@@wal question! I’m running 2 8w7 in a ported box, which amp would be best for these woofer? I’ve read that jl 500.1 but it’s quite expensive is there anything decent in $200 range?
I run a JL Aduio XD 600 / W6 setup in one vehicle and love it. Decided to go a little cheaper on another vehicle and went with the Alpine S-A60M / S-W10D4 setup and I was honestly blown away by how well it performed. It performed so well that I purchased the same Alpine setup for someone else and they couldn't believe the results either. Alpine makes very good products that are budget friendly.
No doubt and this is one of the newest model Alpines I’ve seen made in Korea since the 90’s. Everyone of these and most several more of the newer ones are made in China. They have been a long time. But this A60M I have is a Korean model. first time I’ve seen in Korean made on an alpine since the later 90’s
when I was into car audio from 1995 - 2003 or so I found the Alpine V12 series really good amps! Used them with DLS speakers, made a really nice combo!
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Big D, I found the comments you made about what the average consumer wants at the beginning of the video to be very interesting. I'm 64 years old. I purchased my first car in 1978 for $500 and spent $500 on the audio system, which I installed myself. 2 6X9 coax in the rear parcel shelf, 5 1/4 coax in the doors, and a 10-inch woofer in a box I made myself from wood I scavenged from a construction site in the trunk. A Pioneer in-dash AM/FM Cassette and an Audiovox (I think) 'power amp' EQ under the dash. When I cranked the volume, there was more hiss than the snake house at the local zoo. Distortion? Maybe 20%, if not more. Now I drive a small SUV with an upgraded factory audio package. It sounds better than the audio system in my living room, most likely because the car components were carefully engineered to the car's body, turning it into a giant speaker box. Size and cost do matter, but skillful engineering matters more, no upgrades from me needed, much to my wife's relief. 😄
As an Alpine fan/user since the late 80’s I can attest to them never skimping on quality components or build quality. Back in the day if you wanted Alpine on a budget you could shop the few dealers who carried them for customer returns. Back then Alpine did not automatically credit retailers for returns so their stuff would actually go to the Alpine service center in SoCal for testing if a customer brought it back. The benefit to the customer was that these items would come back with a bench test report, which meant their amplifiers came with an actual hand written “rebirth sheet”. These reports revealed that their amps at the time were consistently underrated by around 20%.
Man I built a 90s alpine based sound system for my 89 Mercedes’ 560, ran a alpine 3da headunit with a 12 disk changer (and 3 disk cartridge in the HU) running through a 3343 graphic equalizer and then to a alpine v12 5 channel amplifier and a Sony 2 channel, ran 4 sets of blaupunkt 3 way component speakers and a Rockford fosgate punch subwoofer. The Sony amp drove a set of beefy Clearwater headrest speakers with independent volume control. It was clean and Loud with minimal distortion and man the clarity was insane
@@12pagani In the early 90’s I built a system in my ‘69 Ford Thunderbird using all Alpine except for the speakers. I don’t remember the model numbers but it had one of the better CD head units, a dual zone equalizer, and an active crossover for the subs. I had a 60 watt 2 channel driving a set of Polk Audio 6.5” separates and a bridged 100 watt 2 channel driving 4 Redline 8” subs. Only the head unit and equalizer were bought for the Tbird because nothing Alpine I ever bought ever broke. I regret selling all that stuff when I sold that car.
I’ve been running an Alpine PDX1.600 for some years now, and it’s been great, other than the power terminal stripping out. That amp was a huge deal for me when I was younger and got it used in a trade because I know it sold originally for right around $1 per watt. The 600w regardless of having a 2 or 4 Ω load is very interesting as well. It still cranks out the power in my car to this day. Always been an Alpine fan. Also, back when subs weren’t requiring a thousand watts just to move, this 600w was a beast. It’s been hooked up to a pair of JL 12W6v2 (600w rms each) and pushes them greatly. Not a competition build by any means but I have it turned down a couple notches even at that.
For my personal setup I have an Alpine S-A60M with a kicker L7S 12 in the loaded enclosure from Kicker and this little amp puts out a lot of power and my sub is thundering. People think I have 2 12s or that I have a 1500+ watt amp but I show them everything and they are extremely surprised to see that little amp making my subwoofer hit that hard. I got buddy’s who have skar audio 12s with a 2000 watt amp and there setup cannot compete with mine. Efficiency and clean power is all you need for your setup to hit hard!!!!
@@snicklefritz11gaming24 these amps are rated for 600rms at 1 ohm and 2 ohm so I wonder if they changed it since he did this video or he missed that all together
I own roughly 11 Alpine amps, and just became an authorized retailer. I always recommend Alpine for consistent lower output builds, and I'm rarely disappointed with their quality.
Not a bad looking amp. If I were spending around $200 and trying to stay stock, I would personally get something like a JP8 for the additional power and that handy bass knob with clip light. Alpine amps are usually pretty nice and this one doesn't look like an exception. 600w can get louder than a lot of people realize.
I just put one of these in my 4runner along with a 10" Type S in the Halo box and it sounds excellent. I was planning on buying another 10 and the linking bracket but now I'm thinking I'll just keep it as is. Sounds perfect to me.
Bigdwiz I love this content right here. This is everyday average guy relevant. Would love for you to introduce people to entry level jbl/infinity. I have no relationship with them, but the products are incredible.
I have this amp with a single low powered 12” DD Audio sub in a sealed box. It’s perfect for me and sounds great. It has reliably served me for the past five or so years.
