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EVH Striped Series vs 2020 EVH "Frankie"
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2020
- Who wins?? (Frankie)
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Thanks Steve there is never too much EVH anything
I can't believe nobody's talking about how beefy house of pain sounded on the frankie. That guitar has balls.
A EVH-salesman said, that the singlecoil and the switch are functional if you wanted to wire them correctly.
Those are Fender-parts
I love my Frankie! Got it a few months ago. Now that Eddie's passed, I've reignited the spark to listen to and play Van Halen every single day!
Totally! That’s exactly how I have been describing it. Ed’s passing sparked something in me to start playing again-just like he did when I got my first guitar, a Kramer, in 1984. So I am playing more than I have in almost 2 decades. I even started writing songs, and built a little home studio.
My first goal was to learn eruption, note for note, and up to speed. I don’t think I ever really completely realized how fast he played that. Trying to get it right, and under one 1:44 seconds is quite a challenge.
It was a strange twist of fate that this all happened during a pandemic, when I had a lot of extra time to dive back in to Eddie, and Van Halen.
Fortunately, I live close to the guys. So I periodically drive by Al and Ed’s childhood home, and Dave’s huge mansion. I actually just drove right by Dave’s old high school here in near Pasadena. Feels good to be close. Still hard to believe! 🎸
Hello, how is the neck profile of the Frankie? Is it like a Fender modern C-shape? I'm hoping it'll be "Ibanez-thin" or the Super Wizard thin, but am not that hopeful.
@@giancarlom. It's thin. Out of all of my guitars, I think it feels most like my "Ultra Strat" neck but with a flatter fretboard.
The original Bumble Bee is buried with Dimebag Daryl. He wanted Eddie to build him a guitar nd was murdered before Eddie could build it. So Eddie said Dimebag was an original that deserved an original and pulled the bumblebee out of his collection and it went in Daryls casket.
What a waste of a guitar
@@cockers6682 I know right?
@@cockers6682 you wouldn’t say that if it was your casket.
@@darthrevan6054 of course I wouldn’t I would be fucking dead
@@cockers6682😭😭😭😭
Frankie's missing his quarter
Noticed
For $1699
C'mon!!
and reflectors..
Good catch.
Nice catch.
I get how everyone gets all technical and shares there experience with the gear geeks community and all. When I was growing up learning guitar we all just got together and jammed trading pickups and taking apart old guitars and making new ones that's the generation X of musicians I wish we had internet and RUclips back then ....😎 would of been something else.
The red one is just so cool. Like you're actually playing his guitar. Amazing how they got it so close to the original. Must be really cool for you to play considering how big of a fan you are. Hope you're doing ok now. Was sad to see you cry but just shows how much a musician can mean to someone.
I got my Franky October 6th ! Got a call from my guitar 🎸 shop informing me that my Franky arrived. The same day Eddie died! How weird is that. I pre ordered my Franky 3 months back
He wanted you to have one... That's all I can say about that. Very cool , but yet so F"*king sad at the same time.. I felt sick as crap Oct 6 ,2020.... Just when you though it couldn't get any worse out here, and there it was.. Sad , sad day.. But on a happy 🎵🎶, You've got a piece of history my friend. 👍 Take care of her, and yourself.. Stay safe out there.🇺🇸
Dam I need one of these guitars now. God speed Ed. Thank you for changing my entire life.
I own one and I hate it
@@irreversablecontentment4651 then why would you buy something you would end up hating
Even if you're reviewing something everyone has already reviewed, you always add something new just by covering it. We don't come here just for the gear we come here to hear your thoughts and listen to the playing.
I played one of these in a shop near end of September. I'm sure I won't see another for a long time. Great guitar. I can't afford it, but a great guitar. May he rest in peace.
Earliest I’ve been to a SFB post. So glad you posted a comparison, I was seriously looking at the black/white striped series but didn’t know how it compares to the others. May wait and go for the Frankie.
Agreed. I like the sound of the Frankie better as well but I tend to like darker voiced guitars. Enjoy. That thing is beyond cool.
