@@Nightsu That's what 99% of the cretins on Saturday Social on. Only Nieve and James Allcott actually know the game inside out - The rest are living off Twitter followers and engagement farming.
@@rossmorgan2726 the "united, city and liverpool fans" are all from london, they get random youtubers who run channels that thrive off the club not doing well. nieve and allcott support their local and don't do it for views. this is the worst guest the platform has ever had.
Poor Joe is sat there thinking the same as all of us. What are these guys on about. It's really stupid. Why do they not check these people's credibility before getting them on. Anyone can get famous for shouting about their club or saying something controversial, going viral, all that sort of stuff, but that doesn't mean they know anything about the other 19 clubs in the league.
@@_A7XI feel you but if you take away Saka’s contributions on every season the last 3 or 4 seasons, Arsenal won’t be anywhere near where they are and he’s their only elite forward and the person Odegaard supplies the most with assists so it’s not just an English thing tbf
Plastic social media gimps get to Southampton and pick the Chelsea loanee? What did you expect when you get people on TV with limited knowledge of the game?
Oddegard is arsenal most important player there is no replacement for him for saliba white & calafiori can come in, for saka sterling & trosaard can come in
@@jean-paulwalters8855lmao is that why Ødegaard has won poty for them 2 seasons in a row. You think Saka because he’s an Arsenal academy product from England and one of England’s best players. Odegaard is the machine that makes Arsenal tick, he’s their best player.
@@brandoningram6526 Saka is Arsenal's most important player, they've literally been overplaying and exhausting because there's been no other options behind him
The most important player, is the player that when not available the function of the team drastically changes Saliba has shown he is that player. Season when Rob Holding and Kiwior had to come in for him.
Arsenal - Saka A Villa - Torres Bournemouth - Semenyo Brentford - Mbuemo Brighton - Dunk Chelsea - Palmer Palace - Eze Everton - Branthwaite Fulham - Smith Rowe Ipswich - Hutchinson Leicester - Vardy Liverpool - VIRGIL VAN DIJK Man C - Haaland Man U - Mainoo Newcastle - Bruno G Forest - Gibbs White Southampton - Armstrong Spurs - Maddison West Ham - Bowen Wolves - Cunha
0:43 🤦🏾 Why Everyone outside of Arsenal think Saka?People who don’t watch Arsenal closely say Saka. He is not even 2nd. I’d argue our 4th best our Ruth most important.
Odegaard for Arsenal. It’s not even a question. See what happens to our tactics and play structure as soon as he doesn’t play, we get accused of negative football.
Without a trace of doubt, Micky Van de Ven is Tottenhams most important player. With the death-defying high line of defence we are 100% dependent on his speed and recovery runs. So you guys are way off with Maddison. Vicario is a better shout, though.
I love saka and I'm not understating his attacking contribution to arsenal, but the most important player in our team is odegaard. Without odegaard, arsenal can't seem to be scoring regularly right now.
ARSENAL: Either SALIBA or ØDEGAARD Saka has never really missed for any period due to injury so we don't know. But we saw how SALIBA's absence ended our title charge and we're currently seeing how in the absece of ØDEGAARD Arsenal isn't the same and lacks creativity. EDIT: I go with ØDEGAARD based on the fact that in White, Timber and Calafiori we now have reasonable cover for Saliba, which we didn't have two seasons ago.
My list personally would be: Arsenal- Ødegaard Aston Villa- Duran atm(Super Sub) Bournemouth- Semenyo Brentford- Mbuemo Brighton- Mitoma Chelsea- Palmer Crystal Palace- Eze Everton- McNeil Fulham- Can't choose their isn't one main man Ipswich- Delap Leicster- Vardy Liverpool- TAA Man City- Rodri or "My Ginger Brother" Man U- Bruno Fernades Newcastle- Gordon NottsForest- Wood (because I'm from New Zealand Southampton- Ramsdale probally (I don't really know the southampton team?) Totenham- Son when fit WestHam- Bowen Wolves- Cunha
This discussion basically turned into 'At what position does every club have the least depth?' Pretty much all arguments were centered around '[Player] is most important because there is no one else in that position'. The discussion should've been more about what player made the most impact so far as an individual.
