Worth noting that GW just eliminated the daemons-only faction in Age of Sigmar. They still work with their respective mono-god factions, but will likely require some AoS-only "mortal" units as well to fill out your ranks. Still a big plus!
@@shuwan4games Only half of your pinks will split. Plus you'll take a lot of shots on the blues and brimstones, so they can die and be split back in multiple times.
@@BulletBill64 only half if you roll exactly average. But if you roll above average, or use healing shenanigans to res pinks (or play AOS where they split without having to roll)...you need 2 boxes
There is also a few Broken Realms: Atra'zan's Blazing Cavalcade leftover at some places. A good start for tzeentch units. 1 x Fateskimmer, Herald of Tzeentch on Burning Chariot / burning cart of Tzeentch + Herald of Tzeentch on foot 10 x Blue Horrors 10 x Pink Horrors 10 x Brimstone Horrors
People who are also planning to use these figs for other non-GW games might find the combat patrol more useful than average. They're somewhat more generic demonic designs than the demons of other chaos powers. The bloodletters in particular are about as generic a "hellish warrior" stereotype possible without them wielding actual pitchforks, and the flesh hounds are pretty good generic demon-dog things. Could mix 'em in with chaos hounds and dire wolves if you wanted a more chaotic hunting pack too. On the flip side, if you don't give a fig about using GW models in 40K or fantasy, the Frostgrave demons plastic kit make much cheaper and far more varied bloodletter models than the actual figs do. $35 for 20 modular figs makes even the combat patrol discount look pretty sad, and you can find Frostgrave discounted too.
I love chaos daemons so much it just sucks for me that they only have so little models, makes me feel like I can’t mix up builds at all (within a single daemon type)
Working out a Disciples of Be'lakor list and I think I've got a cool color scheme. Gonna try and paint all the daemons to look like shadows to go with Be'lakor's whole theme.
On a related note, if you're looking for more variety in your demonic nurgle forces the Gellerpox Infected set gets you a reasonable pile of stuff for $65. The 16 little critters could be mixed together to make multiple bases of nurgling proxies or selectively added to larger models (the flies are particularly good for that) to personalize them, the three mid-sized guys double as plague bearers just as easily as they do poxwalkers, and the big guys could be re-based on 50mm and be used as chaos spawn if you've got some mortals along, or are allying with them. If you watch for them you're starting to see a few people listing parts from the kit, although the frame layout and rules for them as themselves in KT will probably limit that a fair bit.
Step 1: WAIT until the points update. Daemons are pretty balanced so there really is little need for further tweaks beyond this points update for flamers
@@carlossanblas5807 They're actually fine. Everything Nurgle is just overshadowed by Flamers and they don't mix well with the other factions. When Flamers get nerfed, you'll start to see Plague Drones getting spammed.
I’ve been looking at daemons for 2 days now and I’ve found so many combos and strategies, it is just endless daemons have the most variety of any army by far
I just find it weird that looking through the Demons in the codex, Tzeench is the only group that doesn't have his main line as a choice, like Khorne has his bloodletters, Nurgle has his Plaguebearers and Slannesh has her Demonettes, but no normal Tzangors But looking at it my 1,000 point army will be 1- Karanak 20- Bloodletters 10- Hell Hounds 10- Plaugebearers 3- Nurglings 10- Blue Horrors Allied Forces- 20 Tzangors (yeah I'm trying to go for a rush and surround army since the orcs beat me badly last time I want to make sure I can beat them this time)
I've only been able to get 1 game in with the new codex but it was very fun! They play very differently than other armies, given that there is little to no shooting and their unmodifiable daemon save gives them excellent protection from incoming shooting attacks. They don't seem overpowered to me, or maybe that's because I play strictly Slaanesh, which isn't getting a whole lot of attention from meta gamers. Daemons seem pretty balanced IMO, and finally playing a non-space marine army makes the game more interesting. I support my daemons with a Chaos Knight, which provide the extra toughness and umph necessary to close with the enemy, and diversity of tactical options. Based on what I'm seeing, I agree with you AT that some of the more meta-friendly daemons will likely get a slight nerf. In that case Slaanesh and Chaos Knights will likely be unaffected, or at least not so badly. Those chariots are great! Very cheap and strong.