Hi Steve , I'm with you on this ,the Frankie is more of the vibe than the Striped series. And the one mostly wanted by me ,you and a million guitar players.Great stuff.🎸✌👍
I just got mine yesterday and it was perfect, the workman ship was awesome. What I did since I only dive bomb and not pull up I made a 1" X 2" X 1/16" flat piece of steel and installed it with 2 small screws. I shimmed it with guitar picks till the bridge was level and bumped the block with it and screwed it down, it makes it for me easier to tune it. I have master built strats but this relic Frankie is so fun to play, its fast that neck on mine has a nice natural oil and not to dark. Anyway if someone is thinking of getting 1 dont wait till they double in price, they are worth the $1,899.00 is what they go for now. Rock on.
Great review, Steve. It's all fine shades of better. The EVH brand is awesome and will never let you down as a player! I've been playing EVH gear since the original Peavey 5150 amps and Wolfgang guitars.
That Franky fingerboard is just too damn dark! I'm still going to buy one though.👍😀
Make your own, way cheaper!!
They don’t actually look that dark 9n other ones I’ve seen.
Awesome! To me, the B&W is the most accurate EVH repro. Perfect graphics, black pickguard - looks damned close to the original "Frankie". Ed also said he wished he didn't paint it red and white later on.
Good he did though because that's the instantly recognisable one.
For an imported, mass produced guitar. That EVH Frankie Relic is truly extraordinary. I would never buy one but damn....it's extremely impressive. The amount of detail that has gone into it.
Just excellent.
Holy shit I haven’t stumbled across your channel since the (“pixy licks” ?) days! Glad to see you’re still making content!
Frankie. Different neck, breathable finish on entire guitar body, 2 giant holes routed out for pickups (changes the tone), different mounting of the pickup. Costs almost double. Yeah, it’s better. It should be. And it is. I’m ignoring the relic part. It’s worth the extra price to me just for the tone.
Great Job Boston Steve! your tone and playing also help to do the video great justice. I have a Frankie on order, just snagged the shark. Thanks for doing this for us.
Always enjoy your videos, Steve, but I think it’s important to note Bumblebee was NOT used on VH II. It only arrived the day of the photo sessions for the record. Frankenstein was used for most if not all guitar tracks on II. Nice job as always
Yes And Ed didn't like the way the black and yellow sounded. He changed necks and added a tone knob in the back cavity area but was never satisfied with it's sound.
@@raymondlugo9960 and buried it with Dimebag Darrell....
…and the Ibanez. He used it a lot on VH2.
Great info, great review! Biggest thing with Floyd’s, is the setup. A properly set up Floyd will rock solid until string breaks or string change, then you need to stretch Em a bit. I love them!
Black & yellow is still my fav. Such a no-nonsense setup with balls. I wish I was a good guitar player to justify owning more than 1. Great review mate. Respect from Australia.
Watch a RUclips clip of Rick James on Soul Train from the early '80's...
You'll see Tommy McDermott playing the black & yellow guitar but it has a different pick up, rosewood fingerboard, and a painted headstock. It just about blew my mind...lol
Thanks Steve for these VH videos you have done. Have been listening to them all week & I am always amazed not only at EVH playing of course, but really what gets me is how great the songs and parts were. All that music started to get written when Eddie & Dave were in early 20s
The yellow and black sounded best to my ears - more full sounding.
Awesome Brophy! Mine's on the way from The Music Zoo. I'd love to have it now but I can wait a bit to get my constant EVH reminder
I'm getting a Bumblebee tomorrow and then a Frankie.....when they aren't sold out everywhere lol.
I think in my opinion, EVH “Frankie” is arguably the most iconic guitar ever! Maybe or maybe not? Oh well
@Deatrox You're not wrong, all great Ax's no doubt about it. It's just something about the Frankenstrat, it has a different kind of character . And it's one that stands out more than most.. But you made a good call on the others, cool Ax's , cool Guy's..👍
Yes...And No. Since those tiny Action Figure size Axe Heaven has quite a few to get. ZZ TOP Has so many wacky ones too🤘😎🤘
@Deatrox when you mentioned Hendrix’s strat , do you have his Olympic white from Woodstock in mind or his more frequently used black one ? Very curious to hear your or anybody else’s answer.
