I was so glued to every episode of Dallas! The show was well written, the cast was an amazing ensemble of brilliant actors and actresses and we cant forget the catchy theme song! All those elements made that show a must see every week!
Dallas, Dynasty, FalconCrest and later Hotel and Heart to Heart were the best shows of the 80ties. Nostalgia arrises while remembering how we sat down to watch the shows. Time that wil never come back unfortunately.
Then there was Moonlighting and Cheers and Golden Girls. It was the last hurrah before cable and satellite and streaming. Network TV reigned and they knew what we wanted. The 80's was everything BIG.
Well, when I worked as a cleaning lady in offices, that's what I saw too. Bottle at the ready, right there in the office room. Hmm ... Clear - headed, sharp decision making? And that was in one of the bosses' office.
Skylar Street - Odd, huh? JR and Bobby were also the wealthiest brothers, each owning nearly a third of Ewing Oil and having financially benefited from the company for years. Ray had it the best - owning his own slice of Southfork, with his own house but with some distance from the drama at the main house.
In the pilot season they lived in separate houses. They would have meals at the main house. They had a different house in the mini-series in 1978. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloyce_Box_Ranch
Ray is right here. Bobby was always so damn quick to lecture everyone else. It would have been much better for the series if Bobby and Pam had delayed the wedding here and never gotten remarried. Victoria had made it clear she planned to leave the show at the end of the season and the writers backed themselves into a corner by having them married and then trying to explain the character's departure.
I totally agree. It was ridiculous to have them re-marry since Victoria Principal was leaving the show. It would have been much better if they had had Bobby and Jenna get together and then Pam simply could have left and gone to Europe or something.
One thing I never understood is when exactly did Jenna get pregnant? Before Pam's dream, Jenna had just been released from prison. Bobby was wavering back and forth between Jenna and Pam. Did he sleep with Jenna after she got out of prison? Or was she pregnant before she went to prison?
When Bobby proposed to Pam, he said they didn’t have to live at Southfork - they could live wherever she wanted. In a previous episode, she had talked about how they should have gotten their own place. “It would have been better for us.” But then they got remarried and there they were back at Southfork.
The Nashville Network (I think) ran reruns back in the late 90's/early 00's. It was suddenly taken off and they started running The Dukes of Hazzard. I stayed up late every night to watch the reruns.
I would have loved if in the new Dallas they had for three seasons that Jenna’s boy by Bobby and J.R’s son by his last wife in the original Dallas would have shown up in it also J.R’s oldest son.
Donna Miller But what about Pam who told Bobby in a few scenes later that because they were married now, "Jenna's baby (her words) was not his problem?....And then she demands that he let her know (if Jenna did decided to keep "the baby") if he’s gonna go see it or not....telling him he couldn't have it both ways....In other words, giving him an ultimatum!! I couldn't believe my ears hearing her asking Bobby to choose between her or his biological child!!!!!
Beautiful Angel yep I do remember Pam saying something like "if you did go see it, what about Christopher!" Yeah she was completely out of line being jealous of a baby
daryl ralph .Exactly...The in the next episode she goes to visit Cliff whining about Bobby going to see Jenna.And she screams saying she wish "that baby" didn't exist and she wish Jenna didn't exist.....Ughhh! I never liked her character. She was such a condescending, selfish Bitch!.She would say some of the most horrible, nasty things about other people....I was glad when they "OFFed" her ass off the show by the end of the season!
I actually wish Bobby and Jenna had ended up together. I think it was stupid to have him re-marry Pam since Victoria Principal had already handed in her notice that she would not be returning after the season was over. Plus, he looked like a total sleazebag re-marrying Pam after proposing to Jenna and getting her pregnant.
Victoria likes to say now that she gave them two years’ notice. In reality, she was negotiating a new contract for the next season. The sticking points were: she wanted salary parity with Patrick Duffy, who got a big raise when he returned to the show; and she wanted a one-year contract renewal, and the producers wanted two.
Bobby was'nt a man of honour here..If he did'nt loved this women, he never should let her pregnant..these people who don't know what they want and who destroy others people's lifes..
@Derek Mathews If he married Pam again in the end it meant he loved her more than Jenna. And it's unfair and cruel from JR's part to expect from Jenna to come and crash the wedding. Jenna understood that Bobby doesn't love her as much as she hoped and came to terms with that and chose not to come. Jenna has self respect and chose not to force herself in the arms of a man who loves another woman more than her( Bobby doesn't deserve her) and from a possible loveless marriage done only for the child (which she doesn't deserve either). She knows and she does deserve someone better than Bobby. Someone that will only think about her and not another woman.
Yet selfish Bobby has no qualms about harassing the woman he dumped, along with Charlie. What a romantic honeymoon, hey Pam I'm going to harass Jenna about her having the nerve to not inform me that I impregnated her after I dumped her to marry you, why don't you join me? Jenna should have maced him.
carol Bobby was a prick the way he got back with Pam. Very, very disrespectful to Jenna....He was so selfish to sleep with her without ending things with Jenna....He should've sat her down and been honest with her if he was gonna go running back to his annoying-ass ex!
