Egypt/Kemet came from Nubia/Kush. All the secrets, all the art work, and all the historical facts and documents are hidden away and buried in private collections, museums, institutions, and facilities of the deep state, shadow government, nazi mob kartel. There's a reason they're suppressing the truth. Mind control. It's part of the de-Blacking of history .
Caz Racist Eurocentric white supremacist and the Arab invaders have stolen and assumed the identity of an ancient African culture and we are just tryin to get it back. Its obvious the Nubians were black and the Egyptians were related to them.
@@arielslack7015 Lol no it wasn't, ancient Egypt had trade connections to Kush and Kingdoms in Abyssinia and that's basically it. Egypt has no cultural or religious history shared with the majority of the continent and was more deeply tied into the Mediterranean trade system.
Disrespecting Egyptian culture, heritage! The gull to tell the Egyptian 's That primarily the Black's of North western Africa were decendants of thier people. , as you see they put them Straight! Just because Michael Jackson made a video of American blacks portraying Egyptian's you believe they are you!! 😆
@@George-zd6rb Yes!!! Michael Jackson made a video portraying American blacks as Ancient Egyptians is correct!! Many of them have the 1b1a,, V-E38. Y chromosomes that is Connected to Ramses III ..Their's is a bases in Scientific Fact!!!!
I like how these Afrocentrists look at Egypt and their argument is 'theyre surrounded by black countries' but don't look at North African countries like Libya, Algeria and Morocco that occupies the same general latitude as Egypt. And they harp on the fact that Egypt borders Sudan but left out that it also neighbours Saudi Arabia and Jordan. And another one is 'but Egyptians were okay with white people actors' like no they weren't. They weren't happy about it but the internet didn't exist so it's heard about less.
Kemet does not border Saudi Arabia. It's split. Secondly, even the Kemites themselves claimed they originated in upper Kemet. The originators of the culture, followed the Nile north, then annexed and killed then absorbed the Levantines in the Delta. This is shown on Narmers pallet.
@@monsieurlemon Egyptians definitely don’t resemble white people. At least not the original ones. We clearly see Roman’s and Greeks towards the end of the dynasties. We know they were not the original Egyptians.
Gosh, what a tangled web. So, in a nutshell, the Dutch Rijksmuseum van Oudheden has put together an exhibition to chime in on the American social issue (and obsession) over race by using ancient Egypt and, in the process, bulldozed over Egypt's sense of national identity and heritage. This is probably why museums should avoid being sectarian.
Obsession !!!! Yes!!! I see the Afrocentrist point of view!!!! They are on a Mission to correct the Fake History of the lies of Anti African scholars and settler colonialist of the invaders of the African Continent. I hope the obsession continues !!! Into all out war on this subject. Million of lives have been lost. Millions of km of Land has been lost ..Those whom memorize those ancestors that were murdered by settler colonialist forces,ARE NOT FORGETTING!!! The Afrocentrist say The African Continent is in Their DNA!!!!
And you think Kevin Hart gives a fuck lol his rich and there fighting a loosing Battle I present to you the mummy of Shemai ruclips.net/video/qZMGpJCT2xk/видео.html
@@katakyni1829 In 1900, no Egyptians called themselves Arabs. Syrian, Palestinian, and Lebanese intellectuals were begging Egyptians to call themselves Arabs, and they refused up to the 1930s. Then, they decided it could be a good political idea since they were all Muslims and spoke Arabic, and since Egypt had the biggest population, they could be the leaders. It was about politics. It was Nasser's idea and those who followed him. Pharaohnism is making a come back and fewer and fewer are viewing themselves as Arabs again.
Afrocentrism and Egypt is literally no different than the Nazi’s ideology about Ancient Greeks and Romans being Germanic. What they refuse to believe is that those Greeks and Romans clearly viewed the peoples to the north of them as Barbarians and the Ancient Egyptians saw the people south of their borders as barbarians as well which is something the Afrocentrists also refuse to believe.
While I understand what youre trying to say (although not entirely agreeing) Your metaphor and OP's in the video about Finns and Brits kinda falls through, because all groups presented are all still white.
