Wil Wheaton and William Shatner Talk 'Addictive' Video Games, Magic The Gathering
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
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'Star Trek' alum Wil Wheaton joins his former co-star William Shatner in this 'Brown Bag Wine Tasting' extra to talk about his passion for video games. Wheaton reminisces about his youth spent playing Sega Genesis and Dungeons and Dragons with friends, and discusses the ability to create meaningful relationships in virtual worlds in popular games like World of Warcraft. Wheaton also goes into detail about the search for life in the rest of the universe -- on Mars and beyond.
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Having just listened to Wil talking about meeting Shatner, the fact they are apparently good friends now is....quite nice, actually.
Like a battered child with daddy issues. He is just glad for the attention when daddy is in a 'nice' mood.
Lol. I rember shatner on a video game commercial for world of war craft but will is prety awesome
I just listened to that yesterday.. Then this came up today... Thought the same thing 🖖😂
I think he just puts up with shit-ner to get on. What that man shit-ner has to young people with his insensitive comments and of the left of society is very regrettable. It's left a negitive effect on his career. Shame really. The big actor remembered in the future for been a twat.
William now must be about 47 yes has come back to educate us all on how to be a good man and not a shit-ner. Good man will👍
Just watched that very same clip today. Surprised to see them actcso nice after he belittled him like a jerk. I had such high regard for William after watching kirk an TJ hooker. Lost so much respect for him.
This is SO different to watch once you see the video with Wil talking about Shatner being an ass to him when he met him during STTNG.
Daehawk I know. I just saw this after watching the other yesterday. And Wil seems so comfortable around Bill now.
Eddie King well it has been 20+ years and an apology later. Bill has chilled since then.
Funny thing is until the last ten years or so, the only two anecdotes I had heard about William Shatner were extremely positive. A friend of mine had a daughter trying to break into show biz and she said Shatner completely ignored the table full of accomplished actors to sit down and talk with her during lunches, give her support, etc. The second one came from a friend named Janell (in case William Shatner is watching this and remembers). Many years ago, she met him at a bar. I'm not sure I remember correctly, but I think she was tending. He told her about a wonderful place to eat and she was enthusiastic about it. The next day Shatner sent her a free lunch from that restaurant. Due to these two anecdotes, my opinion was that Shatner was generous and down-to-earth.
I only heard about William Fucking Shatner from George Takei, some of the other actors who weren't Kelley and Nimoy (in other words, the B Team) and Wil Wheaton. I totally believe he was probably a jerk to them, but there was another side to him, as well. Otherwise, he would never have sent a lunch to my friend.
So Shatner? He can't be all bad.
@@minolta4life831 Wheaton's an ass in general. Self absorbed and pompous.
Was thinking the same thing. Still love the Shat, but I'm sure he's not perfect. Glad to see Wil and Bill together.
1:55, the look on Shatner's face is like he's lost, PRICELESS! :D
Wheaton is killing it with fascinating topics and being relevant and Shatner looks like he can't wait for his diaper to be changed... smh #getoffmystarship
@@BillPenny I thought the same darn thing! What I also wondered is what this "chat" would have turned out to be if he had it with another Star Trek actor, who actually has an interesting personality and is curious about different things in life, like Bruce Greenwood. The "chat" might have become a discussion that goes on for a whole hour.
Nice to see them hanging out after all these years.
Shatner is being nice and civil to Wil. What a refreshing change from their first meeting when The Shat was a total jerk to Wil, who was a HUGE fan.
Used to love Magic The Gathering.
I cant stop listening to wil reading ready player one. his voice has become super comforting this year!
This is so cute. Like a kid talking to an attentive grandpa. I love it.
Shatner to himself before the video: "Just smile and nod"
Will is 47 years old.
Just let that sink in for a second...
really???
And Bill is 85 in this vid. It’s crazy
I'm just 49 this year... When Will said he attended college in 90's, I kind of freaked out. Good video
Damn.
47? He looks 30. :O
Wow... your relationship came along way since "I'd never let a kid pilot my starship"
I think Shatner has realized what a Dick head he used to be and now he's just trying to be understanding of other people's views?? !!! No joking he doesn't care and hasn't a Fu*king clue what this child is on about! He's wondering where's my cheque?
Didn't even get a handshake 😭
It's quite outstanding to see Shatner just sitting there listening instead of looking to be the center of attention.
He's completely out of his element.