Lavia has outperformed Caicedo in way less appearances but none of Chelsea's attackers have reached anywhere near Palmer's level and numbers. He literally is the heartbeat of that team
Watkins for Villa, Ødegaard for Arsenal, Mbeumo for Brentford, Palmer for Chelsea , Haaland for City, MacAllister for Liverpool, Ramsdale for Southampton, Guimaraes for Newcastle, Mitoma for Brighton, Bruno Fernandez for Manchester United, Eze for Crystal Palace, Gibbs-White for Nottingham Forest, Pickford for Everton, McKenna for Ipswich, ESR for Fulham.
City has 3: Rodri, KDB, Haaland Liverpool: VVD, Gravenberch Arsenal: Odegaard (the link of the whole team), Saka Chelsea: Palmer obviously Villa: Watkins Newcastle: Bruno G. Tottenham: Maddison, Son Man Utd: No one
Tavernier being Bournemouth's most important player cannot be a serious take. He's improved this season compared to last, but really? Lewis Cook is surely our most important
Arsenal most important so far RAYA ASTON Villa -Martinez Bournemouth- Zarbanyi Brentford-------- Mbuemo Brighton-------- Dunk Chelsea------- Palmer Palace------- Eze Everton------ McNeil Fulham------ Andersen Ipswich------- Delap Leicester---- Vardy Liverpool---- Gravenbach Man City----- Haaland Man City----- Onana Newcastle----- Pope/ Bruno Forest---------- Murillo Southampton----- none Spurs---------- Micky Van De Ven West Ham------ Bowen Wolves-------- Ait Nouri/Cunha
Liverpools most important player is van dijk, mainly cus of who the backup is. The only other arguments are alisson, trent, macca and salah but the backup for those are kelleher, bradley, curtis and chiesa/gakpo whereas van dijks backup is quansah then if konate is injured aswell we have to play gomez cb which is awful. Best player and most important for the future could be other players but van dijk is the most important for the rest of this season
The thing with van dijk is he brings his partner up 2 ratings every match, no offence to quansah he’s got a world class potential at centre back but if he came in nexto konate i think we’d see a huge drop off just cus van dijk is the reserved one who recovers for the other centre back multiple times a game, its like they don’t even need to check over their shoulder cus if they’re not covering something van dijk will tell them
Ødegaard is our most important player and there is no other choice. Saka deserves all the respect, but Martin makes the whole team work. He connects everything, he leads the team on in pressuring and intensity, and also make Saka able to do what he does. The most important players are the ones who make the team around them better and he does that better than most.
For chelsea I would have gone for either Caceido or Gusto. Caceido is great not a lot of replacement for him. Gusto doesn’t have any replacement right now. We have the best RB in the work in Reece James, and we have the best back-up right back in the world in Gusto. So for that he is the most crucial for me.
@@TheOfficialGobbIedyGooker Such a fifa merchant. James isn’t that far behind Trent when it comes to delivery of balls, but he is clear of Trent on Physicality and Defending. Players hate coming up against James, their only hope is that he gets injured. Trent is the 2nd most dribbled past player in the league, the most dribbled past defender. James is elite all round, Trent is the best passer but average and terrible at everything else.
As a Bournemouth fan, Tav?! Really? He was sensational under GON but under iraola hes really struggled. Id say either Christie or Zabarnyi are our key players.
How are these guys getting screen time with such sh**ty ball knowledge. Ridiculous
Matsen is just trying to be controversial. But I Am disappointed for this bs
Cannot agree more! What a waste of time…
Jack Hinshelwood as Brighton’s most important player is a shout deserving of jail time.
Yeah Kadioglu is was signed and is better than all their fullbacks
Yes and Caicedo over palmer too
Should be Baleba who will become a 100m player. To be that good, to br that influential at only 20. Huge talent
Hes been poor so far tbh @@Renoir.
Let’s say controversial things for views 🙄
100% agree. Perhaps we should all stop watching.
Faysals ball knowledge is in the gutters
trying too hard to be different
why are they getting a london real madrid glory hunter on sky to talk about the premier league...
