Silent Hill 2 Analysis | The Meaning of the Innocent Man Puzzle
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
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Interpreting the Innocent Man puzzle of Silent Hill 2.
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I do feel in this regard, Eddie and Angela are being judged harshly. Angela killed in passion yes but for the purpose of putting an end to her torment by killing her abusers and eddy was corrupted into a monster by bullying and the negligent community at large that enabled the bullying.
But he became a sociopath and does not feel regret. Silent Hill may not have let him go even if he had survived James' gun fight.
Eddie is less sympathetic than Angela I think. James in the middle. But the point is still well made. If I were the one having to decide, I'd hand out justice to Eddie without hesitation, allow Angela to go free, and... be conflicted what to do with James. Probably, hand out justice as well. But definitely not to Angela. She may feel she deserves it but I don't think that kind of self-defense deserves it at all. I'm sure her reading of her own situation is the only reason she's here, not the judgement of anyone else. Eddie and James are judged harshly but, for the safety of others, they need to be. Angela wouldn't be judged harshly, except she judges herself that way, led by the abuse she suffered. It's interesting, it's three different responses to trauma. Angela: blame yourself. Eddie: blame everyone else. James: refuse to decide. In that way, Eddie is the most correct, yet by his actions he's also the most destructive. James is the only one who, eventually, arrives at the correct blame - himself mostly, but with mercy and tragedy as accomplices - but it takes the elimination of Eddie and the abandonment of Angela in order to reach that point. Abandonment of the idea that it's as simple as being only you deserving it... for that's always not quite in-reach, not quite right. Slaughter of the idea that blame is to be thrown outward to anyone else who might look at you funny... for that will always fight back, and never ring true.
I love the characterization in this game, just so well done. :)
I believe Angela is innocent 😔 she didn't do anything wrong.
@@greenbird183 I agree completely. But the sad thing is, she doesn't. She thinks she's deserving, and that's why she's drawn to the town. She's wrong, but she won't be convinced otherwise.
I mean, you had a point in Angela. But I think Eddie deserved it. Angela was abused her whole childhood, both mentally and physically. But in the end she was presented as being unstable. Eddie, on the other hand, grew up being bullied for his physique. But he chose to shot the dog and his owner who and he didn’t have a slightest regret about it. That’s why Eddie’s death was visible to us. Angela’s, on the other hand, was left ambiguous. I believed that she went to the afterlife after she ascended the staircase, because ascended in silent hill is often portrayed as good or positive.
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Love your work Muse! I hope you're more comfortable with the feedback in comments now and we can see more personal Silent Hill videos, like your favorite theories or how you feel about the canonical shift brought on by Origins, etc. I understand the SH community has plenty of gatekeepers that say Laura is real and refuse to let anyone say otherwise.
I highly appreciate the new perspective you bring into SH lore in general. Your way of viewing things has always been fresh to me, and being able to use the comments now, along with your new content, is such a delight to see. Hope you're keeping yourself safe, friend.
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Interesting that the innocent changes in each difficulty and there are four main characters who are innocent too, with only James and Eddie having done grave harm for questionable reasons
The town does not view Angela as innocent, or at least, she does not view herself as such
SPOILERS! Angela's story is really sad. But she also committed the same act as Eddie and James. I think the creators wanted to portray the various degrees of murder and delve deep into how all of us feel about that. Eddie blatantly murdered someone, probably with intent, because he found a gun first. James is kind of in the middle... You can see his POV, but he still committed murder by law. Angela killed in self-defense. Or if she killed her father whilst not defending, but planned it, a jury might be sympathetic to the situation. I'm no law expert, but it keeps me thinking, what would happen in such a case. Is it still self-defense? Anyway, Angela murdered her farther, she might be deemed innocent by a court, but inside... Her father's cruelest act is making her feel she is guilty for all of it.
I might as well add: yes, I know Angela killed her monster of a father and possibly her brother as well and it ended up adding more to her trauma and she's consumed by self-hatred and guilt thanks to the abuse and neglect she went through, I don't care whatever some useless law thinks of it, even if she had planned it her reason is much more reasonable than James and Eddie's, characters that I really like btw (well, at least James), who had far more control over the situation
I find trying to put Angela on the same level as them rather disturbing, to say the least. No one is free of sin, but there's a certain nuance and sensibility that should be respected in cases such as this.
Plus, I'm surprised we're not discussing Maria and Mary's morality for example? Both never committed murder but turned abusive in their depression when their death became ever more closer, and if we're take the final boss as not just James' self-punishment but also Maria and Mary's own feelings, they are both enraged and willing to kill for revenge. That would be a much more proper and interesting discussion imo.
@@LobselErik I was with you up until the last part. I sincerely hope you never have to experience the slow, painful death of a loved one. Mary's behavior is very much normal and expected. I'd hope that you'd have a little more compassion than that.
@@WobblesandBean I don't mean that as judging her though, but rather acknowledging her depth as a character. I know exactly what it feels like to have death be a very present possibility and how much it can affect a person's mind and I find Mary and Maria's depiction of that kind of depression really comforting in a way tbh. I apologize if it came across as insensitive.