Hey Big D remember the Alpine MRP-M2000 and then later the MRX-M240 ? Those were alpines biggest amps ever made. I have five of the MRX-M240’s. These amps made a lot of power without the need of electrical upgrades. Not sure why Alpine stoped producing them. Would love to send you one to test.
In the end, most people just want a lil bump & volume that can be heard from a few cars away. With the prices of todays gear, it really doesnt take a whole lotta loot to get you there. I will say it does take a little more thought today than it used to, to integrate a good aftermarket system in modern vehicles.
I worry for the future of good systems in the "budget" folks . the What they make the systems in cars cant be swapped out, and the "premiums" they have in cars are still just ok, but cant really handke producing alot of lows . either manufactures need to incoperate better systems or just stop n let us do it lol.
@bigdwiz, wadup man. Great video as usual. Got two kicker comp c12s in the slot port kicker box. Since this has no subsonic filter, would this even work? Or should i do the rockford prime 500.1?
I have had this amp for six months. Initially pushing a single Memphis 12” in a ported box. After blowing that speaker I graduated to two Memphis 12” in a ported box. Moral of the story - this amp bumps. Bumps Hard.
Back in the days I was always in a budget and could never afford an Alpine or a Kicker Amp so I would settle for a Jensen. After a while I was able to get a Crunch Amp. They actually were pretty good for the price.
Glad you finally got to test this one. It quickly became one of my favorite amps and I ended up owning 4 of them, but no one had done any testing on it. It's basically the upgraded version of the MRV-M500 and if they had called this something that included "M600" it probably would've been even more popular, the name they chose doesn't let the average person know that it is a 600w amp. By the way, have you considered testing any headunit "power pack" type amplifier. I'm tempted in buying an Alpine KTP-445 since something that tiny and simple to install is rated at 45wx4, but the 15A fuse makes me skeptical.
I have the ktp-445U in my 19 Accord. Had it professionally installed with BESTBUY. I have it on 2 sets of dd audio components. Night and day difference over stock. STRONGLY RECOMMEND
Only Williston Audio can do this.....................................! Measure Wattage Post CrossOver. I would love to see a comparison of gross wattage input versus net wattage per driver driven after the crossover, preferably in a 3-way. Or maybe at 1 watt in, as a standard. I would think the difference would indicate a crossover efficiency, if there is such a thing. There's countless debate and plenty of guesses in the audiophile forums, but no one has the capability to test like Williston Audio. Thumbs up for a special request?
Good to see a review on this amp! Thanks dude! I almost got the S in a 4 channel, but got a smoking deal on the type R 4 channel which I'm sure performs as good if not better than the S. Love the Alpine stuff!
@@wal I feel like I'm talking to someone famous not going to lie! The main reason I bought a jp83 is because of your solid reviews that had me looking at the best options around. Myself and our crew believe in your wisdom on dam near any amp out there. Purchases proven in many builds have started with a solid trustworthy review. A dyno is a good way to get a solid idea what a guy is working with. I bet everyone has an amp they want to ask u to do 😆 🤣 Jk Thank you!
I've been using the 4/3/2ch s series alpine sa32f(55w X 4@4ohm/75w X4@2ohm/160×x2bridged@4ohm) running 2 6.5 Rockford punch(65w rms) components and 2 Rockford punch 6x9s(75w rms) all at 4 ohm Birth sheet included in mine says 98w at 2ohm. Most others I've seen always say 85w+. So a bit under rated and never gets more than luke warm to the touch after a long long drive of blasting music. Been running it almost 2 years and have had no problems. Paid $189 for it and it sounds great with my pioneer dmh220ex HU. Can't blame you for going with the R but if no deals atm for the type R the sa32f is absolutely a great last resort if you want something you know will sound amazing and be reliable.
Alpine has been always pretty good in my opinion. I've never needed a ton of power for the subs that I normally get. I don't buy them that often really because I still have some Boston Acoustics G1's that are still working pretty well for my needs.
I'm still waiting on that philips sound labs special edition old school amplifier dyno thanks for the dyno tho bud keep them dyno videos coming I love the fact you actually run your amps on a sub 👍
Hello my friend! Very good content. Have you considered doing some tests on the Helix M line amplifier brand ? Or the Helix D One monoblock ? Cheers!!!
Glad to see this amp being tested as I have one on my shelf, I always thought it was a great amp and sounded amazing for what it is. I'd love to see Sony's GS amps like the GS4 or GS400 that are both rated at 400x4 and their mono amp that I think is the GS1 that is rated at 700x1 put on the dyno.
Being an Alpine guy, love this video. Hope Big D gets an Alpine MRX-M110 amp to test. In my truck, I have 6 of them running at 2 ohms, 1100 watts, to 6 Skar Audio SDR D4’s. Also have one in my Jetta. And I have one in a cabinet for backup, lol.
I have a couple of setups, with this test I used (8) XS Power D1400 14V batteries in parallel with no charging during testing. I also have a massive LTO bank of XS Power/Yinlong Lithium cells for the bigger amps. My setup is mostly green since I don't need huge AC power to run my setups due to their massive capacities.
Good start Big D a lot of people aint trying to put a bunch of all that extra electrical upgrades for that expensive amps getting a like just for that start.
