@@krotchlickmeugh627, that's right. They are taught that it's more important to control than to be correct. They are taught not to worry about being right because nothing can happen to them afterwards. They are taught that control is of the utmost importance because ceding control will eventually lead to the citizens losing fear.
Feelings based policing. Every court case will become a precedent, every reoccurrence will become a stinging rebuke, followed by firings and eventually the local PD will be placed under supervision. Qualified immunity will get stripped and once the first lawsuit manages to get to their pensions, it’s going to get interesting
Sadly the liquor boards care more about collecting the yearly licensing fees and making sure taxes are paid. Watching to make sure the laws are being followed is usually left to the police departments.
@@jaggsta he cant sue the bar. They didnt really lie except for when they said that he was asking for money. But they corrected that later. They said he was on their property. But they were mistaken and the lawsuit would not work for just that. They did call them. But the responsibility of him ending up in hand cuffs is ultimately all on the officers stupidity. He knew he was lieing when he was telling jeff he had to ID. Thats why he didnt sound confident and was mixing up his words. Because his instincts told him that his bullshit wasnt going to fly past jeff. He should have listened to those instincts. But cops are slimy little liars.
All on the management on duty, as a supervisor you control how things go, you can feed it, or you can starve it! Well honey, I’ll call the cops because your uncomfortable, or, when you go outside, let me know and I will accompany you. Also, remember your man is sitting out there watching him!
And the manager said he was no more scared because Jeff was armed. Just wait, Florida’s Governor DeSantis said when HB 103 comes to his desk he will sign it. HB103 is open carry for adults, no permit needed.
@@MsArishiaNishi, yeah, why do so many people assume that a crime has been committed simply because they get scared? We see this in audits often. People act as if saying "they are scared" or even "they are uncomfortable" is some sort of Trump card against the auditor. It's very strange.
@@rimat64VC I wasn't sitting out there to watch him lol. I was already there when Jeff Showed up and that's my normal spot where I sit. and when Jeff asked me to film him in case the cops arrested him I told told him I already was hence why the cop asked if I was with him.
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The same bar-bro who called saying he was panhandling, then capitulated that point and parleyed it to "My employee felt uncomfortable."? That liar? But no way they would EVER cite him for making a false report. He's far too white and wealthy-looking.
Iako je taj prostor gdje mu je terasa njemu iznajmit od grada to nije i dalje njegovo privatno vlasništvo i nemože on određivati tko će biti na toj javnoj površini.Druga stvar je što je vlasnik lokala lagao da bi policija uopće izišla da čovjek prosi novac što je lažno svjefočenje i to je krivično djelo što bi trebalo naplatiti vlasniku lokala.Pa bi svi ti takvi drugi put razmislili dali će zvati policiju!
If it was your daughter working there and there was a big guy out front dressed in black with a black hoodie and armed. Would you think your daughter was being a little silly billy feeling uncomfortable serving drinks outside? She came home and told you. I'm sure you would say, come on dear this is America,. Put on your big girl pants and keep serving those drinks. Armed men dressed in black outside your workplace are just exercising their rights. Just take your own gun to work from now on. You are proficent in drawing and shooting. Now go in your room and practise over and over dropping that tray of drinks and drawing on them. You will be fine. I promise.
I’ve said for years that the power of the “review” can turn the tide, not just businesses but whole towns. Hit’m where it hurts, let people know to avoid places where cops unlawfully “detain/arrest” tourist for using a camera, let local businesses know their revenue is being hurt because of bad cops, they’ll eventually put pressure on city government to fix the problem.
Cop: "Hes being an A hole" Supervisor: "Whats he doing?" Cop: "Hes holding up a sign saying God bless America and he is insisting that I don't violate his Constitutional rights." Supervisor: "What a prick! Arrest him for disorderly conduct"
@@peoplenewstoday actually aggravated kidnapping! These fuckers need taught lessons but as it stands the only ones being taught lessons is the taxpayers that have to foot the bill for the civil settlements!
@@clintonhanson the tax payers arent even taught a lesson because the county doesnt tell them about lost lawsuits. No one learns a lesson because the county thinks they are entitled to the money and that its never ending pot of promised money. Idk how they see it that way. But they do. Every county does. Yet i bet if you ask one of the city council members for $20 they would say no.
Way to go Jeff. According to the cop at the end you were “being one of those…you know.” One of those what officer? A person who stands up for their rights and doesn’t lick your boots. These guys.
The wealthy created vagrancy, and loitering laws to combat this type of thing against the poor. With loitering he has to be blocking pedestrian movement or causing a ruckus or intimidating patrons (not just by being present).
@@Consumer0001 Too bad they weren't smart enough to heed his warning. But since its the taxpayer and not them that feel the repercussions impetuous decisions, what do they care.
He says it because he has disdain for america and homeless veterans. Hence his insidious actions. He hated jeff for the sign and when he ssid that it said "god bless america" he showed he hated the made up term just as much.
@@krotchlickmeugh627 I agree but at the same time, The United States is a country in America. That will never change no matter how much people tell themselves and everyone else that the United States is America. It simply isn't true.
It’s funny when cops come across an auditor and say, “he’s baiting us”, but when cops “dress up as a prostitute, text as if an under age child, or deploy unlocked cars in neighborhoods” that’s not considered as baiting.
If someone puts out bait and the bait is taken that doesn't change the person or thing who took the bait they still are that thing sorry if you take the bait you're just as guilty as anything else in the world you took bait you shouldn't have taken you ate the forbidden fruit and now you want to dance around like you're perfect sorry you got bad officers taking the bait they're still bad officers.
@@mrtruecommenter10000 The reason why a fish becomes a dinner meal on someone's plate is because they lack the cognitive ability to realize that there is a hook on the end of the worm. Because an officer FAILS to follow the law, statutes, and the Constitution, he/she DESERVES to to be sent up as a meal on a civil rights lawyer's plate.
The initial cop that confronted you was just ignorant, but the second one was a rights violating coward. He knew better from the start. The only concern they have is to appear to be a hero. Thanx for what you do Patriot.
@@ewkerman4185 yes 100% that's a false report. But his enablers (supervisor's, captains, cheifs, internal affairs, unions) will all find him to be not all fault
@@ewkerman4185 They always do that, I've seen hundreds of different body camera footages and the tyrant always misinforms, misremembers or downright lies his ass off every time. Never have I heard an accurate description/explanation of or for their criminal actions/intentions. Problem is, show me a good cop, I'll show you a guy that's about to get hung out to dry by his gang "buddies" hence no good cop's.
I believe the word ya'll are looking for is PIGnorant. The term ya'll are looking for is #BluKluxKlanKoward. Their only concern is their #BluButthurtEgo. Remember, can't be a Patriot without some 'riot' in it.
Watching this video, AFTER watching the internal affairs interviews after the PD realized this cop clearly violated Jeff’s civil rights, was interesting. As expected, rather than admit he violated Jeff’s rights out of ignorance of the law and plain laziness, Officer Gault and the union thug assisting him rolled out the typical excuses, including the “he baited us” argument, which is nothing short of embarrassing. I guess expecting the police to follow the law and do their job professionally and ethically is “baiting”. Rather than express remorse or regret for overstepping his authority and violating Jeff’s rights, Gault had the audacity to claim “ he is one the most professional officers in this department”. Wow, what arrogance and hubris and incompetence. Hopefully Gault learned his lesson and will do better………..but I seriously doubt it.
Great job Jeff. As a retired police officer and internal affairs investigator I commend you for exposing the cops’ egos and presenting an excellent investigation. This should be mandatory viewing in police academy training.
They have. They reached a 3.4 rating before Google started deleting reviews and brought them up to a 4 again. You know what stays? Questions, ask questions if the business about their behavior and watch them squirm.
This phenomenon is called the Dunning-Kreuger Effect. People with very limited knowledge of a topic will greatly overestimate their knowledge of that topic. Ignorance begets confidence.
