We drove our Outback Onyx XT with AT tires and a skid plate (but no lift) through mud like that in Vermillion Cliffs / Escalante last year and it handled it like a champ. We did air the tires down to 18. The mud was on House Rock Rd (after a some heavy rains) on our way to White Pocket. The (sandy but not muddy) road the White Pocket itself has all kinds of "4WD, not AWD warning signs" but it was a piece of cake in the OB, really. The car did need a serious car wash in Kanab afterwards though.
That's awesome!!! Next time, I definitely air down, lol!!! We'll be back adventuring there again in August 2024 - feel free to look for the events postings on my Facebook page!
@@SubaruAmbassadorRobert We're partial to the southwest in the Spring when it's not quite so hot out there and when we've gotten sick of the northern winters.
Awesome! It's such a fun car, and it's nice owning a car that's so capable (I can't justify a truck, as cool as that would be lol). My Ascent is also my daily. 😊
@@SubaruAmbassadorRobert That's very true. I want to get a Toyota 3rd row, but AWD isn't as capable as the Subaru. I rather have safety over reliability. I have a family too and feel as the Ascent will protect my family during winter.
Safety (both my brother and I have our own little "My Subaru Story"), more room than my outgoing Outback, pretty capable off-road and easy to mod. I'm a family of one (unless you count my fetch and leash loving cat, who sadly hates car rides, as much as he's more like a dog in every other way). But, I run a Subaru off roading group, and do overlanding adventures of my own, so, the added space comes in handy. It also means that I have everything I need to eat steak and eggs and bacon for breakfast and 3-4 item/course meals for dinner.
Sadly, there was no shallow side, as we found out on the way out. From end to end was mush. 😒 It was fun though, regardless. Might have been easier if the bigger traction boards could get under the wheels, or if someone (I am not saying me... but the guy looked really similar) had aired down before attempting it, lol! 🤣😔
Yep, sometimes the easiest thing is a shovel - even if it takes a bit of time. We met a BMW 4Matic on the beach that got stuck. Took an hour and a half of digging before a Jeep and I could tandem pull him out of the massive hole he'd dug himself into, and I could then tow him off the beach.
LOL, it's not a Wilderness badge. It's a custom badge that says "Ascent WilderBeast". And keep in mind, I've done more than make a badge for it. It's got a 2.2" lift, torque locker and hybrid mud-terrain/all-terrains.
@@lukejoseph1406 with just my 1" lift and the shorter version of the roof rack, I can make EPA ratings. With the extended rack and 2.4" lift, that dropped to 23.5 highway, and maybe 15-18 mixed. The lift is a big gas mileage killer.
LOL, I was very clear that this is a combination of (a) the updated reports not getting to the BLM Field Office, and (b) I shouldn't have tried stopping there, and (c) I shoulda aired down. Either way, it would be tough for a Subie. And, I think it's a GREAT reflection of the Subie's capabilities. Even after burying it to the undercarriage, a half board and a little shoveling, and the Subie powered its way out - something most other cars could never do.
The people assisting aren't helpful. The car could have gone out if they used their common sense... my gosh! They are just watching... there's more they could have done: putting rocks, branches, or more of those yellow pads...
No rocks to move in the area, and nothing worthwhile in the line of branches. The video is cut up a bit, but, we all took turns shoveling mud and running one of the cameras.
The rack is one of my favs. It's the Rola Vortex (or V-Tex in some listings), with an 18" extension. It's super well built. If you plan on putting heavy stuff on your roof, I highly recommend it. WITH the extension, it's at the maximum my Ascent can fit (and still be able to open the liftgate). So, for an OB, I'd probably skip the extension. For a Crosstrek or Forester, I'd *definitely* skip the extension. On my FB profile, there's pics of it without the extension - still quite a big rack (the earlier pic is with the extension). I recommend doing what the Amazon reviewers say, and touch up the weld areas with some Krylon Fusion, and use some petroleum jelly in the joints under the rubber seals. I didn't - and while the rack is still solid, after 4 years of abuse, you can start to see some paint chipping in a few (very few) places. Here's the rack: amzn.to/3XpivQG Here's the extension: amzn.to/46q3Ad5 Eventually, I will be custom building an aluminum rack, but only because I want a little more width for my overlanding setup. The holders are by Orbis Overland. Look up their rack wing. Fits most Subies that have racks. Very good quality.
It normally rides on a bigger lift than that (6.5cm), but we had a part failure during this trip, before we got there, that forced us to lower it, below OEM height, sadly. Either way, the mud was the biggest problem. We dragged hundreds of pounds of clay mud with the underside of the car. It took weeks to get it all out from underneath.
