Schwintek Slide Room Only Moves 2 Inches And One Motor Stops -- My RV Works
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Dave has an issue with his Schwintek Slide Room moving 2 inches and then one slide room motor stops. It isn't giving an error code after it stops. What could be the issue?
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Topic: Slide Room Only Moves Two Inches and One Motor Stops Working
System: Schwintek / Lippert
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Everybody that has a Schwintek slide room needs to watch this video. Good job Darren.
Well damn..... I had to push as hard as I could to get it a couple more inches out while I ran the motor. Then I went out and lubed the little I could get to. Then pulled it back in. Pushed like hell again as I ran the motor- got a little further out and I lubed it again. Did that a couple times then the motors synced up and now it works like it always did. Truth be told I stopped lubricating about a year ago because I heard the manufacturer said not to lube this brand- well I'm gonna listen to the results. Thanks man!!! Saved my first trip and probably a few hundred to a thousand dollars on a mobile mechanic
Thank you for your videos I've learned a lot about my new RV.. I did have a problem with my slide from not going out even.. now they the dealer said to never lube the slide . But it makes sense putting a Teflon spray on it to make it easier on the system... Being a mechanic I know about friction and the problem it causes... I'm a fan of your video's.
My Schwintek slide has been noisy and giving me grief for 3 years and simply lubricating the rails as Darren shows in this video completely cured the problem. Much quieter and synched up first try! Amazing!! Thanks Darren!
Just want to say this video saved our bacon today!! 😅 Our slide would only go out a few inches, and we tried everything we could think of and it didn’t work - until we used the lubricant. Thank you so much!!
Wow!! I learned something today!! Let the motors amp out I have never done that before, I was always anticipating the end of the track. Not any more and out comes the can of lubricant, the first thing I will do when the cover comes off the trlr is to lube my tracks because my slide squeals like hell. Thanks for the information.
You are my hero! My wife an I are from the Chicago area. On vacation now, we traveled from Gettysburg PA to Philadelphia this morning with a slide open about 4 inches because it would not retract completely. The slide seemed to catch on one side during retraction and kind of twisted the room until the other side "amped out". Lubed the slide mechanism as you suggested and the problem disappeared immediately!!! Did I mention that you are my hero? ;) Thanks for your expertise!!!!
Thank you! I followed your other Schwintec video and lubricated my slides and they work so much better. I also understand how they work and what to do if they get stuck. No instructions of any kind from my trailer manufacturer. Again, thanks for your videos they are really helpful.
I do the exact same thing! I clean with WD-40, let dry throughly, then lube the shoe track, (not the teeth), dibs, and rollers with Bo-Shield T-9. It has PFE technology and leaves behind a waxy film. I support your position Darren. Lubricate as environment calls for. Check periodically.
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We were just ready to pull out of our driveway and tried bringing in our slide out and it was trying to go in on one side and not the other. We did what he said to do. Wow it worked great! We didn't know to keep pushing the button after it was in or out and we lubed the slides. Thank you so much!!! We were able to go after all!
That's great! Thanks for letting us know the video helped!
Thank you Professor!
I know my customers value your platform because when they get in a pinch because of my schedule they look at it and find answers.
Blessings!
THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! I returned from a trip yesterday and my bedroom slide wouldn't go back out. It was completely twisted. I tried the re-timing method, I tried the "override method" and nothing was working. I actually already had a can of RV Slide lube sitting around but I didn't think to try it. This video helped me learn where to lube and how the slide actually moves. I was finally able to work it back and forth and get my slide out all the way. I then resynced the motors and it's working like new again! (For now, haha)
I don’t have slide outs, I have never had slide outs, but understood exactly what you were talking about. Great explanation
Always great advice and really nicely explained! Thank you so much for your great videos. We have had this problem a few times with bedroom slide and syncing it as you described usually fixes it. I will start using the power lube as you recommend and hold slide button till controller turns it off!
Regards,
Kathy
Thank you!!!!!