I visited the exhibition a few days ago and it was informed by Afrocentrism. Among other things, they have a little text explaining how, when Frank Ocean talks about black Cleopatra in his 2012 song Pyramids, he does not talk about the colour of her skin, but about her black identity! What bothered me the most was the complete lack of the Egyptian perspective, even for the sake of dialogue. I get that it was about Egypt in jazz and hip-hop but surely there must be Egyptian jazz and hip-hop artists inspired by their own past, and not just US musicians? I am not Egyptian, but I found it appropriative and not engaging in a dialogue with afrocentric theories but only presenting them as the way we should be seeing Egypt: essentially replacing the eurocentric lens with an afrocentric one, and celebrating all those US African-American artists who claim Egypt for their own.
@@loc1123 The idea came to them a few years ago, because hip-hop is one of the most popular music genres in all of Europe right now (esp. in northern Europe and Scandinavia) and they were trying to connect with a younger audience. As for the director, it is his job to defend it.... It is their bad luck that the exhibition opened now and not three or four years ago, as it had been the original plan.
Arab Republic of Egypt 🇪🇬 1953-present can't handle the truth After all this time lying to themselves!!! They are not Ancient Kemet Indigenous River Nile Vally Civilization. They are not E1b1a origin E-V38 DNA...haplogroup found In the body of Ramses III. My source ...23 and Me Genomic and Biotechnology Company.,,South San Francisco California..States it's origin is Northeast Africa, east Africa Across to Senegal, Niger, Nigeria Chad, and Sudan,Eritrea, Djibouti,all Across the Sahel..Ethiopia and Somalia. And far south As South Africa.
Why dig ???It Is Arab Republic of Egypt 🇪🇬 Culture and History to discover their OWN History ? We will not allow foreigners to violent our Royals Graves!!
@@blenderbanana Actually, according to a study of New Kingdom mummies, they had a lot of ancient Near Eastern ancestry, so the Levantine ancestry is from New Stone Age Levantines and Fertile Crescent, not recent people. They are Muslims because they were converted through pressure. Before that, they were Christians.
@@QUINTUSMAXIMUS I don't doubt that there was congress between the elite. There always is. But to describe the proletariat population as Levantine is quite the contortion. It would be like describing ancient Algerians as Vandal in origin, due to their conquest in the 5th century. They were certainly "familiar"(👌👈) with the Roman Community, but North Africans were not Vandals.
This museum shaped my childhood, and partly sparked my love for Ancient Egypt. I find this turn of events very tragic, and it saddens me deeply that the Rijksmuseum of Oudheden will not be a part anymore of the archeology done in Saqqarra.
Blame nationalism I guess. I did something no one in this comment section did and went to look something very important up: does the museum offer other exhibits about ancient egypt so being there means you will actually come away with a decent understanding? And it does. That turns the narrative on its head and makes Egypt's actions looks as unreasonable as they are. The afrocentric part also screams lowkey racism. They really should have stuck with the narrative of Hollywood elites reducing ancient egypt to a wardrobe option. Which isn't untrue. It's a travesty a hollywood actor with no historical background was allowed to make a history documentary and then cite grandma as a source when she turned it into fucking fanfiction. But at least she is upfront about shoddy sources, making a debunk easy.
What they really don’t like is the truth being told and that’s the truth. If they want to claim the Roman’s time in Egypt fine if you want claim all the invaders time in Egypt fine but when you go back to it’s beginning middle and really it’s end those people were Black Africans it’s a reason they will Not allow the dna testing by an independent party it’s a resson why they will only release dna from the Roman times funny thing is that doesn’t even tie those Arabs to the land and people that goes right over bigots heads! Not one mummy has been tied to those Arabs not one, but Robert Ross dna 🧬 linked him to his ancient ancestor Pharaoh Ramses lll and he is guess what African American now tell some more lies! The farther you go back the Blacker the people are!
