Yep, someone who has never played in a WNBA game grew the WNBA, and the greatest rookie in WNBA history had nothing to do with growing the WNBA. Makes perfect sense.
I mean the league literally had Paige at a bunch of events, obviously Caitlin grew the game but Paige literally was the blueprint for this new generation of players
This is the only answer. It is so funny how the old guard feels threatened when someone outside of their elite program circle does something they could not. UCONN women's basketball could only take woman's basketball so far, it took an Iowa grad to take it to the next level.
As someone who lives in Phoenix, the home of Diana Tarausi and Brittney Griner, I can easily say that the last game I went to was about 5 years ago. It was at ASU , which could probably hold about 15,000 plus people and there were probably a thousand people there. It made me so embarrassed just to be there. I never heard of Paige Buecker's until I watched and returned to the WNBA because of Caitlin Clark. America is so big and so diverse. Nobody was paying attention to women's basketball who wasn't in some way involved with basketball either through their kids or their own personal background. We all just kind of gave up on it. We need to stop giving the mic to Sue Bird. I don't need to hear her biased revisionist history of the game from her perspective that is not reality.
@@michaelherndon9172 I’m most definitely a new fan. That’s how this sport will grow…not from the same people buying more subscriptions. We shouldn’t be an unwelcome phrase to this league, we should be welcomed. Where have we heard that before? Same thing people are saying about how CC should have been received. 99% of the new fans getting eyes on this sport are happy, friendly and loud. Many are 13 yr old girls. Welcome us and watch this sport continue to grow. :-)
Paige had WAY more hype than Caitlin or any other female player entering college ball. Yall don't know because you started following the train with Caitlin but Paige created major changes. She had SO MUCH HYPE. Yall cannot begin to comprehend her impact. She started the wave Caitlin rode on.
@@ThePattymom8 Funny how Geno and his brood marginalized CC's college career and her early accomplishments before CC entered the league. Now Paige in High School is the greatest thing since liver sausage. I hope team around CC take note of these snakes and be aware that in the end they will try to put her down.
Sue bird is hurting her girlfriend with CC because she has an investment in unrivaled. Not smart thing SUE. These young players coming in the WNBA are already millionaires with NIL. Most money for them when they get raised in 2026. When the mean old players retire, it will be nice to see that going over board physically. Hopefully the commish will be gone also and replaced with WNBA/NBA experience
The thing about CC that makes her legendary is that she didnt go to Ucon, she went to a smaller program and lifted it up which is alot more difficult than going to Ucon with other 5 star recruits. Caitlin did it the right way and the more challenging way thats why people have mad respect for her, oh and she shoots better and passes better than any woman to ever play the game.
This is the thing that Sue who is from New York state is missing. Caitlin big fish in small pond approach is a big reason for her popularity. Paige has other privileges that CC doesn't have and may make her appeal to a certain demographic.
CC wanted to go to UConn but coach already commuted to Paige. Paige was the #1 player coming out of hs. IF CC went to UConn she probably never becomes the player she is. He would have never let her take those shots. CC was allowed to play her style at Iowa and the long 3’s were not a part of her style initially. It all worked out. Remember CC is a unicorn. Her play style is unlike any other player to play girl’s ball.
I'm one of the new fans drawn to the game by Caitlin Clark. I'd never heard of Paige Bueckers until _after_ watching Caitlin Clark on the Fever. I couldn't give two craps about the WNBA or any female basketball player prior to watching Caitlin Clark this year. If it wasn't for Caitlin Clark, I still wouldn't be watching the WNBA.
A www that's nice another Caton Clark fan that jumped on the bandwagon if you don't know page or know about page you're not a basketball person or women's you jumped on the bandwagon like everybody else fool didn't follow her through college didn't follow her all the way to four years at Iowa probably just found out right now Indiana Fever another troll have you been to a game until then you're not a fan my merchandise and clicking on the TV doesn't make you a cake and Clark fan you just got to the pool and everybody been in it for 4 years
@@MarkHarper-ek8ssso what? most basketball fans around the world didn’t know anything about women basketball. WNBA was used as a joke in standup comedy. Nobody outside the US knew anything about the W. Until CC came out. Now we know. And that’s the point.
@@MarkHarper-ek8ss You are a troll yourself and just can’t accept that newer fans have the same rights as you and knowledge of the game or duration of your fandom does not give you any priorities of any sort over them. It doesn’t matter if they don’t have the same beliefs as you. You can engage them and share your beliefs in hopes that they will eventually share them in a respectful manner but since you think you are above them you don’t seem to be able to carry a conversation in a constructive and respectful manner. The other thing you don’t seem to respect anyone the way you write Caitlin’s name clearly pegs you as a h@ter it cannot be any clearer and you seem to like Paige but can’t ever write her name right. I don’t know if you are very young but the way you behave online clearly shows signs of immaturity and reckless behaviours
@@MarkHarper-ek8ss Do you mean the tiny, inflatable kid's pool that the WNBA was until Caitlin turned it into an ocean of fans? If the women of the WNBA were so awesome, where were the fans before Caitlin showed up? As soon as Caitlin wasn't playing anymore in the playoffs, the ratings for the rest of the games plummeted fast and hard. Now, more people are watching Caitlin play golf than people who were watching the final game of the playoffs.
@@MarkHarper-ek8ss For someone who calls himself a fan, I think it's pretty funny that you don't even know how to correctly spell "Caitlin" or "Paige" You might not want to make fun of us new fans that DO know how to spell their newfound favorite player's names.
Everything CC is doing right now she was doing it as a Freshman in High School. She was doing full court passes, step back 3's, side step 3's, 25+foot 3's and push off 3's with the shoulder and hand. Videos are on YT showing this. PB was also good. Committing to UCONN carries a lot more weight than Iowa. Only as Freshman in HS did Paige outscore CC. The other 7 years it was CC and it was not close. For some reason, CC has been cast aside from any recognition.
Yes, like they said she was hyped in college, but if she'd gone anywhere else, Bird would not mention her at all. That's the difference. If she went to SC or LSU, or anywhere else, she'd just be another player and whichever best player played at UConn right now would be the reason for the growth.
@@yes350yes The sad thing is she could easily do 15/7/5 which would be good enough for rookie of the year most likely but people may end up calling her a bust because she's not going to match the greatest WNBA season for a rookie that was put up by CC.
Has nothing to do with espn. ESPN is a news media. And that media has shareholders and ratings. They create controversy, so that people like you post exactly what you just did. Which boosts ratings. Why the fuck people can't keep ESPN out of their mouths is just baffling to me. You do realize that this only helps their cause. Either way, it's all about the oligarchy and the tribalism. Either you come from a big name school with stacked rosters, or you're a nobody. That's how these people think. Too bad for them that they don't have the numbers, or the money
Starting to wonder if the "WNBA/ESPN Slanted Bias" is more about where you went to college at. Starting to think that they refuse to believe such a great talent came from U of Iowa...not UConn, not LSU, not TN, and not S.Carolina. Geno will never admit he made a huge mistake picking Paige over Caitlin. Personally, us Iowans say thank you for keeping our girl at home and you didn't deserve her anyway. Coach Bluder and Jansen were great for her. CC is the complete and total package on and off the court. You have to be both to catch people's admiration and attention.
paige was not even top 5 in any major statictical categories on her freshman year..caitlin was 3rd in assist 2nd in 3pointers made and top in scoring...paige got her freshman trophies coz of politics !!!
