The writer of Haruhi's birthday is on Dec. 19, a day after the events of Disappearance on the 18th which I struggle to consider a coincidence. What may be a coincidence though is that the computer game they play is called 'Day of Sagittarius' while the author is a Sagittarius too.
16:57 About Rosenkrantz and Guildenstern are Dead, the plot of the novel is about the two titular characters becoming somewhat meta-aware. They have their own thoughts and agency that is completely different to how they behave in Hamlet, but when the actual plot of Hamlet comes around they can't help but play their role. This causes them to get really existential in their conversations when they aren't playing out their Hamlet roles. I always took it's inclusion as the play Koizumi was doing when he wasn't helping the SOS Brigade make the movie to be a character hint. Maybe Koizumi is a very different person when he isn't around the SOS Brigade. Also Haruhi Hunting just being pachinko still hurts.
Thanks for the deep dive. You brought to my attention a few references that I had missed. Dammit! I should have spotted the 'Linda, Linda, Linda' ref. Great little film. On the subject of Nagato's books, two more titles worth mentioning are 'I Want To Kick You in the Back' by Risa Wataya and 'Hard-Boiled Wonderland and the End of the World' by Haruki Murakami. Yuki is seen reading 'I Want To Kick You in the Back' in the latter part of the episode 'Someday in the Rain,' the last episode in the chronological order. Essentially it's about a girl who bullies a boy she likes, as she finds it difficult to overcome her sense of loneliness and express her affection for him, whilst the boy is obsessed with a fashion model. Considering Yuki's growing affection for Kyon, her sense of loneliness and Kyon's obsession with Mikuru, it's possible that the book's theme resonated with Yuki. Although she doesn't kick Kyon in the back, she certainly turns his world upside down with the coming alteration to the world, effectively alienating Mikuru (excuse the pun) in the process. It's worth remembering that this episode immediately precedes the Disappearance film. How telling then that Yuki leaves the book behind in the club room, directly in front of the sleeping Kyon. Considering how tidy Yuki usually is, did she deliberately leave the book for Kyon to read? If he had then he might have gained a little insight into Yuki's frame of mind. In 'Disappearance' the human Nagato is seen reading 'Hard-Boiled Wonderland and the End of the World.' The book explores the questions of identity, alternative worlds and human consciousness. If you read the book then its relevance to the 'Disappearance' story is uncanny. Once again, the pre-human Nagato had left this book (for her human variation to read) as a clue for Kyon, in my opinion.
The most probably the best video that I've seen since becoming a haruhi fan and the amount of happiness I felt on seeing things I already knew and finding out about new things, some of which completely unexpected (Pepa pig) Overall a fun ride just like haruhi Suzumiya the anime. Hope you make more such videos on haruhi. 😭(I'm crying)
i think the rosencrantz and guildenstern are dead reference is actually really good foreshadowing for itsuki as a character and his beliefs- especially if you look at the character he’s playing (guildernstern). honestly if you even just go look up the themes of the play or analyses of it, it’s very easy to tie back to tmohs and itsuki as a character. and possibly even the agency. considering it was also specifically stated that version of hamlet is the one they were doing in the novels- and itsuki even winks at kyon at the end of it all. there’s lots of little things like that in haruhi that fo deeper the more you look into it
8:19 i just checked, and according to the website they are hosting a "thanksgiving" from march 9-march 24 2024 to celebrate the 20 year anniversary of both haruhi suzumiya & lucky star
A funny fact from me. The parody of Haruhi Suzumiya was filmed on the eve of the Tanibata Anime Festival in 2007 in Russia in the small town Voronezh 0_0. Its name,, Танибата-2007:Сузумия и Коробка-сан" and you can watch ,,Suzumiya's fan clips at the Voronezh Anime Festival 2007 (with subtitles)"
I'm coming back to this video after finally completing the light novels to see if I now fully understand everything. I just wish that I didn't perfectly remember the spoilers for over a year...
@@kazghost Yeah it seems like the more you try to forget something the more it sticks in your mind. Maybe I should have used that strategy in school lol. And don't worry about the spoilers, it didn't ruin the books for me or anything.
Jhon Smith isnt just the most common name in English, it is also used for when you dont want to give someone your name to remain anonymous. Kyon introduces himself as Jhon Smith because of this, since giving his real name would clue her in that Kyon is a time traveler.
