourse of slaves the Roman enslaved. Ancien Rome was mostly white and brown people.
WingZero oh yes I’m not suggesting the Roman Empire was wholly African, I just mean that when that minority does appear historians apply recent events to whole of their history
The romans took many slaves from all corners of their empire, some from africa. It wasn’t racial like we think of it today. Maybe there was some depiction that made them believe it was a slave other than just skin color. Gladiators in particular, who were technically slaves, were like the superstars of their day and were frequently represented in roman art, there could be a connection there. Because yes, it would be dumb to draw a connection between the skin color and slavery those concepts didn’t exist back then.
I lived in India between 1980-1983 and I can say it here categorically that 70% of Indians are colored skinned people or what you would call melanated people. However, due to serious inbreeding most likely, their hairs are straight rather than woolly. Be that as it may, there are millions of colored Indians with kinky hairs and blacker skins than some of us chocolate colored Africans. However, most of the Indians in the north are pure caucasians and they are on the top of the ladder or caste in that sub continent. I was surprised when watching Zeeworld or Bollywood and hardly see dark skin Indians in their movies...The racial discrimination & acute caste system in evidently ominous and palpable in that country too.
Most North Indians are also colored people, some of us look white because that’s the beauty standard imposed by the British so Indians today work hard to remove their melanin all together. But naturally, we’re colored and melanated as shown in Indian historical art and statues
@@zuesmaya8167 yes I must agree with you, because I recently watched a short BBC documentary on Zeeworld, in which so many Indians claim that they were denied movie roles and corporate jobs, because of the color of their skins and as a result, undergo costly skin lightening procedures, to look fairer and whiter. I find this so disheartening and pathetic, because melanin is actually the most valuable chemical in existence, even far more than Gold and Diamonds. A gram of Gold in the international market, is sold for $67, whilst a Gram of man made Melanin is sold for $465. To think one has to be forced to scale down and damage ones natural melanin to fit in to a racial profile, is evil and demonic. If artificially made melanin is $465/gram, how much more would the God-given stuff be? What a pity.
The 1st time I ever seen a Buddha statue,I was riding with my wife,"Hey I know that hairstyle my sister and her friends have worn that style."I don't know if it's true but I know it looked like what I had seen before I ever knew anything about it
General Seti did a video on The Buddah he has traveled many places with scholars that have written many books that we should read. He has the best explaination thus far.
I think General Seti is very educated and smart, but I take a lot of what he says with a grain of salt being that from what I've seen, much of what he claims are just that...claims with little evidence or further context. There have also just been times where I was watching his lectures and he would say something that's just outright wrong. Not saying he's wrong when it comes to this, but I wouldn't hold his word as if it were absolute in validity.
@@afroartist1086 I agree with you as that applies to anyone including all these books written by ppl we know try to hide information from us. If we did not witness it ourselves we have to do our own research and discern whether we agree or not. We do have too many socalled scholars that have not traveled to the places the speak of. Seti has and shows evidence of most of his work so I can take a great deal of what he says as truth. I will never fully agree with anyone. But most ppl are listening to fake scholars saying crap like we turned wyt because we were stuck in Northern Europe for the 10k year ice age. What bs not scientifically sound, but most ppl do not know how to use discernment so the believe most of what they hear. As I said Seti has the best explanation thus far.
Ah you clearly haven't heard the story of the origins of the curls. When prince Siddhartha left lay life and cut his hair with the sword, the uncut portions snapped into curls and he never had to cut his hair again.
@@MeritMan Study the Lakkhana Sutta or do a google search on "32 signs of a great man" if you want to get an idea of how the Buddha may have looked like. Artists from time to time have sculpted/depicted the Buddha in different ways. The accuracy of their artistic imaginations depend on their biases and the knowledge or ignorance of these physical characteristics listed in the Suttas.
Buddhism is a Desi religion but ironically Desis themselves face lots of racism from East Asians And South East Asians who many themselves practice a Desi faith yeah
I mean there are indigenous black people in Asia, for example, the Mani tribe from Thailand and Batek tribe from Malaysia (Theres way more than what I mentioned). I heard these indigenous black Asian people have relations towards Melanesians who are also found in Asia (Like Timor Leste, West Papua, Maluku) and obviously the Pacific Islands, for example, Fiji, Papua New Guinea, New Caledonia (and more)
Well all of these people are East Eurasian groups and genetically related to other Asians but they aren't found in eastern India and Nepal which is where the Buddha is from. The Buddha and his family were from the Shakya (paternal) and Koliya (maternal) clans, two ethnic groups that were native to the sub-Himalayan region of southern Asia.
Let’s be completely honest, ‘African hair’ isn’t uncommon outside out of Africa for example in native America, India South Asia in general, Oceania and so on.
Another thing to look for a connection is Buddha's earlobe stretch. Some Buddha statues have him with his earlobe stretched and this is also a practice on some African and Asian tribes.
In the first century B.C.E., for example, the famous Greek historian Diodorus Siculus penned that, “From Ethiopia he (Osiris) passed through Arabia, bordering upon the Red Sea as far as India…. He built many cities in India, one of which he called Nysa, willing to have remembrance of that (Nysa) in Egypt, where he was brought up
that's the problem, the guy is using mythology as history, what if he wrote negative things about Africa...do we go, hey he wrote this about Africa, it must be true? This seems like a form of cherry picking.
Hey HomeTeam History, I enjoy your content and wanted to say what I know and think. The first anthropomorphic depictions of Buddha were made in the first Century CE, about 700 years after his birth. So, I don't think his statues are a really credible source of insight into his appearance.
You cannot say that the statues are not credible, because whoever made those statues, had the image and impression of what he or she wanted to create in mind before making them...That said, there is no way Buddha would have thin lips & he would be created with full lips and kinky hair. What you are trying to imply here tallies with what Leo Frobenius, the 20th century German looter, calling himself an archaeologist, was implying, when he said the Ile-Ife heads of the Yoruba, was too sophisticated & exquisite for the locals to have created, hence it has to have been done by the so called lost civilization of the ancient Greek Atlantis...But he couldn't explain why the Greeks didn't depict the Heads, in their own caucasian images but as the same black people that are indigenous to Yoruba land.
The curled hair and skin colour in statutes and paintings are not necessarily reflection of racial demographics. The curled hair, like the swirl of a shell, was an expression of cosmic symbolism, the same as with Jesus having hair like sheep’s (Aries) hair. You find in art whites depicted as black or described similarly so, but this too relates to cosmic myths, the Sun god, who is burnt by the Sun (from where he comes) or filled with the Sun and who subsequently disappears, hides or dies in the west where the sun sets gave rise to the idea of blackness. Alternatively the same Sun god and people who identified with him was depicted with golden radiance to symbolised the Sun that is why Jesus wear’s a halo with Sun rays or certain kings wear golden crowns with the spikes reflective of the Sun. Unfortunately, misunderstanding of our forbearers’ celestial myths were transformed into racial ideas.
ruclips.net/video/Hd1alwM1Cvg/видео.html This is a channel called Patta history,here they say how a king from the royal blood line in Sri lanka ,the island nation just below India had literal African hair .And Sri Lankans tend to have very overt African features in comparison to Indians.So it is a definite possibility that Indian royalty could also have had an African blood line.
One more thing sorry to continue. Look into the "Invasion Theory" This is very controversial because it depicts a time of the ancient Buddhist monks all being dark skin until an invasion. I personally believe it was an infiltration not invasion. Buddhist features were changed after 1500 BCE due to a new ruling class and they wanted Buddha in their image. Another great source to get started with is a youtube breakdown done by Anthony Elmore titled "What Japanese Do Not Want Black People To Know About Buddhism". This breakdown is very compelling because he draws from scholars of that time that provided very different account then what we know mainstream. All sources I've provided provide literature you can read to make you own conclusion. My research via historical text has proven that a lot has been stolen from African people and our extended kin throughout the Diaspora. Please study the origins of Buddhism the findings are breath taking in my opinion.
@@handsomeboi3767 That's true but those populations you describe are mostly there as a legacy of slavery. The Asian populations I'm describing have been there since humanity left Africa tens of thousands of years ago.
@@blackstarmedia1410 Numbers of south Iranians are of melanin dark hues. Their ancestors were traders from Africa. Yes 8,00,000 Africans were shipped over 2 Asia & the mideast as slaves. But, 1.5 million Europeans were kidnapped by Arabs to be enslaved in those regions.
The other reason that might underpin the African origin of the Buddha is the color of ancient Buddha sculptures, which is black, that could be found in some dominantly Buddhist nations.
As he was born in Northern India/Nepal it is extremely unlikely. Also Budha's lineage can be traced a few generations as he was born to a royal family and there are records in place. You can get wooly, thick curly and all sorts of hair in India. Siblings can have different types of hair. There doesn't seem to be enough evidence to support this hypothesis. A video worth exploring is Malik Ambar, an Ethiopian slave who rose to rule an Indian kingdom. Its a fascinating historical story
@Amon one not sure why that's relevant to this subject? But just to stop you feeling upset yes Hinduism is the world's oldest religion. I believe Buddha was part of a Hindu royal family and taught by pundits
@@amonone399 I'm not upset about anything, I couldn't be bothered to respond to your nonsense. Hinduism is recognised as the world's oldest religion still in practice. Not sure what you want a conversation about it or debate. You brought Hinduism in to a conversation about Buddhism for some strange reason. You may need professional help 🤡
Well as far as I am concerned they said that the reason for his head to look like that is because when Buddha was meditating in the hot sun. The snails crawled on his head to protect him from the blazing sun. They basically sacrificed themselves to protect Buddha's head.