Black Americans are related to Ancient Kemet Civilization of the River Nile Valley Civilization that extend to central Africa.DNA E-V38 and E1b1a Is the haplogroup.. Ramses lll belong .According to 23 and Me ..;a personal Genomics and Biotechnology Company based in South San Francisco California. E1b1a haplogroup and E-V38 DNA groups are mainly found today in Northeast Africa,Saharan region,The Sahel. West Africa to East Africa.For example from Senegal to Somalia,Sudan and Ethiopia. Mines is not the complete list of countries. I got addition information as a scientific researcher. Additional according to 23 and Me one of the most famous person whom have E1b1a DNA. Is Mr Nelson Mandela former President of South Africa,belongs to Haplogroup E1b1a(Y-DNA)(also known as E-M2) typical of Bantu peoples.
@@eveadel1861Yes I am not an indigenous African.!!!! I don't have the hapologroup E1b1a ,E-V38 DNA i am a History and Scientific Researcher!!! I don't know your country??? What is it exactly?????
The museum deserves being banned for allowing an Afrocentric attack on Egyptians. It's a load of historical revisionism. These people are of West and Central African heritage, and their ancestors had no clue that Egypt existed long ago as they were so far away from Egypt. As one scholar said, trying to make Egypt black is about a kind of therapy. If anyone looks at a map of Egypt, they will see it's attached to the Levant, so it's natural they had ancient ancestry from the Levant, so they were most definitely mixed.
I don't believe it to be "an attack". It's misguided assumptions..lack of communication between the museum, the Egyptian people and the American entertainer, if they wanted to include the entertainers at all. I think it shows on the positive side, the respect that African Americans have for the Egyptian culture.
What exactly was revised it’s been proven time and again the Ancient indigenous peoples of Egypt were a Black African Nile Valley Civilization they are still digging up Mummies only to Find out they were Black Shemai the Latest one. Lived during the first intermediate period and was part of the ruling Class So it’s not revisionist history it’s based on factual History.
One of the main tenets of the Woke/SJW movement is racism (DEI also falls under this). A bunch of white, liberal neets who never leave their parents' homes have been allowed too much influence on Western society, and this kind of bs is one of the effects. The brain rot is unreal.
Can we please just stick to facts when it comes to history. People should not be shoving personal belief in history and claiming it as fact, and I mentioned this in a video of my own. As a fan of Egyptian history, I feel bad for the Egyptian people whose history is being lost.
I feel bad for them too, since they called their Land Kemet and not Egypt - and they also never spoke arabic. You seem to be indoctrinated by an old eurocentric narrative.. It's okay though - I'll give you a lesson : The ancient civilizations in the land which is now called Egypt - were not the same people that inhabit the lands now. The dynasties have been usurped and the current occupyer is trying to silence and censor the narrative on its history.
@@OrthoKarter whatever dude Egypt is on the Continent of Africa and it’s originators Were and is Black Africans and if you don’t think so your only lying to yourself.
replace "woke" with afrocentric. i think thats more accurate. i like the idea of showing modern reception of antiquities. reception is something that is usually skimmed over in museology. however it needs to be done with a healthy and easy to understand discussion and reflection. it seems the museum forgot that part... and now it looks like they even side with afrocentrism. poor archaeologists who got kicked out because of their shitty museum. very big oof.
As a dutch person, I'm appalled by the clear political agenda driving this exhibition, but even more so by the unbelievable, childish stubbornness of the museum director even when confronted by real (and completely justified) repercussions. For a normal person this kind of discourse is ridiculous enough, but for a prominent member of the scientific community it's inexcusable. Shame on you, Wim Weijland! edit:spelling
Second that. And what exactly does ancient Egypt have to do with modern singers??? This kind of exhibitions belong in an art museum, not in a history museum!