@@BillPenny yeah he looks bored by the topic and under pressure not to hurt Wil's feelings again.
@@matthewbarker9134 At different times he looks bored, confused and defensive. He wasn't into it and Wil was speaking authentically about interesting things.
@@frederick2video I can't help but think of Wil's recounting of his awkward first meeting with Shatner, during a set visit when they were filming Star Trek VI. I wonder if Shatner read that and felt bad, or if he simply doesn't know.
@@matthewbarker9134 That's a good question. I would hope that if Shatner knew, he would feel at least a little bit bad about it. This is the thing about human beings. We can't know what is going on in each other's head. Sometimes we don't even understand what is going on in our own heads, lol! All we can go on is what we see them do and hear them say. In this case, it's hard to tell.
Shatner is a very focused person who has what I call 'a small plate'. He only can deal with a few things at once and anything outside of that is a distraction and an annoyance. It's not personal, its just all he can deal with at any one time. Some people have bigger plates and are more relaxed. In fact most artists have large plates and are unfocused, he is a very blue collar actor. That's why Bill was 'mean' to Will. He was working on a movie and all his attention was on that, he didn't have room on his plate for Will then. Its the same as the rest of the cast on TOS, he was the lead on a very chaotic show. Every episode was a struggle to get done good and fast and on budget and he didn't have room on his plate for people like Walter or George, he had a show to do and a family to take care of. Whereas Leonard had a much bigger plate and looked after his cast mates. Everyone has a different plate.
That's an interesting analogy. I wouldn't have thought to apply that to real life, normal everyday life for most people. You've now made me recognise that trait in many people I know. Thanks mate!
So basically what you're saying in a big paragraph is: Shatner is an asshole because he's kinda stupid. I agree lol... He's a stupid prick.
Wil didn't just blather onto Bill in the middle of a shoot, a common friend called him over. Bill lacked common courtesy and was very self absorbed, however you slice the reasons for it. There are many examples of this same behaviour with the TOS actors. Now its on them, and they all handled it differently. Takai took an approach where he took it VERY personal, and to this day lives with the memory of how Bill effed him over. The others each had their own tact, and Wil grew this into a relationship of sorts.
Good way to describe it: Shatner has a small plate. That is just how he is. I agree that most artists have large plates which is why fans may sometimes be shocked by what they see and hear in interviews with Shatner or other actors who talk about him. Having a small plate is a type of temperament, I suppose you could say, like having a short fuse. Some people can only handle so much and that is how it is.
Literally everything Will Wheaton says is total news to William Shatner. Meanwhile... I'm sort of falling in love with Will Wheaton all over again here...
2:00 LOL Shatner's look after Will mentions Sega genesis, like "WTF is that?"
What wil was describing about the serotonin sounds a lot like the TNG episode the game
Does Bill know that Wil refers to him as "William fu@#%#$ Shatner" lol.
I think he's used to it by now.
You can't make everybody happy even if you're polite and friendly all the time. It's just not worth the ulcer to worry about what people think all the time. Half the people on the planet just aren't worth worrying about. They're nasty clueless people who are only worried about number one. They're never going to acknowledge you or be friendly. I've been in enough jobs meeting different people to know that's true by now.
Plus, Shatner is an actor. This is a group of people who PRETEND to like each other.
I think it's a testament to Shatner's thick skin that he was able to take the epiphet "Shat" and turn it around into a nickname, "The Shat." You have to have balls and a healthy ego to do that.
I think Wil Wheaton is FAR from being there if I read him correctly.
Do you know how many people hate each other's guts in the acting community?!?!? I think the women are far cattier and nastier to each other than the men are in general but still...!
Yeah, I think if anybody's being hypocritical and self-serving here, it's Wil Wheaton.
I'm more split on how I feel about that guy. At times, I feel bad for him that he became known for playing Wesley Crusher, one of the most despised character in ST: TNG which is ironic considering Wesley was the stand-in persona for Gene Roddenberry who's virtually god to a bunch of Trek fans who should know better, but on the other hand he's said some stuff that's really, really beyond the pale and justifies some of the antagonistic feelings people have towards him.
With Shatner, I kind of know what to expect by now and probably would give him more of a pass. The guy is a bit off and VERY weird but he can also be damn entertaining and very, very interesting.
I really don't think the guy's an idiot, arrogant or not.
