Kratos did sound genuinely choked up when confronting his younger self. You could see that forgiving himself and coming to terms with what he's done was truly difficult but made for an awe-inspiring scene. This was artfully crafted
This whole DLC just feels like a rewrite of the OG Kratos🤷♂️ Woulda been better if he and his younger self actually had a argument about whose way was better or sum
I love this DLC because you can see exactly why Tyr was so loved by everyone. He's extremely powerful, a masterful warrior ... But he's also wise and good. He likes people and wants to learn from them and aid them as best he can. He's a true leader of men, that makes him an inspiring God of War.
Kratos writes of how he’s heard good things about the egyptian pantheon, and here comes Tyr with twin Khopeshes. I want to see how that went down; it can’t be a simple gift to a visitor, Tyr probably lent a helping hand. Maybe against Set’s wacky antics?
When he sat on that throne, the lighting literally shading him as if his ashes are gone, that pale skin and as if Kratos is smiling finally at peace with his past becoming The God of Hope at last.Santa Monica really won my heart❤
@@enriquetouron2805 We'll still have plenty of God of War. Santa Monica is definitely setting it up for Kratos to just take a back seat for a bit. Might just be shifting focus onto Atreus next time
@@vegterble That wouldn't happen unless he is really disrecpectful. Anyone is polite in presence of a king so it's also expected in presence of your gods who are infinitly more vital to the cosmos than a any kings.
That's not being polite, that's called being pressured Do you want to know what happens if you're not respectful to a king? You'll be imprisoned, tortured, maimed, or killed, possibly all of the above And to a god? If you ever meet one, feel free to test that and get back to me With Kratos, it probably wasn't fear *or* politeness, it was just the way gods were treated culturally
"Your actions were based on what you were given at the time to understand them, not on what was to come" I legit had to pause the video and shed a tear at just how impactful that statement was for my life. GOW is legendary
Odin's Tyr was a traumatized coward. The real Týr sees violence, fighting, and war as tools to be used, but used properly, under the right circumstances, for the right reasons. Both will refuse a frivolous, pointless fight. But they will do so for very different reasons.
Týr is *terrifyingly* powerful, especially when you consider that he's very likely holding back since killing Kratos isn't his goal. I see why Odin was scared of him. Imagine if he really was able to join Atreus at Ragnarok.
I can just imagine Tyr hopping around from pantheon to pantheon like a kid in a candy store, giggling, just seeing the other gods wield their weapons and going: " Whoa, that looks cool, can I try?" and just mastering them and getting one as a souvenir to bring back home.
"But why should who you used to be matter more than who you are now. You've come so far" What genuinely nice words, and it also shows how far their relationship has come. It went from mutual respect to friendship to true brotherhood. Kratos shows such vulnerability when he talks to mimir
I think the biggest shock is Kratos actually understanding the Norse Language. Also, a game centered around Kratos and Mimir on a bro trip is all I wanted in 2023 :D
@@Yeaahboi23and the blade is ridiculously OP. I absolutely annihilated Thor with it lol. Can’t wait to destroy Heimdall with it. I think the OG Kratos model fighting Heimdall will look amazing when he starts losing control of his rage at the end
hey wait, what? you’re saying you can do the base game as young kratos and the sword? and you mean the sword as the rage, right? but anyway how does that work? like where do you select ‘young kratos’
“Goodness is not a destination we arrive, but a practice.” Tyr and Paarthunax would definitely be friends. I wish I could hear them have a conversation.
Tyr reminds me of what Tiber Septim and Talos embody. Tiber Septim fought to unite all of Tamriel. Ironically, Tyr united the Nine Realms. Tiber Septim united all of Tamriel (9 countries with very different climates including the Summerset Isles)
Both Tiber Septim and Paarthurnax met. He taught Tiber Septim the way of the voice. I once killed Paarthurnax. I thought I was vigilant in doing so, but this comment made me realize I was wrong. The Way of the Voice is the way of wisdom. We must be better. This is the way of the Voice
Seeing kratos as a god of hope and redemption is honestly rewarding as a GOW vet who's been playing since PS2 days. Genuinely a deserved respite he's earned himself. Watching kratos grow and evolve is something I never expected to happen. Also seeing tyr using definitely weapons from other cultures was amazing
Tyr uses weapons from other places in the world The obsidian blade from mesoamerican cultures katana from asian cultures. Spear and shield from European cultures Kopesh from Egyptian cultures Tyr is literally showing us the potential direction of a new God of war! Love it.
I'm guessing the other pantheons are going to wage war against the Norse realms cause they will feat kratos becoming a God a war again not knowing the progress he has made causing him to actually be a general leading the forces agaisnt an onslaught of other mythologies
@Alfredo_562 doubt it. The creators already expressed they were looking into putting Kratos in another place before putting him in the norse mythology. It's probably just an omage to that.
How gracious they gave Helios a full set of dialogue on his return. It was like listening to another Wilhelm. But overall, it's about time Kratos made peace with his past self. Officially. Finally.
This therapy session was long, LONG overdue for him. He's come so far from where he began, and it is wonderful to see him acknowledge and coming to terms with it truly. I hope he continues to do so because, to relate to what was said earlier, it is not a destination, but a practice! Also, pretty dope to see Tyr with a katana among the weapons from the other lands! Loved the dual khopesh and macuahuitl!
It also sets up the idea that in the GOW Multiverse that Kratos is the God of Hope and that it may be his role in spreading it to where it was needed. His first outting.... didnt go well. But thats normal. His second time in that role was MUCH cleaner and precise in action. And we know Kratos will visit another land, and that he will likely confront a likely corrupted Patheon only to set things right. After all one hopes that conflict can bring about a better tomorrow if it comes to bear.
@@thomasallen9974 There was no "first outing" as Zeus would have ensured Kratos remained a loyal lapdog of him no matter what he tried to do in his possition as the new God of War. THIS is Kratos's first outing so now we'll see how he pulls through now that he's finally become able to accept his past.
@@thomasallen9974 I do like that idea of Kratos visiting or coming into contact with other pantheons in his new role if the need arises. It certainly keeps the series going in interesting directions! I thought any exploration of other places would fall more in Artreus' adventures, but I do like the possibility of him and his father crossing paths in their own journeys too! Gods what an emotional moment that would be, for them to see each other and how far they've come!
This game has been more than just that… it’s profound. I think of this story daily and I strive to “be better”.. no matter how hard the choices are or how hard the struggle.. you can be better. Make the right choices, not just the easy ones. This we can all do. We must be better.
@@ibe4205after living a lifetime of trauma, abuse, with few friends or support even to this day I still try to be better. I have tried to end my life 7 times but for some reason I'm still here, regardless of my mistakes, misgivings, sins and hardships I told myself just a couple of weeks ago that I want to live, I want to see the light of day and be happy, I want to be a better person, I want to build myself a future on the foundation of what I want and what I CAN change. I have also had many friends and family take their life and I wish I had the power to reverse time just to appreciate them, regardless of how cruel or broken they were, we all are fighting our own demons and I'm coming to terms with my misgivings and sins, I'm happier now. We all must be better, not just for ourselves but for our loved ones.
50:00 I appreciate that they acknowledge two things here: A) As bad as the Greek pantheon was, they were made way worse by the evils that infected them B) Even if Kratos knew the consequences, he wouldn't have cared and would have still opened the box. Athena knew that, which is why she used him to open it.
Because that was what he was, an absolute menace and I loved every second of it. I feel like they are shitting too much on OG Kratos. He was such a fucking badass and never supposed to be a hero. He was an anti-hero. The new games destroyed his entire villain arc…
@@nunufjabisnjas8068kratos was selfish and cruel in a lot of ways before, despite seeking forgiveness. The unnecessary acts like killing the boat captain after defeating the hydra, by letting him fall inside it, it's maybe the best example of it. Dude spent an eternity of suffering as a spectre and during all of his time dead never stopped hating Kratos, and he was right. Kratos killed him without even a motive when he was just a defenseless guy. Even Kratos himself recognised the cruelty of that. Don't forget that he killed a lot of innocent people during his adventures, he knew the consequences of killing the Greek Gods, like Helios. I'm not saying about he didn't suffer, cause the gods manipulated and ruined him during almost all his life. But there's no justification for his crimes against innocents.
@@Madheim777I don’t care about justification for killing people in a video game. Do people cry every time Venom from Spider-man rips someone’s head off? No, because he’s an anti-hero. It’s who they are. Now how weird would it be if Venom was suddenly a good guy who cares about people’s feelings? I grew up with Kratos and seeing him be emasculated like this is infuriating. And people are cheering it on 🤦♂️
You know what's interesting about Tyrs fight is that his weapons are from the four common worlds that were introduced in this game, Norse, Greek, Aztec, and Egyptian. That's pretty neat fight
It's been a long journey but Kratos did it. Absolutely heart wrenching, stunning ending and wonderful writing. Some of the best character development in any art form and surely only possible in a video game. Inspiring stuff and full of hope - we all can and must be better.
This was very nice and a good wrap up for recent events regarding Kratos’s journey. Helios as a head swapping places with mimir was funny af. Have to say, Tyr was bringing the heat in those fights, with all the weapons he’s learned, possibly mastered through his travels throughout realms and learning from other pantheons. He truly embodies the Norse God of War mantle that Kratos showed great respect for, which I have to say, is awesome af writing. Tyr and Kratos sparring and gleaming in what they’ve learned exerting themselves in combat is literally god tier therapy on some level we all wish we got 😂
This honestly makes me believe that if Santa Monica did a remake of the original game with the new engine and combat systems, in theory it could actually work!
