You can buy a myriad of continuous/piano hinges from McMaster-Carr with more than wide enough leaves. No better way to distribute the loading! I rebuilt our platform to handle a California King-sized Purple Hybrid and my 6'-5", 292# self. Due to my wife's petite stature, I ditched the struts and installed linear actuators. Push of a button and the bed lifts and second push it closes. 12VDC units that are off-the-shelf items. Be advised that you may have issue with the strut mounts with the extra heavy duty struts. They may deform the light duty brackets or cause the screws to tear out. On your washer/dryer plates, use of external tooth lockwashers under the head of the sheet metal screws is appropriate. Forgive me, half a century as a practicing engineer. 😁
Just a suggestion. I added a piece of carpet to the plywood under the mattress. Every time I flipped the mattress I found I had to remove a lot of splinters from the mattress due to the plywood. The carpet solved that problem. Oh, and I got the carpet free from a local carpet company. Asked them if they had any scrap pieces of carpet and they did.
Bed project is complete. I just reinforced the existing hinges with a 1x4 under the plywood. Didn't have time to go buy new hinges. Lets see if it lasts. It works great now. I would have to lift the bed and then hold it up with my back while my wife got stuff out or put stuff in. So, this is so much better!
We went to Lowe’s and got foam insulation pieces for air conditioners and put them around our washer /dryer combo to keep it from moving! 3-1/2-ft x 2-1/4-in Gray A/C Foam Air Conditioner Weatherstrip
Do you think the cabinets are strong enough to withstand the machines bouncing about ? Another fail for the RV manufacturing sector and doubt about their research and development process ,a case of ,oh there's an opening let's chuck things in there and hope for the best . You wouldn't accept a vehicle if the battery fell out or the windows rattled out ,so why accept RV failures
When I was young and a crazy hippie living in a schoolie I used strap gate hinges. Our Winnebago had piano hinges. Those go on uprights - where the folding key cover goes. I grew up with a parlor grand and it had real hinges. I’m keeping the mattress that came on the Brinkley. I love that the foot end is curved. Since it doesn’t hurt my back it’s staying.
The hinges are a great idea. However, if you are concerned even a little bit about them pulling out, may i recommend taking a little time to pull the screws out and put a little wood glue in each hole. it may help the screws from pulling back out in any situation that you had mentioned in the video.
Maybe consider replacing the outboard hinge screws on the bed platform with #8 or #10 thru bolts with washers and lock nuts. Would give you plenty of holding strength for the long term without relying on the bite of a wood screw.
Try a piano hinge, some people call them a continuous hinge. Amazon even has them 3“ x 36“ two of them being 72 inches will solve your issue. I’ve used them before many times actually.
Yes on "meat" for the threads to grab hold. "This is me flipping the mattress." If you were able to forsee every failure before it happened, you'd be so rich you'd know Warren Buffet.
I got off on the Interstates. I have found there are too many potholes. I travel US Hwys and State, county route’s, they bring me thru towns I never would have seen, and I stop in the local museums, or interesting parts of the town. Surprisingly, we get some good eats in town!
Nice video. Appreciate the update on the bed. My wife just complained this past weekend that she can't pick it up with the heavier mattress now. The bed is my next project after I finish the compression latches on the propane doors and especially the front door with thousands of dollars' worth of solar equipment and batteries in it. They give us two thumb twists and a terrible little lock up there. Still deciding on three lockable compression locks or two on the edges with a slam latch in the middle
Silicone / RTV would anchor the washer and dryer without any screws. Finding the right amount to apply, takes some practice. (Coat the metal straps, hold in place till silicone sets). But; your silicone method makes disassembly much easier / cleaner / better, if ever necessary. Outstanding vid., thanks again.
We just picked up a new Rockwood 2720IK from Indiana and it came with a shockingly comfortable mattress. The 2506s we are selling tomorrow came with a mattress made of cardboard 😅
Absolutely heard of the phrase got enough meat. 12 years in the Marine Corps Air Wing we used that frequently. nice jobs. hope it all works well for you guys. Thanks for another great video. Hope you 2 have continued safe travels.