AvengerII TLDR
Thugastrike
Typical gamer... Illiterate and can't read past 3 seconds...
AvengerII You wrote 45 lines of crap lol.
Thugastrike
More than you can write on a Post-It Note... Stick to games, Kid... You don't have concentration for anything else!
Is there a full, unedited version of this anywhere? Two greats discussing great topics!
To seek out new games & new challenges, to boldy go where no Shatner has gone before.
Nice to see you two getting along, just poking fun but seriously!😉😂
This is adorable
There's a part of Shatner saying "Beam me up, somebody, please!".
WILLIAM FUCKING SHATNER! Great story....
I'd love to see Wheaton come back as Wesley crusher for the next generation sequel series coming as a Starfleet engineer on the enterprise
Dealing with someone who has game addiction right now, and it’s nothing short of unnerving. Plays Facebook 🎱 pool all day, everyday, much to the detriment of herself and any normal routine she used to have. She’s 39 years old, on disability, our parents are deceased, extended family wouldn’t care or do anything even if I did say something, and she sure as hell doesn’t listen to me! It’s not the quarantine either, because this started months before any of this ever happened. Game addiction is a real and potentially serious thing folks.
game addiction was set in tng episode "the game".
Yes ! With a very young Ashley Judd !
ball in cup
@@fluiypj Imagine it taking half a millennium for video games to peak at _Ball in Cup: The Game_
"There was this game in the 90s called Magic: The Gathering..."
Does he think it went away? It spiked in popularity in the mid 2000s and has held a consistent playerbase since then... FAR more than played it in the 90s.
he's talking about his experience and the time when games were not online
@@tracyroweauthor
I know what he was saying... I watch the video. But what he said was essentially incorrect.
@@marchofsaints if you need to be right that badly, that's ok
@@tracyroweauthor
Aww... Well that's so sweet of you. ☺
@@marchofsaints no problem
I am fascinated by people that get addicted to books. They read books for hours and hours a day!
He really IS Wesley Crusher! :)
Shatner is always compelling to watch.
Shatner has no idea wtf Wheaton is talking about.
Zero
Ron Brown I was just going to type the same words
Absolutely none.
Chris Hiles A well reasoned line of thinking.
At least he’s listening though. Not sure how a person in their mid eighties (at the time) is supposed to fully understand any of that super nerd talk. Lol
Shatner deserves an oscar for this lmfao
LOL I'm sure it took many takes
I was addicted to Everquest 2 for 15 years. Before that, I was addicted to Dark Age of Camelot, World of Warcraft, Everquest, and Lord of the Rings Online, among others. I knew these games were addicting before starting them so I can't blame the game developers for "hooking" me on their games. And while online gaming can easily addict a player, the same can be said for other types of games such as Word Search or the board-game version of D&D, which I also played.
You might like a mobile game called forgotten tales
Wil is just INSANELY patient with Shatner's ego
Ha, you are right. I think its the only way to retain any relationship with thim. Its worth it for him, so good.
Looks like Wheaton is still haunted by his tragic first meeting of Shatner, when Shatner treated him like dirt.
Yeah!!... Nah!!
That would suck, I've heard alot of stories about both but opposite in nature, what pray tell have you heard?🤔
I think Picard said it well....... Shut up wil. 👍
The production that WIl put around this first interaction I found amusing and was entertained. Now about "Real Life"? Wil has digested that first meeting, and it has morphed into something. Whatever it is, it works for him. I'm impressed that he just didnt leave Shatner in his rear view mirror, it says a lot about the guy..
William fucking Shatner
You can tell Shatner is like “ I don’t know WTF I am doing here, having to listen to this nerd kid talk about stupid crap that I couldn’t care less about”! LOL!
hwil hwheaton
Mind you, if this was shot 5 years ago, Shatner was 86, and looked and acted as sharp as a 60 year old. You can see him walking in with a 45 year old and you wouldn't bat an eye.
Wil, go to Spellslingers or Game Knights. That'd be awesome!
Wow, throughout the video William Shatner has his arms crossed. From what I understand about body language, it either means he needs comfort and is self hugging or it means he is crossing out what Wil is saying. I think it's interesting.
Michel Rail It can also mean that you are cold.
@@Rockshredder Humm, you are correct. He could be cold, but being a heavy person myself, I'm usually alway hot. Yeah, he could be cold. My bad.