Jeff, please do a repeat audit on the anniversary of this video. The best part was the retraining those Officers had to endure...priceless. Blue Sky's.
The detention in cuffs, etc., was because the second cop believed Jeff HAD TO ID. That's it.....he got side tracked by his belief and ego, both of which are misplaced. Guarantee Jeff would have gone to jail without that CCW. And the cops & city facing a legal enima.
11:56...The cop told Jeff, he was being detained "for the identification of you, which is an investigation that they started". The cop will change his story that Jeff was detained for "pan handling", but the video recording clearly shows that the cop detained Jeff, just to get Jeff's identification. CHECKMATE! Jeff wins.
Cop: you have the right to do that but you cant because I say so. You’re here legally but I order you to leave. The bar owner decides if you broke the law.
As much as I hate to defend the cop...he's not wrong nor did he tip his hand.... Maybe just maybe he let the bar owner answer questions.. and his answer decided Jeff's fate. I'm sure Jeff's cam would refute his " begging" and that's for court... Thankfully the guy was honest and told the truth. Had it come down to Word against word...again that's for the courts...but the owner confirmed he didn't hear it so...yes it's quite true what the cop said. Hate to defend them but it was a tactical statement ...Jeff didn't bite and held his ground.
@@BullydogProformances the cop knew he had nothing. The bar employees word isnt even admissible in court because its hear say. The cop knows that. The cop didnt see jeff asking for money so he had no arrest able offense The
The phone call at the end is the best part. Seemed like his boss even said panhandling wasn't a crime but "we do it to the people on the bridge all the time" then he continues to lie instead of just saying that he just violated someones rights.
This is immensely high quality auditing. Notice how Jeff is calm, explains what he’s doing clearly, and stays miles ahead of this officers thought process.
the female who is supposedly afraid to leave has ample opportunity to leave now the po po there. looks like she just doesn't care about leaving. law enforcement has no idea what their doing here. no crime committed but cuffed 1,4,5 amendment violations good grief when will this bs end.
I sure as hell hope you sue the department and the brewing company! I find it interesting that he immediately got on the phone to his supervisor like he knew he fucked up!
Swiner said, "He just needs to go somewhere else." No cop, he doesn't. It's a public sidewalk, deal with it. How great is FOIA. Provides all the evidence on video for any future stripping of Qualified Immunity and a lawsuit against the city. It was in fact an arrest, they handcuffed him and moved him off the scene. The store employee narrowly sidestepped a lawsuit as well.
Well the brewery's page is down, and they are getting hit hard on google reviews. As for the police, they don't care because they are accountable to no one. Stay safe Jeff.
That's not cool. Yes the manager was a dick, but this is hurting other people's livelihood too. Call me old fashioned but I'm not a fan of collective punishment.
The officer's retelling of events was never consistent with what actually occurred. It's shocking that his testimony in court would be permissible, let alone have any weight. God bless you, Jeff. Keep fighting the good fight. You are making a positive change in this world.
It is scary, even the first cop couldn't even remember the 5 words on the sign. He said his "God bless America sign" and the bar ding bat said "or whatever he was spouting." They didn't do any investigation first. Also, the way the cop retold the story made it seem like Jeff was making a threat "He said he had a firearm in his pocket.". When in reality he only said that after the incompetent false memory cop moved to pat him down and ask if anything will poke him in his pockets......... That cop is dangerous.
I've wondered many times how challenging it must be for prosecutors when their entire case relies only on testimony of a cop. With all these thousands of videos showing cops as habitual liars will eventually mean that some fraction of the jury pool won't trust the cop's testimony. All it takes is 1 out of 12 with that view and conviction is impossible.
The first cop had already investigated, and based on what the bar owner said, there had not been a crime committed. So the first cop calls the second cop, perhaps because the second cop is more senior to him, or maybe because he is more aggressive, or smarter than the first cop ( ok, maybe not smarter, but more “coy” ). So the first cop fails to relay all of what he had been told to second cop. That right there should be the end of qualified immunity. He did this knowingly.
It is amazing how the first officer was basically taking his orders from the business owner. What we see here is a common goal with the police (get people to move along to end the call) and they use common tactics to get this. Intimating arrest and harassment until they get their way. And “the ride” is being used as harassment. Make up a charge that doesn’t apply and has no elements to the situation but creates a penalty for not allowing them to violate rights.
Only law abiding citizens are allowed to have a "Concealed Weapon or Firearm License" in the State of Florida. This fact alone should conveyed to the Officers that he was a law abiding citizen. Jeff should sue the Bar as well as the Police.
The bar manager should be held accountable for lying to dispatch! Jeff it really like what you do and how calm you are with everyone. Some of the other auditors should take lessons. Most of them come out as straight pricks!
Another Classic!! I'm calling the Brewery and asking why they would try to have a homeless Veteran Advocate arrested......and why would an employee fear a gun owner who has been authorized to carry by the government of the people? Bad for business in Florida, a lot of retired and current service men and women.
A judge should rip these incompetent so called officers a new one! How do they not know the law? This is the exact reason qualified immunity needs to go!
It’s not a bug, it’s a feature. They intentionally ignore training on the laws and legality of what they do. They don’t protect civil rights, they train on how to get you to give them up or take advantage of the public’s ignorance. That and lots and lots of violent encounter and firearms training… a recipe for disaster.
WOW telling the owner at the business, he's recording me, I'm recording him... in other words, nothing I can do without getting caught! God bless you Jeff!
@5:15 LEO: "this dude's being an A-Hole" What a fine way to represent the city, the police force and yourself. Just think, people are "A-holes" for exercising their constitutional rights in this officers' mind. In my mind, it would be appropriate for this officer to, at a minimum, be suspended for conduct detrimental to the department. Will that happen.... lolololol...
Guess you like instigators and agitators that record people without their consent, make them feel uncomfortable and hurt small businesses by being a pest
Call the sergeant, that’s the moment he realized he screwed up. Jess I certainly hope you take this man to task and strip them of his qualified immunity. I saw the IA interview and it’s clear he signed a memo recently stating he was aware. I hope you have a great case
So nice to have the "other side" of the conservation recorded. Thanks for posting. Now it's all up to your attorney and the city as to how much they pay you!
I live in just north of this and I cannot believe what happened. I have watched Jeff have his civil rights violated so many times it makes me sorry to be an American. I love my country but I hate my government. Especially when you hear someone say that they are a veteran and still violate your civil rights. I am a US Army veteran and I cringe at the treatment of people exercising their civil rights and being violated.
@@larrybutler8948 I thank you for being in service of your country. Now, if we could only implement a good government that doesn't send our young people on stupid errands, we would be okay.
They've done that in every one of these audit videos I've ever seen. Not one time have they been honest about what happened. They _always_ spin it to favor themselves.
@@Nayr747 Because that's what they were trained to do. Police aren't trained to write honest, accurate reports or give accurate information to their superiors. They're trained to write reports and give testimony that will secure a conviction at trial. That means they can't stray TOO far from the facts (especially if cameras are running), but they will definitely spin every little thing they can in whatever way looks best for them and worst for the person they're accusing.
True, but it's not the point of the arrest. Cops couldn't care less about prosecution - only about the immediate gratification they get from imposing their will...
Jeff, when the cops are "just seeing what they are going to report", make sure to inform the cop that they will need to swear to that statement in court. Which means the business will be liable for that statement in the resulting civil suit.
Yes, I would prefer that auditors tell cops to get the caller to sign an affidavit. Instead, far too many auditors cry about the callers lying and beg the cops to believe them instead. It's sad to watch.
@@NeverTalkToCops1 Yes it does. It puts them on notice. Once a police union knows that a dirty cop has been warned that they are in the process of violating a citizens civil rights, yet they continue to do so. Does anyone really think that union is gonna put it's neck out to protect that cop, or let him defend it with his;/her own money and lose that boat or pretty fiancé he had plans on marrying once the news hits national media!!