Bobby was not more in love with Pam than Jenna, he was after the magic he had in the beginning with her and tried to rekindle that magic that had vanished, Years later he realized that it would have never worked out, too many things stood in between them. Even when married to Pam, each time Jenna appeared, he also tried to rekindle the magic they once shared, only stopping short because he was married. When with Pam, when Jenna comes along she was still there in his mind and heart. When with Jenna, Pam was still in his heart. He was torn between these two women. Probably if he married Jenna it would have worked out better, she had more in common with him than Pam ever had. It would also have avoided the drama he was to face after Pam left, with April etc.
PrincessA - Jenna should have gotten blitzed and crashed the wedding. JR could have egged her on as she “accidentally” throws a glass of red wine in Pam’s face, before pushing Bobby into the pool and then passing out on the dining room table.
Since they likely knew Victoria Principal was leaving at the end of this season, I'd have rather not seen Bobby and Pam remarry. They should have had Mark Graison return again (since it was a dream before) and had Pam go off with Mark when she left Dallas. That would have been a much better and more believable resolution to the Pam character than what they did. They just left Pam in limbo with her walking out on Bobby and Christopher that always left a void. Pam and Bobby remarried and all she did was whine all season about Jenna having Bobby's baby. It was a major letdown to the strong Pam we got to see in the prior season.
More bunk n bull....Big mouth Ray....caught up in something that is none of his damn business....Hysterical....Jr immediately calls Jenna...."U need to get over here."
I hated that he didn’t end up with jenna- i always loved their backstory and history as childhood sweethearts - in the reboot if bobby couldn’t be with pam it should have been jenna that he ended the show with by his side and their son lucas
This pregnancy storyline was a dumb idea. Just like making Pam a stay at home wife instead of running Barnes Wentworth with Cliff the move that caused Victoria to leave at the end of this season was also as bad.
D Surrey- Ray did not seem to treat Jenna as great as he should have either. It seemed like both got together on the rebound from others. If Susan Howard had not been fired I bet Ray and Donna would have stayed together, Jenna and Ray were so mismatched, no chemistry in my eyes. When Ray and Donna were happy they were a perfect couple. As Susan was leaving they turned him into a self centered jack ass so the couple would split giving the reason Donna would leave.
D Surrey- And Jenna looked so unhappy with Ray. I don't think she ever smiled when they were together. LoL....NO CHEMISTRY at all. They were one of Dallas' most boring couples. Big Fail with the writers. Ughhhh!😩
@@thebigloc1 OMG, I had no idea Susan Howard had been fired from the show! But I agree: Ray and Donna were a good match. Ray and Jenna were a total mismatch. There was zero chemistry between them.
Ray turned into a knob during his last full season. The way be treated Charlie a d cheated on Jenna. He was also being a prick to Bobby.. To be fair tho he seemed better when he came back for a few episodes the next season to help with the range war
The way things worked, Bobby and Jenna wouldve been married had it not been for the Naldo Marchetta affair. Had Naldo not been murdered and Jenna framed for it, Bobby would not have run back to Pam and fallen in love with her again.
That was Katherine attempt to break up bobby and Jenna. But it ended up with bobby remarrying pam. Katherine pushed bobby and pam back together after splitting them up
Bobby is Lucas' biological father but he never recognized this child as his because he was married to Pamela when Jenna gave birth. In fact, Lucas was then recognized by Ray as his son.
This wedding should have never happened. The magic between Bobby and Pam had disappeared by then. Bobby was a hypocrite in his actions following the revelation which was out of character. Jenna would have provided more stability to him, with Pam all sorts of issues used to come up between them. Pam never really understood his world nor wanted. Jenna grew up in that world and knew what was expected of her. Had Jenna stayed with Bobby he would have been spared all the drama he had to face when Pam left, when April was killed etc
Bobby love life was always chasing what was once, he was not more in love with Pam than Jenna, he was after the magic they had in the beginning and tried to rekindle that magic, that had vanished, Years later he realized that it would have never worked out, too many things stood in between them. Even when married to Pam, each time Jenna appeared, he also tried to rekindle the magic they once shared, only stopping short because he was married. When with Pam, when Jenna comes along, she was still there in his mind and heart. When with Jenna, Pam was still in his heart. He was torn between these two women. Probably if he married Jenna it would have worked out better, she had more in common with him than Pam ever had. It would also have avoided the drama he was to face after Pam left, with April etc.
I think this was a genius idea for Jenna to get pregnant in the midst of Pam and Bobby wedding. We are always talking about how Bobby is the good brother and Jr. is the dog. It shows that Bobby is human and makes mistakes like everybody else. Jr. has had mistress and random women coming in and out of his life and it drove Sue Ellen crazy. Jenna Wade getting pregnant was a test as to how strong Pam and Bobby love for each other really was
Actually Pam and Bobby's love was not that strong, once a fight between her brother and ewings broke out she always sided against Bobby and the ewings. Pam was very selfish towards Bobby, it was always about her, than him, never about them. Jenna never put that pressure on him maybe that why with her he was more at ease.
Bobby may have been Jock's favorite son, but he is also very self-righteous and spoiled. Had he not been Jock's son, and had JR not spent years building up the family fortune and the Ewing name, Bobby would have had nothing.
@Ana Quinn yes showed how bobby would had turned out without Jr and jock. He was a down on his,luck gambler with broken marriage and kids . He still had morals and guts tho ...but was not successful.
