Cards in: Calix, guided by fate Kodama of the west tree Skybind One with the Kami Sram, senior edificer Song of the dryads Darksteel mutation Grasp of fate Flickering ward Hallowed haunting Cards out: Tithe taker Liberated livestock Ox drover Syr armont, the redeemer Timber paladin Warbriar blessing Daybreak coronet Giant inheritance 1 Forest
4:33 Minor correction, but since you guys made a point to explain this I thought it was worth pointing out: you don't actually get to choose. By default, the newest role stays and all the other ones fall off. You only get to choose which role to keep if an effect attaches multiple of your roles to a creature *at the same time* .
I would love to see the fetish carnival display more of its showmanship when we ever return to Ravnica by putting on a big play with roles!! Not to mention Black/Red enchantment-matters would be a very novel theme to see fleshed out!
Why would you want a guild mechanic that doesn't work with the old guild mechanics? There are enough other Magic sets to explore different sides of color pairs.
Highly recommend throwing On Serra’s wings into this deck. Only a 10-20 cent card too. Enchantment, aura, 4 cost for +1 + 1 and flying, vigilance, and life link. Put it on the commander, and she’s a force, and commander damage becomes a real concern.
Timberland Paladin is a BEAST! 1/3 auras is taken care of through Ellivere's virtous role. Getting 10/10 BASE p/t, and then counters, with trample and vigilance is well worth it. Throw reach or Flying on him and he's a force to be reckoned with for sure!
It is very good for a casual environment. At higher level tables, it's too much investment in a creature with no protection for it to be reliable lr consistent
I really appreciate the both of you giving the breakdown for this pre-con. I was able to preorder each deck for $32.50 from our LGS. Can't wait for the Faerie deck breakdown. Thank you for the video.
34:00 The timing on Skybind is little tricky if you want Ellivere around for the combat phase for her 2nd line of text, but workable if careful! You would want to cast Skybind in the 2nd main phase, blink Ellivere but then her token ETB triggers Skybind again so you'd want to either 1) target another permanent (probably an opponent's) if you want Ellivere around for your next combat phase or 2) target Ellivere if you're more worried about an impending boardwipe. But given she's re-castable as your commander, maybe option 1 will be optimal more often as you also slow down your opponents - but you'd also need to save another enchantment ETB for the 2nd main phase each turn! *Insert Julia Roberts Maths meme*
Long time Kestia auras player and lover of enchantments with some more recommendations! - Light-Paws, Emperor's Voice: great cheap creature, synergises with aura EtBs. - Sythis, Harvest's Hand: a far better Sram that draws from all enchantment casts, and is an enchantment. - Danitha, New Benalia's Light: aura recursion is important, and also holds auras well. - Resurgent Belief: honestly, waiting 2 turns for this isn't bad, and at 2 mana you can play it proactively. - Spirit Mantle: cheap unblockable aura. - Out of Time: cheap board wipe on an enchantment. Also phases out, so your creatures still have their auras if it's removed. - Pattern of Rebirth: makes people not want to remove your scary creature, and provides a backup if they do. Cards like this and One with the Kami that help you keep board presence are really good! - Sigil of the Empty Throne: maybe a bit slow, but 4/4 fliers will do well with your commander's buffing role tokens. - Eldrazi Conscription: if you want to go big! Putting some more in a reply to this for anyone who wants to read on!
@@SupremeChalupaSnoke thanks :) Yeah, I've found it really quite nice. There's also Guardian of Faith, which isn't an enchantment, but is a creature, so synergises in that other way (also has flash, which is a big help).
@@charliemarlow647 I love the cards thank you so much for the great ideas! Just got this precon and I really like the auras. I was thinking with all the great ETBs it would be nice to add Elesh Norn Mother of Machines into the mix to double up on all ETB triggers.
@@buddyguy2669 Thanks, happy to hear you liked some ideas :) Elesh Norn is a great idea! Her vigilance also works really nicely in combination with a lot of auras. Hope you have fun!
I started picking out cards for this deck as soon as I saw the face commander. Lots of enchantment creatures like humbler of mortals, forerunner of nylea, and Archetype of courage. I even included karametra (who provides a great ammount of ramp) and heliod (the one that makes more enchantment creatures). Boon of the spirit relm goes crazy in this deck.