Спасибо за ответ) Теперь всё понятно. Я выбираю между Субару Акцент и Джип гранд чероки WK 2 3,6л. Субару более драйверский, джип настоящий внедорожник) В России мы до сих пор очень ценим Трибека, многие в очень хорошем состоянии и модификации. Есть даже свои мужские Трибека клубы)
@@WOLDEMARS8 if you like the Tribeca, you will probably LOVE the Ascent. It's comfier, much more powerful, and even better off road (check out some of my other vids). I off road the Ascent all over the country, and have a very comfortable time because with all the extra room, I bring a fridge/freezer, stoves, big tent, queen size bed, and all the comforts of home. I eat steak and eggs and drink hot coffee for breakfast in the desert - I don't even do that at home. lol!!! 😜 If you plan on rock crawling, definitely get the Jeep. The Ascent has a long wheelbase and big front nose, so, it is horrible at rock crawling.
@@SubaruAmbassadorRobert I'll have to get a tow hitch installed to tow the sambar with my new Outback! How much can a 3.6R Touring edition tow and do you suggest it?
Subarus are very capable. While they're not rock crawlers (all the wrong angles for that), they handle mud, dirt, rocky terrain and sand very easily. Heck, if I had aired down, I probably wouldn't have gotten stuck.
@@MusicLuv80 any time! Feel free to reach out (my FB page is the best way) with any questions, and be sure to check out some of my other vids to see a tiny bit of the off-roading I do in my Ascent.
@@SubaruAmbassadorRobert Thanks! We have it scheduled to be installed on our Ascent next week, but after the terrain we just tackled without it last weekend I was questioning whether we actually need it. Toughest thing we did was 17 degree angle in large loose rock covered in moguls and the Ascent did perfectly fine, just turned traction control off. Not sure if the extra rubbing of tires on pavement (i.e. increased tire wear) was worth it if it truly won't be a benefit except in really unusual situations.
Surprisingly well. FAR better than the KO2's I got rid of. They're obviously not winter tires and won't compete with them, but they're up there for the best All Terrain I've used on ice and hard packed snow.
This one does too, either direction. The way we were heading, it would take us to Big Water, where there's what we would call a "market" (here, we mostly use the term to refer to a small store that sells bread, dairy products, and some other household staples, though sometimes we use it to refer to an actual market with many sellers). The direction we came had a similar market/store in Escalante (which is where we stopped for some more supplies before attempting this road).
No, it wouldn't sadly, which is why the 2004 Forester and 2022 Forester Wilderness didn't try it. We learned that only the Outback Wilderness is around as capable, but with considerably less tow capacity, and tremendously less recovery capacity. The Ascent is the recovery vehicle for these situations because it's the most capable. In a different adventure, it has to tow a Forester out of Silver Lake Sand Dunes - the place cars and trucks get stuck (the Fox snapped an axle). The only *car* capable of towing the Forester through the dunes and sugar sands was the Ascent... and it barely noticed.
To quote Matt's offroad channel "If traction boards are what gets you out then you were never actually stuck".
LOL, love it!
We drove our Outback Onyx XT with AT tires and a skid plate (but no lift) through mud like that in Vermillion Cliffs / Escalante last year and it handled it like a champ. We did air the tires down to 18. The mud was on House Rock Rd (after a some heavy rains) on our way to White Pocket. The (sandy but not muddy) road the White Pocket itself has all kinds of "4WD, not AWD warning signs" but it was a piece of cake in the OB, really. The car did need a serious car wash in Kanab afterwards though.
That's awesome!!! Next time, I definitely air down, lol!!! We'll be back adventuring there again in August 2024 - feel free to look for the events postings on my Facebook page!
@@SubaruAmbassadorRobert We're partial to the southwest in the Spring when it's not quite so hot out there and when we've gotten sick of the northern winters.
Our Subaru Ascent is my wife driving vehicle. If I dare to do this kind off road, 100% sure she will file for divorce. Thanks for this great idea!
LOL!!! 🤣
Divorce her then
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Grow some balls man
Give thank thing a lift kit to their capable
Aside from getting stuck, nice rig. I'm planning to trade my 21 ridgeline to a 21 subaru ascent. More room for family.
Awesome! It's such a fun car, and it's nice owning a car that's so capable (I can't justify a truck, as cool as that would be lol). My Ascent is also my daily. 😊
@@SubaruAmbassadorRobert That's very true. I want to get a Toyota 3rd row, but AWD isn't as capable as the Subaru. I rather have safety over reliability. I have a family too and feel as the Ascent will protect my family during winter.