I have not seen the series made in 2012 but it seems to me that in the original series, Ray divorces Donna despite the pregnancy of his wife and the birth of their daughter because they move away because of their respective ambitions. Donna wants to become a politician and Ray wants to live in his property. Then, I remember Ray helping Jenna face her new life (she has to find a house, a job ...) then he ends up offering her to live with him after learning about her pregnancy. If I remember correctly, Ray eventually became the official father of Jenna and Bobby's son. On the other hand, I don't remember if Jenna and Ray get married then Charlie goes to Paris. It also seems to me that Ray and Jenna then wanted to go to Europe with their son in order to join Charlie in Paris but I don't remember if they did or not. Bobby has no right about this child because he doesn't claim him as his son. So, I guess the appearance or not of Bobby and Jenna's son may not have been deemed necessary if he feels like he is advancing Ray's son. Are Ray and Jenna in the 2012 series?
@@sergemesnil309 j'avais écrit ceci: Je n'ai pas vu la série réalisée en 2012 mais il me semble que dans la série originale, Ray divorce de Donna malgré la grossesse de sa femme et la naissance de leur fille car ils s'éloignent à cause de leurs ambitions respectives. Donna veut devenir politicienne et Ray veut vivre dans sa propriété. Puis, je me souviens de Ray aidant Jenna à affronter sa nouvelle vie (elle doit trouver une maison, un travail...) puis il finit par lui proposer de vivre avec lui après avoir appris sa grossesse. Si je me souviens bien, Ray est finalement devenu le père officiel du fils de Jenna et Bobby. Par contre, Jenna et Ray se marient puis Charlie va à Paris. Il me semble aussi que Ray et Jenna ont ensuite voulu partir en Europe avec leur fils afin de rejoindre Charlie à Paris mais je ne me souviens plus s'ils l'ont fait ou pas. Bobby n'a aucun droit sur cet enfant car il ne le revendique pas comme son fils. Donc, je suppose que l'apparition ou non du fils de Bobby et Jenna n'a peut-être pas été jugée nécessaire s'il a l'impression de faire avancer le fils de Ray. Ray et Jenna sont-ils dans la série 2012 ? Présent: Depuis j'ai vu que Ray et Jenna se sont bien mariés et que Charlie a été envoyée à paris car elle devenait une ado très difficile (bon c'était probablement le moyen trouvé par les scénaristes pour justifier le départ de l"actrice puisque les producteurs levaient beaucoup d'acteurs pour une raison de budget. Ensuite, Ray et Jenna sont partis s'installer en Suisse où ils semblaient très heureux d'après les films qui ont suivi dans les années 90 et début 2000. Ray revient toujours seul à Southfork et il semble toujours aussi heureux. Enfin dans la série de 2012, il revient encore une fois seul mais Jenna, leur fils (Bobby ne l'a jamais reconnu) ne sont pas mentionnés mais Ray ne semble pas être divorcé.
It was her idea to divorce Bobby in the first place, even though he hadn't cheated on her, and even though she was living in the lap of luxury thanks to him. She was too high-maintenance for her own good.
SingleTax Why the hell did Pam leave Bobby like 3 or 4 times if she loved him so much?.....Some love!! You are supposed to stay with your husband through thick and thin...Seemed liked she only wanted him desperately when he was with Jenna. She found every damn excuse in the world to get her ass on Southfork when Jenna was in the picture. Very disrespectful!
This is from the 1986-1987 season. This was the first season after Pam's 'dream'. Bobby was very much alive and him & Pam decided to remarry. Jenna & Charlie left Southfork. Only a short time later, Jenna discovered she was pregnant with Bobby's child. Jenna gave birth to a son, Lucas, at the end of this season. By this time, Jenna, Charlie & Lucas were living with Ray Krebbs.
@@marinagreco4026 Yes although Ray was given his share because he was Jock's son. Why would Bobby's son not have the same birth right? I know people that have been in this situation. The child had the their birth father's last name. They were told when they were old enough to understand who their biological father was. My niece was in this situation. Her bio father named her in his will. He paid child support although her step father was more of a full time time dad.
I didn't feel bad for Bobby at all. For the love of god, they should have been happy about it, and move on. I agree with you James Kennedy. I thought Bobby remarrying Pam was the stupidest thing he ever did for the love of god. He should have just married Jenna, and they should have raised their baby boy together. If they had raised Lucas together, things might have been different for them in the end. Overall, JR didn't like a lot of people, but he definitely liked Jenna.
He loved Pam and always will. Why would you condone him being with Jenna? He wouldve married Jenna just because she had his baby? No no no that marriage wouldn't last because it was based on only out of obligation.
@@donnamiller5222 Why should she tell Bobby? He dumped her to marry Pam. Dumb (IMHO) but you can't always talk people out of the dumb stuff they are going to do.
If Ray ever said to Bobby you dump Jenna to marry Liane, Bobby says I am marrying Liane because she is carrying our baby now I am doing the right thing marrying her not walk out on her and our unborn child,Yu are not going to spoil the happiest day of my life
Definition of 'soap' is lots of incredible ridiculous cliffhangers chased by soap commercials for comic relief. Dallas was great while it lasted due to marvelous casting of original players...J.R, Sue Ellen, Bobby, Pam, Cliff, Miss Ellie and Jock, Ray and Lucy. Ancillary players over the years kept it stoked, but the Romeo and Juliet theme tugged at your heartstrings and JR'S evil doing never ceased to amaze. Katzman had lightning in a bottle and money and contract issues and new writers coming in ... it's a Hollywood tale told by idiots that always ends up with series finale. Can't go on forever. Life...oh well.
