Ice Spice Is A Product Not An Artist
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- After dropping her newest project Y2k to some troubling reviews from the people there are a lot of things about Ice Spice that are up for questioning. #rap #hiphop #icespice
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Who the hell expected more from Ice Spice.
The record label
@@JohnGalt916 well even the mute, deaf and blind could have told them whatever they were planning was bullshit you cannot develop a one hit wonder into something more bro there are more talented artists that could have been pushed. Ice Spice was supposed to be just a get rich quick scheme
The only thing I care about Ice Spice is her butt. The music...what music?
I know ur asking a legitimate question but me seeing this comment made me lmao
I was asking for more, but not expecting it 😂
It may sound harsh but I'm very happy her project flopped. I don't want the music industry to keep pushing more of these type of "artists" with zero depth in their music or love for the art.
i completely agree with you, and this is an excellent point
fully agree, her album feels like a spit in the face icl. I wish she was more intentional and ACC gaf about her artistry rather than the "bag"
oh so like 99% of rappers?
That’s not gonna happen, have you ever watched the movie “get rich or die trying”? There’s a scene when 50 cent’s character states how he doesn’t care if all a fiend got is nickel or pennies he’ll take them (another drug dealer slapped the coins out of a fiend’s hand stating he don’t take coins)… that’s the type of people running the music industry. They do not care if it “flopped” if they found a way to return on their investment of that artist through another channel (brand deals, merch etc) and were able to profit? The only way to make it stop is to make sure they lose money, you’d have to unsubscribe in every aspect to make sure not a single dime become profit
I AGREE! I felt bad cause I felt like a hater but it’s not the artist themselves, it’s the agendas they agree to push. If it’s bad, I just naturally just hope people pay it no mind. Im annoyed with 90% of acts in the music world today and that’s just not normal. Like how is almost every artist annoying? Like it’s insane.
Ice isn't an artist who creates from her soul. She has no actual "passion" to create art. She doesn't live and breathe to create art...that's her issue. When you lack passion and drive to creatively pull from your soul, you create things that lack genuine energy and what you produce comes off as disingenuous. That's Ice Spice in a nutshell.
Facts omg
well said
Very true. And, unfortunately, she isn't the only one like that.
shes also talentless too so theres that
So real
The thing that puts me off from Ice Spice type of musicians is that there is nowhere to go after the first round of fame. She's not going to write about anything profound or important. She's going to stick to what got her the initial attention
All aesthetics, no substance, like an empty Pringle’s can
@@thefitpackllc I wouldn't say empty. I'd say that what you hear is what you get. Once you hear her once, you won't have to listen to other songs
@@apparentlylivin That’s fair enough
the difference between a shooting star & a rising star
she can’t even write for real.
Kendrick dropped a summer anthem that not only can get a function jumping, but having people analyzing every single bar as well as the message imagery from the music video. These artists don’t have an excuse to drop wack lyrical content AND wack party music.
Facts
Analyse what exacty wop wop wop wop🤡
@@aratrikdatta8346oh you haven’t been on Twitter or IG huh 😂
@@aratrikdatta8346analyze Kendrick coming up with 186 ways to say he hates Drake and it’s amazing
only reason that blow up because of pedo lyrics
The only rappers I really hate on is Ice Spice & Sexyy Redd. Imo, they deserve it. They deliberately try as hard as they can to not try at all, & it shows. They are the only artists I can think of who really did not earn their success. Also at Kai cenat stream Ice spice was asked to freestyle and she started twerking, i think thats says a lot what an "artist" she is. That’s just my opinion.