They'd probably just try and make it too realistic, when it comes to graphics and design and aesthetics of course, they probably wouldn't change too much of the story but nowadays it's like every game need to be 100% photorealistic and everything, of course I hooe that if they do it they don't me wrong but I dont think it'll happen
@@cianboyne378 that's what I'm thinking. It's like they purposely did it to make people think "omg what if they remade the trilogy???". They know what they're doing haha.
It’s not the end of kratos, the sigma king shall rise again, all hail the god of war, and all hail the 5000+ games coming out because kratos is a money farm for developers because he’s so cool 🗿
i wanted to fight this younger kratos i was totally expecting us to come blows to blows leviathan axe vs blades of chaos hopefully in a faye dlc or faye section in a new game
This dlc is SO important to the full story of kratos, making it free is a major gift that not only was not neccessary but also totally unexpected. Giving this dlc for free is a very classy act and has won my loyalty as a customer. Any game this team makes will be in my library on principle even if i dont play it. Devs who treat their customers well deserve to be supported and I hope others continue to support them as well.
Yep. Also it's a gift by sta Monica. So basically they won our patience when they're going to make possibly more gow. Since kratos son is on a journey and papa here just got his PTSD check. So it's good to see or very interesting what's the next saga? Roman? Carthaginian? East? Egyptian? Since kratos basically torn that Nile monster open maybe more? Aztec or indian stories perhaps?
@@ericscorch6272 very much so Spartans were not only for combat but stoic philosophers as well it goes along with their military training of learning discipline
@@pale_lad1252 Oh yeah, they're not seriously fighting to harm one another, but I think Tyr especially is a lot more powerful than what he showed off here.
@@SnagTheRabbitwell so is kratos lol I think he can solo tyr with ease if he fueled himself with rage like his younger self but he's a better person now so will probably self nerf himself
11:37 the brotherly talk kratos had with mimir with mimir trying to convince him and let him know he is not the man he was. Hits so hard man. This is some conversation every friends/brothers should have without shame if they see their brother going downhill.
@@marcusclark1339you're right. Kratos was trash, never liked him in the earlier games. Just an angry, violent man, full of rage and testosterone... But I gotta say, this version is more thought out and well written. Some quote I read that I can't recall where from and totally paraphrasing "What's a more captivating story? A hero who was born good and remained good till the end, or a story of a villain who overcomes their nature to become good?"
@@VexatedcanicusYou might possibly be thinking of a quote that Paarthurnax a dragon who plays a big roll in the Elder scrolls five skyrim says it goes as follows “What is better ? to be born good or to overcome your evil nature through great effort ?”
Valhalla and Tyr really are just like, really targeted therapy for a PTSD riddled vet who's seriously seen some shit.... and the whole journey really is beautiful.
Man every time you see him in any game ever proves that minor is the definition of a W homie. He’s got advice, got your back, and he makes sure you know how far you’ve come. The goat of the past two games tbh
It's hard to look at yourself and come to terms with the fuck ups you made in life. But if Kratos, a guy who murked an entire pantheon, can... then how hard is it for us to better ourselves every day? A lesson we should really take to heart is the same as his. Tomorrow's always there for us to not be sorry about our past, but be better for the future.
I feel like the ending of this is Corey telling everyone, "He was always more than just a hack-n-slash character and murdered people!" And he's right. His story has always been wrought with tragedy since the first game - and ever since. SO MUCH SO that I expected him to die in this one as the only way to truly give him peace. Then they tricked me and redeemed him.
There's still so much more we don't know about Kratos for him to die just yet like why was he prophesized to bring the end of the greek pantheon and what has Athena been doing since the end of GoW3 so i already knew he wasn't going to die on this DLC given all the plotthreads which have yet been resolved.
"That your legacy has always been a complicated one, that goodness is not a destination we arive at but a practice. Misfortune may drive anyone to darkness, we resist it only through wisdom and vigilance. You are not so unskillful now as you were then, better voices in your head you might call it." Wow beautifully written 💯💜
I love the vulnerability and more laid back nature of this kratos, I remember playing god of war on my PSP and asking why was he so angry (ofc being cheated by a god and killing your family does that) but this Kratos is far more impressionable and relatable, we’ve all done things in the past that we never want to uncover but fail to move on from
He's a Kratos that's capable of introspection and is given time and opportunity to stop and think about things. Original trilogy Kratos was too busy being strung along on wild goose-hunts by the gods and tormented by cursed nightmares and monsters, even when he achieved apotheosis he couldn't stand to be around the sneering olympians and isolated himself.
whole thing was bad - so much is revisionism of what GoW is and was for this "movie game" design and narrative spin to fit their narrative on "being better" which is a terrible phrase and condescending at that dlc was bad too
@@marcusclark1339 I respect that opinion and get where you’re coming from. My theory on that is because of the rapid growth in gaming and the “hack and slash” genre wouldn’t be as popular as it was when GoW was first developed. When you think of main characters now a days, they have to be dynamic enough for the players to grow with that character and I think having Kratos as a blood thirsty and raging vengeful character like back in the day wouldn’t have gotten the turnout from fans like the Kratos now.
@@marcusclark1339 I think the DLC also isn’t that great except for adding more to the game, lore and past of Kratos and it gears up for a step in the direction for new content and filling in the plot holes
@@LyricLabs_ "DLC isn't great, except adding more to the game, lore and it gears up in the step of new content and filling plot holes"... So... Everything a dlc should be? You forgot "free"btw
I like how we also see Tyr slowly get back into fighting shape throughout the DLC. Their collaboration helps Kratos to free himself, and helps Tyr to re-hone himself.
Dude i wanna see tyr goin to Egypt, Japan AND Ancient Aztec lands to get his Nodachi, Kopesh, and OBSIDIAN EDGED CLAYMORE that can strike up MAGMA. his weapons along with the first 'dad of war" are HUGE pathways showing us where the series is heading next, and I'm excited! Japanese game for a second IMAGINE KRATOS WRESTLING THE NAMAZU! that HUGE quake causing catfish! or even going toe to toe with Anubis!
I won't lie, following Krato's acceptance is a little eye opening. Often we focus on the fighting and carnage, but we forget that Kratos is still part human. He makes mistakes, but he has human intentions. Plus I find his journey relatable, even if we never are responsible for mass destruction, the act of acceptance and broadening ourselves beyond our past mistakes and the act of hope for a better future is a strong message never the less.
@@marcusclark1339if you didn't like than there's something terrible wrong with you bcs everyone grows up so do your favorite games. That's really a well made closure
@@marcusclark1339 There's nothing revisionist about it. The first game literally opens with Kratos attempting suicide, his arc has always been about failure and triumph as well as learning to overcome negative emotions. If you somehow missed that then idk you must be mentally challenged.
If this DLC did anything, it definitively drives home the point that Kratos is one of the most deeply developed, and well crafted characters ever put into a video game. I remember picking up the original God of War for my PS2. His character arc has been, for me, the most satisfying narrative ever made.
Im so glad that they had Crispin reprise his role as Helios, definitely think he did a better job than Dwight did in Chains of Olympus, so im glad to see him back, even if it was brief.
Damn, seeing the younger Kratos in 4K is really fascinating and scary at the same time, especially at this moment 1:02:27, feels like he is about to stand up and destroy everything
Atreus would've been proud of him, also, Each of Tyr's Weapons are from Different Countries, the Spear are likely from Greece, the large Club are called Macualhuitl, a weapon from ancient Aztec, The twin Swords are definitely from Egypt, and the Obviously, the Katana are from Japan.
For real he'd be shocked at first, like "You fought TYR, Father? The Real TYR???? H-how did it go? Did you win?" That is if he's not shocked that Kratos had found the real Tyr before, lol.
There were so many amazing things done in this storyline, the entire Norse Saga of God of War has been amazing and this, this is a truly superb ending for Kratos. This very well may be the last canon addition to God of War we ever get and it feels so *complete* and *heavy*. We rarely see works of fiction where it's fully grown adults finding themselves and becoming whole, rarely see stories where it's more than just 'I must overcome my limits' or 'I must learn to accept my friends' help', but we got one in God of War 4 and 5 and now this DLC. Whoever wrote these games' scripts deserve so much praise and thanks.
IF TC Carson would've voiced young Kratos AND if the young Kratos would've fought the older Kratos....if there was a category for BEST DLC, that would've won it. The older GOW games, great story, great voice acting, great combat, storyline...it was everything.
"You have always been more than what others saw" Don't think there's a better way to describe the first saga, or the entirety of God of War really. God of War has always had this stigma of 'angry hack and slash with little depth", to the point where people today still believe younger Kratos is better, and even stronger, than his current self and that before 2018 the games were extremely shallow. It's a good way to both self-reflect and really encapsulate what this series has been like. I don't know if we'll get a continuation of this story, more than likely if we do it'll be as Atreus, as Loki, God of Mischief. But whatever we get i'll always have been glad to have gone through Kratos' entire journey, it's really a masterpiece in the gaming world
@@Snxggy1 From my experience its Kratos as a character, and moreso the story of the original games. Dunno why, suppose people just turned their brains off and just enjoyed the violence
Because younger Kratos IS stronger and better 😂 He was an anti-hero. It’s what I liked about his character. Him becoming a hero is such a big change. The new games make everything far too sentimental. It used to be about Gore, tits and pure Testosterone. Now God of War is about “feelings”
@@nunufjabisnjas8068 He isn't stronger. Also Kratos is any person who ages and slowly gains wisdom and understanding, it's not about feelings, it's about growing up and learning to be better for us and the people close to us, be it our friends, children or other significant others.