Our side would not go in on a Sunday in the middle of nowhere. No one was able to help us ran across this video. Tried it!! It worked perfectly. You save the day and now we are new subscribers. Bless you. !
Thank you! Was having issues with slide not traveling smooth or evenly. Because I did not know, I had lubed with white lithium spray grease.
After this video, I spent time with brake cleaner to clean tracks, before applying the CRC power lube w/PTFE.
"Much Gooder!" 🙂
I had exactly the issue you describe, Darren. One side got stuck, and overall, the slide seemed to work much harder than in the beginning, but no error messages on the slide controller board. I must confess that I did boondock with the slide out during several sandstorms in Utah, before the resistance started. I was able to get the slide out and in when I repeatedly pressed the button to start the process, but it didn't feel good at all, and I just left it in until I got home. Anyways, I blew out the slide tracks with compressed air, but still had the slide movement resistance. I then bought the CRC Lube you recommended and greased the parts of the tracks and the roller you indicated - on all four tracks. It immediately worked and the slide slips out and in like new. I tried at least 20 times since lubing it, and it never hesitated to work. Thanks for making this video, Darren, and for sharing your knowledge!
Had the same problem with my brand new Salem. Lubed them up and all is good! Thanks for producing quality and thorough content!
As always great info, it’s always a part of my spring start up and maintenance program for my customers thanks
I know this is a ways past when this video ired but it just helped me fix our slide. We are scheduled to leve for over a month in the morning and our slide out started acting up. Your tips did the trick. Thanks gain!
Thank you Darren.
Your videos are especially helpful. I learned more about how my trailer's Dometic / Suburban / Schwintek / electrical systems work from YOU than any other videos I've watch or manuals I've read. My greatest fear when travelling with our trailer is having slideout problems. I'm headed out to my trailer right now to lubricate the Schwintek tracks !!
Bob in Grand Rapids, MI
Thank you for the sync tips!! We just bought this 2019 and you just fixed our first problem!
That's great! Thanks for letting us know the video helped!
My symptoms were very similar except my stop point was about a foot, I did as you prescribed and the results were stellar; noticeable improvement, thank you 🙏🏻
One of your best videos on the Lippert Schwintek "shitty" system. Finally I got a clarification of your term "amping out". I'm an electronics engineer by trade and I've never heard that term before.
You are my hero! My slide was very sluggish and barely could complete the whole move in and out. The lube job solved my issue and it's as good as new! I did find the CRC Power Lube hard to find, even on Amazon. I had to make a 40 mile round trip to Graingers Supply to find a can.
Thank you for this video. Our slide got out of sync because one side amping out and the slide would get jammed. We pressed the controller button 7 times to get it in override mode and got the slide out. We lubed the track in the video, synced the slide and we are back in business! You saved us time and money. Thank you!!!
My slide was going in and out uneven after watching your video it now works perfect. Thank you.
Thanks for this great tip!!! Had my bedroom slide get out of sync on mt 2015 Concord and never had this happen before. I lubed it like you said and did the steps to get it back in sync and it works great!!! Thanks again
I had a Lippert tech come to my trailer and he used that exact Lube on my slide. 😊 he also said count to 5 once the slide stops moving to maintain sync.
Great video as usual. I’m going to try this. My slide will go all the way in but as it approaches the closed position I hear some knocks. Hopefully cleaning the groove and lubrication will help. Tried syncing but still have the noise.
THANK YOU!!! Winnebago user here! This was only our second outing in our camper and your video allowed us to get our setup operational again! I had to stop our slide briefly to keep an object from getting trapped in the movement. Upon doing so it became out of sync and would only move in and out a couple of inches. Fortunately I looked up info before getting too excited and found your suggestion! Also fortunate that I had a can of very good spray lubricant in my truck! I would shake your hand if I could Sir!! VERY Thankful!!!
Just had this exact problem in my bedroom slide with a brand new Keystone Avalanche fifth wheel we just purchased, will try that tomorrow.