summed it up perfectly. NTM her biting the hand that fed her was just...yikes. The beats carry her songs and majority of them sound the same
Sexyy Redd should not be grouped with ice spice at all she is wayyy more authentic
u sound like an a1 broke dck rider. hating on ppl for getting money and being proud of it is crazy work
literally no reason to bring sexyy red into this other than her being a woman too. she’s just gucci mane for women really. and ice spice does try, she’s a pretty good performer and raps almost every word on stage which 99% of rappers CANT DO, or WONT because they don’t give a shit. maybe think deeper about why you don’t like them
at least sexy is original and got her own lil flow the ghetto hoes love it
Ice spice needs to rebrand as a "Influencer" who makes music on occasion. That's the vibe she gives off. She's not mainstream and shes not even a good industry plant. She's pretty and fun to look at. She'll make a KILLING making RUclips videos.
she started off as IG influencer and model thats actually where whe got scouted. doubt shell go back to that
ice spice is so bad at making music its just a sad place for the industry that shes famous at all
She's light-skinned that's why she's famous
@@lordjoyousit’s not just that, it’s her body type that really did it
@@alkahinat4558 her body type and the fact that mainstream music is colorist
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Ok, so Ice Spice said in a recent interview her dream was to be famous, and it shows… If the goal is fame, don’t expect the music to have any integrity. Hence she’s lazy with it. She can’t be bothered & possibly doesn’t have the talent to write a decent song. Music is the vehicle not the goal. To me she’s content with being a grandiose version of the “popular girl” in high school.
This!!!!
Her deluxe EP was longer than her debut album. That should say a lot about her "career"
The problem with these type of artist is, they become so commercially viable that they end up being able to sell everything but the music we became aware of them for. Prime example Saweetie.
facts
filler on a 20 minute album is hilarious, she might actually be washed
She said “call me ms poopy ima need a diaper”. What else needs to be said?
Ik all the poo lyrics but did she actually say that
@@andrewmacmillan8024I forgot what it was on buy it was "I'm ms poopy like I need a diaper and she said that shit with conviction
I think the main reason people don’t really like ice spice is because it’s very obvious she mainly got famous is because of her looks. Not that that’s not important but when that’s all you have going for u; it gets old. Really it’s Riot entertainment trying to push her down our throats and at this point people are just tired of being manipulated by labels like this
Is anyone really surprised she flopped? Of course her album was only 23 mins, she dont got nothing to say.
There are a lot of projects under 30 minutes that are fantastic, but this isn't one of them. 23 minutes is more of an EP, really.
Thank you for not being sexist as fuck about it too 😭 all these points are so fuckkng valid . I havent heard as many people talk about this album in a constructive way really. And this was it . Thank you lol
“i’m not a regular artist” - ice spice
Which is a funny thing to say considering how much she mentions poop
Fact she not regular cause her music straight garbage🔥🔥🔥
Industry plant confirmed
"I'm not an artist" should be the quote lol
She pretty bad for having downs tho
Honestly this is just how I personally feel on it but I lowkey feel bad for her. Like I’ve seen the videos of her on stage singing and twerking and just looking so dead in the eyes like she don’t even want to be there at all. I feel like she’s only doing this because she blew up and it’s making her good money so that’s what she’s “supposed to do” even if it doesn’t make her happy. And making her whole brand her body being a baddie and silly music because that’s what she was oh so praised for, but then she’s also so harshly critiqued at the same time. I imagine the people surrounding her just encourage this too, especially if they’re getting pieces of the pie. I just hope she can find something that actually makes her happy and just do what SHE wants not what everyone tells her to do.
My favorite part is when Ice Spice says “It’s Poopin’ Time” and pooped all over our eardrums!
I’m confused how Pitchfork gave this trash a 7.6..!
She paid them prolly
💵 💵 💵
Same thing with movies. The company gets paid for access. You don't get access (interviews) by trashing the labels prize pony.
That better be out of 20 cuz what?!
@@kiarahall6670out of 1 BILLION
She’s another non-album artist who’s job is to look good and sell products. As long as she looks good she will sell any and everything and people will shit on the music but it won’t matter she’s a content creator and walking advertisement not an artist
That is one way to sum it up.
You're wring about none album. She just released a album and a ep before that.