Clarks gonna make all these women eat crow.! What is wrong with all people/ haters of her.?? So these girl are breaking clarks records in school. How can they keep fooling themselfs. Just refuse to give her props even though the stats say it all.🤬
There is no rivalry. Bueckers has already capitulated to the WNBA cartel. Clark shows no interest in doing that. Paige does not hsve the fortitude that Caitlin does. Can you imagine Jordan begging the lunies in the WNBA for forgiveness?
Paige is older than Caitlin. Maybe thats the ONLY reason Sue heard about her first. Paige has brought nothing to the WNBA because she hasnt played in it yet 😂😂
Sorry to disagree but they are the same age and hit College the same year. Even though I would want to disagree with Sue Bird on a very fallacious argument on her part. I just can’t let you misinform the readers by inserting a fallacious argument of your own that you could have easily avoided by googling the infos on both players. Please let those kind of dumb mistakes to someone like Sheryl Swoopes.
@@michelleblanc6377they aren’t the same age. Sure for a couple of months maybe. Paige’s bday is Oct. 20, 2001. Caitlin’s bday is Jan. 22, 2002. Maybe you should do your research also.
@@michelleblanc6377 like I said...Paige is older. I never said Paige started college before Caitlin. All I said was Paige was older than Caitlin and that information is correct. I didn't put anything out there that was wrong
@CaitlinClark22andWillThrill22 Kobe Bryant mamba stamp of approval was too a factor. She was (outside of his daughter) the last protégé he would tragically have.
Paige is a great player. She’s still playing in college and hasn’t played in one WNBA game. I think when she finally does when she’s 25, she’ll be good but she won’t be a game changer. Clark is.
I personally think Paige has had minimal effect on the growth of the WNBA because she's never even played a WNBA game and she might not for another year. Most people have no idea who she is. Fun fact the WNBA lost 40 million this year so they still aren't even self sufficient.
Pb was just more visible in high school then Caitlin was because she played at a bigger school in a more populated place in Minnesota and it certainly helped that she committed to uconn. Cc played at a small school with a tiny gym in the middle of iowa so she easily flew under most people's radar. If you go back and watch cc in high school it is no surprise the type of player she turned out to be. Even kevin Durant has talked about seeing cc at a aau tournament and having no idea who she was and said it was crazy that somebody that good was not more well known.
These old WNBA players are so full of themselves. I never heard of Sue Bird until I started to watch the WNBA because of Clark. A'ja Wilson. Who?! Same with the rest of them. Get rid of the old guard and maybe the league can start acting like a professional sports representative. Right now they are a joke. I give them absolutely no respect. As for PG? Never heard of her. She's put herself into a position where she now has to step up when she does come to play in the W. And I would think less of her if she postponed going into the WNBA to avoid playing in Dallas. Her immaturity is glaringly obvious. Make us a believer!
Paige is an excellent player, but has never equaled Clark's number, not even close. To be honest, I wouldn't draft her first. There are other players who will probably contribute just as much, and for longer than Paige. This kind of behavior from current and past players, however, makes me not want to watch their trash basketball. I'll watch CC, because she's exciting.
She’s talking about High School and the following that Paige had even then. She saw the future of the W but it turned out to be CC. Aside from CC there’s only a handful of players that play at her level, and by level, I mean being able to get her own shot to set her teammates for easy scores to run a fast break offense to rival Magic and Nash. So I don’t see the beautiful game that Bird sees. CC brings that.
This discussion is just mental, as someone who watched Sue Bird in college. The WNBA is BORING. Caitlyn pulled 35-footers on social media. I tuned in for the spectacle and stayed to watch the rest of the ladies. Asia is way better than Caitlyn, and she is BORING. If you are a die-hard fan, I can see you not getting this. Non-WNBA fans want to see something that they cannot do. Toby Fournier when she starts routinely dunking will be more popular than Paige. Mark my words. We want spectacle. Women who cannot dunk, or routinely miss layups is BORING.
I keep fantasizing that Caitlin will add dunking to her game during the off season. Caitlin is only 6 feet tall, so it's not going to happen, but it's still fun to fantasize about!
Ok, when Paige gets to the WNBA, let's see how many records she breaks being guarded 94 ' every play and being doubled and triple teamed. As these women in the league say I don't think she will handle the physical part.
Yep, she looks like a superstar playing against 18 year olds. But she is going to be playing against grown women who have played pro ball for a long time /s
SB and PB are both in the Uconn club. Not surprised she is backing her. Those sold out game from early 2000's were with buy 1 get 5 free tickets and the one was like 10$. PB is a start and started it but CC took it to another level. If PB could have stayed healthy she might have been bigger than CC. UConn not taking CC was a huge gift for her to shine at Iowa as batman. Instead of PB playing with the justice league at uconn and just fitting in.
Media is trying to make this something it’s not. Caitlin lets her game speak for her. Sue is an idiot. Sue is becoming irrelevant. Just makes stuff up to further her podcast.
If Paige Bueckers gets a bad injury again, she may just turn into another player who never reached her potential because of injuries. Bueckers isn't creating the buzz at Uconn like Clark did at Iowa. Where are all Bueckers' fans telling everyone how Bueckers is going to set the WNBA on fire in her rookie year?
That's the part that they say out loud, yet they still somehow miss the point. When Clark joined the WNBA, they compared her to the WNBA all time greats. When Paige joins the WNBA, they will compare her to Caitlin Clark.
Paige in HS was big for the small niche audience following basketball closely. Another Candace Parker or Sue Bird. But Caitlin brought millions of fans to the game and is only comparable to people like Tiger Woods. 99% of the credit for the growth in women’s basketball goes to Clark. Bird is a UConn homer. It’s part of the new effort to take down Clark and elevate anyone else they can. Angel Reese, JuJu, Paige et al. But it won’t work as the average fan never heard of them and is not blown away by their game the way they are by Caitlin. Why can’t people just be honest and give Caitlin her credit? It shouldn’t be this hard and devious.
I don't think what Bird said was a slight to Caitlin, but more of how Paige was getting a lot of attention even in high school which was almost unprecedented. Paige also got a lot of media her freshman year, compared to anyone else. But most of the Paige attention was mostly in more hardcore basketball circles. But then Caitlin came in and completely blew the roof off the game her last 2 years in college and brought it mainstream.
@@matthewlee4697 she grew the WNBA more in one season than any growth they've ever seen. It didn't grow leaps and bounds the year before she joined. But the year she joined it grew to ridiculous heights. Literally if they grew at their previous rate, they'd hit the CC effect more than a decade down the line. So yeah, it's 90+% CC that grew the league.