I like that after all the time we spent in game. Kratos’ language proficiency has increased significantly. Small details that show he has learned a lot over the course of his journey in this world.
Santa Monica once again proving why they truly encapsulate gaming industry. Kratos finally laying his past to rest in a beautiful way, resting on his throne with only Mimir, his trusted companion, in his presence. Love it.
Man, GoW has come such a long way since I was a kid. When I was 16 playing this, it was just 2--D violence going fight to fight being angry, and testosterone. Then when they revamped it in 2018, I never thought I would take lessons on how to be a better father from Kratos. The lessons I learned were patience and empathy towards someone who was once in their shoes, a kid. And now I am learning other philosophical things, that really hit home and is ridiculous. It's just ironic and impactful what a character Kratos has become. It's real growth and relatable, hints why it's such a great and beautiful story of masculinity and personal growth. I hope we can see more stories like this in the future, but I appreciate what a gem it is now.
weapons Tyr used : Spear and shield are his own(correction in replies) Macuahuitl, used by the Aztec and other ancient natives of the American continents. Kopesh(2), developed in the Egyptian region and used through the middle east. I'd like to say his last weapon is a Nodachi, which is likely since Tyr is so large a normal katana would be a knife to him.
Yeah and tying mimir in a relationship with sigrun is such a great idea. Gave him incentive to free them more in the first, and now it gives sigrun a more emotional incentive to help him and kratos back this game
I'm more surprised he didn't become young again once his realizations came full circle. It would have been perfect to give him another chance at his youth. Granted he probably doesn't need it as he is already a changed man. But it also would've meant his adventures wouldn't end anytime soon.
@@Moloch_the_MAP Unless you mod it on PC yes you practically need a permit. 2023 devs are not like 2004 devs who let you play as the main villain. The great OP Game Dev move.
I remember using Helios' shield in Chains of Olympus. Kratos with a shield was always a good look to me. Chains of Olympus was the only game I could play, but I followed the story as it went. Helping Helios through that game's quest was just another day of plagues and disaster for Greece, that Kratos had to fix. I think he had to travel to Hades with the sun chariot to rescue Helios, which at some point, had him roped into killing Persephone after realized that taking his second chance at staying with his daughter Calliope in Elysium would allow Atlas and Persephone to destroy the world. Persephone being depicted as hating her time in Hades is weird tho. Classic GoW depicts some gods incorrectly. Seeing how Helios ends getting caught in GoW 3, he has every reason to be spiteful about being dead, but to put their relationship in a lens, after Chains of Olympus, Kratos never gets his end of the bargain he constantly asks from Athena. And sure, Helios does send his chariot to carry Kratos out of Elysium, but he doesn't offer anything for his journey afterwards. Kratos's service stayed thankless and unrewarded. No need for Pandora's Box there, they kept him on a leash anyway. For the sake of narrative progression, the pantheon had it coming, but it's really sweet to explore deeper and personal subtext of Kratos' journey.
A neat detail here: The ending where Kratos sits on the throne, notice the lighting and how it affects his skin. It's as if the ashes are gone. It's as if his curse has been lifted. It's as if he's finally reached what he's been searching for, solitude from what he's been fighting. This is no longer the Ghost of Sparta...this is a God of Hope.
I love that even the throne changes from Ares’ to a new one. The Norns really were right. Kratos of Sparda really did die so Kratos of Valhalla may live
In the end after Kratos finally comes to terms and makes peace with his past self you can see when he sits on the throne he lowers his guard and he has a smile like expression on his face showing he finally succeeded on changing fully embracing that he can change and not make the same mistakes as he did in the past. This just shows how much Kratos has developed through out the games this is top tier character development. And I actually wouldn't mind if they make Kratos not the main protagonist in the next God of War game, like we can just see him as a side character or just flashbacks of him. This DLC pretty much is already a good ending to close the Kratos chapter and start anew.
The self reflection his words brought to me to look back on myself and all I have done and chose to do even when I knew better, was more than I expected to realize from this gameplay. We can all be better, especially those of us who know better. We fight so much with ourselves and the life we live is because we know, that deep down, we are not being who we can be and doing what could be doing. Even when we’ve felt like we’ve given our all, ask yourself, “have I?”
I must admit, I'm surprised. I hadn't expected them to actually show us Valhalla. I recall that Mimir said Hel tortures its inhabitants with their own pasts. I suspect Valhalla has the opposite effect: By driving us to accept ourselves and our faults, it allows us to grow stronger and... be better.
Maybe I'm odd, but I don't see it as Valhalla and Hel doing opposite things. I think they do the same thing, but it's the PEOPLE involved in it that are different. Those in Valhalla want to change, be more than what they once were. Those in Hel... don't. Maybe they can't, maybe they refuse to. At least, in this universe.
fun fact: this is what my dad and his best friend used to do: when one of the two was severely down in the dumps, they'd go to their friend's boxing gym (neither of them seriously boxed), they'd punch each other for a while and then come to an hunderstanding on what to do. Sometimes, percussive maintenance does not work just on machinery, it also works on humans...and just like with machinery, the effectiveness of percussive maintenance lays in not going overboard for it
This is what us guys could use more of. Irony being that nowadays fighting is frowned upon in society yet where I come from if you get in a scrap with someone and you're both holding your own, if a wise ass gets the balls to be a snitch here and calls the cops, the cops will ACTUALLY let you 2 fight it out, provided 2 things: #1 no weapons. And #2 nobody's being maimed or intentionally hurt. You'll do about 2 months in the klink but odds are you'll get out in 3 days.
@Metroid_Hunter don't assume shit bud, you only make an ass out of u and me. As for tyr I don't much care for lore. As for me, I don't strike first if that's what your meager implications are being directed at.
Tyr being a god of war that incorporates weapons from his different travels through mythologies is perfect. Nice detail i see they kept from the last GOW about how tyr kept his various hordes of weapons and treasures in his vaults.
I love how even though he has accepted the throne he has also had to accept HE CHOSE to make the deal with Ares & become God of war he can't forgive his past but he can live with it
Wow. Never seen a DLC that made me want to become a better man. An absolute masterclass in writing. It felt like a perfect introspection for Kratos and even let me think and apply this to my life- which is what a great story should do. Absolutely fantastic
The lighting at the end making his skin look like it doesn’t have the ash on it is so good. Like ugh… I HAVE NO WORDS FOR HOW IT MAKES ME FEEL!!!!! SO GOOD!!!!
@@Kratos_Messi7050 Mimir is probably going to stay with Sigrun as i can't imagine him wanting to travel to who knows what dangerous realms as a talking head only for him to barely provide much wisdom in places which he doesn't personally know. That said i would love it if he did tagged along with Kratos in future adventures.
@@javiervasquez625but mimir is smartest because he makes it his business to learn what he doesn't already know. I think he'd definitely risk death if that meant more knowledge or if he could help kratos in any way with his council. That being said, him ending up with sigrun is pretty cool too
When those ashes faded and he sat on the throne it gave me goosebumps . Been playing since ps2 days and after playing this dlc it was a great way to close out a saga
He truly became, "Better" and I think that those of us who have been with him since the beginning see as well as feel that he has. He earned his throne and should be proud to sit upon it.
@@blaze9552that dude have been talking sh*t about the story, saying that young kratos is better than the current kratos when in fact it's not, the guy clearly don't understand how story telling works.
Was really hoping for a Zues or young Kratos fight, I think it would've topped it off. We probably won't ever get that now that this chapter for him is over.
Young Kratos fight would have been on point, as that's functionally what Kratos has been doing all this time. But I don't think Zeus would fit. Notice all the people he's killed who have returned are the ones he regrets? Magni and Modi were basically pawns of Odin, and the sons of parents who honestly loved them (If being flawed themselves). Helios was a god he slaughtered who did not deserve his fate. But Zeus? Zeus *absolutely* had it coming. I think the only regret Kratos had about killing Zeus was that there was so much collateral damage getting there. Zeus was as bad as Odin, if not worse.
@@javiervasquez625not really, it is still canon considering Zeus at the end, didn't put up a fight anymore and just let kratos beat his ass after kratos purged him off the fear but even if he pleads, it wouldn't still matter as everything is too far gone and it was still his fault.
Kratos' younger self was so imparted to the players that when he moved at 1:02:27 I was expeting that he will stand up and was about to do shit 😂 and the fact that young Kratos is still so intimidating even when seated proves that he really left a mark on who he really was in the past.
a cool part I like about the ending cutscene is that when he sits down he's lit up in a glow that makes his skin look a little more natural instead of it's usual ashen white. Showing he's moved on from the sins of his past by temporarily cleansing him of the one that catalyzed the entire series.
This story is so good that you could recommend this to anyone that argues mental illnesses aren't that serious and they'll change their mind instantly. Kratos went through the whole cycle and getting to witness that is an emotional roller coaster for sure.
Another game that does similarly is Omori. It disguises the mental illness recovery behind it’s art style, but after playing through the prologue you get wrapped up in the journey of the protagonist. I highly recommend playing it (or watching it if you can’t)
Man this still doesn't even begin to cover all the destruction and death Kratos caused.He was already a general with a big enough body-count even before the god thing. But then killing Poseidon flooded the seas, thousands if not millions drowned, when he killed Hermes a horrible plague was released on the few people that had survived, he killed Hera resulting in death of all plant life in Greece...to cut a long story short, Kratos did the equivalent of dropping 2 or 3 nukes in Greece just to kill one dude. That's some Pablo Escobar shit on turbo mode
@@seplolthats the point. The OP said "The DLC we never asked". OP isnt talking about DLC in general but this specific DLC being something "we" totally deserved.
