I fell in love with Lower Decks the 1st season. It's refreshing from all the new Trek that's so dark and depressing ( SNW not included, love that too). I've seen every season of every series and movies ( Kelvin timeline barf), the new stuff has been hit and miss, but Lower Decks has been solid from the start! # SAVE PRODIGY!! 🤘😁🖖🇨🇦
I believe the first two or so digits of the registry refer to the ship's class (i.e. all Constitution classes had NCC-17XX), so we'd be just a bit limited there. But then, maybe that tradition has ended and someone never told me.
@@ananonymousnerd.2179 It was more a case of them originally being just a representation of build order. But then legacy names started happening, so you end up with Galaxy class ships with Constitution registries, and only new name ships get that treatment. and with multiple ship classes being produced at the same time it no longer matches up to classes. TOS era it worked because they really only had the resources to output one or two classes of ship at the same time. Constitution class ships were being built for a long time, originally commissioned for the war with the Klingons, then came the Miranda class, then the Excelsior, both of which were new built for around 80 years. The ambassador class was in there as the Excelsior began to show it's age, and the Constellation class to replace the Miranda, the Nebula and Galaxy class came about to replace those old work horses. And then the Borg threat, and the Donimion war happened. Many new ship projects were put in the line due to that, and we got like 6 or so new classes out of it all around the same time.
only have a couple streaming services and no cable so i sadly live vicariously thru various clips but love the idea of lower decks and non-capitol ships like the california class a big regret i had for ds-9 was that it wasn't an anthology series featuring different ships throughout the series and different crews [yeah i know the expense would have killed it but can still hope] trek should have a huge fleet due to the size and distances of the galaxy so there's fodder for many series not counting across time
8:38 That’s the Carlsbad NCC-73110, Oakland is Command RED with distinctual Pin-stripes on her dorsal, and is the first ship to arrive after Cerritos was crippled by Aledo following its core ejection.
Roo-bee-doe, not Roo-bee-doo; Southern California may not have a uniform accent, but specific place names wind up with pronunciations divorced from the original person or place that inspired the name. This is especially prevalent in San Diego County, for some reason. Other than that, the California Class ship names sounded good.🎉
I love how they took are of the Texas class ships. Sure the are Secondary in nature, but they can do well, unless there's a joke involved. Then all hell breaks loose! ;-). BTW, Adam great job as usual! Oh, how I love the UNDERDOGS! 🖖🏼
In terms of Chess, I think of the California Class of ships being the pawns of Starfleet. While Pawns might not seem that impressive, being so limited, they are very important to the outcome of the game. Underestimate them at your peril. As shown during the fight with the Aledo, which would likely be like a Queen, a large number of Cali Classic ships working together can take down ships that are much more powerful than them.
4:22 -- I would think the holding cells' ability to withstand your chili would have more to do with atmospheric reprocessing and filtering than the force field. Unless your chili is somehow interphasic or comprised of particularly exotic particles.
This ship class is 794 m long and is classified as a light support cruiser, if it had a version with the shape of the galaxy class that even took advantage of its narcelles and ability to separate the engineering disc section, would it be over 1000m in length?
The only new trek show I have seen most of and my third favourite Trek (only behind DS9 and Enterprise) I adore the Cali Class but the bunk beds in the hallways were daft. Starfleet is manned by Volunteers who are the best of the best having passed through multiple tests and evaluations. They deserve better than a bunk in a damned hallway.
Thinking about it, that is the one thing that I didn't like about the California Class. I don't see a problem with the bunkbeds (since that is what junior members of many militaries are usually first provided), but as a minimum there should be some kind of privacy screen (such as a via a solid hologram that can be made opaque or transparent, and dropped when needed) to give the individual crew members some privacy, to allow them darkness for sleep, keep out noise, and to allow them to adjust their personal environment for comfort.