And I’m also guilty of releasing the switch once I think is in or out all the way, thinking I’m going to blow a fuse or strip a gear. The manufacturer states not to grease probably because grease holds dirt and sand causing premature wear in the geared section, exactly where you said not to Lube, great advice thanks a lot.
Update next day, lubed the 4 tracks and held the switch counting to 3, once it was in all the way and at the out positions as you stated, tried 3 times and works great so far. Thanks for the help.
I also lubricate the channels on the track with the same product. Never had a problem. But do understand that the lubricant will attract dirt. Was in Arizona desert during a sand storm. The sand and dust collected in the channels. So clean the channels frequently and before pushing the retract button when in dusty conditions.
Thanks for the advise to use the controller to amp out to keep the motors in properly in sync, indeed! The lippert recommendation on our version of the same slideout as on the one on the Jayco oddly enough is to always drive with powered on because the system is designed to prevent the slide from moving if powered on. At least in the lippert slideout manual that came with a 2016 on a Winnie Drop 1780 with a kitchen slideout.
I am on a trip right now experiencing this problem. Intuitively, my thinking was that , lubrication would cause slippage. So seeing this now as more of drawer closure versus a gear track, I understand lubricating the bearing surfaces. Also, no one described how the electric controls are designed. So the synchronization makes perfect sense relative to alignment and added friction drawing more current. Will experiment when home, but thank you for the enlightenment.
Thanks so much! Bought the spray you recommended. Cleaned my slide rails to get dried up grease off and then lubricated exactly how you said and poof it worked! Thanks again.
Lippert replaced the complete schwintek systems on both of my living room slides this fall at a rally. After the install was complete, one of the techs brought me a can of this same CRC lubricant and said "you didn't get this from me".
How much did it cost you?
Invaluable. This worked like a charm! Saved a tech call, we could all use a little success in our DIY fixes!
I agree with you - had a brand new Grand Design Imagine 2400BH with the Schwintek on a dinette and refrigerator slide seize up and wouldn't open. Got a warranty claim in and the service tech told me to use the CRC with PTFE and it worked well enough until I got everything replaced. Will keep a can in my tool bag in the future. Grand Design now puts a rack & pinion slide on the Imagine 2400 starting this year (2023 model). Mine's a 2022. Go figure.
Thanks, Darren for the slideout tip
Darren, you're right on with this video! It worked for my slide out. Thank you 😊
My slide would go out about 5”-6” and one side would stop.
(1 year old Grand Design)
So I tried Darren’s suggestions. Now it works perfectly. After it I got it work l lubricated it with power lube.
Thanks.
Now I need to find a video about to fix awnings that won’t retract. 🙁
Always great insights and advice…thanks!
I appreciate your informative channel. I haven't had to make repairs to my KZRV yet. When I do I'm sure I'll refer to your channel
Thanks for the video, it was what my issues were and now working.
Thank you so much! Everybody says Lou or don't lube the slides but they never say you got to put it in that little channel where the shoe is!
Thank you so much. Just had the very same problem. Did as you said took care of it.
Just fixed ny Lance/ Schwintec instantly by taking your advice! Thank You!!!
Darren, Thanks for all the advice and insight on the Schwintek system. I am in the market for an RV and the brand I am leaning towards uses them. After reading posts on Facebook, ( I mean where else do you go for an overwhelming amount of horror stories?? LOL) I was basically sick to my stomach wondering if this was the right way to go for me, but after watching all your videos on these I feel confident in moving forward with the purchase possibilities. I do have the mechanical abilities to perform the maintenance and repairs and confident I won't get caught somewhere with my slide out! Thanks again for your videos and advice!
That is helpful thank you, something I've noticed on mine is that when the battery is low they are more likely to get out of sync.
You do fabulous work ! Keep up the good work
Excellent. Exactly what I needed to know about Lippert slides
Thanks, I really appreciate your videos. I have actually been lubricating that part even if Lippert said not to, it made the whole system work much better. Since I started doing it the slide goes in and out without any of the knocking sounds it was making even when new. The two motors are perfectly synchronized and I always wait three seconds or more both on opening and closing. Any case I have a small problem which I don’t know how to fix: my slide is not that big, about eight feet or so, but when I close it one side is very close to the wall while the other is about half inch out. Practically, the good side squeezes the rubber gasket, the other barely touches it.