Ancient Egypt had a generally diverse population (and i don't mean that in the woke definition). there were mercenaries from every corner of the Mediterranean and yes Sudan who settled in the region and Egypt had a significant import of slave labor which always introduces genetic admixture from neighboring peoples. *Generally* most of their ancestry is closely related to the Levant, which makes sense considering how much they interacted with the Phoenician and Jewish civilizations. claiming cleopatra as African is pretty apocryphal considering we have very explicit records of her Greek genealogy and her appearance. there are plenty of African Civilizations that they could simp for but they choose Egypt because it's the one everyone knows about instead of investing the time and effort to explore their own heritage in Africa which has plenty of civilizations such as Aksum, the Hausa, and the Ashanti peoples. They choose not to invest the effort in singing their praises and try to piggyback off of Egypts clout. there are parts of Egyptian history Africans CAN claim but i rarely see this done and most of the time it's Hoteps who paint a broad stroke across its entire 6,000 years of history instead of choosing to look at the Nubian dynasty and their accomplishments and push those into popular culture so modern African Americans have something to look towards for their heritage other than slavery. I really understand the impulse to do these things I'm Native American myself (Quapaw Tribe) and a lot of native history is straight up destroyed and contorted by colonization. I hope they can find and explore their own history and make sure its known in popular and black culture. I wish them the best and hope they do their due diligence.
Egypt as a Nation deserves to have a say in how their artifacts and history are portrayed and interpreted. those artifacts not found in shipwrecks or in other lands are up for grabs but Egypt themselves as well as any other African nation should be able to dictate how their history should be presented and have full control over the artifacts reclaimed from their countries and cultures. which do have a rich and immense cultural legacy and aesthetic i hope future black artists embrace.
You really made that up. Predynastic Egyptians (El Badari, Naqada I & II) have no affinity with the Levant but strong affinities with southern populations (Kemp, Ehret). In fact, the Ancient Egyptians claimed to be from Punt which was located in Ethiopia (DNA tests of mummified baboons). HLA studies cluster modern Greeks with BLACK AFRICAN populations because they carry subsaharan genes from a 5,000 years old admixture. Plus most Greek men carry the Egypto-cushitic haplogroup EV13. It matches with the story of the Pelasgians/Danaids who arrived from Egypt.
Glad you don’t frame any other videos (to my knowledge) like the title because I fell like complaining about “wokeness” will attract the wrong crowd to your videos
Idk why this whole "race" debate makes up some peoples entire personality, like who actually cares, the Ancient Egyptians are exactly that, they are ancient, and actual Egyptians are just as closely related to and Ancient Egyptians than I am my Ancient Greek ancestors, they might as well be their own race of people due to how far back they lived and how gene pools work.
Bro, Our Ancestors come from West and Central Africa. Its not hard to figure out. VERY FEW Black People believe this "Black Egypt" thing is in certain communities within Black People in the United States. The reason why some people claim this "Black Egypt" is because we live in a western European culture over here in the United States and Egypt is part of Western history. So it was a place to make us adjacent to history ("Western" History) since Our Ancestors were told we had no history or culture in West and Central Africa by history books. It was treated as if we had no history before the Transatlantic Slave Trade and that caused people back in the day like Yosef Ben Jochanan and John Henrike Clarke and other, who went to segregated schools as children and told they had no history as Black People, saw that Western History includes Egypt as "Pivotal" in the development of Western History along with the Hellenistic World, Rome, and the Levant. Since Egypt is in Africa (geographically but not politically or culturally) they attached themselves to it. Hip Hop is a culture that is also adjacent in this way to fringe ideas within the Black Community in the United States. Hip Hop is like Punk for Black People (even though the "Punk Sound" was created by three Black brothers back in the very early 70s). Its a rebellion of social norms and institutions that have historically down played Our History and contributions to Western History and the world at large. So Hip Hop clings on to these ideas of "Black Egypt" as a sense of empowerment. I have a huge problem with "Black Egypt" because it IGNORES Our actual History in West and Central Africa and the many Empires, Kingdoms and Cultures that thrived there INDIGENOUSLY such as the Nok, Dhar Titchitt, Jenno Jenne, Mali, Songhay, Hausa city states, Benin Kingdom, Kingdom of Nri, Ile Ife, Oyo, Wagadou, The Akan City States, Dahomey, Bakongo Kingdom, etc. Our Ancestors in West Africa did achievements as being on of the few places Agriculture and Pottery was independently discovered. And there is evidence that pottery in West Africa might have found its way North to the Nile Valley through trade with ancient berbers and other Saharan people in the predynastic and pre pottery cultures on the Nile. Iron Metallurgy in Sub-Saharan Africa (excluding Nubia, Kush and The Horn of Africa) may have been discovered independently also but its not conclusive yet but if the consensus agrees we can add it to that list. We as Black People descended from Enslaved Africans have A LOT to be proud of. I don't need pyramids or hieroglyphics. I wouldn't claim a group of people who had sex with goats and their full siblings. Modern Egyptians can have that and they are the closest to them genetically. I'm good.