I was so glued to every episode of Dallas! The show was well written, the cast was an amazing ensemble of brilliant actors and actresses and we cant forget the catchy theme song! All those elements made that show a must see every week!
Dallas, Dynasty, FalconCrest and later Hotel and Heart to Heart were the best shows of the 80ties. Nostalgia arrises while remembering how we sat down to watch the shows. Time that wil never come back unfortunately.
You are so right about that. Me and my Mom used to watch all of those shows. I still watch Hart to Hart, but can't find Falcon Crest.
Knots Landing
Then there was Moonlighting and Cheers and Golden Girls. It was the last hurrah before cable and satellite and streaming. Network TV reigned and they knew what we wanted. The 80's was everything BIG.
'Colbys'
@@charmainek6416I liked The Colby's.
That "Barnes" woman... slays me every time, lol
Desire zonary.
Dallas was well written. Loved show as the entertainment it was! Enjoying clips!😀
These folks for the most part were 'functioning alcoholics' , lol and a bar in every office and practically every room at Southfork haha
apparently,larry was really drinking..
Well, when I worked as a cleaning lady in offices, that's what I saw too. Bottle at the ready, right there in the office room. Hmm ... Clear - headed, sharp decision making? And that was in one of the bosses' office.
Thats real life lol, attorneys, docs, accountants, etc etc.
i know right
@@StephanieGSM yikes!
I love love love this show. There will never be another J.R. I am so happy he was able to play JR again, later in life❤️
Jacque McCoy a night at the dogs and a holiday in Great Yarmouth! 😊
It was weird that all the grown-up Ewing men lived with their mother and her husband except for Ray and Gary.
Skylar Street - Odd, huh? JR and Bobby were also the wealthiest brothers, each owning nearly a third of Ewing Oil and having financially benefited from the company for years. Ray had it the best - owning his own slice of Southfork, with his own house but with some distance from the drama at the main house.
It was strictly for plot lines and proximity of scene setup. Also, they wanted to live on the ranch because one day, one of them would inherit it.
....and they weren't even Jewish.
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In the pilot season they lived in separate houses. They would have meals at the main house. They had a different house in the mini-series in 1978. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloyce_Box_Ranch
I hated the way Ray treated Donna.
She deserved so much better.
Ray WAS an insecure man AND a pos half breed that lived up to "that" tag.🤣😂😆😁😁
He felt she deserved better is what it was
I miss this show. It was so good.
For being the 'good' brother, Bobby certainly still brought his share of drama into the household.
Jason Michael lol i can’t argue with that comment
Jenna was the only person JR was nice to. He really liked Jenna for a sister in law
@@salt27dogg me To liked jenna pam never outside the pam
@@salt27dogg He only liked Jenna because he hated Bobby being married to a Barnes woman.
@@ms.bubs4fun506 True! But he never messed with her, even during the dream season when Bobby “died”.
Best soap show ever....
Ray is right here. Bobby was always so damn quick to lecture everyone else.
It would have been much better for the series if Bobby and Pam had delayed the wedding here and never gotten remarried. Victoria had made it clear she planned to leave the show at the end of the season and the writers backed themselves into a corner by having them married and then trying to explain the character's departure.
I totally agree. It was ridiculous to have them re-marry since Victoria Principal was leaving the show. It would have been much better if they had had Bobby and Jenna get together and then Pam simply could have left and gone to Europe or something.
@@01Mary02 Well, Priscilla was only on one more year after that!
I love Bobby and Pam, so cute together!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️....
JR so funny and sneaky 😩
It's bad luck to see the bride before the wedding - Pam's crash.
One thing I never understood is when exactly did Jenna get pregnant? Before Pam's dream, Jenna had just been released from prison. Bobby was wavering back and forth between Jenna and Pam. Did he sleep with Jenna after she got out of prison? Or was she pregnant before she went to prison?
He slept with her right after she got out of prison.
@@jaredjlindenI didn’t know Jenna was in Prison 😳
@@ms.peewee504Jenna was in prison for a murder she didn’t commit. Her ex-husband Renaldo Marchetta.
Bobby and Pam should have married and left Southfork
And not live in the same house with the entire grown family? Don't be outrageous.
John Carter yes most definitely!
Drew Burk 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
In reality, they would have lived in Pam’s house, which was only 10 minutes north of downtown Dallas.
When Bobby proposed to Pam, he said they didn’t have to live at Southfork - they could live wherever she wanted. In a previous episode, she had talked about how they should have gotten their own place. “It would have been better for us.” But then they got remarried and there they were back at Southfork.
As beautiful as Southfork is it's a toxic place for relationships.
Lol...it's s toxic place period!😆
'As the bride.' That would be a hollow victory, J.R
Dallas was great we love it 😃❤❣❤😃
Why can't the women stations run reruns of Dallas nothing good on tv during the days
The Nashville Network (I think) ran reruns back in the late 90's/early 00's. It was suddenly taken off and they started running The Dukes of Hazzard. I stayed up late every night to watch the reruns.
Exactly. They should bring back Dallas reruns. Instead of all these new shows that I can't stand.
Its Elvis' baby
That dress is horrid. Oh dear
and that headgear - yikes
But the bank account she was marrying was anything but horrid -- and that's all that matters to most women.