I agree with you on the stock RV mattresses just being a placeholder, and that's fine. I don't want an RV manufacturer putting a $1k mattress in my unit, charging me for it, and then I have to replace it with one I like. We've had residential Sealy Posturpedic mattresses in our fifth wheel for over a year of full-time use, and we LOVE them! They are pretty heavy though. Our queen size is about 100 lbs.
We replaced our bed storage hinges with full width piano hinges the first month we had our RV due to hinge issues. Ace hardware had piano hinges that had a wider hinge area.
Funny, I have the same problem with the washer and dryer! I will be fixing it for the second time now but will use silicone and hope the new fix last longer.😁
Chad, if the screws don't hold on the washer dryer, try double sided tape on the bracket along with the screws. The tape will eliminate the vibration between the bracket and the washer/dryer and keep things snug.
One other tip, anytime you need to line up hinges, put a straight edge along one side long enough to span all the hinges. Place the hinges edges to the straight edge.
If the dryer fix doesn’t work a better option might be to use rivnuts instead of plain rivets…..that way if you need to detach you can just unscrew the bolt from the rivnut.
Since it's so easy to open now, what about adding an eye hook in the front. Seems it would come open if you hit a good bump(s). We went though Indiana and those roads are extremely rough. EXCELLENT Video! Thanks
There's another trick that can be done to the straps on the washer and dryer units - before the straps are put on, insert a thin piece of auto trim self adhesive tape (think the 3m foam stuff but it's thinner and wicked strong). Then put the screws through and into the sides. The tape will help give another level of adhesion to the strap screws. To make assembly much easier, remove the protective tape and put a piece of folded parchment paper in it's place that you can pull out (much easier than the original tape ever comes out). I've done this fix to a few brackets in my 30' DP that are still holding strong 6 years later.
Chad, if the silicone does not hold those screws in try some 3m 5200 Marine sealant. Its a lot tougher then standard silicone. I used it to secure lots of screws that would back out on my bass boat when silicone would not. A dab on the threads will do it. The pounding and vibrations that a boat goes thru in rough water make our roads looks like smooth sailing......
Thanks for the video! And if you think the roads in USA are bad well do not cross the border and come visit us in Quebec because I just spend 3 weeks in Maryland, Pennsylvania and New York and we were thinking we were in heaven compare to here! 😜🤪 stay safe and thanks again!👍
You might want to consider rivnut inserts to help prevent screws from loosening. Essentially, one drills a hole large enough to accept the appropriate RIVNUT, the RIVNUT is installed using the proper tool. Put a screw in and tighten it down. A little silicone might help keep it from unscrewing.
Chad, for the W/D, you can always use both sheet metal screws and rivets at the same time. Another solution to keep in your book of ideas is a riv nut tool. Lots of grills and such use these. It is used to put in a threaded insert. Much like the rivet, this tool expands the threaded insert. Then, take your bolts, put some blue gel thread locker on and you are good to go. If you use blue, you can break it loose if you need to remove. Red, forget it! Use gel so it stays put and doesn't run down your hands or W/D!Limited-time deal: TOLRET Rivet Nut Tool Rivet Nut Kit, Rivnut Tool Kit with 10 Metric and SAE Mandrels, 100 Pcs Rivet Nuts Assortment Kit, Professional Ratchet Nutsert Tool Kit with Rugged Carrying Case, TR21 a.co/d/7X8vlHL
I just went through this upgrading to the 130 lb struts. They went on easy but when I went to close it everything fell apart under the pressure. Had to reinforce all of the strut holders and hinges. I was a little pissed it turned into more of a project at the time but I do enjoy modifying stuff on my rv to make it better. Anyway it just happened last week and following y'all I clicked on this video and had a good laugh knowing I wasn't the only one who dealt with this. I keep finding and modifying areas where the rv manufacturers cut costs using cheap shit😂 Thanks for the great content as always!