Here’s the thing… the phenotypes being mentioned are not exclusive to Africa at all. These phenotypes exist originally all over the planet. He doesn’t have to be of African descent to have those phenotypes.
idk how true it is but in school i was taught that the buddha cut his hair short and while he was meditating under the bodhi tree, his head was exposed to the harsh weather . to protect the buddhas head, many snails came to his head and covered it , to protect it from the weather. idk if this story holds any truth to it, but this is what i was taught. im from india btw, and i practice a sort of mixture of Buddhism and Hinduism.
@@geechie-don7157 That's the point. Later in the evening the Buddha rose from his meditation and found that he wore a cap of 108 snails. They had given their lives so that the Buddha would not be disturbed on his path to enlightenment. Tibetan Buddhists honor snails as martyrs. My two semesters of Comparative Religion class at college hasn't gone to waste.
It’s definitely interesting. Some Indian people of course have very curly hair to this day. The fact that the Gautama Buddha was born to a noble family casts some doubt on the idea that he was of African ethnicity, though. But really, it doesn’t much matter, at least to the vast majority of Buddhists. And any Buddhist who really cares is missing the point. A lot of Buddha’s teaching revolves around shedding the concept of a permanent self, so concerns about ethnicity or any other identitarian issue are immaterial to Buddhist teaching. So if it was ever proven that the historical Buddha was African, Buddhists around the world would say, “Okay,” and continue to practice Buddhism. Some Indian nationalists would be angry. Probably, a lot of nominally-Buddhist East Asian people who have rough ideas about ethic African people would have to quarrel with their prejudice, but any Buddhist leader worth following would not be emotionally affected by it. They might become more interested in African philosophy. This is what I love about Buddhism. There are no barriers, nothing to politicize, about the path into Buddhism. The only thing that holds you back are your attachments and cravings.
Peace Brother...Look into the The African Origin of Asia, by Dr. Rashidi, Runoko. unfortunately, he passed about a little over a year. But his work lives on.....Keep up the good work..
Thanks for the interesting content in this video about the Buddha’s hair. There is much merit in generating awareness about the Buddha and his teachings. The Buddha’s physical appearance is one important aspect that shows an enlightened being’s form. There is an account of his hair spinning clockwise, his earlobes almost touching his shoulders, a tall being with arms long enough to touch the ground when sitting down etc. Believe it or not, these physical forms are an accumulation of aeons of merit in one’s past lives. Ultimately, it is important to have a strong and confident sense of self-identity but ironically this should lead one to eventually abandon the idea of one belonging to a single community rather all beings are actually inseparable to each other.
The earliest Buddha statues are actually from around the time of Alexander the freak when he invaded those areas. The Greeks took those stories about the Buddha from the local people's and created those wavy hair statues, in their image. Other depictions from right after that time actually look more African with the tightly curled hair thick lips and features even though they are later in origin. There is even a Greco Roman vase that I saw that depicts a black African with very big red lips black skin and the exact same twisted hairstyle. I really believe those black indigenous people of those lands created those statues after Greek influence left the land. You can see the people and you even see that they have peppercorn hair to me it is obvious.
The problem with those theories is that you are basing all of it off the representation of statues that were made by people who never even saw the man.
SMH. That was absolutely ridiculous. I don’t even know where to begin with the obvious things that are wrong with, not only your assumptions, but your thinking patterns. So I won’t. Because it’s all love. We all have an opinion.👍🏾
The Indigenous Black people of Asia are more removed from Africans that white Europeans. In fact, they're most closely related to Australian aborigenees. Something people need to learn is that no all "Black people" are or were Africans, and not all Africans were or are black.
What are you talking about? There are no indigenous Black people in Asia. And aboriginal Australians literally migrated from Africa 70 thousand years ago and Asians aren't more removed from white people. Asians genetically split from africans then European haplogroups split from Asians. The primary haplogroups of Europe either originated in Asia or Europe. Honestly the consistent examples of how a certain race is so intellectually behind every one else has rose to the top because of RUclips. It's embarrassing.
@@IrishCinnsealach There is actually indigenous black people in Asia, for example, the Mani tribe from Thailand and Batek tribe from Malaysia. I heard these indigenous black Asian people have relations towards Melanesians who are also found in Asia (Like Timor Leste, West Papua, Maluku) and obviously the Pacific Islands, for example, Fiji, Papua New Guinea, New Caledonia (and more)
Ayo what ?? You want to steal Indosphere culture now?? But you guys were said that you're egpytian, Greece, israelite , native mexican and now our culture?
Before Covid I taught different styles of brush painting and other Asian arts in an art museum. So I have seen incredible beautiful sculptures of the Buddha from different time periods. As you noted depictions of him have changes over the centuries. I never personally thought of this hair style as African hair or having to do with African culture. As an African American I am aware of the African /Asian ingenious peoples through out India and other countries. They are finally being acknowledged still they are not treated well.
Krishna has always been described as jet black similar to Nilotic people. So is ram and Sita, 2 very important people in Indian mythology. But this represents clouds and people with aborigines features, not Africans
@@zuesmaya8167 Krishna became blue over time. People of Andaman Islands aren't genetically African, but they are the ancestors of indigenous Indians so says Indians scientists.
@@Rimmekoukakibsi yeah because the skin color of Indians is very black… Krishna is the color of dark and rain filled clouds, Krishan represents the feeling farmers get when it’s about to rain. But he’s still of Indian origin, not African
I believe the golden crown on any of the "Buddha's "heads is meant to represent the crown Chakra. Every part of a buddha statue from the position of their hands down to what they're sitting on has a meaning. There have been many bohditsava's represented through Buddhist staues throughout history. Namaste..🙏🌈💛...sending love light and admiration for your channel.
Buddha wasn't black though. This statue represents the snails on his head. A well known mythological story. it's pretty sad us blacks feels the need to steal the history, culture and art of every ancient society to steal their glory in order to cope with the humiliation of the age of European/American slavery.
The curl is definitely hair. Notice also on the ancient Kemetic statues the crowns are typically hairstyles. And you’ll see the curl in most pharaohs headpiece.
Ancient Afrikans not created other races, but also created religion for them to be able to have an idea of innerself (spirituality), hence earlier created man (the ones that grow fur like hair) worshipped their creators (The Afrikan)..
What do you mean created other races, ? Other races were created from moving to different environments? We as black people are obsessed with this being first thing ..
I recommend reading the book "The Ancient Egyptian Buddha" by Muata Ashby. He does an excellent job not only explaining the origins of what we call Buddhism today, but also provide compelling artifacts and illustrations. What we call Buddhism was practiced 1000 years in Africa before it hit China, 1500 years before Japan, and 100s of years before India. One would have to study the origin of Buddhism to answer the question you posed in the video. Another amazing source that provides a lot of historically backed data is from the youtube breakdown done by The Real Merkabah titled Buddhism Vol 1 The Gods of The Ancient World. Also, read the story of Siddhartha; you will have to do a little digging because there is an agenda behind this to hide the true history because Buddhism is not owned by the true sources of it today.
@@Aj_Porsche only in Benin the country was voodoo practiced. Other sub Saharan cultures had their own religion. But certainly wasn’t buddhism as it was a purely Nepalese/ Indian religion.
@@msbronzegoddess3166 showing your inferiority complex lol... Just be proud of yourself and leave other people's religions cultures and achievements alone!
The adjustment of the human body as primordial we resided in all varieties of climate as saying corners of the earth survivable as the sun was much as precise today's weather is transitioning ton of civilizations closest to farthest of the sun varied in features and shades due to living environment from cold, hot, dry, wet etc etc
Many African origin people have untangled hair in their natural condition. It is usually done with a comb. The luxurious untangled curly hair can be put in a knot at the top of the head. Curly hair can become wavy when wet and newly dry. But as time moves on the texture reverts to the natural. As for hair cut short, there are several depictions of men of color created in art in Europe, Near East, and the Mediterranean. One such depiction is the Assyrian relief of the conquered Jews who shaved their heads before their capture in Lachish, Judea. The book of Song of Solomon describes the hair in clusters like a cluster of grapes. Today, all of this information is being watered down like the redone paintings in the Egyptian tombs. I also noticed very few images of the black and brown Buddha depicted here. I will check out the book referenced in the comments. Also, the art institute of Chicago has several Buddhas. I'm ready to do more research. 🤗
ruclips.net/video/Hd1alwM1Cvg/видео.html This is a channel called Patta history,here they say how a king from the royal blood line in Sri lanka ,the island nation just below India had literal African hair .And Sri Lankans tend to have very overt African features in comparison to Indians.So it is a definite possibility that Indian royalty could also have had an African blood line.