I like this precon because it allows me to have a go wide enchantress smasher deck, something that I haven't been able to do as I always have to do a voltron type strategies for these decks.
Hi, I am new to Magic. But I got this deck and have played it a couple of times. I know you said don’t make it voltron… but I did that and I did some damage … didn’t win.. but I was competitive. Which is a good outcome for a newbie like me. Now suppose I want make Ellevere a Death Star … I have decided to get Nylea God of the hunt. Give everything trample and can for an expensive mana spend pump up a creature. And she can’t be destroyed. Awesome.
Also new to magic. I just played a 5 commander game that I came 2nd in as the first game with this deck. My favorite thing that happened was I had a really wide board with big creatures but got board wiped. However there are a couple cards that let you retrieve ALL of your enchant creature auras from your graveyard and put them on the battlefield on a creature. Two of the other players were playing mill so there were a LOT in there. So after managing to get at least one creature out my board suddenly became a Voltron board in a last ditch attempt. The deck is a lot of fun with the kind of things it’s able to do out of the box. Only ended up losing to a red-blue deck that managed to do damage with sorcery casting and I couldn’t counter. So much fun.
Some funny role-token-related additions: - Jaheira, Friend of the Forest lets your Role auras tap for mana. That’s a whole lotta free green! - Cadira, Caller of the Small similarly has makes bunnies for each Role token you have and also has that sweet sweet Trample. Could turn into a very hare-y situation very quickly!
I was coming to say Jaheira would work too. Also since roles are tokens I was thinking about Parallel Lives/Anointed Procession to double the output and they’re both also enchantments so would be fine includes if you have them.
I kept Giant Inheritance in my list because I added some more ways to make tokens consistently and being able to make a 1/1 into 7/7 with trample is pretty good.
On the subject of the Timber Paladin, building him up like Voltron was precisely how I won my last game lmao. Ended up with a 34/34 Timber Paladin with flying, lifelink, trample, vigilance, first strike, and indestructible.
Hear me out: Cadira, Caller of the Small - 3 mana 3/3 natural trample that curves into a 4/4 with an aura attached to it off the commander that makes minimum 1 rabbit when it connects and thats the absolute floor - it goes up from there. Plus the rabbit tokens are cute
Im in the mist of ordering a BANT deck and all the glitters is a really good one to add. Cheap with a massive pay off late game if your board state is on point
I just picked this deck up at my local shop for $20. I have never tried Enchantress, so for $20 and $4 for sleeves I figured why not? Thank you for the ideas. I have some of these cards, so I won’t spend $50 upgrading it, but the ideas are helpful.
Just ordered this precon online couple days ago since I missed out on it when we got it. Got it for $30. I also ordered more Auras for the deck as well, can't wait to get the deck & try it out!
Cutting daybreak coronet seems really odd to me. Yes it can be awkward because our commander puts on auras at the beginning of combat, so you need a creature to hang around for a turn with a role on it, but if you do - the coronet gets you like 10 point life swing per turn? Seems like the kind of all star that helps your grind out casual games
Plus even without the commander this is an aura deck so not that hard to have an enchanted thing. Cutting timber palladin also really confused me, commander enables the first aura then slap 2 more and you have a game ending threat
Thought I might suggest something: when comparing the reprint value to other sets, it would be cool if the highest PreCon reprint value from that set was mentioned rather than just the average value. Kinda hard to compare when there’s so much variance in reprint value on a set by set basis.
He just fit the budget better honestly! It's not much of a difference but at least at the time I made the list we were pretty close to exactly $50 and I didn't want to go over.
4:25 so what you are saying is, you can't turn one of your creatures into "the beast" from beauty and the beast, because he was both a monster and a royal one at that so he had the monster role and the royal role on him I would take out about 3 lands here. for those 3 lands I would add Ardenn, Intrepid Archaeologist, so you can move your auras around, you can move the roles on your commander that she makes. I would also add "Sythis, Harvest's Hand" because she's another draw engine and you can never have too many. and my lastt one would be "Teleportation circle". So: 3 lands out and put in "Ardenn, Intrepid Archaeologist", "Sythis, Harvest's Hand" & "Teleportation circle". If you are not putting "Shielded by faith" into the deck, I would take out Siona, captain of the pleas. I guess it makes lots of tokens here, but does it do enough? I'm cutting that one instead of the Timber paladin, which I think does work with the upgrades I'm making. same with Daybreak coronet, I cut the realm-cloaked Giant instead. So I ended with 35 lands but the average cmc is 1.88 so I think that is ok. I am planning on building more Baldurs gate decks. I have Raggadragga, but I wanna do Lae'zel + Master Chef (+1/+1 theme) and Abdel Adrian + Agent of the Iron throne (blink theme) and "Baeloth Barrityl, Entertainer + Raised by Giants, which is a goad deck and maybe Wilson, Refined Grizzly + Raised by Giants which is a voltron deck. I have played Baldursgate 3 a little bit and I am enjoying it so far, but my problem with it is the same problem i had with Divinity Original Sin 2, I keep restarting the game because I think of something different I want to try instead of finishing the game first lol.