I was thinking about a deamon army of Khorne. But the more i look into it the more I think, that the best choice is to mix them, but I don't realy want to.
this is another brilliant video, i have one thing to say TZEENTCH potential players, its very difficult to get hold of some of our key models right now, they are temp out of print (5.11.22 UK) brilliant army though, ive played two games and theyre so fun
Could you do recommendations for somebody who wants to get some models ready for the world eaters release. Got a bloodthirster, demon prince, box of bloodletters and box of chaos marines
Hello I am new and have a question if anybody could answer. I want to build a daemon army, I have purchased some models but upon arrival and inspection I realised that they may not work together. I have brought 1x great unclean one 1x daemon prince 1x pox bringer 1x infernal enrapturess 1x blood master 1x bloodletter unit And the bit that throws me off I was gifted a death guard combat patrol, can I use this in the same list? If so, what disadvantages or advantages does it pose for me. Thanks
How to play Chaos Daemons: Get Abbadon or Be'Lakor and some flamers, then throw in a few other things for flavor. Probably Nurgle stuff since it's durable.
Ok so im new to warhammer and im intersted in daemons but in my country i have only 2 options and those are tzeentch and slaanesh daemons but thats not an issue since they are the 2 that interest me the most but i can't choose which faction i want so chould anyone help me decide i mean i like the look of tzeentch daemons more and if i get slaanesh daemons theres a chance that my parents wont be happy with them since... Yknow but i also like slaanesh daemons lore a little more. Edit theres also nurgle daemons on the table
The combat patrol isn't a general purpose box at all. It's a Khorne box and nothing else. That's all well and good if you want to play Khorne. Otherwise, it's not that great. The Slaanesh box has the same problem as a lot of these combat patrol and start collecting boxes. Instead of concentrating on giving a low cost HQ suitable for small games and a selection of core units, a big chunk of the contents are tied up in one, big centerpiece model. More Daemonettes and one of the Slaanesh specific HQ choices like The Masque would be a hell of a lot more useful for a starting player.
As a Daemons player since 5th edition, my advice to others is don't bother playing Daemons. GW repeatedly forgets that your faction exists, and they intentionally underpower it because they don't want players playing a faction that can be used in both 40K and AoS. They want players to buy brand new armies for both games. You will rarely get new miniatures, and your codices will always be late and underwhelming. If you look closely at the rules in the Daemon codex for each edition you will realize that a lot of them don't make sense. This is because very little thought is given to Daemons as a playable faction. If you plan to just play with friends and want a cool looking army, then go for it. Daemons are the coolest looking army. Just don't expect to get rules that are in line with any of the other factions in the game. Really, the best advice for Deamons players is to stop playing Warhammer. Pick up D&D or some other TTRPG. You can use all of your cool Daemon miniatures and you can play a game with your friends that is actually fun and not balanced based on monetization.
Just whatever you do AVOID TZEENTCH DAEMONS, they suck MASSIVELY, they're the only daemons faction that got NO changes to their rules this edition, Tzeentch is arguably the weakest due to a complete lack of rules
Im convinced auspex is a servitor who never sleeps at this point, the sheer wealth of quality content is beyond human
Mans a daemon straight outta the warp. His upload speeds become gradually faster the more we praise his work.
He's quick but often makes mistakes and typo's. His videos are great but it does show how much he rushes them.
@@TheKlawwGang888 My entire life is a mistake filled with typos so i'll give the man a pass.
Bro hes just an actual servitor with an intact voice box and semi labotomized brain in order to give quality videos here🤣🤣
Second this. Dude is just built different
Daemons work in kill team, warcry, 40k, age of sigmar and 30k making them one of the best options in gw for collecting an army
Worth noting that GW just eliminated the daemons-only faction in Age of Sigmar. They still work with their respective mono-god factions, but will likely require some AoS-only "mortal" units as well to fill out your ranks.
Still a big plus!
I really like the look and lore of the Tzeentch daemons. The fact that they split apart IN GAME seems really cool and on point with him.
Yes, the only problem is the fact that in order to run a single squad of horrors you need to purchase 3 boxes...
@@thok54 The blues and brimstones come in a single box.
@@BulletBill64 but each pink splits into 2 blues so you still need 2 boxes of blues for one pink
@@shuwan4games Only half of your pinks will split. Plus you'll take a lot of shots on the blues and brimstones, so they can die and be split back in multiple times.
@@BulletBill64 only half if you roll exactly average. But if you roll above average, or use healing shenanigans to res pinks (or play AOS where they split without having to roll)...you need 2 boxes
GW owes Auspex millions in commissions for his work getting people to start an army for EVERY FACTION
I just bought myself the Slaanesh box as well as a Bloodthrister after getting Belakor and the Combat Patrol. Really excited to paint my army.