The one thing that I DO NOT understand about the ships getting caught in tractor beams. Why they never teleported a huge bomb into the beam. 10:19)By Galaxy Class was he referring to ships like the USS Enterprise-D (NCC 1701-D)? At least 3 times Captain Plcard said that it was the first of the type. That would make them USS Enterprise-D (NCC 1701-D) Class dreadnoughts. They about 25% larger than the Excelsior Class battleship.
You know, I didn't notice that Jack Quaid was too tall to credibly represent Boimler in live action. I'm not sure I'd even consider that episode to be canon because it was too uncanny valley for me.
I didn't find the crossover to have an uncanny valley issue since everything in the past was live action, and I didn't find Quaid's height to be an issue (I didn't really notice it). The Uncanny Valley would have been an issue if they tried to combine live action and animation in the same scenes. As far as canon goes, I do consider "Lower Decks" to be just as much canon as the other "Star Trek" series. It's just a part of Starfleet that we haven't really seen before. I hope that when "Lower Decks" ends it is not forgotten.
AS a Californian, the thought of serving on The Oakland or The Fresno is quite disturbing. Especially if the decks of the Oakland are as rough as the streets in the real City. Or the halls in the Fresno as fog clouded as real Fresno in fall and winter. Literally cannot see across an intersection. Though you CAN hear cars going by at 45...
I'm a Constution and Sovereign and Galaxy Class Man... Myself. But The Cali Class is not my top ten but she is still beautiful to look at... she's not powerful nor durable about every ship is unique.
So what I am hearing is that it took 100 Californians to take on a Texan. Honestly, I dislike the ship because it reminds me of either the pre-Borg or mid-Dominion War builds but WITHOUT all the improvements to ship builds that they had up to that point. California, as it's namesake, seems to be weak on its own and has to overwhelm an enemy with numbers to be effective. If this had been Wolf 359 these ships would've been erased within seconds. Honestly, it seems to be only a step up from Oberth class ships in reliability, which makes me question why the writers didn't just get a ship from STO that was better suited for the role? I mean I'm no expert but even the Nova class ensured you had actual quarters for the crew, even if they had to double up. To make it worse, the Defiant, who is about as small as a Saber class had rooms for the barracks-style rooms and this ship is physically bigger than a Defiant class coming in close to an Ambassador class. So, the ship design makes even less sense in the post-Dominion War era, especially given what we have for references of smaller ships and their accommodations. Putting the nonsense of the internal layout in contrast to other ships with similar layouts aside, these ships are far too fragile for the era these are supposed to be in. Had this been the pre-Borg era I could see these being a practical ship. But it just doesn't seem practical for them to keep such a design active. While I am not so much a fan of how the initial season was done, nor the Mary Sueness of a certain character. I do find the addressing of the Below Decks crew to be something that was sorely needed as other shows had touched on the idea but tbh fell flat as they never seem to translate into any meaningful reforms within Starfleet. Like many things made in the current Era, it is a good concept, but the execution left a lot to be desired. To those that like the series, fair enough, free world and all that. But from someone who is a serious sci-fi and starship nerd, the California makes no sense to me in a post-Dominion era Starfleet. I like the idea of a darker Startrek show without it going Picard on us, but the initial launch turned me off simply due to me being tired of seeing a character that could seemingly do it all yet didn't want to which was all over tv and movies at the time.
she may not be the prettiest ship of the line but she does her job and looks after her crew and just like any high-end Galaxy class vessel or sovereign class warship you treat her like a lady she'll get you home every time.
@@arachk Aww, dang it, I hope they are successful in finding it a new home because Lower Decks and Prodigy are the only new Trek I'm interested in at all.
Obvious that California class would get the best of Texas. No one would ever make a class named for Massachusetts. The naming committee would get their fill of chu-chu-choo train jokes out of their system and move on to a better sounding named state.
Why base a ship class name on an American state? Because if California was a COUNTRY on Earth, its economy would place 5TH in standing, ahead of India and the UK...
This is by far the ugliest, unbalanced and badly designed ship I ever seen in my 40 years of watching SF. I refused to watch this star trek show based on how ugly and badly designed this ship looks.