A lot of these bass heads don't think clearly all they want is a ton of wattage and a ton of bass they don't care if it's clear they don't care about the electrical system they don't care how long it lasts they only want to drive around with their trunk rattling Airheads
I have one of these , I’m glad to see a test on it. My birth sheet says 687 watts on their test. Let me bring something to your attention on this amp because I’m very curious. I see a lot of A60M’s out there and the majority say made it China, however mine happens to be a Korean model. Wondering if there is any difference in the two manufacturers and any components that might be Different as well. I would be incredibly interested in a test of the Korean Model A60M , next to the Chinese model and compare the two. Inside and to the Dyno test
I love Alpine amps. I'm using the MRP-M450 from 2006. I've never had an issue with it and I bought it used. It's only 400W at 2 ohms but it sounds amazing paired with 2 12" kickers. It has enough power to shake everything in the car and the pictures on peoples walls as I drive by. I also prefer the way it sounds over the pioneer 600W amp I have. Would love to try the S-A60M but I can't justify the $400 CAD just for a couple hundred extra watts of power. Also if possible, I would love to see the Alpine KTA-30MW Tough Power Pack tested. I think it would be the perfect thing for most people if they could sell it at a cheaper price.
I like how you explain things like the protect coming on and then off giving a bad read,but I still haven't heard you explain what's happening when a channel doesn't go up clean and jumps from 300-800 watts. I don't know why that's bad, like what's happening to the music during those jumps? Are they distorting? Clipping? What does it all mean
I have two SA60Ms and I'm gonna pair it with a Type R 12 in a ported box for my wife's car. The Type S is really good but I feel that tiny amp would do better with a Type R since my Type S is clipping at half gain. It'll do fine for me put in a sealed box for rock music. That SA60M really is a sleeper and it generates almost no heat.
Hi. Really appreciate all the great videos Bid D! Friend runs an Alpine R-A75M @ 0.5 ohm small sealed box in his ute (Two 10" type R dual 2 ohm all coils in parallel) We wired it @ 2 ohm initially but thought to try 0.5 ohm thinking it probably won't like it. Pushed very hard daily for about a year now, no issues sounds great and definitely much more output. His pioneer 8601 mono amp would pulse in and out of protect trying to drive the same 0.5 ohm wired sub at high output. Please test it! Cheers Paul G Melb. Australia 🙂
I'm a pro installer. We had one of these in an F250 and it kept going into protect randomly. We replaced it with a Rockford R500.1. I put the Alpine in my car and it's been working great for months. I don't know why it didn't like the ford
I am old school ....and I have been an alpine head unit loyal customer since the mid 90s ....just bought one for my 98 s10 project ....Alpine -CDE 172BT ....single din cd /multi media player bluetooth etc. And it comes with a front and rear rca plus subwoofer rca ....which is all I need running a 4 channel for mids and hi s and a mono amp for subwoofer....but I have never owned an amplifier from alpine ....used to really want what they use to call a flex 5 alpine amp it was a 5 channel but they were pretty expensive and at the time I was very much still satisfied and using and older Rockford punch 150 for my sub amp ....and a kenwood for midrange
I run that deck it's very nice, miles ahead of the old stuff we used to run. Only thing I don't like is the sub-out control you can't disable the crossover so an Epicenter is out, and it also acts as a bass boost above the middle point on the potentometer, which of course leads to clipity clip pretty easily. I just used one of the full rande outputs. Other than that, very nice.
I have the CXA8001 in my Ford Fusion. It crushes in there. Its rated 800 watts but the birth cert has it at 911 watts I cranked up the 'do it bump doh' section on my Klipsch Reference set. I thought my desk was gonna walk across my bedroom.
These Class D amps are the same design they've been selling since 2006, Alpine just keeps repackaging them in a new case every 5-6 years and bumping up the price on them. I'll pass. I still have my original Alpine MRP-M650 from 2006 sitting in a box that still works. It got retired after I replaced it with a 1000w JL Audio amplifier.
Alpine used to rate their amps wattages at 0.08% THD for 4Ohms a channel, and 0.3% for 2Ohms a channel or 4 Ohms bridged. It’d be interesting to see you test more of the old MRV T and M series (brushed aluminium ones) because at 1% THD, they’ll be way over alpines ratings.
Great video I always wondered why nobody don't test these types of amplifiers good seeing it pass. But in the future not sure if you can test ( JL audio 1000.1 amp ) I'll like to see how much they put out an bump 😁😁😁
Back in 2002 i had 2 10 inch kicker cvrs in a pre fab sealed enclosure powered by a Phoenix gold 500 watt amp. i had it in my dads 1999 Ford f150 single cab and let me tell you it got loud with the windows down you can hear me coming down the block and all i had was 500 watts probably less...like always I'm digging ur videos
Nice Video. i’d love to see the Dyno testing first in the videos( just my Opinion) of the Amps you review. Then go over all the features and guts at the end. save the 1ohm load or .8 ohm like you do at the end. just a few things that might help get people to watch more of your videos. thanks Derrick.
I like the new design because my old Alpine MRP 500.. the only reason I don't like the old design the cheap plastic broken off... others then that it's great Amplifier.. I have it's running one Alpine SWR 154d2 it's very loud 🔊🔊🔊 ahhhhhh
Do you think car audio will ever improve on sound quality? Most all the amplifiers sound the same. Low quality power supply only makes terrible crossover sound worse?
