Xbox is coming! Steam Deck Update
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Xbox is Making a Handheld For Real + Steam Deck Wins BIG At Xbox Showcase
"The future for us in hardware is pretty awesome. The work that the team is doing around different form factors, different ways to play, I'm incredibly excited about," Spencer said. "Today was about the games... but we will have a time to come out and talk more about platform, and we can't wait to bring it to you."
When asked if a hypothetical Xbox handheld would be a dedicated gaming platform where you can play games locally (like a Steam Deck or Nintendo Switch), or a cloud-based handheld, Spencer responded: "I think being able to play games locally is really important."
Steam Deck Competition is Missing the Point
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Lilliputing reports on Adata's XPG Nia prototype, which was shown off at the Computex trade show. The unit is the first gaming handheld so far to embrace the CAMM (Compression Attached Memory Module) standard that allows for easily replaceable and upgradeable memory modules, as well as a number of other mod-friendly features.
If you've read our previous coverage of the emerging CAMM standard, you know how excited we are about the ultra-thin modules that can simply be screwed into place on a laptop or portable motherboard. That offers a viable replacement for the now-standard soldered LPDDR RAM, which saves space but is incredibly difficult to repair or replace.
The CAMM standard brings the same easy-to-swap design as the older SO-DIMM RAM stick standard but with a smaller footprint, thermal design, and power usage specially made for portable devices. Reports suggest the XPG Nia will use the low-power LPCAMM2 version of these RAM modules, which will be easily accessible by lifting up the kickstand on the back of the XPG Nia. Alongside a standard M.2 2230 slot for adding more storage, that should make the new handheld much easier to upgrade than the likes of the Steam Deck, which requires some serious hacking to push above the standard spec.
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they likely just illegally contained the iso in a bin within the games files and mounted it using a background daemon tools. I was able to use a virtual dvd drive on my deck to mount an ISO and play it with a launcher on steam deck that was otherwise not "supported".
I would love to be able to play game pass locally on my Steam Deck, that would be awesome
Facts
I really don’t lose much sleep over not being able to play a game on an airplane or bad WiFi 🤷🏼♂️. If I want it bad enough I’ll buy it on steam
You can, Dual boot with Windows..... plenty of videos on youtube on how to do it, if you have a OLED don't bother, not all the drivers are there but, the LCD works perfectly. I do it and it's awesome...
This is one of the biggest drawbacks of my steam deck. It's the biggest reason I'm considering another Windows handheld as my 2nd device.
on the 19th of June I will order the Steam deck oled 512 GB plus a micro SD card with 512 gb I'm so excited 😊
I have the original steam deck and it's one of the best investments of you need to be away from your PC and still want to enjoy your games. Hope you enjoy it.
On the 27th of June is the summer sale and its possible the deck may get a discount.
@@user-oh7ey4qb9jit will def get a discount, because its too expensive now and not selling
I bought the 1TB version on that day! birthday present to myself lmao
@@user-oh7ey4qb9j im glad the vr games got on sale got half life alyx for cheap
Xbox and Valve would 100% make a profits sharing deal if they really do get the Steam store to work on Xbox consoles/handhelds.
Really sold me on Gears Tactics
But my back log is long enough
Thanks for the tip on Gears Tactics - downloading now!
What causes people to make cringy comments like this??
Any reason you can't just mount an iso image of your DVD for the game? It's been a long time, but I'm sure I used WineTricks back in the day to mount folder paths as drive letters in WINE games back in the day. Probably you don't even need to mount an iso image of your disc (probably easiest). But the iso mounted to a folder, then winetricks to make that folder into a drive letter in your game. If you just have the disc contents already, then throw all that into a folder and in winetricks mount the folder to a drive letter. It's definitely something I did 10 or 15 years ago.
Exactly what I was thinking. Unless it's doing something like checking the disc for DRM reasons.
The only other thing I can think of is you WILL need to deal with the Anti-Cheat, unless that was patched, as it was tied to a security certificate that expired in 2009.
he could've just downloaded a patched exe that gets rid of the cd check
Gears tactics was really fun. The most frustrating xcom thing about it 98% accuracy with a shotgun - still missed the target
Honestly love my ally, but i love it even more with steam os on it via bazzite... Xbox doesnt necessarily need to come out with hardware, just a gaming version of windows without all the BS bloat! Games are so much more steady on steam os its absurd... I will say handhelds are no doubt the future for me, and probably the steam deck 2 unless Microsoft does something amazing...