@@matthewlee4697 I never heard a single person claim that Caitlin did anything to grow the public's interest in the WNBA before she arrived at the WNBA. The talk about her helping the WNBA grow began AFTER she arrived in the WNBA and millions of people started going to games and watching games on TV to watch her play. Track the chronology of public-interest. When she played in college and people started talking about how talented she was, new people started watching women's college basket to see what the talk was about. She caused a giant spike in the public's interest in women's college-basketball, and that caused people to speculate about how much of an interest-impact she'd be if she played in the WNBA. When Caitlin started playing in the WNBA she brought her fans with her. She also brought a constantly-growing stream of new fans who'd become curious about what all the talk was about. The more people watched and talked about how incredible she was, the more new, curious people started showing up to games and watching on TV. Whereas interest in other teams grew slowly, people were falling over themselves to watch the Fever play because they wanted to see Caitlin's skills on the court. Ratings for Fever games soared when the games were televised. When the Fever played away games, there were times that other teams had to move their games to larger stadiums because Caitlin was coming to town and tickets for the smaller stadiums were selling out and people still demanding to see Caitlin play. When Caitlin started shattering rookie-records and creating new rookie-records, and NBA players started talking about how incredible she was, the floodgates of new curious people opened and the "Caitlin Clark Effect" about viewership and attendance escalated. The moment that the Fever were out of the playoffs and Caitlin wouldn't be playing anymore, viewership of the playoff games plummeted hard and fast. The same "Caitlin Clark Effect" happened when Caitlin decided to play women's golf during the off-season until the WNBA started their season again. Attendance at LPGA events and TV-viewership skyrocketed. Whenever Caitlin plays in a sport, the public's interest in that sport increases. Whereas players in the WNBA hated on Caitlin, the women of the LPGA have been excited and happy to have Caitlin playing with them. Caitlin played softball, volleyball, soccer, tennis, and golf as a child, played soccer and basketball in high school, and focused on playing basketball in college. Shes probably the most well-rounded female athlete in the world. No matter what sport she chooses to play, you can bet the bank that people will want to see her doing it. She's such an incredible athlete and so fun to watch that she could enter a ping-pong tournament and people would flock to see how she does in the competition.
If she said this then Sue Bird is no dead to Caitlin fans, and hopefully she’ll no longer respect her by not going for her records. Paige did have the early buzz but she got injured and if Clark wasn’t there to pick up the pieces women’s basketball would have fallen in to obscurity again.
What the ef is wrong with these women? There is only one Superstar and its CC, thats just how it is. Paige, Aja, Reese, Juju or anyone else is not selling out away games at all and they never will.
@@lessonica4619 shes literally more efficicent, better defender, well rounded and overall player and way less turnovers. Who gives a fuck about points scored if you just give them all right back by handing the ball over to the other team every couple plays
@@JohnJohn-fe6yc So you're saying Paige will have a better rookie year than Clark, especially if she goes to Dallas with stars like Arike and Satou. Wanna put money on that?
Many overlook the full impact of Caitlin Clark. People may follow an individual for a variety of reasons, not all related to basketball. However, Clark's playing style not only boosts her own performance but also elevates her teammates, attracting some fans. For others, it's her interaction with fans and the public, along with her intelligence and communication skills, that appeal. The essence is that being a basketball star isn't just about skill in the game; it's about embodying qualities that make a once-in-a-lifetime star. Caitlin Clark will do more for the WMBA if the WMBA can get out of the way and let it happen!
If CC22 did not indulged in so many sports ( baseball / softball, Soccer, volleyball ,golf) during her youth and just played only basketball she could have been very good in basketball during 1st year in high school ..
Reminds me of the WWF in the mid 90s, Bueckers was Shawn Michaels -- not been able to live up to the hype, while CC has gone on to become "Stone Cold" Steve Austin.
@quasarrad1464 not smelling it cause Dwayne, although he became the other huge superstar in that era, it was Austin who saved Vince McMahon's ass from going out of business. That's what CC is, whether they like it or not, women's basketball savior.
As Clark said at a presser after a sky game.Its all you people who are calling this a rivalry.Clark dosnt see rivalrys.Its people like yourself that keep pushing this narrative.Clark is going to blitz them next year Paige will have average season
How in the world did Paige Bueckers grow the WNBA? Paige Bueckers is still in college, she is not a WNBA players yet. Caitlin Clark is the big buzz because until just recently I never heard of Paige Bueckers and she had a game on last weekend not sure when it but I never watched her game. Inever even gave a thought of the WNBA until last season when Caitlin Clark was drafted and played her grouling season. I only watch the WNBA because of Caitlin Clark and only Caitlin Clark. Paige Bueckers is not in the WNBA yet and I can't stand hearing about her just like LeBron. That level of annoying. We'll see how many games Paige sells out on the road we know Caitlin will sell out both home and road. Caitlin Clark is the box office. Caitlin has a bigger fan base.
Why the hell are they so hell-bent on creating rivalry? Do they just not have anything to talk about? Or do they just not care about the bloody sport? Edit: and one more thing. I would never heard of Paige if not for Caitlin
These takes from athletes keep getting dumber and dumber. We will all be better off when they just acknowledge the fact that Caitlin Clark is one of one and women's basketball has never had anything like her. She's the only basketball player in the world that significantly moves the needle when she plays right now
Mick again mentions High School Paige. Dude, move off it.. Paige isn’t in high school anymore.. yes she had hype then, but she disappeared cuz she got injured.. but it wasn’t like she was gonna break the scoring record or be an assist leader or anything like that.. just based on the seasons she’s had.. yes she’s miss efficiency, but her games changed completely..
We certainly and justifiably give Caitlin credit and recognition. Our recognition can include what CC recognizes -- that her very desire to be the great basketball player she is began with the love of the sport engendered in her by people like Sue Bird. This is not a zero sum game. Everybody actually counts. CC, as much as we love and value her, did not spring full grown from the head of Zeus. The WNBA is good at making enemies and pitting people against each other. We are not, or at least don't have to be, the WNBA.
Mick please quit having Sue Bird on your channel. She seems to always down play Caitlin Clark's generational college career, and her simply unbelievable and historical WNBA rookie season. I don't want to hear anything more from her.
@MickTalksHoops high school senior year CC ended up with average 33 points. Paige ended at 21. And l don't think that it's necessary to compare college at this point. The first year, Paige got the recognition, Caitlin got the best stats.
Paige Bueckers wasn’t always number one; they went back and forth through high school who was ranked 1st. And Sue specifically said Paige started the growth, but then Caitlin took it to an insane never before seen level
Saying Paige is the better player is dumb. We measure individual players by their stats. Let's compare Paige and Caitlin's college stats... Suddenly no one wants to talk about it. Remind me again who holds most of the stat records for women's college ball? And anyone claiming that Paige will be more popular isn't really understand of America. Paige will be popular with people in "those groups". But in mainstream Paige will be mocked.
If you really have an issue with it, click the three dots and choose “don’t recommend this channel,” and stop taking up our comment space with your boo-who complaints.
Crazy how someone who hasnt even played in the league has done more for the league than the player who has sold out every single game shes played in, brought a bottom team to the playoffs while breaking multiple all time Wnba records and whos merch sells out in minutes every single time.
I started paying attention to Paige her freshman year, of course she got hurt her sophomore year and I started watching CC. Part of what I see in this debate about who’s better is, CC was not surrounded by some of the best high school recruits, therefore she was allowed much more freedom in her style of playing. Paige on the other hand had much more talent around her and was not given the same freedom. Sue once said they were not allowed to shoot 3’s like CC did. Because of the freedom CC was given and the talent she has, in my opinion, her game is much more exciting. Paige is a great player in her own right, but they both play a very different style of basketball. Would it be possible to ignore the media’s attempt to tell us that every great player coming up is as good or better than CC. Let them come to the league, we will make that decision for ourselves. What extra pressure has been added to the players, I’m supposed to be the next CC, sure no pressure.
This is going to be the difference. Paige will be a "system" guard because Geno has beaten all the style and flair out of her, so she'll have to get it back in the league. CC has a style and flair and nothing is off limits because Bluder let her grow and play to her strengths. Geno has all his players play to his style. He's a dinosaur.