All good. SRV's strat...........'nuff said.
David Gilmour’s Black strat belongs in there.
Great review Steve, as always! Hey, btw, the neck pickup and the 5way are fully functional and can be hooked up, per Fender.
I love that Frankie. The most iconic guitar ever. I placed my order for one through Sweetwater and they are talking early summer before I get mine 😩😩
I’m listening thru my system, sound is amazing!
Wiring for neck pickup is there. It's under the pickup selector in the middle. You can wire it up if you like.
I can not believe how the prices keep skyrocketing on these!!!
Yeah it’s a joke these 3 striped series was 799 for white or bumblebee and 100 more for the Frankie stripe job back then 899….then they jumped to 899\999 and now they are 1099!! The 5150 went from 1399 to 1699 and the 2020 Frankie relic started out at 1699 and now is 1900!! Shoulda bought one along time ago…
@@toddprater14 you can buy a dhgate chinese one for 250. i did. they do a great job relic and hand striping. hardware got replaced though.
Great video Steve! I also got one recently and also have the striped series and I agree 100% with you. The Frankie sounds warmer and compared to the Striped White one. I also love it my Frankie. One thing that I did with both guitar actually, was to route a pickup cavity on the White one and enlarge the cavity on the neck on the Frankie one. I know a lotta people will say this is a sacrilegious specially with Eddie's passing and all that, but my guitars have to satisfy me in the first place ;) I just felt that both guitars lack versatility by not having a neck pickup. On the neck I installed the USA Wolfgang neck pickup version and on the bridge, I actually installed a Seymour Duncan CC (SH-11) on both and let me tell you. They both sound AMAZING ;) Anyway, just wanted to share my craziness ;)
The pickup is actually functional but its not hooked up. You can hook up the neck if you want to. The black and white wires are attached to the pickup. I've seen people put push-pull knob for the volume knob.
I have the "Circles/See Ya" and the Bumblebee. I paid full price for the Bumblebee but got the Circles for $545. It was listed as a blemished item but there's nothing wrong with it.
Thanks for inspiring me to play Eddie...RIP BRO
Just got my Frankie & completely agree. Neck is thicker than my Bumble Bee for sure. Tone definitely fatter as well & just sounds so different that my Evh Bumble Bee. Had a Circles, Had a Red black & White, but kept my BumbleBee & the Frankie is the biggest sounding of the bunch. It has A fatter tone, fatter neck & just resonates like a totally different guitar. The Frankie Neck also does not feel similar to my Charvel San Dimas, the othe Evh’s kinda do. It also cleans up so well with the volume pot I thought it might of had a Treble bleed circuit in there. It’s a keeper for sure. & I’ll be suing it for some Completely Unchained shows this year. Keep the great content coming. Great comparison. 👍
Thanks for the review. I have the B&W and Frankie back-ordered and hope they show up soon. I also hope that the neck on the Frankie's neck doesn't have that dark stained oiled finish like the one Steve demo'd. I hear a lot of people complain that they are stained way too dark and I agree. If so, going to have to do some sanding. Sounds good Steve.
I just got mine yesterday from being back ordered from early October...they seem to of gone a little lighter on the necks, but still has a aged look to it. I’ve seen some that look too light , almost no stain. Mine was made this year , so they might of adjusted the dark stain for the newest ones. I was concerned too but I’m really happy the way the neck come out. It’s a great guitar. Really feels like a little peace of Eddie is in the house...Cheers.
Hi Steve...it's Cameron Cooper's Dad...love your channel.. I think it's not quite right to highlight the differences on these as if they could be different pickups etc...I have owned the vh1 and circles plus of course, heard the new Frankie being blasted into oblivion by Cameron... the vh1 and circles were supposed to be identical and sound hugely different... it's all down to wood and not voodoo on this occasion...the vh1 was really heavy and the circles light as a feather ... clearly wood changes tone a lot on these fab geetars...