That's the point of the California class, it's supposed to look like a piss poor knock off of the Galaxy class. It's not a hero ship, it's a lower decks ship that's stuck doing secondary support missions.
I fell in love with Lower Decks the 1st season. It's refreshing from all the new Trek that's so dark and depressing ( SNW not included, love that too). I've seen every season of every series and movies ( Kelvin timeline barf), the new stuff has been hit and miss, but Lower Decks has been solid from the start! # SAVE PRODIGY!! 🤘😁🖖🇨🇦
I believe they are Beluga whales, not Dolphins.
Ya beat me to it.
Only thing missing is a Captain's dinghy. Not a yacht, that would just be silly.
Plus the Orca crew members aboard would destroy a yacht if it was fitted.
"I guess those Cali-class ships can hold their own longer than people think." -- William T. Riker
Your pronunciations were pretty much spot on!
Except Rubidoux is pronounced with a dough; Rubi-dough.
One wrong out of all of those names is great!!!
Poor Captain Layton never got a break
Honestly you did well with the city names.
My favorite animated sci fi, on par with futurama
It’s a shame they didn’t use the city’s zip code as the ship’s NCC number.
USS Oakland NCC-94609...?
USS Fresno NCC-93728?
Naaah.
@@Reepicheep-1 USS Beverly Hills NCC-90210 academy training ship
I believe the first two or so digits of the registry refer to the ship's class (i.e. all Constitution classes had NCC-17XX), so we'd be just a bit limited there. But then, maybe that tradition has ended and someone never told me.
@@ananonymousnerd.2179 It was more a case of them originally being just a representation of build order.
But then legacy names started happening, so you end up with Galaxy class ships with Constitution registries, and only new name ships get that treatment. and with multiple ship classes being produced at the same time it no longer matches up to classes.
TOS era it worked because they really only had the resources to output one or two classes of ship at the same time. Constitution class ships were being built for a long time, originally commissioned for the war with the Klingons, then came the Miranda class, then the Excelsior, both of which were new built for around 80 years. The ambassador class was in there as the Excelsior began to show it's age, and the Constellation class to replace the Miranda, the Nebula and Galaxy class came about to replace those old work horses.
And then the Borg threat, and the Donimion war happened.
Many new ship projects were put in the line due to that, and we got like 6 or so new classes out of it all around the same time.
You know... I saw that Oberth Class line coming and I STILL had to reign in my Engineering crew! Hehe
Love me some Lower Decks!!! Can't wait for Season 4.
500 meters?!?! That's HUGE!!!!
only have a couple streaming services and no cable so i sadly live vicariously thru various clips but love the idea of lower decks and non-capitol ships like the california class
a big regret i had for ds-9 was that it wasn't an anthology series featuring different ships throughout the series and different crews [yeah i know the expense would have killed it but can still hope]
trek should have a huge fleet due to the size and distances of the galaxy so there's fodder for many series not counting across time
You should watch star trek up and downs
8:38 That’s the Carlsbad NCC-73110, Oakland is Command RED with distinctual Pin-stripes on her dorsal, and is the first ship to arrive after Cerritos was crippled by Aledo following its core ejection.
7:38, WAIT WAIT, isn't that really the guts of Enterprise G
The California class, Star fleet's tv stand
have you done a video on the Bonaventure class Ncc-1000?
one of the sexiest starships in non-canon star trek
Still say the California class is the updated replacement (or replacements replacement) for whatever class the Farragut is in SNW!
i was thinking this too
according to the snw art director tim peel he believed the farragut to be a 'bellerophon' class ship, named after one of poseidons many sons, fyi
Unashamedly my new favourite Starfleet vessel. That said, can you shed any light on the unloved Typhoon Class battleship from STO?
i would very much command a California class😊
As far as I am concerned, STAR TREK rules, STAR WARS is reaching, but RED DWARF and DR. WHO made SCI-FI fun to enjoy!