Go Away you loser. using ball knowledge go touch some grass kid. matisse list was embarrasing so is your hairline. faysal is you master
@@Nightsu That's what 99% of the cretins on Saturday Social on. Only Nieve and James Allcott actually know the game inside out - The rest are living off Twitter followers and engagement farming.
@@rossmorgan2726 the "united, city and liverpool fans" are all from london, they get random youtubers who run channels that thrive off the club not doing well. nieve and allcott support their local and don't do it for views.
this is the worst guest the platform has ever had.
This is brain rot
All are stinky takes but that West Ham one is absolutely shocking. Missing Summerville will not affect them at all
Surely it’s Jarrod? Surely
@@testadalord01432 even paquata or any other player before Summerville
Had to turn off when Onana got picked for Villa.
As a Villa fan, it should have been Martinez, Konsa or Tielemans. Onana has been great but we had Luiz playing well there before anyway.
At 2:34 the guy on the said "shout out Tielemans". Only person on that panel who has some ball knowledge.
Surprised Watkins not shouted, when he’s on form you seem to be another level and I’m not aware of him being out for long at Villa?
Well they are not Villa fans so prob dont watch every game
@@stevindiesel only reason it might not be Watkins now is the form of Duran. But I'd still put him second after Martinez
Poor Joe is sat there thinking the same as all of us. What are these guys on about. It's really stupid. Why do they not check these people's credibility before getting them on. Anyone can get famous for shouting about their club or saying something controversial, going viral, all that sort of stuff, but that doesn't mean they know anything about the other 19 clubs in the league.
Because they're box tickers and that seems to be all modern media care about. Remember, they cancelled Soccer AM for this 'saturday social' BS🙃🤡
Caisedo over Palma bonkers 😂😂😂😂😂
I lost brain cells
Historical disasterclass this
How isnt Ødegaard not even mentioned
Becuz he's going up against an English player (Saka) and you know who they'll choose
@@_A7XI feel you but if you take away Saka’s contributions on every season the last 3 or 4 seasons, Arsenal won’t be anywhere near where they are and he’s their only elite forward and the person Odegaard supplies the most with assists so it’s not just an English thing tbf
@@_A7XEnglish…English…English…Change the record bro! Every day, every video! 🤣🤡🤣🤡
@@_A7Xchange the record bro. It’s EVERY video
Because there is no Arsenal fan there or someone who really knows Arsenal🤷🏾♂️
He picked wrong for every club. Crazy
Hahahah so true, almost like he did it on purpose
Except for Eze and Haaland
I love Onana, but there are 4 or 5 players who if they got injured would be a bigger impact on the squad
Ugochukwu Southamptons most important player 😂😂 guy doesn’t even start
He does
@@draco1367 mate I’m a Southampton fan, he doesn’t start, he’s started 1 game in the prem. he isn’t in our best team.
He’s your best midfielder he should be starting
@@KubaMisiaszek10 when he came on against Ipswich last weekend he was awful, he should not be starting Flynn downes is better.
Plastic social media gimps get to Southampton and pick the Chelsea loanee? What did you expect when you get people on TV with limited knowledge of the game?
If villa lose onana….. they have Kamara back from injury next week… dead ball knowledge
Tielemans has also been excellent in holding mid - It isn't an area of concern for us.
Odegaard is Arsenal’s most important player
Fax
Oddegard is arsenal most important player there is no replacement for him for saliba white & calafiori can come in, for saka sterling & trosaard can come in
It's Saka, you think Arsenal, first name you think of as their main man, their danger man, is Saka
@@jean-paulwalters8855lmao is that why Ødegaard has won poty for them 2 seasons in a row. You think Saka because he’s an Arsenal academy product from England and one of England’s best players. Odegaard is the machine that makes Arsenal tick, he’s their best player.
@@brandoningram6526 Saka is Arsenal's most important player, they've literally been overplaying and exhausting because there's been no other options behind him
The most important player, is the player that when not available the function of the team drastically changes Saliba has shown he is that player. Season when Rob Holding and Kiwior had to come in for him.
as an Arsenal fan i would easily say Odegaard.