Technically, he would have had a Royal role token on him, been cursed and replaced it with a Monster Role token and then through Belle, replaced the Monster Role token with a Royal role token, so it works fine within MTG.
Ox Drover wants to fight Changelings. Which I don't think will ever happen...but it's interesting. Going to go look for a way to give my opponents Changeling for a turn.
Didn't see anyone mentioning the sad reality that most of the outtakes are new cards. Just bad new ones this time around that don't make any cut against the great history of enchantment decks. Sad to buy a reprint deck to take all the new cards out.
20:25 WotC: "Hall of Heliod's Generosity seems like a good land inclusion in an enchantment deck. Let's pat our backs on that one." MtG community: *cough* "Sliver Hive?" *cough*
I feel like the roles are the new Rhystic study (“do you want to pay the one?”) with You: “…and it comes in with an [insert chosen role] token”… Opponents: “…what does that one do again?”
I've never considering blinking Ellivere, that's smart in theory. However, that would remove any auras on her, based on what I've read. Given how she's essentially the backbone of the deck to make creatures stompy, I'd much rather have the protection, and proc her ability through combat.
That's the point, you put auras on other creatures ellivere is not your beater she's the one placing an aura on others that give +1/+1 for EACH enchantment.
If WoTC’s Amazon storefront is any indication of actual LGS price, the decks are being sold at $50. Amazon usually has discounts, but that’s the marketed price
Noone at Mt LGS wants this they are selling for only $27. In fact they wouldn't even open a new box to get the fairy deck, but I convinces then to since I bought both
Is there a place where I could scan the cards I have and it would tell me which ones would work well together in a commander deck? I’m getting back into magic after more that a decade without playing and I’m not sure if the old cards I have are any good for a deck. Back in the day I didn’t play commander (I’m not even sure it was a thing back then) but now I want to get into it. Thanks!
Go with whichever one your gut feels attached to. As someone that bought more than 10 precons over the last two years, every deck is “good enough” and you will find yourself reaching for the deck you just like more. I personally like leaning into the flavour of the deck or theme. I tend to like tribal decks (for example faeries). Both of these decks are great decks out of the box, and if you really like them and like playing them, you might enjoy spending a bit of money upgrading them over time. Have fun and welcome!
Um. I'm kind of new. This deck seems a bit "read-ie." I know it's simple to most but I try to avoid the ones where you have to read and then reread again and kind over strat. I'm it sure about the other deck. The 40k decks seemed to have easier barrier of entry.
I think they are both a ton of fun, but the Fae Dominion precon is going to be more straight-forward to learn and will reward you the most for getting better at playing. This precon is very focused around the Role mechanic which isn't necessarily important for a new player to learn.
I love this dude with the beard hes so chill low key rachel is kinda an awesome host too feel like she a real person and understands this job is kinda goofy but rocks it anyway but also love to josh and jimmy even though josh wins likely every game knights with the same damn cards i feel like hes very smart like maybe genius level IQ low key and well spoken and low key prof fell off this channel better now his reviews are so inconsistent like wtf your videos are so much better for seeing if i should get a product even tho its basically just a podcast so its kinda cheating
I think there's a chance he's stronger depending on how you build the deck, I just think that out of the box he needs more changes to be viable. I'd love to see a deck built around him though
Those are traditionally the “good guys” colors in MTG, with blue being neutral and Rakdos being the “bad guys”. Nothing new (Phyrexia shook it up a bit and spread the evil around).
