Targa Florio 1972 Alfa Romeo Tipo 33

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  • @paulsnider174
    @paulsnider174 12 лет назад +82

    This piece is from, in my opinion, the best documentary ever on motor racing, "The Speed Merchants" by Michael Keyser. Shot in 1972, it debuted at Watkins Glen during the 1973 6Hour/Can-Am weekend where I saw it while I was there photographing a Porsche 917 driver for publicity. I miss the simplicity, and cars of those times.

  • @kiwi335d
    @kiwi335d Месяц назад +15

    Thanks for generously recommending this video Neil Clifford.

  • @PC-lv8dq
    @PC-lv8dq 4 года назад +94

    You know what i really liked about that romantic era? Yes, there was money involved, but it was mainly about the passion for motorracing. The drivers, although they needed more bravery than nowadays, more seemed ordinary men that you could ask for a signature or even do a quick conversation with if you were lucky, now it all really has become something very stiff, only reserved for the elite of the elite, where you can't actually talk to or compare yourself to as a casual fan. It used to be a little bit more 'left wing'. I don't say i have no respect for the drivers nowadays, but for me these guys stay the real heroes forever. End of the '60s, begin '70s was the most dangerous but also the most beautiful of all motorsport eras. Thx for posting this little gem of a movie!

    • @team3383
      @team3383 4 года назад +21

      Every single successful spectator sport on the planet has been taken over by "federations" that rule them and sell them out for TV rights for BIG money. This is why motorsport has become so regulated and boring now.
      Todays drivers aren't people with a life, they start driving competitively at the age of 5 or 6 and know nothing else.
      Its sad.
      Business and corporations have taken over.
      I used to enjoy watching International Rugger games when you knew that the week after the top games the men playing would all be back at work, most in manual jobs, some in shops etc.
      Then it turned professional and the game changed, the people changed the players look like body builders etc.
      Sad sad world.
      I soumd like my forefathers, but boy do I understand them now when they said the same things about us !!!

    • @mikefannon6994
      @mikefannon6994 4 года назад +9

      Yes. not that long ago you could drive your MG, Triumph, 240Z, Jag, etc. to an SCCA race, paint on a number, tape the headlights, strap on your helmet, and go racing! TV money has killed all amateur sports. Even Olympics.

    • @donniecapobianco8794
      @donniecapobianco8794 4 года назад +1

      it's funny cause racing competitions started out as an event of the elites.

    • @GTE_Channel
      @GTE_Channel 2 года назад +1

      And in theory anyone could build a good racing car in his own shed. What a great times this must have been

    • @Toby_the_Glen
      @Toby_the_Glen 6 месяцев назад

      Sponsors changed motorsport?

  • @Demetris.Yiokkas
    @Demetris.Yiokkas 10 лет назад +77

    Best ever documentary in motor sport. Captures the romantic era like no other. Thanks Michael Keyser

    • @Bepis13
      @Bepis13 4 года назад +1

      I had no clue this type of video ever existed. My god

  • @paladino444
    @paladino444 Месяц назад +3

    Italy, Sicily, Italians, Sicilians.... and racing. There simply has never been a country so generous to racing and I say that as an American. Those people are just special when it comes to cars and racing.

  • @salvatorep.1685
    @salvatorep.1685 5 лет назад +9

    Questo non è un documentario ma un monumento.

  • @Porsche996driver
    @Porsche996driver 4 года назад +15

    Vic Elford a living legend. Pick up one of his driving books and appreciate his rally skills in the earliest 911s in the mid-‘60s. When men were men and sheep were scared.

  • @MsLilyhorse
    @MsLilyhorse 12 лет назад +27

    In so many ways it was, not perfect, but more relaxed. I miss those days. So much tension and anxiety these days. Miss the Can Am racing too.

  • @RRVCrinale
    @RRVCrinale 5 лет назад +17

    I know why this era went away. Doesn't stop me missing it.

    • @rockets4kids
      @rockets4kids Месяц назад

      4:16 Too many people were dying.

  • @farmer_siv
    @farmer_siv Месяц назад +35

    Niel Clifford sent me here. 😅

    • @andtip
      @andtip Месяц назад +2

      Me too 😂

    • @bh-pn1tr
      @bh-pn1tr Месяц назад +1

      Was that Neil with an 'e'? If so, it's the same for me!

  • @1258-Eckhart
    @1258-Eckhart 4 года назад +7

    Thanks so much for uploading this!