SUBARU FTW!
Ascent owners, what's the standout feature that made you choose this family SUV?
Safety (both my brother and I have our own little "My Subaru Story"), more room than my outgoing Outback, pretty capable off-road and easy to mod.
I'm a family of one (unless you count my fetch and leash loving cat, who sadly hates car rides, as much as he's more like a dog in every other way). But, I run a Subaru off roading group, and do overlanding adventures of my own, so, the added space comes in handy. It also means that I have everything I need to eat steak and eggs and bacon for breakfast and 3-4 item/course meals for dinner.
always take low, shallow side....the side nnext to a hill or rise will always be the slushpit. goos job climbing out.
Sadly, there was no shallow side, as we found out on the way out. From end to end was mush. 😒 It was fun though, regardless. Might have been easier if the bigger traction boards could get under the wheels, or if someone (I am not saying me... but the guy looked really similar) had aired down before attempting it, lol! 🤣😔
My car stuck on uphill snow once. I was able to escape after 2 hours digging.
Yep, sometimes the easiest thing is a shovel - even if it takes a bit of time. We met a BMW 4Matic on the beach that got stuck. Took an hour and a half of digging before a Jeep and I could tandem pull him out of the massive hole he'd dug himself into, and I could then tow him off the beach.
Can’t just slap a Wilderness badge on it and voila… Ascent Wilderness. The badge isn’t what makes it a Wilderness.
Nice recovery!
LOL, it's not a Wilderness badge. It's a custom badge that says "Ascent WilderBeast". And keep in mind, I've done more than make a badge for it. It's got a 2.2" lift, torque locker and hybrid mud-terrain/all-terrains.
@@SubaruAmbassadorRobertLOL.
Cool. Consider me educated.
What kind of mpg do you see on the highway and mixed?
@@lukejoseph1406 with just my 1" lift and the shorter version of the roof rack, I can make EPA ratings. With the extended rack and 2.4" lift, that dropped to 23.5 highway, and maybe 15-18 mixed. The lift is a big gas mileage killer.
That TR690 Life.
This feels like user error and not so much a reflection of the vehicle’s capabilities tbh
LOL, I was very clear that this is a combination of (a) the updated reports not getting to the BLM Field Office, and (b) I shouldn't have tried stopping there, and (c) I shoulda aired down.
Either way, it would be tough for a Subie.
And, I think it's a GREAT reflection of the Subie's capabilities. Even after burying it to the undercarriage, a half board and a little shoveling, and the Subie powered its way out - something most other cars could never do.
Hi robert. What brand is that rotopax holder in ur ascent?
Hiya! Orbis Overlanding. I really like them. They're really solidly built (alas, you pay the price for that, but, I think it was worth it).
Ascent Wilderness?? Did he just buy some badges or what?
Custom made badge... Ascent WilderBeast.
The people assisting aren't helpful. The car could have gone out if they used their common sense... my gosh! They are just watching... there's more they could have done: putting rocks, branches, or more of those yellow pads...
No rocks to move in the area, and nothing worthwhile in the line of branches. The video is cut up a bit, but, we all took turns shoveling mud and running one of the cameras.
Thank you! I stopped watching I couldn't take the pain of "you're not going to make it, you're not this you're not that . UGH
What is the roofrack and gas holding system you are running?
The rack is one of my favs. It's the Rola Vortex (or V-Tex in some listings), with an 18" extension. It's super well built. If you plan on putting heavy stuff on your roof, I highly recommend it.
WITH the extension, it's at the maximum my Ascent can fit (and still be able to open the liftgate). So, for an OB, I'd probably skip the extension. For a Crosstrek or Forester, I'd *definitely* skip the extension. On my FB profile, there's pics of it without the extension - still quite a big rack (the earlier pic is with the extension).
I recommend doing what the Amazon reviewers say, and touch up the weld areas with some Krylon Fusion, and use some petroleum jelly in the joints under the rubber seals. I didn't - and while the rack is still solid, after 4 years of abuse, you can start to see some paint chipping in a few (very few) places.
Here's the rack:
amzn.to/3XpivQG
Here's the extension:
amzn.to/46q3Ad5
Eventually, I will be custom building an aluminum rack, but only because I want a little more width for my overlanding setup.
The holders are by Orbis Overland. Look up their rack wing. Fits most Subies that have racks. Very good quality.
Субару едет только при условии - газ в пол)
Этой машине нужен лифт подвески +2.5 см.
It normally rides on a bigger lift than that (6.5cm), but we had a part failure during this trip, before we got there, that forced us to lower it, below OEM height, sadly.