@@michaelshahoe i think youre digging too deep into op’s comment. “the dlc” can mean several things such as: referring to the only dlc we have specific type of dlc referring to the dlc that is the current topic alternate way of saying “a dlc” we cant say for sure which one op meant so lets not assume
Kratos did sound genuinely choked up when confronting his younger self. You could see that forgiving himself and coming to terms with what he's done was truly difficult but made for an awe-inspiring scene. This was artfully crafted
The fact it was kinda like Greek Dramas/Tragedies and was just continous Shakesperean monologue was peak fiction
Yeah this game needs to be a movie series
He forgave himself the first time in his mind, but here he did with his heart.
We wanted Ragnarok to be a three parter instead of two, though I don't think this was their initial plan. :3
This whole DLC just feels like a rewrite of the OG Kratos🤷♂️
Woulda been better if he and his younger self actually had a argument about whose way was better or sum
Imagine if we could fight young kratos as the final boss, and we'd be able to hear TC carson voice him one last time. That'd be so fuckin epic.😔
100% agree
Ehhhh... that would have ruined the story element of accepting yourself and your past mistakes.
nah the first thing is how did bro finish it so fast
@@Starbright-cm4ji I mean not really. They could've easily found a way to do both. I'm surprised they chose not to give young Kratos any dialogue too.
I wish they would thet you fight
So glad Kratos finally had his first therapy session in 14 years
Underrated comment
14 years in our time, god knows how long in theirs
@@aced3657at least 200
@@aced3657couple hundred years minimum I believe I read somewhere it said thousands of years are between gow 3 and 4
14 years ?? Dude between the Greek Pantheon destruction and his arrival at Norse it must've been like 1000 years.
I love this DLC because you can see exactly why Tyr was so loved by everyone. He's extremely powerful, a masterful warrior ... But he's also wise and good. He likes people and wants to learn from them and aid them as best he can.
He's a true leader of men, that makes him an inspiring God of War.
Kratos writes of how he’s heard good things about the egyptian pantheon, and here comes Tyr with twin Khopeshes. I want to see how that went down; it can’t be a simple gift to a visitor, Tyr probably lent a helping hand. Maybe against Set’s wacky antics?
Yeah, he was a god of peace ✌️
This DLC is free, 1 hour long, comes out within a week of it's anouncement, and it has the same quality as the main game. Pls take note Activision.
You expect more than you should for that company.
1 hour? That’s just the story, you can get 8 + hours on this on higher difficulty.
so addicting tbh. i love the way its set up.
Activision will never take note. But we can dream
It is way longer than that. Tyr is impossible to beat at the end if you don't spend time gaining upgrades.
That handshake between Tyr and Kratos after each fight is personal. Two warriors with an understanding
Bros of War
@@benjammin5328 no
@@dariannisch7511 It is written now. Kratos and Tỳr: Bros of War
I would've killed em cause of the damage he dealt me,Lol.........Guess I'm the young Kratos of War
I think that's ridiculous that they just loop that it's a shame for a game in 2023
When he sat on that throne, the lighting literally shading him as if his ashes are gone, that pale skin and as if Kratos is smiling finally at peace with his past becoming The God of Hope at last.Santa Monica really won my heart❤
Another detail that I noticed is that the skin of the Greek Kratos model is much more pale than of Norse Kratos.
But the sadnes behind this is that his history is done and it means that we won’t have any God of War no more 😢😢
@@enriquetouron2805 We'll still have plenty of God of War. Santa Monica is definitely setting it up for Kratos to just take a back seat for a bit. Might just be shifting focus onto Atreus next time
@@benjammin5328 can be a possibilities but the ark for Kratos is done and there’s nothing more to develop onto him
@@enriquetouron2805 Depends on what he goes through next. His redemption arc may be over, but there's still this new version of him to explore.
That moment when you realize "Hello Helios" is the most polite Kratos has ever, EVER, been with a Greek God...
In gow 1 he addressed them with Lord or lady when speaking to Zeus, Poseidon, Hades, and Aphrodite.
You never played any classic gow
@@Moloch_the_MAP Worship isn't polite, especially when the alternatives include literal torture and death
@@vegterble That wouldn't happen unless he is really disrecpectful. Anyone is polite in presence of a king so it's also expected in presence of your gods who are infinitly more vital to the cosmos than a any kings.
That's not being polite, that's called being pressured
Do you want to know what happens if you're not respectful to a king?
You'll be imprisoned, tortured, maimed, or killed, possibly all of the above
And to a god? If you ever meet one, feel free to test that and get back to me
With Kratos, it probably wasn't fear *or* politeness, it was just the way gods were treated culturally
"Your actions were based on what you were given at the time to understand them, not on what was to come"
I legit had to pause the video and shed a tear at just how impactful that statement was for my life.
GOW is legendary
You couldn't have known, it's not your fault.
Weeb
I felt like the closure I needed for myself 😢❤
@@S4NDRIBalam Industries sponsored field trip.
No, your mistakes are your own.
You're not the main character lol.
The panic in kratos' voice when mimir almost gets incinerated. They've truly become brothers
The moment I heard "Brother?", raw panic immediately shot through every vein in my body.
dudeee i cried a lil when Mimir started panicking
He knew exactly what he was doing by not editing out the fight with Týr. He gave the audience what they wanted to see. Thanks for that.
He even was on actual 50-50 with tyr. Like this version of kratos is even with tyr!! Which might actually be lore true so it felt very immersive
I mean I could’ve gone without it
Khopesh i think
@arkunusstilshire6088
@arkunusstilshire6088 Kopesh, was designed to have the cutting power of an ax and the maneuverability of a sword, or something like that.
@arkunusstilshire6088they're sickle swords
I love how Odin's Tyr was such a 'peace loving' coward while the real Tyr decides that a spanking might help you with your issues
Odin's Tyr was a traumatized coward. The real Týr sees violence, fighting, and war as tools to be used, but used properly, under the right circumstances, for the right reasons. Both will refuse a frivolous, pointless fight. But they will do so for very different reasons.
They had the character model, might as well use it properly
I spent far too fucking long laughing at this lmao
Odin's Tyr was meant to turn everyone away from the real Tyr, so yeah pretty much
Týr is *terrifyingly* powerful, especially when you consider that he's very likely holding back since killing Kratos isn't his goal. I see why Odin was scared of him. Imagine if he really was able to join Atreus at Ragnarok.
I can just imagine Tyr hopping around from pantheon to pantheon like a kid in a candy store, giggling, just seeing the other gods wield their weapons and going: " Whoa, that looks cool, can I try?" and just mastering them and getting one as a souvenir to bring back home.
Honestly with this I would like to see a tyr spin off
@@lordofmusic4207far more interesting than an atreus spinoff lol hate his character in Ragnarok
@@ssk58607 they tried to make him too much of a rebellious teen
@@lordofmusic4207 Tyr animatic would be fine too
This was better than new call of duty campaign
"But why should who you used to be matter more than who you are now. You've come so far"
What genuinely nice words, and it also shows how far their relationship has come. It went from mutual respect to friendship to true brotherhood. Kratos shows such vulnerability when he talks to mimir
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I think the biggest shock is Kratos actually understanding the Norse Language.
Also, a game centered around Kratos and Mimir on a bro trip is all I wanted in 2023 :D
Atreus did teach him
^ and before he was born?
@@howboutno412freya?
@@howboutno412 Faye, Kratos' last Wife and Atreus' Mother taught Atreus the nordic runes and language.
Kratos couldn't read runes/nordic prior to Ragnarok, it's literally why Atreus did all the reading and writing in the 2018 game@@howboutno412
For those that don't know: After completing this dlc you can start the whole game again in NG+ with the blade of Olympus and young kratos
Lmao shut up, and are you serious? 😂, that's friggin dope. If your not you got me 😂
@@JAM3LtheCAM3L it's true you can play as young kratos and with the blade of Olympus after you finish the DLC
@@Yeaahboi23and the blade is ridiculously OP. I absolutely annihilated Thor with it lol. Can’t wait to destroy Heimdall with it. I think the OG Kratos model fighting Heimdall will look amazing when he starts losing control of his rage at the end
@@zakapholiac9377 i agree lol the blade of Olympus pretty much obliterated and shredded almost all the enemy/boss in the game
hey wait, what? you’re saying you can do the base game as young kratos and the sword? and you mean the sword as the rage, right? but anyway how does that work? like where do you select ‘young kratos’
“Goodness is not a destination we arrive, but a practice.”
Tyr and Paarthunax would definitely be friends. I wish I could hear them have a conversation.
Tyr reminds me of what Tiber Septim and Talos embody. Tiber Septim fought to unite all of Tamriel. Ironically, Tyr united the Nine Realms. Tiber Septim united all of Tamriel (9 countries with very different climates including the Summerset Isles)
Both Tiber Septim and Paarthurnax met. He taught Tiber Septim the way of the voice. I once killed Paarthurnax. I thought I was vigilant in doing so, but this comment made me realize I was wrong. The Way of the Voice is the way of wisdom. We must be better. This is the way of the Voice
Imagine if kratos could visit Tamriel and meet the Nine Divines and 16 Daedric Princes. A Santa Monica game in Elder Scrolls would be insane
This is Aristotle, found in Politeía (The Republic). It's greek.