Many here seem to be taken up by the race issue, but what I find more interesting is how deities from different areas can share similarities. Indeed, religion is something that can be reborn/adopted depending on the culture in the area. Similarities between Buddha and a Ganda god, Mukasa are something to look into. Not that it is the same god, but the similarities are quite interesting. Just like Buddha, Mukasa is represented as a man seated under a tree, alone on an island on L. Victoria, meditating day and night, almost detached from the world. Mukasa is known as the god of the lake, for his ability to travel island to island without need of a boat. I have been told of a book that attempted to dig into this. Hope I can find it.
There is a book published by the Field Museum of Natural history where they mention a population of Negritos from the shores of rhe Gulf of Persia to India. Its called The Anthropology of Iran. 1939. Around page 127 of 502.
It is when you have the crown. Woolly nine ether hair. The one thing that people don't get because they have been lied to for so long is that Dark skin woolly hair people are the first and that means we were all over this planet first. Not just Africa like certain tribes of people keep telling you. That have lied to the world about the primordial race.
The original Asians are light brown skinned and are still light brown skinned. The melanasians of Southeast Asia are not the same people of whom you think of first when you say "Asian".... Mongoloid people like me.
@@notchurka3332 Stop lying you can find videos of these same people on RUclips right now. The original Asians were dark skinned people & they’re in every Asian country being shunned and looked down upon!
@@chellelechelle Yes they were scattered all over "SOUTHEAST ASIA"... but not in the northern hemisphere of Asia. They are Australo-Melanesians. Yes they were one of the first people who settled Asia because they were amongst of the earliest people who migrated out of Africa but they are not the original "Asians" because the modern use of the word "Asians" is generally to refer to Oriental/Mongoloid people like North, Central, East, and Southeast Asians. Also, the concept of Asia did not exist back then. Get it?
There is a book written in the 2nd century called 'The Life of Appolonius' that detailed the interactions between India and Africa. The people of that time were aware of each other, traded, shared ideas/philosophy and had many other relations.
During that time period goods are known to have been traded all across eurasia and africa. The romans and the chinese were well aware of eachother’s civilizations.
They say the Ganges river is named for an Ethiopian king. Ethiopia once referred to Black Africa.
@@HOPROPHETA I looked for an early historical source for that and couldn't find any. If anyone has any please share. I think that I heard that statement from Runoko Rashidi, or Dr. Ben.
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Is this book still in circulation
Nice video! I think people get confused because (from what we know so far) the original out of Africa migration happened over 50,000 years ago so many Indians still have those features, it's not uncommon to see people with different hair textures and skin tones ect. That doesn't necessarily mean that it was African influence since civilizations didn't develop till much later. Even if Buddha had curly hair it doesn't mean he is African, it could just be that he retained those features from the original out of Africa migration.
There is evidence of African influence in India though. The earliest example I know of is from the Indus River Valley where they found domestication of pearl millets which originated in Africa and were brought by African traders. This is huge because I can't imagine India without millets.
one of the best way to see trading/migration routes is in food. where it originates and how certain places have overlap in what they cultivate.
We all African at the end. We all come from the source.
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Delusional Mind. you can't SEE the truth. because you don't won't too.
I THINK YOU ARE CONFUSED YOUR DAMN SELF... DOESN'T MATTER, THIS ISN'T YOUR HISTORY.
First, what we're looking at here is not the Buddha, but statues of the Buddha; this should really be borne in mind. Statues of the Buddha are a very late development in Buddhist art--centuries after the Buddha's death. Originally, he was represented symbolically with a dharma-wheel, an empty throne, a bodhi tree, etc. So it is safe to say that no sculptor, nor even any of the sculptor's grandparents, was an eyewitness of what the Buddha looked like. The very first statues, the Gandharan statues with wavy hair you referred to, came from the Gandhari region, far up in the northwest of India. The statues were produced by Greek invaders who settled there after Alexander conquered the area. Anyway, they had no idea what Buddha looked like, and were interested mostly in reproducing their own images--some of the first statues not only had straight-to-wavy hair, the Buddha was also depicted with a mustache and wearing Greco-Roman togas. The absolute earliest examples of ancient Buddhist, with the Buddha represented symbolically, as I said above, did, however, represent certain Indian tribal groups of the time who followed the Buddha. Some of these groups are depicted with the same short-cropped, pepper corn hairstyle and hair texture we see as being "African" on the Buddha.
Also, that text that whatever author Home Team quoted citing from the Digha Nikaya is wholly fantasy, not historical. The Digha text is about "the 32 marks of a great man," an old teaching in India (though of uncertain origin) about certain "auspicious" congenital physical characteristics of a man born to greatness. In addition to the hair-thing, the marks include a tongue long enough to wipe one's own face from ear-to-ear, forehead to chin; arms that hang down to one's knees, distended earlobes, etc. If anything, any hair description wouldn't show his Africanness, it would show him to be a freak of nature. Do not look to this source for guidance.
The truth is these statues tell us more about what the people who produced them thought about themselves than what they knew about the Buddha.
Peace.
(If I may add my own two cents, people should not equate Black with African. First of all, there is no static set of phenotypical characteristics which can be said to define either of those terms. But, even allowing what common people generally think of when they think "Black," not all of these "Blacks" have an origin in Africa (other than saying we all do, including Whites, which is a pretty useless statement), just as many who are indigenous to Africa, have never left it, aren't what we would typically think of as "Black." The Whiteman taught us that thick lips, wide noses, and wooly hair are African, and exclusively African, characteristics. It's not true. It just isn't. And not all Africans have them, either--as we learn from Home Team's videos.)
Yup....these dudes only see colour. Like they were taught to(0) by their [former] white masters.
Your response is insightful. I'm Nigerian. Some Nigerians are so fair skinned that their veins are transparent.
Fulanis have straight noses.
Stereotypes is akin to racial profiling and obfuscates the truth.
@@lolasobande8663 apparently to the Afrocentric no one has achieved anything on their own merits without African intervention and no one comes from their own unique race or ethnicity and culture without originating directly from Africans and somehow this isn’t a supremacist ideology ?
@@lolasobande8663 interesting you say all that considering the reasoning for people believing Buddha was African is stereotypical sub-Saharan African physical traits LOL.. and when these claims can be debunked by those that are not ignorant by using real evidence and common sense it conveniently becomes them being racist
Only Africans have a history of creating great monuments, pyramids and status around the world......Facts!!!
My dad once tried to claim Pele was Sri Lankan like us because of his ear shape
I believe buddha started in Sri lanka.
@@msbronzegoddess3166 sister, do not tell my father this, he said we invented spaghetti
Yeah, and French fries😉. Think about that 🇧🇪.
@@msbronzegoddess3166he was a black, afroasiatic man.
racist ppl love to mock the truth. in hopes of convincing others it's not legitimate information.
I appreciate and love this channel so much thanks for the work u do be blessed and keep informing and educating us. I've learned alot since i started watching. 👁
Yes I did see the straight wavy hair of Buddha before. However I do think the other images of buddha reflected the people in those areas. So yes those curly hair represented curly hair as we see in South East Asian. Whats also important to remember its not just the curly hair type but large nose and large lips. These buddhas were representative of the people in those environments.
Exactly, universalizing religions try to make their religion fit within local cultural contexts. Otherwise a religion would be viewed as foreign and much less likely to be adopted by the local populace.
@@mzple Dude, Don't u guys anything in ur sub saharan region?? Why do u always larp on other civilizations?. Lord Buddha was Indian and son of the great Indian Hindu King shuddhodhana. Stop appropriating us..
You do know there are black natives in many parts of Asia. There are images of these people all over the internet
@@rintin287 You sound highly uneducated. People who are phenotypically called black are always lumped together if its in Africa, Asia or the Americas. We fully understand that they may be distant relatives or not even related at all, however they are always lumped with the terminology Black. So get over yourself, everything black isn't in Africa.
@Mimi facts bro
Bruv I love your objectivity. You never disappoint, my brother keep it up. Their is no place for race superiority only to acknowledge our place in the world as peoples from all walks of life.
Lol he literally promotes Afro centric positions sometimes stop with this nonsense
@@Saber23 tbh I've seen his view sometimes lean that way . But we are all humans . We can all fall prey to our biases. So maybe, but you have to look at the good . Rather than the bad. Because in this case the good fare exceeds the bad .
@@abusawdan9986 oh yes I agree akhi we all have biases just wanted to make sure you acknowledged that and weren’t just jumping on a bandwagon saying that this channel was always 100% objective but yes I agree the good this man puts out far outweighs the bad 🙏❤️
@@Saber23 anta Muslim? And yes , the reason why I even commented that was because I thought he would run with the narrative. But he didn't. He just put out all sources of facts ,and that's what I like about his work . He might have his opinions, but he knows how to do scholastic work.
It's "home team history" duh
I am a Hindu myself and we honor Buddha as a great philosopher, in old Hindu depictions in Vaishnava temples, we have him as pointed noses, sleepy/half-awake eyes or large almond shaped eyes and snailish/coiled or flowy hair with a dim smile, like Hindu depictions of sages/ascetics.
In Buddhist depictions, I have seen the same except features specific to the Buddhist populace, like in a Tibetan monastery, I saw a Buddha with Chinese features like small nose, small round fair faces. In an Indian Buddhist monastery, we see Hindu features characteristic of Indians, large eyes half closed, fair/golden skin, high nose bridge and similar hairstyle, the Topknot.