2 examples of none album artist are pp cocaine and bad baby and they made way better music than ice spice
@@lordjoyous i don’t mean doesn’t make albums i mean the failure or success of her albums won’t dictate her career
@Urshonesty there’s probably a 1000 girls that look like her from new york alone
Shes a meme that got a record deal
congrats on 30k definitely deserved
You nailed the fact that even after an EP and an album, we don't know who Ice Spice is. When you listen to the music made by fellow female rappers, like Doja, Megan, JT, Doechii, Sexyy Red, etc, regardless of quality, you know who they are through their songs. But we still don't know who Ice Spice is other than her being a baddie and (insert bad poop bar here). The lack of personality is what sets her apart and not in a good way. I'm not saying that you need to have the biggest and most eccentric personality to be a good artist, but it's a big factor that might help music that's not as good otherwise.
The fact that you took her serious from the first song is crazy man. You really goin in like you expected greatness from this woman 😂
Exactly 😂 like what y’all expect??
@@blackdateline1996 right ain't no way someone out there thought that this album would be lit 🙏🏿
not greatness, but the bare minimum. munch was kind of catchy
Finally somebody said it
Yea everybody pretty much been saying her time is up
No, that’s what’s corny about music culture currently and y’all. this is pick and choose. She’s not the first artist to literally be this. Drake is a product. Cardi B is a product. Nicki Minaj became a product. so many of them are that it’s just that we understand that her music is garbage which doesn’t make sense cause it always was. So now she gets the label of being product ? y’all are corny. The artist really should start calling fans out for this the fake love is so pathetic.
@@floatinrocktubetalk3768first of all at least cardi and nicki have talent and aren’t industry plants,and u can not be talking about corny u listen to ice spice
and u liked ur own comment.
@@floatinrocktubetalk3768yap yap yap
@@swtxthankunext_girlsheesh u cooked em
Thanks for saying this. If Ice Spice is ok then AI rappers are ok.
" if AI rappers are okay then AI rappers are okay. " 😂😂
@@user-vh5kp3jw9s😂😂😂
How can an industry plant get credit for what the industry did for her???? They put their product in those rooms and made moves for her. She’s not an artist. She’s an IRL Bot
i love how your commentary is not only so intelligently spoken but also respectful. your opinions add more to the conversation instead of just repeating what everybodys saying and i appreciate that. you also express yourself really well
cant wait to see more videos from you, your channel is gonna blow up for sure 🙌
Saying "its not completely garbage" is a stretch pay...😂😂😂 this is easily one of the worst albums of this year 🚮🚮🚮
Yeah...just stick to singles Ice. Everybody isnt an album artist and thats okay. Everything isnt for everybody.
Just stick to feeding the algorithms bops and get that money!
Tell her to stay out of the Stu I’m tired of mfs promoting non talented artists 😩😩
she'd be perfect in a lane like cardi b, releasing singles to stay relevant, but otherwise being rich and getting attention. those are the only two qualities i think those two care about.
@@hyde1893before cardi started rapping she was known for being funny and her personality that’s why people liked her and that’s why she relevant now. Spice ain’t really known for nun and there’s nothing interesting about her.
@hyde1893 not to mention Cardi B still made a decent, if not GREAT, first album. She's proven herself already
@@Rieky22uh I mean dat not her fault tell that to the label executives and the simps
I’m an old head. I love Tupac, Biggie, Wu Tang, Nas etc…
Hearing “artists” like Ice Spice in comparison to any of those artists I mentioned makes it unlistenable to me. The gap in talent and creativity is almost laughable. She’s a one trick pony. She uses the same mono tone choppy type of flow on every track and has nothing meaningful to say ever. Vapid is the best word to describe her, and most hip hop artists of today honestly. I know I’m the old man yelling at clouds, but it truly is a shame what has become of hip hop.
valid fucking comment🔥
I learned a new word 🤔 thanks "vapid"
I think its the fact that she's never rapped before (when she was growing up or even in high school) nor did she care about being an artist and the art of expressing yourself. She didn't make any music until she met Riot in college, who thought she could make it. Basically, she's dependent on him and even if she's not an industry plant, she's Riot's plant. Notice how the beats are great but she sounds shit? However, he knows that her looks will help his music reach mass audiences. It isn't about passion, it's about money
That’s why I feel like the music producers matters more than the artists these days because like you just said his beats are fire, but she don’t sound great in them because it really don’t matter. I don’t think her fans are listening to her music just for her now, they listening to it because of the beat and how hard the beat is just look it up cause the beat is the one that carrying the artist these days 🤷🏾♂️💯
How is your EP better than your debut album!? Make it make sense..