@@edgarazevedo1306man I haven’t thought of that name since high school
Seeing kratos as a god of hope and redemption is honestly rewarding as a GOW vet who's been playing since PS2 days. Genuinely a deserved respite he's earned himself. Watching kratos grow and evolve is something I never expected to happen.
Also seeing tyr using definitely weapons from other cultures was amazing
I know, right? This was so satisfying!
Nah b
@@NahBNah cry
@@NahBNahcope
Imagine if they finally lifted the ash from his body. I think it would’ve made the scene so much more powerful
Tyr uses weapons from other places in the world
The obsidian blade from mesoamerican cultures
katana from asian cultures.
Spear and shield from European cultures
Kopesh from Egyptian cultures
Tyr is literally showing us the potential direction of a new God of war! Love it.
The spear and shield is obviously from Greece/Sparta
@@declicitous1763I figured they were a nod to Celtic myth. Probably a reference to Cu Chulainn.
I'm guessing the other pantheons are going to wage war against the Norse realms cause they will feat kratos becoming a God a war again not knowing the progress he has made causing him to actually be a general leading the forces agaisnt an onslaught of other mythologies
@Alfredo_562 doubt it. The creators already expressed they were looking into putting Kratos in another place before putting him in the norse mythology. It's probably just an omage to that.
@brayancruz5856 wack I wanna see him actually be a good general and defend his new home
Bro I love you. You actually put in some story conversations and not JUST the cutscenes. Honestly I respect the hell out of it!
How gracious they gave Helios a full set of dialogue on his return. It was like listening to another Wilhelm.
But overall, it's about time Kratos made peace with his past self. Officially. Finally.
beautifully said
They could have brought the original kratos voice as well.
@@LightningFast240he cant do the voice anymore
@@66xXDeathIsNearXx66 why not?
@@LightningFast240 Cause God of War 3 came out over ten years ago and people age
This therapy session was long, LONG overdue for him. He's come so far from where he began, and it is wonderful to see him acknowledge and coming to terms with it truly. I hope he continues to do so because, to relate to what was said earlier, it is not a destination, but a practice!
Also, pretty dope to see Tyr with a katana among the weapons from the other lands! Loved the dual khopesh and macuahuitl!
It also sets up the idea that in the GOW Multiverse that Kratos is the God of Hope and that it may be his role in spreading it to where it was needed. His first outting.... didnt go well. But thats normal. His second time in that role was MUCH cleaner and precise in action. And we know Kratos will visit another land, and that he will likely confront a likely corrupted Patheon only to set things right. After all one hopes that conflict can bring about a better tomorrow if it comes to bear.
@@thomasallen9974 There was no "first outing" as Zeus would have ensured Kratos remained a loyal lapdog of him no matter what he tried to do in his possition as the new God of War. THIS is Kratos's first outing so now we'll see how he pulls through now that he's finally become able to accept his past.
@@thomasallen9974 I do like that idea of Kratos visiting or coming into contact with other pantheons in his new role if the need arises. It certainly keeps the series going in interesting directions! I thought any exploration of other places would fall more in Artreus' adventures, but I do like the possibility of him and his father crossing paths in their own journeys too! Gods what an emotional moment that would be, for them to see each other and how far they've come!
@@thomasallen9974Kratos the God of Hope and Loki the God of Stories. Two GOATED characters.
TYR IS A WEEB!!!
Man, I want so much more Tyr in the future. He’s literally like a therapist and I feel the weight of everything he says.
Not to mention he's a beast
Remember the therapy he gave Brok? Truly life changing.
@@brother_of_light
Hit him straight to the chest.
@@brother_of_lightthat was odin
@@scottiye1452that was the joke, “life changing” 💀
This game has been more than just that… it’s profound. I think of this story daily and I strive to “be better”.. no matter how hard the choices are or how hard the struggle.. you can be better. Make the right choices, not just the easy ones. This we can all do.
We must be better.
Gay
@@ibe4205after living a lifetime of trauma, abuse, with few friends or support even to this day I still try to be better. I have tried to end my life 7 times but for some reason I'm still here, regardless of my mistakes, misgivings, sins and hardships I told myself just a couple of weeks ago that I want to live, I want to see the light of day and be happy, I want to be a better person, I want to build myself a future on the foundation of what I want and what I CAN change. I have also had many friends and family take their life and I wish I had the power to reverse time just to appreciate them, regardless of how cruel or broken they were, we all are fighting our own demons and I'm coming to terms with my misgivings and sins, I'm happier now. We all must be better, not just for ourselves but for our loved ones.
@@ibe4205indeed, a happy look in life indeed.
white girl coded
@@ibe4205 You failed to be better.
What a cool ass love letter to the OG games. The playing style, the story, the character development.. all natural.
50:00 I appreciate that they acknowledge two things here:
A) As bad as the Greek pantheon was, they were made way worse by the evils that infected them
B) Even if Kratos knew the consequences, he wouldn't have cared and would have still opened the box. Athena knew that, which is why she used him to open it.
Some good lore
My god, legacy Kratos looks amazing and absolutely menacing! His eyes are so full of hate and revenge. Almost snakelike in appearance.
Because that was what he was, an absolute menace and I loved every second of it.
I feel like they are shitting too much on OG Kratos.
He was such a fucking badass and never supposed to be a hero.
He was an anti-hero. The new games destroyed his entire villain arc…
True, his face full of hate and angry is chef kiss.
@@nunufjabisnjas8068kratos was selfish and cruel in a lot of ways before, despite seeking forgiveness. The unnecessary acts like killing the boat captain after defeating the hydra, by letting him fall inside it, it's maybe the best example of it. Dude spent an eternity of suffering as a spectre and during all of his time dead never stopped hating Kratos, and he was right. Kratos killed him without even a motive when he was just a defenseless guy. Even Kratos himself recognised the cruelty of that. Don't forget that he killed a lot of innocent people during his adventures, he knew the consequences of killing the Greek Gods, like Helios. I'm not saying about he didn't suffer, cause the gods manipulated and ruined him during almost all his life. But there's no justification for his crimes against innocents.
@@Madheim777I don’t care about justification for killing people in a video game. Do people cry every time Venom from Spider-man rips someone’s head off? No, because he’s an anti-hero.
It’s who they are. Now how weird would it be if Venom was suddenly a good guy who cares about people’s feelings? I grew up with Kratos and seeing him be emasculated like this is infuriating.
And people are cheering it on 🤦♂️
@@nunufjabisnjas8068Get out.
You know what's interesting about Tyrs fight is that his weapons are from the four common worlds that were introduced in this game, Norse, Greek, Aztec, and Egyptian. That's pretty neat fight
All engraved in Animus Data.
Samurai sword.
@@brother_of_lightlmao samurai not sword samurai is person using katana
Spear and Shield - Norse, Greek
Macahuitl - Aztec
Khopesh - Egyptian
Nodachi - Japanese
@Rikirie ah I forgot all about Japanese mythology
It's been a long journey but Kratos did it. Absolutely heart wrenching, stunning ending and wonderful writing. Some of the best character development in any art form and surely only possible in a video game. Inspiring stuff and full of hope - we all can and must be better.
This was very nice and a good wrap up for recent events regarding Kratos’s journey. Helios as a head swapping places with mimir was funny af. Have to say, Tyr was bringing the heat in those fights, with all the weapons he’s learned, possibly mastered through his travels throughout realms and learning from other pantheons. He truly embodies the Norse God of War mantle that Kratos showed great respect for, which I have to say, is awesome af writing. Tyr and Kratos sparring and gleaming in what they’ve learned exerting themselves in combat is literally god tier therapy on some level we all wish we got 😂
This honestly makes me believe that if Santa Monica did a remake of the original game with the new engine and combat systems, in theory it could actually work!
that would be insane, in a good way
they remade models of levels and beings so it’s credibly likely
Any GOW of Kratos would work except the PS Vita versions because they are really short you can beat them in 3-5 hours
They'd probably just try and make it too realistic, when it comes to graphics and design and aesthetics of course, they probably wouldn't change too much of the story but nowadays it's like every game need to be 100% photorealistic and everything, of course I hooe that if they do it they don't me wrong but I dont think it'll happen
@@cianboyne378 that's what I'm thinking. It's like they purposely did it to make people think "omg what if they remade the trilogy???". They know what they're doing haha.
We got so much love with this dlc, provided so much clarity to the end of kratos' arc
It’s not the end of kratos, the sigma king shall rise again, all hail the god of war, and all hail the 5000+ games coming out because kratos is a money farm for developers because he’s so cool 🗿
it is for his character ARK.... lol he even said that in his comment.@@longerkonger1757
Maybe it’s just that this is where we finally get to see how kratos out to at a end from his past
@@longerkonger1757 It's the end of Kratos from the trilogy. Now is the start of a new one.
i wanted to fight this younger kratos
i was totally expecting us to come blows to blows
leviathan axe vs blades of chaos
hopefully in a faye dlc or faye section in a new game
Kratos confronting his past and forgiving himself for all the terrible things he's done really sheds a tear to my eye.
Is not about forgiving himself i believe just finding peace im what he already did
@@wolfman210 i think bro
Did you really cry? Lol
Same, tears came form my face as I said you can change, you’ve been through, we’ve been through so much take the throne, your worthy.”