Arsenal - Saka
A Villa - Torres
Bournemouth - Semenyo
Brentford - Mbuemo
Brighton - Dunk
Chelsea - Palmer
Palace - Eze
Everton - Branthwaite
Fulham - Smith Rowe
Ipswich - Hutchinson
Leicester - Vardy
Liverpool - VIRGIL VAN DIJK
Man C - Haaland
Man U - Mainoo
Newcastle - Bruno G
Forest - Gibbs White
Southampton - Armstrong
Spurs - Maddison
West Ham - Bowen
Wolves - Cunha
As an Arsenal fan, Odegaard is our most important player
Man City is Rodri idiot
Replace Saka with Odegaard.
@@khalbmesfin4522 Bro said Haaland instead of Rodri
Saliba.. proof is right there
0:43 🤦🏾 Why Everyone outside of Arsenal think Saka?People who don’t watch Arsenal closely say Saka. He is not even 2nd. I’d argue our 4th best our Ruth most important.
this guy knows nothing
Who at Sky decided to cancel Soccer AM and replace it with this nonsense? Are we supposed to know any of these people?🙃🤦♂
Tavernier is not our most important player 😂
Saw his 1st 3 picks and I stopped watching from there.. What a ridiculous takes
Odegaard for Arsenal. It’s not even a question. See what happens to our tactics and play structure as soon as he doesn’t play, we get accused of negative football.
Summerville for West Ham? 😂😂😂
Travernier and Braithwaite? Guy doesn’t even know players names 💀
He did nothing to dispel the fact that Chelsea fans don’t know ball
Bro if Cole palmer wasn’t in Chelsea they’d be nowhere near as good
Without a trace of doubt, Micky Van de Ven is Tottenhams most important player. With the death-defying high line of defence we are 100% dependent on his speed and recovery runs. So you guys are way off with Maddison. Vicario is a better shout, though.
I love saka and I'm not understating his attacking contribution to arsenal, but the most important player in our team is odegaard. Without odegaard, arsenal can't seem to be scoring regularly right now.
Odegaard slander is unreal man
ARSENAL: Either SALIBA or ØDEGAARD
Saka has never really missed for any period due to injury so we don't know. But we saw how SALIBA's absence ended our title charge and we're currently seeing how in the absece of ØDEGAARD Arsenal isn't the same and lacks creativity.
EDIT: I go with ØDEGAARD based on the fact that in White, Timber and Calafiori we now have reasonable cover for Saliba, which we didn't have two seasons ago.
Did they pick a single correct player after Saka? Abysmal
Saka isn’t even correct either - Saliba is and there’s literal proof there..
My list personally would be:
Arsenal- Ødegaard
Aston Villa- Duran atm(Super Sub)
Bournemouth- Semenyo
Brentford- Mbuemo
Brighton- Mitoma
Chelsea- Palmer
Crystal Palace- Eze
Everton- McNeil
Fulham- Can't choose their isn't one main man
Ipswich- Delap
Leicster- Vardy
Liverpool- TAA
Man City- Rodri or "My Ginger Brother"
Man U- Bruno Fernades
Newcastle- Gordon
NottsForest- Wood (because I'm from New Zealand
Southampton- Ramsdale probally (I don't really know the southampton team?)
Totenham- Son when fit
WestHam- Bowen
Wolves- Cunha
Some comically bad shouts throughout this list.
Van De Ven is hardest to replace, although recent Forster performances could make Vicario even more so.
This discussion basically turned into 'At what position does every club have the least depth?' Pretty much all arguments were centered around '[Player] is most important because there is no one else in that position'. The discussion should've been more about what player made the most impact so far as an individual.
yeah, he said palmer isn’t most important because they have depth… chelsea would literally be 10th at best without palmer this season and last season
Not even a mention from odegaard is crazy 😭
hold up did this guy say callum Hudson odoi starts for spurs💀
He's ball knowledge is questionable
10:55 three draws and only lost to city and Liverpool I wouldn’t say it’s a tough start for promoted side in the prem
Lavia has outperformed Caicedo in way less appearances but none of Chelsea's attackers have reached anywhere near Palmer's level and numbers. He literally is the heartbeat of that team
They replaced Soccer AM with this...
Exactly. This is awful.