That chain though!!! Deck Ready must be doin numbers!!
I’m really on the fence in regards of what to get, older steam deck for a good price, steam deck oled or a rog ally, I’m not a pc gamer so it’s quite foreign to me
your gonna have to crack it buddy, no way around it
i want xbox handheld because iam getting fed up with the rog ally the last two days the rog has give me serious grief
@dark2deeds oh i wanted to get the rog ally x, especially because i have a big library... and i don't have steam. is it really that bad?
@@melwel_2008 nah, the ally is great.
I had Legion Go since day 1 launch in 2023 and didn't have any problems.
"valve is the one geting in the way" what a load of bullshit, valve dont control linux.
Same with Tim Sweeny's bullshit claim that he won't let anything from Epic run natively on Linux because "everyone who uses Linux is a cheater".
Unless he meant "Valve should use Windows on the Steam Deck", which is the worst idea in the world of bad ideas.
I have a ROG ALLY and you can play games really good. However battery sucks. I understand the Steam Deck is better on that regard? Can you tell us if there is a way to optimize battery? I have tried playing with the lower profile and nothing more than 1 hour maybe 1 hour and a half.
i have a gpd win 3 and a steamdeck, if you play higher end games like elden ring you will also only get about an hour worth of gameplay. what you do with that and the steamdeck is go into the bios of the machine and under clock it, as well as lower settings in the game.
for me its not worth playing like that because it just looks like crap. im usually never too far away from my car so i just charge it there. also would recommend just getting a power brick if you really cant get to an outlet.
@@lxs077 Those 20000 mAh ones? or it has to be bigger?
@@vsuarezp never got one myself so i dont know.
That’s horrible. Why spend that money on a handheld if the battery only gets you 1 hour on good quality?
@@Chris-hc5gs Exactly. I understand the new version the Rog Ally X has doubled the battery capacity but right now the battery is not very good. I won that console on a contest so I didn´t have to pay anything. Other than that it is amazing.
Considering the extremely large game collection that I have for Xbox going all the way back to the 360, if their handheld plays my already owned Xbox games then yeah I would for sure get one. If those games are not going to be playable then I doubt I would get one.
So what is the secret to getting your Raycons staying in your ear. My Everyday Earbuds fall out after 30 or so seconds.
i have samsung ear buds and they stay in, even when i'm sweating really badly at work. the only time i have issues keeping them in is if i'm wearing over ear protection.
Do you have sweaty ears? I have that problem, and I never get any earbud to stay in my ear, it’s a pain in the ass.
@@AlvinFlang69420 Maybe not sweaty, plenty of ear wax, maybe that's the issue.
so, with every other pair of earbuds i have with the memory foam i literally have to force them as far into my ear as they'll go. then they mold and they're good. the raycons just fit my weird ears for some reason lol
gears tactics is amazing I wish there was a sequel
I keep hearing xbox handheld but goal post keep moving when does not come out, and why give hits when few months ago there was hit about it. And i am not against mircosoft making hand held if they to make one be my guest.
Can you rip the DVD and mount it as an iso in steam os?
as far as I know, yes, but maybe must be done in desktop mode
LOL Jimmy just made one of the best arguments for a Windows PC handheld I've ever heard! Very nice. 😂
He wants the simplicity of console but has to jump through all these hoops to play a game. On my legion go its a simple install and play. Sounds a lot simpler to me.
If one game makes a good argument for you, then you don't need to go nearly that far. There are several games that require anti-cheat and don't support it on the Steam Deck or Linux. This one example of something that doesn't run easily on the Steam Deck doesn't mean that it's not simpler to run many other games on the Steam Deck than on other PC handhelds. There's no absolute answer; it depends on what games you want to play and what interface you want to use or are willing to put up with.
@@CFWhitman You're absolutely right. I just found this video funny because of Jimmy's usual disdain for Windows! 😆 The Steam Deck (and SteamOS) is awesome and definitely has its virtues, but so do Windows handhelds (and Windows OS). One is not inherently better than the other in every situation or for every individual!