Hindu and Chinese males traditional hairstyle is a Topknot or bun, with gold ornaments and flowers adorning hair as per the Hindu philosophy of Shringara( Hindus didn't wear veils before contact with Abrahamic cultures).
We Hindus generally don't ponder on such characteristics, because we feel it's similar to ours like you said about Sri Lankan Buddhists, except the coiled hair. My family says, that since Buddha meditated for so long, snails attached themselves to his hair in the rain and it became the hairstyle later on, when he got enlightenment( since he couldn't care less about the snails). My Buddhist friend says that it is because the snails sacrificed themselves to save him from the scorching sun.
About the African origin, I am skeptical man. The Buddha originally came from lower Nepal or upper central India, the stronghold of Aryans and its also said that he was fair. Coming from a hilly terrain, it is unlikely. His features would be similar to present day Nepalis or Northern pahadi Hindus.
You misunderstand Indian genetics. Nepal was never an “aryan stronghold” if you mean Aryan the fucked up race thing whites believe. Indo Europeans were just one small part of the people who made up India, so most people in Nepal would’ve either looked dark skinned aborigines like other Indo aryan and Dravidian Indians, or they would looked Tibeto-Burmese. Buddha would not have looked fair or golden haired like you stated
Very interesting and it does have merit. Consider this from another comment ----
Thabang Malete
To understand this topic, you really need to understand Kush , not from a mainstream point of view, but dig deeper. We are told is a study called Kusha Dwipa The Kushites of Asia , Another Book Called Wonderful Ethiopians also gives clarity to the presence of Kushite peoples in Asia. From a mythological perspective as well, the Kushites find mention in the ancient Indian texts. The Puranas say that the Kushites were the descendants of King Kusha-nabha who ruled in the Satya Yuga (Golden Age)Later, the Kushites rallied around Kusha, the son of Rama, and the Kashi tribe played a significant role in Ayodhya, the capital of Rama’s kingdom.
First depiction of idol in the sub continent is statue of Buddha. where we can see alot of Hindu gods inspired from it. But the depiction of Buddha is not of native origins. But it was inspired or of Greek origin.
@@nowwhat6716 which those principles the Greek stole from the Ancient Egyptians and created new religions I.e. Hindu.
Pahadi people do not live anywhere where the Buddha's Sakya clan came from. He would have resembled the people of southern Nepal and eastern India.
amazing content brother !!!!
I would not be surprised if he had curly hair..I'm an Asian Buddhist and we are taught to respect indian or asiatic black because even I as an Asian Buddhist know he was not Asian but that he was from the middle East area touching africa. Nepal and India
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Oh that contradictions are hysterical. Firstly the middle East is western Asia. Secondly he was born in Nepal which is south Asia.
he wasn't from the Middle East. he was from Nepal. where do u get your information from lol
@@themongol1263 they get their Information from black propaganda channels on RUclips. It's pretty much were the education of black Americans starts and ends
🇳🇵Nepal is in South Asia, bro?
Claiming that Buddha was "one of us" seems to be a general nationalist fantasy. Ukrainian nationalists also declare that Buddha was a Ukrainian, based on the Slavic root "bud" being in his name.
Buddha isn't his actual name just a title to mean one who achieved enlightenment.
I think this kind of extreme rewriting of history so that My Group is the origin of everything, which you see in Hoteps and in Hindu nationalists ("Isaac Newton stole his ideas from the Vedas") and other people, is a result of extreme, almost pathological lack of self-esteem.
Heres the difference black people are global and not all are African. Ukrainians are from Ukraine.
" nationalism" is not a black thing!
#2 seriously, the notion that every land started with BLACK people is logical.
SO UKRAININAS could be right, but who told you..."Ukrainians were never black"?
ANGLOS were black. Vikings were Black, Elfs.. again black. Black Irish.. } Scotland had blacks . Poland. etc Athens was a black founded city
Europe was all BLACK!
infact Europe was "north Africa" before the Mediterranean Sea was created. there land had 3 large LAKES.
I dont know about other planets but on Earth 🌍 🌎 🌏 ALL HISTORY IS BLACK
@@cinnamonstar808 lol you joke
To understand this topic, you really need to understand Kush , not from a mainstream point of view, but dig deeper. We are told is a study called Kusha Dwipa The Kushites of Asia , Another Book Called Wonderful Ethiopians also gives clarity to the presence of Kushite peoples in Asia. From a mythological perspective as well, the Kushites find mention in the ancient Indian texts. The Puranas say that the Kushites were the descendants of King Kusha-nabha who ruled in the Satya Yuga (Golden Age)Later, the Kushites rallied around Kusha, the son of Rama, and the Kashi tribe played a significant role in Ayodhya, the capital of Rama’s kingdom.
Kush is such an important society and culture to know and its influences
I have a question: Do you believe alot of black Americans are from Africa or they were already here?
I'm studying Nisirgadatta Maharaj because it's the best teaching for me above everything, but I would love to find more info on Kush and spirituality, As a black man I am curious about our story.
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African Americans/ black were here way before the settlelers, I believe when Europeans realized that, they rushed to Africa to fabricated the story of slavery, also they brought some from Africa, Spain/ the moors etc. The Cushite Empire is/was responsible populating black people in the earth, Bible Genesis talks about Cush, I think ch. 7...
the snail like curls are actually snails on his head.
the snails were sitting on his head so he wouldn't suffer from a heatstroke during meditation.
Nonsense
@@amenajackson8133 you better dig into history books and learn more about hinduism and buddhism. look at the details of the statues, you'll see snails on the head
i sure hope you know how to do a research
@@indnyl3244 there was no dam snails on his head, that's a bunch of lies. Non black people would rather believe in aliens than believe that a black person did something important. Lmao.
@@indnyl3244Yes our african hair is coiled to protect us from heatstroke, no snails necessary. 😂.
@@amenajackson8133true hthooooooo
Well not to sound racist, but all people on the planet were at some point Black. Endogamy/environmental adaptation caused racial differences.
Smh there is only speculation in that regard. Just because the oldest anthropological findings where in Ethiopia does not prove that all people where black.
@@abusawdan9986 Nothing I said was based on the Lucy or anything Ethiopian. Science and archeology show that Europeans were originally black, or dark skinned, the same goes for every other continent. In fact, East Asians maintained some so called negroid like features such as rounder noses and yes, you guessed it slanted eyes, those were originally a black feature, and some Northern Europeans have them as well.
Edit: All humans alive today are descended from one woman, and she wasn’t white lol.
@@justchilling704 yeah thats not black its definitely a darker colour ofcourse but everyone evolved in the meanwhile inclued africans who became real black
@@jokehu7115 Stop playing semantics. No one is actually Black duh, but all humans originally looked like what we call “Black People” today. This is not opinion it’s a scientific and historical fact that no credible biologist would deny.
@@justchilling704 i mean sure but you could say that about the skins of modern apes and the apes we evolved from so this is just weird conversation
I read somewhere that the curls on Siddartha head are actually representing the 108 or so snails that crawled or slithered(however snails move) on top of Siddartha head to protect him from the sun because it was obstructing his concentration while he was trying to achieve enlightenment
I remember reading that on the internet as well but I couldn't find a valid historical source to back up that narrative. If you check out the book "Scythian period" by Johanna E. Van Lohuizen-de Leeuw which is cited in the video, you will see that the author mentions that the "snail curl" hair pattern was not unique to the Buddha statues as it was also used in depictions of "Yaksa-like figures." She makes it clear that she is describing the style of hair whenever she wrote "snail shells" and no addition context or citations are provided when she uses that visual metaphor, so it seems to me that she was using "snail curls" as simply a descriptor of the shape of the hair curls rather than a allusion to a narrative involving actual snails.
Sounds like nonsense.
@@amenajackson8133 makes sense when you read more of buddhism
@@amenajackson8133 Obviously, it's rubbish. Why not some snails stop crawling at the face; they had to get to the hair part. All this rubbish to hide the plain identity of the Buddha.
Buddhist here, all evidence points to the snail myth being no older than the internet. Maybe due to the very nature of being a Buddhist teacher, lol, but only one Buddhist elder has ever bothered to go online and debunk it, can’t remember his name as it was a while back when I saw it.
Some South Eastern Asians have dark brown skin and curly hair.. I have a big nose and big lips but I don’t have any African origins.. I don’t honestly believe because of someone’s hair or features make them “African” or whatever we’ve been told to believe.. but what do I know
Let the black Africans take credit for everything. Lol
Just say we're Indian. Stop pandering to these clowns. The "black" features this misinformation video is Dravidian Tamil origin. And I'm tamil and we're Indian
Very interesting take on Buddha, I also have the same thoughts when I was a kid given I've seen images of black people with their curly/wooly hair and associated them with Buddha's origin.
The statue of Buddha we see today does not depict what Siddharta actually looked like. In fact, statues of Buddha wasn't emerged until lately since he is against Idol worship, so it doesn't make sense to have a statue of himself during his time.
