Ep. 5 The Retro Wave of the Early 2000's
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
- A classic car connaisseur is going to tell you the story of the big sudden wave of retro styled cars in the early 00's, as well as talking about the history of retro design in general!
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Im ready for a return of the pop up headlights.
POP UP UP-AND-DOWN HEADLIGHTS!
And hood ornaments
The difficulty with pop up headlights is that when they are down it is aerodynamic. But as soon as they go up it just ruins everything.
Further a thing with both pop up headlights and hood ornaments is pedestrian safety. Imagine getting hit by a car and then a jaguar hood ornaments stabs you in the kidney as well.
@@sylux3618 don't be a pedestrian peasant then
theyre suppose to go down when hit or just soft and you dont race at night
There is also a 4th strategy "the fake fake nostalgia" strategy: bring back a name but ruin the name with an SUV crossover or something.
Example Mitsubishi Eclipse.
Or the Ford Mustang Mach-E which is a fully electric SUV
Yes.... sadly
The mach-E makes me mad because the only thing that connects it to the mustang is the rear lights
@@KleanShots People who want a mustang dont want an EV, and the people looking to buy an EV dont want it to be called "Mustang" they want shit like "springwater" or "iCX-ev" to read on the back.
@@vadenummela9353 exactly why even use the name then. The two audiences are opposing
The most recent example we have , is the New Ford Bronco. I believe another wave of retro design is starting.
Yep. There's also the Honda e, Hyundai Ioniq 5, Land Rover Defender, Luka EV, Nissan Z, Peugeot e-Legend (concept) and the Renault 5 (concept).
@@evolt7553 Yeah we are heading into another era of past designs. I’m glad to see it being done better.
Yeah also the new 400z. I can’t wait my 2nd retro wave with the 1st being when I was young with the 5th gen mustangs
Also the Alpine A110, Peugeot 508, Fiat 124, Suzuki Jimny, Honda S660 and Hummer EV
Yep. They’re doing it a lot better than they did in the past. The 5th Gen Mustangs still look great today.
You’re like the car version of Sam O’Nella and I love it
This is the first video I've seen of this guys and seeing this comment makes me excited.
how i misses his content
S a l m o n e l l a
rip sam o nella he was hilarious
OMG SO TRUE
I’m ready for ‘80s retro cars. I want an updated Ford EXP and Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme.
It is interesting how we’re seeing the now retro 80’s cars coming back. Jeep with the Grand Wagoneer, the Bronco, who knows what’s next!
@@TheHVACkid those are tributes to cars from the 60s. I want an updated Fiero or Tempo.
The Ioniq 5 is definitely late 70's-early 80's retro design.
The last gen Silverado was a retro GMT400.
There is already a new Renault 5/Le Car EV in the concept stage
Yup, he's Dutch. Had a good laugh. Thumbs UP!
Toyota Century in Japan -- this has to be a good domestic retro example :)
I remember the 91’ to 92’ caprice being a new car with a retro look because of the skirted rear. Giving it the look of the 60’s and 70’s caprice which I find was cool
More like the early 60s with the Bubbletop
The best retro car by far is the Lada Riva. It it still in production to this day and looks exactly the same as it did 40 years ago. It also has the same engine, same suspension, same interior, same... everything...
That isn't retro by definition. If it's stayed the same since initial production then it can only be called living history.
and the production ended in 2014
If retro makes a full comeback I’m not sold until I see some pop up headlights
Pop ups only really fit slant-nosed boxy cars from the late 80s that outlasted their welcome into the early 90s.
Modern bubble-body ultra pedestrian-safe cars dont really afford it.
@@vadenummela9353 Ever heard of the miata or rx7?
What about the really early ones like the ones on the '69 Charger? Those were sick!
@@Maddiedoggie fold-open headlights. Only really works on cars with large vertical surfcars like the front grille on a musclecar.
Not pedestrian-safe
The Mini Cooper and the Mustang GT started it all. Following that It was Ford again after the failure of the GT90 and said, "The only way forward, is to go back." After that, the new Ford GT concept debuted and everyone lost their minds. The retro wave has begun.