They’re appealing to the younger audience
But the guests ball knowledge are shocking
Except for Nieve of course
@@eddieherrera5314 StuntPegg and James Alcott are the only regular guests with adequate ball knowledge
@@eddieherrera5314 I don't think anyone over 10 years old would like this to be fair.
The original Soccer AM gang have started a podcast, it is pretty good
Ugochukwu over Ramsdale when he doesn’t even get in the side is interesting
Watkins for Villa, Ødegaard for Arsenal, Mbeumo for Brentford, Palmer for Chelsea , Haaland for City, MacAllister for Liverpool, Ramsdale for Southampton, Guimaraes for Newcastle, Mitoma for Brighton, Bruno Fernandez for Manchester United, Eze for Crystal Palace, Gibbs-White for Nottingham Forest, Pickford for Everton, McKenna for Ipswich, ESR for Fulham.
Give me 2 good reasons why Bruno is the most important player for man utd
McKenna's not even a player for ipswich, he's a flipping manager for them mate😂
@@adenihunadewale9214 Creativity and numbers.
@@adenihunadewale9214Even though he isn’t a good player, he still gets the most g/a in united consistently. Take them away, where would united be?
@@unknownbutfamous9698 we would still be where we are i.e inconsistent
Gravenberch for liverpool atm makes sense. I don't see how liverpools midfield can cope without him atm.
City has 3: Rodri, KDB, Haaland
Liverpool: VVD, Gravenberch
Arsenal: Odegaard (the link of the whole team), Saka
Chelsea: Palmer obviously
Villa: Watkins
Newcastle: Bruno G.
Tottenham: Maddison, Son
Man Utd: No one
Tavernier being Bournemouth's most important player cannot be a serious take. He's improved this season compared to last, but really? Lewis Cook is surely our most important
This guy is probably the reason the numbers of subscribers for this channel will halve by tomorrow.
Arsenal most important so far RAYA
ASTON Villa -Martinez
Bournemouth- Zarbanyi
Brentford-------- Mbuemo
Brighton-------- Dunk
Chelsea------- Palmer
Palace------- Eze
Everton------ McNeil
Fulham------ Andersen
Ipswich------- Delap
Leicester---- Vardy
Liverpool---- Gravenbach
Man City----- Haaland
Man City----- Onana
Newcastle----- Pope/ Bruno
Forest---------- Murillo
Southampton----- none
Spurs---------- Micky Van De Ven
West Ham------ Bowen
Wolves-------- Ait Nouri/Cunha
Liverpools most important player is van dijk, mainly cus of who the backup is. The only other arguments are alisson, trent, macca and salah but the backup for those are kelleher, bradley, curtis and chiesa/gakpo whereas van dijks backup is quansah then if konate is injured aswell we have to play gomez cb which is awful. Best player and most important for the future could be other players but van dijk is the most important for the rest of this season
Salah for Liverpool.
Most goals
Most assists
Most Big chances created...
Picking Caicedo over Palmer as Chelsea's most important player is criminal
The thing with van dijk is he brings his partner up 2 ratings every match, no offence to quansah he’s got a world class potential at centre back but if he came in nexto konate i think we’d see a huge drop off just cus van dijk is the reserved one who recovers for the other centre back multiple times a game, its like they don’t even need to check over their shoulder cus if they’re not covering something van dijk will tell them
Some of them shouts actually fried my brain.
People are so dumb, it’s not a teams best player it’s a teams most important player
Spot on with Summerville.
Isak for Newcastle is such a poor shout lol. The answer is clearly Bruno G
Tielemans not getting a mention is CRAZY
Man Utd - Lisandro Martinez
Tottenham - Vicario
Saliba, Rodri, Ramsdale, Van der Veen, Emiliano Martinez should have been up there
Odegaard actually
Arsenal-Rice
Aston Villa-Watkins
Bournemouth-Scott
Brentford-Mbuembo
Brighton-Mitoma
Chelsea-Palmer
Crystal Palace-Wharton
Everton-Pickford
Fulham-Robinson
Ipswich-Davis
Leicester-Vardy
Liverpool-Van Dijk
Man City-Rodri
Man United-Mainoo
Newcastle-Gordon
Nottingham Forest-Gibbs-White
Southampton-Ramsdale
Spurs-Son
West Ham-Bowen
Wolves-Ait-Nouri
Ødegaard is more important than Rice.