Regarding the abyss comment, "endless eight is a masterpiece" : I 100% agree! And as anyone (I mean anyone normal), I absolutely HATED it, with all my guts, the first time I watched it. I sweared, I chivered, I shouted (virtually) at the cast for "butchering that great saga". I couldn't resist the temptation to fast forward some of the moments. And yet, you still can't help but watch most of it. Once it's over, you feel a great relief, but not the kind of forgiving relief, just "thanks god, you wasted so much of my time, let's forget about all this and let's keep going with what remains of this still great story". Years later, I rewatched the entire Haruhi anime & movie serie. But I didn't skip a SECOND of the arc. It's like a (very) sour candy. Or actually, more like a sour party cake made by the greatest chef of all time. Once you are used to the taste, you actually can enjoy it. And god it's so good! You don't even understand anymore what it was like, why you couldn't appreciate it, what was wrong with you and your too young soul and senses to be able to appreciate such a masterpiece.
AFAIR, there's also a Yuki Nagato-like character with very similar name and appearance in Sailor Moon manga from beginning of 1990s. She was called Yukita Nagatora or something like that, a very smart girl who joined somebody's class. Seen a manga page on one of the imageboards, couldn't find that on the internet. Maybe Sailor Moon fans could tell more
22:00 i guess this poem inspired Neil deGrasse Tyson to form his famous quote "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you."😁 And also, your welcome.😊
@@kazghost it’s ok lol I’m not reading the books like I should so I feel like by the time I get to reading them all I’ll probably have forgotten, but it kinda makes me want to read them especially since I enjoy reading them, it’s a crime we’ll never see any of those other characters animated ever, even if the series isn’t as good as the books
@@kazghost but it was a great video it was so interesting and knowing the fact that they get drunk in the second book makes me wanna hurry up and read so I can read that bit
There is actually a manga doujinshi adaptation of the gender bending forms of S.O.S. brigade members and the haruhi storyline. Its called: "The Gender Bend of Haruhi Suzumiya". But now days its really hard to find. Also, the name "John Smith" its an american form of "anonymous" person. It is usually used on medical wards to call people who are yet to find their name. So they use "John Smith" for a generic codename. It is the equivalent of how hispanic people say "Juan del Pueblo" to refer to someone with unknown name or origins. Even Kyon says so himself: "I say it because I want to remain anonymous."
That's what I love about iceberg videos, you end up finding out a lot of cool facts for things you originally knew very little about or for shows or hobbies you didn't have interest in beforehand. I recently made a sequel to this video about Fan-Theories, feel free to check it out.
Depends how far you've read/watched already. If you've seen 'Disappearance' then you can continue reading from book 5 'The Rampage of Haruhi Suzumiya.' Although this covers the Endless Eight story and The Day of Sagittarius, it concludes with the excellent 'Snowy Mountain Syndrome,' which is set immediately after 'Disappearance.' No Spoilers, but it's a little creepy.
I would go with the Light Novels, Its the source material and being a novel it has all of kyon's inner thoughts and conveys a lot more detail. I haven't read all of the manga, but the manga is good after you read the light novels, to see some visual representations of the storylines that never got fully animated.
Dudeee you forget important ones.... First theory that, kyon is the actually god. He created haruhi for his loneless. During disaperance movie, nagato couldnt change him because she had no power for change "real god", she needed his permision. That is why she set the New reality. Haruhi took kyon to New reality and out of others because she was created for kyons loneless and didnt need any body else. At the first episode, kyon Said, he know that espers, aliens and time travelers are not real but he wished that they are real. Kyon also like "weird" girls. Second theory is, disaperance of nagato yuuiki chan is not simple spin off but reconstructed reality for, "what if kyon chose simple life". Nagato reconstructed entire reality for kyons decision. Nagatos New personality after car incident and Nagato during the movie is the exactly same people. But crushing reality.
5:03 Through S1E13 to S2E4 the episode are showing here are keep repeating over and over again..cause the time was stuck between Aug17 to Aug31...And cant pass behind of 11:59PM.. after that all becomes reset and loop from AUG17... It's Like they stretch the episodes very long😂 6:33 Who the hell is she? ..I almost completing season2 and How I don't know her..and whats about her alternative self placed as same as Haruhi in alternative universe?? 10:04 Season2:Movie making era
Now, don't get me wrong, I love this song "Itsumo no fuukei" (background song), but listening to it for 26+ min it's really annoying. Would've been better if you changed melody each time you progress by the layer. Other than that, really cool
The writer of Haruhi's birthday is on Dec. 19, a day after the events of Disappearance on the 18th which I struggle to consider a coincidence. What may be a coincidence though is that the computer game they play is called 'Day of Sagittarius' while the author is a Sagittarius too.