Porsche 911 is unchanged retro
@@mettibardhi853 meh, the 911 was exceptional. It's like the default setting where everyone got used to it. Btw, I forgot the Beetle though, it also contributed on the international wave big time! But the "new" Beetle was less effective on the market unlike the Mini and the Mustang where everyone around the globe wanted one.
@@JMDrivesthe New Mustang is muscle car like an old Mustang, its V8 rear wheel drive and doesnt cost so much, there is a lot of great American cars but I think Mustang is speciell, without Mustang you couldnt have Camaros and Dodge Challengers, Mini is okay but more like a Lady bag and New Beetle is just a another Vw Golf
Look the New Retro Ora Punk Cat
@@mettibardhi853 What are you into? You've gone out of direction. The point already ended up there. ^
@@JMDrives I will try to say some cars are created from beginning to success för example old beetle, mini mustang etc and sometimes carcompanies try too repeat by creating retro models,
I dont think a New retro porsche 911 based on porsche 928 it would be a success like it is porsche 911 or 992 today, sometimes its fun too see retro cars coming back
As an Aussie, I thought it was hilarious you didn't include Tasmania in the map of Australia. We generally think the same thing 😂
Well Tasmania has a climate similar to central and northern Europe, so it doesn't fit in with his image of Australia's "insufferable heat". That may be why he deleted it from his map of Australia.
Honestly, the late 2000 challengers we're pretty good at retro. I didn't even notice it looked like the '70s Challenger. Until I saw a side-by-side in the video. Honestly a great way to put a retro design into a modern car.
Cant wait for the revival of long hoods, rearwheel drive as standard and thick steel frames...
Wait
Haha I’m from the UK and when you switch to the English accent you had me stitches 😂
You could also include the grilles which Rover fitted to its entire range, from the early 90s onwards, which harked back to the P6 from the 50s.
Man, I can't wait for Pontiac to make a retro inspired Trans Am!
/starts to cry in dead GM brand
The Nissan Pike cars and Yamaha Vino scooter were the best modern retro cars/cycles, a great combination of stock drivetrain components and retro styled bodies with fine details.
In the 1980s lead-up there is also the 1982 or so Imperial, the 2nd gen Cadillac Seville, and the second gen Lincoln Versailles. All of these vehicles featured a 'bustleback' that referenced earlier Rolls Royces. Another car that features this subtly in the early 2000s was the initial Mercedes 4-door 'coupe'.
Also the Lincoln Mark 7
@@nickrustyson8124 Kind of but not strictly
Great video, great channel I just found. Kind of surprised there were no mentions of the Viper though, I feel like it was one of the cars that kick started the retro styling trend of the 2000's all the way back in the early 90's with it's attempt of being a modern day Shelby Cobra. I guess you could also throw in the NA Miata as it was styled to look and drive like the 60's Lotus Elan. I bet every design-head who was responsible for making the retro style cars in the 2000's looked at those two and their success in the 90's and thought it was brilliant
Miata shouldve made it to the list
I like my Rover 75 because it’s a retro styled car but drives with modern handling & ease. I subscribe to the once a generation theory, about every thirty years things come back into vogue & are popular again. In the 1980’s the 50’s was popular in popular culture, since the 2010’s the 80’s are popular & now the 2020’s are here the the 1990’s is getting attention again. The Rover 75 styling was conceived in the mid nineties as a throwback to early sixties styling.
The USA is not a continent. Also, in "Yurop", the Beetle was more expensive than the larger (and already costly) Golf, so it appealed to practically no one. Reason is import costs, all units had to be shipped across the pond as it wasn't made here.
The USA is not a continent, but he said 'we'll look at them one continent at a time'.
There are precisely zero vehicles from a non-US nation on either the South or North American continent that had retro styling.
So if you go through each continent you would start with... well the only country on either continent that has at least retro vehicle... which would be the US.
@@tim3172 The Beetle was manufactured in Mexico, as was the PT Cruiser and others. But, yes, I assume you mean none from a manufacturer based in other nations and that may be true.
@@tim3172 he called the USA a continent at 7:45
Ah, but the Golf didn't come with the little "flower power" vase, making the Beetle worth every penny/pfennig/Euro cent.