Ive had the Alpine MRV500 powering a canadian tire jbl 12" sub for the last ten years in my garage. Can this amp do more than that? All the subs ive been searching say 1200W 2000W 1800w are they fudging the numbers?long and short of it, Im looking for a sub that this amp was built for. any help would be appreciated
Good morning, I'm wondering if you ever came across a Nakamichi Gold Series amplifiers. Back in the day my system was a Sony receiver, Sony XEC 500 crossover, Boston Acoustics 6.5 Pro Series door speakers, 2 10 in. MTX Road Thunder Pro Series subs. For the amps I swear it was the Gold Series Naka 45 watts by 2 and MTX Road Thunder 100 watts x 2. It was installed in a brand-new 1990 F 150 regular cab 4x4. It sounded clean with no distortion and about 112 dbl. Thanks
Good review, I am definitely an Alpine fan boy but am perplexed by the Birth Sheet thing. I have owned and used mostly Alpine equipment over the years and am yet to be disappointed.
i went with the cxa 800.1 and for some reason my dual dvc 4ohm subs wired to 2ohm arent pushing mids.... its basically just dropping out. When wired to 1ohm, the amp cuts out at high volume so i wired to 2ohm and that solved that problem, but i still cant achieve any mids coming out of my subs (my rockford fosgate amp was able to send mids thru those same speakers). do you think its an amp issue, or tuning issue? should i get this amp instead?
I know I asked you already but I really want to know if you can do r3200.1d JC power amplifier. Reason why because I want to see if it's pushing the 1600 RMS that it's supposed to push I am running 1 12 American Bass XFL 1222 at 1ohms . But if it's not pushing my speaker . Maybe trying something else. Maybe you can let me know what amp I should try on my XFL. Thank you really appreciate these videos
You say it doesn't make the birth sheet. I don't understand. The amm-1 says 2794 @7:38. I also see that it says .1 ohm. But it also measures higher than 861 at different times above 2 ohms. Could you please elaborate more on the amm-1 or were you specifically going off the dyno? Thanks and keep doing you, I love it!
I need clarification from Alpine how they obtain the number on the birthsheet. Most companies use resistive loads and test tones to obtain the certified numbers. This amp was consistently putting out 1000W plus with the subwoofer on music
It is nice to see a long term brand not go to complete crap over the years.
Amen 🙏
@@wal question! I’m running 2 8w7 in a ported box, which amp would be best for these woofer? I’ve read that jl 500.1 but it’s quite expensive is there anything decent in $200 range?
@@lennyleejr7763 You can find the JL 500.1 slash series fairly cheap used on marketplace.
@@98wytebird And beat to crap the majority of the time.
I run a JL Aduio XD 600 / W6 setup in one vehicle and love it. Decided to go a little cheaper on another vehicle and went with the Alpine S-A60M / S-W10D4 setup and I was honestly blown away by how well it performed. It performed so well that I purchased the same Alpine setup for someone else and they couldn't believe the results either. Alpine makes very good products that are budget friendly.
It's nice to see Alpine still builds solid little amps after all these years.
Awe Jeah!
No doubt and this is one of the newest model Alpines I’ve seen made in Korea since the 90’s. Everyone of these and most several more of the newer ones are made in China. They have been a long time. But this A60M I have is a Korean model. first time I’ve seen in Korean made on an alpine since the later 90’s
when I was into car audio from 1995 - 2003 or so I found the Alpine V12 series really good amps! Used them with DLS speakers, made a really nice combo!
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Big D, I found the comments you made about what the average consumer wants at the beginning of the video to be very interesting. I'm 64 years old. I purchased my first car in 1978 for $500 and spent $500 on the audio system, which I installed myself. 2 6X9 coax in the rear parcel shelf, 5 1/4 coax in the doors, and a 10-inch woofer in a box I made myself from wood I scavenged from a construction site in the trunk. A Pioneer in-dash AM/FM Cassette and an Audiovox (I think) 'power amp' EQ under the dash. When I cranked the volume, there was more hiss than the snake house at the local zoo. Distortion? Maybe 20%, if not more. Now I drive a small SUV with an upgraded factory audio package. It sounds better than the audio system in my living room, most likely because the car components were carefully engineered to the car's body, turning it into a giant speaker box. Size and cost do matter, but skillful engineering matters more, no upgrades from me needed, much to my wife's relief. 😄
As an Alpine fan/user since the late 80’s I can attest to them never skimping on quality components or build quality. Back in the day if you wanted Alpine on a budget you could shop the few dealers who carried them for customer returns. Back then Alpine did not automatically credit retailers for returns so their stuff would actually go to the Alpine service center in SoCal for testing if a customer brought it back. The benefit to the customer was that these items would come back with a bench test report, which meant their amplifiers came with an actual hand written “rebirth sheet”. These reports revealed that their amps at the time were consistently underrated by around 20%.
love me some alpine
Man I built a 90s alpine based sound system for my 89 Mercedes’ 560, ran a alpine 3da headunit with a 12 disk changer (and 3 disk cartridge in the HU) running through a 3343 graphic equalizer and then to a alpine v12 5 channel amplifier and a Sony 2 channel, ran 4 sets of blaupunkt 3 way component speakers and a Rockford fosgate punch subwoofer. The Sony amp drove a set of beefy Clearwater headrest speakers with independent volume control. It was clean and Loud with minimal distortion and man the clarity was insane
@@12pagani In the early 90’s I built a system in my ‘69 Ford Thunderbird using all Alpine except for the speakers. I don’t remember the model numbers but it had one of the better CD head units, a dual zone equalizer, and an active crossover for the subs. I had a 60 watt 2 channel driving a set of Polk Audio 6.5” separates and a bridged 100 watt 2 channel driving 4 Redline 8” subs. Only the head unit and equalizer were bought for the Tbird because nothing Alpine I ever bought ever broke. I regret selling all that stuff when I sold that car.
