The fact that Goku's power level is at 3M and Freeza's is at 60M means that he's putting on a surprisingly good showing, considering Space Hitler is 20x as powerful as our mentally challenged saiyan friend.
Toriyama never said anything about ending the series after namek. He did say he wanted it to be a short series during dragonball but due to how popular it was continued. He himself only spoke of ending the series twicw, during dragonball and before king picollo and then again after goku beat picollo Jr.
I heard he intended on stopping it after the Cell saga, would’ve been the perfect stopping point tbh with us meeting future trunks, Gohan achieving Super Saiyan 2, and Vegeta really showing a new side. Would’ve been a great way to end DBZ as it would’ve felt concluded but also left plenty of openings up for the next series.
@@Spade999 Thats not true either. Toriyama had zero plans to end the show until it ended. Toriyama wanted to end the show after Pilaf. Fans wanted more. Until its actual end Toriyama has never said he wanted to end it after that point.
@@Spade999 Nah he wanted Gohan to become the protagonist, but while writing the first couple chapters he figured out that he had no idea how to write Gohan instead of simply turning him into another Goku (not my words, his) so he thought what the hell might as well just bring Goku back.
Goku was using Kaioken x10 for most of the fight. He bumped it up to x20 for that Kamehameha. The technique was doing more damage to Goku than Freeza did. Super Saiyan is a x50 multiplier, so Kaioken x100 would be comparable to Super Saiyan 2... except it would basically tear the user to shreds in an instant.
08:25 the one second in the abridged show were you can hear the german dub voice of Goku they used that version for editing because it was less censored
Just as an appetizer: chronological order of unexpected hilarious TFS DBZ character improval: Popo - Nappa - Guru - Dende - Android 16 - Imperfect Cell. Seriously, plenty peeps disliking OG ginger bird-loving terminator love the TFS one! Something to look forward to.
Gavdog Kaioken x20 was a seriously big deal, too. There was a genuine concern that going so far would just outright kill Goku. Kaioken x100 would DEFINITELY kill him.
Dont ghost ban me plz There was a clear difference in what was going on with their screen and what we saw. If you pay attention, they stop and then restart the video while we just see the whole thing, then they watch the ending scene when we have already finished the episode. Makes you wonder what their setup is, since what we see is not a recording of the screen as they watch it.
KiokenX20 is the max he has ever done in the anime/manga. The videogames have it at max times 100. It first appeared in budokai 2 as an awoken skill. And is stronger than all the other forms in game other than ssj3.
@@drasilisk2895 yes in actual cannon. But the video games dont follow actual cannon for how they multiply your characters stats. Ssj3 Is gokus second to last awakening skill. KiokenX100 is the last one you unlock as a special reward along with the skill set Breakthrough. (Lets you use all skills but you cant heal or negate capsle effects like Heart virus.)
Akira Toriyama was already a millionaire before he created Dragonball. He made his bank on Doctor Slump. He doesn't do this for the money, if he wants out he gets out. He just likes writing about the Dragonball characters that's the big reason why he kept going. But, by the end of the Buu Saga he got tired and it was less fun for him. Which is why he took a break from the series for so long. Also, no one told him to come back, but around the time they were planning battle of Gods he got inspired again and return to sheppard the series.
>KK the whole time KKx10, rather. AT just suddenly had him that adept with it (and hide it from the viewer). He used KKx2 visibly before with double that (KKx4) blowing his ass out. KKx20 blows his ass out (double KKx10), but it wasn't visible. No real sense to it. Just drama to fake out the viewer though also possible he forgot (as usual). The moment with Kamehameha (low tier as that move is) is odd in that if there was any validity to official PLs (there isn't, just the canon cases), that attack should NOT have been possible for Frieza to just palm with a single arm at 50% and take so little damage...but then we have something like Vegeta eating it earlier when at a disadvantage over 77% (while Dodoria's gap was less than 33% and got insta-killed by some unnamed, low effort attack by 'Geets). >AT wanted to end it at X/Y/Z Not really how it was. A beautiful lie. End of Frieza (with Gokek dying as the SS **maybe sans Vegeta coming back**)? A fine stopping point. End of Cell? Didn't really build to Gohan taking over, but his potential had been teased plenty long enough with a foe having past main villains, his mentor and even his father inside him (the most worthless of those genes beyond the symbolic value here in passing the torch). Buu was him rebelling (unchained). He needed someone to reign his goofy ass in. Ultimately, he was not able to properly finish Gohan's ascent as the MC, regressed and then had Gokek abandon his family with some good sounding bullshit (training Uub to protect the Earth **Vegeta saw right through him**). >AT's money He's got fuck-all. Just trying to avoid prison rape for tax evasion, thus coming back to a loveless relationship with DB (Super). The idea he returned for being upset with Evolution is a hilarious lie.