@justingary5322 yes yes same like i said
This dlc is SO important to the full story of kratos, making it free is a major gift that not only was not neccessary but also totally unexpected. Giving this dlc for free is a very classy act and has won my loyalty as a customer. Any game this team makes will be in my library on principle even if i dont play it. Devs who treat their customers well deserve to be supported and I hope others continue to support them as well.
Wait its free
Yep. Also it's a gift by sta Monica. So basically they won our patience when they're going to make possibly more gow. Since kratos son is on a journey and papa here just got his PTSD check. So it's good to see or very interesting what's the next saga? Roman? Carthaginian? East? Egyptian? Since kratos basically torn that Nile monster open maybe more? Aztec or indian stories perhaps?
16:32 the fact that he actually said “Hello,Helios” is mind blowing to me. This is a completely different Kratos now
He humored the annoying severed head 😅
If he was still the Kratos of god of war 2 he would've spiked the head like a football instantly.
All I'm saying is that there is a lot to learned from this DLC this is peak philosophy of forgiving oneself
Very fitting considering some of the greatest philosophers were all Greek
@@ericscorch6272 very much so Spartans were not only for combat but stoic philosophers as well it goes along with their military training of learning discipline
@@Big_HonesieDepends on the Spartan, Athenians were more wise but more lazy too.
Vinland Saga also
Not forgiving, accepting and moving forward and becoming better. Kratos can never forgive his actions lol man was a borderline villain for years
I cannot get over Tyr just picking up Kratos with one hand and holding him like a child 😭
He is ABSOLUTELY holding back.
Tyr is being a Mentor
Tyr or Kratos? I think they both are considering their little bouts are essentially therapy/sparring matches lol
@@pale_lad1252 Oh yeah, they're not seriously fighting to harm one another, but I think Tyr especially is a lot more powerful than what he showed off here.
@@SnagTheRabbitares of Norse in terms of strength rival Thor himself
He is no joke
@@SnagTheRabbitwell so is kratos lol I think he can solo tyr with ease if he fueled himself with rage like his younger self but he's a better person now so will probably self nerf himself
11:37 the brotherly talk kratos had with mimir with mimir trying to convince him and let him know he is not the man he was. Hits so hard man. This is some conversation every friends/brothers should have without shame if they see their brother going downhill.
The growth they’ve allowed Kratos in the Norse games is incredible
it was bad
@@marcusclark1339you're right. Kratos was trash, never liked him in the earlier games. Just an angry, violent man, full of rage and testosterone... But I gotta say, this version is more thought out and well written.
Some quote I read that I can't recall where from and totally paraphrasing "What's a more captivating story? A hero who was born good and remained good till the end, or a story of a villain who overcomes their nature to become good?"
@@VexatedcanicusYou might possibly be thinking of a quote that Paarthurnax a dragon who plays a big roll in the Elder scrolls five skyrim says it goes as follows
“What is better ? to be born good or to overcome your evil nature through great effort ?”
@@XI-Daybreak there we go, thank you for that!
@@Vexatedcanicus np
Valhalla and Tyr really are just like, really targeted therapy for a PTSD riddled vet who's seriously seen some shit.... and the whole journey really is beautiful.
Man every time you see him in any game ever proves that minor is the definition of a W homie. He’s got advice, got your back, and he makes sure you know how far you’ve come. The goat of the past two games tbh
Are you trying to say mimir ?
@@random_guy_Ash I think he was
Auto or accidental misspelling
Stuff happens 😎
@@devinboyer275 ya
@@random_guy_Ash I HATEEEEEEE autocorrect
And he calls him out on any b.s.
It's hard to look at yourself and come to terms with the fuck ups you made in life. But if Kratos, a guy who murked an entire pantheon, can... then how hard is it for us to better ourselves every day?
A lesson we should really take to heart is the same as his. Tomorrow's always there for us to not be sorry about our past, but be better for the future.
I just hope the future generation doesnt go through the same thing
thank you bro whoever you are thank you. You are so real for this.
You are spitting nothing but facts here
I mean he's a fictional character with powers. And story writers.
Damn right, my friend. You’re spitting straight facts.
I feel like the ending of this is Corey telling everyone, "He was always more than just a hack-n-slash character and murdered people!" And he's right. His story has always been wrought with tragedy since the first game - and ever since. SO MUCH SO that I expected him to die in this one as the only way to truly give him peace. Then they tricked me and redeemed him.
There's still so much more we don't know about Kratos for him to die just yet like why was he prophesized to bring the end of the greek pantheon and what has Athena been doing since the end of GoW3 so i already knew he wasn't going to die on this DLC given all the plotthreads which have yet been resolved.
Now we need a game about Quiet so Hideos "she's naked for a reason that'll make you feel guilty" will make sense.
"That your legacy has always been a complicated one, that goodness is not a destination we arive at but a practice. Misfortune may drive anyone to darkness, we resist it only through wisdom and vigilance. You are not so unskillful now as you were then, better voices in your head you might call it." Wow beautifully written 💯💜
I love the vulnerability and more laid back nature of this kratos, I remember playing god of war on my PSP and asking why was he so angry (ofc being cheated by a god and killing your family does that) but this Kratos is far more impressionable and relatable, we’ve all done things in the past that we never want to uncover but fail to move on from
He's a Kratos that's capable of introspection and is given time and opportunity to stop and think about things.
Original trilogy Kratos was too busy being strung along on wild goose-hunts by the gods and tormented by cursed nightmares and monsters, even when he achieved apotheosis he couldn't stand to be around the sneering olympians and isolated himself.
whole thing was bad - so much is revisionism of what GoW is and was for this "movie game" design and narrative spin to fit their narrative on "being better" which is a terrible phrase and condescending at that
dlc was bad too
@@marcusclark1339 I respect that opinion and get where you’re coming from. My theory on that is because of the rapid growth in gaming and the “hack and slash” genre wouldn’t be as popular as it was when GoW was first developed. When you think of main characters now a days, they have to be dynamic enough for the players to grow with that character and I think having Kratos as a blood thirsty and raging vengeful character like back in the day wouldn’t have gotten the turnout from fans like the Kratos now.
@@marcusclark1339 I think the DLC also isn’t that great except for adding more to the game, lore and past of Kratos and it gears up for a step in the direction for new content and filling in the plot holes
@@LyricLabs_ "DLC isn't great, except adding more to the game, lore and it gears up in the step of new content and filling plot holes"... So... Everything a dlc should be? You forgot "free"btw
I like how we also see Tyr slowly get back into fighting shape throughout the DLC. Their collaboration helps Kratos to free himself, and helps Tyr to re-hone himself.
Mfer pulling out a katana for his final form cracked me up.
tyr was a good fight, but they maybe gave him a lil too many health pickups that made it kinda easy
Dude i wanna see tyr goin to Egypt, Japan AND Ancient Aztec lands to get his Nodachi, Kopesh, and OBSIDIAN EDGED CLAYMORE that can strike up MAGMA. his weapons along with the first 'dad of war" are HUGE pathways showing us where the series is heading next, and I'm excited! Japanese game for a second IMAGINE KRATOS WRESTLING THE NAMAZU! that HUGE quake causing catfish! or even going toe to toe with Anubis!
@@QuestionableObjectwhy?
@@dariannisch7511 Anime tropes
I won't lie, following Krato's acceptance is a little eye opening. Often we focus on the fighting and carnage, but we forget that Kratos is still part human. He makes mistakes, but he has human intentions. Plus I find his journey relatable, even if we never are responsible for mass destruction, the act of acceptance and broadening ourselves beyond our past mistakes and the act of hope for a better future is a strong message never the less.
its not - its a terrible revisionist narrative the modern games push about him and his story
@@marcusclark1339if you didn't like than there's something terrible wrong with you bcs everyone grows up so do your favorite games. That's really a well made closure
@@marcusclark1339
There's nothing revisionist about it. The first game literally opens with Kratos attempting suicide, his arc has always been about failure and triumph as well as learning to overcome negative emotions. If you somehow missed that then idk you must be mentally challenged.
35:34 Bro, Helios even went after the ashes of Kratos’ family forever stuck to his skin. They did such an amazing job of making Helios SUCH A DICK. 😂
“irony can have you when it earns you or whatever it is” 💀💀
If you rip my head like he did Helios and I get to torment you. I'll be doing exactly what Helios does to kratos
Bigger one than Heimdall.
Heimdall deserved his death. I still believe Helios didn't, at least not in the way done.
100%
If this DLC did anything, it definitively drives home the point that Kratos is one of the most deeply developed, and well crafted characters ever put into a video game. I remember picking up the original God of War for my PS2. His character arc has been, for me, the most satisfying narrative ever made.
Im so glad that they had Crispin reprise his role as Helios, definitely think he did a better job than Dwight did in Chains of Olympus, so im glad to see him back, even if it was brief.
Damn, seeing the younger Kratos in 4K is really fascinating and scary at the same time, especially at this moment 1:02:27, feels like he is about to stand up and destroy everything
You ain’t never lied 😂😂😂I was like oh shit, this man about to go in rage mode out the blue
He looks Insane on new gen hardware
@@zakinorse3059 OG games remastered when 👀👀
@@Crispy_Tea Hopefully this is a teaser for what’s to come! Next gen GOW remastered would be fire
Atreus would've been proud of him, also, Each of Tyr's Weapons are from Different Countries, the Spear are likely from Greece, the large Club are called Macualhuitl, a weapon from ancient Aztec, The twin Swords are definitely from Egypt, and the Obviously, the Katana are from Japan.
*kopesh from Egypt
@@timmelpereira3763 Yes, but they're still classified as swords.