  • @bambinello100
    @bambinello100 13 лет назад +6

    grazie x questo video ho rivissuto l'emozione del duello fra Ferrari e l'Alfa di Galli

  • @davidmarshall6409
    @davidmarshall6409 Месяц назад +3

    Fantastic film. Thanks for the recommendation Neil Clifford.

  • @michaelrobinson114
    @michaelrobinson114 Месяц назад

    Truly wonderful video , thank you @Neil Clifford

  • @TheSeeka
    @TheSeeka 12 лет назад +7

    One of my favourite videos on classic Motorsport. I keep watching it over and over again. As an Alfa driver it stirs my soul. Thank you.

  • @pingsprayer7314
    @pingsprayer7314 5 лет назад +12

    we need more footage of this greatest race of all!! great video!

    • @fernweh8709
      @fernweh8709 5 лет назад +2

      It would be incredible to watch a full lap

  • @signorpippistrello
    @signorpippistrello 4 года назад +13

    5:15 Well, he wouldn’t. Later that year a stone went straight through his visor resulting in the loss of an eye and ultimately ending his driver career. But he still holds the lap record! Great video btw, thanks for sharing it!

  • @chriskelleher349
    @chriskelleher349 4 года назад +5

    Helmut Marko with some deserved accolades. He's still in the game 50 years later in 2020.
    Vic Elford still healthy too last I heard.

    • @terrystevens5261
      @terrystevens5261 Месяц назад

      Sadly he developed cancer about a year after your post and passed away in 2022. R.I.P.

  • @chrisdooley6468
    @chrisdooley6468 4 года назад +8

    The poor local lol. Love Sicily. Such a wonderful people and gorgeous scenery

  • @terrystevens5261
    @terrystevens5261 Месяц назад

    Quite a few GP drivers of the era in this race. Marko was Elfords team mate in sports cars and lost an eye in 1972 driving for BRM in the French GP when a stone went through his visor. Elfords last GP was Germany 1971 also for BRM.

  • @haraldschon7794
    @haraldschon7794 5 лет назад +6

    Alfa Romeö is rocking!

  • @vinibisetto
    @vinibisetto 4 года назад +2

    Bravo! Macchina stupenda!

  • @ZxRx7
    @ZxRx7 4 года назад +9

    God, engine sounds were so intoxicating during this era.

  • @McLarenMercedes
    @McLarenMercedes 12 лет назад +5

    Yes, there was Can-Am too at that time. Can-Am had no upper displacement limit so the most powerful cars had 800hp engines, until Porsche arrived with their 917-10 turbo which developed more than 900hp.
    In USAC racing (Indycars were called that back then) they did a 200mph average speed lap (322km/h) in Ontario in 1972. The car developed around 1100hp and did around 240mph (388km/h) on the straights.
    Sporscar racing was pretty hairy too.
    Wish I had been alive back then. Pure racing.

  • @paullacey2999
    @paullacey2999 4 года назад +1

    Fantastic!I was too young for this but i love the total madness of it all!Vic Elford is one of my favourite drivers,multi talented in all manner of cars racing and rallying.Proper sounding cars not popping and banging every other bend......Great Film!

  • @RickyJr46
    @RickyJr46 4 года назад +2

    What a fantastic tale, Vic!

  • @caribman10
    @caribman10 Месяц назад

    Love the VW service bus parked nearly on the cornering line at 6:00. Also, unsaid, the "spectators" field-strip any abandoned race cars on the circuit.

  • @GalavantT
    @GalavantT 13 лет назад +1

    Fenomenal footage from that golden era, much obliged to hear those sounds.

  • @alastairwhite1607
    @alastairwhite1607 Месяц назад +6

    Thanks Neil

  • @seanhammon6639
    @seanhammon6639 Месяц назад

    Wow. How wonderful. What a magnificent advert for our Italian brothers and sisters.

  • @fabrizioc1411
    @fabrizioc1411 4 года назад +2

    Che tempi...😍

    • @andysedgley
      @andysedgley 4 года назад +1

      Sempre nei nostri cuori

  • @TheRealThomasPaine1776
    @TheRealThomasPaine1776 4 года назад +1

    Agreed, very cool! Events like that are long gone!! Love seeing the GTVs out there!

  • @amish15552
    @amish15552 12 лет назад +17

    "The trick at the Targa Florio, aside from staying on the road, is to go as fast as possible for as long as possible"...hmmm, that simple, ehh Vic?

  • @leonardotoro9386
    @leonardotoro9386 4 года назад

    Thanks to load this stuff on youtube!! Such a good ancient visual document!! Pure racing, romantic era of motoring sport unthinkable nowadays!!! why I didn´t see this before?? now is when I start to live...