Absolutely love my 500 Cabrio with standard transmission. In a world of orthopedic shoe looking crossovers with angry front facias, it's nice to have a car that looks genuinely happy to see you and evokes a time when style in car design was king and handles turns like a Go-Kart. As James May once said of the car, it's as much car as you need, and no further.
On the topic of what's with all the trendy city cars, parallel parking with one feels like you're playing with Cheats on, oh and in the States you get to claim compact car parking spots up front while all the trucks, SUVs, and crossovers have to park miles away.
We've got a 2011 HHR (High Heritage Roof) Super Sport with a 2.4 four banger ..my wife drives it & loves the fact she can fold the back seats down & carry her art canvases & art supplies
I own a 2010 HHR LT, except mine‘s a shitbox and I hate it.
You forgot to mention the NA Mazda Miata that took inspiration from the Lotus Elan and the Honda S2000 which took inspiration from the Honda s800
As well as the Nissan Fairlady Z
Yes especially the Miata in 1989
And the honda s660 neo classic
This is informative and entertaining. I love the humour. The British impersonations used for discussing retro UK models was fantastic.
Also, in Australia Holden revived the 60s era Monaro nameplate for the then new 2 door coupe based off of the 4 door Holden Commodore.
Thank you, Ed. Just by mentioning the 1975 Monte Carlo, you brought back fond memories. 1975 was my personal favorite year for the Monte Carlo's styling.
Excellent content thanks RUclips algorithm I also own a Rover 75 despite being 40-50 years younger than the general demographic that these cars attract
The Citroen C3 was a modern take on the 2CV I thought
Came here looking for this comment, have an upvote!
let's call it "a nice try" - like the Dyane, LN, VISA and AX before it. THERE IS NO REPLACMENT FOR THE ORIGINAL 2CV.
2005 Ford Mustang is my favorite retro car. It's sexy and Ford did it justice 👍
I like how "retro" is confined with 80s music, like the way retro means 80s.
Vw new beetles are severely underrated
Yessir
Family had one and from memory went really well
My friend has a red '99. It's pretty cool.
AND THEY WEREN'T CITY CARS. IT WAS A GOLF UNDERNEATH. STILL DRIVING MY '01 CYPRESS GREEN GLX AND LOVING IT.
I love mine!
CAN'T...RESIST... *_IT LIVES IN MY HEART AND LIFE!!!_*
*"Say, say, 2000-00, party over*
*Oops, out of time*
*So tonight I'm gonna party*
*like it's 1999"*
(When we lost Prince my better half made a pilgrimage to Paisley Park. She left an offering of her own, as well as my gold-plated red-zircon-encrusted fleur-de-lis cufflinks that I'd worn to so, so many hedonistic affairs. Prince gave us hope in a very dark world exactly when we needed it. 💕 )
My 1990 Oldsmobile cutlass wagon had wood panel decals and old style spoke wheels, and it was a throwback to the 70’s models
Within my village in Surrey UK, there is a Mitsouka dealer, a second hand dealer of Kei cars mainly Nissan Figaro's, and a whole lot of minis. It is also full of very wealthy boomers. Make of that what you will....
I really wish I didn't have to wait 35 years to import a Mitsuoka Orochi into the USA. I know it's a controversial design but I quite love it.
You forgot one of the first and best retro-cars.
The BMW Z8 which is a retro version of the iconic BMW 507
2000-03 BMW Z8, retro styling of the 56-59 BMW 507, comes to mind. Beautiful in either form
I proudly drive a car of this era, the best car because it's my car, my durable nicely running 2006 Chrysler Pt Cruiser nicknamed the silver bullet. I plan on keeping my car, though it's a pt cruiser, for as long as I can drive. I've heard enough of people saying that they wished they kept their first cars. Mines nothing cool compared to the muscle cars or other cool cars but my Chrysler is very much special to me and there's no amount of hate that'll make me think again about the silver bullet.
Plus you can cargo so much stuff in that car, it's surprisingly twice as big inside than it looks outside !
@@ebwholesaler yeah it is, my car is also nicknamed the grocery getter
@@liberals_destroy_everythin2497 yeah extra parts
I had one. And thought of it as a small station wagon.
For Japan: What about the Honda S2000 roadster being a larger modern version of the 1960s S500 roadster
Also the Impreza Casa Blanca from Subaru
Also the MX5 NA which was the retro interpretation of the old Lotus Elan.