I have a Montana High Country and had to pull the bed frame out, rebuild it and add metal brackets and cross beams at a campground! - Light weight and RVs doesn’t always work. And no we are not overweight. The bed frame supports basically broke the frame just opening and closing it!
If the silicone OVER the screws doesn’t work, consider cleaning the area by getting all the old silicone off very well then using alcohol or mineral spirits to clean any grease or oil off the surface, then put the silicone UNDER the screws. If you’ve ever tried to remove ANYTHING with silicone under it, you would know, this will work!
Good stuff Chad! I knew I could never find a bracket later so I left it on the ap as it lays in our comm closet space. And our bed needs work so this is a great motivator to tear it down and see what we can do to reduce some annoying noises.
Knowing that you have the suspension upgrades on the RV,I'm a bit surprised that it's giving you the earthquake ride that's causing it to shake rattle and roll ? Maybe the dryer and washer needs a separation shelf between them ? The screws are really making a mess of the thin tin machine cabinets and there is the possibility that the screws will rip thins apart . Foam packing could be used and higher up to support the dryer and reduce the falling off the bottom machine effect ! Obviously the manufacturer doesn't know how their RVs react in the real world . I hope this isn't an admission that you are taking your rig off the highway ?
I know everyone complains about the roads here but after traveling in parts of Asia and Africa you get a deep appreciation for a legit road system. I mean we complain about traffic but you’ve never seen traffic until you go to a big city in India….yikes!
I wonder if you also added some foam (pool noodle?) on the sides of the washer and dryer if that would resist some of the movement and help the screws?
I understand using the cabled access point, but have you ever tried a mesh network set of access points? We are using a set at a log cabin and they are working great.
I would only use mesh when I can't get ethernet to the access point. The only difference between a mesh and a wired AP is the way they connect to the network. A mesh connection needs to use the radio for serving clients and communicating upstream to the router, constantly balancing the two (usually on one radio). A wired connection eliminates that upstream radio component. Any time you can eliminate a wireless segment, overall connectivity benefits. But, sometimes a mesh is the only practical way to extend a wireless network.
You can get much heavier piano hinges from McMaster Carr. As most things Grand Design does that bed platform looks pretty half assed. Our Flagstaff has a platform framed in aluminum, covered in plywood.
You talk about travel vibrations, yet you already have the better ride of independent suspension to lessen vibrations ( I recall the upgrade video onnthe old 395). I can just imagine screws coming loose for us with factory leaf spring suspensions.
Why don't the RV manufacturers just make a deal with the good mattress manufacturers and give you a gift card with the company so you can just order what you might want. Then the fake 4" foam pad can just be replaced when you new mattress ships. that way you would not feel that ripped off when you pay 50,000+ for your RV and get a $10 piece of foam...
Definitely heard of " enough meat." After 45 years aircraft mechanic, 70 years of working on everything that rolls, floats, flies and building and rebuilding houses, yes sir, I've definitely heard that term. Only thing I would've offered was put the screws in you brackets in "wet" with a little rtv on threads and in the holes. What you did will probably last forever. Its a shame that you have to do those repairs, but a stick and brick has problems as well. And a house doesn't go through near what an rv goes through, unless it goes through a tornado. Y'all stay safe out there on your travels.
I've had THE EXACT SAME problems and found that, once I was set with how something would be (forever) I would set the screw with JB Weld. I have not had anything come apart that is now permanent. How will it handle loads over time? I will let you know, but for 2 years already - those screws have all not budged. *Edit*: For those hinges, I used plumbing strap behind the wood (same as washers) but it distributes across the entire strap. It made mounting a desk and workbench under my Murphy Bed more rigid. Haven't had a problem since I installed it over 2 years ago.
You can buy a myriad of continuous/piano hinges from McMaster-Carr with more than wide enough leaves. No better way to distribute the loading! I rebuilt our platform to handle a California King-sized Purple Hybrid and my 6'-5", 292# self. Due to my wife's petite stature, I ditched the struts and installed linear actuators. Push of a button and the bed lifts and second push it closes. 12VDC units that are off-the-shelf items. Be advised that you may have issue with the strut mounts with the extra heavy duty struts. They may deform the light duty brackets or cause the screws to tear out.