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this puzzle was so hard for my innocent young brain so I just checked the guide book from a game magazine lol
I love your videos Muse! I'm obsessed with the Silent Hill and your videos are part of why in so obsessed lol. 😂
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Yay!!!! The comments are open again. Another fantastic video MUSE 🙌💖. I really enjoyed this puzzle in the game, it was so creepy and unsettling. I love your analysis. I never noticed how the murderer is never innocent. Great theory for how it is a commentary on James' own guilt. It's incredible how much depth these games have that we are STILL able to dissect and discover new details all these years later 🤯🤯🤯
It makes me happy to see a new one of these posted lol
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I'm not sure the six hanging figures properly align with the six characters, with only one being innocent. Presumably, Laura is the intended innocent; being she's a child and the natural association with innocence and children. But that leaves us with Mary, what was her crime in this? Come to think of it, what is Maria guilty of? Deception perhaps or possibly the counterfeit (being a doppelganger of Mary)? I'm not trying to match the crimes to the characters, as such, merely the concept of guilt and innocence (which is a major theme of the game.) I think we have more than one innocent here, as well as varying degrees of justification for their crimes.
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Just some constructive criticism about the music in the background:
I find the off-key notes and the constant rapid key changes very distracting from the core video. It may help to turn the music volume down *just a little tiny bit* ... or it's just my A.D.D. ... I love your videos very much and I am just trying to help. Please forgive me if this sounded offensive in any way.
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Yes we're back!! Love the vid!
Fantastic video as always. Can't get enough of these videos.
Thank you! I love these series!
Always loved these Silent Hill Symbolism essays. Love ya Muse
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Here's the crazy part about what you're saying right here.
Against the final boss, one of Mary's attacks is Hanging.
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I originally thought that you had to pull the noose's in order. 😂😂😂😂 Mind you it was a decade or so ago but still. I am blown away from the symbolism between the main cast and the hanged prisoners.
I enjoyed this puzzle, but it was a pain to figure out the first time I played SH2
How bout the 20th time?
@@MoeMoon Still a pain in the arse
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I remember a youtuber called queen of headless who did a series of videos deeply analysing Silent Hill 2 which alas no longer exists
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I thought this game was supposed to be symbolic of circumcision or some shit.
Lmao, that was for Sullivan from SH4
The guy that fabricated that theory through stretching the metaphors that were presented also tried shoehorning it into other games too. He used to be an editor for the SH wiki (plus a few others), and was removed when he wouldn't stop changing articles to reflect his frustrations of circumcision. I think his name on there was Alex Shepherd.
Another great video muse! I would love to see you do a video about the sh2 Rebirth ending. It has always fascinated me.
Thanks for coming back! I don’t even know why there was any negativity but I really love your videos :)
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Thank you so much
I wonder what the doors in Nowhere means. "Phaleg", "Opiel", "Aratron", etc.
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Thanks for uploading
Hey whats ur opinion on the Remake version of the same puzzle
that's interesting but...which dead men puzzle hint do you prefer?
Great work!
Please thank your mom for narrating this video! She did a good job!
YES, James is guilty as sin!!!!!!!!!!!
Love a symbolism video.
6 characters, 1 innocent? That doesn't add up. Mary and Laura are both innocents. Maria too, kinda.
If I could request one character for an episode Muse, I would look at Travis Grady from Silent Hill: Origins
I think there's alot in the game that you can work with to give him his own episode. 😊
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Seriously, I think we can get a sequel with Cheryl Mason. I just want a new silent hill
No, you don't. You want OLD Silent Hill. Every new game Konami has made in the series has gotten increasingly worse, and you know it.
I don't want a new Silent Hill game. What I want is for the members of the original Team Silent to make a spiritual successor.
@@WobblesandBean you're right actually lmao, i played only downpour and it wasn't hitting the same. I heard homecoming is absolute trash with combat. I only played 1- 3 and i have yet to play 4 😪 i would buy a ps2 right now and hunt for it/the fatal frame series.
Silent Hill 2 is a game.
Out of the six characters, would Laura or Mary be the innocent?
Laura's the innocent one. Mary is not entirely without sin.
Though that does raise the question, who corresponds to whom?
*James is the murderer, that much is clear.
*I'm guessing Angela would be the arsonist, and Eddie the injurer.
*Would that make Maria the counterfeiter?
*I guess Laura could be the swindler, since she does trick James that one time.
* I can't for the life of me pin one to Mary. Although I guess she could be the thief, since she did technically steal James's life by becoming incredibly ill and abusive.
@@gregorywiederecht That really connects well!
Which one of these is Kenneth Copeland i wonder...hm...
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My god we need a new game.
Why? It’s just going to suck.
@@dollhead2039 a remake wouldn’t suck. Just go with the source material with better graphics
@@dollhead2039 Well it’s just dragging to be talking about the smallest little details of these decade old games
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Great great analysis but a dislike for that goofy ahh intro