If Jeff was assaulted by someone the cops would say that "We were not here to see the incident." We will investigate if someone else said you are asking for money. That doesn't seem right. The manager is so ignorant he doesn't know where his property line is. Manager is an idiot. It is all about feelings, "My employee is uncomfortable coming out here."
This cop is lying when he speaks to his supervisor. He detained him before he knew he was armed. That was after the fact. Listening to how ignorant these guys are of the process that they execute daily with regards to arrest, I'd and detaining someone. It's mind boggling how ignorant of the law they are. Jeff is a legend and let's then sink themselves
Qualified Immunity allows this course of action. Why else are LEO's so afraid of cameras they can't delete video from. Detain.search for a crime then arrest. Costs the cop nothing but the citizen loses money time reputation and more.
As polite as the officer was, if he spent less time in the tattoo parlor and more time learning actual statutes, and civil rights that apply in this incident, this situation would have never happened.
Great point dennismood, the real problem is they don't no law and don't care , they learn 6monts of military training to take your rights away every day all day , they are not paying anything to go to court, we pay for them to come and arrest us , and then we pay when they lose in court lawsuits , every day all day all 50 states, time for change hold em accountable
We can only hope that Jeff brings these stupid clowns to court. I am sure he will, because they did violate his civil rights, by identifying him through his conceal carry permit.
The pig on the phone clearly said jeff gave up his ccw which identified himself. And Jeff didn't show that part . so he may not have a leg to stand on . but cops lie
According to Florida ccw law, there is no need to disclose your weapon or your ccw license to a police officer unless directly asked about them. In which you must disclose both on demand to police. Now it gets weird, did the police have a valid reason to make contact with Jeff? Apparently not, if he was turned loose., the investigation. This was a false report by the establishment, therefore this issue is why the establishment didn’t get cited. Personally I hope he sues the crap out of that bar and the individual manager.
The amount of civil liability that this bar took on for calling the police on a legal and lawful activity it astounding. If any of my employees ever call the police before they call me they will be fired without question.
Hey badass boss Aaron, there are people here with guns robbing the place but I had to call you first right? No civil liability was put on the bar. They called the police, and the police fucked up. Fake lawyers like you are so funny. I bet you don't own a toothbrush let alone a business that has employees
@@headswillroll89 What is really funny is that you think if the cops had arrived and beaten or killed him that there would be no liability for the bar owner and employees. If this was in UK, that wouldn't even have to happen, just calling them to generate a public record with your name on it could be enough for a Liable claim. Oh! and if there is an emergency (inside the bar), you press the emergency alarm button and let ADT take care of it. That is why I pay them.
You have that right if one of my employees called the cops without telling me the reason why they be fired. My business could be Jeopardy of being sued and I could not live with myself. If that person was shot, tased and arrested for doing nothing illegal.
The liability lies with law enforcement. The business has absolutely no liability for New Smyrna police misinterpreting the laws or ordinances. The police are the only liable party PERIOD. It is their responsibility to govern laws equally to business owners and civilians.
Hurting the employee's feelings is not a crime. She works in a bar. How is she uncomfortable around a sober man, outside, with a sign? Sweet summer child.
At the end, in the car, on the phone, he tries to frame it as if he hadn't already detainted you and gone hands on at the point you revealed your CCW. He's trying to make it seem like you said you were armed and that's why they took action... But he still made it clear he'd carried out zero investigation prior to holding you as guilty. The phone call made by the public to 911 is not evidence of anything, it's just a way to measure the required response in terms of number of units, speed, level of risk justifiable in the process of getting there. Once on scene the investigation begins.
This highlights one of the biggest disconnects in LEOs and the general public, a “call” DOES NOT EQUAL A CRIME!! Change it just a little, “he’s making my waitress uncomfortable”, “what’s he doing?”, “he’s eating meat, she hates meat, he needs to stop eating meat where she can see it”, yaaa anyone think they’d act the same way for that call??
@robert, EXACTLY. All the cops have when they get "a call", is an unsupported allegation. Their job is to investigate and determine whether the facts (i.e. evidence) indicate whether a crime has/has not been committed.
@@charlesbrown9213 it’s like a guy eating bbq walking down a sidewalk and a vegan calls the cops because they’re “offended” and the cops actually stopping the guy to investigate a possible crime! It really is that simple and stupid. All these disturbing the peace calls on here with auditors, it’s ALWAYS the callers and the cops who are disorderly and disturbing the peace, my other fav is the interference lie, guy 30’ away with a camera and they cry interference, but at same time there’s 50 cameras live right up on them every Friday and Saturday they’re happy to talk to!! Make that Make Sense?? 🤷🏼♂️
@@niciolamyelwee6646 Lol, they are not, and they won't. It's not like the locals or random visitors are going to go check google reviews before going in, be serious.
I think it’s pretty funny that the officer doesn’t understand that you have to investigate first before you arrest anybody you don’t arrest first and then investigate
He knows what the law is. He doesnt care. He is never held accountable, ever. If you had a child (you might idk) imagine that kid messing up really bad. Like stealing your car and crashing it or smoking dang meth kinda messed up. Now imagine when you caught that child. That you gave him the option of choosing his severity of punishment. From nothing happens and just go do whatever it is you do. To being jailed for the crime you committed. Even put yourself in the kids position in this example if it makes it easier. What would you choose? What do you think the child would choose? Okay im assuming you would choose "pass go and collect $200" Do you think you/the child. Would change their behavior to the better or that they would do anything. Including murder because they know there arent consequences? Now imagine if you decided the kids fate and you chose the middle of the road punishment. Losing their job or in jail for a month. Yet a private organization of your friends (the fraternal order of police) sues you and forces you to give the kid all the snacks and release him. Or give him back his job even. Do you think you or that child would act like a normal person? Or do you think that kid would become an evil unaccountable snake biting anything he wants just for fun? Yeah, if people dont see this as a problem that will 100% get much worse. Then its the people that make those decisions that are the problem as well as the unaccountable cops.
He just detained him, not arrested him. And he obviously needs Jeff not to run off during the investigation. They haven't ID'd him yet and may need to if they determine he actually broke the law. Because they realized the manager was lying, he let Jeff go.
Illegal detention. Just because they’re doing an investigation doesn’t mean there is RAS of a crime. They can investigate all they want, but there better be reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime. An employee uncomfortable is not a crime.
So very true. We are told innocent until proven guilty...but notice they never asked if he was asking for money until after he refused to ID for no crime and they detained him
No, it's not. They're investigating the "crime" of panhandling, which they articulated to him because of the call to dispatch. Just because it was a lie doesn't mean it wasn't RAS.
They should have had that talk with the guy outside and with the proprietor BEFORE deciding to put someone in handcuffs and force them across the street. It's clear Jeff wasn't going to attack anyone or flee the scene, so there was no need for all that. They could have done that whole conversation with him standing right there, and it would've been a picture perfect investigation. But cops don't want to actually INVESTIGATE anything. They want to hem people up. They don't get promoted for investigating properly and determining no crime was committed. They get promoted for arrests and convictions. So that's all they want out of any interaction.
@@ajm5007 Did you watch the video? They did. One officer talked to Jeff twice and the manager inside before getting another officer involved. Jeff was only handcuffed because he asked to be. The officers were still wrong, and the manager was a lying jerk, but they investigated before and after the detention.
There should be a Pic of Jeff circulated to all law enforcement with the phrase: do not arrest or hassle this man; he knows more about the law than you do.
This guy puts so much effort into his videos, the simple paper trail he has to do for every video! He’s even got the follow up IA interviews. He does really earn his RUclips cheque each month! 1000% respect Geoff.
So let’s get this right. Violate a citizens rights by detaining him,searching him and then investigate to see if there’s a crime committed? Genius.
All about control. Thats how they are trained. Control everyone in every situation.
Guilty until proven innocent…
... and say that they HAVE to ID him, and that a lawyer is only for court
KEYSTONE COPS!!!