"Let them come to the league, we will make that decision for ourselves." Exactamundo! And if there are players as good or better than Caitlin, all the better for all of us. The quality of the basketball will be fantastic, and we can still be fans of CC22 and argue about whether she's better than Paige, Juju, Hannah (Hidalgo) which is, after all, part of the fun of sports fandom. It won't sting then like it does now because Caitlin will be established, and we won't be having to deal with sour-faced ex- veterans who want to piss on players who don't meet their personal criteria.
A mistake that people make is thinking that talent is what equates to greatness or popularity as a player. But it is not always true, or at least the deciding factor. I do not think there has ever been a power forward with more talent than Tim Duncan. But Larry Bird was more fun to watch. I think the reason that Wilt Chamberlain gets the nod by so many people over Bill Russell is that he had way more flash to his game. Caitlin Clark is not the best player in the WNBA, that is A'ja, but I would much rather watch Caitlin Clark. I think that Paige Bueckers will have Angel Reese level of popularity in the WNBA, which is a lot, but not Caitlin Clark level. I have not see her in the pros yet, so maybe things will change, but I would rather watch Arike play than Paige because (for me) Arike is more fun to watch. And who is the most fun to watch in the WNBA? Caitlin Clark. And I would rather watch Paige than A'ja because she is more fun to watch (I only saw a few games, so that may change). The NBA has always been like that. We want to see Dr. J and Elgin Baylor and other players that have sizzle in their games. Now, I use Tim Duncan as an example of a game with less sizzle. But he was still fun to watch. Just not as much fun as Magic Johnson or Michael Jordan or other players who make you oooh and aaah when you watch. Same goes for A'ja. I like to watch her play. I just prefer other players who are more fun to watch. Sure, it's sports and winning is very important. But it is also entertainment and fun is even more important because we want to be entertained.
I remember seeing NBA players like Kareem Abul JUabbar (Lou Alcinder), Larry Bird, Carl Malone, Wilt Chamberlain, Bill Russell and Jerry West. Sue Bird wasn't even born until 1980 and I thought she was a gymnast after hearing her name. It never occurred to me that the WNBA was a professional basketball organization, and never watched a WNBA game on TV until this year when the Fever played.
I’ve never liked UConn, never liked Geno, and I really don’t like how all the old UConn players keep pushing Paige. I’d really like to see Paige do something in the WNBA before everyone starts proclaiming her to be as good or better than Caitlin. It gets old listening to the ESPN girls and the old players talk about the league being in good shape before Caitlin came, when the attendance and viewer numbers tell a different story.
Only one women's basketball player has made money for College or the WNBA and it isn't Paige or any of the other UCONN players past and present. Only CC has sold out home and away games in College and the WNBA. What are Paige's tv ratings when UCONN plays.
People keep talking about Paige in high school she is not in high school anymore like CC is the one cause this ain’t no hype it’s REAL numbers don’t lie
So by saying geno made Paige a different player, less exciting, would help ya understand why geno is in love with the style of play in the WNBA by teams who aren’t the fever.
Yes paige got a ton of buzz early on in her ncaa career. Yet i have a feeling that she is going to struggle in the W. She definitely will not have the rookie season CC had.
Just stop. Stop using the word "rivalry" when talking about Bueckers and Clark. You're starting to sound like all the media a-holes who tried to make Clark and Reese into a rivalry, even though that was all on one side.
Yep, someone who has never played in a WNBA game grew the WNBA, and the greatest rookie in WNBA history had nothing to do with growing the WNBA. Makes perfect sense.
Testing a response to see if Paige could be an Unrivaled Mystery player?
I mean the league literally had Paige at a bunch of events, obviously Caitlin grew the game but Paige literally was the blueprint for this new generation of players
Obviously
@georgia_amoorefan yeah, CC entered the WNBA first than the blueprint😂😂😂.
@@georgia_amoorefan bullshit
Sue went to UConn and that’s all you need to know.
UConn really has a terrible influence on the W
This is the only answer. It is so funny how the old guard feels threatened when someone outside of their elite program circle does something they could not. UCONN women's basketball could only take woman's basketball so far, it took an Iowa grad to take it to the next level.
@@quasarrad1464and the leader is Geno the dummy.
Total agreement.ewconn women are insufferable.
@@dacollector4452 it’s like a cult of sorts.
As someone who lives in Phoenix, the home of Diana Tarausi and Brittney Griner, I can easily say that the last game I went to was about 5 years ago. It was at ASU , which could probably hold about 15,000 plus people and there were probably a thousand people there. It made me so embarrassed just to be there.
I never heard of Paige Buecker's until I watched and returned to the WNBA because of Caitlin Clark. America is so big and so diverse. Nobody was paying attention to women's basketball who wasn't in some way involved with basketball either through their kids or their own personal background. We all just kind of gave up on it.
We need to stop giving the mic to Sue Bird. I don't need to hear her biased revisionist history of the game from her perspective that is not reality.
i can tell you i live in Connecticut. and NEVER GAVE A SHIT ABOUT THESE WOMAN. CC COMES AND I CANT GET ENOUGH...never went, never watched never CARED!
Arena football has a reputation for failing.
I’ve never heard of any of these women in NCAA or WNBA, including Sue Bird, until Caitlin Clark came along.
Then you a new fan
Private club vibes!
@@michaelherndon917299% of wnba fans are new😂
@@michaelherndon9172 I’m most definitely a new fan. That’s how this sport will grow…not from the same people buying more subscriptions. We shouldn’t be an unwelcome phrase to this league, we should be welcomed. Where have we heard that before? Same thing people are saying about how CC should have been received. 99% of the new fans getting eyes on this sport are happy, friendly and loud. Many are 13 yr old girls. Welcome us and watch this sport continue to grow. :-)
Paige had WAY more hype than Caitlin or any other female player entering college ball. Yall don't know because you started following the train with Caitlin but Paige created major changes. She had SO MUCH HYPE. Yall cannot begin to comprehend her impact. She started the wave Caitlin rode on.
Sue is becoming as crazy as her girlfriend...not terribly shocking
Yes, back to the UConn lock step meme. Paige …..
yep she s just as crusty as Rapi just doesnt let it show . what they gonna do if CC says she s lesiban?
@@ThePattymom8 Funny how Geno and his brood marginalized CC's college career and her early accomplishments before CC entered the league. Now Paige in High School is the greatest thing since liver sausage. I hope team around CC take note of these snakes and be aware that in the end they will try to put her down.
It’s too bad. It’s the toxic red dye.
Sue bird is hurting her girlfriend with CC because she has an investment in unrivaled. Not smart thing SUE. These young players coming in the WNBA are already millionaires with NIL. Most money for them when they get raised in 2026. When the mean old players retire, it will be nice to see that going over board physically. Hopefully the commish will be gone also and replaced with WNBA/NBA experience
The thing about CC that makes her legendary is that she didnt go to Ucon, she went to a smaller program and lifted it up which is alot more difficult than going to Ucon with other 5 star recruits. Caitlin did it the right way and the more challenging way thats why people have mad respect for her, oh and she shoots better and passes better than any woman to ever play the game.
This is the thing that Sue who is from New York state is missing. Caitlin big fish in small pond approach is a big reason for her popularity. Paige has other privileges that CC doesn't have and may make her appeal to a certain demographic.