I think the bigger thing is that Japan's golden age of auto design came about in the 80's and 90's. I thibk the revival of the Supra is kicking off their retro era, but hopefully with performance chasing instead of just style cues.
It's not really retro styling, though.
It may be a 'revival' of the Japanese roadster/sports car but the styling doesn't really use... any... (?) strong cues from the older models.
So it's not really retro, imo.
@@noahh914 Again, the Elan is more 'modern interpretation' or revival than retro.
I’ve loved the 2nd Gen Monte Carlo since I was a kid! Liked them better when they refreshed them in ‘76 with the stacked headlights!
Man has obviously never heard of the Ford Australia AU Falcon with its Waterfall grill mimicking cars from the 30s and 40s on earlier models and an overall styling that looks rather like what was considered "sleek concept" roughly a decade before
Now I live in fear of automobile industy looking back 30 years and finding such iconic gems as the Ford Taurus, Chevrolet Cavalier, Vauxhall Cavalier, Plymouth Neon....
Sweet merciful crap!
I love hearing European's take on things it's refreshing
7:43 perfectly describes America, the scream absolutely killed me
Note the Monte Carlo started with that design in 1973, but the 1970-72 shown examples of that
Personally my favorite car designs come these years. I adore old vintage cars!
Excellent. I'm glad that you made the connection between the Chevy SSR, HHR, and the original Advance Design pickups/suburbans. I remember seeing an early pre production example of the PT Cruiser at the Canadian International Auto Show a few years before it was launched, and being impressed with the concept design. It didn't turn out to be the best quality of vehicle, but they still have a following today. Anyway, thanks for another interesting history video!🙂
Remember the Ford Windstar, the Aurora Oldsmobile, the first Toyota Prius, the first Ford F-150, and a bunch of Volvos, oh yeah, and the Pontiac
For Australia, GM Holden revived the Monaro nameplate! Only the name alone as a two door coupé.
May have already been said but I'm sad to not see it in your list regardless as I own one!
Holden also did, for the VF Commodore generation a "Sandman" wagon and ute variant which dates back to the original HK Sandman panel Van!
Vauxhall brought out a new small car called the Viva. The Viva name was used on a large saloon in the 1960s and they revived it as a completely new car.
Wow this video was pretty quality. Good job man I'll be tuning in to some others.
I am absolutely in love with your videos, currently binge watching your back catalogue of playlists!! ❤❤❤
The year 2000 joke nearly killed me 🎉🎉
Volvo did some kind of this retro thing on some design elements in the early 2000s, too. But not that obviously. The C30 as successor of the 480 (which was a successor of the P1800ES).
And they reintroduced some general design elements on all models. Most noticeable is the "shoulder", which disappeared in the early 90s.
I just found this channel and its amazing thank you for the fantastic content :)
9:34 "Guten Tag, meine Freunde!" Lmao 😂
What does freunde mean
Freunde = Friends
actually the figaro IS indeed heavily inspired by an older car - the datsun sports roadsters. Name is different but anyone who knows the original car knows it's a mini-revival of the old model from the 60s
Here! Here! Sweet Sweet modernization of a Datsun 2000. Very well done.
Never knew of the existence of the Nissan Figaro until I ran across one at a car show recently: saw it sitting there and thought for sure it was a 1950's/early 1960's vintage car and was surprised that it was manufactured in 1991. A dead ringer for late 1950's/early 1960's small car styling thought it was the coolest looking car.
If they actually developed a lot of these more and actually out time into em a lot would be pretty kick ass
New subscriber. Informative and funny. Keepem coming
I enjoyed driving my sister's 2001 VW Beetle when I did - it being large enough inside for me to fit in with my height that I couldn't with the originals! But I was disappointed that they decided to completely overhaul the classic design instead of making more modern modifications to the original!
AT 6' I HAVE TO PULL THE SEAT FORWARD TO BE ABLE TO DEPRESS THE CLUTCH.
People keep thinking the year 2000 was the start of the new Millennium,but it was just the last year of the 20th century.
Dude tf u talkin bout
@noodlecat No he's actually right, look it up.