On your washer/dryer plates, use of external tooth lockwashers under the head of the sheet metal screws is appropriate.
Forgive me, half a century as a practicing engineer. 😁
Actuators! Nice! 👊🏼 👍🏼
If your strut connectors on the lid side pull out (mine did)--replacing screws with through bolts with washers on top is the solution.
No issues (yet) with the strut connections. 👍🏼
Just a suggestion. I added a piece of carpet to the plywood under the mattress. Every time I flipped the mattress I found I had to remove a lot of splinters from the mattress due to the plywood. The carpet solved that problem. Oh, and I got the carpet free from a local carpet company. Asked them if they had any scrap pieces of carpet and they did.
Bed project is complete. I just reinforced the existing hinges with a 1x4 under the plywood. Didn't have time to go buy new hinges. Lets see if it lasts. It works great now. I would have to lift the bed and then hold it up with my back while my wife got stuff out or put stuff in. So, this is so much better!
We went to Lowe’s and got foam insulation pieces for air conditioners and put them around our washer /dryer combo to keep it from moving! 3-1/2-ft x 2-1/4-in Gray A/C Foam Air
Conditioner Weatherstrip
Do you think the cabinets are strong enough to withstand the machines bouncing about ?
Another fail for the RV manufacturing sector and doubt about their research and development process ,a case of ,oh there's an opening let's chuck things in there and hope for the best .
You wouldn't accept a vehicle if the battery fell out or the windows rattled out ,so why accept RV failures
When I was young and a crazy hippie living in a schoolie I used strap gate hinges. Our Winnebago had piano hinges. Those go on uprights - where the folding key cover goes. I grew up with a parlor grand and it had real hinges. I’m keeping the mattress that came on the Brinkley. I love that the foot end is curved. Since it doesn’t hurt my back it’s staying.
The hinges are a great idea. However, if you are concerned even a little bit about them pulling out, may i recommend taking a little time to pull the screws out and put a little wood glue in each hole. it may help the screws from pulling back out in any situation that you had mentioned in the video.
Maybe consider replacing the outboard hinge screws on the bed platform with #8 or #10 thru bolts with washers and lock nuts. Would give you plenty of holding strength for the long term without relying on the bite of a wood screw.
Try a piano hinge, some people call them a continuous hinge. Amazon even has them 3“ x 36“ two of them being 72 inches will solve your issue. I’ve used them before many times actually.
Another fantastic video. A wealth of information. Thank you both for everything you do for us, RV folks🇺🇸❤️🙏
Yes on "meat" for the threads to grab hold. "This is me flipping the mattress."
If you were able to forsee every failure before it happened, you'd be so rich you'd know Warren Buffet.
I got off on the Interstates. I have found there are too many potholes. I travel US Hwys and State, county route’s, they bring me thru towns I never would have seen, and I stop in the local museums, or interesting parts of the town. Surprisingly, we get some good eats in town!
Nice video. Appreciate the update on the bed. My wife just complained this past weekend that she can't pick it up with the heavier mattress now. The bed is my next project after I finish the compression latches on the propane doors and especially the front door with thousands of dollars' worth of solar equipment and batteries in it. They give us two thumb twists and a terrible little lock up there. Still deciding on three lockable compression locks or two on the edges with a slam latch in the middle
Silicone / RTV would anchor the washer and dryer without any screws. Finding the right amount to apply, takes some practice. (Coat the metal straps, hold in place till silicone sets). But; your silicone method makes disassembly much easier / cleaner / better, if ever necessary. Outstanding vid., thanks again.
You installed the struts up side down. The thick side ALWAYS goes up. It keeps the thin side lubricated.
Good point! 👍🏼
@@ChangingLanesLove your channel!