16:57 About Rosenkrantz and Guildenstern are Dead, the plot of the novel is about the two titular characters becoming somewhat meta-aware. They have their own thoughts and agency that is completely different to how they behave in Hamlet, but when the actual plot of Hamlet comes around they can't help but play their role. This causes them to get really existential in their conversations when they aren't playing out their Hamlet roles. I always took it's inclusion as the play Koizumi was doing when he wasn't helping the SOS Brigade make the movie to be a character hint. Maybe Koizumi is a very different person when he isn't around the SOS Brigade.
Also Haruhi Hunting just being pachinko still hurts.
Nice job my dude! Always love to see some new content about haruhi since it numbs the pain of never getting a season 3.
Thank you so much, glad I helped numb the pain just for a little bit.
Thanks for the deep dive. You brought to my attention a few references that I had missed. Dammit! I should have spotted the 'Linda, Linda, Linda' ref. Great little film.
On the subject of Nagato's books, two more titles worth mentioning are 'I Want To Kick You in the Back' by Risa Wataya and 'Hard-Boiled Wonderland and the End of the World' by Haruki Murakami.
Yuki is seen reading 'I Want To Kick You in the Back' in the latter part of the episode 'Someday in the Rain,' the last episode in the chronological order. Essentially it's about a girl who bullies a boy she likes, as she finds it difficult to overcome her sense of loneliness and express her affection for him, whilst the boy is obsessed with a fashion model. Considering Yuki's growing affection for Kyon, her sense of loneliness and Kyon's obsession with Mikuru, it's possible that the book's theme resonated with Yuki. Although she doesn't kick Kyon in the back, she certainly turns his world upside down with the coming alteration to the world, effectively alienating Mikuru (excuse the pun) in the process. It's worth remembering that this episode immediately precedes the Disappearance film. How telling then that Yuki leaves the book behind in the club room, directly in front of the sleeping Kyon. Considering how tidy Yuki usually is, did she deliberately leave the book for Kyon to read? If he had then he might have gained a little insight into Yuki's frame of mind.
In 'Disappearance' the human Nagato is seen reading 'Hard-Boiled Wonderland and the End of the World.' The book explores the questions of identity, alternative worlds and human consciousness. If you read the book then its relevance to the 'Disappearance' story is uncanny. Once again, the pre-human Nagato had left this book (for her human variation to read) as a clue for Kyon, in my opinion.
There is so many hidden details like this that you could probably make a 10 hour video essay about it and barely scratch the surface.
interesting stuff. though i missed the "kyon is actually god and created haruhi to get rid of his own boredom" theory
In the endless eight, there are some recurring details like a glider and an image of a Cumulonimbus cloud that appears in several places.
The most probably the best video that I've seen since becoming a haruhi fan and the amount of happiness I felt on seeing things I already knew and finding out about new things, some of which completely unexpected (Pepa pig) Overall a fun ride just like haruhi Suzumiya the anime.
Hope you make more such videos on haruhi. 😭(I'm crying)
Thank you so much, glad you enjoyed it.
i think the rosencrantz and guildenstern are dead reference is actually really good foreshadowing for itsuki as a character and his beliefs- especially if you look at the character he’s playing (guildernstern). honestly if you even just go look up the themes of the play or analyses of it, it’s very easy to tie back to tmohs and itsuki as a character. and possibly even the agency. considering it was also specifically stated that version of hamlet is the one they were doing in the novels- and itsuki even winks at kyon at the end of it all. there’s lots of little things like that in haruhi that fo deeper the more you look into it
I cannot die before seeing season 3 of haruhi. P.S great video please do a part 2
ikr, we need a Season 3, If bleach can get a revival why can't Haruhi.
My favorite anime series. Thank you so much for making this. I’m going to listen and watch while I do my nighttime routine!
It's only been a year or two since i watched Haruhi, and this song already makes me nostalgic.
I need to read the Haruhi, and Yuki manga.