The Japanese is Sword is a Noda chi very cool weapon
@@roantoska1530 Assuming the blacksmith who made it uses normal human body measurement, it is a Nodachi but for Tyr, it's just like a Normal Katana.
For real he'd be shocked at first, like "You fought TYR, Father? The Real TYR???? H-how did it go? Did you win?" That is if he's not shocked that Kratos had found the real Tyr before, lol.
Can we take a moment to appreciate the fact that Tyr mastered weapons from across the globe? He truly is a god of war and wisdom.
That is what intrigues me about tyr but the fact we can wear his armor in bold new beginning is something i never thought about doing until now
wish there was a list for every weapon he used and from where they came
@@dalton5903 Spear and shield-Greece
Club-Mayan/Incan empire
Kopesh-Egypt
Katana-Japan
@@ImperialKnight770 you've done me kindness, Thank you! Fascinating to see.
The god of war games honestly give me huge amount of motivation to better myself in life
There were so many amazing things done in this storyline, the entire Norse Saga of God of War has been amazing and this, this is a truly superb ending for Kratos. This very well may be the last canon addition to God of War we ever get and it feels so *complete* and *heavy*. We rarely see works of fiction where it's fully grown adults finding themselves and becoming whole, rarely see stories where it's more than just 'I must overcome my limits' or 'I must learn to accept my friends' help', but we got one in God of War 4 and 5 and now this DLC. Whoever wrote these games' scripts deserve so much praise and thanks.
Hopefully the Egyptian era will be as good in writing.
Let's give a big hand to Crispin "Alucard" Freeman for being Helios.
I KNEW I RECOGNIZED HIM!
15 years and he still managed to deliver the same iconic performance. This is what you call the definition of talent.
WINSTON!
Also Togusa and Itachi Uchiha
Crispin Freeman voiced Helios in GOW 3
IF TC Carson would've voiced young Kratos AND if the young Kratos would've fought the older Kratos....if there was a category for BEST DLC, that would've won it.
The older GOW games, great story, great voice acting, great combat, storyline...it was everything.
You havent learned the lesson that Kratos has then. You dont get over the past by pummeling into submission but by embracing it.
The fight could have ended with Kratos (the elder one) Literally choosing not to fight anymore, achieving both ends@@Etheral101
@@Etheral101 They could've talked to make amends with the past.
It already HAS won
@@Etheral101they can do both like what kartos and tyr’s do a cauple minute’s ago
Fighting therapy what i call it
"You have always been more than what others saw"
Don't think there's a better way to describe the first saga, or the entirety of God of War really. God of War has always had this stigma of 'angry hack and slash with little depth", to the point where people today still believe younger Kratos is better, and even stronger, than his current self and that before 2018 the games were extremely shallow. It's a good way to both self-reflect and really encapsulate what this series has been like.
I don't know if we'll get a continuation of this story, more than likely if we do it'll be as Atreus, as Loki, God of Mischief. But whatever we get i'll always have been glad to have gone through Kratos' entire journey, it's really a masterpiece in the gaming world
“Little depth” Are you talking about the combat of the first saga of god of war or Kratos as a character?
@@Snxggy1 From my experience its Kratos as a character, and moreso the story of the original games. Dunno why, suppose people just turned their brains off and just enjoyed the violence
Because younger Kratos IS stronger and better 😂
He was an anti-hero.
It’s what I liked about his character.
Him becoming a hero is such a big change. The new games make everything far too sentimental.
It used to be about Gore, tits and pure Testosterone.
Now God of War is about “feelings”
Loki isn't the God of Mischief. That's Marvel's version
@@nunufjabisnjas8068 He isn't stronger. Also Kratos is any person who ages and slowly gains wisdom and understanding, it's not about feelings, it's about growing up and learning to be better for us and the people close to us, be it our friends, children or other significant others.
I like that after all the time we spent in game. Kratos’ language proficiency has increased significantly. Small details that show he has learned a lot over the course of his journey in this world.
I cried at the end, I didn't even ever play any GoW, but this story is so universal and also so personal to me
Time to step up
Watching is good and all but man you have to play the games. It makes it that much more real
Santa Monica once again proving why they truly encapsulate gaming industry. Kratos finally laying his past to rest in a beautiful way, resting on his throne with only Mimir, his trusted companion, in his presence. Love it.
What is a God of War without his most trusted consul
mimir isnt his companion. As kratos stated in a side quest, Mimir is his brother..
not his actual brother but close enough to call him brother
This was a beautiful way to close Kratos’s arc
@@juanmejiagomez5514no no no no I don't it to end
And for free
Man, GoW has come such a long way since I was a kid. When I was 16 playing this, it was just 2--D violence going fight to fight being angry, and testosterone. Then when they revamped it in 2018, I never thought I would take lessons on how to be a better father from Kratos. The lessons I learned were patience and empathy towards someone who was once in their shoes, a kid.
And now I am learning other philosophical things, that really hit home and is ridiculous.
It's just ironic and impactful what a character Kratos has become. It's real growth and relatable, hints why it's such a great and beautiful story of masculinity and personal growth. I hope we can see more stories like this in the future, but I appreciate what a gem it is now.
While gow had a 2D entry, i highly doubt that's the one you played
Most god of wars were 3d just cuz the camera is pulled back more doesnt mean it isnt 3d i mean all have been barring side content even gears 1 was 3d
@@destroyer1107 I meant 2 Dimensional in an emotional sense.
@@dantetouchdown9030 Not what I meant by 2D.
1 hour but still longer than todays cod campaign
It was free though, nothing can beat that tbh
I understood that reference!
An hour of cutscenes yeah but it takes around 6 and a half and possibly more depending on the player to get through it all
1 hour but somehow feels more like a bang for your buck than a 70 dollar 4 hours long campaign lmao
It's closer to between 6 and 8 hours if you don't rush through it
Considering this was just a "rogue-like DLC", I am thoroughly impressed with the graphical work in this, it looks incredible.
The way Kratos said "Show Me" at 28:20 is bone chilling !
weapons Tyr used : Spear and shield are his own(correction in replies)
Macuahuitl, used by the Aztec and other ancient natives of the American continents.
Kopesh(2), developed in the Egyptian region and used through the middle east.
I'd like to say his last weapon is a Nodachi, which is likely since Tyr is so large a normal katana would be a knife to him.
The spear is Norse. All the iconography of Tyr in the game depicts him wielding that same spear and shield that he begins the fights with.
He visited all the realms
Seeing the macuahuitl brought a happy tear to my eye.
I love seeing the Valkyries help Kratos and Mimir, I love how they are all together now, gow never disappoint me such a masterpiece game.
No f*ck all of them for what they did to me in gow 4
Yeah and tying mimir in a relationship with sigrun is such a great idea. Gave him incentive to free them more in the first, and now it gives sigrun a more emotional incentive to help him and kratos back this game
I hope we can have that classic Kratos as a skin for the base game
We will
honestly that should be the reward for completing the dlc
Waiting mod 😂
I'm more surprised he didn't become young again once his realizations came full circle. It would have been perfect to give him another chance at his youth.
Granted he probably doesn't need it as he is already a changed man. But it also would've meant his adventures wouldn't end anytime soon.
@@Moloch_the_MAP Unless you mod it on PC yes you practically need a permit. 2023 devs are not like 2004 devs who let you play as the main villain. The great OP Game Dev move.
I love throughout the Mimir and Kratos opened up to each other as brothers. Mimir was so happy Kratos had found himself
I remember using Helios' shield in Chains of Olympus. Kratos with a shield was always a good look to me. Chains of Olympus was the only game I could play, but I followed the story as it went.
Helping Helios through that game's quest was just another day of plagues and disaster for Greece, that Kratos had to fix. I think he had to travel to Hades with the sun chariot to rescue Helios, which at some point, had him roped into killing Persephone after realized that taking his second chance at staying with his daughter Calliope in Elysium would allow Atlas and Persephone to destroy the world.
Persephone being depicted as hating her time in Hades is weird tho. Classic GoW depicts some gods incorrectly.
Seeing how Helios ends getting caught in GoW 3, he has every reason to be spiteful about being dead, but to put their relationship in a lens, after Chains of Olympus, Kratos never gets his end of the bargain he constantly asks from Athena.
And sure, Helios does send his chariot to carry Kratos out of Elysium, but he doesn't offer anything for his journey afterwards. Kratos's service stayed thankless and unrewarded. No need for Pandora's Box there, they kept him on a leash anyway.
For the sake of narrative progression, the pantheon had it coming, but it's really sweet to explore deeper and personal subtext of Kratos' journey.
A neat detail here:
The ending where Kratos sits on the throne, notice the lighting and how it affects his skin.
It's as if the ashes are gone.
It's as if his curse has been lifted.
It's as if he's finally reached what he's been searching for, solitude from what he's been fighting.
This is no longer the Ghost of Sparta...this is a God of Hope.
I'm sure Lyssandra, Caliope and Fey are proud wherever they are.
Gayyyy
Yea that was the first thing I thought as well, he is the god of hope
I love that even the throne changes from Ares’ to a new one. The Norns really were right. Kratos of Sparda really did die so Kratos of Valhalla may live
This DLC is Tyr giving Kratos one big therapy session and I love it lol
In the end after Kratos finally comes to terms and makes peace with his past self you can see when he sits on the throne he lowers his guard and he has a smile like expression on his face showing he finally succeeded on changing fully embracing that he can change and not make the same mistakes as he did in the past.