It's funny that these guys dont know that theres a whole manga out on db and then theres a movie coming out in 2 years Also the creator wanting to end the manga/show at the frieza saga was debunked so was the cell one
Slipped a turd? Has he never puked before?? Also there was a lot more than Super and the abridged. Fans were creating massive fan projects that ended up getting shut down by copyright because they were so big. To be perfectly honest the tournament of power basically rips off the concept of the Dragon Ball Multiverse manga which is a fan created project and its sooo good. Even xenoverse started as a fan project. That's why super was made on top of toriyama really not liking evolution and wanting a continuation that he had a hand in. He likes gt but he didnt make it
if you have already seen the episode watching it again doesnt do anything but waste your time, youtube remembers your ip and wont count you twice for views so its not really supporting them, only those who havent already seen it should go watch it first then come back here.
Captain Hindsight It does count. how do you think music video get billions of views when either most of the world doesn’t understand the music, or isn’t interested in the style of music? Super fans even make it a point to watch they’re fav artist multiple times within the first 24 hours to boost its initial view count and break records. Hell, many sites like RUclips/Facebook are blocked in countries with the highest populations thereby limiting the possibility of the views to get into the Billions. Obviously the original content should get the views, but most , if not all, of the people here have already seen it and aren’t super fans that will got back repeatedly to increase the Original’s view count.
Unfortunately alot of people believe that rumor. As much as I love Dragon Ball I have to admit that our fanbase is one of the most misinformed fanbases in the world.
When people say that rumour they also say "Toriyama intended for Goku to stay dead as the end of the series!" like no bro he was literally revealed to have survived Namek exploding in the VERY NEXT CHAPTER aka the following week.
Guys, love the reaction, but the explicit and long commercial for yourself on a reaction to another youtuber's content feels kinda shady. I dont mind it personally on reactions to for example TV series or anime because i get you guys gotta make some dough too. But on content from other youtubers it just feels wrong.
They tell us to support their work and have an ad for their SPONSOR, not their own merchandise....what's wrong with that? Don't complain about something when there's no issue with it....again, they make sure to shoutout TFS at the beginning of the video before their sponsor.
You guys don't find it odd they put their DBZA reactions on Patreon for 5 bucks while TeamFourStar makes 0 bucks on their actual work? They find it okay for reactors to react to their content. But I never heard them condone putting it on Patreon and monetizing it. I can understand it if someone would call The Normies shady.
Teamfourstar don't care if people react to their videos. If you really feel this way don't watch... you're not standing up for Tfs because like I said they don't care.
I'm going to stop watching this after 30. Mikey is insufferable. He is like only a different wavelength from the world around him and he distracts everyone else from the subject while the video is going on. Then when it comes to actual discussion time, he hasn't got much to say.
Ok, No Akira Toriyama wanting to end at Frieza is false. Since Akira Toriyama is known for having a bad memory and english interviews are rare or mistranslated. This site breaks down why a lot of the AT wanted to finish earlier claims are wrong. www.kanzenshuu.com/intended-end/
The fact that Goku's power level is at 3M and Freeza's is at 60M means that he's putting on a surprisingly good showing, considering Space Hitler is 20x as powerful as our mentally challenged saiyan friend.
Best description ever :D
Power levels are bullshit
You mean Space Napol-Hitler
Yup, power levels are bullshit.
you gotta remember frieza was holding back greatly and didn't use half his power/60 million until goku used kaioken times 20
8:46 For those of you that didn’t catch it, those scores are their power levels.
Hiti67 vagetas was higher
Frieza: You are literally too stupid to insult.
Goku: Thank you.