That's fair. You could always cut another land or find a different cut somewhere. I haven't played with the card, so maybe it'll be better than we expect. It just seems like it'll take a lot to get the payoff
First off, anyone who plays song of the dryads should be banned from commander for life. Second, I really wish they'd go back to the 20$ budget upgrades. With the cost of the precons already getting more and more expensive, adding even more cost on top of that just hurts.
@@BigxRedxDogSong of the Dryads is a notorious "no more commander for you" card, since it doesn't move the commander to another zone (so you can't send your commander back to the command zone) and lands are extremely hard to get rid of to force your commander back to the zone.
What do you think of the “Virtue and Valor” precon? Any cards we missed? Any cards we suggested to take out or add that you disagree with?
I’m thinking of getting and putting light paws in it
I bought it right during your reviwe. But im going to change it a bit and play Gylwain. Sounds super fun for my first enchantress deck.
What’s your thoughts on the token error?
A good aura to put in would be rancor. When it goes to your graveyard, it bounces back to your hand and ready to be cast again.
Teferi's protection, Heroic intervention, guardian of fate
Gylwain, Casting Director doesn't give roles to tokens because tokens are the extras.
That comment does need the "double seasoning" it deserves. Way to go Dylanh1647
I am furious at how obvious this is in retrospect.
I echo that this comment needs the most comments and likes attached to it! This comment needs to be the STAR of the show.
Tokens are the under studies. Waiting in the wings
Cards in:
Calix, guided by fate
Kodama of the west tree
Skybind
One with the Kami
Sram, senior edificer
Song of the dryads
Darksteel mutation
Grasp of fate
Flickering ward
Hallowed haunting
Cards out:
Tithe taker
Liberated livestock
Ox drover
Syr armont, the redeemer
Timber paladin
Warbriar blessing
Daybreak coronet
Giant inheritance
1 Forest
The goat! Thank you!
cards out only lists 9...
@@bernatrosello4375take out 1 forest basic land that makes 10.
@@bernatrosello4375 Missed the Sylvan Ranger.
4:33 Minor correction, but since you guys made a point to explain this I thought it was worth pointing out: you don't actually get to choose. By default, the newest role stays and all the other ones fall off. You only get to choose which role to keep if an effect attaches multiple of your roles to a creature *at the same time* .
I just noticed: Roles could be a mechanic for the Cult of Rakdos in the future, Rakdos enchantment seems like a nice novelty
Would love that as a new Rakdos style of play.
That would be great for the return of the retrun of the return of the return to Ravnica
@@mastermemorexreturn of the revenge of the comeback of vengeance of the son to Ravnica 2
I would love to see the fetish carnival display more of its showmanship when we ever return to Ravnica by putting on a big play with roles!! Not to mention Black/Red enchantment-matters would be a very novel theme to see fleshed out!
Why would you want a guild mechanic that doesn't work with the old guild mechanics? There are enough other Magic sets to explore different sides of color pairs.
Highly recommend throwing On Serra’s wings into this deck. Only a 10-20 cent card too. Enchantment, aura, 4 cost for +1 + 1 and flying, vigilance, and life link. Put it on the commander, and she’s a force, and commander damage becomes a real concern.
Timberland Paladin is a BEAST! 1/3 auras is taken care of through Ellivere's virtous role. Getting 10/10 BASE p/t, and then counters, with trample and vigilance is well worth it. Throw reach or Flying on him and he's a force to be reckoned with for sure!
It is very good for a casual environment. At higher level tables, it's too much investment in a creature with no protection for it to be reliable lr consistent
Flickering Ward + Hallowed Haunting would be a fun little trick in my casual group. May have to pick this one up and do a little upgrading.
Thank you all! Not sure if Jordan reads these comments, but it's always nice seeing him give his insights! :)
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I really appreciate the both of you giving the breakdown for this pre-con. I was able to preorder each deck for $32.50 from our LGS. Can't wait for the Faerie deck breakdown. Thank you for the video.
34:00 The timing on Skybind is little tricky if you want Ellivere around for the combat phase for her 2nd line of text, but workable if careful! You would want to cast Skybind in the 2nd main phase, blink Ellivere but then her token ETB triggers Skybind again so you'd want to either 1) target another permanent (probably an opponent's) if you want Ellivere around for your next combat phase or 2) target Ellivere if you're more worried about an impending boardwipe. But given she's re-castable as your commander, maybe option 1 will be optimal more often as you also slow down your opponents - but you'd also need to save another enchantment ETB for the 2nd main phase each turn! *Insert Julia Roberts Maths meme*
Long time Kestia auras player and lover of enchantments with some more recommendations!