The world is an imperfect place sir. Screws fall out all the time............Sorry, that movie quote came to mind..🤣
Very good idea to add the “meat” thickness. You may be the Arby’s king of RV’s! We have the meat!
As I live full-time in a diesel pusher motorhome that is built very well. Our roads do totally suck.
We just picked up a new Rockwood 2720IK from Indiana and it came with a shockingly comfortable mattress.
The 2506s we are selling tomorrow came with a mattress made of cardboard 😅
Absolutely heard of the phrase got enough meat. 12 years in the Marine Corps Air Wing we used that frequently. nice jobs. hope it all works well for you guys. Thanks for another great video. Hope you 2 have continued safe travels.
Yea. I guess it can apply to threads also.
Great re-engineering of your previous repairs Chad - Thanks! - Cheers!
I put 150 pound struts and was afraid they were going to be too strong. You make feel better.
I agree with you on the stock RV mattresses just being a placeholder, and that's fine. I don't want an RV manufacturer putting a $1k mattress in my unit, charging me for it, and then I have to replace it with one I like. We've had residential Sealy Posturpedic mattresses in our fifth wheel for over a year of full-time use, and we LOVE them! They are pretty heavy though. Our queen size is about 100 lbs.
Chad i love your how to videos they are very informative. Thanks for sharing
We replaced our bed storage hinges with full width piano hinges the first month we had our RV due to hinge issues. Ace hardware had piano hinges that had a wider hinge area.
Ace has the best selection for stuff like that! 👍🏼
Funny, I have the same problem with the washer and dryer! I will be fixing it for the second time now but will use silicone and hope the new fix last longer.😁
Sure “travel broke the bed”…..👍😝😜
I like this kind of video. Good way to share ideas...
Chad-Check out Vix drill bits if you ever need to drill in the center of the holes in a hinge. Can be used for other purposes as well.😎
#1 saying at our house..."I'm going to Lowes."
LOL! Yep!!!
Great content and detailed protocol! Thank you Sir for sharing your knowledge and skillset.
Chad, if the screws don't hold on the washer dryer, try double sided tape on the bracket along with the screws. The tape will eliminate the vibration between the bracket and the washer/dryer and keep things snug.
To add to this idea, what about adding locktite to screw threads? I used to use it on my kids hockey helmet screws. It may work for this application.
Endless construction on all of the highways! You shared great tips for various projects - thank you!
One other tip, anytime you need to line up hinges, put a straight edge along one side long enough to span all the hinges. Place the hinges edges to the straight edge.
Great handy man keep up the great work😊
If the dryer fix doesn’t work a better option might be to use rivnuts instead of plain rivets…..that way if you need to detach you can just unscrew the bolt from the rivnut.
Since it's so easy to open now, what about adding an eye hook in the front. Seems it would come open if you hit a good bump(s). We went though Indiana and those roads are extremely rough. EXCELLENT Video! Thanks
There's another trick that can be done to the straps on the washer and dryer units - before the straps are put on, insert a thin piece of auto trim self adhesive tape (think the 3m foam stuff but it's thinner and wicked strong). Then put the screws through and into the sides. The tape will help give another level of adhesion to the strap screws. To make assembly much easier, remove the protective tape and put a piece of folded parchment paper in it's place that you can pull out (much easier than the original tape ever comes out). I've done this fix to a few brackets in my 30' DP that are still holding strong 6 years later.
Chad, if the silicone does not hold those screws in try some 3m 5200 Marine sealant. Its a lot tougher then standard silicone. I used it to secure lots of screws that would back out on my bass boat when silicone would not. A dab on the threads will do it. The pounding and vibrations that a boat goes thru in rough water make our roads looks like smooth sailing......
We had the same thing happen to us in our Solitude 375-Res. Hubby did pretty much the same thing as you. Works so much better now.
Chad, it’s I 80 between Indiana state line and Joliet, IL
It will break your suspension.
I drive around it.
It takes an extra 1 hour but worth it.