Looks like I would need to “turn” one motor a tiny bit more in order to complete the closing, but I don’t know if it’s even possible… I would really appreciate your opinion…
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It needs to be adjusted, not synced. Two different processes. Good luck
Excellent explanation of what to do and what not to do. Do you have any videos showing how to replace the bearing block?
Great, expert advice!
Thanks Darren!
It definitely works easier lubed. I agree, the lube you use is critical. It is easy to slop oil on something, you just don't want to create a dirt and grit magnet. I worked in industry, to lube or not is not an uncommon argument on some equipment.
Great video, and a great series. Haven’t gotten through all of them yet so maybe you have addressed my question elsewhere?
But, I am looking for your recommendation for lube/protection product for the slide room gaskets and seals.
Thanks, Steve
Hi Steve, you can find this on our Amazon storefront: www.amazon.com/shop/myrvworksinc
good job Darren!!!
I learned where to put the lubrication from your video..very critical..thanks.. 2021 jayco 30z.. Lake Charles, Louisiana
Thanks for posting this vid! Should you lube when your Rv is new or wait awhile when it starts acting up?
For some reason I was under the impression once the room was out or in I had to release the slide control once the motors started to bog in concern I would ruin the motors. I see that I was wrong. Glad I watched this even though I have racks.
I have not had a problem yet, but I do have the CRC spray, and will lube er up during spring startup. Thanks, Darren! I just realized where your music is from - Undercover Boss!!
Fantastic video. Great info. Thank you.
Darin my sild system die now wanting on dealer to repair it .Talked to lipperts this moring and stree to them. Their system are failing do to no lubrication on the rail and not handling road vibration .The tech took it seriously and was going to bring it up on next meeting if it helps. I hope so keep up the great video I have learned more from you then dealer ship and will always refer to your video for help after this slide is fixed
Had a Schwintek slide on the previous TT.
It worked as per specs ONCE. Then for the next 4 years the controler was always showing a Sync error. Was able to in & out perfectly with the emergency mode on the controler.
Did change the controler, motor & cable and tried every trick documented that I could find.
Up to when upon the dealer tech inspection on the exchange for a new Jayco.
When the tech saw the issue he said " Yes happens all the time, the motor connector is junk, we do remove the connector & solder the wires re-sync & problem fixed"
Gosh!
Ps the original controller pc board was missing the surface mounted switch to enable the emergency mode, called LCI and support sais "It was impossible that can happened on their boards" so no support & no hope for exchange, had to purchase my own new controler.
So too badbut I do not like Lippert too much since then.
Yep--we've debated the lubrication topic at length on GD's technical forum. I've taken Lippert's training class (and I've been to the institute in Elkhart) so for quite awhile I parroted the Lippert guidance. Over time, based on the input of others and practical experience on my own trailer, I've changed my mind. The lubricant you are using is also my "go to" for almost everything on the trailer. Good stuff.
Also--folks should clean the shoe track prior to lubricating.
You teach me something everytime Darren. Thank you
Thank you! Trying it soon. Makes sense 🤓
Good Information
If I had known! I was just in joyce when mine broke. I got it all the way in but I'm gonna try to see if warranty will cover it
The other issue that happens is a cracked magnet on one of the motors. Then the computer can't count the revolutions correctly via hall effect and times out. It will still spin in time periodically, making you think the lube has helped.
You can open the motor carefully and use a some thin plastic cut into a disc and laminate it to the cracked magnet with some epoxy. Works good as new. I've done this as a field repair on a reflection 317 I rebuilt.
Look into this if you have this issue.
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 Thanks for the tips. I haven't had an issue but I am that much more educated if I do. Great video
Thanks!