Either way, the mud was the biggest problem. We dragged hundreds of pounds of clay mud with the underside of the car. It took weeks to get it all out from underneath.
Спасибо за ответ)
Теперь всё понятно.
Я выбираю между Субару Акцент и Джип гранд чероки WK 2 3,6л. Субару более драйверский, джип настоящий внедорожник)
В России мы до сих пор очень ценим Трибека, многие в очень хорошем состоянии и модификации. Есть даже свои мужские Трибека клубы)
@@WOLDEMARS8 if you like the Tribeca, you will probably LOVE the Ascent. It's comfier, much more powerful, and even better off road (check out some of my other vids). I off road the Ascent all over the country, and have a very comfortable time because with all the extra room, I bring a fridge/freezer, stoves, big tent, queen size bed, and all the comforts of home. I eat steak and eggs and drink hot coffee for breakfast in the desert - I don't even do that at home. lol!!! 😜
If you plan on rock crawling, definitely get the Jeep. The Ascent has a long wheelbase and big front nose, so, it is horrible at rock crawling.
Приятных путешествий))
I bet the Sambar would've floated over all that mud 😂. Someday I'll come on one of these trips with y'all
OMG, we were saying the same thing, lol! 🤣
Next year's trip should be more epic, so, be ready!
@@SubaruAmbassadorRobert I'll have to get a tow hitch installed to tow the sambar with my new Outback! How much can a 3.6R Touring edition tow and do you suggest it?
@@1QuartLow 3000 pounds. That'd be cool!
Isn't this all wheel drive not 4 wheel? How does it go these places?
Subarus are very capable. While they're not rock crawlers (all the wrong angles for that), they handle mud, dirt, rocky terrain and sand very easily. Heck, if I had aired down, I probably wouldn't have gotten stuck.
@@SubaruAmbassadorRobert Wow! We will definitely go and test drive one soon. Thanks for your help ~
@@MusicLuv80 any time! Feel free to reach out (my FB page is the best way) with any questions, and be sure to check out some of my other vids to see a tiny bit of the off-roading I do in my Ascent.
@@SubaruAmbassadorRobert got it. Thanks ~
Is that with your rear locker installed?
It sure is! I'm loving the locker!
@@SubaruAmbassadorRobert Thanks! We have it scheduled to be installed on our Ascent next week, but after the terrain we just tackled without it last weekend I was questioning whether we actually need it. Toughest thing we did was 17 degree angle in large loose rock covered in moguls and the Ascent did perfectly fine, just turned traction control off. Not sure if the extra rubbing of tires on pavement (i.e. increased tire wear) was worth it if it truly won't be a benefit except in really unusual situations.
How well do these do on black ice/ hard snow?
Surprisingly well. FAR better than the KO2's I got rid of. They're obviously not winter tires and won't compete with them, but they're up there for the best All Terrain I've used on ice and hard packed snow.
What exhaust do you have on your Ascent or do you have a form of BOV?
Hi! Stock exhaust, and the Ascent has a bypass valve and variable wastegate.
Смешные ребята, у нас в Карели, такая дорога часто ведет к магазину с хлебом )
This one does too, either direction. The way we were heading, it would take us to Big Water, where there's what we would call a "market" (here, we mostly use the term to refer to a small store that sells bread, dairy products, and some other household staples, though sometimes we use it to refer to an actual market with many sellers). The direction we came had a similar market/store in Escalante (which is where we stopped for some more supplies before attempting this road).
Curious was that blue Ascent lifted or stock?
Blue OB Wilderness: slight lift
Green OB Wilderness: no lift
Grey Ascent: lift
2004 Foz: lift
White Foz Wilderness: lift
Subaru off-road...I've pulled out 2 so far, great in snow though
lol, it made it out on its own, and it wouldn't have gotten stuck had I aired down first.
Who was stupid to do this to ascent 🤷🏼♂️
Having fun and never going in over my head is never stupid.
I bet a forester with the right tires would of gone right through it
No, it wouldn't sadly, which is why the 2004 Forester and 2022 Forester Wilderness didn't try it. We learned that only the Outback Wilderness is around as capable, but with considerably less tow capacity, and tremendously less recovery capacity.
The Ascent is the recovery vehicle for these situations because it's the most capable.
In a different adventure, it has to tow a Forester out of Silver Lake Sand Dunes - the place cars and trucks get stuck (the Fox snapped an axle). The only *car* capable of towing the Forester through the dunes and sugar sands was the Ascent... and it barely noticed.
@@SubaruAmbassadorRobert We can confirm. The Ascent's only real off road weakness are its angles. Otherwise, it's an utter beast on the trails.