In Tipitaka ("Triple Basket" - Ancient Buddhist scriptures) even though there wasn't a direct mention, we can safely assume that the Buddha shaved his head like all other monks. Depictions of him with hair, is an iconographical convention without historical basis.
So where did the spiraling curls come from? The Lakkhana Sutta and several other suttas are devoted to the concept of the 32 Signs of a Great Man (mahapurisalakkhana), a rather strange idea introduced into Buddhism at a later period. One of these signs pertain to the hair. The relevant passage reads ‘Uddhaggani lomani jatani nilani anjanavannani kundalavattani padakkhinavattaka jatan’ (D.II,17). Word for word this means - uddhaggani = turns around or upwards, lomani = hair, nilanianjanavannani = black in color similar to collyrium, kundalavattani = curled, and padakkhinavatta = turning to the right. So according to the sutta, the Great Man’s hair was black and curled upwards and to the right. The direction of right is auspicious in nearly all of cultures in the world, so having his hair curled to the right seems to be of that. Interestingly, the color of his hair which suggest of collyrium; Collyrium as it is used in India, is made from the ash of fleabane, ghee and a few other ingredients and is a black greasy substance.
His stylized look may have been of influence from the West. It is thought that the first Buddha statues were made in Gandhara under Greek influence, and in Mathura, in around the 1st/2nd centuries CE, after Alexander the Great expanded to those parts of India. Greek or Greek-influenced sculptors in Gandhara, perhaps more rooted in reality, depicted the Buddha’s hair naturalistically as, not exactly curling to the right, but waving to the right.
It is also worth noting that Buddha's depiction in statues varies from culture to culture. We even have early statues of Buddha that resembles of Greek Gods; characteristics such as curly/wavy hair, and aquiline nose. When you see a representation of Buddha you see his biography represented through artistic imagery.
So what you are saying is that we have no idea how Buddha really looked like.
@@therisingsun8823 probably broadly Nepalese.
Wow, that's powerful knowledge. I'm grateful that you went into great depth of detail to explain this. I used to practice mahayana Buddhism and also Nichiren Buddhis years ago and was so inspired by Siddhartha Guatama that I got an image of him sitting in a lotus position tattooed on me. I just never knew the depth of his phenotype before. Thank you for informing the people in this comment thread.
Buddha wasn't black though. This statue represents the snails on his head. A well known mythological story. it's pretty sad us blacks feels the need to steal the history, culture and art of every ancient society to steal their glory in order to cope with the humiliation of the age of European/American slavery.
They tried to say it was snail shells
Tried to? The cap of snails parable existed before black people started trying to claim every one else's history and culture. Snails are literally honoured as martyrs in Buddhism.
😂😂😂
The ancient and somewhat common Asian practice that many monks did? Nah couldn’t be that.
Thanks for this.
Very informative.
This is the best explanation of the Buddha’s hair that I have seen to date.
For what it's worth, I once saw the photograph of a stone Buddha statue, located in China, holding a sistrum, which would normally belong in ancient Egypt.
Well Buddhism didn't get to china until the 7th century AD.
Great video
Thanks for this video and discussion… dating the artworks and presenting them helps to clear the air about The Buddha’s representations…
Hometeam❤
I'm west African, my Japanese host family call me "little Buddha " in Japan, Buddha is also called Shaka.....Oshaka sama, the polite way .
Buddha wasn't black though. This statue represents the snails on his head. A well known mythological story. it's pretty sad us blacks feels the need to steal the history, culture and art of every ancient society to steal their glory in order to cope with the humiliation of the age of European/American slavery.
Now Buddha is African too 😂Everyone know he's the father of Kizomba 😂
They think that only Africans have curly hair not Asians, Americans or Europeans.
Good research brother
So Insightful and enlightening
those aren’t hair,they are snails,they are their to protect buddha from heat
thats a myth. it's not related to real buddhist doctrine.
Excellent topic of discussion. Those that are interested there is a book written by Runoko Rashidi and co-edited by Ivan Van Sertima titled African Presence in Early Asia to consider. It's a good read. 🙏🏾🙌🏾
Sounds interesting
Great study bro.... Im glad you are dedicated to the objective truth and not assumptions in your study and presentation of facts.....
wavy hair when not cleaned and combed turns into knotted curly hair called "jataa" or as many people artificially do it in the salon known as dreadlocks. Buddha was a man who meditated for days in one stretch and his goal was to attain salvation. You can infer how much time he spent in taking care of his hair. I'm from Odisha and I have thick lips and nose(and dark skin too!). Many people in India do.
I remember having an argument with a black guy who couldn't understand people with straight hair can have dread locks .lol
the eye test could also be the epicanthic eye fold, which is common in Asian and African people, Asian and some Africans have similarly shaped eyes. this eye fold is evident in some African art as well where the eyes have a similar Asiatic appearance. Early inhabitants of Asia however were African in appearance so that could be one reason why the Buddha has that look.
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This is a channel called Patta history,here they say how a king from the royal blood line in Sri lanka ,the island nation just below India had literal African hair .And Sri Lankans tend to have very overt African features in comparison to Indians.So it is a definite possibility that Indian royalty could also have had an African blood line.
@@Stopplayingwithgod y'all people ?? Don't assume just because I don't go with your narrative. What's on Buddha head is snails not hair. And like I said any hear uncombed or washed for a long period will dread up, and it doesn't mean people are wearing it as a hairstyle ,they just may not have access to combs or may not care.. But you can find dread locks and I'm many cultures, Native American , Indian , Vikings . And probably more , because it's not always necessarily a hairstyle like today.
@@soda8736
For example:
If a black person cuts his hair short. And Does not Touch his head.
The hair on his head will instantly turn into tight coils. The Hair Instantly Locks up. Naturally.
No styling. No combing. No finger curling. Just natural locs.
The locs of hair can be small and short. Just Like Buddha.
Or The Locks of hair can spring into Branches of Long Locks.
A white person can not form dreadlocks this way! Their hair can NOT start off short AND coiled. It CANT Spring into Tight Branches of DreadLocks.
Dont be Delusional.
I remember hearing somewhere that the first statues of Buddha didn't start popping up until after Alexander conquered Persia and imported a lot of Greeks into Bactria. The idea being that some of the Greeks living in that region converted to Buddhism and started building statues the same way they would have done with their own Pantheon in Greece, and the tradition stuck. Before Alexander, Buddhist art was mostly geometric patterns and such.
That's what I've heard at least, haven't looked to deeply into it beyond that.
Yes you can see some sculptures from that era online, some give very Greek looking hair to Buddha
We thank you for your education and knowledge share please don’t stop
I appreciate the objective view and focus on facts.
The orginal Buddha was from India, there has been thousands of Buddha's types of statues. Common was to create a Buddha statues which reflected the country, area or region which the statue was designed. This also helps people to identify with The Buddha and accept Buddhism.
That is true, however, you have the original image of how Buddha looked.
@@amonone399 YES. East Asia, Indian, hair tied up on top of head, thin. Like Jesus, no one knows exactly what Buddha looked like.
@@amonone399 oldest Buddha was found in Pakistan, until 2021 a Buddha was found in China. It still fits within the East Asian area
@@nonakabyrd5759 That is the woolly nine ether hair Buddha has.
@@nonakabyrd5759 Pakistan was a part of India. The Chinese new Buddha was from India, they did what many people do, made him look like them. Even the oldest Australian people have woolly hair and then the other had straight hair, some even blonde. Funny, they never show the woolly hair ones. No surprise. The dark skin woolly hair people are the first and that means we were all over the surface of the planet first not just Africa like some people want the world to think.
Buda was from a African family living in India.
Stop spewing rubbish
You made that up
Good work
We should really stop putting questionmarks behind this. As a Melanesian from the Arafura sea in the West Pacific - South East Asia bridge. It is UNDISPUTED that the first and original inhabitants to the Far East have had and still have the AFRO hair and dark skin that Buddha is rocking in his statues. WE HAVE BEEN NATIVE HERE OVER 20.000 YEARS AND HAVE CIVILIZED THE GREAT OCEAN, and our influence spread from the RAJA AMPAT empire all the way to East Africa (Madagascar and Swahilli coast) and South America (Chile - Rapa Nui). Now Buddha lived for many aeons, which means his representation lived on and was wide spread. And it is evident that the regions that have the curly buddha, have evidence of their indigenous or ancestral peoples being darkskinned and curly haired. Even ancient Chinese statues of buddha show him sporting actual afro's before he became the bald buddha
True (your post was too long for me to read) but according to that logic “Everybody was black-ish” … if everybody was black then racism doesn’t exist because everybody black lol. Shakespeare. The Vikings. All the kings of the world we gonna claim is black 😂
@@Dcain2 No its not everyone claiming black, the logic states that credit must be given where it is due my friend. Right now we live in a eurocentric society globally where history is told through a white dominated lens. Inherently there is enough proof out there that traces of black presence and advancement is structurally being erased and replaced. Such as the lie about Buddha's curly hair being snails. It is a lie that was spread through the internet with no foundation yet it is used to erase black influence in Buddhist philosophy. Black is not necessarily African, yet the need for people to distance themselves from blackness is apalling.