- Light-Paws, Emperor's Voice: great cheap creature, synergises with aura EtBs.
- Sythis, Harvest's Hand: a far better Sram that draws from all enchantment casts, and is an enchantment.
- Danitha, New Benalia's Light: aura recursion is important, and also holds auras well.
- Resurgent Belief: honestly, waiting 2 turns for this isn't bad, and at 2 mana you can play it proactively.
- Spirit Mantle: cheap unblockable aura.
- Out of Time: cheap board wipe on an enchantment. Also phases out, so your creatures still have their auras if it's removed.
- Pattern of Rebirth: makes people not want to remove your scary creature, and provides a backup if they do. Cards like this and One with the Kami that help you keep board presence are really good!
- Sigil of the Empty Throne: maybe a bit slow, but 4/4 fliers will do well with your commander's buffing role tokens.
- Eldrazi Conscription: if you want to go big!
Putting some more in a reply to this for anyone who wants to read on!
the phasing is a great idea! could be a sweet way to defend your big boppers.
@@SupremeChalupaSnoke thanks :) Yeah, I've found it really quite nice. There's also Guardian of Faith, which isn't an enchantment, but is a creature, so synergises in that other way (also has flash, which is a big help).
@@charliemarlow647 I love the cards thank you so much for the great ideas! Just got this precon and I really like the auras. I was thinking with all the great ETBs it would be nice to add Elesh Norn Mother of Machines into the mix to double up on all ETB triggers.
@@buddyguy2669 Thanks, happy to hear you liked some ideas :) Elesh Norn is a great idea! Her vigilance also works really nicely in combination with a lot of auras. Hope you have fun!
I started picking out cards for this deck as soon as I saw the face commander. Lots of enchantment creatures like humbler of mortals, forerunner of nylea, and Archetype of courage. I even included karametra (who provides a great ammount of ramp) and heliod (the one that makes more enchantment creatures).
Boon of the spirit relm goes crazy in this deck.
Enchantment creatures are great for Ellivere because they can be used as role targets AND they increase the enchantment count.
Everyone in my playgroup is always afraid when when bring out my timber paladin. It stays 😂
Thank you to whoever animated the ouphe hydra 😂
Even more terrifying would be if all of its heads were Niall Silvain.
Really love that the whole team is being showcased. Love Josh and jimmy, and love getting to hear from so many perspectives too.
One of my favorite episode types are the roundhouse ones when they pick a topic and get everyone's opinions.
I like this precon because it allows me to have a go wide enchantress smasher deck, something that I haven't been able to do as I always have to do a voltron type strategies for these decks.
First time magic player, first deck i bought im upgrading and liking it. A lot rules to know
I just got this deck last month, and I'm excited to upgrade it with the cards you suggested!!
Hi, I am new to Magic. But I got this deck and have played it a couple of times. I know you said don’t make it voltron… but I did that and I did some damage … didn’t win.. but I was competitive. Which is a good outcome for a newbie like me. Now suppose I want make Ellevere a Death Star … I have decided to get Nylea God of the hunt. Give everything trample and can for an expensive mana spend pump up a creature. And she can’t be destroyed. Awesome.
Also new to magic. I just played a 5 commander game that I came 2nd in as the first game with this deck. My favorite thing that happened was I had a really wide board with big creatures but got board wiped. However there are a couple cards that let you retrieve ALL of your enchant creature auras from your graveyard and put them on the battlefield on a creature. Two of the other players were playing mill so there were a LOT in there. So after managing to get at least one creature out my board suddenly became a Voltron board in a last ditch attempt. The deck is a lot of fun with the kind of things it’s able to do out of the box. Only ended up losing to a red-blue deck that managed to do damage with sorcery casting and I couldn’t counter. So much fun.
Timber paladin is so cool though D:
Some funny role-token-related additions:
- Jaheira, Friend of the Forest lets your Role auras tap for mana. That’s a whole lotta free green!
- Cadira, Caller of the Small similarly has makes bunnies for each Role token you have and also has that sweet sweet Trample. Could turn into a very hare-y situation very quickly!
Oh yeah dang Jaheria works great! Both of those seem like great includes.