@@emzzz79 When?
@@FelixEvans-zt8ju Almost all the time for club.
@@FelixEvans-zt8ju Have you been sleeping under a rock?
@@emzzz79 Did I ask
Hardly watch these Saturday socials but I said let me just watch this one and then I remembered why I don't watch them
Cole Palmerrrr??????
Chelsea fan picking several ex Chelsea players, no surprise there then.
Ødegaard is our most important player and there is no other choice. Saka deserves all the respect, but Martin makes the whole team work. He connects everything, he leads the team on in pressuring and intensity, and also make Saka able to do what he does. The most important players are the ones who make the team around them better and he does that better than most.
odegaard?
Hinshelwood is awful mate wtf is this Chelsea fan talking about
Matisse just picking former Chelsea players
horrible ⚽ knowledge
Don't think I've seen Joe or Smithy get involved with their opinions as much before 😂 This guy's ball knowledge is painful to listen to
what did i just watch??? No Son? No odegaard? No palmer?
Arsenal: Ødegaard
Aston Villa: Emi Martinez
Bournemouth: Evanilson
Brentford: Mbeumo
Brighton: Kadıoğlu
Chelsea: Palmer
Crystal Palace: Eze
Everton: Pickford
Fulham: Leno
Ipswich: Kalvin Phillips
Leicester City: Pereira
Liverpool: Alisson
Man City: Rodri
Man United: Bruno Fernandes
Newcastle: Bruno G.
Nott'm Forest: Morgan Gibbs-White
Southampton: Ramsdale
Spurs: Son
West Ham: Guido Rodríguez
Wolves: Aït-Nouri
Allison? 😂😂😂 thats a mess
Ugarte is definitely NOT United’s most important player 😭
Tbey asked for most important player not best player and everytime this guy picks someone they all go “BUT UH HES NOT THE BEST PLAYER”
Mathis definitely only watches Chelsea. He doesn’t watch others games unless it a derby.
This is Sky Sports? Makes sense
“Actually when you look at it from this point of view” ☝️🤓
third worlder talks about real madrid like they're his club, quelle surprise
Fernandes or Mainoo for utd
Again, why don't you mix it up a bit, doing A-Z and you've ended up talking about Wolves for 30 seconds.
Onana? Right that’s me out 1:53 seconds in. This show is only decent with good guests (obvious but still)
Ugochukwu is not our most important player😂😂
Bowen is a replacement for kudus?? Huh
did he just say "Travaner"
Why’s Faysal always speaking in 1.5x?
For chelsea I would have gone for either Caceido or Gusto.
Caceido is great not a lot of replacement for him.
Gusto doesn’t have any replacement right now. We have the best RB in the work in Reece James, and we have the best back-up right back in the world in Gusto. So for that he is the most crucial for me.
Caicedo is great 😂😂😂 and Reece James couldn't even lace Trent Alexander-Arnolds boots. Lauren James is a better player 😂
@@TheOfficialGobbIedyGooker Such a fifa merchant.
James isn’t that far behind Trent when it comes to delivery of balls, but he is clear of Trent on Physicality and Defending.
Players hate coming up against James, their only hope is that he gets injured. Trent is the 2nd most dribbled past player in the league, the most dribbled past defender.
James is elite all round, Trent is the best passer but average and terrible at everything else.
Turned it off at Onana xd. Onana is doing great but he is probably 5th/6th so far this season. UTV
Arsenal would fall apart without Saliba, fact. Or even Raya at the minute that keeper has kept that team in games.
As a Bournemouth fan, Tav?! Really? He was sensational under GON but under iraola hes really struggled. Id say either Christie or Zabarnyi are our key players.
His ball knowledge is 0.00%
As a villa fan I’d go Morgan Rogers
4:53 ‘Ivan Ferguson’
CHO isn't even in our top 3 most important players I would say.
I saw that caicedo picture and I hopped off the video
Caicedo? VALID. He is fantastic!
Don't ever call that guy again to Saturday socials. Thank You.
Great to see matisee here❤