Harley Bagger Horsepower Shootout (Battle of the Baggers EP.1) - Vlog 105
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- Опубликовано: 4 дек 2023
- Follow along as we head to the Dyno with our Harley-Davidson Road Glides. We put a stock 107" Milwaukee 8 and a stock 117" M8 on the Dyno to see the real Horsepower and Torque numbers these bikes put down. This is the baseline before we start modifying the 107" to try and beat the 117". Follow along this series to see what it takes. Part 2 drops next week!
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Bingo!!!
Ok, watching real pros work on bikes with technical skill, insights, engineering cred, and clear eyed plans for the future is the best Vlogging on YT. The whole Thrashin and "See You Down the Road" teams are simply worthy of genuine respect and free tacos anytime!!! Bless you boys!
Thanks for the love!
That 107 with a cam is going to give that 117 all it can handle
Yo boys! I had a zippers redshift 468 put in my reef blue 2022 road glide standard with a Bassani 2 into 1 mid length exhaust and Arlen ness big sucker air cleaner and it put me at 106hp and 119 ft/lbs. All with the screaming eagle tuner. I’m pretty stoked with that so I think Juan will be sitting pretty after the feuling cam.
Love watching you with your hp argument , I'll stay in the slow lane with my trusty panhead .
That’s awesome guys tuning with an absolute legend!!
This is great, looking forward to the next installment
This is gonna be like Christmas morning!!!
Started watching this channel from this years Daytona bike week. Since then i watched all videos from the channel till today. Love the content, one day ill get a harley myself! Keep it up guys!
This was killer boys... very informative. I'm using the FP3 too so its nice to know exactly what its doing
Juan is definitely going to get some good performance out of that 107 with a cam. I put an S&S 465 torque cam in my softail with a 107 which brought it up to 106 hp/116 torque. Little less hp than the S&S 475 cam, but all the power is down low and immediate. Guy said he had it up to about 165 mph on the dyno, but that's with no wind resistance.
JUAN, Please put down the phone and get rid of the Auto Tuner. Your bike deserves a real tune.
Totally understand and I felt the awkward vibes in the dyno room when the VH product wasn't lookin too hot
Listen to the man in charge of the dyno , TTS is the way to go!
107 with a cam loves to rev!! Parts list I broke after adding a cam in my 107.
Compensator, 2 OEM transmissions, clutch basket case, shredded belts, crank shaft twisted as well.
I love my bike. I ride the piss out of it. Break fix repeat 🤘🏻
Looking forward to the next videos and seeing the mod list!
The V & H fp3 has a setting where u can see the live data and HP/Torque
this vlog was wicked guys!!! amazing work...cant wait to see the outcome
Thanks for the love!
Let’s gooo!! Can’t wait to see Juanitos RG make some power! 🔥
I have a vance and heinz fuel pack 3 and was able to adjust each cell air fuel mixture manually. But had no luck with auto tuning. 2009 FLHTC after that the bike had no codes and felt much better.
So stoked to have Cole on the team!
Us too!
My 2021 RG 107 I put S,E torque cam, S.E elite air breather, took out the cat, 4.5 dbx slip ons and Dino tuned stock comp. 97 hp and 117 tq. Needs dyno again as we kept rpm away from red line cause of warranty.
I'm in PA and have a 114, base power stock was 81hp 111tq. I installed the cycle rama cr480mt and have 114hp/132tq
You guys are awesome! More power!!!!
Very exciting series. 😎Thx
Just dropped a 30 30 485 star racing cam and all the supporting goodies along with power Vision tuner in my 23 Road glide 107... World of difference over stock.... Pushing 120 HP and 130 torque, been waiting for y'all's shootout. Great content, keep on keeping on fellas 🤙
That is awesome!
That skyline while riding 👌🏻👌🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸
hes a legend in both our worlds, he also knew the legend from lamborghini Valentino Balboni
Aww you guys have matching shoes! You make such a cute couple ❤
Totally rad....... Absolutely love your vlogs.... 🤘
Glad you like them!
That was a great video and now feel much better about my 2020 107 compared to the 114 and higher!
Ayy shoutout Juan for coming down to my hometown Hollister
I remember seeing a wild turbo dyna back in 2010 took pics of it and all then completely forgot about it fast forward about 12yrs I now own that bike. And have since made an even more custom turbo kit for it
damm ,engineers ,from airplanes ,motorcycles, autos, jets ETC ...much respect ,!!!!!
Good stuff guys ty for the content
Very interesting and informative! 🤙🏼
Glad you enjoyed it!
Our building is attached to theirs, I always want to come over and check out what they’ve got on the Dyno, lol. I haven’t met Allan yet, but Gene and Mike are pretty cool guys. The W3 engines they had in there last time I swung by were awesome! They finish that composite plane they had at the entrance yet?
Almost over 100 hp, that's cute!