@@allenfrischWindows needs a debloated, Handheld optimised version of the OS then it would be fine. It’s ultimately what XboxOS is, Windows underneath the hood, but with almost everything it doesn’t need stripped out of it and a console friendly GUI over the top
@@hooky17 Agreed! I want a console interface for Windows handhelds and to be able to easily switch to full Windows mode when necessary--just like on the Deck! I don't particularly love LINUX myself overall, but SteamOS is really slick!
Just want to perfect handheld, power management of the steam deck, screen and detachable controllers of legion and super ease of use of Armory Crate, I own all 3 handhelds and use the legion go more than any.
if you ever figure out a way to get gears of war 2006 running on the steamdeck can you make sure to make a video on it? i have it installed on my gpd win 3, and tried playing it with my nephew, but you cant play split screen. would be nice if i could have it on the steamdeck and we could get a lan connection to play it together that way.
My question is are they really gonna bring steam to Xbox like they were talking about?
You CAN play Xbox/Game Pass games on the deck....Dual boot with Windows.... put in a 2tb drive, 1.2tb for Steam and 725gb for Windows 11.... Can play all my digital/Game Pass games AND modern Call of Duty games... Worthy to do and with Clover, easy to dual boot...
And Gears of War ultimate edition for Windows 10, runs at 60 fps on Windows 11.... really awesome...
Gears 1-3 are so amazing.
A high end poetable xbox that can play xbox series x games natively, gamepass, and windows, and steam would be must buy. It should be 4k when docked and 1080p on the go. Like a series x power docked and series s level on the go.
Making a handheld version of an xbox would be easy, since it’s Microsoft themselves we would get a dedicated OS. Or depending on how powerful, if it is as powerful as a series S, we could have the xbox os
You slimming up buddy?
sounds cool
if I can play my gamepass/native game on the go I'm buying it
Xbox handheld if all Xbox games are compatible and the BS online subscription is ditched? Success.
Xbox handheld if it's literally just a series S in the Deck's form factor? Failure
og xbox and 360 games are a must, and always online a fatal mistake
The issue with the xbox app not working on the steam deck is Microsoft's super convoluted security stuff and how it installs the game. I've looked at the installs and its just weird compared to every other program on windows. So I'll buy a game from the microsoft store for that reason also
Is anybody getting the GPU 400 and CPU 200 bug in the steam deck oled ?
Xbox app not working on Linux is not a Valve issue. Its all on Microsoft. Case and Point the Heroic Game Launcher allows you to Login and Play games you bought Epic on the Steam Deck and Linux in General. Herioc was made by Nerds not Epic
Its all just Microsoft keeping the Source Code Proprietary because they have to do something to keep Gamers from Ditching Windows for Steam. Gamers we may care a lot about Aestectic but we're very Utilitarian beyond that. If it will Play Games with no Fuss or Minimal Tinkering. We'll Use it.
Gears Tactics is slept on hard. That game kicks ass. It's a tactics game on steroids and one of the first games I install on any system since it came out. Have it on my Deck and Go and runs great on both. I love it. There needs to be a sequel.
I have the steam deck OLED. I hope that they make a dedicated Xbox app for it. I tried to get Xbox cloud gaming to work on it. I got the cloud work, but I couldn’t get the controller to work. I followed a guide on RUclips and I think I did all the commands on it so it would see the steam deck controller, but it still didn’t work so I gave up on it when I’m not home. I just play the cloud on my iPad, but I do understand having to have Internet for the steam deck on the go when you are in a car or airplane, defeats the purpose for me because I want to play my games off-line but the other day I was riding in the car and I was playing snow runner and the steam deck version is better than the Nintendo switch version because my mods trucks I can still use them when I am off-line on the deck but on Nintendo switch to be able to use my mods I have to be connected to the Internet, so I don’t play that version on Nintendo switch much anymore. Yesterday I bought Starfield for the deck I know that on the Steam page it says it is not supported but before I bought it, I watched a bunch of RUclips on it and also search Google on it and they said it was playable. You just have to do a little bit of tweaking and there was a post that said if you go into the bio and set your vram to 4gb it will play better. I am going to try that today, but if my steam deck thumb stick ever get stick drift. I hope I can send it into the company to get repaired because I am not tech savvy. If I take it apart, I will probably accidentally break it.