Michel Rail No, you aren’t bad. You are probably correct with one of your two assumptions. I just gave a third possibility. I try to watch for body behaviour because it is usually more telling then what a person is saying.
@@Rockshredder His sleeves are rolled up. If he was cold, it would have helped if he rolled down his sleeves. I like Bill. But the way he treated Wil when he was yound and then Gene himself got Bill to apologize to Wil, I'm not sure, even after MANY years, he would be so open to collaborate with Wil. For sure there were $ involved here.
Michel Rail I didn’t watch the entire video. Funny I just watched today the video where Will is talking about fu**ing Shatner and what a jerk he was. I am sure you are right about money being involved or Bill might be trying to redeem himself. If he rolled up his sleeves, he might have been warm so likely there were the other reasons you mentioned to explain his non verbal behaviour.
So, what you're saying Wil is, It's life Jim, but not as we know it.
And Bill, Io does not have ice!
This is proof that Center actually likes Wil Wheaton despite what Will Wheaton thinks. Shannon would not do this video if he did not like you Wheaton.
BondFreek if only Center and Shannon rubbed off on Shatner...
wow 4 years later and the new Wheaton has not changed.....
Maybe I didn't dig deep enough, but I'm surprised I didn't see this in comments: memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/The_Game_(episode) Oh, this too: www.popsci.com/have-we-found-alien-life/
I bought someone's collection of probably a thousand+ Magic the Gathering cards off eBay. After actually getting it, I was like "Yeah, I'm not sorting through that shit just to become the next great Pokémon master."
Shatner turning purple wishing that Wheaton would ask him about "Judgement at Nuremburg" or "Alexander the Great".
Shatner's like, "Why did I invite this nerd onto my show?"
Didn't ST:TNG do an episode about an addictive game?
Richard LaPorte Yep. And it spotlighted Wesley (Will) and Ashley Judd.
Yes.. It was a really well written episode actually.. Come to think of it... The writers for ST: TNG really were amazing..!!
Haha yeah it was called the game
He talking about Tardigrades?
Wil Wheaton is just awesome .
Weird to see a video where Shatner is the quiet one.
You have to give Wil Wheaton credit. He is very smart.
Apparently they settled their differences. Good.
"Okay, this has been all for the day, thank you for being here Wil and thank you for watching guys"
"Thanks for having m..."
"SHUT UP, WESLEY!"
You know... the way this is shot, Shatner and Wheaton don't have to be in the same room when it's being recorded. They could record separately and do reactions without the other being in the room.
There's no long shot in this video that demonstrates they're in the same room at the same time, is there?
Did you actually watch the video?
And your point after THREE MONTHS?!?!?
Nitpick, nitpick, nitpick is your name.
That's the RUclips game!
Such a "pleasant community" of people!
+AvengerII What's your problem? I was just pointing out that you were incorrect. Calm down.
OH MY FUCKING GOD THEY'RE THE SAME PERSON 😮😳😱
It cuts two a shot of both of them multiple times -at least twice from my quick check.
That said, for the past 30+ years there's been technology available to display people asynchronously in the same shot. It's been used countless times for all sorts of things, and can even be easily done by amateurs these days.
My point being that even if they were shown together that doesn't mean that they _were_ together. There's no reason to believe that this wasn't a genuine conversation of the two together though.
what did that last part have to do with vidya
Single celled microbes take electricity and directly turn it into energy to sustain themselves
These microbes can exist in our video games, the vidya is alive
Wil Wheaton: "I have a friend"
Me: "Whoa good for you Wil"
Wil Wheaton: "I have another friend"
Me: "Let's not get crazy now Wil"
Ok why did Wil look so good here
A'cause he always does, of course.
It just looks like Wesley has been growing a mutant face Tribble on the science deck.
He's sitting next to Bill Shatner
I got addicted to Minion Rush.
Ah when the apprentice becomes the master... Shatner has absolutely no idea what Wil is talking about. 😅
Nice, people overcome their perception.
I wouldn't say they are friends now, are they?
0:55 "...1990's..."? Wil...open your window and smell the cards cause, it's still out there. (55 years old and still playing). You call it "the chase" (how Californian), we call it "pay to win". It's unpleasant and house rules needed to be made to make sure "fun" was the reason for playing. 02:15 Again, Wil, you have it backwards. You can't play with someone you don't know, you play against them. And playing with your friends is the only way to know if your values are close to being similar the theirs. So in essence you're testing them, and the result will be whether you ever play with them again, or not. Tell me Wil, do you ever play with those friends, still? 02:30 To all those who say/think Shatner is lost in this conversation i say "get a raise" and then go see ruclips.net/video/lIJLkWy7h1o/видео.html.