I thought that in 1986. Lol
@BruhTV But the dress...........
She isugly the pam
I would have loved if in the new Dallas they had for three seasons that Jenna’s boy by Bobby and J.R’s son by his last wife in the original Dallas would have shown up in it also J.R’s oldest son.
I didn't like Jenna and her attitude toward Bobby telling he couldn't be a father to his child what nerve im glad he finally laid down the law
Actually it's Bobby who has a heck of a nerve .... go home to your bride, for crying out loud.
Vydio she had no right trying to keep his kid away from him
Donna Miller But what about Pam who told Bobby in a few scenes later that because they were married now, "Jenna's baby (her words) was not his problem?....And then she demands that he let her know (if Jenna did decided to keep "the baby") if he’s gonna go see it or not....telling him he couldn't have it both ways....In other words, giving him an ultimatum!! I couldn't believe my ears hearing her asking Bobby to choose between her or his biological child!!!!!
Beautiful Angel yep I do remember Pam saying something like "if you did go see it, what about Christopher!" Yeah she was completely out of line being jealous of a baby
daryl ralph .Exactly...The in the next episode she goes to visit Cliff whining about Bobby going to see Jenna.And she screams saying she wish "that baby" didn't exist and she wish Jenna didn't exist.....Ughhh! I never liked her character. She was such a condescending, selfish Bitch!.She would say some of the most horrible, nasty things about other people....I was glad when they "OFFed" her ass off the show by the end of the season!
Dallas is like a Zanuck Brothers production of soap operas. It's almost like Airplane with a majorly fun villain throughout with JR.
Lol
JR inviting Jenna to the wedding LOL.
It was rather mean.
To be the bride LOL 😂
It’s up to Bobby who he gets married to mind your own business Jr
JR getting on the phone. lol
Jason Wilkins - He should have sent the Southfork helicopter to pick Jenna up and then make a dramatic entrance.
😂😂😂
He's such an asshole! But, he was good.
@@redletter2008 Hahaha🤣🤣🤣. That damn J.R. Is always causing Pam trouble...And I love it. LOL
It’s like he expected her to come rip the dress off Pamela lol.
I actually wish Bobby and Jenna had ended up together. I think it was stupid to have him re-marry Pam since Victoria Principal had already handed in her notice that she would not be returning after the season was over. Plus, he looked like a total sleazebag re-marrying Pam after proposing to Jenna and getting her pregnant.
Okay with you
And Jenna would have been a perfect fit for him, she grew up with the Ewings. Even Jr liked her which says much.
Victoria likes to say now that she gave them two years’ notice. In reality, she was negotiating a new contract for the next season. The sticking points were: she wanted salary parity with Patrick Duffy, who got a big raise when he returned to the show; and she wanted a one-year contract renewal, and the producers wanted two.
Bobby was'nt a man of honour here..If he did'nt loved this women, he never should let her pregnant..these people who don't know what they want and who destroy others people's lifes..
Stop meddling in your brother’s life Jr
It's bad luck to see the bride before the wedding. And look what happened to Pam at season's end:
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@Derek Mathews
If he married Pam again in the end it meant he loved her more than Jenna. And it's unfair and cruel from JR's part to expect from Jenna to come and crash the wedding. Jenna understood that Bobby doesn't love her as much as she hoped and came to terms with that and chose not to come. Jenna has self respect and chose not to force herself in the arms of a man who loves another woman more than her( Bobby doesn't deserve her) and from a possible loveless marriage done only for the child (which she doesn't deserve either).
She knows and she does deserve someone better than Bobby.
Someone that will only think about her and not another woman.
Yet selfish Bobby has no qualms about harassing the woman he dumped, along with Charlie. What a romantic honeymoon, hey Pam I'm going to harass Jenna about her having the nerve to not inform me that I impregnated her after I dumped her to marry you, why don't you join me? Jenna should have maced him.
carol Bobby was a prick the way he got back with Pam. Very, very disrespectful to Jenna....He was so selfish to sleep with her without ending things with Jenna....He should've sat her down and been honest with her if he was gonna go running back to his annoying-ass ex!
What irritates me is Pam!!! No matter what the situation is, she always acts like everyone should feel sorry for her...poor Pam "again"!!!
@@debbiesiehr8658 poor jenna
Bobby was not more in love with Pam than Jenna, he was after the magic he had in the beginning with her and tried to rekindle that magic that had vanished, Years later he realized that it would have never worked out, too many things stood in between them.
Even when married to Pam, each time Jenna appeared, he also tried to rekindle the magic they once shared, only stopping short because he was married.
When with Pam, when Jenna comes along she was still there in his mind and heart. When with Jenna, Pam was still in his heart. He was torn between these two women.
Probably if he married Jenna it would have worked out better, she had more in common with him than Pam ever had. It would also have avoided the drama he was to face after Pam left, with April etc.
Jenna refused to be JR's pawn
I understand your comment, but I believe that JR did really care about Jenna. JR always had respect towards her. 🙂
PrincessA - Jenna should have gotten blitzed and crashed the wedding. JR could have egged her on as she “accidentally” throws a glass of red wine in Pam’s face, before pushing Bobby into the pool and then passing out on the dining room table.