Have you all considered running a Thunder Max ECM? It replaces the stock Harley ECM and runs wideband o2s, so no more trying to trick the Harley ECM with a Dyno Jet or Vance & Hines intermediary tuner interfacing with the stock ECM.
I loved that one guy's great show
Thanks!
Are you eating than in-n-out in a wind storm dudes?? 😂😂 great vid. My 117 stage 1 fxlrst mad 104 at the tire a a mobile dyno at a bike event. I was praying for 100. Edit: 5th gear up. Because of the speed limiter.
I really 'liked' the part of the video at 31:43 when the tuner dismounts and kicks the right saddle bag with his work boot! Ouch😮
Proper R&D haha
Not a floppy drive…😂 had me dying… no offense at all very smart guy… but still funny 😂
In California, making a 107 out power a 117 is tough. The rest of the world does it daily, just a little cam, add a few more spices and it’s smoking it.
Star racing cams
I mean this isn't true tho
My CA 2011 CVO Ultra Glide SE110 dyno'd at 97/113 lbs.ft @ rear wheel with Power Vision tune. V&H exhaust, monster ovals, K&N air filter...nothing else. With cams, compression, porting...115-120 hp and 125-130 torque is easy
In California, thinking about this will give you cancer.
It’s only an issue if you’re trying to be legal right? Is there a yearly inspection or something?
I got a stock twin cam 110 with a 2into1 by SP concepts and my tuner got it to push 102 hp and 124tq
I have a 21 114 468 red shift cam ported heads stock exhaust no cat push rods roller s+s rockers American Speed and machine tune on the Dyno with Drew making 135 tork 139 hp heads make all the difference and the right tune good to 6500 hundred comes on at 1800 hundred the best tuner in Calif
My 107 with star racing 30/30 cam made 110hp 115tq and could of got better numbers with better pipe and air cleaner but runs strong for cam only 💪🏼 Jaun should definitely give lance his run for his money after cam
You can leave the stock tune and remove the speed limiter with the V&H FP3...
BUT PLEASE DO A VID of how to adjust fuel to air manually when ya find out
I have a 114 with a Harley Power Cam and Screaming Eagle slip ons. I also have Low Rider St stock, and they are close.
What tuner are you guys gonna put after adding cams? TTS or Dynojet?
Dam the food looks great
I’d recommend doing a Dyno jet powervision for both bikes if you can the cvo too. I had it on my 18 fatbob and it made over 121 HP after a 465 cam. I have a 22 RG (same as Juan now) but in reef blue. Will be caming and using the powervision. Fuel pack isn’t a great tuner past pipes and air cleaner
Post your dyno sheet. On a 107 that 465 averages 100 to 107 hp. Average tq is 120...
🔥🔥🔥🔥
Sounds like bang for your buck the 107 wins all day.
lets do this!!!
Nice one, I have a 107 my self, let's see what the cams will do. Good night from Germany guys.
Cheers from America!
In Deutschland?
Lass die Finger davon.
Es ist und bleibt leider illegal.Deine Maschine läuft zwar besser, aber ohne Betriebserlaubnis.
Weiterhin weiß niemand, wie lange sie dann noch hält.
06 fxdbi 95' S&S big bore with S&S 585 cams. 85hp/93tq.
OK, THIS SHOULD BE GOOD. JUAN TAKING HIS BIKE ON THE JOURNEY OF PERFORMANCE MODS WITH A STEP BY STEP MODIFICATION, ALL THE 107 GUYS QUESTIONS ON PERFORMANCE MODS CAN BE ANSWERED WITH THE COMPARISON WITH BIGGER CUBED ENGINES, YES WE ALL KNOW THER IS NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT, BUT HOLD ON ,SOME MAY THINK BEFORE I LITTERLY THROW AWAY WHAT I JUST BOUGHT AT THE DEALER I MAY WANT TO USE UP THE TOP END A LITTLE BEFORE GOING BIG, MAYBE I WANT TO DO CAM'S AND HEADS AND INTAKE RIGHT NOW THEN GO BIG AFTER I PUT SOME MILES ON THE OLD GIRL
Do you think you could fit a Chigee AIO-5 lite in a lowrider st fairing?
What seats did you guy use during the trip to sturgies
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Feuling 543 cams in my 103” dyna makes 91hp/107tq to the tire!
Good to know it’ll at least keep up with a stock M8 107!
Nice!!
my 95t.c
103hp 103tq.
@@harleyhawk7959 sounds like a hell of a runner! Head work and possibly a throttle body too I’m assuming?
@@chevyon37s heads, throttle body, 10.5 pistons. 543 geared cams,
You guys need a real tuner like a Dynojet Power vision 3 or a Thundermax. Or get whatever fueling uses.
Fuel packs are horrible took my dyna Chris Rivas very knowledgeable with Harley’s held records in a number of things and it had the fuel map so bad that he was worried it may have damaged the engine he told everyone not to use them I would really think about getting rid of them
That the 9.5” pull back riser ?