It was Kaio-ken x20. 20 was the highest he went up to before he stopped using it (until Super of course.)
blank x20 is his max. He still uses x20 with ssj blue
He used it against zamasu
Eli and against hit and Jiren
Jona Laurenson but he’s in blue so it’s more strain on his body than when he’s in base form.
Sitting Crowd he trained his body to handle the stress while using kaioken in ssjb
Toriyama never said anything about ending the series after namek. He did say he wanted it to be a short series during dragonball but due to how popular it was continued. He himself only spoke of ending the series twicw, during dragonball and before king picollo and then again after goku beat picollo Jr.
Pretty sure he intended to end it after Cell but the editorial pushed him to continue it.
I thought he wanted to end it after the cell saga
I heard he intended on stopping it after the Cell saga, would’ve been the perfect stopping point tbh with us meeting future trunks, Gohan achieving Super Saiyan 2, and Vegeta really showing a new side. Would’ve been a great way to end DBZ as it would’ve felt concluded but also left plenty of openings up for the next series.
@@Spade999 Thats not true either. Toriyama had zero plans to end the show until it ended. Toriyama wanted to end the show after Pilaf. Fans wanted more. Until its actual end Toriyama has never said he wanted to end it after that point.
@@Spade999 Nah he wanted Gohan to become the protagonist, but while writing the first couple chapters he figured out that he had no idea how to write Gohan instead of simply turning him into another Goku (not my words, his) so he thought what the hell might as well just bring Goku back.
I remember the guy who plays Goku saying this is the episode they finally settled on how to portray him
Goku was using Kaioken x10 for most of the fight. He bumped it up to x20 for that Kamehameha. The technique was doing more damage to Goku than Freeza did.
Super Saiyan is a x50 multiplier, so Kaioken x100 would be comparable to Super Saiyan 2... except it would basically tear the user to shreds in an instant.
He did ki o ken 10 for most of the fight, it’s when he did x20 when he hurt frieza
RUclips Bot And when freeza was starting to get worried by how a saiyan could be that powerful
Great job guys. You're channel has grown so well. Y'all are 10x more relaxed and laid back. 10/10
08:25 the one second in the abridged show were you can hear the german dub voice of Goku
they used that version for editing because it was less censored
Just as an appetizer: chronological order of unexpected hilarious TFS DBZ character improval: Popo - Nappa - Guru - Dende - Android 16 - Imperfect Cell. Seriously, plenty peeps disliking OG ginger bird-loving terminator love the TFS one! Something to look forward to.
If you watch these with Canadian subtitles they added in a whole bunch of extra jokes & inside stuff about the series
Idk why but that part 1:48 with him saying "meh" ia like me when goku dies again and again
did you just say kaioken times 100??? that was kaioken times 20. Even in super he can only use kaioken times 20.
Ya ik
I was thinking the same thing. I didn’t know the specific number but I knew it wasn’t 100.
Gavdog Kaioken x20 was a seriously big deal, too. There was a genuine concern that going so far would just outright kill Goku. Kaioken x100 would DEFINITELY kill him.
@@SchwickFAFO lol..if it was x100 then freeza would have lost the battle before Super Saiyan even happened..(crazy guy huh)..
JustCallMeSchwick
It should be x20 if I’m not mistaken
P-DoRsXLimbo94OdAmA.RaSeNgAn!! Considering that Super Saiyan is a x50 multiplier, Kaioken x100 would have probably prevented Namek from exploding.
"Isnt there usually a joke at the end of the episode" they said whilst they weren't paying attention to the final joke at the end of the episode XD
Racome thanks you.
Dont ghost ban me plz There was a clear difference in what was going on with their screen and what we saw. If you pay attention, they stop and then restart the video while we just see the whole thing, then they watch the ending scene when we have already finished the episode.
Makes you wonder what their setup is, since what we see is not a recording of the screen as they watch it.
@@chrisschoenthaler5184 you are right, a bit hasty on my part
A double drop? What's the occasion?
To quote Goku- "Its Christmmmmmmmas!"
@@FierceDeity35 😂👍
I dunno, some gift stuff.
Might catch on one day.
KiokenX20 is the max he has ever done in the anime/manga.