Réponse à redler ils ne méritent que ça pam and bobby
@@redletter2008 Pam is a real princess!👑
@@user-zj8mp1et1t no
Dallas is the best thing ever to me and my beautiful family love it
Since they likely knew Victoria Principal was leaving at the end of this season, I'd have rather not seen Bobby and Pam remarry. They should have had Mark Graison return again (since it was a dream before) and had Pam go off with Mark when she left Dallas. That would have been a much better and more believable resolution to the Pam character than what they did. They just left Pam in limbo with her walking out on Bobby and Christopher that always left a void. Pam and Bobby remarried and all she did was whine all season about Jenna having Bobby's baby. It was a major letdown to the strong Pam we got to see in the prior season.
More bunk n bull....Big mouth Ray....caught up in something that is none of his damn business....Hysterical....Jr immediately calls Jenna...."U need to get over here."
Ray has a big mouth! LOL
Yeah he became cocky being the writers chose not to reunite him and Donna.
Jenna liked jr
That is one ugly wedding gown.
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Yes, it was.
The only thing about the whole get up that looked good was Pam's wedding veil.
That wedding dress looks hideous on Pam...
What were they thinking?
Watched this one today on Amazon Prime
Bobby should have married Jenna.
I agree.
Brandon Bowles I liked him with Jenna....Pam was waaaaayyyyy too selfish and jealous!!!!!!!!
I hated that he didn’t end up with jenna- i always loved their backstory and history as childhood sweethearts - in the reboot if bobby couldn’t be with pam it should have been jenna that he ended the show with by his side and their son lucas
@@overcomerbtboj agree
This pregnancy storyline was a dumb idea. Just like making Pam a stay at home wife instead of running Barnes Wentworth with Cliff the move that caused Victoria to leave at the end of this season was also as bad.
They knew Victoria was leaving two years prior at the end of her contract. She negotiated that way.
Ray & Jenna’s relationship was very weird. Leaves one brother to marry another. Eww
D Surrey- Ray did not seem to treat Jenna as great as he should have either. It seemed like both got together on the rebound from others. If Susan Howard had not been fired I bet Ray and Donna would have stayed together, Jenna and Ray were so mismatched, no chemistry in my eyes. When Ray and Donna were happy they were a perfect couple. As Susan was leaving they turned him into a self centered jack ass so the couple would split giving the reason Donna would leave.
D Surrey- And Jenna looked so unhappy with Ray. I don't think she ever smiled when they were together. LoL....NO CHEMISTRY at all. They were one of Dallas' most boring couples. Big Fail with the writers. Ughhhh!😩
@@beautifulangel3815 I believe the friendship between them was well done. They should have left it there.
Vydio Agreed! Their friendship worked better.....They acted more like siblings than a married couple. No spark !
@@thebigloc1 OMG, I had no idea Susan Howard had been fired from the show! But I agree: Ray and Donna were a good match. Ray and Jenna were a total mismatch. There was zero chemistry between them.
Yeah then Pam leaves Christopher and Bobby behind, after Bobby gives away his biological son to please Pam.
Ray has a big mouth pam knows everything
Ray abandons his own pregnant wife but points fingers at Bobby. How manly of him.
Ray kind of a hypocrite he lets his daughter be raised by another man but has no problem raising his brothers son.
Ray turned into a knob during his last full season. The way be treated Charlie a d cheated on Jenna. He was also being a prick to Bobby.. To be fair tho he seemed better when he came back for a few episodes the next season to help with the range war
Busted!
The way things worked, Bobby and Jenna wouldve been married had it not been for the Naldo Marchetta affair. Had Naldo not been murdered and Jenna framed for it, Bobby would not have run back to Pam and fallen in love with her again.
That was Katherine attempt to break up bobby and Jenna. But it ended up with bobby remarrying pam. Katherine pushed bobby and pam back together after splitting them up
But long before Jenna and Bobby were engaged he still loved Pam it wouldn't be fair to Jenna if he married her and still loved Pam
Bobby never stopped loving Pam. Him and Jenna weren't destined. Oh, but then she goes on to break up Ray and Donna.
Ray was right! By the way, tacky wedding gown.
If Bobby were marrying Jenna and Pam was the One pregnant Jr would not have called Pam
Maybe that would have been a better storyline....Bobby and Jenna should have been married...Let Pam get pregnant against all odds...
Jr Liked Jenna
Bien fait pour bobby and pam
Is Ray the father of Donna's baby?
Yes he is.
Bobby is Lucas' biological father but he never recognized this child as his because he was married to Pamela when Jenna gave birth. In fact, Lucas was then recognized by Ray as his son.
For me ray is the father of lucas
This wedding should have never happened. The magic between Bobby and Pam had disappeared by then. Bobby was a hypocrite in his actions following the revelation which was out of character.
Jenna would have provided more stability to him, with Pam all sorts of issues used to come up between them. Pam never really understood his world nor wanted.
Jenna grew up in that world and knew what was expected of her.
Had Jenna stayed with Bobby he would have been spared all the drama he had to face when Pam left, when April was killed etc
No surprise there. JR true to himself always doing something bad. I can't believe that he hated Pam his own sister in laws
Bobby love life was always chasing what was once, he was not more in love with Pam than Jenna, he was after the magic they had in the beginning and tried to rekindle that magic, that had vanished, Years later he realized that it would have never worked out, too many things stood in between them.
Even when married to Pam, each time Jenna appeared, he also tried to rekindle the magic they once shared, only stopping short because he was married.