8:19 i just checked, and according to the website they are hosting a "thanksgiving" from march 9-march 24 2024 to celebrate the 20 year anniversary of both haruhi suzumiya & lucky star
amazing video mate!
Thank You.
A funny fact from me. The parody of Haruhi Suzumiya was filmed on the eve of the Tanibata Anime Festival in 2007 in Russia in the small town Voronezh 0_0. Its name,, Танибата-2007:Сузумия и Коробка-сан" and you can watch ,,Suzumiya's fan clips at the Voronezh Anime Festival 2007 (with subtitles)"
Good job! I am glad this anime still has fans.
awesome video!!! nice investigation love it congrats
Ah yes an Iceberg I can appreciate as Haruhi defined my early college years
recently watched the anime for the first time and I just feel proud for knowing abt the Peppa Pig cameo thing before even watching it lol
Really interesting video!
I'd love a video on the fan theories!
I just made one, its up on my channel right now.
Great Video! Really well put together and such an unexpected yet really cool topic for an 'iceberg' style vid. :D respect.
Thanks man, appreciate it.
I just got into this series, and I found your vid very helpful. Thanks ^^
Great job, thanks for the iceberg video.
It was really funn I enjoyed this very much I also learned a bit. Have you ever got a chance to play the Haruhi TCG?
Thank You, I have heard of the Haruhi TCG, but never played it.
I'm coming back to this video after finally completing the light novels to see if I now fully understand everything. I just wish that I didn't perfectly remember the spoilers for over a year...
I'm sorry for spoilers.
I hate it when I try to forget a spoiler for something, but it just stays there burnt into your mind.
@@kazghost Yeah it seems like the more you try to forget something the more it sticks in your mind. Maybe I should have used that strategy in school lol. And don't worry about the spoilers, it didn't ruin the books for me or anything.
Jhon Smith isnt just the most common name in English, it is also used for when you dont want to give someone your name to remain anonymous.
Kyon introduces himself as Jhon Smith because of this, since giving his real name would clue her in that Kyon is a time traveler.
Great video!
Edit: I made a correction but I realized immediatly I was wrong lol
Nice video 🤜
Edit:- do more of these!
Regarding the abyss comment, "endless eight is a masterpiece" : I 100% agree! And as anyone (I mean anyone normal), I absolutely HATED it, with all my guts, the first time I watched it.
I sweared, I chivered, I shouted (virtually) at the cast for "butchering that great saga". I couldn't resist the temptation to fast forward some of the moments. And yet, you still can't help but watch most of it. Once it's over, you feel a great relief, but not the kind of forgiving relief, just "thanks god, you wasted so much of my time, let's forget about all this and let's keep going with what remains of this still great story".
Years later, I rewatched the entire Haruhi anime & movie serie. But I didn't skip a SECOND of the arc. It's like a (very) sour candy. Or actually, more like a sour party cake made by the greatest chef of all time. Once you are used to the taste, you actually can enjoy it. And god it's so good! You don't even understand anymore what it was like, why you couldn't appreciate it, what was wrong with you and your too young soul and senses to be able to appreciate such a masterpiece.
nice video
12:43 technically 2022 with the “Redux” episodes most have speculated is Rel’s way of adapting Endless Eight
i think a fan theory video would be neat in your style of videos
AFAIR, there's also a Yuki Nagato-like character with very similar name and appearance in Sailor Moon manga from beginning of 1990s. She was called Yukita Nagatora or something like that, a very smart girl who joined somebody's class. Seen a manga page on one of the imageboards, couldn't find that on the internet. Maybe Sailor Moon fans could tell more
cool
The day of sagittarius 3 is also a reference to Space battleship yamato or Star Blazers in the US
man there really is a ice berg for literally anything
If it exists, there is a por... Iceberg of it.
yeah rule 35 of the universe
15:25 - a memory unlocked
22:00 i guess this poem inspired Neil deGrasse Tyson to form his famous quote "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you."😁
And also, your welcome.😊
I got spoiled by this video but I’ll possibly forget them
sorry about that, probably should of had a spoiler warning.