  • @TheFokker03
    @TheFokker03 10 лет назад +3

    a true classic road race,sorely missed.

  • @palmaleter252
    @palmaleter252 2 года назад +4

    Rest in Peace Vic Elford

  • @kasimirdenhertog3516
    @kasimirdenhertog3516 4 года назад +4

    Those cars... every single one of them would be a centerpiece at an auction nowadays 🤑

  • @GeorgesMiniatureCars
    @GeorgesMiniatureCars 4 года назад

    Fantastic film! Love seeing vintage racing and hearing the stories about the drivers.

  • @kickerman8
    @kickerman8 12 лет назад +5

    Thumbs up if you want Speed channel to start playing things like this again!

    • @tominator23
      @tominator23 Месяц назад

      Lol, thumbs up if you want speed channel again!

  • @swankboy
    @swankboy 12 лет назад +46

    Sad that 1972 seems like a better time.

    • @jcoast1
      @jcoast1 5 лет назад +8

      better time for all who survived

    • @LRiper
      @LRiper 4 года назад +7

      Nobody is interested in motorsport racing nowadays. Young people only care about Instagram, Facebook and smartphones.

    • @cristogreyling4736
      @cristogreyling4736 4 года назад +1

      Pretty Penny Hate Doctor it was a better time...

  • @ptomptang8801
    @ptomptang8801 8 лет назад +7

    brilliant little film of legendary race

    • @jpkatz1435
      @jpkatz1435 4 года назад

      Except, sometimes, too much "music", when the the car itself is the music we want to hear.

  • @massimobernardo-
    @massimobernardo- 9 лет назад +8

    bellissimo grazie

  • @Pfessor_Moriarty
    @Pfessor_Moriarty 4 года назад

    God be with the days...... great piece on the Targa.

  • @kuseetha.
    @kuseetha. Месяц назад

    Amazing video, love it!!

  • @ManuelLopez-sb3eo
    @ManuelLopez-sb3eo 4 года назад +1

    Muy peligroso, pero bellísimo espectáculo. Lancia Fulvia y, sobre todo, Alfa Romeo 105, siempre en mi corazón.

  • @futuretiger
    @futuretiger 12 лет назад +5

    Great onboard footage!

  • @shankarbalan3813
    @shankarbalan3813 Месяц назад

    Motor Racing ans Sports car driving in those days required real skill. Now most of the work is done by computer. Anyone can own or drive a sports car nowadays. But the magic is gone.

  • @JONACAN
    @JONACAN 5 лет назад

    What a beautiful video.

  • @fidan2fast
    @fidan2fast 8 лет назад +87

    ..lat year... huh... last year I hit a local... :O

    • @jinxed_jinxed_3443
      @jinxed_jinxed_3443 6 лет назад +12

      But the locals loved the race so much, they didn't mind being run over now and then :)

    • @carstenvang9193
      @carstenvang9193 4 года назад

      Nobody got hurt. Just having a nice time.

    • @llamamanism
      @llamamanism 4 года назад +4

      The victim probably felt really privileged to be hit by a famous driver in an Italian Alfa

  • @achilleribolla88
    @achilleribolla88 6 лет назад +1

    grande filmato con commento del mitico Vic Elford

  • @marinjeam
    @marinjeam 4 года назад

    This footage is the "Godfather" of car documentaries.You can smell the cars and Sicilian wine.

  • @joako2706
    @joako2706 13 лет назад +6

    Sheer lunacy !That is what modern motorsports needs.

  • @rothlis18
    @rothlis18 4 года назад +13

    When there was no fear of being sued. Because back then one owned their responsibility and acceptance of risk. Nor did every kid get a medal back then either.

  • @fernandomayer2232
    @fernandomayer2232 4 года назад

    Who is the crazy man that give "no like" in this video? AMAZING Vídeo!!

  • @rrrmo
    @rrrmo 14 лет назад +2

    Che tempi !

    • @giovannifasano5868
      @giovannifasano5868 7 лет назад +2

      rrrmo targa florio72cero anch'io Fasano Giovanni abhart 2000

    • @giovannifasano5868
      @giovannifasano5868 7 лет назад +2

      lo sanno tutti ln Sicilia che oh corso 71 72fiat abhart 2000prototipo Fasano Giovanni oggi 84anni grazie

    • @giovannifasano5868
      @giovannifasano5868 7 лет назад

      liveblog.sport.sky.it/Event/GP_Giappone_le_Libere_1_e_2_del_venerdi

    • @studiocalder818
      @studiocalder818 6 лет назад

      @@giovannifasano5868 grande. Complimenti

  • @studiocalder818
    @studiocalder818 6 лет назад +4

    Targa Florio for cars was like Isle of Man for mbikes

    • @MDDeGrande1994
      @MDDeGrande1994 5 лет назад

      Except with Grande layout, Targa Florio was much longer.