The videogames have it at max times 100. It first appeared in budokai 2 as an awoken skill. And is stronger than all the other forms in game other than ssj3.
Times 100 would just be SS2 but with more strain on your body.
@@drasilisk2895 yes in actual cannon.
But the video games dont follow actual cannon for how they multiply your characters stats.
Ssj3 Is gokus second to last awakening skill. KiokenX100 is the last one you unlock as a special reward along with the skill set Breakthrough. (Lets you use all skills but you cant heal or negate capsle effects like Heart virus.)
Editor asleep at the wheel for the post credit?
Akira Toriyama was already a millionaire before he created Dragonball. He made his bank on Doctor Slump. He doesn't do this for the money, if he wants out he gets out. He just likes writing about the Dragonball characters that's the big reason why he kept going. But, by the end of the Buu Saga he got tired and it was less fun for him. Which is why he took a break from the series for so long. Also, no one told him to come back, but around the time they were planning battle of Gods he got inspired again and return to sheppard the series.
Huh, the fight with Frieza is a lot more one sided than I thought.
Do they know to watch the cut end-credits scene from episode 30?
2nd episode?..hell yeah dude let's go 😃
Where we going? 🤔
Nobody can ever say Kaio-Ken on this show.😂😂
1:14 to skip intro
(skips to the reaction itself since that's what most people are here for)
kaioken x100? seriously??
It was x20 if i remember correctly
Bruh calm down its probably been a while since hes seen this scene so dont blame em
Goku actually did use x100 against Slug. But the highest multiplier in the series proper was against Frieza, at x20.
Maybe he got them mixed up.
@@christiancinnabars1402 are you sure because x100 is the same multiplier as super saiyan 2 and 50 is super saiyan 1
@@christiancinnabars1402 That was false supersaiyan
WITCHER !!
lol if goku could use kaioken times 100 he would be twice as strong as super saiyan on namek since u know super saiyan is 50 times his current power
Love this So much
Frieza can't understand Goku's stupidity
Eyy two episodes!!! Thanks!
2 Episodes ? Thank you Santa😁
Nice one Normies
HE DIDN'T INVITE ME TO HIS BIRTHDAY PARTYY!!!!!!!!!!
You monster frisbee!
Shout out to the Normies for 2 eps
I wish they would stop comparing and talking about the original and let it tell it's own version of the story.
I thought when you look like something twice it takes away the previous like?
>KK the whole time
KKx10, rather. AT just suddenly had him that adept with it (and hide it from the viewer). He used KKx2 visibly before with double that (KKx4) blowing his ass out. KKx20 blows his ass out (double KKx10), but it wasn't visible. No real sense to it. Just drama to fake out the viewer though also possible he forgot (as usual).
The moment with Kamehameha (low tier as that move is) is odd in that if there was any validity to official PLs (there isn't, just the canon cases), that attack should NOT have been possible for Frieza to just palm with a single arm at 50% and take so little damage...but then we have something like Vegeta eating it earlier when at a disadvantage over 77% (while Dodoria's gap was less than 33% and got insta-killed by some unnamed, low effort attack by 'Geets).
>AT wanted to end it at X/Y/Z
Not really how it was. A beautiful lie. End of Frieza (with Gokek dying as the SS **maybe sans Vegeta coming back**)? A fine stopping point. End of Cell? Didn't really build to Gohan taking over, but his potential had been teased plenty long enough with a foe having past main villains, his mentor and even his father inside him (the most worthless of those genes beyond the symbolic value here in passing the torch). Buu was him rebelling (unchained). He needed someone to reign his goofy ass in. Ultimately, he was not able to properly finish Gohan's ascent as the MC, regressed and then had Gokek abandon his family with some good sounding bullshit (training Uub to protect the Earth **Vegeta saw right through him**).
>AT's money
He's got fuck-all. Just trying to avoid prison rape for tax evasion, thus coming back to a loveless relationship with DB (Super). The idea he returned for being upset with Evolution is a hilarious lie.
You guys missed a lot of great and funny dialogue because you were talking too much
On other news, water is wet
Eat shit
Kaioken x100 seriously? If Goku did that Frieza would have died right there.
No goku's body would've been completely torn apart before he could do that.