Well it’s all a bit trivial but intriguing nonetheless:
When you are born it’s your birthday but not your first birthday because you’re zero years old. When you turn ten you’re celebrating your eleventh birthday, but also not really because you only have one real birthday so it’s actually your tenth commemoration of your birthday.
So yeah centuries and such.
Oh look, a bird!
@@RustOnWheels ok man my mind just blew up but i think i've understanded what you mean, thanks
OK, 20 YRS LATER LET'S GIVE IT A REST ALREADY.
I spotted a '51 Studebaker Commander sedan in Blairsville, GA the other day.
Brought back memories of learning to drive in a 20-plus-year-old example when I was a kid.
When are they gonna bring back the two-row corn-picker P-38 look with three-on-the-tree with overdrive and the starter button under the clutch pedal? And back windows that wrap all the way from one B-pillar to the other like my Starlight Coupe? And that funky retro (even for 1951) V8 badge on the rear deck with the airplane-style license light and lid latch?
I'd add the Chrysler PT Cruiser for #2. Looks like a 37 Ford.
Even Chrysler admitted it was inspired by a 37 Ford.
I have a feeling that the Indian Hindustan Ambassador is going to have a retro remake in the next 10 years
As a kid from the 90s all of sudden retro was cool swing music came back a lot of restaurants starting to decorate like 50s diners for whatever reason the mid century retro designs took over everything honestly cars were the last thing to get the retro treatment
I've never, and will never understand the hate for the last generation of the Thunderbird. Its the only retro car, that actually lives up to the original car! The original Thunderbird was not offered with ford's biggest engine. Hence the 4.2 v8 instead of the 4.6/5.4 triton. 2 seat, roadster car, with a hardtop piece. Modest interior, with sharp styling. The last ford Thunderbird is a win.
I may be biased, I used to own a 007 edition.
Found this video and while watching yt reconmended another video of yours, seeing the title of that and the content of this video earned a sub. Well done video, keep growing :)
There's this kei car in japan N box Slash, they got the regular NBox which is a mini.micro van (660cc engine), cut down the roof by 10cm, stripped the sliding doors and styled it with american nostalgia, my model is the red roof/white body california diner which has red fake leather seats and door trim with checkered pattern across the panel, a subwoofer, heated steering wheel and front seats.
The back door handles are like the vezel ones to create the impression of a coupe. You can call it an abhorrent sacrilege but I really love mine
The Bronco, LR Defender, Daytona concept and Challanger/Muscle cars, Jeep Wagoneer Wranger, Lincoln car line , Rolls Royce, Bentleys, Ora brand of China Aurus, Chrysler 300 still selling all prove that the early 2000s retro never really died. It shifted eras and genera to the50s, 60s and 70s even 80s but lives despite every attempt at pounding that stake into its heart. This said I think the first of the retro craze was the Dodge Viper which was a take on the Shelby Cobra mustang
I think the most notable thing that could have been included is the Alpine A110, but I would also like to draw your attention to things like the Nissan March Bolero and Toyota Starlet Carat as retro styled “luxury” trim levels were popular with japanese automakers for a while there
Thank you for reminding me of the beautiful Holden Efijy which I think was in the game Test Drive Unlimited (or was available as a mod for that), and Rockstar made a version for GTA V.
I just realized I had two of these, and want literally all of them. Haha
I really hope in 10-15 years from now, designers won't be looking at cars from 2000-2010 for inspiration.
first of all, great stories... its fun to watch your vids... and learning a lot, most of us car history... what makes this ep 5 so special is the "STA-TO 4"... STA in german is Starnberg; a rich and wealth community "outside" of munich... about 25-30 kilometers... there are truly rich and wealthy people there...the so called bohemians...
I think you missed a noteworthy retro car from that era. The BMW Z8 cabrio is a retro 507 re-issue which was truly excellent.
LOVED the Trump "China" image!! I knew I liked you!!!!
what i remember. was that the pt cruiser came out, and it had a 40s sedan woody look, and it was going to be a crap chrysler product, and it exploded it was everywhere, and every brand had to do it too.
My dad drove an FJ cruiser. He loved it. Rear seat passengers did not so much.