I just want to play CoD, BF, and Destiny natively on my SD. Sick of the anti cheat keeping me from even being able to enjoy the campaign levels without a network connection.
I love the vita screen/size, hated the memory standard and then the abandonment. But the deck, despite the size, just does what it should and continues to get support.
Honestly if Xbox could bring their console OS to PC and have a dual boot that would be interesting. Since I've bought my deck almost 2 yrs ago. Literally my Xbox and even gaming laptop has become pretty much obsolete. I literally just dock my deck to a 15.6 inch Portable monitor and yeah literally have had no issues. The only thing I hate is the OG Decks had shitty WiFi and Bluetooth cards so there's definitely a lag on controller but I just go wired into my dock and yeah it's pretty much solved the lag. Probably won't even upgrade because I've had no problems especially after upgrading to a 2 tb SSD from the Standard 512. I wasn't confident on my ability to work on the deck back in 2022. That's why I shelled 700 for it but hind sight after the OLED deck launch im definitely taking my time whenever my OG deck finally decides to die lol. The handled Market is just amazing and keeps getting better. I just think every other Maker should look at Valves TDP excellence in order to actually compete plus support.
I want physical games though 😞. Bring back cartridges. Nintendo CAN'T be the only one..
that would be amazing
Steam Deck is a niche product as it is and the real benefit is your Steam library instantly being accessible. As cool as the Ally X is I don't need a 2nd handheld. Let alone a 3rd or 4th.
MS could easily take over the handheld market by making a custom version of windows with a portable UI that can switch to desktop mode like Steam OS. It would be steam OS without the jank of Linux
Or just rig game pass to work locally on steam deck like we want it to. You don't need consoles all the time to solve problems, put the time into making your thing work on another device that already has the market like steam deck...
Dude I literally just started playing gears 5 on steam deck lcd and it runs absolutely PERFECT and MP works just fine even at just about max graphics..what CHUUUUU talking bout?
Happy to say first! Great vid bro!👌🏼☺️
My desktop mode has no Internet connection but works fine in game mode very wierd
that is very odd
All I want is to be able to use Xbox game pass on my steam deck and be able to download those games onto my steam deck and not just use the streaming cloud service. Sometimes I don’t have internet and wanna play with no internet connection
There are a lot more casual gamers then there are pro gamers. And those casual gamers have no idea what a steam deck is or that a Playstation portal even exists. More ppl know Nintendo, Xbox & Playstation.
Who has a current xbox library of bought games? Pretty sure it's not that many.
i do haha
I owned the OG Xbox and Xbox 360. Also had the Xbox one . This generation they’ve dropped the ball and I had got ps4 and ps5 . They both out sold Xbox each time ! Steam deck is great ! And I don’t see anything topping it at this juncture
Uhhh if you have Game Pass it doesn't make it less enticing...
All first party games never leave XGP. N the 3rd party games added to XGP day n date are surprisingly good. No reason to hate on people getting their games for cheap.
PS+ games not being available on the Portal is BS
This is no Xbox handheld.
It is hilarious of you to say Valve and Nintendo are the only handles that people care about
Steamdeck can run mods, the Xbox handheld won't beable to..
When I hear Microsoft saying "it's valves fault that the Xbox games don't sync saves" what I hear is "Valve chose Linux instead of Windows so of course we won't do anything"
ally x is the best handheld.
I prefer my aokzoe and my rog ally z1 extreme to my steam deck . That's not to b day I don't love my steam deck but I prefer the others.
at end of day their all just trying to copy success of steam deck so market is getting flooded and there is only so many people that want such a device or already have one so a little too late.
I mean Xbox would just release a cloud gaming handheld lmao
Some great points on the XBox Forza problems. Theres a huge irony here. On the one hand there is this supposed movement to play Xbox on everything. But when the situation arises. That turns out to be complete BS. Microsoft if you want cloud gaming to work spend the money and resources and make it happen. Otherwise we'll just keep calling you out. Good vid.
I will absolutely buy an xbox handheld.