It's funny that these guys dont know that theres a whole manga out on db and then theres a movie coming out in 2 years
Also the creator wanting to end the manga/show at the frieza saga was debunked so was the cell one
Slipped a turd? Has he never puked before??
Also there was a lot more than Super and the abridged. Fans were creating massive fan projects that ended up getting shut down by copyright because they were so big. To be perfectly honest the tournament of power basically rips off the concept of the Dragon Ball Multiverse manga which is a fan created project and its sooo good. Even xenoverse started as a fan project. That's why super was made on top of toriyama really not liking evolution and wanting a continuation that he had a hand in. He likes gt but he didnt make it
For those of ya who didnt know Freezer is the name of the character in the Latino dub XD XD XD
if you have already seen the episode watching it again doesnt do anything but waste your time, youtube remembers your ip and wont count you twice for views so its not really supporting them, only those who havent already seen it should go watch it first then come back here.
Captain Hindsight
It does count. how do you think music video get billions of views when either most of the world doesn’t understand the music, or isn’t interested in the style of music?
Super fans even make it a point to watch they’re fav artist multiple times within the first 24 hours to boost its initial view count and break records.
Hell, many sites like RUclips/Facebook are blocked in countries with the highest populations thereby limiting the possibility of the views to get into the Billions.
Obviously the original content should get the views, but most , if not all, of the people here have already seen it and aren’t super fans that will got back repeatedly to increase the Original’s view count.
suraj do some research pal , there's no indication Toriyama wanted to end it here.
dope nothing better you could reacted to expect more HxH
What is this crap. Lol Toriyama never wanted to finish at Namek.
Unfortunately alot of people believe that rumor. As much as I love Dragon Ball I have to admit that our fanbase is one of the most misinformed fanbases in the world.
I've never even heard that one before today. The only time I've heard of him wanting to end it was after Cell.
A lot of Normies regurgitate that nonsense and The Normies also just often repeat what they hear from 1 person on Discord lol
When people say that rumour they also say "Toriyama intended for Goku to stay dead as the end of the series!" like no bro he was literally revealed to have survived Namek exploding in the VERY NEXT CHAPTER aka the following week.
watch dbz abridged lets get down to bussines
kaioken x10
-x10- _x20_
React to the movies! Broly is the best
Guys, love the reaction, but the explicit and long commercial for yourself on a reaction to another youtuber's content feels kinda shady. I dont mind it personally on reactions to for example TV series or anime because i get you guys gotta make some dough too. But on content from other youtubers it just feels wrong.
They tell us to support their work and have an ad for their SPONSOR, not their own merchandise....what's wrong with that? Don't complain about something when there's no issue with it....again, they make sure to shoutout TFS at the beginning of the video before their sponsor.
@@dayoldeggplant look im just saying to me it feels shady. Doesnt mean they HAVE to stop. But i am free to give my opinion on the subject.
You guys don't find it odd they put their DBZA reactions on Patreon for 5 bucks while TeamFourStar makes 0 bucks on their actual work? They find it okay for reactors to react to their content. But I never heard them condone putting it on Patreon and monetizing it. I can understand it if someone would call The Normies shady.
Teamfourstar don't care if people react to their videos. If you really feel this way don't watch... you're not standing up for Tfs because like I said they don't care.
@@Shaneo0oo TFS has indeed stated that it's okay to react to DBZA, but they never said put it on Patreon and monetize it lol.
I'm going to stop watching this after 30. Mikey is insufferable. He is like only a different wavelength from the world around him and he distracts everyone else from the subject while the video is going on.
Then when it comes to actual discussion time, he hasn't got much to say.
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Ok, No Akira Toriyama wanting to end at Frieza is false. Since Akira Toriyama is known for having a bad memory and english interviews are rare or mistranslated. This site breaks down why a lot of the AT wanted to finish earlier claims are wrong.
www.kanzenshuu.com/intended-end/
First
You react to this when you could've watched something like His Dark Materials.
They sure do. Isn't it great?
this is absolutely brilliant and im glad they chose this
Dbza is fantastic and i’ve never even heard of his dark materials lmao
Sounds like a smart decision on their part.
Yo thanks bro you just made me realise they redone the golden compass what a result