CC wanted to go to UConn but coach already commuted to Paige. Paige was the #1 player coming out of hs. IF CC went to UConn she probably never becomes the player she is. He would have never let her take those shots. CC was allowed to play her style at Iowa and the long 3’s were not a part of her style initially. It all worked out. Remember CC is a unicorn. Her play style is unlike any other player to play girl’s ball.
@@ajibolavincent5496HUSTLE!!!!
I guess any guy going to duke or Kentucky isn’t doing it the right way???
@@JROB447they aren’t doing it the more challenging way
I'm one of the new fans drawn to the game by Caitlin Clark. I'd never heard of Paige Bueckers until _after_ watching Caitlin Clark on the Fever. I couldn't give two craps about the WNBA or any female basketball player prior to watching Caitlin Clark this year. If it wasn't for Caitlin Clark, I still wouldn't be watching the WNBA.
A www that's nice another Caton Clark fan that jumped on the bandwagon if you don't know page or know about page you're not a basketball person or women's you jumped on the bandwagon like everybody else fool didn't follow her through college didn't follow her all the way to four years at Iowa probably just found out right now Indiana Fever another troll have you been to a game until then you're not a fan my merchandise and clicking on the TV doesn't make you a cake and Clark fan you just got to the pool and everybody been in it for 4 years
@@MarkHarper-ek8ssso what? most basketball fans around the world didn’t know anything about women basketball. WNBA was used as a joke in standup comedy. Nobody outside the US knew anything about the W.
Until CC came out.
Now we know. And that’s the point.
@@MarkHarper-ek8ss You are a troll yourself and just can’t accept that newer fans have the same rights as you and knowledge of the game or duration of your fandom does not give you any priorities of any sort over them. It doesn’t matter if they don’t have the same beliefs as you. You can engage them and share your beliefs in hopes that they will eventually share them in a respectful manner but since you think you are above them you don’t seem to be able to carry a conversation in a constructive and respectful manner. The other thing you don’t seem to respect anyone the way you write Caitlin’s name clearly pegs you as a h@ter it cannot be any clearer and you seem to like Paige but can’t ever write her name right. I don’t know if you are very young but the way you behave online clearly shows signs of immaturity and reckless behaviours
@@MarkHarper-ek8ss Do you mean the tiny, inflatable kid's pool that the WNBA was until Caitlin turned it into an ocean of fans? If the women of the WNBA were so awesome, where were the fans before Caitlin showed up? As soon as Caitlin wasn't playing anymore in the playoffs, the ratings for the rest of the games plummeted fast and hard. Now, more people are watching Caitlin play golf than people who were watching the final game of the playoffs.
@@MarkHarper-ek8ss For someone who calls himself a fan, I think it's pretty funny that you don't even know how to correctly spell "Caitlin" or "Paige" You might not want to make fun of us new fans that DO know how to spell their newfound favorite player's names.
I must have missed the wnba game Paige played in. I paid and flew to see CC. These people are insufferable
Everything CC is doing right now she was doing it as a Freshman in High School. She was doing full court passes, step back 3's, side step 3's, 25+foot 3's and push off 3's with the shoulder and hand. Videos are on YT showing this. PB was also good. Committing to UCONN carries a lot more weight than Iowa. Only as Freshman in HS did Paige outscore CC. The other 7 years it was CC and it was not close. For some reason, CC has been cast aside from any recognition.
Her fans have her.
Would Paige have as much hype if she wasn't at Uconn?
Yes, like they said she was hyped in college, but if she'd gone anywhere else, Bird would not mention her at all. That's the difference. If she went to SC or LSU, or anywhere else, she'd just be another player and whichever best player played at UConn right now would be the reason for the growth.
Yes tf? She was on slam magazine in high school and had NBA players at her games. What are we even talking about?
No
Good night these women refuse to give her any credit. Absolutely insane!
They are giving her credit. Ur js watching the videos of the times when they arent lmao
They can’t give others credit too
It’s called the UCONN bias bs that’s why I don’t think Paige will not bring in near the buzz as CC22
How will Paige standup against WNBA pressure, not very well is my guess. She is a walking injury.
@@yes350yesNah I think she’ll do fine, I don’t attribute past injuries to readiness, I do think she’s tough enough to take it.
The UConn bias is prevalent, there are very few UConn alums who haven’t been total elitist snobs AND anti Hawkeye… it’s gross
@@yes350yes The sad thing is she could easily do 15/7/5 which would be good enough for rookie of the year most likely but people may end up calling her a bust because she's not going to match the greatest WNBA season for a rookie that was put up by CC.
Sigh, Sue has sold her soul to the espn/wnba gods.
To the ⚫️
Has nothing to do with espn. ESPN is a news media. And that media has shareholders and ratings. They create controversy, so that people like you post exactly what you just did. Which boosts ratings. Why the fuck people can't keep ESPN out of their mouths is just baffling to me. You do realize that this only helps their cause. Either way, it's all about the oligarchy and the tribalism. Either you come from a big name school with stacked rosters, or you're a nobody. That's how these people think. Too bad for them that they don't have the numbers, or the money
False idols.
@@Rondigity92you’re a weirdo
Sue Bird and Paige are both part of the LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ&&^^$%%$$@^$&* community...
Never heard of Paige or Reese or anyone for that matter, until.......CC came along.
It’s crazy how pro players can’t acknowledge the Caitlin Clark effect.
Because you weren’t a real fan of basketball yet
@JROB447 real fan? I watch real basketball, men's. Nobody watched or paid any attention to women's. Are you kidding me?
Caitlin was always better then Paige. In high school Paige only outscored Caitlin in freshman year. Paige just had a big name and went to U Conn
Than...
Starting to wonder if the "WNBA/ESPN Slanted Bias" is more about where you went to college at. Starting to think that they refuse to believe such a great talent came from U of Iowa...not UConn, not LSU, not TN, and not S.Carolina. Geno will never admit he made a huge mistake picking Paige over Caitlin. Personally, us Iowans say thank you for keeping our girl at home and you didn't deserve her anyway. Coach Bluder and Jansen were great for her. CC is the complete and total package on and off the court. You have to be both to catch people's admiration and attention.
paige was not even top 5 in any major statictical categories on her freshman year..caitlin was 3rd in assist 2nd in 3pointers made and top in scoring...paige got her freshman trophies coz of politics !!!
Clarks gonna make all these women eat crow.! What is wrong with all people/ haters of her.?? So these girl are breaking clarks records in school. How can they keep fooling themselfs. Just refuse to give her props even though the stats say it all.🤬
There is no rivalry. Bueckers has already capitulated to the WNBA cartel. Clark shows no interest in doing that. Paige does not hsve the fortitude that Caitlin does. Can you imagine Jordan begging the lunies in the WNBA for forgiveness?
Paige is older than Caitlin. Maybe thats the ONLY reason Sue heard about her first. Paige has brought nothing to the WNBA because she hasnt played in it yet 😂😂
Sorry to disagree but they are the same age and hit College the same year. Even though I would want to disagree with Sue Bird on a very fallacious argument on her part. I just can’t let you misinform the readers by inserting a fallacious argument of your own that you could have easily avoided by googling the infos on both players. Please let those kind of dumb mistakes to someone like Sheryl Swoopes.
@@michelleblanc6377they aren’t the same age. Sure for a couple of months maybe. Paige’s bday is Oct. 20, 2001. Caitlin’s bday is Jan. 22, 2002. Maybe you should do your research also.