TLDR: credit must be given where it is due - Blackness is being erased from historical narratives on purpose. Aknowledgement must be given if Buddha was indeed black, what is the problem with that? That lightskin Asians might have ben preceded by black and darkskin Asians? It is a matter of inheritence, legacy and contribution. That is the problem.
If you are white and your ancient statues are black - just aknowledge that there were black people before you and pay your respects dont try to manipulate the narrative.
Yes!!! And these are beautiful roots! Don't know why they were covered up 🙌🏻
Those are snails on his head, because he meditated for so long.
In terms of historical/theological accuracy, the Siddhārtha Gautama is who most people refer to when the say "Buddha". It's important to note that Buddha is a title not a person, more akin to sainthood in Christian theology. The western misconception of the fat and bald monk Budai who became a "Buddha" is inaccurate and any practicing Buddhist in Asia knows this distinction clearly, and would not mix up the Siddhārtha Buddha with the Monk Budai.
Siddhārtha Gautama is not a "savior" of the religion and much of the misconceptions come from when Christian missionaries wrote of the religion in their own Abrahamic/Jesus framework.
I love the fact that you brought out that it wasn’t black people that claimed the Buddha may have African origins that this claim was made by Europeans first just letting people know that this is not an Afro centric viewpoint because we got a lot of people out there that always want to claim that we are being Afro centrist we point out possible and obvious black origins of civilization.
Obvious ? A lot had happened after the last great migration. Maybe you missed the bus.
@@alexanderphilip1809 or the elephant!
It just seemed like my guy Buddha just wanted to rock a new hairstyle every once in a while😂
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This is a channel called Patta history,here they say how a king from the royal blood line in Sri lanka ,the island nation just below India had literal African hair .And Sri Lankans tend to have very overt African features in comparison to Indians.So it is a definite possibility that Indian royalty could also have had an African blood line.
Lol. Best comment 👍. A lot of people are way to serious. You proved me there's still hope 😉.
Yes! It is! So glad to see this!
Yes I'm so drawn to Budda 🔥🔥🥰.I'm so happy I'm watching this
I recently watched a bbc archeology documentary where they discovered a Roman village in England, in this village they found a villa and on its grounds they found a bronze key, so elaborately made and was clearly made as a statement of wealth, anyways on the key handle was depicted a black man, it was so obvious that they themselves said it was, but they claim that he must of been a barbarian gladiator, slave to the man that owned the villa, without any explanation what so ever just because he was black, this really got me annoyed that they try and apply the recent history of the Atlantic slave trade to the WHOLE of black history, and try and discredit any African existence outside of Africa. At this point it makes them look stupid and less credible, now I don’t trust anything archeologist say because they obviously have an agenda and not just out for truth, they like to out there own spin on things without even trying to come up with a plausible story.
Something Im beginning to pick up on is that if people say something was a “mystery” it was probably black and they just don’t want to admit it 😂
In case I wasn’t clear I was saying that the Roman who owned the villa was most likely the guy depicted on the key, the archeologist didn’t want to admit that so they said he must of been a slave, which pissed me off because Romans never kept black Africans as slaves nor did they even provide a plausible theory as to why they decided he must of been a slave
There were vary few black people in roman empire, there wasn't any black country or territory conqured by the romans, north africa along meditreanian wasnt black.. Black people in Rome empire especially in Europe parts of empire were a tiny minority. Romans enslaved anyone they captured on battlefield or bought from slave traders. Germanians (Germans) were the biggest sourse of slaves the Roman enslaved. Ancien Rome was mostly white and brown people.
WingZero oh yes I’m not suggesting the Roman Empire was wholly African, I just mean that when that minority does appear historians apply recent events to whole of their history
@@jimferry6539 I understand
The romans took many slaves from all corners of their empire, some from africa. It wasn’t racial like we think of it today. Maybe there was some depiction that made them believe it was a slave other than just skin color. Gladiators in particular, who were technically slaves, were like the superstars of their day and were frequently represented in roman art, there could be a connection there. Because yes, it would be dumb to draw a connection between the skin color and slavery those concepts didn’t exist back then.
I really appreciate the careful, nuanced, and objective way you approach these controversial issues.
I lived in India between 1980-1983 and I can say it here categorically that 70% of Indians are colored skinned people or what you would call melanated people. However, due to serious inbreeding most likely, their hairs are straight rather than woolly. Be that as it may, there are millions of colored Indians with kinky hairs and blacker skins than some of us chocolate colored Africans. However, most of the Indians in the north are pure caucasians and they are on the top of the ladder or caste in that sub continent. I was surprised when watching Zeeworld or Bollywood and hardly see dark skin Indians in their movies...The racial discrimination & acute caste system in evidently ominous and palpable in that country too.
Most North Indians are also colored people, some of us look white because that’s the beauty standard imposed by the British so Indians today work hard to remove their melanin all together. But naturally, we’re colored and melanated as shown in Indian historical art and statues
@@zuesmaya8167 yes I must agree with you, because I recently watched a short BBC documentary on Zeeworld, in which so many Indians claim that they were denied movie roles and corporate jobs, because of the color of their skins and as a result, undergo costly skin lightening procedures, to look fairer and whiter.
I find this so disheartening and pathetic, because melanin is actually the most valuable chemical in existence, even far more than Gold and Diamonds. A gram of Gold in the international market, is sold for $67, whilst a Gram of man made Melanin is sold for $465. To think one has to be forced to scale down and damage ones natural melanin to fit in to a racial profile, is evil and demonic. If artificially made melanin is $465/gram, how much more would the God-given stuff be? What a pity.
top notch scholarship everytime
The 1st time I ever seen a Buddha statue,I was riding with my wife,"Hey I know that hairstyle my sister and her friends have worn that style."I don't know if it's true but I know it looked like what I had seen before I ever knew anything about it
no one other then melanated ppl cant do that hair style and plus our ppl were the first ones in asia
General Seti did a video on The Buddah he has traveled many places with scholars that have written many books that we should read. He has the best explaination thus far.
Did he say he was black?. I know he probably did
@@soda8736 Who?
I think General Seti is very educated and smart, but I take a lot of what he says with a grain of salt being that from what I've seen, much of what he claims are just that...claims with little evidence or further context. There have also just been times where I was watching his lectures and he would say something that's just outright wrong. Not saying he's wrong when it comes to this, but I wouldn't hold his word as if it were absolute in validity.
@@afroartist1086 I agree with you as that applies to anyone including all these books written by ppl we know try to hide information from us. If we did not witness it ourselves we have to do our own research and discern whether we agree or not. We do have too many socalled scholars that have not traveled to the places the speak of. Seti has and shows evidence of most of his work so I can take a great deal of what he says as truth. I will never fully agree with anyone. But most ppl are listening to fake scholars saying crap like we turned wyt because we were stuck in Northern Europe for the 10k year ice age. What bs not scientifically sound, but most ppl do not know how to use discernment so the believe most of what they hear. As I said Seti has the best explanation thus far.
@@nubiathacreateher832 Did General Seti say the Buddha was black?
beautiful!
It's not Buddha's hair . Legend is that , snails covered his head to keep him wa during meditation.
Ah you clearly haven't heard the story of the origins of the curls. When prince Siddhartha left lay life and cut his hair with the sword, the uncut portions snapped into curls and he never had to cut his hair again.
Explain the big lips and and big nose
@@MeritMan Study the Lakkhana Sutta or do a google search on "32 signs of a great man" if you want to get an idea of how the Buddha may have looked like. Artists from time to time have sculpted/depicted the Buddha in different ways. The accuracy of their artistic imaginations depend on their biases and the knowledge or ignorance of these physical characteristics listed in the Suttas.
Buddhism is a Desi religion but ironically Desis themselves face lots of racism from East Asians And South East Asians who many themselves practice a Desi faith yeah
Heavy Gratitude.
You should make a video on the foods that were consumed in Africa pre colonization
I mean there are indigenous black people in Asia, for example, the Mani tribe from Thailand and Batek tribe from Malaysia (Theres way more than what I mentioned). I heard these indigenous black Asian people have relations towards Melanesians who are also found in Asia (Like Timor Leste, West Papua, Maluku) and obviously the Pacific Islands, for example, Fiji, Papua New Guinea, New Caledonia (and more)
Well all of these people are East Eurasian groups and genetically related to other Asians but they aren't found in eastern India and Nepal which is where the Buddha is from. The Buddha and his family were from the Shakya (paternal) and Koliya (maternal) clans, two ethnic groups that were native to the sub-Himalayan region of southern Asia.
@@user-jt3dw6vv4xGet Ober it. Original buddha looks negrito.
Let’s be completely honest, ‘African hair’ isn’t uncommon outside out of Africa for example in native America, India South Asia in general, Oceania and so on.
This guy just sounds good and it helps to get new fans...
Another thing to look for a connection is Buddha's earlobe stretch. Some Buddha statues have him with his earlobe stretched and this is also a practice on some African and Asian tribes.
In the first century B.C.E., for example, the famous Greek historian Diodorus Siculus penned that,
“From Ethiopia he (Osiris) passed through Arabia, bordering upon the Red Sea as far as India…. He built many cities in India, one of which he called Nysa, willing to have remembrance of that (Nysa) in Egypt, where he was brought up
that's the problem, the guy is using mythology as history, what if he wrote negative things about Africa...do we go, hey he wrote this about Africa, it must be true?