The Like ep objectively is better 😂
shes a glorified bronx saweetie
saweetie probably could spit compared to this, ice spice is just a figure
@@Jamellii yeah I agree
fr imo saweetie is better than p much most of the songs ive heard from IS. The difference between them,from what ive heard in their songs,saweetie has lyrics that flow well,not just in rhymes but with her voice too,theyre not just catchy and stay in your head. They stay in your head because it sounds nice and has good lyrics,not just because the beat is memorable.
Again,all of this is just my opinion.
@@capybara2244why you say her lyrics though you mean da ghost writer lyrics??
Finally !!!!!!!!! 😮 lets be honest its not just her..... 🤔
Side note 23 minutes is crazy work wtf is that 😂😂😂
That’s the part that’s corny about this discussion and anybody praising the uploader in the comments. This isn’t a new concept. It’s just corny and pathetic because people decide to only come up with these things when it’s low hanging fruit. Ice spice is always dog shit is nothing it’s obvious. Other artists were literally to them instead of having a discussion about it so don’t praise anybody or yourself if you believe this you’re corny.
The length doesn't matter because look at some rap songs that album was 24 minutes and the album is amazing
I think that especially because Ice was already falling off and people were saying she was lazy with her music the 23 minute debut album (arguably her most important project) just proves the claims
Debut albums imo should not be that short though
@@Bmichelle41shaking ass is all she's good at
2:51 filler on a 23 minute album is pathetic, respectfully.
No need to be respectful that’s very honest and true
Bring back one hit wonders. This just shows how not everyone should be propped up and milked after one or two good songs.
Half way thru watching this I have to stop and say I agree with everything you’re saying especially at 8:00mins. I’m come back to this comment when I’m finished but you are speaking facts 😭😭 I used to really like ice and her cute girly pop music but that new album scared me 😭
Now that I’ve finished the video, I will say I also can respect a Sexyy Red, even though her music is not my favorite, I can see she tries more and puts actual art behind the music with Ice Spice. There was never art behind it. It was just a cute girl with cute music and a machine behind her to push that to the masses. Which leads me into saying I can see how she’s a product to the industry however, that’s just a nice way of saying she’s an industry plant, at the end of the day that’s what she is. And it’s what most artist that blow up out of nowhere are, until they can break out of that bubble and show more art, and a story of who they are and the type of person. And if this is her trying, and actually showing the type of person she is, I don’t think the highest amount of marketing could save her after this. I’m also now more convinced that her beginning songs definitely had some help writing because there was a lot more substance even though it was fun music at the same time. If she decided to start writing everything by herself, that could be the problem now. She’s also under one of the biggest labels that is owned by a billionaire, producer riot is the son of a DJ at a New York radio station, his mom has connections behind the industry, but she is anonymous. so I spice definitely had a lot of help to get to where she is. Without being signed and she would’ve just been popular in New York.
calling Sexxy Redd an artist is absolute blasphemy and definitely disrespectful.💀💀💀💀💀💀
“Relatable to the average girl “😂….
She was possibly modeling on IG since thats all she's done over the past years.
i thought she was a model who occasionally sang lol
2:05 ice spice is having a battle with making the same “song” over and over again
Spice actually had good songs before she blew up but y2k was awwwwful
She needs to stay out the Stu and be a model or something not everybody can be an artist and that’s fine.