@@krotchlickmeugh627, that's right. They are taught that it's more important to control than to be correct. They are taught not to worry about being right because nothing can happen to them afterwards. They are taught that control is of the utmost importance because ceding control will eventually lead to the citizens losing fear.
IF HE WAS LOOKING FOR A CRIME OR SOMEONE TO ARREST THEN WHY DIDN'T THEY ARREST THE GUYS THAT MADE A FALSE REPORT?
Exactly, slap down a pen and paper and ask for their statement in writing, and signed!
Cops across the country read from the same book of BS. We got a call, you have identify, your detain for the investigation
@@lady4real75 They can HOPE for compliance. They need to learn that they can't COMPEL it. That's not how the law works.
Can’t arrest a bootlicker.
So true
"your attorney is a court thing" lmao it's going to be so great when that gets brought up in court against him
Feelings based policing. Every court case will become a precedent, every reoccurrence will become a stinging rebuke, followed by firings and eventually the local PD will be placed under supervision. Qualified immunity will get stripped and once the first lawsuit manages to get to their pensions, it’s going to get interesting
Sad that American cops literally hate and conspire against American veterans.
What happened to: You have the right to an attorney ????
He wasn't listening..they are that stupid
Mr Golt is very ignorant in that area. What school or academy did he go to???
This officer during the internal affairs investigation was shocked to find out everything Jeff did was legal
even more infuriating to hear the behind the scenes conversations. i hope that brewery loses it's liquor license.
Sadly the liquor boards care more about collecting the yearly licensing fees and making sure taxes are paid. Watching to make sure the laws are being followed is usually left to the police departments.
He can sue both easy settlement from video shows the proof.
@@jaggsta he cant sue the bar.
They didnt really lie except for when they said that he was asking for money. But they corrected that later.
They said he was on their property. But they were mistaken and the lawsuit would not work for just that. They did call them. But the responsibility of him ending up in hand cuffs is ultimately all on the officers stupidity.
He knew he was lieing when he was telling jeff he had to ID. Thats why he didnt sound confident and was mixing up his words. Because his instincts told him that his bullshit wasnt going to fly past jeff. He should have listened to those instincts. But cops are slimy little liars.
Johnny all we can hope for is the good people of new Smyrna Beach see this and no longer support communist
They serve hot beer and cold food from what I hear.
Wow! The behavior of those brewery employees is even more shameful than I originally thought. No decent American should ever patronize that business.
Absolutely.
All on the management on duty, as a supervisor you control how things go, you can feed it, or you can starve it! Well honey, I’ll call the cops because your uncomfortable, or, when you go outside, let me know and I will accompany you. Also, remember your man is sitting out there watching him!
And the manager said he was no more scared because Jeff was armed. Just wait, Florida’s Governor DeSantis said when HB 103 comes to his desk he will sign it. HB103 is open carry for adults, no permit needed.
@@MsArishiaNishi, yeah, why do so many people assume that a crime has been committed simply because they get scared? We see this in audits often. People act as if saying "they are scared" or even "they are uncomfortable" is some sort of Trump card against the auditor. It's very strange.
@@rimat64VC I wasn't sitting out there to watch him lol. I was already there when Jeff Showed up and that's my normal spot where I sit. and when Jeff asked me to film him in case the cops arrested him I told told him I already was hence why the cop asked if I was with him.
"He seemed like he was being, you know..." one of those guys that hold us accountable for all the illegal crap we do.
and THAT was when he terminated his body camera. Ha!
Dude stop incriminating yourself
amen
Kevin VanGelder - HE SEEMED LIKE ONE of those CORRUPT, CRIMINAL, THIN BLUE LINE, GANG MEMBER THUGS, That forgot What being A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER was ALL ABOUT, a LONG TIME AGO‼️
He is SO NARCISSISTIC, and EGOTISTICAL, the Only thing He Runs off of is pure ADRENALINE, RUNNING through his body, Trying too Harass, Intimate, and Bully, The Public into doing things HE WANTS THEM TOO, whether or Not They LEGALLY have to‼️
Public Servants are OUR EMPLOYEES, and Until We are ARRESTED, have absolutely NO AUTHORITY To Stop 🛑 Any of Us, For any reason, unless, THEY HAVE, Reasonable Articulable Suspicion of a Crime!
At which point, They can only Stop, and speak to a person, We on the other hand, are under no obligation to answer any of their questions, and have a RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT. They can perhaps Detain Them.🤔
Which THEY DO All the time regardless, even though it really is AN ILLEGAL DETAINMENT, and if the Officer is sued, the civilian would win a settlement, but it IS ILLEGAL for an Officer to put a Citizen in cuffs without a lawful reason, Yet They do it ALL THE TIME, BECAUSE OF THEIR HUGE EGOS🤢🥴🙄
Most of these DELUSIONAL COPS, are just EGO DRIVEN, trying too BULLY CIVILIANS.
They have completely forgotten why they got into Law Enforcement to begin with, and it has become, a “We vs THEM” mentality ⁉️‼️
They are just out forcing THEIR WILL!
They STOP ✋ People, who LOOK 👀 at Them the wrong way⁉️🥴❌🤔😳
They pull over vehicles, and make up, their own vehicle infractions⁉️ JUST so that They can make a REASON TO “SEARCH” Their vehicle⁉️
There are so many CORRUPT COPS, doing illegal operations, planting Drugs, Stealing Money 💴, Selling, and trafficking Large quantities of Drugs, and ALL OTHER KINDS OF ILLEGAL PROSTITUTION, RAPE, Sexual Crimes, Child crime, etc. and We are just now, starting to finally see a dent in catching some of these Corrupt Cops❌☠️🥶🛑👎🏽👮🏾👿👮🏻♀️🚫👮🏿♂️‼️
A large share, are out on the streets, impaired on Drugs, and/or alcohol🤔 it’s become an epidemic today?
However, Law Enforcement used to be a honourable position, but NOT IN TODAYS SOCIETY, it is almost frowned upon, with the amount of CORRUPT COPS being prosecuted, and more, and more Really horrific behaviour coming to light about POLICE CHIEFS, POLICE LIEUTENANTS, and other Police Officers, it paints a BAD PICTURE of PUBLIC SERVANTS!
IE: LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS, in the WORLD TODAY ‼️ ☠️❌🛑🚫
Interesting how his body cam cut off before finishing that sentence.
That business is asking people for money.
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Huh. Yeah! Tips! No tip jars...
In case it was missed, the second cop said “the bar owner decides if you broke the law”.
Wow! I did miss that. Hmmm
Yeah he also said the bar employees started the investigation.
I laughed
The same bar-bro who called saying he was panhandling, then capitulated that point and parleyed it to "My employee felt uncomfortable."?
That liar? But no way they would EVER cite him for making a false report. He's far too white and wealthy-looking.
Iako je taj prostor gdje mu je terasa njemu iznajmit od grada to nije i dalje njegovo privatno vlasništvo i nemože on određivati tko će biti na toj javnoj površini.Druga stvar je što je vlasnik lokala lagao da bi policija uopće izišla da čovjek prosi novac što je lažno svjefočenje i to je krivično djelo što bi trebalo naplatiti vlasniku lokala.Pa bi svi ti takvi drugi put razmislili dali će zvati policiju!
Boycott this business! Its just another pretentious brew pub anyway! God Bless the Homeless Veterans!!
She works at a bar but feels uncomfortable around a guy with a cardboard sign?? Bless her heart
Lol Same thing I said
If it was your daughter working there and there was a big guy out front dressed in black with a black hoodie and armed. Would you think your daughter was being a little silly billy feeling uncomfortable serving drinks outside? She came home and told you. I'm sure you would say, come on dear this is America,. Put on your big girl pants and keep serving those drinks. Armed men dressed in black outside your workplace are just exercising their rights. Just take your own gun to work from now on. You are proficent in drawing and shooting. Now go in your room and practise over and over dropping that tray of drinks and drawing on them. You will be fine. I promise.
Y’all must be Southerners 👍🤣🤣🤣
Time to call the wambulance!! They’ll even wipe her @$$ for her when they change her diaper!!