This seems like a form of cherry picking.
Hey HomeTeam History, I enjoy your content and wanted to say what I know and think. The first anthropomorphic depictions of Buddha were made in the first Century CE, about 700 years after his birth. So, I don't think his statues are a really credible source of insight into his appearance.
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You cannot say that the statues are not credible, because whoever made those statues, had the image and impression of what he or she wanted to create in mind before making them...That said, there is no way Buddha would have thin lips & he would be created with full lips and kinky hair. What you are trying to imply here tallies with what Leo Frobenius, the 20th century German looter, calling himself an archaeologist, was implying, when he said the Ile-Ife heads of the Yoruba, was too sophisticated & exquisite for the locals to have created, hence it has to have been done by the so called lost civilization of the ancient Greek Atlantis...But he couldn't explain why the Greeks didn't depict the Heads, in their own caucasian images but as the same black people that are indigenous to Yoruba land.
@@efemzyekun900 tf was that answer.
@@nick.19 ask your search engine. Mtcheeww
@@efemzyekun900 they didn't accurately preserve his image for 700 years.
Don't be foolish.
Art is sometimes just art.
You have a very soothing voice you should do meditation videos.
Where would you place the findings of the Ajanta Caves?
Idk I'm all for black people to look for representation in history gut when that comes at the expense of other colonized people it feels iffy.
Yeah every single population in the world have been colonizers or more commonly genociders themselves . Grow the f up👍
MUCH LOVE to our Siddi KINGS and QUEENS over there in India
ALL FOR THE LOVE verse... AwareYAH, I speak on the Siddi people and in this other not out yet but probably in a few days I speak on Buda
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DO a video on the Buddha’s 👂’s
Thank you 😊
The curled hair and skin colour in statutes and paintings are not necessarily reflection of racial demographics. The curled hair, like the swirl of a shell, was an expression of cosmic symbolism, the same as with Jesus having hair like sheep’s (Aries) hair. You find in art whites depicted as black or described similarly so, but this too relates to cosmic myths, the Sun god, who is burnt by the Sun (from where he comes) or filled with the Sun and who subsequently disappears, hides or dies in the west where the sun sets gave rise to the idea of blackness. Alternatively the same Sun god and people who identified with him was depicted with golden radiance to symbolised the Sun that is why Jesus wear’s a halo with Sun rays or certain kings wear golden crowns with the spikes reflective of the Sun. Unfortunately, misunderstanding of our forbearers’ celestial myths were transformed into racial ideas.
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This is a channel called Patta history,here they say how a king from the royal blood line in Sri lanka ,the island nation just below India had literal African hair .And Sri Lankans tend to have very overt African features in comparison to Indians.So it is a definite possibility that Indian royalty could also have had an African blood line.
One more thing sorry to continue. Look into the "Invasion Theory" This is very controversial because it depicts a time of the ancient Buddhist monks all being dark skin until an invasion. I personally believe it was an infiltration not invasion. Buddhist features were changed after 1500 BCE due to a new ruling class and they wanted Buddha in their image. Another great source to get started with is a youtube breakdown done by Anthony Elmore titled "What Japanese Do Not Want Black People To Know About Buddhism". This breakdown is very compelling because he draws from scholars of that time that provided very different account then what we know mainstream. All sources I've provided provide literature you can read to make you own conclusion. My research via historical text has proven that a lot has been stolen from African people and our extended kin throughout the Diaspora. Please study the origins of Buddhism the findings are breath taking in my opinion.
💯 indigenous Afro peoples are to be found throughout Asia
i just looked it up and your right but they really only have a notable presence in India or middle eastern regions
@@handsomeboi3767 That's true but those populations you describe are mostly there as a legacy of slavery. The Asian populations I'm describing have been there since humanity left Africa tens of thousands of years ago.
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@@blackstarmedia1410 Numbers of south Iranians are of melanin dark hues. Their ancestors were traders from Africa.
Yes 8,00,000 Africans were shipped over 2 Asia & the mideast as slaves.
But, 1.5 million Europeans were kidnapped by Arabs to be enslaved in those regions.
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Look this up, we can be found EVERYWHERE! WE ARE INDIGENOUS TO THE WORLD, WE WERE HERE FIRST! THESE ARE FACTS..
The other reason that might underpin the African origin of the Buddha is the color of ancient Buddha sculptures, which is black, that could be found in some dominantly Buddhist nations.
As he was born in Northern India/Nepal it is extremely unlikely. Also Budha's lineage can be traced a few generations as he was born to a royal family and there are records in place.
You can get wooly, thick curly and all sorts of hair in India. Siblings can have different types of hair.
There doesn't seem to be enough evidence to support this hypothesis.
A video worth exploring is Malik Ambar, an Ethiopian slave who rose to rule an Indian kingdom. Its a fascinating historical story
The Hindu were on this planet very long as well.
@Amon one not sure why that's relevant to this subject?
But just to stop you feeling upset yes Hinduism is the world's oldest religion. I believe Buddha was part of a Hindu royal family and taught by pundits
@@JayThandi Not the oldest religion.
@@JayThandi Upset LOL!
@@amonone399 I'm not upset about anything, I couldn't be bothered to respond to your nonsense.
Hinduism is recognised as the world's oldest religion still in practice. Not sure what you want a conversation about it or debate. You brought Hinduism in to a conversation about Buddhism for some strange reason. You may need professional help 🤡
Well as far as I am concerned they said that the reason for his head to look like that is because when Buddha was meditating in the hot sun. The snails crawled on his head to protect him from the blazing sun. They basically sacrificed themselves to protect Buddha's head.
Snails 🐌 really?
French buddha be like:"mmmm ze breaquefaste 🍽😋"
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I looked it up. It's a thing
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Here’s the thing… the phenotypes being mentioned are not exclusive to Africa at all. These phenotypes exist originally all over the planet. He doesn’t have to be of African descent to have those phenotypes.
Yes the same mistake was made witch the Olmecs
Yes he does..
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No mistakes made with the Olmecs, they were of African descent... period..
idk how true it is but in school i was taught that the buddha cut his hair short and while he was meditating under the bodhi tree, his head was exposed to the harsh weather . to protect the buddhas head, many snails came to his head and covered it , to protect it from the weather. idk if this story holds any truth to it, but this is what i was taught. im from india btw, and i practice a sort of mixture of Buddhism and Hinduism.
That is not The Buddha's hair. It represents the snails that covered his head as he meditated in the hot sun.
Snails don’t do sunlight homie…
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That's the point. Later in the evening the Buddha rose from his meditation and found that he wore a cap of 108 snails. They had given their lives so that the Buddha would not be disturbed on his path to enlightenment.
Tibetan Buddhists honor snails as martyrs.
My two semesters of Comparative Religion class at college hasn't gone to waste.
Well done and unbiased. I appreciate that, being half Indian myself.
It’s definitely interesting. Some Indian people of course have very curly hair to this day. The fact that the Gautama Buddha was born to a noble family casts some doubt on the idea that he was of African ethnicity, though. But really, it doesn’t much matter, at least to the vast majority of Buddhists. And any Buddhist who really cares is missing the point. A lot of Buddha’s teaching revolves around shedding the concept of a permanent self, so concerns about ethnicity or any other identitarian issue are immaterial to Buddhist teaching.
So if it was ever proven that the historical Buddha was African, Buddhists around the world would say, “Okay,” and continue to practice Buddhism. Some Indian nationalists would be angry. Probably, a lot of nominally-Buddhist East Asian people who have rough ideas about ethic African people would have to quarrel with their prejudice, but any Buddhist leader worth following would not be emotionally affected by it. They might become more interested in African philosophy.
This is what I love about Buddhism. There are no barriers, nothing to politicize, about the path into Buddhism. The only thing that holds you back are your attachments and cravings.
Bro you believe this person? Ask him and there is any scripture about Buddha in Africa.
South East Asia is full of Buddhism
Peace Brother...Look into the The African Origin of Asia, by Dr. Rashidi, Runoko. unfortunately, he passed about a little over a year. But his work lives on.....Keep up the good work..
Thanks for the interesting content in this video about the Buddha’s hair. There is much merit in generating awareness about the Buddha and his teachings. The Buddha’s physical appearance is one important aspect that shows an enlightened being’s form. There is an account of his hair spinning clockwise, his earlobes almost touching his shoulders, a tall being with arms long enough to touch the ground when sitting down etc. Believe it or not, these physical forms are an accumulation of aeons of merit in one’s past lives. Ultimately, it is important to have a strong and confident sense of self-identity but ironically this should lead one to eventually abandon the idea of one belonging to a single community rather all beings are actually inseparable to each other.
The earliest Buddha statues are actually from around the time of Alexander the freak when he invaded those areas. The Greeks took those stories about the Buddha from the local people's and created those wavy hair statues, in their image. Other depictions from right after that time actually look more African with the tightly curled hair thick lips and features even though they are later in origin. There is even a Greco Roman vase that I saw that depicts a black African with very big red lips black skin and the exact same twisted hairstyle. I really believe those black indigenous people of those lands created those statues after Greek influence left the land. You can see the people and you even see that they have peppercorn hair to me it is obvious.