  • @cramersclassics
    @cramersclassics Месяц назад

    Fantastic!

  • @gmt3654
    @gmt3654 4 года назад

    great documentation 👍

  • @alechall7082
    @alechall7082 Месяц назад +1

    "Last year *ha*, last year I hit a local"

  • @shaggy69001
    @shaggy69001 5 лет назад +4

    "like a man possessed" well done

  • @damondaniel4086
    @damondaniel4086 7 лет назад

    Did not think you could make "Bring A Trailer" much cooler but....This is great!!!

  • @lenniethedogsparty
    @lenniethedogsparty 12 лет назад +15

    This film makes me think what a safe, sanitised environment we have now, not just in motor racing but everywhere: a world for women. But not Sicilian women, apparently!

    • @LRiper
      @LRiper 4 года назад +1

      You are absolutely right!

    • @gustavoflorio5383
      @gustavoflorio5383 4 года назад +2

      The death of a innocent human bean is never a good thing. Just ask the loved ones of those drivers.

  • @jayswisher575
    @jayswisher575 4 года назад

    Good ole days man...

  • @Tom_Hadler
    @Tom_Hadler 4 года назад +4

    Great video. It's 1970 not 72, according to the in video title

  • @eugeniosantillangutierrez6519
    @eugeniosantillangutierrez6519 4 года назад

    🏁 The Man, his machine and God 🏁

  • @tangerinedream7211
    @tangerinedream7211 3 года назад +1

    They didn't know then the last full championship Targa would be next year.
    Oh for a time machine.

  • @HellishPunch
    @HellishPunch 5 лет назад +2

    Rip Nanni Galli

  • @axelknutt5065
    @axelknutt5065 Месяц назад

    It’s a pity that 50+ years later, that Marko is more well-known than Vic Elford.
    VE is up there with Jackie Ickx as Motorsport legends

  • @scuderiagrifoni8380
    @scuderiagrifoni8380 Месяц назад +2

    Neil Clifford sent me here...

  • @secretagentbloke
    @secretagentbloke Месяц назад

    RIP Quick Vic

  • @Ghibliopencup
    @Ghibliopencup 13 лет назад

    Fantatstic!!!!

  • @billhall830
    @billhall830 12 лет назад +1

    I would love to see speed channel start having a program that showed these great times in autosport. Not sure if Speed is capable anymore though.

  • @Ianzandvoort
    @Ianzandvoort 4 года назад +1

    I saw Toine Hezemans, 3 rd in 1972

    • @frankvdkruijs812
      @frankvdkruijs812 4 года назад +1

      Completely right! The man standing having the discussion. Very successfull in these cars.

  • @bobk3432
    @bobk3432 Год назад

    DK Engineering has one of these Tipo 33s for sale, Sep 10, 2023.

  • @bonskiiTV
    @bonskiiTV 13 лет назад

    Great video!

  • @paullacey2999
    @paullacey2999 2 года назад +1

    Much missed Vic.You could hustle a car!

  • @GinoFoto
    @GinoFoto 4 года назад

    impressionanti

  • @jimmyolsenschannel6263
    @jimmyolsenschannel6263 Месяц назад

    Great documentary. Who wrote and played the soundtrack?

  • @JimVanMorrissey
    @JimVanMorrissey 10 лет назад +7

    Anybody able to identify the delightful acoustic guitar & pan flute music? Shazam yields nothing.

    • @RunDub
      @RunDub 8 лет назад +2

      This is part of a film called The Speed Merchants, and the music is simply the soundtrack to the film. I know there was a record album of it, and I believe it is available on cd. Try Amazon!

    • @bluzeke
      @bluzeke 2 года назад

      Free soundtrack download at Autosports Marketing website.

  • @mattipuh
    @mattipuh 13 лет назад

    awesome, thanks! :)

  • @energyasylum997
    @energyasylum997 2 года назад +1

    @00:42 Sporting them butt-huggers! Rock on pappy.

  • @andysedgley
    @andysedgley 4 года назад

    This is the Circuito de la Sierra from the Gran Turismo video game!

  • @archibaldchimpin
    @archibaldchimpin 4 года назад +2

    Helmut was a good racer till he lost his eye,

  • @LuckyBaldwin777
    @LuckyBaldwin777 4 года назад

    Dust from the Sahara covered Sicily. That's pretty incredible.