My thoughts exactly.
The Cops seem to be working security for this Bar rather than protecting citizens rights. Strange how that works.
same thing happens in fascist shythole countries too. interesting ....
He lied about asking for cash. maybe he needs a few google reviews of his business.
I get huge soyboy vibes from the schmuck too
A very anti American hateful bar.
His Yelp is taking a beating.
I’ve said for years that the power of the “review” can turn the tide, not just businesses but whole towns. Hit’m where it hurts, let people know to avoid places where cops unlawfully “detain/arrest” tourist for using a camera, let local businesses know their revenue is being hurt because of bad cops, they’ll eventually put pressure on city government to fix the problem.
He needs to be prosecuted for a false report.
"you're being detained because, we, we are trying to figure out what they want...." Excellent police work guys
Yes, they work for the business that gets citizens drunk.
Cop: "Hes being an A hole"
Supervisor: "Whats he doing?"
Cop: "Hes holding up a sign saying God bless America and he is insisting that I don't violate his Constitutional rights."
Supervisor: "What a prick! Arrest him for disorderly conduct"
I heard that too! Tyrant for sure.
Book him
Oh the irony of it all.
all that makes sense to thick law enforcement
And they wonder why people have zero respect for them. They bring all that negativity on themselves.
The IA videos that followed this incident were amazing. The officers were found guilty of misconduct.
Found guilty????? and promoted?
Yeah. They are awesome.
He's not saying it's his constitutional right
IT IS HIS CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT
BOYCOTT THIS ESTABLISHMENT
Name of bar please?
@@obiwannabe7481 New Smyrna Beach Brewery
When they took Jeff from the sidewalk, to their police cruiser, they had arrested him, and not just merely a detainment.
Exactly!!
Yep that’s effectively an arrest and not a detainment good catch!
It’s armed kidnapping.
@@peoplenewstoday actually aggravated kidnapping! These fuckers need taught lessons but as it stands the only ones being taught lessons is the taxpayers that have to foot the bill for the civil settlements!
@@clintonhanson the tax payers arent even taught a lesson because the county doesnt tell them about lost lawsuits.
No one learns a lesson because the county thinks they are entitled to the money and that its never ending pot of promised money.
Idk how they see it that way. But they do. Every county does. Yet i bet if you ask one of the city council members for $20 they would say no.
Way to go Jeff. According to the cop at the end you were “being one of those…you know.” One of those what officer? A person who stands up for their rights and doesn’t lick your boots. These guys.
When he was in the bar and called his back up I'm certain he referred to Jeff as being an a-hole?
one of those that knows the laws better than him lovely to watch
Unfortunately, that camera malfunctioned as he saying whatever he was going to say. #quadstatecameras
A person that stands on the sidewalk with a sign.
@@chipsdad5861 omg, call in the Marines!
Jeff is every bit a Patriot as the founding fathers. Bless him!
No God Bless Him.
Jeff's not breaking any laws. Meanwhile, bar patrons are probably driving home under the influence. Thanks for all you do,Jeff.
The wealthy created vagrancy, and loitering laws to combat this type of thing against the poor. With loitering he has to be blocking pedestrian movement or causing a ruckus or intimidating patrons (not just by being present).
It can’t get more ironic than that.
@@Consumer0001 Too bad they weren't smart enough to heed his warning. But since its the taxpayer and not them that feel the repercussions impetuous decisions, what do they care.
Manager lies to officers. Which is a crime.
No lie
Cop reads sign outside 20 times. Goes inside and forgets says the sign says god bless America. What a putz.
Lol
He says it because he has disdain for america and homeless veterans.
Hence his insidious actions.
He hated jeff for the sign and when he ssid that it said "god bless america" he showed he hated the made up term just as much.
That cop would be a great witness some day.
@@krotchlickmeugh627 I agree but at the same time, The United States is a country in America. That will never change no matter how much people tell themselves and everyone else that the United States is America. It simply isn't true.
@@HowardCountyObserver What's with you guys? Nobody calls Canadians or Argentinians "Americans". 🙄
It’s funny when cops come across an auditor and say, “he’s baiting us”, but when cops “dress up as a prostitute, text as if an under age child, or deploy unlocked cars in neighborhoods” that’s not considered as baiting.
Actually those cars are literally called , bait cars. Just type it in the RUclips search bar.
If someone puts out bait and the bait is taken that doesn't change the person or thing who took the bait they still are that thing sorry if you take the bait you're just as guilty as anything else in the world you took bait you shouldn't have taken you ate the forbidden fruit and now you want to dance around like you're perfect sorry you got bad officers taking the bait they're still bad officers.
@@mrtruecommenter10000 The reason why a fish becomes a dinner meal on someone's plate is because they lack the cognitive ability to realize that there is a hook on the end of the worm. Because an officer FAILS to follow the law, statutes, and the Constitution, he/she DESERVES to to be sent up as a meal on a civil rights lawyer's plate.
@@mrtruecommenter10000 actually in my book it's called entrapment.
Or blatanly lie to gain access for searches is just okely dokely
Supreme Court has ruled pan handling is a constitutional right
As freedom of speech.
There are numerous unconstitutional city ordinances.
The initial cop that confronted you was just ignorant, but the second one was a rights violating coward. He knew better from the start. The only concern they have is to appear to be a hero. Thanx for what you do Patriot.
Dint he lie when talking to his commander? He did the terry stop then you told him your were armed, not thte cause of it. Did he file a false report?
@@ewkerman4185 yes 100% that's a false report. But his enablers (supervisor's, captains, cheifs, internal affairs, unions) will all find him to be not all fault
@@ewkerman4185
They always do that, I've seen hundreds of different body camera footages and the tyrant always misinforms, misremembers or downright lies his ass off every time. Never have I heard an accurate description/explanation of or for their criminal actions/intentions.
Problem is, show me a good cop, I'll show you a guy that's about to get hung out to dry by his gang "buddies" hence no good cop's.
That whole phone call was asking for cover. He knew he’d messed up big time, and needed the watch commander to lie for him.
I believe the word ya'll are looking for is PIGnorant. The term ya'll are looking for is #BluKluxKlanKoward. Their only concern is their #BluButthurtEgo. Remember, can't be a Patriot without some 'riot' in it.
Watching this video, AFTER watching the internal affairs interviews after the PD realized this cop clearly violated Jeff’s civil rights, was interesting. As expected, rather than admit he violated Jeff’s rights out of ignorance of the law and plain laziness, Officer Gault and the union thug assisting him rolled out the typical excuses, including the “he baited us” argument, which is nothing short of embarrassing. I guess expecting the police to follow the law and do their job professionally and ethically is “baiting”. Rather than express remorse or regret for overstepping his authority and violating Jeff’s rights, Gault had the audacity to claim “ he is one the most professional officers in this department”. Wow, what arrogance and hubris and incompetence.
Hopefully Gault learned his lesson and will do better………..but I seriously doubt it.
FYI... I think you mean Beatty. Gault was the first officer and Beatty was the second and the one that detained him.
Can you post a link to the video you’re talking about I can’t find it! Dying to see it!
@@BrandyDawn Here's Beatty's internal affairs interview:
ruclips.net/video/FoIpNKtfYs4/видео.html
Good cops can't be BAITED
Would a good officer be baited??? End of discussion.
The cop tells Jeff "you're not breaking any laws", while he has Jeff handcuffed and has seized his weapon. Priceless!
Great job Jeff. As a retired police officer and internal affairs investigator I commend you for exposing the cops’ egos and presenting an excellent investigation. This should be mandatory viewing in police academy training.
Thank you. I appreciate it.
Amazing how many cops find the courage and integrity to speak up _after_ you've retired, isn't it?
@rogerborg Cops are the biggest wimps
And I commend you for using the apostrophe correctly. A very rare sight this day and age. :p
I bet you was just as dirty
Would be a real shame if people left some google reviews explaining that this place calls the police on veterans
And call the business and tell them how much they suck.