I’ve been running an Alpine PDX1.600 for some years now, and it’s been great, other than the power terminal stripping out. That amp was a huge deal for me when I was younger and got it used in a trade because I know it sold originally for right around $1 per watt. The 600w regardless of having a 2 or 4 Ω load is very interesting as well. It still cranks out the power in my car to this day. Always been an Alpine fan.
Also, back when subs weren’t requiring a thousand watts just to move, this 600w was a beast. It’s been hooked up to a pair of JL 12W6v2 (600w rms each) and pushes them greatly. Not a competition build by any means but I have it turned down a couple notches even at that.
For my personal setup I have an Alpine S-A60M with a kicker L7S 12 in the loaded enclosure from Kicker and this little amp puts out a lot of power and my sub is thundering. People think I have 2 12s or that I have a 1500+ watt amp but I show them everything and they are extremely surprised to see that little amp making my subwoofer hit that hard. I got buddy’s who have skar audio 12s with a 2000 watt amp and there setup cannot compete with mine. Efficiency and clean power is all you need for your setup to hit hard!!!!
I know this is an old thread, but just put the exact same setup in my Tundra...you're 100% correct, sounds amazing for one 12 in a sealed box
@@snicklefritz11gaming24 these amps are rated for 600rms at 1 ohm and 2 ohm so I wonder if they changed it since he did this video or he missed that all together
@@Tjcin513This is the old model it was only rated down to 2 ohms the new version is rated as 1 ohm stable
Congratulations man u hit 300k that is amazing this is a pretty niche area of the internet, I think I have been here since 15k u have grown so much
Man I greatly appreciate you sticking with me over the years!
I own roughly 11 Alpine amps, and just became an authorized retailer. I always recommend Alpine for consistent lower output builds, and I'm rarely disappointed with their quality.
I bought this amp in 2020 paired with a Comp RT 12 enclosure. Hands down best budget set up.
Awesome 👏
Not a bad looking amp. If I were spending around $200 and trying to stay stock, I would personally get something like a JP8 for the additional power and that handy bass knob with clip light.
Alpine amps are usually pretty nice and this one doesn't look like an exception. 600w can get louder than a lot of people realize.
You will also need to upgrade your Electrical for that JP amp to take full advantage of it
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I just put one of these in my 4runner along with a 10" Type S in the Halo box and it sounds excellent.
I was planning on buying another 10 and the linking bracket but now I'm thinking I'll just keep it as is. Sounds perfect to me.
Bigdwiz I love this content right here. This is everyday average guy relevant. Would love for you to introduce people to entry level jbl/infinity. I have no relationship with them, but the products are incredible.
Thanks for the suggestion
I have this amp with a single low powered 12” DD Audio sub in a sealed box. It’s perfect for me and sounds great. It has reliably served me for the past five or so years.
I love your videos so much. When I see you've posted, I sit down in front of my 70 inch Samsung TV and enjoy and learn.
Thanks brother 👌
Hey Big D remember the Alpine MRP-M2000 and then later the MRX-M240 ? Those were alpines biggest amps ever made. I have five of the MRX-M240’s. These amps made a lot of power without the need of electrical upgrades. Not sure why Alpine stoped producing them. Would love to send you one to test.
Beasts!
In the end, most people just want a lil bump & volume that can be heard from a few cars away. With the prices of todays gear, it really doesnt take a whole lotta loot to get you there. I will say it does take a little more thought today than it used to, to integrate a good aftermarket system in modern vehicles.
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I worry for the future of good systems in the "budget" folks . the What they make the systems in cars cant be swapped out, and the "premiums" they have in cars are still just ok, but cant really handke producing alot of lows . either manufactures need to incoperate better systems or just stop n let us do it lol.
Never owned Alpine... the CD players seemed top notch back in the day.
Great amp test!
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7909. They're hard to keep going today but they sounded the best out of everything I ever had.
I love these little Alpine monoblock amps.
I'm running two of the older 500 watt units in two different vehicles and couldn't be happier.
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@bigdwiz, wadup man. Great video as usual.
Got two kicker comp c12s in the slot port kicker box. Since this has no subsonic filter, would this even work?
Or should i do the rockford prime 500.1?
I have had this amp for six months. Initially pushing a single Memphis 12” in a ported box. After blowing that speaker I graduated to two Memphis 12” in a ported box. Moral of the story - this amp bumps. Bumps Hard.
Fo sho!
Always stoked when I see you post…. Great vid 👌
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Fantastic video, keep up the great content and I hope you're felling better.
Thanks brother 👌
Back in the days I was always in a budget and could never afford an Alpine or a Kicker Amp so I would settle for a Jensen. After a while I was able to get a Crunch Amp. They actually were pretty good for the price.
Glad you finally got to test this one. It quickly became one of my favorite amps and I ended up owning 4 of them, but no one had done any testing on it. It's basically the upgraded version of the MRV-M500 and if they had called this something that included "M600" it probably would've been even more popular, the name they chose doesn't let the average person know that it is a 600w amp.
By the way, have you considered testing any headunit "power pack" type amplifier. I'm tempted in buying an Alpine KTP-445 since something that tiny and simple to install is rated at 45wx4, but the 15A fuse makes me skeptical.
Thanks for the suggestion
I have the ktp-445U in my 19 Accord. Had it professionally installed with BESTBUY. I have it on 2 sets of dd audio components. Night and day difference over stock. STRONGLY RECOMMEND
Only Williston Audio can do this.....................................!
Measure Wattage Post CrossOver. I would love to see a comparison of gross wattage input versus net wattage per driver driven after the crossover, preferably in a 3-way. Or maybe at 1 watt in, as a standard. I would think the difference would indicate a crossover efficiency, if there is such a thing.