I love your accent when you did the brit cars 😭
Watching this reminds me of those people who put a willys badge on their brand new keep that has 20,000 in off-road stuff and has never gotten washed
Kinda hope a few old trends from like the 50’s or 90’s come back in a way, like wall design, decor, or even just fashion
Ed your insight and humour is awesome
Subaru also made retro styled cars in the 90's but only in japan i think.
Things like the casa blanca impreza or the Vivio Bistro
Hilarious and informative at the same time, I had to subscribe 😃
I really don't mind retro because the companies do a good job inputting the classic look with a modern take. We can always go back to these vehicles. Sure, few of these vehicles were 100% concentrated fecal matter (PT Cruiser, New Beetle), but the designs were well executed and many people liked the looks.
Auto makers need to bring back the “Smokers window”. The little glass pane that you can open to help bring fresh air into the car.
I have a 2003 SSR, I love it so much
From 2001 to 2005, General Motors Holden in Australia reissued the iconic MONARO, originally produced late 60s to early 70s. Sort of a muscle-car-coupe-thingy.
The Mitzouko...er...Mitsiouka...whatever. The "Rock Star" looks like an early 60's Corvette Stingray. Very cool.
I recommend the lovely retro Suzuki Lapin.
i actually just discovered the nissan figaro like last week and i was so surprised it was from the early 90s and not like 2007-2009. tbh it could easily be released today as an electric car like the honda E with very few designt changes. its really really good
Great videos. I'm learning lots, coming from a car guy. Cheers
The France had another car with retro look, the Renault Twingo in the Third generation (Ok, it is from 2014, not from 2000s). This Third generation of the Twingo reminds the Renault 5 (1972-1996)
The Efijy is lovely! I wish I could buy one. ❤️
The Mitsuoka website is wild. The description for the Rock Star had me in tears with laughter.
It's said amongst a lot of car Literature that the PT Cruiser was actually designed by Plymouth. The Plymouth design was inspired in part by the Plymouth Pick up truck ( front at least ) and then the design was taken away by Chrysler but as a last punch back they ( Plymouth) coded the car as PT CRUISER which is named based on its inspiration... (P)lymouth (T)ruck . This story actually makes sense when you look at what Plymouth did a year prior with the Prowler ( which while inspired by 30s hot rods also has a grill design also very reminiscent of the Plymouth Pick up truck )
P.S the jaguar s type was actually built on a Ford chasis and actually the S Type was released by Ford. Many people don't know or forgot Ford owned Jaguar from 99 to 08 .
Great videos sir, and you've scored me as a subscriber. Just one little word of advice, though. Australia has a little triangular island at the bottom called Tasmania. It's where Taz Devil comes from, and while the island is tiny, it is actually one of the country's six states. I'm clinging to that little plot of land right now, and since it is the middle of Winter, it's bloody cold! Head south from here and your next stop is Antarctica.
I had a Chevrolet HHR and it was supposed to be a throwback to the chevry delivery wagons back in late 50s early 60s. One thing I can say is the build quality on the HHR was very good. It did have some interesting features that I have not seen from akash from Chevrolet sense. For instance the sound deadening in that car was not plastic it was not rubber it was not any type of polyurethane it was closed cell foam that was about 3 inches thick on the inside of each door. It made the car from stock a great candidate for aftermarket car stereos and when you drove around with all the electronics off it was Dang near silent. The only reason I had to get rid of it is because they really do not do well on winter roads in Minnesota. The problem is not that it is front wheel drive no the problem is the exceptionally long wheelbase made for very poor handling characteristics in snow. I do miss the very up tall sit up straight easy to get in and out of characteristics that that car had. Not a great car for parents though because most rear facing child safety seats do not fit in it.
That Mitsuoka Buddy concept car is literally an ND Mazda Miata cosplaying as a Corvette C3. Look at the interior shots on their site!
It is kinda neat!
The buddy is based off the current gen rav4 and the Rockstar is the miata that is cosplaying the c3
Wrong model pal
Buddy: inspired by the Chevy Blazer uses a Toyota RAV4 as base
Rockstar: inspired by the Corvette Stingray C3 uses a Mazda MX5 as base
For the Japanese cars, you forgot the successful Mazda Miata/MX5 witch is a sort of retro car inspired by Lotus Elan !