Super interesting. I wonder if wil has ever brought up the story about when bill was a dick to him when they first met. And how they both see that incident now that their older
Its funny I've watched the production Wil put together and I found it funny and I liked it a lot. Searching around, I never saw a face to face, nor heard of one where Wil confronts him. I don't think he ever does. Just guessing here but I think they just let it go.
There's an out-take of The Guild, Will is supposed to be playing a game and he says something like, I have no idea what I'm doing, I don't even play this stuff!
I though Shatner was seen as ‘literally Hitler’ by Wheaton types...
When is Sheldon gonna come to your show. (smartass here)
So, they're friends now?
Only if there's wine involved
This is fucking priceless the two most famous faces of Star Trek, the beloved Captain Kirk and the hated Wesley Crusher in a bar together.
Will, the chance for random collisions to form something like DNA or RNA was calculated by Crick to be 1 to 10^260. That means, no, there is no life on those other planets. Contact me if you want to discuss further.
Will just rambles on, Bill can't get a word in
Wil Wheaton is talking about Proteins on Mars and he's stumping Captain Kirk.
He quit MTG because it's Pay2Win, understandable...
@White Boy so... you pay money to increase your chance to win... aka pay2win
@White Boy so... you pay money to increase your chance to win... aka pay2win
Bill Shatner has NEVER liked Video Games... I remember back when he did voice work/acting work for Interplay's Star Trek games back in the 90s.. He really never liked it even back then... Some people just won't change their opinions... Not saying Shatner isn't a great guy.. He is.. A VERY great guy in my opinion.. But I don't think he has much respect for gamers lol
Using big words as a shield. No connection. Just one way "Wesley F*xing Crusher" monologue.
People who think to play mtg the best cards will always win, really don't know how to play. Don't know how it was back then but still.
It makes me sad that Will never talked about the Game here.
Plebchok That’s the first thing I thought of too when I saw this interview was that episode. Yet another example of an eerie Star Trek prediction, huh? They sure as hell called that one!!
you know how ricky gervais said movie/tv stars should not educate people on life...well they aren't qualified to discuss science either...will wheaton takes forever to say nothing and shatner is clueless...beam them back now, energise
Shatman's just sitting there slackjawed.
so now they buddies lmao
Shatner has no idea he had humiliated Wheaton many years when Wheaton introduce himself to him on the Star Trek TNG set
According to Wheaton's audiobook ("Dancing Barefoot") he did, because he made some sort of an apology.
Will is a charming person who knows a lot, but knows that there is SO much more to learn.
Shatner is a jerk who seems to feel like he has to pretend to know a lot more than he does.
Yes, that is my impression too. That is why I wonder how this talk might have gone down if he were to have it with another Star Trek actor.
Weaselly Crusher.....lol
Arms crossed equals uncomfortable.
"WFS" .... doesn't have a clue ... unless he's looking up the south end of a north bound horse ... (and he's got plenty of horses to practice on!)
Why does it look like WS is about to take a nap
Well at the time of this clip, he was 84. He's now 89. That's normal for that age group (and even decades younger). Also, if they actually had any wine (given its called the 'Brown Bag Wine Tasting' extra) that will have sped up the process 👍
Want to learn how to ride a horse (properly) without falling off and suffering concussion. From Bill. "Stand By Me" is a classic movie due to Will. Go figure. Just a generation gap here folks. Not a pun on later movie btw..... different times eh.
I thought Wil Wheaton hates Shatner.
NOT WILL FUCKING WHETON.
Soy destroys nations (and Star Trek apparently).
I thought they hated each other???
Geez what a train wreck. Wheaton blathering on like a 12 year old about video games and Shatner politely trying to act interested. Does this kid ever shut up?
Will's beard is a major fail...
Did Shatner apologise to Will Wheaton for being mean to him when Will was 16?
Shatner trying to look interested.
Wheaton attempting to appear as a deep thinker.
Too painful to watch.
Why... just... WHYYYY?
And ole Wil is a atheist. You can have him.
Talking to an 80 year old about video games seems illogical.
Wheaton shave off that Al Qaeda beard.
William f*cking shatner.