There's countless debate and plenty of guesses in the audiophile forums, but no one has the capability to test like Williston Audio. Thumbs up for a special request?
Awesome channel and content! Amazon has these for 160 at the moment!
When you played the woofer test the SMD was regularly showing over 1000 watts. I was surprised you didn't comment on this during the video.
I was looking at the comments to see if anyone else saw that.
i saw that too, no comments though.
Yeah i was gonna say something cause I'm definitely getting this one just because I saw it spike over 1200 watts🤯🤯
That thing got up to 12+ 👀👀👀
Plus I love the fangs under the w in watts inside?
Good to see a review on this amp! Thanks dude! I almost got the S in a 4 channel, but got a smoking deal on the type R 4 channel which I'm sure performs as good if not better than the S. Love the Alpine stuff!
Glad the community has a guy like u! Love seeing them old skool rockford dynos! And until further notice myself and the crew trusts u and always have.
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@@wal I feel like I'm talking to someone famous not going to lie! The main reason I bought a jp83 is because of your solid reviews that had me looking at the best options around. Myself and our crew believe in your wisdom on dam near any amp out there. Purchases proven in many builds have started with a solid trustworthy review. A dyno is a good way to get a solid idea what a guy is working with. I bet everyone has an amp they want to ask u to do 😆 🤣 Jk Thank you!
I've been using the 4/3/2ch s series alpine sa32f(55w X 4@4ohm/75w X4@2ohm/160×x2bridged@4ohm) running 2 6.5 Rockford punch(65w rms) components and 2 Rockford punch 6x9s(75w rms) all at 4 ohm
Birth sheet included in mine says 98w at 2ohm. Most others I've seen always say 85w+. So a bit under rated and never gets more than luke warm to the touch after a long long drive of blasting music.
Been running it almost 2 years and have had no problems. Paid $189 for it and it sounds great with my pioneer dmh220ex HU. Can't blame you for going with the R but if no deals atm for the type R the sa32f is absolutely a great last resort if you want something you know will sound amazing and be reliable.
Alpine amp or CTS sounds amp? For Alpine Type S12...
Had that amp 2 yrs running on 3yrs running 2ohm for 2 sundowns 10s absolutely zero issues
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Definitely still using my 1000 watt alpine over 8 years no problem not louder than others but crystal clear 👌
Alpine has been always pretty good in my opinion. I've never needed a ton of power for the subs that I normally get. I don't buy them that often really because I still have some Boston Acoustics G1's that are still working pretty well for my needs.
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I'm still waiting on that philips sound labs special edition old school amplifier dyno thanks for the dyno tho bud keep them dyno videos coming I love the fact you actually run your amps on a sub 👍
I bought this after watching your video about a month ago. I also purchased a jl audio v3 12 2ohm sub. This dose a awesome job.
This is an excellent, dependable amp. Takes all the abuse and keeps thumpin. Excellent video as always brotha
Hello my friend! Very good content. Have you considered doing some tests on the Helix M line amplifier brand ? Or the Helix D One monoblock ? Cheers!!!
Glad to see when you tested the fosgate 25 to life, the birth sheet numbers could be backed in testing if I remember correctly.
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Glad to see this amp being tested as I have one on my shelf, I always thought it was a great amp and sounded amazing for what it is.
I'd love to see Sony's GS amps like the GS4 or GS400 that are both rated at 400x4 and their mono amp that I think is the GS1 that is rated at 700x1 put on the dyno.
I put this Alpine in my daughter’s car and so far she’s digging it
@@wal This amp is right around the wattage I love to stay at.
The top 3 is one of the amps I have
I love my Alpine decks. I've always ran their best and I have no complaints. Nice video BIG D. 👍🤛🤛
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Alpine is still providing quality products. 👍🏻
Amen and Awomen!
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I saw it reach well over 1000 watts during the woofer test.
Thank you for taking the time to rest this great Alpine product.
So how was it able to peak 1200w ,playing music ,but couldn't get past 800w on the dyno??
Being an Alpine guy, love this video. Hope Big D gets an Alpine MRX-M110 amp to test. In my truck, I have 6 of them running at 2 ohms, 1100 watts, to 6 Skar Audio SDR D4’s. Also have one in my Jetta. And I have one in a cabinet for backup, lol.
Thanks for the suggestion
What type of power supply do you use? My Cascade power supply can’t supply the amperage you’re drawing in most of your evaluations.
I have a couple of setups, with this test I used (8) XS Power D1400 14V batteries in parallel with no charging during testing. I also have a massive LTO bank of XS Power/Yinlong Lithium cells for the bigger amps. My setup is mostly green since I don't need huge AC power to run my setups due to their massive capacities.
I'd love to see what am alpine mrv m1200 would push. Its unbelievably underrated. Very powerful amp.
Good start Big D a lot of people aint trying to put a bunch of all that extra electrical upgrades for that expensive amps getting a like just for that start.
Exactly!!
A lot of these bass heads don't think clearly all they want is a ton of wattage and a ton of bass they don't care if it's clear they don't care about the electrical system they don't care how long it lasts they only want to drive around with their trunk rattling Airheads
I have one of these , I’m glad to see a test on it. My birth sheet says 687 watts on their test. Let me bring something to your attention on this amp because I’m very curious. I see a lot of A60M’s out there and the majority say made it China, however mine happens to be a Korean model. Wondering if there is any difference in the two manufacturers and any components that might be Different as well. I would be incredibly interested in a test of the Korean Model A60M , next to the Chinese model and compare the two. Inside and to the Dyno test
Interesting 🤔
I'm just curious to what you consider a good mids and highest amp? I like the sound of the A/B class amplifiers
Great test on a new budget classic. Speaking budget clasdics will you be testing the JP8 v1. 5?