There has to be more than 35 calis classes, I'd imagine those in the season 3 finally were those who got there in time.
Roo-bee-doe, not Roo-bee-doo; Southern California may not have a uniform accent, but specific place names wind up with pronunciations divorced from the original person or place that inspired the name. This is especially prevalent in San Diego County, for some reason. Other than that, the California Class ship names sounded good.🎉
I love how they took are of the Texas class ships. Sure the are Secondary in nature, but they can do well, unless there's a joke involved. Then all hell breaks loose! ;-). BTW, Adam great job as usual! Oh, how I love the UNDERDOGS! 🖖🏼
In terms of Chess, I think of the California Class of ships being the pawns of Starfleet. While Pawns might not seem that impressive, being so limited, they are very important to the outcome of the game. Underestimate them at your peril.
As shown during the fight with the Aledo, which would likely be like a Queen, a large number of Cali Classic ships working together can take down ships that are much more powerful than them.
This thing looks like it has safety flares for engines, or light sabers. Maybe flashlights.
4:22 -- I would think the holding cells' ability to withstand your chili would have more to do with atmospheric reprocessing and filtering than the force field. Unless your chili is somehow interphasic or comprised of particularly exotic particles.
[RESPONSE CLASSIFIED]
Leave the Oberth class alone. Its a great little ship.
This ship class is 794 m long and is classified as a light support cruiser, if it had a version with the shape of the galaxy class that even took advantage of its narcelles and ability to separate the engineering disc section, would it be over 1000m in length?
Isn't that just the Nebula Class minus a secondary hull and mission pod?
Looking a table
10:00, well I do bloody live there
Salute! Space Roomba!
Belugas not Dolphins
Oh yes, the pick up truck of the Federation
The only new trek show I have seen most of and my third favourite Trek (only behind DS9 and Enterprise) I adore the Cali Class but the bunk beds in the hallways were daft. Starfleet is manned by Volunteers who are the best of the best having passed through multiple tests and evaluations. They deserve better than a bunk in a damned hallway.
Thinking about it, that is the one thing that I didn't like about the California Class. I don't see a problem with the bunkbeds (since that is what junior members of many militaries are usually first provided), but as a minimum there should be some kind of privacy screen (such as a via a solid hologram that can be made opaque or transparent, and dropped when needed) to give the individual crew members some privacy, to allow them darkness for sleep, keep out noise, and to allow them to adjust their personal environment for comfort.
Great video
Awww no poor star drive 😢
i love this ship
Just realized the final act was California beaing up Texas. Someone had a grudge :P
Um, I dnt really watch Lower Decks but in one ep didn’t EVERY Cali get called in for an emergency?
First, also, I love these videos.
The one thing that I DO NOT understand about the ships getting caught in tractor beams. Why they never teleported a huge bomb into the beam.
10:19)By Galaxy Class was he referring to ships like the USS Enterprise-D (NCC 1701-D)? At least 3 times Captain Plcard said that it was the first of the type. That would make them USS Enterprise-D (NCC 1701-D) Class dreadnoughts. They about 25% larger than the Excelsior Class battleship.
I’d rather be an underdog than cope with the prospect of dying to unknown virus upon the first contact
Lord's ladies and human subspecies😂
Kind of like a stretched centaur
You know it's cool just was I wasn't in the mood for cartoon
You know, I didn't notice that Jack Quaid was too tall to credibly represent Boimler in live action. I'm not sure I'd even consider that episode to be canon because it was too uncanny valley for me.
I didn't find the crossover to have an uncanny valley issue since everything in the past was live action, and I didn't find Quaid's height to be an issue (I didn't really notice it). The Uncanny Valley would have been an issue if they tried to combine live action and animation in the same scenes. As far as canon goes, I do consider "Lower Decks" to be just as much canon as the other "Star Trek" series. It's just a part of Starfleet that we haven't really seen before. I hope that when "Lower Decks" ends it is not forgotten.