@@kazghost it’s ok lol I’m not reading the books like I should so I feel like by the time I get to reading them all I’ll probably have forgotten, but it kinda makes me want to read them especially since I enjoy reading them, it’s a crime we’ll never see any of those other characters animated ever, even if the series isn’t as good as the books
@@kazghost but it was a great video it was so interesting and knowing the fact that they get drunk in the second book makes me wanna hurry up and read so I can read that bit
It's so funny how many people read Hyperion only because it appeared in the Haruhi anime
There is actually a manga doujinshi adaptation of the gender bending forms of S.O.S. brigade members and the haruhi storyline. Its called: "The Gender Bend of Haruhi Suzumiya". But now days its really hard to find.
Also, the name "John Smith" its an american form of "anonymous" person. It is usually used on medical wards to call people who are yet to find their name. So they use "John Smith" for a generic codename. It is the equivalent of how hispanic people say "Juan del Pueblo" to refer to someone with unknown name or origins. Even Kyon says so himself: "I say it because I want to remain anonymous."
The gag dub would've been hilarious and very interesting but I can see why they would scrap the idea lol
i dont even watched this anime,and i watch whole this video
That's what I love about iceberg videos, you end up finding out a lot of cool facts for things you originally knew very little about or for shows or hobbies you didn't have interest in beforehand.
I recently made a sequel to this video about Fan-Theories, feel free to check it out.
12:26 I'm so glad this was on the Iceberg because Haroohee Suzumiya is the best abridged in my opinion so much better than the original dub 😆🤣
25:00 masamune after 12 years❗️❓ what😭
nice video
12:04 now i really wanna play that game but it's in japanese
25:34 FINALLY !!! SOMEONE SAYS IT !!!
hey guys, I stopped the video bc I was worried for spoilers - as an anime only watcher, is there a point in the light novels where I can just pick up
Depends how far you've read/watched already. If you've seen 'Disappearance' then you can continue reading from book 5 'The Rampage of Haruhi Suzumiya.' Although this covers the Endless Eight story and The Day of Sagittarius, it concludes with the excellent 'Snowy Mountain Syndrome,' which is set immediately after 'Disappearance.' No Spoilers, but it's a little creepy.
The gag dub would've been peak lmao
i’m on season 2 rn and really wanna get a tangible version. what do you think is better objectively, the light novel or manga?
I would go with the Light Novels, Its the source material and being a novel it has all of kyon's inner thoughts and conveys a lot more detail.
I haven't read all of the manga, but the manga is good after you read the light novels, to see some visual representations of the storylines that never got fully animated.
@@kazghost alright i appreciate it
Dudeee you forget important ones.... First theory that, kyon is the actually god. He created haruhi for his loneless. During disaperance movie, nagato couldnt change him because she had no power for change "real god", she needed his permision. That is why she set the New reality. Haruhi took kyon to New reality and out of others because she was created for kyons loneless and didnt need any body else. At the first episode, kyon Said, he know that espers, aliens and time travelers are not real but he wished that they are real. Kyon also like "weird" girls. Second theory is, disaperance of nagato yuuiki chan is not simple spin off but reconstructed reality for, "what if kyon chose simple life". Nagato reconstructed entire reality for kyons decision. Nagatos New personality after car incident and Nagato during the movie is the exactly same people. But crushing reality.
This video was just for Facts and Easter eggs. I'm considering doing a separate video just for fan theories though.
5:03 Through S1E13 to S2E4 the episode are showing here are keep repeating over and over again..cause the time was stuck between Aug17 to Aug31...And cant pass behind of 11:59PM..
after that all becomes reset and loop from AUG17...
It's Like they stretch the episodes very long😂
6:33 Who the hell is she? ..I almost completing season2 and How I don't know her..and whats about her alternative self placed as same as Haruhi in alternative universe??
10:04 Season2:Movie making era
IF Haruhi were to have SS3. NGNL SS2 would be first to announce.
20:37 i've read "Spaghettarius" instead of Sagittarius
5:18 same thing with Azumanga Daioh
Thanks a lot for all this info, my autistic brain has a lot to deep into now
Now, don't get me wrong, I love this song "Itsumo no fuukei" (background song), but listening to it for 26+ min it's really annoying. Would've been better if you changed melody each time you progress by the layer. Other than that, really cool
Thanks for the advice, I did just that for my Haruhi fan-theory iceberg.
Dende!?? GOD AGAIN!!?!?
Kadokawa folms released the anime...
LalAla No more spoilers
you forgot about Kyon not being Kyon's real name but a nickname
John smith?
Fine fine.. I'll give it a try.. but I will not like it.
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