The music is profitable enough so there's no need to stop doing music
@@lordjoyous her music isn’t that good to be profitable in the long haul just as of right now she don’t got that staying power her being a model ,or an actress just a brand in general is her lane not music.
everyone hates on these rappers etc without remembering they're signed on a CONTRACT. they can't just dip.
Why you should make bangers. If not you're losing money.
@@Crimsonchado maybe you should tell the record label that not me
8:16 for me this scene describes Ice Spice and modern hip hop. No one is experiencing the moment. Everyone is taking a video to post later. I don’t like it😢😢
Ice spice is definitely a industry plant
Fax
I don't think we'll ever see another female rapper of Azealia Banks' caliber
What about Nicki minaj 😊
Little Simz...
Missy Elliot
@@co1n_eater They are talking about newer artist
Every Blink would be so thankful for an album with at least 10 songs/23 minutes 😅
blackpink does not give a singular fuck about anyone
Feel so bad for the blinks, they starving y'all
This was a great insightful video. You’re super underrated.
lil pump 2 years into his career > Ice spice 2 years into her career (fight me)
@OfficialRayyJayy ong lil pump was actually interesting. cant believe ice spice got me reminiscing bout the lil pump supremacy 💀
@@MMCLLC7nbs i agree but its happend before, we did the same with Soulja Boy & Waka Flocka
@@user-vh5kp3jw9ssocial media wasn’t big when soulja and waka came out, they would probably be legends in this era
@@queenofnyc5584 no i was replying to MMCLLC7 about how one rappers lackluster career made us all rethink our opinions on a previous lackluster rappers career, with or without internet
@@user-vh5kp3jw9ssoulja had a decent underground run w ocean gang and based god ngl
y’all think the music industry is an art industry when it’s not. It’s an entertainment industry. the actual music matters less
They put Ice Spice on that K-pop ‘album’ marketing 💀😭
SUBSCRIBED. U have a super non biased but also healthy perspective on this music shit and I rock with that
Sexxy Red about to have a better debut album....lmao that should've been impossible considering how much industry help Spice is getting.
I guess the industry still hasn't figured out the secret sauce on why the Cardi experiment worked the 1st time....
cardi b work because she was known way before the music
I’m just surprised people are just now finding this out. Even from the first time I seen her in “munch” it was clear that’s all that was required.
I know this is an out of context comparison, and quite an unfair one if I might add, compare her to someone like Nicki Minaj, both artists do use their bodies as a selling point on occasion, but Nicki still has MC skills to back her up if she’s ever doubted like Ice Spice is now. Even back when Nicki first debuted she shown talent. Ice spice is the gimmick without any talent to back her up.
And I say this without trying to be disrespectful or hateful towards her.
10 tracks at 23 mins… that’s legit an average of 2 mins and 15 seconds for each song. Thank god she didn’t exist during the CD and Physical record era or people would be mad mad.
One hit wonders like this will come and go thanks to social media. We need to stop lookin at these artists like they’re going to consistently deliver. It’s hard for an artist to consistently deliver good stuff, hell I’ll bet even Beyonces cutting room floor probably has albums worth of music. Difference is that Bey is from that era where you had to sell a whole album to be famous while Ice just needs one bop a year and she fine
Some punk records are like that, but at least it's 23 minutes of solid music and 2:15 minute songs that have something to say.
You get it man, those songs came from an era where it mattered cause it wasn’t cheap to produce. You couldn’t waste vinyl on trash and studios/studio time wasn’t as easily available. You had to plan out and really put heart into it cause if it didn’t sell you most likely weren’t gonna get the money together to get the people together to make another one happen
Honestly she ruined Boys a Liar but I have to thank her for helping me discover Pink Pantheress
the problem with the album isnt the length its the quality. How is your ep from last year better than your debut album? the reason why the length doesn't matter is because you have to understand that she makes drill/jersey club music and in these subgenres the songs arent very long they typically range from 1:40-2:30.
Remember when we all had those ice spice pfp cults? Yea.
y'all did that??
I did that back then and it was so cringe to think about now.