AS a Californian, the thought of serving on The Oakland or The Fresno is quite disturbing. Especially if the decks of the Oakland are as rough as the streets in the real City. Or the halls in the Fresno as fog clouded as real Fresno in fall and winter. Literally cannot see across an intersection. Though you CAN hear cars going by at 45...
U.S.S Resolute ftw!!
I'm a Constution and Sovereign and Galaxy Class Man... Myself. But The Cali Class is not my top ten but she is still beautiful to look at... she's not powerful nor durable about every ship is unique.
So what I am hearing is that it took 100 Californians to take on a Texan.
Honestly, I dislike the ship because it reminds me of either the pre-Borg or mid-Dominion War builds but WITHOUT all the improvements to ship builds that they had up to that point.
California, as it's namesake, seems to be weak on its own and has to overwhelm an enemy with numbers to be effective. If this had been Wolf 359 these ships would've been erased within seconds. Honestly, it seems to be only a step up from Oberth class ships in reliability, which makes me question why the writers didn't just get a ship from STO that was better suited for the role?
I mean I'm no expert but even the Nova class ensured you had actual quarters for the crew, even if they had to double up. To make it worse, the Defiant, who is about as small as a Saber class had rooms for the barracks-style rooms and this ship is physically bigger than a Defiant class coming in close to an Ambassador class. So, the ship design makes even less sense in the post-Dominion War era, especially given what we have for references of smaller ships and their accommodations. Putting the nonsense of the internal layout in contrast to other ships with similar layouts aside, these ships are far too fragile for the era these are supposed to be in.
Had this been the pre-Borg era I could see these being a practical ship. But it just doesn't seem practical for them to keep such a design active.
While I am not so much a fan of how the initial season was done, nor the Mary Sueness of a certain character. I do find the addressing of the Below Decks crew to be something that was sorely needed as other shows had touched on the idea but tbh fell flat as they never seem to translate into any meaningful reforms within Starfleet. Like many things made in the current Era, it is a good concept, but the execution left a lot to be desired.
To those that like the series, fair enough, free world and all that. But from someone who is a serious sci-fi and starship nerd, the California makes no sense to me in a post-Dominion era Starfleet. I like the idea of a darker Startrek show without it going Picard on us, but the initial launch turned me off simply due to me being tired of seeing a character that could seemingly do it all yet didn't want to which was all over tv and movies at the time.
Cheers adam
she may not be the prettiest ship of the line but she does her job and looks after her crew and just like any high-end Galaxy class vessel or sovereign class warship you treat her like a lady she'll get you home every time.
What was that about saving Star Trek Prodigy? Is something wrong with it? Has it been cancelled? Tell me it hasn't been cancelled!
I think its been cancelled by Paramount +, but they trying to get it a home on another network/streaming service
@@arachk Aww, dang it, I hope they are successful in finding it a new home because Lower Decks and Prodigy are the only new Trek I'm interested in at all.
The greatest ship in the fleet.
I'm not sure about that.
Obvious that California class would get the best of Texas. No one would ever make a class named for Massachusetts. The naming committee would get their fill of chu-chu-choo train jokes out of their system and move on to a better sounding named state.
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omg its the cali class? pass...
Why base a ship class name on an American state? Because if California was a COUNTRY on Earth, its economy would place 5TH in standing, ahead of India and the UK...
This is by far the ugliest, unbalanced and badly designed ship I ever seen in my 40 years of watching SF.
I refused to watch this star trek show based on how ugly and badly designed this ship looks.
*confused beluga whale noises*
The California class starship is a poor look.... Give me a Gaxly Class starship.....
That's the point of the California class, it's supposed to look like a piss poor knock off of the Galaxy class. It's not a hero ship, it's a lower decks ship that's stuck doing secondary support missions.
Lower Deck was the one that should of been cancelled. Not Prodigy. Lower Decks is very inappropriate by Star Trek standards.
Facts... It's Non Canon to me.