Your son should be proud, he’s such a great influence of mine.
Of all the reviews I’ve seen your tone and playing definitely sounds the most ‘Van Halen’ I’ve heard! I’m going for the black and white striped one myself! All the best from England. 🏴
Great video. That said, I've never understood the allure of these guitars (e.g., copies of famous player guitars). I'm reminded of an interview with Wolfgang where he said Eddie told him, "Don't copy me. Create your own sound". That's where my mind has been with guitars/amps. I don't want someone else's sound. I want my own. Eddie, Page, Lifeson, Vai, Angus...they're all greats because they created their own sound. But I get it. This is a review/comparison of three guitars.
you can make the guitar sound like anything you want. Its just an iconic look.
got mine a week ago (ordered back in Dec, 2020) and it is indeed a great guitar. Am rather a Gibson LP player, and have to admit this guitar rocks the hell out of it, a true blast. A superstrat is way lightyears ahead of any stratocaster. Mr. Eddie van Halen's genius propelled a legendary design towards a legendary tone and the EVH Frankie just delivers that beautiful tone.
Hey Steve can you tell us what your signal chain is for this vid? Sounds great!
I was wondering that too. It’s got to be a modeling amp, or maybe a multi effects unit. Not the greatest tone. But does sound similar to what I’m getting through my new boss multi-effects unit.
Makes me think, as I’ve been doing already, to keep trying to dial in a more natural ‘brown’ sound. I’d rather I didn’t have that slight digital sound. Which sounds like what he is getting here. But it’s been fun chasing tone with this Boss GT-1, I got it a couple months ago. And nice to go from old Van Halen, to some Stevie, to some Pantera, Ozzy, with just a quick stomp.
So I’ll keep trying this out for a while, before maybe going back and just finishing up my old pedalboard. That’s just such a can of worms, ha ha. 🤘🏻🎸
The neck pickup isn't a dummy pickup. It does work but it's not hooked up just like the real frankie
One of the most underrated channels... Why do you not have more subs?
Great review on all guitars......thank you for not playing nothing but Eddie licks. One of the better reviews I've come across....it was nice to hear different riffs and hear the differences in each one....good job!!
Exactly like you said! The EVH I played felt great-just like my old Kramer I got in 1984.
Comfortable, like an old pair of shoes!!! I had no idea it would feel like that. Definitely worth a couple grand. 🤘🏻🎸🇺🇸
Thanks Steve🤘. Great video and never enough EVH at all. Already pre-ordered my "Frankie".
They need the 1971 quarter next to the bridge
Kind of like Frank Spear said about the fretboard, I wish they would have made it a lighter shade. I still want one and I have already seen a video on how to lighten up the neck finish.
Eddie's spec is body mounted...same with tremelo. Do not float per Eddie....for more tone transfer..
I got my Frankie early special ordered before introduced at Namm...got it in May 2020 before the legend passed..
Love it...best tone for me and playability is great..set strings low and intonation to a fine tune...Love it!!
Both the single coil and the five way are functioning parts, they’re just not wired up! The single is ALNICO 2 BEVELED, COIL INDUCTANCE - 3.86H DC RESISTANCE - reads in between 7K-9KΩ
There is a Frankie in Birmingham Alabama Guitar Center as of July 18, 2021
What about a Wolfgang Special vs the striped series guitars? Where does that fit into the mix for you?
Great review and I can hear the difference. Matt Brown said the switch and neck pickup are real, not fake. They will function if you wire them up.
As you said, the black&white sounds brighter than the bumblebee.
The Franky is awesome
To my ears, I think the white ones sounds the best. To each their own!
Thanks for the great reviews on each guitar ,I love all three guitars and just purchased the black and white one and it should arrive just in time for Christmas……..I can’t wait. 😎🙈
Great review man! Wifey got me one for Christmas 2022!!!