@@firewulf1556 thank you
@@michelleblanc6377 like I said...Paige is older. I never said Paige started college before Caitlin. All I said was Paige was older than Caitlin and that information is correct. I didn't put anything out there that was wrong
@CaitlinClark22andWillThrill22 Kobe Bryant mamba stamp of approval was too a factor. She was (outside of his daughter) the last protégé he would tragically have.
CC had better statistical seasons than Paige all four years of College, so……
Paige is a great player. She’s still playing in college and hasn’t played in one WNBA game. I think when she finally does when she’s 25, she’ll be good but she won’t be a game changer. Clark is.
I personally think Paige has had minimal effect on the growth of the WNBA because she's never even played a WNBA game and she might not for another year. Most people have no idea who she is. Fun fact the WNBA lost 40 million this year so they still aren't even self sufficient.
The WNBA has been in operation for 28(?) years and has not been on-the-books profitable even once.
If Paige was straight they would hate her too
She is straight. Careful with your prejudices there, bud.
Nah it was her speech that will allow her not to experience what CC did as a rookie.
Pb was just more visible in high school then Caitlin was because she played at a bigger school in a more populated place in Minnesota and it certainly helped that she committed to uconn. Cc played at a small school with a tiny gym in the middle of iowa so she easily flew under most people's radar. If you go back and watch cc in high school it is no surprise the type of player she turned out to be. Even kevin Durant has talked about seeing cc at a aau tournament and having no idea who she was and said it was crazy that somebody that good was not more well known.
These old WNBA players are so full of themselves. I never heard of Sue Bird until I started to watch the WNBA because of Clark. A'ja Wilson. Who?! Same with the rest of them. Get rid of the old guard and maybe the league can start acting like a professional sports representative. Right now they are a joke. I give them absolutely no respect.
As for PG? Never heard of her. She's put herself into a position where she now has to step up when she does come to play in the W. And I would think less of her if she postponed going into the WNBA to avoid playing in Dallas. Her immaturity is glaringly obvious. Make us a believer!
Paige is an excellent player, but has never equaled Clark's number, not even close. To be honest, I wouldn't draft her first. There are other players who will probably contribute just as much, and for longer than Paige.
This kind of behavior from current and past players, however, makes me not want to watch their trash basketball. I'll watch CC, because she's exciting.
She’s talking about High School and the following that Paige had even then. She saw the future of the W but it turned out to be CC. Aside from CC there’s only a handful of players that play at her level, and by level, I mean being able to get her own shot to set her teammates for easy scores to run a fast break offense to rival Magic and Nash. So I don’t see the beautiful game that Bird sees. CC brings that.
freshman stats for both; CC stats are by far superior. I just think she got the eyes and award was just because of UCONN
Team success is and has always been a factor
@@JROB447 its UConn, that definitely plays a huge roll in that 1
This discussion is just mental, as someone who watched Sue Bird in college. The WNBA is BORING. Caitlyn pulled 35-footers on social media. I tuned in for the spectacle and stayed to watch the rest of the ladies. Asia is way better than Caitlyn, and she is BORING. If you are a die-hard fan, I can see you not getting this. Non-WNBA fans want to see something that they cannot do.
Toby Fournier when she starts routinely dunking will be more popular than Paige. Mark my words. We want spectacle. Women who cannot dunk, or routinely miss layups is BORING.
I keep fantasizing that Caitlin will add dunking to her game during the off season. Caitlin is only 6 feet tall, so it's not going to happen, but it's still fun to fantasize about!
Ok, when Paige gets to the WNBA, let's see how many records she breaks being guarded 94 ' every play and being doubled and triple teamed. As these women in the league say I don't think she will handle the physical part.
Yep, she looks like a superstar playing against 18 year olds. But she is going to be playing against grown women who have played pro ball for a long time /s
@@quasarrad1464 I mean playing as a 23 year old against 18 year olds... you're going to look like a star...
SB and PB are both in the Uconn club. Not surprised she is backing her. Those sold out game from early 2000's were with buy 1 get 5 free tickets and the one was like 10$. PB is a start and started it but CC took it to another level. If PB could have stayed healthy she might have been bigger than CC. UConn not taking CC was a huge gift for her to shine at Iowa as batman. Instead of PB playing with the justice league at uconn and just fitting in.
Paige is in herv5th year and isn't even close to cc's sophomore year
23 year old playing against 18 year olds.
@@renovo56Where's swoops criticizing her for it? Crickets
Sue Birds still trying to keep her name in the media spotlight of sorts for the money
Media is trying to make this something it’s not. Caitlin lets her game speak for her. Sue is an idiot. Sue is becoming irrelevant. Just makes stuff up to further her podcast.
A media manufactured rivalry the way they did angel Reese... Caitlin isn't competing with those women....
That was completely manufactured!
If Paige Bueckers gets a bad injury again, she may just turn into another player who never reached her potential because of injuries. Bueckers isn't creating the buzz at Uconn like Clark did at Iowa. Where are all Bueckers' fans telling everyone how Bueckers is going to set the WNBA on fire in her rookie year?
Poor Paige. Being compared to CC coming into the WNBA. Nobody was comparing CC to anybody besides the legends when she came into the league.
That's the part that they say out loud, yet they still somehow miss the point. When Clark joined the WNBA, they compared her to the WNBA all time greats. When Paige joins the WNBA, they will compare her to Caitlin Clark.
Paige in HS was big for the small niche audience following basketball closely. Another Candace Parker or Sue Bird. But Caitlin brought millions of fans to the game and is only comparable to people like Tiger Woods. 99% of the credit for the growth in women’s basketball goes to Clark. Bird is a UConn homer. It’s part of the new effort to take down Clark and elevate anyone else they can. Angel Reese, JuJu, Paige et al. But it won’t work as the average fan never heard of them and is not blown away by their game the way they are by Caitlin. Why can’t people just be honest and give Caitlin her credit? It shouldn’t be this hard and devious.
She’s not wrong. Paige started it, CC finished it.
Umm no paige didn't!! Caitlin Clark is who brought the massive fans to wnba period..
Mick... you need to choose a side and stay with it. You're getting wishy washy 😂
Caitlin wasn't on social media in high school like Paige was bombarding social media with highlight tapes.
I don't think what Bird said was a slight to Caitlin, but more of how Paige was getting a lot of attention even in high school which was almost unprecedented. Paige also got a lot of media her freshman year, compared to anyone else. But most of the Paige attention was mostly in more hardcore basketball circles. But then Caitlin came in and completely blew the roof off the game her last 2 years in college and brought it mainstream.
Can you imagine someone saying a person who's never played in the NBA started the growth of the NBA? 🤣🤣🤣
Well people act that way about caitlin so...
@@matthewlee4697 she grew the WNBA more in one season than any growth they've ever seen. It didn't grow leaps and bounds the year before she joined. But the year she joined it grew to ridiculous heights. Literally if they grew at their previous rate, they'd hit the CC effect more than a decade down the line. So yeah, it's 90+% CC that grew the league.
@@matthewlee4697 I never heard a single person claim that Caitlin did anything to grow the public's interest in the WNBA before she arrived at the WNBA. The talk about her helping the WNBA grow began AFTER she arrived in the WNBA and millions of people started going to games and watching games on TV to watch her play.