They have. They reached a 3.4 rating before Google started deleting reviews and brought them up to a 4 again.
You know what stays? Questions, ask questions if the business about their behavior and watch them squirm.
@@stolasJC it's all good because they started with a 4.8 before all this
I just left one. Let's see if it gets yoinked.
It's amazing how a cop can be so confident and so wrong at the same time. As always Jeff you are the man.
Cops spend Six Months in a police academy yet to become a hair dresser you have to go to school for two years.
@@davidstone33 half the states in the USA is six weeks. Mostly about fighting shooting almost nothing about rights, laws.
@@profribasmat217 what the hell are you saying? I have no clue what you mean by.
@@profribasmat217 WOW that’s worse than I thought
This phenomenon is called the Dunning-Kreuger Effect. People with very limited knowledge of a topic will greatly overestimate their knowledge of that topic. Ignorance begets confidence.
They knew they had nothing, still went hands on for ID.... Disgusting.
FTP
Earning the hate every day
Jeff, please do a repeat audit on the anniversary of this video. The best part was the retraining those Officers had to endure...priceless. Blue Sky's.
Anybody can do a follow-up audit.
Jeff would share it for sure.
He said it was legal multiple times and then put you in cuffs for it. But did nothing to the guy who filed a false police report.
Jeff didn't ask to be detained but Jeff did ask to be put in cuffs.
The detention in cuffs, etc., was because the second cop believed Jeff HAD TO ID. That's it.....he got side tracked by his belief and ego, both of which are misplaced. Guarantee Jeff would have gone to jail without that CCW. And the cops & city facing a legal enima.
11:56...The cop told Jeff, he was being detained "for the identification of you, which is an investigation that they started". The cop will change his story that Jeff was detained for "pan handling", but the video recording clearly shows that the cop detained Jeff, just to get Jeff's identification. CHECKMATE! Jeff wins.
Cop: you have the right to do that but you cant because I say so. You’re here legally but I order you to leave. The bar owner decides if you broke the law.
Feelings based policing
@@MauriceLeviejr *treason
As much as I hate to defend the cop...he's not wrong nor did he tip his hand.... Maybe just maybe he let the bar owner answer questions.. and his answer decided Jeff's fate. I'm sure Jeff's cam would refute his " begging" and that's for court... Thankfully the guy was honest and told the truth. Had it come down to Word against word...again that's for the courts...but the owner confirmed he didn't hear it so...yes it's quite true what the cop said.
Hate to defend them but it was a tactical statement ...Jeff didn't bite and held his ground.
@@BullydogProformances the cop knew he had nothing. The bar employees word isnt even admissible in court because its hear say.
The cop knows that.
The cop didnt see jeff asking for money so he had no arrest able offense
The
@@BullydogProformances, the determination of a law being broken does not rely on a bartender or bar owner!!
He stops the recording when his supervisor gets pissed at him through the phone. Beautiful.
"I don't know if you are asking for money ..." Well now he will in a lawsuit, stupid detain then investigate cop.
The second officer fails to conduct an investigation until AFTER making an illegal detention.
The first cop did not make that mistake.
The phone call at the end is the best part. Seemed like his boss even said panhandling wasn't a crime but "we do it to the people on the bridge all the time" then he continues to lie instead of just saying that he just violated someones rights.
This is immensely high quality auditing. Notice how Jeff is calm, explains what he’s doing clearly, and stays miles ahead of this officers thought process.
the female who is supposedly afraid to leave has ample opportunity to leave now the po po there. looks like she just doesn't care about leaving. law enforcement has no idea what their doing here. no crime committed but cuffed 1,4,5 amendment violations good grief when will this bs end.
I sure as hell hope you sue the department and the brewing company!
I find it interesting that he immediately got on the phone to his supervisor like he knew he fucked up!
He's done it many times before but met his match and was in cover your ass mode...
@@nicknitro4420 yeah I think that’s well articulated in my comment that uh he fucked up an knew it!
"the business owner wouldn't lie" well obviously he did. These cops wanted to beat this guy so bad.
That needs to be the biggest take way here. Of course the business owner would lie. He's the one that has something to gain.
Yeah his hands in the video explain how much he wanted to go Hands-On
God bless the homeless vets
Unless they’re in front of this hate bar.
@@perdidoatlantic and supposedly making someone “feel” uncomfortable.
@@mr.duanesharpe
They’ve gone from feelings police to vagina police.
@@perdidoatlantic lmao. Hahahahaha I almost fell out the window unto the roof. So true.
OMG are you panhandling call SWAT
Swiner said, "He just needs to go somewhere else." No cop, he doesn't. It's a public sidewalk, deal with it. How great is FOIA. Provides all the evidence on video for any future stripping of Qualified Immunity and a lawsuit against the city. It was in fact an arrest, they handcuffed him and moved him off the scene. The store employee narrowly sidestepped a lawsuit as well.
Red shirt guy wont be able to dodge the 911/dispatch call transcript!
@@MrCoolJaybo1 Fer sure. Would like to hear that call.
I was thinking the very same thing. Good catch.
Well the brewery's page is down, and they are getting hit hard on google reviews. As for the police, they don't care because they are accountable to no one. Stay safe Jeff.
That's not cool. Yes the manager was a dick, but this is hurting other people's livelihood too.
Call me old fashioned but I'm not a fan of collective punishment.
Snitches get stitches
@@FriedRys well, the auditor gang does...
This biz can apologize for their behavior, and maybe the protests will stop.
Thats great news. Maybe they should be showing a little more support for the veterans.
Boycott that restaurant and fire the bartender.
The officer's retelling of events was never consistent with what actually occurred. It's shocking that his testimony in court would be permissible, let alone have any weight. God bless you, Jeff. Keep fighting the good fight. You are making a positive change in this world.
It is scary, even the first cop couldn't even remember the 5 words on the sign. He said his "God bless America sign" and the bar ding bat said "or whatever he was spouting." They didn't do any investigation first. Also, the way the cop retold the story made it seem like Jeff was making a threat "He said he had a firearm in his pocket.". When in reality he only said that after the incompetent false memory cop moved to pat him down and ask if anything will poke him in his pockets......... That cop is dangerous.
This type of lies is how America was stolen from the brown people so don't be alarmed.
Copsplaining as always is nauseating.
The cop straight up lies about Jeff saying “I guess I can give you my CCW” this cop has no business carrying a badge
I've wondered many times how challenging it must be for prosecutors when their entire case relies only on testimony of a cop. With all these thousands of videos showing cops as habitual liars will eventually mean that some fraction of the jury pool won't trust the cop's testimony. All it takes is 1 out of 12 with that view and conviction is impossible.
The first cop had already investigated, and based on what the bar owner said, there had not been a crime committed. So the first cop calls the second cop, perhaps because the second cop is more senior to him, or maybe because he is more aggressive, or smarter than the first cop ( ok, maybe not smarter, but more “coy” ). So the first cop fails to relay all of what he had been told to second cop. That right there should be the end of qualified immunity. He did this knowingly.
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Bingo!
It is amazing how the first officer was basically taking his orders from the business owner. What we see here is a common goal with the police (get people to move along to end the call) and they use common tactics to get this. Intimating arrest and harassment until they get their way. And “the ride” is being used as harassment. Make up a charge that doesn’t apply and has no elements to the situation but creates a penalty for not allowing them to violate rights.
Only law abiding citizens are allowed to have a "Concealed Weapon or Firearm License" in the State of Florida. This fact alone should conveyed to the Officers that he was a law abiding citizen. Jeff should sue the Bar as well as the Police.
The bar manager should be held accountable for lying to dispatch!
Jeff it really like what you do and how calm you are with everyone.
Some of the other auditors should take lessons. Most of them come out as straight pricks!
funny but in this video the cops and the bar staff come out as lying pricks too ,God bless homeless vets
Another Classic!! I'm calling the Brewery and asking why they would try to have a homeless Veteran Advocate arrested......and why would an employee fear a gun owner who has been authorized to carry by the government of the people? Bad for business in Florida, a lot of retired and current service men and women.