They don't make the Frankie in a left handed version, but they offer the Red, White, Black Stripe series in a left handed version and I just got mine about 2 weeks ago. I ordered it back in October of 2020.
I love it. Feels very natural. Great neck too.
i just saw one on Pro Audio Star a lefty
Agreed with ya steve when it comes to tone preference. The frankie definitely sounds better, but there's just something on the Bumble that I can't resist, maybe it's the (personal opinion) color scheme that attracts me
...like a bumble bee to a flower! ;-)
I'd love to get my hands on a wolfgang or one of these, too bad I live in the sticks and the canadian dollar sucks. Right now to get the V.H sound I use my strat with a dimarzio super distortion in the bridge running into Bias fx
Thanks for the review! You just confirmed my strong suspicion that the Frankie is the better of the three. I ordered one a week ago. I was quoted December delivery. Fingers crossed!🤞
Great video. I have all 4 of them, including the "Red" not reviewed here. 1 HUGE issue I have with "Red" is the output jack being on the side instead of the top of the body. Other than that the 3 Striped series are pretty much the same, all very good, but "Frankie" just feels, and smells and looks so authentic. The B&W, I call VH-1, is pretty awesome as well. BB looks the prettiest, just gorgeous. Frankie and VH-1 are my favorites. I sanded all of the necks and treated them with various oils and waxes and the are all fantastic to play. "Frankie" is, for whatever reason, maybe the "Eddie dust" they sprinkled on it, just on another level to play. And I just stare at it as though Ed left it here accidently. And yes, I added the 1971D quarter. Oh and I agree with you, I have an American built Charvel So-Cal from 2010, plays exactly the same. I also removed the D-Tuna from Frankie.
Honestly my slime green charvel San dimas I would most likely only swap out the zebra jb/59 for Wolfgang's to get a evh guitar. Same manufacturer anyways probably explains why eddy did charvel and also why you said it felt like a San dimas with the bumblebee.
I have a Neon Pink San Dimas (2018) and I agree with you 100%
@@greasymonkeyguitars9292 bro any neon color tickles my fancy. Honestly I liked all colors. Almost got pink but I've always wanted a slime green.
@@greasymonkeyguitars9292 right now my newest is a 2020 jackson pro rr24q but the winter storm version. Love how they been using distortions over jb/59 classic choice. Only thing I got against it is black binding all around it but ebony fretboard makes it so you can barely notice the binding on neck lmfao. The purple model has white and its obvious.
@@patrickh.1658 I was so close to getting Slime Green, but the Pink was on a sale, so I got that, but a Jackson Dinky DK 2 in green would be sweet! 🤘🤘
@@greasymonkeyguitars9292 how about that 6 pack of tone? Isn't that what they called charvel with push pull
I've got the Black and White , Bumble and the 5150 . Bumble is my favorite and then the B&W , the 5150 last . I pit a Frankie pick up in the Bumble and 5150 . Here's the problem , the B&W has the Wolfie has the "Brown sound" balks , the Bumble has the "Brown sound " with the Frankie , a little more balls but the 5150 with the Frankie is still tinny sounding , my least favorite . And I have the "Frankie " on order .
I'm looking to get a B&W which comes with a Wolfgang pickup. I'm after the classic tone too, as opposed to the more modern sound. Do you think the Wolfgang pickups are good for that tone, or would investing in a Frankenstein pickup be worth it here?
@@CoryA2503 , the wolfie in my b&w has good tone , close to the original sound. But also , you have to drop the floyd rose down until it sitting on the body . That is the problem , because it causes fret buzz , so you have adjust it . This is also what Eddie said , has to touch , be on the body . When I did that it helped the wolfie , I had the quarter deal , still sounded tinny . But now it has the , close to original sound .
Great video. I've got my frankie relic waiting at home right now. FedEx dropped it off a few hours ago. I can't wait to play it!!
Yep the Frankie sounds way better, more sustain too..