Love how you say that Spencer’s stance on exclusives is bad and then you proceed to complain for half the video about features and games that are exclusive to other storefronts and don’t work on Steam. The irony
Came across your channel. As someone who owns all consoles, I think your comment on Phil about needing more than good games is ridiculous. I know as a PS playstation have bought exclusives., Including years and years of time exclusives of COD, DLC exclusives as well. So he's correct that it takes more than good games. Since you are clearly a Pony, I'm sure you thought the Portal was an awesome handheld 😂.
exclusive games =/= exclusive features lol
Clearly your a play station guy makes sense
It’s called gears five because the war is over, but you would know this if you were a gamer….
Also, the new gears of war e day is called gears of war again because this is when the war started
Go back and read articles about why they changed it before leaving stupid comments
Playstation success is selling consoles but theyre down 29% a year in profits, their own layoffs and shutting down their own studio. Its not all sunshine and rainbow to gloss over. Not to forget they have no big 1st party triple A games coming out in awhile.
Trust:
Microsoft: Nope.
Valve: Yep.
Easy Decision as the end user sorry not sorry.
Yup
I trust all companies equally and I am very excited for an Xbox handheld console.
Just because u can't pirate video games on it doesn't mean its not trust worty!!! 🤷♂️ i know your quirks NORM don't be a 🍆🚴♂️!!!
say less i subscribed at steam deck
Real one
Michaelsoft and ign can kick rocks.
I like the idea of ADATA using CAMM2 Memory modules because if you want upgrade the RAM you can.
I like how you assume that game pass subscribers don't buy games. When it was said that game pass subscribers buy more games than non subscribers. Lol
lol go listen to the latest FPS Podcast episode where they talk to actual devs who say it’s not worth putting a game on Xbox unless it gets a game pass deal because people won’t buy it a la carte anymore.
So if someone likes a Windows handheld. That means they like tinkering more than playing games? Lol come on now. Just because you may not like it doesnt mean everone doesn't. You act like you dont have to tinker with the Steam Deck to get some games to work. I finally got Vampire the Masquerade to work on it. "By Tinkering".
lol. I love my Zune and Microsoft phone. Another steaming device or overpriced kludge.
BRING GAME PASS TO STEAM DECK
right!?
steam deck is the best handheld
No kidding i thought xbox wa gone
Good luck. Everytime Microsoft comes out with a product they don't support it very long and abandon the thing. Windows phone
never trust microsoft is the lesson.
Windows phone was late to the game, it wasn't going to even come close to a reasonable market option for years and be years of loss. it was smarter to end support for that. Not sure of much else that Microsoft doesn't support long aside from the Zune platform. I do miss my Zune HD but it ran into the same issue against the iPod. Everything else has been long supported.
They don't even support their studios. Tango game works anyone?
If they would of create a windows phone that ran .exe it would of be a great Success.
Your thinking of Google. They even have an entire website dedicated to all the things they've killed off.
Yeah, sure, this guy was real "tough" with Phil Spencer. 🤣🤣🤣🤡
why would i lie lol
@@DeckReadyyou’re a gaming RUclipsr looking for clicks, cash, and engagement, why wouldn’t you just make some shit like this up when you’ve got no on-camera interview to prove it? I’ve already added you to my “don’t recommend channel” list, so not sure how the hell this popped up in the first place. 😂
Playstation can release a turd sandwich slap a ps logo on it and it will sell I agree with Phill
What happened to your nose and face? That looks like some pretty bad sunburn.
Acne + sunburn
@@DeckReady oof, I thought as much. Hope it heals up decently.
@@NightSprinteryou’re a weird nerd to mention that
@@NightSprinterlet’s see what you look like
@@DoubleTime999 It's odd to see someone sunburned, and show concern?
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Please, I dont want to buy RayCons !
They're definitely overpriced imo. I had a cheapo $10 pair of Walmart earbuds with more base and treble. I'll admit their actual headphones are pretty good although definitely overpriced. Tbh I've been pleasantly surprised how decent most cheap earbuds are lately compared to any the name brands lately. What can I say I have a habit of them.
Xbox going backwards, just make a remote stream app that links to the console or pc. 😂
I mean like… don’t you own an Asus rog ally? And still forcing steamdeck to play it all?
I use my Nintendo switch 95% of the time on my spare TV. I feel that an Xbox portable is a really poor idea. Xbox has never been able to gain the Japanese market and portables are very popular over there. So, Xbox would have to rely on the west only for sales. This is a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist.
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