Post a follow-up after you call.
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They hate the veterans.
FYI NSB Brewing Co limited posts to their IG page. Apparently they know they screwed up, but would rather hide.
A judge should rip these incompetent so called officers a new one! How do they not know the law? This is the exact reason qualified immunity needs to go!
We definitely need to end qualified immunity!💯💯💯👍
And the reason it won't change is the same reason the judge won't do shit. They're in cahoots.
It’s not a bug, it’s a feature. They intentionally ignore training on the laws and legality of what they do. They don’t protect civil rights, they train on how to get you to give them up or take advantage of the public’s ignorance. That and lots and lots of violent encounter and firearms training… a recipe for disaster.
Tell the bar owner he’s doing nothing illegal in front of his bar.
I see a 'For Lease' sign in this bars future. Florida's Auditors should see to it.
WOW telling the owner at the business, he's recording me, I'm recording him... in other words, nothing I can do without getting caught! God bless you Jeff!
@5:15 LEO: "this dude's being an A-Hole" What a fine way to represent the city, the police force and yourself. Just think, people are "A-holes" for exercising their constitutional rights in this officers' mind. In my mind, it would be appropriate for this officer to, at a minimum, be suspended for conduct detrimental to the department. Will that happen.... lolololol...
I love this guy, willing to go to jail for his rights! The best auditor out there.
They are your rights too
Guess you like instigators and agitators that record people without their consent, make them feel uncomfortable and hurt small businesses by being a pest
@@rhsalce small businesses and government building do record without you without your convent.
@@rhsalce Businesses and government do record you without your consent when you’re in public because there is no expectation of privacy in public.
@@rhsalce yeah, I do!
Call the sergeant, that’s the moment he realized he screwed up. Jess I certainly hope you take this man to task and strip them of his qualified immunity. I saw the IA interview and it’s clear he signed a memo recently stating he was aware. I hope you have a great case
where is the IA video I would like to see it
@@farmerrog3679 its there just search Jeffs videos theres 3 of them
I saw the IA video...the cop was so dumb
@@farmerrog3679 ruclips.net/video/FoIpNKtfYs4/видео.html
His deposition showed his ignorance and he should have been fired.
As an owner of a bar.I would fire the bartender for creating all of this.
So nice to have the "other side" of the conservation recorded.
Thanks for posting.
Now it's all up to your attorney and the city as to how much they pay you!
I live in just north of this and I cannot believe what happened.
I have watched Jeff have his civil rights violated so many times it makes me sorry to be an American.
I love my country but I hate my government.
Especially when you hear someone say that they are a veteran and still violate your civil rights.
I am a US Army veteran and I cringe at the treatment of people exercising their civil rights and being violated.
That's because 99% of them commit treason daily......
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I am a Nam Vet and we we came home we were all treated like this. John Kerry and his group stood in the airport and spit on us.
@@larrybutler8948 I thank you for being in service of your country. Now, if we could only implement a good government that doesn't send our young people on stupid errands, we would be okay.
I'm in Daytona and will be visiting this bar and discussing this bullshit with them.
Jeff is educating a whole generation of officers, one complaint at a time.
How do you setup a robo call to the restaurant to say" Bless the homeless vets" upon answering the phone.
I'd pay for this.
That cop went down the whole damn checklist of reasons why he may have to move knowing damn well he was well within his rights.
wow the officer who lied to his supervisor about why he detained you is crazy
They've done that in every one of these audit videos I've ever seen. Not one time have they been honest about what happened. They _always_ spin it to favor themselves.
@@Nayr747 Because that's what they were trained to do. Police aren't trained to write honest, accurate reports or give accurate information to their superiors. They're trained to write reports and give testimony that will secure a conviction at trial. That means they can't stray TOO far from the facts (especially if cameras are running), but they will definitely spin every little thing they can in whatever way looks best for them and worst for the person they're accusing.
"A business owner wouldn't lie." LMAO
No officer’s, a judge nor prosecutor would even listen to this case thus getting thrown out completely.
I’d love to believe that is so but, with all these videos it’s not so. That cop needs a serious attitude adjustment
Well, probably. But it's never a foregone conclusion.
True, but it's not the point of the arrest. Cops couldn't care less about prosecution - only about the immediate gratification they get from imposing their will...
“You’re only being detained ‘ till I can find out what they want” ….that doesn’t sound like a lawful Terry stop at all!
God bless Jeff Gray. Cheers from Canada!!! 🇨🇦
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I hope this business goes out of business for harassing a law abiding citizens.
Jeff, when the cops are "just seeing what they are going to report", make sure to inform the cop that they will need to swear to that statement in court. Which means the business will be liable for that statement in the resulting civil suit.
Yes, I would prefer that auditors tell cops to get the caller to sign an affidavit. Instead, far too many auditors cry about the callers lying and beg the cops to believe them instead. It's sad to watch.
No. Telling a cop what they will or will not swear to in court does absolutely nothing. Think it through.
@@NeverTalkToCops1 Yes it does. It puts them on notice. Once a police union knows that a dirty cop has been warned that they are in the process of violating a citizens civil rights, yet they continue to do so. Does anyone really think that union is gonna put it's neck out to protect that cop, or let him defend it with his;/her own money and lose that boat or pretty fiancé he had plans on marrying once the news hits national media!!
@@dkayflowers79 Yep, the union is opposed to the citizens and will support any lawless officer and anything they say, even i known to be false.
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Yes Jeff is the “MasterBaiter”, he knows how to chum the streets for ignorant cops. Another excellent ‘God Bless The Homeless Vets’ video. 🎣
I think baiting would be doing something that appears to be illegal which he did not do
He is doing good work for this country though
Jeff always asks god to bless the vets but nobody ever asks god to bless JEFF! GOD BLESS YOU JEFF!
I wonder how the brewery feels about seeing themselves as proponents of tyranny?😮
If Jeff was assaulted by someone the cops would say that "We were not here to see the incident." We will investigate if someone else said you are asking for money. That doesn't seem right. The manager is so ignorant he doesn't know where his property line is. Manager is an idiot. It is all about feelings, "My employee is uncomfortable coming out here."
This cop is lying when he speaks to his supervisor. He detained him before he knew he was armed. That was after the fact. Listening to how ignorant these guys are of the process that they execute daily with regards to arrest, I'd and detaining someone. It's mind boggling how ignorant of the law they are. Jeff is a legend and let's then sink themselves
There were two cops.
Jeff is the OG!✌️
Qualified Immunity allows this course of action. Why else are LEO's so afraid of cameras they can't delete video from. Detain.search for a crime then arrest. Costs the cop nothing but the citizen loses money time reputation and more.
They know the laws but that does not generate money for the city or their department.
yeah, i noticed that too. trying to mitigate his fuckup
This is like the biggest bar full of snowflakes I've seen in my life.
As polite as the officer was, if he spent less time in the tattoo parlor and more time learning actual statutes, and civil rights that apply in this incident, this situation would have never happened.
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Cop Gang Symbol -the Shamrock from ..."House of Pain"
Great point dennismood, the real problem is they don't no law and don't care , they learn 6monts of military training to take your rights away every day all day , they are not paying anything to go to court, we pay for them to come and arrest us , and then we pay when they lose in court lawsuits , every day all day all 50 states, time for change hold em accountable
Bro you can’t be a full member til you inked up😮
Polite or pigright?
We can only hope that Jeff brings these stupid clowns to court. I am sure he will, because they did violate his civil rights, by identifying him through his conceal carry permit.
The pig on the phone clearly said jeff gave up his ccw which identified himself. And Jeff didn't show that part . so he may not have a leg to stand on . but cops lie
According to Florida ccw law, there is no need to disclose your weapon or your ccw license to a police officer unless directly asked about them. In which you must disclose both on demand to police.
Now it gets weird, did the police have a valid reason to make contact with Jeff?