There is also a few Broken Realms: Atra'zan's Blazing Cavalcade leftover at some places. A good start for tzeentch units.
1 x Fateskimmer,
Herald of Tzeentch on Burning Chariot / burning cart of Tzeentch + Herald of Tzeentch on foot
10 x Blue Horrors
10 x Pink Horrors
10 x Brimstone Horrors
People who are also planning to use these figs for other non-GW games might find the combat patrol more useful than average. They're somewhat more generic demonic designs than the demons of other chaos powers. The bloodletters in particular are about as generic a "hellish warrior" stereotype possible without them wielding actual pitchforks, and the flesh hounds are pretty good generic demon-dog things. Could mix 'em in with chaos hounds and dire wolves if you wanted a more chaotic hunting pack too.
On the flip side, if you don't give a fig about using GW models in 40K or fantasy, the Frostgrave demons plastic kit make much cheaper and far more varied bloodletter models than the actual figs do. $35 for 20 modular figs makes even the combat patrol discount look pretty sad, and you can find Frostgrave discounted too.
The biggest appeal I see in Chaos Daemons is "rule of cool"
I've always been a rule of cool player and always will be
I love chaos daemons so much it just sucks for me that they only have so little models, makes me feel like I can’t mix up builds at all (within a single daemon type)
Disciples of Be'Lakor.
Working out a Disciples of Be'lakor list and I think I've got a cool color scheme. Gonna try and paint all the daemons to look like shadows to go with Be'lakor's whole theme.
Love this idea as well
It’s nurgling time!
Nurgle is one of the chaos gods of all time.
@@BurnByMoonlight one of the best )
On a related note, if you're looking for more variety in your demonic nurgle forces the Gellerpox Infected set gets you a reasonable pile of stuff for $65. The 16 little critters could be mixed together to make multiple bases of nurgling proxies or selectively added to larger models (the flies are particularly good for that) to personalize them, the three mid-sized guys double as plague bearers just as easily as they do poxwalkers, and the big guys could be re-based on 50mm and be used as chaos spawn if you've got some mortals along, or are allying with them. If you watch for them you're starting to see a few people listing parts from the kit, although the frame layout and rules for them as themselves in KT will probably limit that a fair bit.
Step 1: WAIT until the points update. Daemons are pretty balanced so there really is little need for further tweaks beyond this points update for flamers
Nurgle needs a buff
@@carlossanblas5807 They're actually fine. Everything Nurgle is just overshadowed by Flamers and they don't mix well with the other factions.
When Flamers get nerfed, you'll start to see Plague Drones getting spammed.
I’ve been looking at daemons for 2 days now and I’ve found so many combos and strategies, it is just endless daemons have the most variety of any army by far
I just find it weird that looking through the Demons in the codex, Tzeench is the only group that doesn't have his main line as a choice, like Khorne has his bloodletters, Nurgle has his Plaguebearers and Slannesh has her Demonettes, but no normal Tzangors
But looking at it my 1,000 point army will be
1- Karanak
20- Bloodletters
10- Hell Hounds
10- Plaugebearers
3- Nurglings
10- Blue Horrors
Allied Forces- 20 Tzangors
(yeah I'm trying to go for a rush and surround army since the orcs beat me badly last time I want to make sure I can beat them this time)
Nurgle daemons can use a buff
Just got my first set the other day and I'm thinking of slanesh tzeech army they're my favourites (sorry about spelling)
I've only been able to get 1 game in with the new codex but it was very fun! They play very differently than other armies, given that there is little to no shooting and their unmodifiable daemon save gives them excellent protection from incoming shooting attacks. They don't seem overpowered to me, or maybe that's because I play strictly Slaanesh, which isn't getting a whole lot of attention from meta gamers. Daemons seem pretty balanced IMO, and finally playing a non-space marine army makes the game more interesting. I support my daemons with a Chaos Knight, which provide the extra toughness and umph necessary to close with the enemy, and diversity of tactical options. Based on what I'm seeing, I agree with you AT that some of the more meta-friendly daemons will likely get a slight nerf. In that case Slaanesh and Chaos Knights will likely be unaffected, or at least not so badly. Those chariots are great! Very cheap and strong.
Could you do a video like this for ultramarines?
Mkay so I need 1 Order of Belakor, 1 order Deamonettes, 2 orders of Flamers. Order up!