I was coming to say Jaheira would work too. Also since roles are tokens I was thinking about Parallel Lives/Anointed Procession to double the output and they’re both also enchantments so would be fine includes if you have them.
Dude i was thinking to add cadria for bunnies, but didnt even think about the token synergy with jaheira nice find!
Oh I love this deck. I'm gonna get it and take all the good cards out and put them in my mazzy deck 😁😁
Honestly, same!
Mazzy is amazing. This precon is for Mazzy, plus The war doctor
I kept Giant Inheritance in my list because I added some more ways to make tokens consistently and being able to make a 1/1 into 7/7 with trample is pretty good.
I've played this deck out of box and it has done very well. Can't wait to upgrade it
On the subject of the Timber Paladin, building him up like Voltron was precisely how I won my last game lmao. Ended up with a 34/34 Timber Paladin with flying, lifelink, trample, vigilance, first strike, and indestructible.
Hear me out:
Cadira, Caller of the Small - 3 mana 3/3 natural trample that curves into a 4/4 with an aura attached to it off the commander that makes minimum 1 rabbit when it connects and thats the absolute floor - it goes up from there. Plus the rabbit tokens are cute
Shes really good in this deck, ima add that in for sure.
Jordans shirt was really trippy. In my peripherals when checking my phone, the "chain links" were popping out as if it were a 3D shirt
Im in the mist of ordering a BANT deck and all the glitters is a really good one to add. Cheap with a massive pay off late game if your board state is on point
I just picked this deck up at my local shop for $20. I have never tried Enchantress, so for $20 and $4 for sleeves I figured why not? Thank you for the ideas. I have some of these cards, so I won’t spend $50 upgrading it, but the ideas are helpful.
39:24 Grasp of Fate is now just an uncommon on the Enchanting Tales sheet! So it’ll be ~$0.50 or instead of the $4.00 now! woot
Actually just ran a Karlach deck for the midweek brawl event on Arena solely because of enjoying her in the game.
Just ordered this precon online couple days ago since I missed out on it when we got it. Got it for $30. I also ordered more Auras for the deck as well, can't wait to get the deck & try it out!
where did you get it?
@oliviatorres5906 CardKingdom! Just came in the mail a little over a week ago and loving the deck so far!
This set seems like a lot of fun. Still looking forward to Caverns of Ixalan though.
Same! Was literally just thinking this 😂
@@washadaI'm definitely going to name a Red wall/Hobbit/Ent deck of I can
Cutting daybreak coronet seems really odd to me. Yes it can be awkward because our commander puts on auras at the beginning of combat, so you need a creature to hang around for a turn with a role on it, but if you do - the coronet gets you like 10 point life swing per turn? Seems like the kind of all star that helps your grind out casual games
Plus even without the commander this is an aura deck so not that hard to have an enchanted thing. Cutting timber palladin also really confused me, commander enables the first aura then slap 2 more and you have a game ending threat
Thought I might suggest something: when comparing the reprint value to other sets, it would be cool if the highest PreCon reprint value from that set was mentioned rather than just the average value. Kinda hard to compare when there’s so much variance in reprint value on a set by set basis.
What I would add is that late-ish game, Knickknack Ouphe and Hydra's Growth can be a beastly combo.
High reprint value. I just bought mine today for $27 cause it went down so much. Well worth it to me.
Gylwain? More like LIL' WAYNE! YEEEEEAAAAAHHH! OH KAY!
YEAH! and OK! were Lil Jon, not Lil Wayne.
24:54 that’s a big ouphe.
Why put in Sram opposed to Sythis Harvest Hand? Draw a card for any enchantment instead of just for auras and also gain 1 life every time.
He just fit the budget better honestly! It's not much of a difference but at least at the time I made the list we were pretty close to exactly $50 and I didn't want to go over.
I'd main Gylwain and pull some of the weakest aura's to replace with creatures or enchantment payoffs, seems quite good.
4:25 so what you are saying is, you can't turn one of your creatures into "the beast" from beauty and the beast, because he was both a monster and a royal one at that so he had the monster role and the royal role on him
I would take out about 3 lands here. for those 3 lands I would add Ardenn, Intrepid Archaeologist, so you can move your auras around, you can move the roles on your commander that she makes. I would also add "Sythis, Harvest's Hand" because she's another draw engine and you can never have too many. and my lastt one would be "Teleportation circle".
