MMA means Mix Marshal Arts, so Systema could be part of it! l train mma, we do not have elements of Systema in our club (at least I think) - but from what l see on net and some seminars it looks very good! Has a very interesting concept that goes well in sparring and most importantly they are having a lot of fun... interesting exercises and games! Big respect for Systema guys! Any martial art is good on the street, the core is discipline and to know how to take control!
3:38 shows two on one kick boxing. Which is good to train in but each attacker tends to be hit back into retreating. If they went in and grabed on him the fight wouldn't go so well as it did. A general view of it all and seeing MMA mixed with systema. It seems pretty effective their isn't use of eye gauges and other reality baseted techniques but I wouldn't say their ignored. But basicly this is a good way to train with an enjoyable MMA method which ppl will enjoy.
imam veliku zelju da pocnem da treniram neku borilacku vestinu zato sto zelim da razvijem svoje telo posto sam u zadnjih 4 meseca izgubio 20kg i sa 100 sam pao na 80 ali mi je problem sto ne znam da li da krenem ruski sistem ili mma , takodje ako bih mogao da saznam mesecnu cenu za treninge kao i termine . Hvala unapred .
@scarred10 I don't know what you expect to see during full contact exercises - do you think its meant to look like a kung fu movie? I don't see anything "turning to shit". I see intelligent and realistic work under the inevtiably messy context of full contact. These guys are honing realistic self defence skills for real life situations, such as multiple opponents and maintaining focus under stress. Bit harder than sport 1on1. A strength of good Systema schools like Kostic's.
@scarred10 yeah I got a bit tetchy, for which there was no call. I understand your perspective. You're probably right about mma being the best training fo many situtaions. I still think GOOD systema has a lot to offer, purely combatively, that other styles don't. Inc the soft work, which is a training tool, not a fighting technique. Also I'd say say over 50% of so called systema on YT is sh!t. I'll write you a personal message explaining my views when I get the chance. Cheers
@scarred10 "forgetting their systema"? Are you a systema expert? I guess everything you know about systema is watching YT. I.e. nothing. So don't presume to say what systema is and isn't. You don't know (even tho you're really interested). If you're into MMA you can't assess the quality of these guys' work because you won't understand their methods or goals. You're looking for 1on1 sport fighting technique. Of course you don't see it. These guys have different goals-pure survival, no limits.
@CNCTEMATIC look,what i ean by turning to shit is that none of what they do during drills and soft work can be applied in contact,its the same with all shite styles,they waste their time on stuff that cannot be done under pressure.Everybody here would e a lot better if the trained like mma fighters but the tactical and psycho considerations for the street.Everything looks like mma anyway when real so why not just train for it properly.
Is anyone else besides me getting sick of all of this choreographed stuff? Please please please show me REAL situations instead of these very tired old "self defense" techniques that in a REAL FIGHT just do not work. They look great on video when everyone knows what the other will be doing that's not realistic. Reminds me of my old Tae Kwon Do classes in the 70's! Show me a REAL LEGIT situation on the street using these techniques!
+PAUL DOWLING type "mass attack systema". The probleme is every martial system or sport combat is basically set up fights situations u will rarely find in the street. Systema insist on the wave concept, the flow. But it does takes in consideration louders strikers and sparing fights. I assure you, if you want test, try to have a class with Alex Kostic, trust me man, u will see all the real aspects ;)
PAUL DOWLING so you want the guys in this gym to go into a bar and start a brawl? And record it at risk of going to jail and hurting themselves and others? Also you realise one of them actually competed in MMA?
@CNCTEMATIC they cant even do 1 on 1,y turning to shit I mean they are forgetting their systema horshit uder pressure ad resorting to very poor standard sport combat.Nobody in that vid would last 1 session in any boxing,thai or mma group ive ever been in.THE FACT THAT THEY SPAR AT ALL IS GOOD THOUGH,MOST DO ZERO FULL CONATCT WORK.
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Momci fenomenalni ste.
Great work and excellent video. Alex's class looks fantastic.
There's a lot of great new Systema vids coming out just now!
I like what you guys are doing...gonna try to adopt it to my Krav(I'm still beginner in Krav)
damn... genious!