I was thinking about a deamon army of Khorne. But the more i look into it the more I think, that the best choice is to mix them, but I don't realy want to.
Im looking forward to building a chaos daemons deck with belakor :D
Auspices tactics has to have some sort of psychic powers. I just googled this this morning and couldn’t find a good answer.
I’m thinking of proxying a tzeentch demon army from mantic games
this is another brilliant video, i have one thing to say
TZEENTCH potential players, its very difficult to get hold of some of our key models right now, they are temp out of print (5.11.22 UK)
brilliant army though, ive played two games and theyre so fun
same for nurgle as well. plague drones have been out for awhile and some HQ options as well
In 9th edition, can you have mutliple heralds of tzeentch on burning chariots or only one at a time in game?
Any other game systems you can use chaos daemons in besides GWs? I know Kings of War you can use them but any other game systems is a plus as well.
Could you do recommendations for somebody who wants to get some models ready for the world eaters release. Got a bloodthirster, demon prince, box of bloodletters and box of chaos marines
Until we see what is available for Codex: Worls Eaters, this won't be possible
Get Kharn and Rhinos. Stay away from almost everything else.
@@warsmithgalvinc4151 why I said recommendations I know we can’t know for sure
How to start Daemons:
1. Buy 18 tzeentch flamers
2. Win a lot for 2 months
3. Cry when GW nerfs them into oblivion
18 airbrushed tzench flamer should be the base
Hello I am new and have a question if anybody could answer. I want to build a daemon army, I have purchased some models but upon arrival and inspection I realised that they may not work together.
I have brought
1x great unclean one
1x daemon prince
1x pox bringer
1x infernal enrapturess
1x blood master
1x bloodletter unit
And the bit that throws me off
I was gifted a death guard combat patrol, can I use this in the same list? If so, what disadvantages or advantages does it pose for me.
Thanks
How to play Chaos Daemons: Get Abbadon or Be'Lakor and some flamers, then throw in a few other things for flavor. Probably Nurgle stuff since it's durable.
Flamers are dead now.
I just wish Deamons would accomodate a Duotone type list without having to go through fucking Belakor for it.
Ok so im new to warhammer and im intersted in daemons but in my country i have only 2 options and those are tzeentch and slaanesh daemons but thats not an issue since they are the 2 that interest me the most but i can't choose which faction i want so chould anyone help me decide i mean i like the look of tzeentch daemons more and if i get slaanesh daemons theres a chance that my parents wont be happy with them since... Yknow but i also like slaanesh daemons lore a little more. Edit theres also nurgle daemons on the table
Sir would you please stop adding to my pile of shame. IT IS YOUR FAULT!
The combat patrol isn't a general purpose box at all. It's a Khorne box and nothing else. That's all well and good if you want to play Khorne. Otherwise, it's not that great. The Slaanesh box has the same problem as a lot of these combat patrol and start collecting boxes. Instead of concentrating on giving a low cost HQ suitable for small games and a selection of core units, a big chunk of the contents are tied up in one, big centerpiece model. More Daemonettes and one of the Slaanesh specific HQ choices like The Masque would be a hell of a lot more useful for a starting player.
As a Daemons player since 5th edition, my advice to others is don't bother playing Daemons. GW repeatedly forgets that your faction exists, and they intentionally underpower it because they don't want players playing a faction that can be used in both 40K and AoS. They want players to buy brand new armies for both games.
You will rarely get new miniatures, and your codices will always be late and underwhelming. If you look closely at the rules in the Daemon codex for each edition you will realize that a lot of them don't make sense. This is because very little thought is given to Daemons as a playable faction.
If you plan to just play with friends and want a cool looking army, then go for it. Daemons are the coolest looking army. Just don't expect to get rules that are in line with any of the other factions in the game.
Really, the best advice for Deamons players is to stop playing Warhammer. Pick up D&D or some other TTRPG. You can use all of your cool Daemon miniatures and you can play a game with your friends that is actually fun and not balanced based on monetization.
Just whatever you do
AVOID TZEENTCH DAEMONS, they suck MASSIVELY, they're the only daemons faction that got NO changes to their rules this edition, Tzeentch is arguably the weakest due to a complete lack of rules
.... but flamers tho .....
You seem to be anti-Tzeentch according to your previous comments. May I inquire why?
@@sandwichknight7612 SHUN THE NON-BELIEVER
Bro they got a 3+ daemon save to ranged shooting
@@fowlersrs they die easily once touched