@@hyde1893 not me but I remember everyone on TikTok had them 💀
You may say "it's ambitious" to put yourself in the conversation as a content creator but you have WAY more influence in my world than Ice Spice does. And I am not an Ice Spice hater. She just doesn't have any content..
"it exists" 🤣🤣🤣
I feel like with Ice spice their using the Rihanna formula where they take a pretty girl who isn't the most talented but can still make a hit give her an image then use singles/scandals to stay relevant but later down the line can show real artistry
I don't think it is a coincidence that most of the artists who HAVE been receiving praises recently are ones who have been in the industry for years.
It's like what you said about the painter banging their head on the door waiting for it to come down- these artists are the epitome of that, it is now finally coming down for them, and imo they all have long promising careers awaiting them.
I didn't even need to hear the words, you got a like just for being right in the title.
Watching the rest for the watch hours was just a bonus
6:40 I think lots of people like Ice Spice, hence the conversations, but I think what we are are really talking about and watching is our hope that the machine can maybe one day help the artist and not destroy them. Like it was as if we all hoped the product would be thought out so an artist could grow and we are disappointed to get the same old corporate wash
Fair assessment of the project, I like some of her songs and don’t disagree
she’s another drake in the making … industry plant
Drake actually made good music with substance in his career like weren’t you alive in 09 drake had everybody in a chokehold
I get that we don’t have a great opinion of Drake right now but come on. She’s never put out anything even remotely close to the quality of Drake’s projects.
You can’t really compare her to Drake the difference between her and Drake. I understand a lot of people don’t like him but the thing about Drake he knows how to make a hit record. He knows how to make classic albums, but Ice don’t know how to make a great album she don’t know how to make classic records. She just don’t got that at all & for you to try to compare her to Drake is kind of funny 😂💯
@@queenofnyc5584 fr bro 09-11 drake was a whole nother breed
agreed in theory you have been writing your first Album WHOLE LIFE which is why most artist slump is the sophmore album
Yesss I’ve been waiting for your review 🔥🔥 I knew it’d come
Hey Justice, u be giving us underground artists some advise low key here with your analysis
Screwly G debut project Murda Man finna be better than Ice Spice's project Y2K
Ice Spice and Sexyy are easily hatable
The thumbnail is insane 💀
I'm calling that she'll transition to acting within 8 months. She'll be announced as a secondary character in some romcom to test the waters and if thats okay she''ll star in a movie loosely based on her life.
When your album is much shorter than a punk album, that’s a problem if you’re not a punk artist. (Example I’m using here is Swingin’ Utters’ Five Lessons Learned album which is 38 minutes long with 15 tracks.) Punk is known for short songs. 2 minutes is an average length song in that genre. It works for them because it’s their brand. And that’s what making music/art is about. Making your own brand. Ice Spice is making products. All of the songs on her album sound a lot alike. I don’t expect them to all sound extremely different but they all sound like they could be the same song in my opinion at least. The beats sound almost identical and the lines are all basically the same. The whole album is one product when a debut album should be establishing your brand with future albums building onto that foundation. Her debut album is the music equivalent of “Same Face Syndrome” in art. While the art and music can be very good, it will eventually get old after a bit if the artist doesn’t branch out and try new things. You would just go “oh yep that’s the same face or the same song again.” I just wish Ice Spice would release truly new things instead of applying the same formula for every single track. As an artist and used to be musician myself, those are my personal thoughts on it.
Glorilla over Ice Spice all day 💪🏿
ice spice is like a season 1 starlight they are using her
i feel for artist who end up becoming "products" because you spend your whole life being regular just to make it and become famous but only for you to be the scapegoat of what an industry plant is as well as flopping. Your career takes such a crazy high just to drop at a crazy low
A 10 track, 23 minute long album in current year is embarrassing.
That’s the Craziest title I’ve seen out of em all😭💀
Im just sick of harlott rap. I miss when female rappers, even if spicy, could rap. Example lil kim could rap, foxy brown could rap, hell nikki can rap.ice spice i feel like her music is what happens when you write on your iphone and struggle to get to 2 minutos. She couldn't survive in the wu tang 2 hour album days.