MMA means Mix Marshal Arts, so Systema could be part of it! l train mma, we do not have elements of Systema in our club (at least I think) - but from what l see on net and some seminars it looks very good! Has a very interesting concept that goes well in sparring and most importantly they are having a lot of fun... interesting exercises and games! Big respect for Systema guys! Any martial art is good on the street, the core is discipline and to know how to take control!
3:38 shows two on one kick boxing. Which is good to train in but each attacker tends to be hit back into retreating. If they went in and grabed on him the fight wouldn't go so well as it did.
A general view of it all and seeing MMA mixed with systema. It seems pretty effective their isn't use of eye gauges and other reality baseted techniques but I wouldn't say their ignored. But basicly this is a good way to train with an enjoyable MMA method which ppl will enjoy.
kolika je clanarina?
imam veliku zelju da pocnem da treniram neku borilacku vestinu zato sto zelim da razvijem svoje telo posto sam u zadnjih 4 meseca izgubio 20kg i sa 100 sam pao na 80 ali mi je problem sto ne znam da li da krenem ruski sistem ili mma , takodje ako bih mogao da saznam mesecnu cenu za treninge kao i termine . Hvala unapred .
@scarred10 I don't know what you expect to see during full contact exercises - do you think its meant to look like a kung fu movie? I don't see anything "turning to shit". I see intelligent and realistic work under the inevtiably messy context of full contact. These guys are honing realistic self defence skills for real life situations, such as multiple opponents and maintaining focus under stress. Bit harder than sport 1on1. A strength of good Systema schools like Kostic's.
ma u martu se vracam na treninge!!!!
@scarred10 yeah I got a bit tetchy, for which there was no call. I understand your perspective. You're probably right about mma being the best training fo many situtaions. I still think GOOD systema has a lot to offer, purely combatively, that other styles don't. Inc the soft work, which is a training tool, not a fighting technique. Also I'd say say over 50% of so called systema on YT is sh!t. I'll write you a personal message explaining my views when I get the chance. Cheers
Really different of Riabko Systema but nice !
@scarred10 "forgetting their systema"? Are you a systema expert? I guess everything you know about systema is watching YT. I.e. nothing. So don't presume to say what systema is and isn't. You don't know (even tho you're really interested). If you're into MMA you can't assess the quality of these guys' work because you won't understand their methods or goals. You're looking for 1on1 sport fighting technique. Of course you don't see it. These guys have different goals-pure survival, no limits.
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Pa ti onda idi na efs kad ti je bolje
@CNCTEMATIC look,what i ean by turning to shit is that none of what they do during drills and soft work can be applied in contact,its the same with all shite styles,they waste their time on stuff that cannot be done under pressure.Everybody here would e a lot better if the trained like mma fighters but the tactical and psycho considerations for the street.Everything looks like mma anyway when real so why not just train for it properly.
opasno, opasno...
@CNCTEMATIC look what happens when they spar with contact,it turns to shit like all bullshit fantasy styles.
Is anyone else besides me getting sick of all of this choreographed stuff? Please please please show me REAL situations instead of these very tired old "self defense" techniques that in a REAL FIGHT just do not work. They look great on video when everyone knows what the other will be doing that's not realistic. Reminds me of my old Tae Kwon Do classes in the 70's! Show me a REAL LEGIT situation on the street using these techniques!
+PAUL DOWLING type "mass attack systema". The probleme is every martial system or sport combat is basically set up fights situations u will rarely find in the street. Systema insist on the wave concept, the flow. But it does takes in consideration louders strikers and sparing fights. I assure you, if you want test, try to have a class with Alex Kostic, trust me man, u will see all the real aspects ;)
+Simon Paboeuf Agreed as far as what most MA classes do. It's not real. To be authentic show me REAL situations. Where does Kostic live?
PAUL DOWLING so you want the guys in this gym to go into a bar and start a brawl? And record it at risk of going to jail and hurting themselves and others?
Also you realise one of them actually competed in MMA?
@CNCTEMATIC they cant even do 1 on 1,y turning to shit I mean they are forgetting their systema horshit uder pressure ad resorting to very poor standard sport combat.Nobody in that vid would last 1 session in any boxing,thai or mma group ive ever been in.THE FACT THAT THEY SPAR AT ALL IS GOOD THOUGH,MOST DO ZERO FULL CONATCT WORK.