When with Pam, when Jenna comes along, she was still there in his mind and heart. When with Jenna, Pam was still in his heart. He was torn between these two women.
Probably if he married Jenna it would have worked out better, she had more in common with him than Pam ever had. It would also have avoided the drama he was to face after Pam left, with April etc.
What is that thing on Pamela's head?
Ray should of never said anything and let bobby and Pam be happy forever
that wasn't gonna happen Ray has never gotten over the fact that Pam left him for Bobby
I think this was a genius idea for Jenna to get pregnant in the midst of Pam and Bobby wedding. We are always talking about how Bobby is the good brother and Jr. is the dog. It shows that Bobby is human and makes mistakes like everybody else. Jr. has had mistress and random women coming in and out of his life and it drove Sue Ellen crazy. Jenna Wade getting pregnant was a test as to how strong Pam and Bobby love for each other really was
Actually Pam and Bobby's love was not that strong, once a fight between her brother and ewings broke out she always sided against Bobby and the ewings.
Pam was very selfish towards Bobby, it was always about her, than him, never about them.
Jenna never put that pressure on him maybe that why with her he was more at ease.
Ohhhhhhhh My goodness
Jr Jenna were friends
John ross says too Donna and his mama daddy and uncle Ray talking loud thought there was gonna be another fire lol
Beautiful couple!!Love Bobby and Pam!!
Bobby may have been Jock's favorite son, but he is also very self-righteous and spoiled. Had he not been Jock's son, and had JR not spent years building up the family fortune and the Ewing name, Bobby would have had nothing.
@Ana Quinn yes showed how bobby would had turned out without Jr and jock. He was a down on his,luck gambler with broken marriage and kids . He still had morals and guts tho ...but was not successful.
@Ana Quinn but technology that was just Jr dream when he had a breakdown. Nice to chat to another Dallas fan tho!! X
I wonder why they did not introduce this child into the 2012 series because after all the baby was a Ewing because it was Bobby’s child
I have not seen the series made in 2012 but it seems to me that in the original series, Ray divorces Donna despite the pregnancy of his wife and the birth of their daughter because they move away because of their respective ambitions. Donna wants to become a politician and Ray wants to live in his property.
Then, I remember Ray helping Jenna face her new life (she has to find a house, a job ...) then he ends up offering her to live with him after learning about her pregnancy.
If I remember correctly, Ray eventually became the official father of Jenna and Bobby's son. On the other hand, I don't remember if Jenna and Ray get married then Charlie goes to Paris. It also seems to me that Ray and Jenna then wanted to go to Europe with their son in order to join Charlie in Paris but I don't remember if they did or not. Bobby has no right about this child because he doesn't claim him as his son. So, I guess the appearance or not of Bobby and Jenna's son may not have been deemed necessary if he feels like he is advancing Ray's son.
Are Ray and Jenna in the 2012 series?
What about Cally's baby?
@@marinagreco4026 vous pourriez me traduire ce que vous avez écrit en français ? Merci
@@marinagreco4026 bonjour pouvez vous me traduire ce que vous avez écrit merci
@@sergemesnil309 j'avais écrit ceci: Je n'ai pas vu la série réalisée en 2012 mais il me semble que dans la série originale, Ray divorce de Donna malgré la grossesse de sa femme et la naissance de leur fille car ils s'éloignent à cause de leurs ambitions respectives. Donna veut devenir politicienne et Ray veut vivre dans sa propriété.
Puis, je me souviens de Ray aidant Jenna à affronter sa nouvelle vie (elle doit trouver une maison, un travail...) puis il finit par lui proposer de vivre avec lui après avoir appris sa grossesse.
Si je me souviens bien, Ray est finalement devenu le père officiel du fils de Jenna et Bobby. Par contre, Jenna et Ray se marient puis Charlie va à Paris. Il me semble aussi que Ray et Jenna ont ensuite voulu partir en Europe avec leur fils afin de rejoindre Charlie à Paris mais je ne me souviens plus s'ils l'ont fait ou pas. Bobby n'a aucun droit sur cet enfant car il ne le revendique pas comme son fils. Donc, je suppose que l'apparition ou non du fils de Bobby et Jenna n'a peut-être pas été jugée nécessaire s'il a l'impression de faire avancer le fils de Ray.
Ray et Jenna sont-ils dans la série 2012 ?
Présent: Depuis j'ai vu que Ray et Jenna se sont bien mariés et que Charlie a été envoyée à paris car elle devenait une ado très difficile (bon c'était probablement le moyen trouvé par les scénaristes pour justifier le départ de l"actrice puisque les producteurs levaient beaucoup d'acteurs pour une raison de budget. Ensuite, Ray et Jenna sont partis s'installer en Suisse où ils semblaient très heureux d'après les films qui ont suivi dans les années 90 et début 2000. Ray revient toujours seul à Southfork et il semble toujours aussi heureux. Enfin dans la série de 2012, il revient encore une fois seul mais Jenna, leur fils (Bobby ne l'a jamais reconnu) ne sont pas mentionnés mais Ray ne semble pas être divorcé.
that dramatic music.
Jenna liked jr
Don't you just love JR😅
Jr too jenna wee always agreed on same things lol
Jr liked jenna
My heart broke for Pam throughout the series....
It was her idea to divorce Bobby in the first place, even though he hadn't cheated on her, and even though she was living in the lap of luxury thanks to him. She was too high-maintenance for her own good.