Thanks for the video! And if you think the roads in USA are bad well do not cross the border and come visit us in Quebec because I just spend 3 weeks in Maryland, Pennsylvania and New York and we were thinking we were in heaven compare to here! 😜🤪 stay safe and thanks again!👍
Fantastic!
You might want to consider rivnut inserts to help prevent screws from loosening. Essentially, one drills a hole large enough to accept the appropriate RIVNUT, the RIVNUT is installed using the proper tool. Put a screw in and tighten it down. A little silicone might help keep it from unscrewing.
The trouble is, I have to pull the whole stack out to get room on the side for that...
Chad, for the W/D, you can always use both sheet metal screws and rivets at the same time. Another solution to keep in your book of ideas is a riv nut tool. Lots of grills and such use these. It is used to put in a threaded insert. Much like the rivet, this tool expands the threaded insert. Then, take your bolts, put some blue gel thread locker on and you are good to go. If you use blue, you can break it loose if you need to remove. Red, forget it! Use gel so it stays put and doesn't run down your hands or W/D!Limited-time deal: TOLRET Rivet Nut Tool Rivet Nut Kit, Rivnut Tool Kit with 10 Metric and SAE Mandrels, 100 Pcs Rivet Nuts Assortment Kit, Professional Ratchet Nutsert Tool Kit with Rugged Carrying Case, TR21 a.co/d/7X8vlHL
I used RV door straps to tie down the bed as the original is so light the bed flies up during driving.
Great info as always
The hinges should be unloaded when the bed is down. Requires some geometry and careful calculations.
I just went through this upgrading to the 130 lb struts. They went on easy but when I went to close it everything fell apart under the pressure. Had to reinforce all of the strut holders and hinges. I was a little pissed it turned into more of a project at the time but I do enjoy modifying stuff on my rv to make it better. Anyway it just happened last week and following y'all I clicked on this video and had a good laugh knowing I wasn't the only one who dealt with this. I keep finding and modifying areas where the rv manufacturers cut costs using cheap shit😂 Thanks for the great content as always!
It’s unreal how many things go wrong or break due to the road conditions…….we have the 397th and even the molding came off 😮
Good for you man...that's some quality troubleshooting and problem solving.
I have a Montana High Country and had to pull the bed frame out, rebuild it and add metal brackets and cross beams at a campground! - Light weight and RVs doesn’t always work. And no we are not overweight. The bed frame supports basically broke the frame just opening and closing it!
If the silicone OVER the screws doesn’t work, consider cleaning the area by getting all the old silicone off very well then using alcohol or mineral spirits to clean any grease or oil off the surface, then put the silicone UNDER the screws. If you’ve ever tried to remove ANYTHING with silicone under it, you would know, this will work!
Good stuff Chad! I knew I could never find a bracket later so I left it on the ap as it lays in our comm closet space. And our bed needs work so this is a great motivator to tear it down and see what we can do to reduce some annoying noises.
Might want a another 1x4 across where the struts attach to the plywood.
Love a simpler project every now and then.
Knowing that you have the suspension upgrades on the RV,I'm a bit surprised that it's giving you the earthquake ride that's causing it to shake rattle and roll ?
Maybe the dryer and washer needs a separation shelf between them ?
The screws are really making a mess of the thin tin machine cabinets and there is the possibility that the screws will rip thins apart .
Foam packing could be used and higher up to support the dryer and reduce the falling off the bottom machine effect !
Obviously the manufacturer doesn't know how their RVs react in the real world .
I hope this isn't an admission that you are taking your rig off the highway ?
Good job and good job on explaining the installation, hope you didn't get any glue on your shoes and clothes under your bed ???
Great video, Chad!
Hey, Dean! 👋🏼
I know everyone complains about the roads here but after traveling in parts of Asia and Africa you get a deep appreciation for a legit road system. I mean we complain about traffic but you’ve never seen traffic until you go to a big city in India….yikes!
I wonder if you also added some foam (pool noodle?) on the sides of the washer and dryer if that would resist some of the movement and help the screws?