Thinking damn hard about that setup the 107 dude has
It is! Check out the bike check we have form a few months back to see how Juan has this entire bike set up!
Juan and Lance..... compare, CLOSELY, the area under the curve, before and after the Feuling cam and exhaust mod and SkunkWorks tune from 2000 rpm to 4000 rpm from your BASELINE TUNE and STOCK exhaust. You should have a clean, stock dyno reading, everything bone stock, with a exhaust pipe with adequate back pressure, and what you get afterwards with all the mods, HP and torque#s. You should tune for where you run the rpms the most. Passing is such an insignificant % of time that you use all a cam offers. You should also baseline your fuel consumption, pencil and paper, with MPG's both before and after. I am betting you're going to suck a LOT more gas and have a lot less range if your stage 2 cam is anything lumpier than a 465, say a 475 or a 3/4 grind street / race cam. Not sure if you or the business is paying your fuel bills on photo shoots, vs is it on your dime when you fill up. Hard to say, since the Vlog is a business, and what gets claimed as business expenses. Peak numbers torque and HP are for the drag strip and bragging / dick dragging contests. Use that Engineering degree you got there.
Back pressure ? Laughable
Show us amateurs what can be done with the Fuel Pak. It’s always getting shitted on but obviously has its place.
What was the RPM at max torque with stock tune? It looks like it would be 2.7 to 3.0 RPM.
TTS is that the Thundermax?
Holy shit!!!!
What exhaust is Juan running on his bike is it the Vance & Hines 2 into 1 Pro pipe, and if it is is he happy with that exhaust
It is! He seems happy with it. Go check out his bike check video on our channel from a few months back to see the full break down of the bike!
fast and furious with tacos
Manufacturer pretty much always set their speedo to read faster than actual speed. It keeps people from blaming Manufacturer for speeding tickets. I think I herd its actually illegal for them to read less than. For same reason.
My fjr came from the factory with 154 HP and with the top box and everything on it it goes 0-100 in six seconds flat.wonder what it would do with cams and ported head exhaust turbo and all that crap like 400 HP LoL.
Only one way to find out!
So what is the top speed in mph
I was told Harley speedos were about 5 miles faster then they should be even with my 2004 Electra Gluide
Yes, they are.... and they are 3.5 to 5% faster logging miles on your odometer, too. Which means when your odometer reaches 5250 miles from the last oil change, you've really traveled barely 5000 miles. Confirmed via GPS and Google Maps numerous times on my M8 softail.
B.S.
Part of your gas mileage issue is you speedometer being so far off. Your odometer and trip are way off too. Juan should be able to calculate indicated mileage vs true mileage based on the mph difference in indicated speed vs speed over ground assuming the speed difference is constant and not variable across the sweep.
wonder if the 117 from the lowrider would fit Juans bike
Unfortunately, softail and touring frames have different engine mounts. I'm sure he could probably fabricate something to make it work though.
dont waste your time and money my 107 streetbob did 122mph before the stage 1 and the same after 3500 quid stage 1 there is a limiter in it some where you get a bit more pick up but thats it
You guys need to check out this taco spot!
Brothers Cousins
11341 National Blvd
Los Angeles
Will do!
Hey buddy how much is cost tune bike and address please. Thanks
Sadly, they are not open to the public!
472 Reaper is ground to complement the 117 with the 4.5" stroke.Both bikes are nice, however the 107" is always going to be sucking hind tit, unless you split the cases.4.3/8" stroke.👍
You guys just proved the vane and Hines fuel packs are poo
Did you know Allen is the guy who built, helped design and dynoed, the W3 when he worked for Jim Fueling, when he was in Ventura. And he raced pro flat track. 2:50 2:50
It’s allllll in the vlog
Some changes are no better then stock..i watch spending on improved performance..that does not improve my performance..that pisses me off..45 Tx
If lance doesn’t put a cam in the 117”…
LM002 Lamborghini
OMG, you guys are the best... love yous. I would love to ride with yous one time for sure. Does your friend there do other bikes on the dyno...need my done here. I'm I So Cal either that I am heading to Vegas to get it done. Thank guys keep up the great work!
Why don’t you guys just put the 117 that you took out of the ST project . Throw it in Juan’s RG ??????
Different cases
Stop messing around and put a 590 cam in both bikes 😂
Peace ✌️😎
😂
Did I just see Juan eating a lettuce wrapped burger?
😂😂 glad someone saw it
My 138hp 124CI gets better mileage than that 117, my 107 made 74hp stock
Pull the trump card and turbo the cvo😂
103 better, because 117 its sport motorcycle.
I used to have a FP3 and my mechanic said they all go in the trash can after he does a dyno on bikes. They can cause some serious issues.
All of our bikes we have built we use TTS. This is all part of the test 🤝
LANCE LOOKING OLD WITH THAT BEARD GROWING LOL 😅😅
Well that gives me a piece of mind with V & H fuel pack...I run the fp3 on my late model dyna and have seen both good n bad reviews for them🤘🛵