This just shows how much Kratos has developed through out the games this is top tier character development. And I actually wouldn't mind if they make Kratos not the main protagonist in the next God of War game, like we can just see him as a side character or just flashbacks of him. This DLC pretty much is already a good ending to close the Kratos chapter and start anew.
Bruh. This is the best cutscene supercut ive ever scene. Keeps in game dialog and doesnt skip over the real small stuff. Bravo
The self reflection his words brought to me to look back on myself and all I have done and chose to do even when I knew better, was more than I expected to realize from this gameplay. We can all be better, especially those of us who know better. We fight so much with ourselves and the life we live is because we know, that deep down, we are not being who we can be and doing what could be doing. Even when we’ve felt like we’ve given our all, ask yourself, “have I?”
You starting to sound like Tyr yourself which is Good and i respect that brother
@@racceflippa6723 thank you brother, I appreciate that
49:55 "I am back to brighten your day", of all the people, Helios is the one who made it sound so funny
I must admit, I'm surprised. I hadn't expected them to actually show us Valhalla.
I recall that Mimir said Hel tortures its inhabitants with their own pasts.
I suspect Valhalla has the opposite effect: By driving us to accept ourselves and our faults, it allows us to grow stronger and... be better.
Maybe I'm odd, but I don't see it as Valhalla and Hel doing opposite things. I think they do the same thing, but it's the PEOPLE involved in it that are different.
Those in Valhalla want to change, be more than what they once were.
Those in Hel... don't. Maybe they can't, maybe they refuse to.
At least, in this universe.
Tyr and Kratos, just two bros beating the shit out of each other to support the others mental health. Brings a tear to my eye 🥲
fun fact: this is what my dad and his best friend used to do: when one of the two was severely down in the dumps, they'd go to their friend's boxing gym (neither of them seriously boxed), they'd punch each other for a while and then come to an hunderstanding on what to do.
Sometimes, percussive maintenance does not work just on machinery, it also works on humans...and just like with machinery, the effectiveness of percussive maintenance lays in not going overboard for it
This is what us guys could use more of. Irony being that nowadays fighting is frowned upon in society yet where I come from if you get in a scrap with someone and you're both holding your own, if a wise ass gets the balls to be a snitch here and calls the cops, the cops will ACTUALLY let you 2 fight it out, provided 2 things: #1 no weapons. And #2 nobody's being maimed or intentionally hurt. You'll do about 2 months in the klink but odds are you'll get out in 3 days.
tyr to yer Eye heh
@Metroid_Hunter don't assume shit bud, you only make an ass out of u and me. As for tyr I don't much care for lore. As for me, I don't strike first if that's what your meager implications are being directed at.
Classic dudes.
Tyr being a god of war that incorporates weapons from his different travels through mythologies is perfect. Nice detail i see they kept from the last GOW about how tyr kept his various hordes of weapons and treasures in his vaults.
I love how even though he has accepted the throne he has also had to accept HE CHOSE to make the deal with Ares & become God of war he can't forgive his past but he can live with it
I wished his og VA, TC. Carson, would have spoken back to him. That’d have been epic
was waiting for that too, but understandable
Wow. Never seen a DLC that made me want to become a better man. An absolute masterclass in writing. It felt like a perfect introspection for Kratos and even let me think and apply this to my life- which is what a great story should do. Absolutely fantastic
"Death can have me when it earns me."
Freya: Valhalla only restores those who die honrably in combat.
Welp... Looks like this man won't die =/
I mean, he came really really close too when he broke Valhalla (if he didnt have Sigurn watching at that time it was GG for Kratos)
The man's plot armour is literally unbreakable
But the plot chains are not O_O@@jokerknight1247
Until he emerges out of Helheim :P@@thomasallen9974
The lighting at the end making his skin look like it doesn’t have the ash on it is so good. Like ugh… I HAVE NO WORDS FOR HOW IT MAKES ME FEEL!!!!! SO GOOD!!!!
wtf are u talking about?
1:04:44
@@KamusariHRthere it is
Bro it's still ashy fkm?@@googol572
They should have called this game, God of War: Therapy Sessions. Because this is basically what this game was.
This DLC feels like a bridge to the next game. Tyr boss fights he uses weapons from Egypt and Aztec mythology. That’s already a big hint.
So that means instead of realms, were gonna jump from pantheon to pantheon with mimir
@@Kratos_Messi7050 Mimir is probably going to stay with Sigrun as i can't imagine him wanting to travel to who knows what dangerous realms as a talking head only for him to barely provide much wisdom in places which he doesn't personally know. That said i would love it if he did tagged along with Kratos in future adventures.
@@javiervasquez625 i think we'll get tyr as a companion instead
@@javiervasquez625but mimir is smartest because he makes it his business to learn what he doesn't already know. I think he'd definitely risk death if that meant more knowledge or if he could help kratos in any way with his council. That being said, him ending up with sigrun is pretty cool too
We saw those mythologies in the firs god of war in Tyr's temple.
26:10 the amount of pain this guy can handle is insane
For some reason I think this could turn into a meme
"My death is what began this journey"
- Kratos, God of War 2
When those ashes faded and he sat on the throne it gave me goosebumps . Been playing since ps2 days and after playing this dlc it was a great way to close out a saga
I keep seeing people say stuff about the ashes fading, but i don't see it? Or isn't he suppose to be darker than that...?
When he sits back if u look at the lighting the ashes start to fade when he sits back. Thats why he glances at he’s arms
I love how when Freya and the others confront Kratos, they all have a chuckle on how Kratos opened the gate to Valhalla with his bare hands XD.
He truly became, "Better" and I think that those of us who have been with him since the beginning see as well as feel that he has. He earned his throne and should be proud to sit upon it.
Young kratos will always be better imo
@@nunufjabisnjas8068Get out.
@@nunufjabisnjas8068 You are probably talking about gameplay wise, this is the most complete version of Kratos.
@@blaze9552that dude have been talking sh*t about the story, saying that young kratos is better than the current kratos when in fact it's not, the guy clearly don't understand how story telling works.
Young Kratos is deff better imo lol Kratos becoming better is like Hitler becoming better lmao 🤣
Was really hoping for a Zues or young Kratos fight, I think it would've topped it off. We probably won't ever get that now that this chapter for him is over.
Young Kratos fight would have been on point, as that's functionally what Kratos has been doing all this time. But I don't think Zeus would fit. Notice all the people he's killed who have returned are the ones he regrets? Magni and Modi were basically pawns of Odin, and the sons of parents who honestly loved them (If being flawed themselves). Helios was a god he slaughtered who did not deserve his fate.
But Zeus? Zeus *absolutely* had it coming. I think the only regret Kratos had about killing Zeus was that there was so much collateral damage getting there. Zeus was as bad as Odin, if not worse.
its all from his mind, he truly believes zeus had to die, but not the others he killed.
@@IsilmeTuruphantwouldn't say that. He was corrupted by fear. He also has a cut voice line about the fear
@@extinctiongaming3556 Yet since that line was cut we can thusly assume it is non canon as to Zeus's personality within the GoW universe.
@@javiervasquez625not really, it is still canon considering Zeus at the end, didn't put up a fight anymore and just let kratos beat his ass after kratos purged him off the fear but even if he pleads, it wouldn't still matter as everything is too far gone and it was still his fault.
“Helios: so What’s New with you, kratos? Murdered any good pantheons lately” 💀💀
Kratos' younger self was so imparted to the players that when he moved at 1:02:27 I was expeting that he will stand up and was about to do shit 😂
and the fact that young Kratos is still so intimidating even when seated proves that he really left a mark on who he really was in the past.
a cool part I like about the ending cutscene is that when he sits down he's lit up in a glow that makes his skin look a little more natural instead of it's usual ashen white. Showing he's moved on from the sins of his past by temporarily cleansing him of the one that catalyzed the entire series.
This story is so good that you could recommend this to anyone that argues mental illnesses aren't that serious and they'll change their mind instantly.
Kratos went through the whole cycle and getting to witness that is an emotional roller coaster for sure.
Another game that does similarly is Omori. It disguises the mental illness recovery behind it’s art style, but after playing through the prologue you get wrapped up in the journey of the protagonist.
I highly recommend playing it (or watching it if you can’t)
@@dexchampion2128 Omori is seriously top 5 games for me
I think Kratos also fought his younger self before and now that theyre doing it here again is pretty cool!
27:27 The back and forth between the two god of war's has to be one of the coldest conversation that I've ever seen.
Man this still doesn't even begin to cover all the destruction and death Kratos caused.He was already a general with a big enough body-count even before the god thing. But then killing Poseidon flooded the seas, thousands if not millions drowned, when he killed Hermes a horrible plague was released on the few people that had survived, he killed Hera resulting in death of all plant life in Greece...to cut a long story short, Kratos did the equivalent of dropping 2 or 3 nukes in Greece just to kill one dude. That's some Pablo Escobar shit on turbo mode
The DLC we never asked but we totally deserve
tons of people asked for a dlc
@@seplol But most didnt ask for a DLC focussing on this plotpoint
@@michaelshahoe nobody really asked for a specific plot to the dlc at all. they just wanted a dlc regardless of what santa monica wouldve made it
@@seplolthats the point. The OP said "The DLC we never asked". OP isnt talking about DLC in general but this specific DLC being something "we" totally deserved.
@@michaelshahoe i think youre digging too deep into op’s comment. “the dlc” can mean several things such as:
referring to the only dlc we have
specific type of dlc
referring to the dlc that is the current topic
alternate way of saying “a dlc”
we cant say for sure which one op meant so lets not assume