Track the chronology of public-interest. When she played in college and people started talking about how talented she was, new people started watching women's college basket to see what the talk was about. She caused a giant spike in the public's interest in women's college-basketball, and that caused people to speculate about how much of an interest-impact she'd be if she played in the WNBA.
When Caitlin started playing in the WNBA she brought her fans with her. She also brought a constantly-growing stream of new fans who'd become curious about what all the talk was about. The more people watched and talked about how incredible she was, the more new, curious people started showing up to games and watching on TV.
Whereas interest in other teams grew slowly, people were falling over themselves to watch the Fever play because they wanted to see Caitlin's skills on the court. Ratings for Fever games soared when the games were televised. When the Fever played away games, there were times that other teams had to move their games to larger stadiums because Caitlin was coming to town and tickets for the smaller stadiums were selling out and people still demanding to see Caitlin play.
When Caitlin started shattering rookie-records and creating new rookie-records, and NBA players started talking about how incredible she was, the floodgates of new curious people opened and the "Caitlin Clark Effect" about viewership and attendance escalated. The moment that the Fever were out of the playoffs and Caitlin wouldn't be playing anymore, viewership of the playoff games plummeted hard and fast.
The same "Caitlin Clark Effect" happened when Caitlin decided to play women's golf during the off-season until the WNBA started their season again. Attendance at LPGA events and TV-viewership skyrocketed. Whenever Caitlin plays in a sport, the public's interest in that sport increases. Whereas players in the WNBA hated on Caitlin, the women of the LPGA have been excited and happy to have Caitlin playing with them.
Caitlin played softball, volleyball, soccer, tennis, and golf as a child, played soccer and basketball in high school, and focused on playing basketball in college. Shes probably the most well-rounded female athlete in the world. No matter what sport she chooses to play, you can bet the bank that people will want to see her doing it. She's such an incredible athlete and so fun to watch that she could enter a ping-pong tournament and people would flock to see how she does in the competition.
If she said this then Sue Bird is no dead to Caitlin fans, and hopefully she’ll no longer respect her by not going for her records. Paige did have the early buzz but she got injured and if Clark wasn’t there to pick up the pieces women’s basketball would have fallen in to obscurity again.
What the ef is wrong with these women? There is only one Superstar and its CC, thats just how it is. Paige, Aja, Reese, Juju or anyone else is not selling out away games at all and they never will.
Forgotten car commercial?
Mike, Stats are just one search away. Page was never better than CC is college
She's always been better she can actually play defense😂
@@brandonleemoss stats say otherwise
@@lessonica4619
✨submit to your new Empress Paige✨
@@lessonica4619 shes literally more efficicent, better defender, well rounded and overall player and way less turnovers. Who gives a fuck about points scored if you just give them all right back by handing the ball over to the other team every couple plays
@@JohnJohn-fe6yc So you're saying Paige will have a better rookie year than Clark, especially if she goes to Dallas with stars like Arike and Satou. Wanna put money on that?
Many overlook the full impact of Caitlin Clark. People may follow an individual for a variety of reasons, not all related to basketball. However, Clark's playing style not only boosts her own performance but also elevates her teammates, attracting some fans. For others, it's her interaction with fans and the public, along with her intelligence and communication skills, that appeal. The essence is that being a basketball star isn't just about skill in the game; it's about embodying qualities that make a once-in-a-lifetime star. Caitlin Clark will do more for the WMBA if the WMBA can get out of the way and let it happen!
Diplomacy has been once in a million.
If CC22 did not indulged in so many sports ( baseball / softball, Soccer, volleyball ,golf) during her youth and just played only basketball she could have been very good in basketball during 1st year in high school ..
So, I guess Mick did not see CC and PG's stats for their freshman year in college.
She’s talking high school.
Which has to do with growing the WNBA how?
Hypocrite Sue!!! 🤡🤡🤡
Do these women get any dumber
Reminds me of the WWF in the mid 90s, Bueckers was Shawn Michaels -- not been able to live up to the hype, while CC has gone on to become "Stone Cold" Steve Austin.
Nah, CC is the Rock. If you smell what I’m cookin
@quasarrad1464 not smelling it cause Dwayne, although he became the other huge superstar in that era, it was Austin who saved Vince McMahon's ass from going out of business. That's what CC is, whether they like it or not, women's basketball savior.
Hell yeah
As Clark said at a presser after a sky game.Its all you people who are calling this a rivalry.Clark dosnt see rivalrys.Its people like yourself that keep pushing this narrative.Clark is going to blitz them next year Paige will have average season
How in the world did Paige Bueckers grow the WNBA? Paige Bueckers is still in college, she is not a WNBA players yet. Caitlin Clark is the big buzz because until just recently I never heard of Paige Bueckers and she had a game on last weekend not sure when it but I never watched her game. Inever even gave a thought of the WNBA until last season when Caitlin Clark was drafted and played her grouling season. I only watch the WNBA because of Caitlin Clark and only Caitlin Clark. Paige Bueckers is not in the WNBA yet and I can't stand hearing about her just like LeBron. That level of annoying. We'll see how many games Paige sells out on the road we know Caitlin will sell out both home and road. Caitlin Clark is the box office. Caitlin has a bigger fan base.
What makes sue bird a legend? She averaged 11 and 5 assists per game😂😂😂😂😂😂
Keep talking haters!!! Its only adding more fuel to Clark. Hate drives Clark so feed her. Feed her well.
I hope the best for Paige… just stay healthy. CC is a beast “I get knocked down and get back up again”
Why the hell are they so hell-bent on creating rivalry?
Do they just not have anything to talk about?
Or do they just not care about the bloody sport?
Edit: and one more thing. I would never heard of Paige if not for Caitlin
Paige who? I'm not joking. I never heard of her before today. I watch Fever bball because of CC, and that's it.
Sue Bird is in the UCONN sorority. Of course she would favor Paige.
These takes from athletes keep getting dumber and dumber. We will all be better off when they just acknowledge the fact that Caitlin Clark is one of one and women's basketball has never had anything like her. She's the only basketball player in the world that significantly moves the needle when she plays right now
Have u noticed that all the recent coaching hires talk about playing an up tempo game!!! CC affect?
Absolutely! You can see it in this years college games. Fast transitions, long passes, becoming much more common.
bird went to uconn. lying is part of going to uconn
Mick again mentions High School Paige. Dude, move off it.. Paige isn’t in high school anymore.. yes she had hype then, but she disappeared cuz she got injured.. but it wasn’t like she was gonna break the scoring record or be an assist leader or anything like that.. just based on the seasons she’s had.. yes she’s miss efficiency, but her games changed completely..
He's trying to provide context, explaining both why Bird thinks the way she does, and then explaining why she's wrong.
We certainly and justifiably give Caitlin credit and recognition. Our recognition can include what CC recognizes -- that her very desire to be the great basketball player she is began with the love of the sport engendered in her by people like Sue Bird. This is not a zero sum game. Everybody actually counts. CC, as much as we love and value her, did not spring full grown from the head of Zeus. The WNBA is good at making enemies and pitting people against each other. We are not, or at least don't have to be, the WNBA.
Mick please quit having Sue Bird on your channel. She seems to always down play Caitlin Clark's generational college career, and her simply unbelievable and historical WNBA rookie season. I don't want to hear anything more from her.