Thanks much for the good info. The title of this video is that the slide goes out 2 inches and one motor stops. This is happening to me. I wish you would have given some info with to resolve that issue.
You are a life saver! Thanks! Exactly the problem I was having.
After watching I dicided to try something . When the right side ended up about 8 ins out further than the left side I unplugged the left side , pushed button the right side caught up to the left side. Went the rest of the way out , in and out again the way it should.
Great video. 🤟
So Lippert had a bunch of schwintecs go out with plastic glides. Causing this same issue. Typically one side is worse than the other and the rooms get out of sync and eventually jam and don’t move. They have a repair kit for it. Tracks and bearing blocks
We just had a unit in for something unrelated and the room motor popped out. After taking it apart we found the shaft above the clip was 1/8 too long so the motor would not set down in block it was held in only by the screw that is supposed to keep it from lifting up. Apparently it was worked on by our dealership at another location. The owner said it had not been working right
Rooms are built out of tolerance sometimes too and eventually the binding wears the motors out
So if your RV is new take it to the dealership and have it looked at. These rooms will work just fine and then bind up and no amount of lube will fix them
If it’s an older unit. Lubing(cleaning) the groove and wheels can help. If the motors are worn out, they might need replaced
Have to check the floor too. Water damage and the rollers sink and now the weight is on the tracks not the rollers,or swell and push up
It’s a light system. Not much tolerance for being out of measurement
And of course if it’s out of time (top and bottom not even distance from wall) you have to disassemble and retime Chances are if out of time you will need a repair kit as the track or gear are chewed up.
I will definately be trying this, I had issues with my slide this past week at a resort in Nashville, had a tech to come out and he said it may be the motors...but after watching this I have hope that it may not be. Hopefully this will work...he did say it was giving an fault/error code of 5 excessive current??
Hello, I came across this video while trying to find one to help me fix my small bedroom slide out. I have an 07 Dutchmen Tundra 27FK. My big hydraulic living room slide out works perfect but my smaller bedroom one has tipped to one side a couple of inches and when I have to put it out it’s scraping on the bottom and tearing the material on the bottom. Can you please help me figure out why it’s tipped to one side. It’s now leaning to the right. You are so knowledgeable on these trailer issues and your video’s are so easy to understand. Thank you for making them for us. ❤
I had an issue where one side would stop shortly after engaging the slide out. It turned out to be the batteries in the end, even though they were fully charged they were unable tk supply the current needed for both motors simultaneously.
I would love to see an instructional guide on how to manually push the system in if over needed
Try unplugging the motor #1 & the motor #2 wiring harnesses from the controller box. It should push in without to much difficulty. Good luck
Thank you for your advice
You're welcome
I learned something new: let the motor stop the slide-not your finger. Thanks
Thanks for this. Im a mechanic and it blew my mind hearing dont lube it.
Thanks - learned a lot about my slides thanks to your videos! Quick question - what’s the easiest way to access under the slide? Can’t be done from the outside? I use a thin piece of wood on the inside to try to remove items that get under but I fear there are items keeping my slide from completely closing and don’t know the best way to check.
cool video. thanks
Great job
Thanks. We were in the area in 2018 and had what we though was a leak and came to you and you walked in and looked at our windows and said there lies the problem, moisture. You showed us how to cure the issue and you hung around and talked to my Mom and us a while about the Lord and we have never forgot you sir. I ran across your video and told wife looks it the man who came to us when we were returning from Alaska. We had a Vanleigh/Vilano. We were the Songers by the way from NC. We have never forgot your great hospitality and your love for the Lord Jesus Christ.
How do you stop the moisture issues in an rv?
@@BBaker916 we run our bathroom fan on low. Its keep the moisture off the windows and in the attic.
OMG -- Ugh -- never read anyone with a more desperate need to get a life! :(
This is why I specifically watched for our 5th wheel with hydraulic slides.
I agree with lubricant, would a dry lube be better because it doesn’t collect dust & sand from wind?