(I'm not dissing these genres, but) Hip-Hop/Trap, Pop, Punk Rock, and EDM all have a really, really low technical barrier to entry. If you're attractive in some way, have a unique image or selling point, and can put together a basic tune in five minutes with a good producer, pretty much anyone can have a career in music if they blow up and then work hard(ish) at it. Ice Spice is just another product that has existed since the start of the music industry. You have legitimate artists working on their craft, making their art their life's work, and you have manufactured industry plants churning out product for short-term gains. Occasionally, an industry plant can transcend their manufactured roots to become a respected, genuinely talented artist by working hard to stay relevant, honing their raw talent, and building on it-but this is usually pretty rare, and not really a future I predict for a someone like an Ice Spice. She's go a cutesy look and big ass, but apart from that I'm not really seeing any real talent or potential for longevity. I could be wrong though, only time will tell, lol.
How starry promoted deli in the song that is a product for sure
Bro if you listened to that whole album… 🤦🏽♂️
The most annoying part is that she has all the resources to develop herself.
Honestly she could even get a few writers to help her build a better product.
She does none of that and instead relies on cheap controvery tactics to generate buzz.
But buzz doesnt matter if nobody is actually buying or streaming
ice spice can’t take constructive criticism and that will be her downfall. she needs to get into a dance studio or artist boot camp with teyanna taylor. she at LEAST needs to do something different because whatever this is is not working.
ADDITIONALLY, she has been mean spirited and manufactured fake beefs online, and it’s not a good look. last year her music was fun and cute. i thought she found her lane. now she just seems lazy. if she doesn’t care, then why should we?
her career mimics that of Saweetie. her music isn’t bad, but it’s not exceptional either. she makes “pretty b*tch music”. it’s not meant to push any creative boundaries. she might give you an 8-count dance routine OCCASIONALLY in her performances. she’s pretty, marketable, and somehow well-connected. so i think, in ice spice’s case, she just wants to be an influencer/socialite that makes music sometimes.
this is such a well made video, you brought up so many good points
Miss poopie
Also, it was one if the shortest, but most repetitive albums i have listened to. I still love shit fart tho 😂
When I heard “Oh Shhh” being the second song to use the same production of “In Ha Mood”, I already got the gist of the album :/
Wild title😂
Ice Spice = female Jack Harlow
jack harlow may be basic asl and a drake clone and watered himself down since he blew up, but at least he had something TO water down. his mixtapes from 2016-2019 just beofre whats poppin showed actual promise and love for the culture/genre/artform. hes changed since then due to blowing up, but i cant even compare the two of them tbh.
Lil pump *
Jack Harlow makes trash music but you can't say the guy can't rap to the very least.
Honestly all rappers are kinda a products...Just like you said..
She need to hire writers and go hip pop
I always said Ice Spice was supposed to be an influencer who ALSO happens to make music, like a DDG. We don’t gotta see him all the time but he’s still popular where his fans are, I think this is the exact same for Ice Spice. The teenagers, gay boys and gooners are her fanbase. People still show up so obviously people want to see her, it’s just not nearly as much as social media portrays it to be which is why influencing made more sense to me.
21:05 I agree that she can continue to improve, but it seems like she doesn't care too. Same thing with that one video where she looked annoyed to be twerking on stage. If she doesn't care to improve her writing and dancing, or hell, she can even work with writers. That's what Drake does.
All I had to do was look at the track list
absolutely perfect title
i cant even comprehend how despite this being the easiest era of rap to be able to completely phone it in and still be beloved, she couldnt give us more than 5-6 new songs besides singles. this aint mj dropping thriller with 9 tracks and each one is classic. she need to be like drake and give us 60-75 minutes and hope half of it is decent 😒
9:35, I did. Because it's a not a new product... She's the new JLo, that simple. And I like it.
I wouldn't have called the Swift feature though...