Yeah well Sue Bird is irrelavent
What??? Do your research, dude. Paige was not better than CC 😂😂
Paige was the MVP of a World Cup team they were both on
@@MickTalksHoopsCompare their college stats dude, you’re not that fucking dense c’mon
@MickTalksHoops high school senior year CC ended up with average 33 points. Paige ended at 21. And l don't think that it's necessary to compare college at this point. The first year, Paige got the recognition, Caitlin got the best stats.
Mick getting ready to make Paige his main star. Sue said some strange stuff. Paige star of WNBA.
CC22 ❤ All day just stop!!!
Could this woman just shut up ? Paige definitely boosted the women's college game. . .not the general status of the W !
The best thing to happen to the W and they want to destroy her? I don't get these ladies.
When Paige won her player of the year 5 years ago i barely knew the W existed. It took CC’s draft for any of us to care to learn more.
CC is who people wanted Paige to be
Paige Bueckers wasn’t always number one; they went back and forth through high school who was ranked 1st. And Sue specifically said Paige started the growth, but then Caitlin took it to an insane never before seen level
Paige was the first RUclips videos I saw. Had me intrigued. Then Caitlin videos started popping up and it got me full in!!!!
Saying Paige is the better player is dumb. We measure individual players by their stats. Let's compare Paige and Caitlin's college stats... Suddenly no one wants to talk about it. Remind me again who holds most of the stat records for women's college ball?
And anyone claiming that Paige will be more popular isn't really understand of America. Paige will be popular with people in "those groups". But in mainstream Paige will be mocked.
Can’t stand this Mick. Put up way too many fake content. I’m tired of him showing up on my search… go away way!!!!
If you really have an issue with it, click the three dots and choose “don’t recommend this channel,” and stop taking up our comment space with your boo-who complaints.
@ gladly. You guys are fools for falling for this crap. Clickbait to the core.
Crazy how someone who hasnt even played in the league has done more for the league than the player who has sold out every single game shes played in, brought a bottom team to the playoffs while breaking multiple all time Wnba records and whos merch sells out in minutes every single time.
Caitlin is bringing fans from other sports too..
I started paying attention to Paige her freshman year, of course she got hurt her sophomore year and I started watching CC. Part of what I see in this debate about who’s better is, CC was not surrounded by some of the best high school recruits, therefore she was allowed much more freedom in her style of playing. Paige on the other hand had much more talent around her and was not given the same freedom. Sue once said they were not allowed to shoot 3’s like CC did. Because of the freedom CC was given and the talent she has, in my opinion, her game is much more exciting. Paige is a great player in her own right, but they both play a very different style of basketball. Would it be possible to ignore the media’s attempt to tell us that every great player coming up is as good or better than CC. Let them come to the league, we will make that decision for ourselves. What extra pressure has been added to the players, I’m supposed to be the next CC, sure no pressure.
Great post.
This is going to be the difference. Paige will be a "system" guard because Geno has beaten all the style and flair out of her, so she'll have to get it back in the league. CC has a style and flair and nothing is off limits because Bluder let her grow and play to her strengths. Geno has all his players play to his style. He's a dinosaur.
"Let them come to the league, we will make that decision for ourselves." Exactamundo! And if there are players as good or better than Caitlin, all the better for all of us. The quality of the basketball will be fantastic, and we can still be fans of CC22 and argue about whether she's better than Paige, Juju, Hannah (Hidalgo) which is, after all, part of the fun of sports fandom. It won't sting then like it does now because Caitlin will be established, and we won't be having to deal with sour-faced ex- veterans who want to piss on players who don't meet their personal criteria.
A mistake that people make is thinking that talent is what equates to greatness or popularity as a player. But it is not always true, or at least the deciding factor. I do not think there has ever been a power forward with more talent than Tim Duncan. But Larry Bird was more fun to watch. I think the reason that Wilt Chamberlain gets the nod by so many people over Bill Russell is that he had way more flash to his game. Caitlin Clark is not the best player in the WNBA, that is A'ja, but I would much rather watch Caitlin Clark. I think that Paige Bueckers will have Angel Reese level of popularity in the WNBA, which is a lot, but not Caitlin Clark level. I have not see her in the pros yet, so maybe things will change, but I would rather watch Arike play than Paige because (for me) Arike is more fun to watch. And who is the most fun to watch in the WNBA? Caitlin Clark. And I would rather watch Paige than A'ja because she is more fun to watch (I only saw a few games, so that may change). The NBA has always been like that. We want to see Dr. J and Elgin Baylor and other players that have sizzle in their games. Now, I use Tim Duncan as an example of a game with less sizzle. But he was still fun to watch. Just not as much fun as Magic Johnson or Michael Jordan or other players who make you oooh and aaah when you watch. Same goes for A'ja. I like to watch her play. I just prefer other players who are more fun to watch. Sure, it's sports and winning is very important. But it is also entertainment and fun is even more important because we want to be entertained.
Spot on. I feel exactly the same way. CC is not the best player but she’s without a doubt must see tv. Some people just have the IT factor.
Hmm. It seems that some of these legends become delusional as time goes by. It seems that Sue Bird keeps flip-flopping like a fish out of water.
Yeah, yuge surprise, someone from UCONN gives shine to Bueckers. Iowa was a small market team and didn't have nearly the press .
You need to do better research. Disappointing.
I remember seeing NBA players like Kareem Abul JUabbar (Lou Alcinder), Larry Bird, Carl Malone, Wilt Chamberlain, Bill Russell and Jerry West. Sue Bird wasn't even born until 1980 and I thought she was a gymnast after hearing her name. It never occurred to me that the WNBA was a professional basketball organization, and never watched a WNBA game on TV until this year when the Fever played.
Pete Maravich was so good!!!
I’ve never liked UConn, never liked Geno, and I really don’t like how all the old UConn players keep pushing Paige. I’d really like to see Paige do something in the WNBA before everyone starts proclaiming her to be as good or better than Caitlin. It gets old listening to the ESPN girls and the old players talk about the league being in good shape before Caitlin came, when the attendance and viewer numbers tell a different story.
Only one women's basketball player has made money for College or the WNBA and it isn't Paige or any of the other UCONN players past and present. Only CC has sold out home and away games in College and the WNBA. What are Paige's tv ratings when UCONN plays.
Paige Bueckers had Geno Auriemma pushing Paige since 9th grade...
People keep talking about Paige in high school she is not in high school anymore like CC is the one cause this ain’t no hype it’s REAL numbers don’t lie
I guess they want to get publicity and don’t care how stupid they sound.
Really ridiculous.....you don't bring a league up when your not even in it.....just another attempt at stealing CC's deserved attention
So by saying geno made Paige a different player, less exciting, would help ya understand why geno is in love with the style of play in the WNBA by teams who aren’t the fever.
Media trying to create click bait using CC vs so and so and so and so, and the next so and so. Tiresome.
Yes paige got a ton of buzz early on in her ncaa career. Yet i have a feeling that she is going to struggle in the W. She definitely will not have the rookie season CC had.
She is doing it for her UCONN fam 🙄
Paige bent the knee with her award speech. She’s not gonna get the treatment CC got her rookie season.
Just stop. Stop using the word "rivalry" when talking about Bueckers and Clark. You're starting to sound like all the media a-holes who tried to make Clark and Reese into a rivalry, even though that was all on one side.
Much healthier and more realistic rivalry than angel reese..
another UConn player mouthing off following Genos comments.
She’s from UConn . What she says doesn’t matter