So: 3 lands out and put in "Ardenn, Intrepid Archaeologist", "Sythis, Harvest's Hand" & "Teleportation circle".
If you are not putting "Shielded by faith" into the deck, I would take out Siona, captain of the pleas. I guess it makes lots of tokens here, but does it do enough? I'm cutting that one instead of the Timber paladin, which I think does work with the upgrades I'm making. same with Daybreak coronet, I cut the realm-cloaked Giant instead.
So I ended with 35 lands but the average cmc is 1.88 so I think that is ok.
I am planning on building more Baldurs gate decks. I have Raggadragga, but I wanna do Lae'zel + Master Chef (+1/+1 theme) and Abdel Adrian + Agent of the Iron throne (blink theme) and "Baeloth Barrityl, Entertainer + Raised by Giants, which is a goad deck and maybe Wilson, Refined Grizzly + Raised by Giants which is a voltron deck. I have played Baldursgate 3 a little bit and I am enjoying it so far, but my problem with it is the same problem i had with Divinity Original Sin 2, I keep restarting the game because I think of something different I want to try instead of finishing the game first lol.
Huge flavor fail I know
Technically, he would have had a Royal role token on him, been cursed and replaced it with a Monster Role token and then through Belle, replaced the Monster Role token with a Royal role token, so it works fine within MTG.
Great thing about the upgrade guide is with the bonus sheet grasp of fate went from $4 to $0.50 so you can have an extra $3.50 for bonus upgrades
There should be a "Pré-Con" tournament play ! lasts half a year to the big WORLD final ! 🤘🦁🤘
Can’t believe danitha new benalia’s light wasn’t mentioned in the cards to add!!!
Ox Drover wants to fight Changelings. Which I don't think will ever happen...but it's interesting. Going to go look for a way to give my opponents Changeling for a turn.
Didn't see anyone mentioning the sad reality that most of the outtakes are new cards. Just bad new ones this time around that don't make any cut against the great history of enchantment decks. Sad to buy a reprint deck to take all the new cards out.
20:25 WotC: "Hall of Heliod's Generosity seems like a good land inclusion in an enchantment deck. Let's pat our backs on that one."
MtG community: *cough* "Sliver Hive?" *cough*
And it wasn’t in the enchantment deck for commander masters! Still salty
I ordered this deck because I wanted something fresh to play but was very “meh” about it. After going through the deck tho I am excited to try it out
I feel like the roles are the new Rhystic study (“do you want to pay the one?”) with You: “…and it comes in with an [insert chosen role] token”… Opponents: “…what does that one do again?”
The Jedis are gonna feel this Ouphe!
I have Kaima, the Fractured Calm deck. Here is some tech: Tranquil Domain.
I've never considering blinking Ellivere, that's smart in theory. However, that would remove any auras on her, based on what I've read. Given how she's essentially the backbone of the deck to make creatures stompy, I'd much rather have the protection, and proc her ability through combat.
That's the point, you put auras on other creatures ellivere is not your beater she's the one placing an aura on others that give +1/+1 for EACH enchantment.
45:01 I think these Oxen are plants for Thunder Junction. Cowboys need cows to wrangle right
getting kind of sick of my Sythis deck and sitting on my hands, so i'm looking to Ellivere for inspiration
BALDURS GATE IS SO GOOD
I'm buyingg this precon to upgrade my Uril deck
If WoTC’s Amazon storefront is any indication of actual LGS price, the decks are being sold at $50. Amazon usually has discounts, but that’s the marketed price
My wife is hooked on the look of this deck. Is it a good deck for a beginner to get into mtg?
I'm excited for this deck, it's the one I want (until doctor who gets here 😂)
Cards to ad - 3 cards are the price of the entire deck during that time.
Now just calix is the price of this deck.
I need the second precon upgrade 😅
Noone at Mt LGS wants this they are selling for only $27. In fact they wouldn't even open a new box to get the fairy deck, but I convinces then to since I bought both
Surprised that Season of Growth wasn't in the upgrade or the precon
Im saddened by the lack of rabid wombat, spirit link and armadillo cloak.
Gonna fold this into a Mazzy deck for tramply aura fun.
I would love to have y’all look at what I did to this precon and have y’all tell me what you think!
They stated her draw effect is active from the commander zone. Is that accurate?