We recommend the CRC lubricant, which you can find in our Amazon Store: amzn.to/3JidtQg
This just saved me a ton of BS with the dealer -- thank you!!!
how about a follow-on question to this: what is the best way to clean the tracks before lubrication? given the blocks are plastic of some sort, brake cleaner is likely not an option. Any recommendations?
I would try compressed air
I have a 2023 reflection 280rs, with the token schwintec slide on the kitchen Fridge, stove etc. as a snowbird. Parked for several months, should I lube the guides n run the slide in n out a few times. Once a month or once every couple of months. Same with the living room slide. (It’s the roller style or screw Jack whatever the proper name is for that slide??). Thx. 😊
I stumbled upon this video on our last trip out because our slide wasn’t extending properly. I didn’t have the CRC lune with me, but I did have some LPS greaseless lube on hand and sprayed that on the rails and after retracting and extending the slide a few times the slide started working flawlessly. Anyway I have since ordered the CRC lube. In your opinion will the LPS cause harm to the the rails, and should I try to use some type of cleaner on the rails before spraying the CRC on them? Thank you for any and all input.
You just earned a subscriber buddy, I'm going to order some up and give it a try, my slide isn't tracking even and needs to sync up
How do you get to the slide tracks to lubricate them when the slide only moves 2 inches in or out before amping out?
@@bradw1261 I also had to sync up the slide out motors using the button on the slide out controller. Luckily my slide was already all the way out. There are videos on here that will show you how to do that
Great video..
I have to say i watch all your videos, I get a lot out of them and the information I've learned has save me tons of labor costs. But I ran into a Schwintek slide on my rig, that only 1 side moves (motor 1). Next, looking at the controller I get a Motor 2 short fault (6 beeps). I did the override and still only the 1 side moves. Next, I tried to manually push the slide out (unplugged both motors from controller) and can't move the bad end of the side. Some extra information, it sounds like it's trying to move the slide, but it just won't move. The slide is about 2 inches from ceiling and the side wall with it all the way in so I can't get to the motor or H rail to remove the slide from the outside or inside. I've tried to get the slide trim off and just succeeded in breaking the trim. I would have thought the trim would have been nailed on like you have demonstrated. Got any ideas on how to proceed? I'm stumped.
I have this exact issue on ours. Did you ever figure out what the issue was? Sometimes when we wiggle a wire it will all of a sudden start working. But it’s a hit or miss on that.
I'm in the same boat
@@xevnoc I had a bad motor, best of luck. Recommend getting the test wire min 5 ft. Helped with the troubleshooting.
Thanks!!
You bet!
Do you have any experience with power gear slide out drives. I have a 2008 Winnebago outlook that the living room slide, will mostly stop part way out (not in) and not every time. And sometimes not at all until I manually give it a crank.
Any suggestions.
And I love Salt Creek, I’m one of those guys from across the water
Thanks
I wish my Palomino Columbus had the track system on my slide-outs. Mine seems to have large screws from underneath. I've brought my slides in/out several times and held the switches to re-sync but both my largest slides are not going all the way out. From inside trailer, the tops of the frames are touching the walls but the bottoms have gaps over 1" to 1-1/2" (crooked) and not sealing. The winter wind enters around gaps and I've tried jamming insulation to help stop the air leaks and bugs from entering but still doesn't help. I got underneath open slides to look for manual controls but still haven't found them in an attempt to force the slides to full extension to seal the gaps and fully compress the bulb weather stripping. The slides are nice for the extra space they provide but boy are they a pain in the you know what when they don't operate as intended.
Hey i was watching an old video on the thermistor you had and wondered if you could help. I have a 2011 springdale by keystone with a 2009 built dometic fridge , about three years ago i started living in it and recently i defrosted the fridge and freezer and now the fridge wont stop freezing my, EVERYTHING. I have my thermistor wire in my plastic holder on the right fin bnc thats where the sticker is and its still freezing everything. prior to defrost i didnt know what the wire was so i had it in the drip pan and it worked fine. but no that doesnt work. could i have made my thermistor go out or something else?