The problem with those theories is that you are basing all of it off the representation of statues that were made by people who never even saw the man.
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SMH.
That was absolutely ridiculous.
I don’t even know where to begin with the obvious things that are wrong with, not only your assumptions, but your thinking patterns.
So I won’t. Because it’s all love.
We all have an opinion.👍🏾
Look up ancient carved head of Buddha from Nagaland
Alexander the freak?
Answer no! There are numerous descriptions of Buddha including his life’s history none of which make any such assertion.
Every people on the Earth has Buddha heart within. And everyone can become Buddha. So Buddha is for everyone 😊❤
The Indigenous Black people of Asia are more removed from Africans that white Europeans. In fact, they're most closely related to Australian aborigenees. Something people need to learn is that no all "Black people" are or were Africans, and not all Africans were or are black.
What are you talking about? There are no indigenous Black people in Asia. And aboriginal Australians literally migrated from Africa 70 thousand years ago and Asians aren't more removed from white people. Asians genetically split from africans then European haplogroups split from Asians. The primary haplogroups of Europe either originated in Asia or Europe.
Honestly the consistent examples of how a certain race is so intellectually behind every one else has rose to the top because of RUclips. It's embarrassing.
@@IrishCinnsealach I think he was talking about south and south east before we came down and intermingled with them.
@@IrishCinnsealach I agree with tho
@@IrishCinnsealach There is actually indigenous black people in Asia, for example, the Mani tribe from Thailand and Batek tribe from Malaysia. I heard these indigenous black Asian people have relations towards Melanesians who are also found in Asia (Like Timor Leste, West Papua, Maluku) and obviously the Pacific Islands, for example, Fiji, Papua New Guinea, New Caledonia (and more)
Ayo what ??
You want to steal Indosphere culture now??
But you guys were said that you're egpytian, Greece, israelite , native mexican and now our culture?
They learned from their slave masters the best, all they do is steal!
They created ERRRTHAAANG.
smfh, blacks are so lost
people in india say buddha is black. just like krishna. dont be offended. Try learn real history through a non-british/english scope.
@@truth9415 n shiett.
@@Warlock-enjoyer are you not intelligent enough to create a valid point?
Before Covid I taught different styles of brush painting and other Asian arts in an art museum. So I have seen incredible beautiful sculptures of the Buddha from different time periods. As you noted depictions of him have changes over the centuries. I never personally thought of this hair style as African hair or having to do with African culture. As an African American I am aware of the African /Asian ingenious peoples through out India and other countries. They are finally being acknowledged still they are not treated well.
We Indians have got nothing to do with u. Stop appropriating our gods and religion.
@@rintin287 lol😂🤣
@@mzansitrash cultureless creeds should stop larping on Indian culture.
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@@rintin287Get over it
Depending on which Buddha
Wait did you say "the artist impression of hair cut short with a top not"😂😂😂
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The original people of India were related to the people of the Andaman Islands. Also, see the earliest art of Krishna.
Krishna has always been described as jet black similar to Nilotic people. So is ram and Sita, 2 very important people in Indian mythology. But this represents clouds and people with aborigines features, not Africans
@@zuesmaya8167 Krishna became blue over time. People of Andaman Islands aren't genetically African, but they are the ancestors of indigenous Indians so says Indians scientists.
Krisna mean black
@@Rimmekoukakibsi yeah because the skin color of Indians is very black… Krishna is the color of dark and rain filled clouds, Krishan represents the feeling farmers get when it’s about to rain. But he’s still of Indian origin, not African
I believe the golden crown on any of the "Buddha's "heads is meant to represent the crown Chakra. Every part of a buddha statue from the position of their hands down to what they're sitting on has a meaning. There have been many bohditsava's represented through Buddhist staues throughout history. Namaste..🙏🌈💛...sending love light and admiration for your channel.
Buddha wasn't black though. This statue represents the snails on his head. A well known mythological story. it's pretty sad us blacks feels the need to steal the history, culture and art of every ancient society to steal their glory in order to cope with the humiliation of the age of European/American slavery.
“I am because we are and we are because I am” ahh yes the floor is made of the floor
The curl is definitely hair. Notice also on the ancient Kemetic statues the crowns are typically hairstyles. And you’ll see the curl in most pharaohs headpiece.
Ancient Afrikans not created other races, but also created religion for them to be able to have an idea of innerself (spirituality), hence earlier created man (the ones that grow fur like hair) worshipped their creators (The Afrikan)..
What do you mean created other races, ? Other races were created from moving to different environments? We as black people are obsessed with this being first thing ..
I recommend reading the book "The Ancient Egyptian Buddha" by Muata Ashby. He does an excellent job not only explaining the origins of what we call Buddhism today, but also provide compelling artifacts and illustrations. What we call Buddhism was practiced 1000 years in Africa before it hit China, 1500 years before Japan, and 100s of years before India. One would have to study the origin of Buddhism to answer the question you posed in the video. Another amazing source that provides a lot of historically backed data is from the youtube breakdown done by The Real Merkabah titled Buddhism Vol 1 The Gods of The Ancient World. Also, read the story of Siddhartha; you will have to do a little digging because there is an agenda behind this to hide the true history because Buddhism is not owned by the true sources of it today.
Thanks for these book recommendations .
Voodoo was practised in Sub Saharan Africa! Not Buddhism! Lol your comical.
@@Aj_Porsche only in Benin the country was voodoo practiced. Other sub Saharan cultures had their own religion. But certainly wasn’t buddhism as it was a purely Nepalese/ Indian religion.
@@Aj_Porsche Stay clueless
@@msbronzegoddess3166 showing your inferiority complex lol... Just be proud of yourself and leave other people's religions cultures and achievements alone!
The adjustment of the human body as primordial we resided in all varieties of climate as saying corners of the earth survivable as the sun was much as precise today's weather is transitioning ton of civilizations closest to farthest of the sun varied in features and shades due to living environment from cold, hot, dry, wet etc etc
Hey brother
Why don’t you make a video about the queen of Sheba and the Ethiopian Eunuch
Many African origin people have untangled hair in their natural condition. It is usually done with a comb. The luxurious untangled curly hair can be put in a knot at the top of the head. Curly hair can become wavy when wet and newly dry. But as time moves on the texture reverts to the natural.
As for hair cut short, there are several depictions of men of color created in art in Europe, Near East, and the Mediterranean.
One such depiction is the Assyrian relief of the conquered Jews who shaved their heads before their capture in Lachish, Judea. The book of Song of Solomon describes the hair in clusters like a cluster of grapes.
Today, all of this information is being watered down like the redone paintings in the Egyptian tombs.
I also noticed very few images of the black and brown Buddha depicted here. I will check out the book referenced in the comments.
Also, the art institute of Chicago has several Buddhas.
I'm ready to do more research. 🤗
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This is a channel called Patta history,here they say how a king from the royal blood line in Sri lanka ,the island nation just below India had literal African hair .And Sri Lankans tend to have very overt African features in comparison to Indians.So it is a definite possibility that Indian royalty could also have had an African blood line.
Many here seem to be taken up by the race issue, but what I find more interesting is how deities from different areas can share similarities. Indeed, religion is something that can be reborn/adopted depending on the culture in the area.
Similarities between Buddha and a Ganda god, Mukasa are something to look into. Not that it is the same god, but the similarities are quite interesting.
Just like Buddha, Mukasa is represented as a man seated under a tree, alone on an island on L. Victoria, meditating day and night, almost detached from the world.
Mukasa is known as the god of the lake, for his ability to travel island to island without need of a boat.
I have been told of a book that attempted to dig into this. Hope I can find it.
Kitufu kyoyogelako
Akatabo bakayita batya ? Nandi yagadde okasomako .
There is a book published by the Field Museum of Natural history where they mention a population of Negritos from the shores of rhe Gulf of Persia to India. Its called The Anthropology of Iran. 1939. Around page 127 of 502.
Just look at my thumbnail people , it is the oldest living painting of the Buddha harma, and there is lots of more
No. I wouldn’t say it’s a sign of African origin. I would say it’s a sign that the original Asians were dark-skinned… like the rest of the world 🤷🏾♀️
It is when you have the crown. Woolly nine ether hair. The one thing that people don't get because they have been lied to for so long is that Dark skin woolly hair people are the first and that means we were all over this planet first. Not just Africa like certain tribes of people keep telling you. That have lied to the world about the primordial race.
The original Asians are light brown skinned and are still light brown skinned. The melanasians of Southeast Asia are not the same people of whom you think of first when you say "Asian".... Mongoloid people like me.
@@notchurka3332 Stop lying you can find videos of these same people on RUclips right now. The original Asians were dark skinned people & they’re in every Asian country being shunned and looked down upon!
@@chellelechelle Yes they were scattered all over "SOUTHEAST ASIA"... but not in the northern hemisphere of Asia. They are Australo-Melanesians. Yes they were one of the first people who settled Asia because they were amongst of the earliest people who migrated out of Africa but they are not the original "Asians" because the modern use of the word "Asians" is generally to refer to Oriental/Mongoloid people like North, Central, East, and Southeast Asians. Also, the concept of Asia did not exist back then. Get it?