    • @elsacane8495
      @elsacane8495 4 года назад +1

      Lucky Baldwin Actually sand particles . Lived in Malta south of Sicily and people covered their cars when the strong winds laden with some sand were swept northwards from Tunisia!

    • @LuckyBaldwin777
      @LuckyBaldwin777 4 года назад

      @@elsacane8495 sand... that almost seems impossible that it could travel that far. Those winds must be intense.

    • @clinttube
      @clinttube Месяц назад +2

      That's nothing. We get dust clouds from the Sahara in the Southeastern U.S. regularly. Every few years there will be an absolutely spectacular red sunset or few in the late summer.
      It is amazing it travels that far but every year you're talking millions of tons of dust around the Caribbean and Florida. Sometimes it can affect the local/regional weather but mainly limits hurricanes.

    • @LuckyBaldwin777
      @LuckyBaldwin777 Месяц назад +1

      @clinttube Wow, that is even more incredible. I've never heard of that before. I'm in S Arizona and when the air's really dusty here, we get 360 degree sunsets. The whole horizon lights up. Is pretty cool.

    • @clinttube
      @clinttube Месяц назад

      @@LuckyBaldwin777 yeah I was out there last year and got to see something somewhat similar to what you're talking about in phoenix. It was pretty sweet

  • @craigyirush3492
    @craigyirush3492 6 лет назад +2

    Why not give credit to those who made this documentary by saying where you got this clip from?

  • @Yodaandhislightsabre
    @Yodaandhislightsabre 4 года назад

    Didn't know Helmut Marko was a racer. Very nice

    • @terrystevens5261
      @terrystevens5261 Месяц назад

      He was also Vics team mate in sports cars. Marko lost an eye while driving for BRM in the French GP in 1972. a stone was thrown up by possibly Ronnie Petersons car and it went through Markos visor . as a result a lot of work was done to improve the safety of helmet visors.

  • @srntld
    @srntld 8 лет назад +1

    do you know what film this is from?
    thanks

  • @symustafa1996
    @symustafa1996 12 лет назад +1

    Don't forget the Carrera Panamericana.

  • @therealsharps
    @therealsharps 2 года назад

    Even the title says 1970.... Doh

  • @hughlebaron129
    @hughlebaron129 4 года назад

    who is the narrator please? great stuff

    • @hughlebaron129
      @hughlebaron129 4 года назад

      To Sam Lancaster - many thanks for your reply. Last year I went to Sicily and rode around the Targa roads on my motorcycle. Hard to imagine doing this at speed. What an era! Best, Hugh

    • @bluzeke
      @bluzeke 2 года назад

      Vic Elford

  • @JohnnyAckgpl2006
    @JohnnyAckgpl2006 Год назад

    Go vic go

  • @Rog5446
    @Rog5446 4 года назад

    Vic Elford let us into the secret of this race. You have to drive as fast as possible, for as long as possible.
    So completely different than any other race then?

  • @ev9466
    @ev9466 3 года назад

    The seventies... when you're playing your game of scopone scientifico at the cafe and race cars are zipping past the street.

  • @scottscottsdale7868
    @scottscottsdale7868 4 года назад

    The real difficulty might be the small children waiting around the next corner.

  • @ranocchio61
    @ranocchio61 14 лет назад

    The Speed Merchants. By Michael Keyser

  • @hayabusa27
    @hayabusa27 4 года назад +1

    You think we have it good these days, think again....

  • @axelknutt5065
    @axelknutt5065 Месяц назад

    Today I learnt “Carlo Kitty” not Chitty as I’ve always pronounced it

  • @MDDeGrande1994
    @MDDeGrande1994 5 лет назад

    I wonder how quick the F1 car (e. g. Ferrari F2004 or Williams BMW FW26) would lap the whole circuit.

    • @ZxRx7
      @ZxRx7 4 года назад

      That is exactly it. Nowadays it is all about what the car can do, talent and courage is barley made use of with these new cars making them boring as hell. During the documentary's era it was all about the drivers, their talent and their courage. They were true heroes.

  • @PhilippePEYREFICHE
    @PhilippePEYREFICHE Год назад

    J aurai. Aime la faire (((avec VIC..ELFORD..c eut ete. Le TOP..eh oui

  • @DoctorNumber46
    @DoctorNumber46 12 лет назад +6

    "and last year I hit a local" THAT'S not part of the sport!

    • @rockets4kids
      @rockets4kids 4 года назад

      That was a part of motor racing from the beginning. And it continued at least through Group B.