Fuck Pam. The worst character ever on Dallas.
SingleTax they divorced mainly because of all the interference by Katherine.
@@reneep9972 That would be James
SingleTax Why the hell did Pam leave Bobby like 3 or 4 times if she loved him so much?.....Some love!! You are supposed to stay with your husband through thick and thin...Seemed liked she only wanted him desperately when he was with Jenna. She found every damn excuse in the world to get her ass on Southfork when Jenna was in the picture. Very disrespectful!
This is where I get lost with Dallas. I don't remember this. Did Jenna have the baby? Was this part of the season that everything was a dream?
This is from the 1986-1987 season. This was the first season after Pam's 'dream'. Bobby was very much alive and him & Pam decided to remarry. Jenna & Charlie left Southfork. Only a short time later, Jenna discovered she was pregnant with Bobby's child. Jenna gave birth to a son, Lucas, at the end of this season. By this time, Jenna, Charlie & Lucas were living with Ray Krebbs.
Just wow! So Bobby had a Ewing heir and they didn't include this in the TNT 2012-14 series?
@@flilguy It would have made a great storyline
@@flilguy Bobby never recognized this child as his as he was married to Pamela when Jenna gave birth. In fact, Lucas was recognized by Ray as his son.
@@marinagreco4026 Yes although Ray was given his share because he was Jock's son. Why would Bobby's son not have the same birth right? I know people that have been in this situation. The child had the their birth father's last name. They were told when they were old enough to understand who their biological father was. My niece was in this situation. Her bio father named her in his will. He paid child support although her step father was more of a full time time dad.
I'm not talking about as a guest. I'm talking about as the bride.
That wedding dress is tacky
Bobby Is beautiful
Jr liked Jenna
JR liked himself, both as a man and a woman!
The reason he liked her was that she wasn't related to Cliff Barnes, whom he hated.
Mee too
That's ray baby not bobby she lieing just to stop the wedding that it should have been hers really
If there was one character I didn’t like it was Ray and Donna.
Isn't that TWO characters??
Carter McCay was a creep and so was Jeremy Wendell.
The show got weirder and weirder after Donna left. Then when Ray and Donna moved to Switzerland to live, it really got crazy.
I didn't feel bad for Bobby at all. For the love of god, they should have been happy about it, and move on. I agree with you James Kennedy. I thought Bobby remarrying Pam was the stupidest thing he ever did for the love of god. He should have just married Jenna, and they should have raised their baby boy together. If they had raised Lucas together, things might have been different for them in the end. Overall, JR didn't like a lot of people, but he definitely liked Jenna.
ray always got big mouth because Jenna didn't want bobby to know I guess
He loved Pam and always will. Why would you condone him being with Jenna? He wouldve married Jenna just because she had his baby? No no no that marriage wouldn't last because it was based on only out of obligation.
Then he should have left her alone. But his marriage to Pam wasn't 24 hours old before he was harassing Jenna.
who cares jenna,should have,told Bobby selfish woman
@@donnamiller5222 Why should she tell Bobby? He dumped her to marry Pam. Dumb (IMHO) but you can't always talk people out of the dumb stuff they are going to do.
If Ray ever said to Bobby you dump Jenna to marry Liane, Bobby says I am marrying Liane because she is carrying our baby now I am doing the right thing marrying her not walk out on her and our unborn child,Yu are not going to spoil the happiest day of my life
ha jr bobby i think we shud call off wedding ha
Trying to love two ain't easy to do
"That Barnes woman".🤣
Jenna. Still. Never. Belong. To. Bobby. Pam. And. Bobby. Always. Be. Long. Together. And say. And. Donna. Always. Belong. Together. Also.
and it was Jenna that gave him a son he always wanted.
It's OK Jenna you have an exciting future ahead with Lieutenant Frank Drebin of Police Squad!!
Exactly why Larry Hagman had to have a liver transplant.
If Bobby was my husband he wouldn’t ever had done that to me I would be pregnant with his child. No way he would cheat on me with anyone else
Bobby And Jenna has Strong Chemistry they should have been together
If I'm 100% honest, neither Pamela or Jenna were good for Bobby. I liked with April, and later, Ann.
Pamela and Jenna were both two whiny, IMHO.
I know Bobby wasn't the father. Was it Ray's? Did Donna leave Dallas with Ray's baby? Anyone?
Bobby was the father. And yes, Donna did leave with Ray's baby.
JR wait a minute there. lol
Ray laid into Bobby about Jenna
WHAT A GOD AWFUL WEDDING DRESS!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Pam bought her wedding at Kmart.
Ray looking at jr lol
interesting comments
Definition of 'soap' is lots of incredible ridiculous cliffhangers chased by soap commercials for comic relief. Dallas was great while it lasted due to marvelous casting of original players...J.R, Sue Ellen, Bobby, Pam, Cliff, Miss Ellie and Jock, Ray and Lucy. Ancillary players over the years kept it stoked, but the Romeo and Juliet theme tugged at your heartstrings and JR'S evil doing never ceased to amaze. Katzman had lightning in a bottle and money and contract issues and new writers coming in ... it's a Hollywood tale told by idiots that always ends up with series finale. Can't go on forever. Life...oh well.
Good fact for them
In that dress and with that hair, Pamela looks like a snow man..or snow women..
Love J.R.
JR was always trying to do the right thing...