I’m torn. Xenk? Yay or nay?
Is there a place where I could scan the cards I have and it would tell me which ones would work well together in a commander deck? I’m getting back into magic after more that a decade without playing and I’m not sure if the old cards I have are any good for a deck. Back in the day I didn’t play commander (I’m not even sure it was a thing back then) but now I want to get into it. Thanks!
The precon should have been named "Role Playing."
I'm a little surprised you didn't include Composer of Spring
It was on my list but I couldn't include everything!
@@JordanPridgen That's fair!
Another question: for a commander beginner, is this deck better than the Fae Dominion precon? I mean right out of the box, before the upgrades.
Go with whichever one your gut feels attached to. As someone that bought more than 10 precons over the last two years, every deck is “good enough” and you will find yourself reaching for the deck you just like more. I personally like leaning into the flavour of the deck or theme. I tend to like tribal decks (for example faeries). Both of these decks are great decks out of the box, and if you really like them and like playing them, you might enjoy spending a bit of money upgrading them over time. Have fun and welcome!
Um. I'm kind of new. This deck seems a bit "read-ie." I know it's simple to most but I try to avoid the ones where you have to read and then reread again and kind over strat. I'm it sure about the other deck. The 40k decks seemed to have easier barrier of entry.
I think they are both a ton of fun, but the Fae Dominion precon is going to be more straight-forward to learn and will reward you the most for getting better at playing. This precon is very focused around the Role mechanic which isn't necessarily important for a new player to learn.
Ox drover gets taken out and then goes straight into....pheldagriff
What about season of the growth it's a perfect fit
I would’ve named the deck Enchanted Ensemble 🤷🏾♂️
Fae Dominion tomorrow? :O
This precon is so strong...
I love this dude with the beard hes so chill low key rachel is kinda an awesome host too feel like she a real person and understands this job is kinda goofy but rocks it anyway but also love to josh and jimmy even though josh wins likely every game knights with the same damn cards i feel like hes very smart like maybe genius level IQ low key and well spoken and low key prof fell off this channel better now his reviews are so inconsistent like wtf your videos are so much better for seeing if i should get a product even tho its basically just a podcast so its kinda cheating
Play a card draw a card play a card draw a card....
Pass
Basically me when playing Tuvasa as my commander
39 Lands!!!!!! Holy cow! I run 32-36 depending on the commander.
I think Gylwain is stronger than Ellivore, am I the only one?
PS. Great video as always
They are both good commanders but IMO Gylwain is the more powerful of the two.
I think there's a chance he's stronger depending on how you build the deck, I just think that out of the box he needs more changes to be viable. I'd love to see a deck built around him though
I like the upgrades but card kingdom is more expensive than tcgplayer.. by A TON! I understand they're a sponsor but it's a "budget" upgrade..
never been this early
Gylwain is a lot more busted, but he needs a dedicated deck to work. Gyl + Composer = GG.
38:27 i put in stuffy doll instead
no mention of Timber Paladin in the best cards. so sad
Can you have more then one of the same role ?
Nope, only one role on a creature
If both of those roles are controlled by different players then yes?
Yes, you can have more than one of the same role, as long as they are on different creatures.
Sorry but I will never be cutting liberated livestock
Not a fan of the only card in the game that creates Virtuous Role aura tokens being locked into green white
Those are traditionally the “good guys” colors in MTG, with blue being neutral and Rakdos being the “bad guys”. Nothing new (Phyrexia shook it up a bit and spread the evil around).
I don't like the cut of Timber Paladin.
That's fair. You could always cut another land or find a different cut somewhere. I haven't played with the card, so maybe it'll be better than we expect. It just seems like it'll take a lot to get the payoff
Casting director should have an enchantment called "casting couch"
Is Rachel okay? She sounds so tired...
Hi
does jimmy and josh ever host their own show anymore :/
First off, anyone who plays song of the dryads should be banned from commander for life. Second, I really wish they'd go back to the 20$ budget upgrades. With the cost of the precons already getting more and more expensive, adding even more cost on top of that just hurts.
Not play “Song of the Dryads”, Why?
@@BigxRedxDogSong of the Dryads is a notorious "no more commander for you" card, since it doesn't move the commander to another zone (so you can't send your commander back to the command zone) and lands are extremely hard to get rid of to force your commander back to the zone.