We shall see!
what speaker would you recommend for this particular amp for a small setup in a dodge journey?
I love Alpine amps. I'm using the MRP-M450 from 2006. I've never had an issue with it and I bought it used. It's only 400W at 2 ohms but it sounds amazing paired with 2 12" kickers. It has enough power to shake everything in the car and the pictures on peoples walls as I drive by. I also prefer the way it sounds over the pioneer 600W amp I have. Would love to try the S-A60M but I can't justify the $400 CAD just for a couple hundred extra watts of power. Also if possible, I would love to see the Alpine KTA-30MW Tough Power Pack tested. I think it would be the perfect thing for most people if they could sell it at a cheaper price.
I’ve that amplifier now in my q5! Pushing two kicker comp 12s sounds nice ! Enough bass for me ! 💪🏽
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How accurate is that Audio multimeter; Can you do a video on testing that? It was hitting far above the dynamic numbers on dyno on some of the clips.
💯 I saw 2794 watts
Battery was a little low, I’ll make sure I change it before the next test. Either way this amp was hitting 1000W plus consistently on the sub test ✌️
I like how you explain things like the protect coming on and then off giving a bad read,but I still haven't heard you explain what's happening when a channel doesn't go up clean and jumps from 300-800 watts. I don't know why that's bad, like what's happening to the music during those jumps? Are they distorting? Clipping? What does it all mean
Thank you again for the informative video. I see this may be double-sided as I was hunting for the drive ICs.
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I have two SA60Ms and I'm gonna pair it with a Type R 12 in a ported box for my wife's car. The Type S is really good but I feel that tiny amp would do better with a Type R since my Type S is clipping at half gain. It'll do fine for me put in a sealed box for rock music. That SA60M really is a sleeper and it generates almost no heat.
Still running an MRV-1000 that I installed in my 04 Dodge Ram when I bought the truck new. Almost 20 years old and still thumps.
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Hi.
Really appreciate all the great videos Bid D!
Friend runs an Alpine R-A75M @ 0.5 ohm small sealed box in his ute (Two 10" type R dual 2 ohm all coils in parallel) We wired it @ 2 ohm initially but thought to try 0.5 ohm thinking it probably won't like it.
Pushed very hard daily for about a year now, no issues sounds great and definitely much more output.
His pioneer 8601 mono amp would pulse in and out of protect trying to drive the same 0.5 ohm wired sub at high output.
Please test it!
Cheers Paul G
Melb. Australia 🙂
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I'm a pro installer. We had one of these in an F250 and it kept going into protect randomly. We replaced it with a Rockford R500.1. I put the Alpine in my car and it's been working great for months. I don't know why it didn't like the ford
That is odd
What ohm was it being ran at?
@@MINAR3L_GR3Y_2V 2 ohms, and still is. I think there was something weird about the truck and the Rockford amp just wasn't as sensitive to it.
Where did you get that box very nice
Would be great if you ran a test on micro amps and power packs, like the match amps and alpine/focal/pioneer power packs
Thanks for the suggestion
I would love to see a review video on alpine’s R-A60F 4 channel amplifier!
1:53 Crutchfield FTW STILL!!!!! Long live Crutchfield!
I still buy from them occasionally just because I want them to stay around 👍
I am old school ....and I have been an alpine head unit loyal customer since the mid 90s ....just bought one for my 98 s10 project ....Alpine -CDE 172BT ....single din cd /multi media player bluetooth etc. And it comes with a front and rear rca plus subwoofer rca ....which is all I need running a 4 channel for mids and hi s and a mono amp for subwoofer....but I have never owned an amplifier from alpine ....used to really want what they use to call a flex 5 alpine amp it was a 5 channel but they were pretty expensive and at the time I was very much still satisfied and using and older Rockford punch 150 for my sub amp ....and a kenwood for midrange
I run that deck it's very nice, miles ahead of the old stuff we used to run. Only thing I don't like is the sub-out control you can't disable the crossover so an Epicenter is out, and it also acts as a bass boost above the middle point on the potentometer, which of course leads to clipity clip pretty easily. I just used one of the full rande outputs. Other than that, very nice.
I'd like to know if the alpine R2 Halo series loaded box and alpine RA-75M are a good pair and if the sub is good or if I should get something else
I had that alpine amp in a 02 caravan with a 15in memphis mojo on 2 coils, cant remember the ohm it was at but it made that van flex!
I have the CXA8001 in my Ford Fusion. It crushes in there. Its rated 800 watts but the birth cert has it at 911 watts
I cranked up the 'do it bump doh' section on my Klipsch Reference set. I thought my desk was gonna walk across my bedroom.
Will this amp be fine to run with two 10in 2ohm Alpine SWT-10S2?
I'm running with two S-W10D2's and it sounds great. Did you end up going with? My only concern is the lack of SSF running ported.
I love alpine! They're one of the few in my all time favorites!! Thanks again Big D
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These Class D amps are the same design they've been selling since 2006, Alpine just keeps repackaging them in a new case every 5-6 years and bumping up the price on them. I'll pass. I still have my original Alpine MRP-M650 from 2006 sitting in a box that still works. It got retired after I replaced it with a 1000w JL Audio amplifier.
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No those old ones are Class A/B
I'm still running my MRP-M450 and F250 in my truck! Those amps are bullet proof!