Its got brass block just add the titanium
It has a warmer sound because it has no pickguard that year of strap the cavities for the pickups are exposed and it gives more residents that in the neck is unfinished so it has a darker sound with more resonance that guitar sounds just about like a Gibson Les Paul standard damn near identical and it does sound like Eddie's guitar
What are you playing through? I love it!
THU Software, no amp
The other difference between the Bumblebee and the white one is, that the Bumblebee has a routing for the electronics in the back.
The white one doesn't have this routing, because its routing is under the pickguard.
One thing no one brings up is the frets on this one are much bigger than the others. The guitar is acoustically much louder and more articulate than the other stripped series and sounds better to me. I have the action very low but still felt higher than my other striped guitars. It’s the big frets I finally figured out. Because of that it is not as comfortable to play.
Good comparison Steve....have a nice monday....oh and I agree the Frankie sounds a little better
damni lucked out and got a frankie a few weeks ago. definitely the best offering of the striped series yet. that worn neck is amazing.
Considering my wayward experience getting various *Epiphone* models to reflect on my admiration of different musicians like the Beatles, I've decided that I wouldn't want a signature model loke an EVH model unless I knew I wasn't going to get trapped in the box of only playing like Eddie - or just playing Queen if I'm holding a Brian May Special. The closest I've come might be the one built for me in July 2019 that loosely emulates the black Strat Deluxe models w/ maple fingerboard owned by Andy Summers and Sting in the 80s.
More KITTENS. Just think Pixxy, a kittens and rock guitar channel...that has to be a winner
Steve thanks for the review. The oiled neck makes a big difference.
great review! Very relaxing to watch.
With my replica I got it for free because it needed parts and I put an old Seymour Duncan in it. It’s sounds a little brighter when playing earlier records (except women and children for some reason). It ofc replicates 1984 pretty much perfect because I have the evh over drive pedal. It’s a fun guitar has the truck lights on the back and everything. However I’m a little mad this came out right after I finished it.
Holy cow the Wolfgang guitars are out of control on Reverb. The 2015 Wolfgang red, white, black with the rare (800 made) matching headstock listing for $15k. Fifteen thousand! Last year you could buy this same guitar for $1,500 and that was pushing the limit.
Thanks for the great review!
Nice review I'm waiting for a LH Wolfgang Standard. Saw some on ebay a few years ago.
awesome stuff steve, I hope you get a shot to play the striped series 5150 and tell us what you think. I love the look of the old Kramer style. Thank you for the content.
The neck pick up and three way will work if hooked up they are not fake
The slanted pickup, i think, was because the original has a pickup that didn’t match the string spacing, so he turned it to line up. Correct me if I’m wrong
I like the brightness of the white one. Probably because I’m partially deaf from standing in front of a marshal stack for years.😂
sounds mean love it frankie rip evh
I would send back a guitar with that much damage and this lazy paintjob 😉
No, to be serious I love „Frankie“ and the price is okay. Sounds maybe a bit different, definitely feels different because the neck finish. I think Eddie left us with some great an iconic guitars like Frankie, the „Kramer 5150“ or the Wolfgang. Sorry, sounds like a commercial for the EVH brand. But I realy miss Eddie... he did so much for this Instrument. Still a true source of inspiration! Thanks for your video, great!
I was going to say it's similar to the Charvels. The striped white and the bumble bee do sound little brighter.
You can feel the raw wood on the stripped series as well. It’s also oil rubbed.
I keep seeing like 2020,2021,2022 models are they all the same? And same scratches and stripes?
Steve how many guitars have you? Have you a gibson explorer? I'm thinking about buying one 😎
The differences in these guitars are so so minor they all sound great I think it comes down to how it feels in your hand because not every next going to be the same even though they're close to the same size
Put a brass block in and titanium in the fr it will change the sound
Nobody talks about the tone ....I guess this is one of the best I've heard so far ....are you still on Overloud as you mentioned a few years back ? I'm on other platforms so your hint on how to get there would really be great ...in total honesty in this vid I preferred the Black and White sound 🙂