Apparently not, if he was turned loose., the investigation. This was a false report by the establishment, therefore this issue is why the establishment didn’t get cited.
Personally I hope he sues the crap out of that bar and the individual manager.
More than that. Given Jeff was moved from one location to another, this is effectively an arrest. Not just a detainment.
I love when you say, "God put it in my heart to be here."
Really reinforces freedom of religion.
Satan bless you
The amount of civil liability that this bar took on for calling the police on a legal and lawful activity it astounding. If any of my employees ever call the police before they call me they will be fired without question.
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Hey badass boss Aaron, there are people here with guns robbing the place but I had to call you first right? No civil liability was put on the bar. They called the police, and the police fucked up. Fake lawyers like you are so funny. I bet you don't own a toothbrush let alone a business that has employees
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What is really funny is that you think if the cops had arrived and beaten or killed him that there would be no liability for the bar owner and employees. If this was in UK, that wouldn't even have to happen, just calling them to generate a public record with your name on it could be enough for a Liable claim.
Oh! and if there is an emergency (inside the bar), you press the emergency alarm button and let ADT take care of it. That is why I pay them.
You have that right if one of my employees called the cops without telling me the reason why they be fired. My business could be Jeopardy of being sued and I could not live with myself. If that person was shot, tased and arrested for doing nothing illegal.
The liability lies with law enforcement. The business has absolutely no liability for New Smyrna police misinterpreting the laws or ordinances.
The police are the only liable party PERIOD. It is their responsibility to govern laws equally to business owners and civilians.
Patrons driving home drunk, that’s ok. Holding a sign, “I’ll need to see your ID.”
0:06 "come'ere bud" ...hmmm... interesting approach. I guess the officer is expressing exactly now much respect he has for this citizen.
He was being one of those,..... people that stick up for their rights?
The same rights we swore to uphold and protect.
Going by the cops’ logic of ‘You’re only being detained until I can work out what their problem was’, why isn’t the proprietor also detained?
Hurting the employee's feelings is not a crime. She works in a bar. How is she uncomfortable around a sober man, outside, with a sign? Sweet summer child.
At the end, in the car, on the phone, he tries to frame it as if he hadn't already detainted you and gone hands on at the point you revealed your CCW. He's trying to make it seem like you said you were armed and that's why they took action... But he still made it clear he'd carried out zero investigation prior to holding you as guilty. The phone call made by the public to 911 is not evidence of anything, it's just a way to measure the required response in terms of number of units, speed, level of risk justifiable in the process of getting there. Once on scene the investigation begins.
The cop said the bar owner decides if Jeff broke the law.
@@perdidoatlantic i missed that. Can you give a time stamp please
Trying to cover his ass. He knows now he screwed up.
@@jaketanner20001 That's what the phone call to his boss was all about alright!
You're right. The cop also tries to blame the whole thing on dispatch.
This cop tries every single lie he can imagine...They despise the fact that people stand up for their God given rights.
We heard in school we have a. Constitution . But not what it is
This highlights one of the biggest disconnects in LEOs and the general public, a “call” DOES NOT EQUAL A CRIME!! Change it just a little, “he’s making my waitress uncomfortable”, “what’s he doing?”, “he’s eating meat, she hates meat, he needs to stop eating meat where she can see it”, yaaa anyone think they’d act the same way for that call??
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And Don't forget the cop's all important report.
That is a 911 system problem. One of many issues with our CJS.
@robert, EXACTLY.
All the cops have when they get "a call", is an unsupported allegation. Their job is to investigate and determine whether the facts (i.e. evidence) indicate whether a crime has/has not been committed.
@@charlesbrown9213 it’s like a guy eating bbq walking down a sidewalk and a vegan calls the cops because they’re “offended” and the cops actually stopping the guy to investigate a possible crime! It really is that simple and stupid. All these disturbing the peace calls on here with auditors, it’s ALWAYS the callers and the cops who are disorderly and disturbing the peace, my other fav is the interference lie, guy 30’ away with a camera and they cry interference, but at same time there’s 50 cameras live right up on them every Friday and Saturday they’re happy to talk to!! Make that Make Sense?? 🤷🏼♂️
Violated his rights. Didn't know that panhandling is not a crime. Then, they investigate. 😡
Wow lying to his supervisor. He took your CCW to identify you. Would’ve loved to hear the rest of that conversation
I'm not a religious guy but "God Bless the homeless vets" is certainly a message I can get with.
The owners of that bar didn't, wonder if they've gone bust yet.
@@niciolamyelwee6646 Lol, they are not, and they won't. It's not like the locals or random visitors are going to go check google reviews before going in, be serious.
I think it’s pretty funny that the officer doesn’t understand that you have to investigate first before you arrest anybody you don’t arrest first and then investigate
Cops literally do not care what the law is.
He knows what the law is.
He doesnt care.
He is never held accountable, ever.
If you had a child (you might idk) imagine that kid messing up really bad. Like stealing your car and crashing it or smoking dang meth kinda messed up.
Now imagine when you caught that child. That you gave him the option of choosing his severity of punishment. From nothing happens and just go do whatever it is you do. To being jailed for the crime you committed.
Even put yourself in the kids position in this example if it makes it easier.
What would you choose? What do you think the child would choose?
Okay im assuming you would choose "pass go and collect $200"
Do you think you/the child. Would change their behavior to the better or that they would do anything. Including murder because they know there arent consequences?
Now imagine if you decided the kids fate and you chose the middle of the road punishment. Losing their job or in jail for a month. Yet a private organization of your friends (the fraternal order of police) sues you and forces you to give the kid all the snacks and release him. Or give him back his job even.
Do you think you or that child would act like a normal person? Or do you think that kid would become an evil unaccountable snake biting anything he wants just for fun?
Yeah, if people dont see this as a problem that will 100% get much worse.
Then its the people that make those decisions that are the problem as well as the unaccountable cops.
@@MsArishiaNishi LOL!
He just detained him, not arrested him. And he obviously needs Jeff not to run off during the investigation. They haven't ID'd him yet and may need to if they determine he actually broke the law. Because they realized the manager was lying, he let Jeff go.
Watch the video again. He did a detailed investigation.
Illegal detention. Just because they’re doing an investigation doesn’t mean there is RAS of a crime. They can investigate all they want, but there better be reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime. An employee uncomfortable is not a crime.
Yes.
So very true. We are told innocent until proven guilty...but notice they never asked if he was asking for money until after he refused to ID for no crime and they detained him
No, it's not. They're investigating the "crime" of panhandling, which they articulated to him because of the call to dispatch. Just because it was a lie doesn't mean it wasn't RAS.
They should have had that talk with the guy outside and with the proprietor BEFORE deciding to put someone in handcuffs and force them across the street. It's clear Jeff wasn't going to attack anyone or flee the scene, so there was no need for all that. They could have done that whole conversation with him standing right there, and it would've been a picture perfect investigation.
But cops don't want to actually INVESTIGATE anything. They want to hem people up. They don't get promoted for investigating properly and determining no crime was committed. They get promoted for arrests and convictions. So that's all they want out of any interaction.
@@ajm5007 Did you watch the video? They did. One officer talked to Jeff twice and the manager inside before getting another officer involved. Jeff was only handcuffed because he asked to be. The officers were still wrong, and the manager was a lying jerk, but they investigated before and after the detention.
I don't remember what the payday was for that,but the depositions were priceless.
Apparently new Smyrna beach needs to feel the sting of a federal lawsuit. I see criminal conspiracy.
GOD BLESS JEFF AND ALL THE HOMELESS VETERANS god you rule
There should be a Pic of Jeff circulated to all law enforcement with the phrase: do not arrest or hassle this man; he knows more about the law than you do.
This guy puts so much effort into his videos, the simple paper trail he has to do for every video! He’s even got the follow up IA interviews. He does really earn his RUclips cheque each month! 1000% respect Geoff.
Aww, it stop right as he was gonna call you a "Sovereign Citizen."