@@ZC33S_Leftythey are, the 2 and 4 channel ones.
No they are not
Super high quality caps for a budget amp. Probably better than most mid line amps
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Alpine used to rate their amps wattages at 0.08% THD for 4Ohms a channel, and 0.3% for 2Ohms a channel or 4 Ohms bridged. It’d be interesting to see you test more of the old MRV T and M series (brushed aluminium ones) because at 1% THD, they’ll be way over alpines ratings.
How do you know that?
@@ΔημήτρηςΜιμίκος find the manuals for the older models online and look up the specifications pages.
birthsheet that 8 looked more like a 6 which makes sense at 651w
Great video I always wondered why nobody don't test these types of amplifiers good seeing it pass. But in the future not sure if you can test ( JL audio 1000.1 amp ) I'll like to see how much they put out an bump 😁😁😁
Back in 2002 i had 2 10 inch kicker cvrs in a pre fab sealed enclosure powered by a Phoenix gold 500 watt amp. i had it in my dads 1999 Ford f150 single cab and let me tell you it got loud with the windows down you can hear me coming down the block and all i had was 500 watts probably less...like always I'm digging ur videos
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*QUESTION BIG D* after watching this Alpine amp dyno, it made me wonder *what happened to the Alpine 3558 Class A amp dyno?*
that amp doesn't work and hasn't been repaired yet
@@wal thanks for the reply. I'm looking forward to seeing it after it is repaired! Keep up the great work!
Nice Video. i’d love to see the Dyno testing first in the videos( just my Opinion) of the Amps you review. Then go over all the features and guts at the end. save the 1ohm load or .8 ohm like you do at the end. just a few things that might help get people to watch more of your videos. thanks Derrick.
Thanks for the suggestion
Just picked this up in almost new condition for $55..excited to hook it up
I like the new design because my old Alpine MRP 500.. the only reason I don't like the old design the cheap plastic broken off... others then that it's great Amplifier.. I have it's running one Alpine SWR 154d2 it's very loud 🔊🔊🔊 ahhhhhh
Do you think car audio will ever improve on sound quality? Most all the amplifiers sound the same. Low quality power supply only makes terrible crossover sound worse?
Thanks big D! This review had me pull the trigger on one. Replaced my 11 year old Sony Xplod xm-zr1252
No prob. This one has been in my daughter's car for several months with no issues. Only wish it came with the bass knob!
Ive had the Alpine MRV500 powering a canadian tire jbl 12" sub for the last ten years in my garage. Can this amp do more than that? All the subs ive been searching say 1200W 2000W 1800w are they fudging the numbers?long and short of it, Im looking for a sub that this amp was built for. any help would be appreciated
So do you think my mp500 would make a L7 slap or na I have it on a 3k gravity amp rn but idk I doubt that amp is really 3k
Alpine is a true legacy brand. Their consistency over the decades is proof of that.
Good morning, I'm wondering if you ever came across a Nakamichi Gold Series amplifiers. Back in the day my system was a Sony receiver, Sony XEC 500 crossover, Boston Acoustics 6.5 Pro Series door speakers, 2 10 in. MTX Road Thunder Pro Series subs. For the amps I swear it was the Gold Series Naka 45 watts by 2 and MTX Road Thunder 100 watts x 2. It was installed in a brand-new 1990 F 150 regular cab 4x4. It sounded clean with no distortion and about 112 dbl. Thanks
That’s a killer system! I don’t have any OS Nakamichi at the moment, but I come across stuff all the time
Good review, I am definitely an Alpine fan boy but am perplexed by the Birth Sheet thing.
I have owned and used mostly Alpine equipment over the years and am yet to be disappointed.
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Did alpine ever get with u on the birth sheet info ?
i went with the cxa 800.1 and for some reason my dual dvc 4ohm subs wired to 2ohm arent pushing mids.... its basically just dropping out. When wired to 1ohm, the amp cuts out at high volume so i wired to 2ohm and that solved that problem, but i still cant achieve any mids coming out of my subs (my rockford fosgate amp was able to send mids thru those same speakers). do you think its an amp issue, or tuning issue? should i get this amp instead?
I know this is an older video but it did put out 1200 watts on the sub when you connected the SMD Meter! That's over the dynamic burst number.
Yes the AMM-1 measures power output in real time and it’s possible for a momentary burst of that much power
I know I asked you already but I really want to know if you can do r3200.1d JC power amplifier. Reason why because I want to see if it's pushing the 1600 RMS that it's supposed to push I am running 1 12 American Bass XFL 1222 at 1ohms . But if it's not pushing my speaker . Maybe trying something else. Maybe you can let me know what amp I should try on my XFL. Thank you really appreciate these videos
I'm confused between JL JD400/4 or Alpine S2 A36F, both are class D 4 channel amps, will be buying for my Blam relax component and Coax speakers.
Question is....this amp or the JBL GTX500
You say it doesn't make the birth sheet. I don't understand. The amm-1 says 2794 @7:38. I also see that it says .1 ohm. But it also measures higher than 861 at different times above 2 ohms. Could you please elaborate more on the amm-1 or were you specifically going off the dyno? Thanks and keep doing you, I love it!
I need clarification from Alpine how they obtain the number on the birthsheet. Most companies use resistive loads and test tones to obtain the certified numbers. This amp was consistently putting out 1000W plus with the subwoofer on music
The alpine probably has a protection for 1ohm loads in it??
How can the AMM-1 go to over 1100W at 2Ohm in the speaker test? From all we saw on the Dyno the amp doesn't have that in it?