I did exactly the same mistake on the bed only started with 150 and ripped the bed apart oops
How about a strap around washing machine!
Chad did you consider a backing plate for the strut mounts on platform? That might be your next weak point.
I understand using the cabled access point, but have you ever tried a mesh network set of access points? We are using a set at a log cabin and they are working great.
I would only use mesh when I can't get ethernet to the access point. The only difference between a mesh and a wired AP is the way they connect to the network. A mesh connection needs to use the radio for serving clients and communicating upstream to the router, constantly balancing the two (usually on one radio). A wired connection eliminates that upstream radio component. Any time you can eliminate a wireless segment, overall connectivity benefits. But, sometimes a mesh is the only practical way to extend a wireless network.
Meat yes
You can get much heavier piano hinges from McMaster Carr. As most things Grand Design does that bed platform looks pretty half assed. Our Flagstaff has a platform framed in aluminum, covered in plywood.
You talk about travel vibrations, yet you already have the better ride of independent suspension to lessen vibrations ( I recall the upgrade video onnthe old 395). I can just imagine screws coming loose for us with factory leaf spring suspensions.
It sure seems like the roads have gotten worse in the last few years... Or maybe I'm just older and more sensitive..
plastic wall anchors on your dryer
Road broke the bed... suuuurrreee.... ;)
Why don't the RV manufacturers just make a deal with the good mattress manufacturers and give you a gift card with the company so you can just order what you might want. Then the fake 4" foam pad can just be replaced when you new mattress ships. that way you would not feel that ripped off when you pay 50,000+ for your RV and get a $10 piece of foam...
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Thread locker? Comes in different strengths.
Yes.. but that's for threads. This is just sheet metal. Nothing for the thread locker to grip.
True although I used it on my rig about 5 months ago on thin aluminum and so far so good. Fingers crossed.
I would like to meet you one day if you are in San diego area Sweetwater summit campground is 33 a night for full hook up and Quiet place
Well I guess we are some of the fortunate few. In our Fuzion 420 our stock mattress has been outstanding. ❤🎉
The piano hinge is called that because, as you said, they’re used on pianos to support the weight of the lid.
What makes a mattress an RV mattress? The dimensions? Would that mattress work in a house bed just as well?
Exactly. RV's have some strange bed dimensions that are not standard.
Try alian tape
When are you available to come fix our RV here in Georgia?
He will have to replace the landing next.. . . Trailer was bouncing to much
How long are your bed struts?
Don’t you feel the big hinges in the middle of the bed when you are in the bed?
Not at all.
lol yes the hinges need some meat 🥩
Why do you just have plywood under your mattress?? Is it to save weight? We have a proper RV bed frame with a metal frame and slats.
That's very unusual to have a metal platform. Frame, maybe, but a metal platform (the flat part) would add a ton of weight.
I couldn’t find a link to the struts.
Oops! 😊 Here you go: New (150lb) Struts: gear.changinglanesrv.com/product/rv-bed-heavy-duty-gas-struts/
@@ChangingLanes TYVM.
Definitely heard of " enough meat."
After 45 years aircraft mechanic, 70 years of working on everything that rolls, floats, flies and building and rebuilding houses, yes sir, I've definitely heard that term.
Only thing I would've offered was put the screws in you brackets in "wet" with a little rtv on threads and in the holes. What you did will probably last forever.
Its a shame that you have to do those repairs, but a stick and brick has problems as well. And a house doesn't go through near what an rv goes through, unless it goes through a tornado.
Y'all stay safe out there on your travels.
I've had THE EXACT SAME problems and found that, once I was set with how something would be (forever) I would set the screw with JB Weld. I have not had anything come apart that is now permanent. How will it handle loads over time? I will let you know, but for 2 years already - those screws have all not budged.
*Edit*: For those hinges, I used plumbing strap behind the wood (same as washers) but it distributes across the entire strap. It made mounting a desk and workbench under my Murphy Bed more rigid. Haven't had a problem since I installed it over 2 years ago.