For more people like you, please. Egypt can be debatable at some specific points, but the later claims... Jews, Native Americans, Vikings. It's becoming real cringey.
@@gianperezz2928 Ancient Egyptians used to have intercourse with goats and practiced incest with their daughters. We Black People over here are NOT Descended from that. West Africans didn't do no craziness like that. They can have "Kemet"
I'm glad that you pointed this out, because based on some of the comments here, it's like some people believe more black folk believe in this type of stuff in their highly racist understanding of us. In fact, this type of problem is why black history should be in schools and in much more depth. But too many people in the States would cry about making white kids feel bad or say it's "woke" which the use of the term in this video's title kinda pisses me off due to it's actual history.
Thank you. So many bad ass ancient Sub-Saharan African kings It's ridiculous. Sub-Saharan Africa is spattered with some of the most fierce warrior tribes. I wish more of your people knew of the tribes and culture of your people.
@@jamescorvus6709 ya west africans just cannabalized each other when not selling their own people then blaming whoever is nearest to them... why do you think their is only black skin and brown eyes in west africa? inbreeding .... west africa wouldn't even have a bicycle if it wasn't for europeans.. let alone the oil refineries trains cars and electricity the europeans brought you.. yet you still compalain... your kings sold your people, then used that money to send their own kids to schools in Europe.. Timbuktu was made by Arabs and egypt was made by Sumerians... literally look at the Stella of the first pharo... he uses Sumerians stamps... not of africa at all.../ Egyptians gave their secrets to the romans and greeks who were more their allies then africans
@@flubnub266 I'm sorry but t he museum has a right to put what ever they want in the exhibit. Do what are they gone pan nas Beyonce and Rihanna and earth wind and fire for album covers that are 20 30 and 40 years old???
@@devanshepard9118 Having the right to do something doesn't make it the right thing to do. Also, I fail to see what a few music albums have to do with attempting to literally rewrite history and culture with lies?
@@flubnub266 having the right means the government should not punish you for your views even if they disagree. From what i seen the museuem is not saying those artist are descendents of the egyptians but that they were inspired by it. so I am asking whats next egypt is going to ban the artist from ever coming to egypt???
Does this mean I can claim any european heritage I want, even though I'm very much judt scandinavian? PIZZA PIZZA, HON HON HON, LEDERHOZEN INNIT! *Dipps a baguette in tsatsiki and fights a bull*
@@Mikelaxo How could people of the African diaspora appropriate a culture that started with indigenous Africans who come from within Africa. Make that make sense please?
Herodotus (c. 484-425 BCE): Often called the "Father of History," Herodotus visited Egypt and described the Egyptians as having "black skin and woolly hair." In his work "Histories," he wrote about their physical appearance and compared them to the Colchians, Ethiopians, and Indians. Diodorus Siculus (c. 90-30 BCE): A Greek historian who wrote "Bibliotheca Historica," he noted that the Ethiopians (which included Egyptians in some contexts) believed that they were the origin of all human civilization, and that Egyptians were a colony of Ethiopians. Strabo (c. 64 BCE-24 CE): A Greek geographer, philosopher, and historian, Strabo mentioned in his "Geography" that the Egyptians were similar in appearance to the people of Ethiopia. Ammianus Marcellinus (c. 330-400 CE): A Roman historian, Ammianus described the Egyptians as "mostly brown or black with a skinny and desiccated look."
I feel like this could have been a very interesting exhibit, if it was in an art or culture museum. Ancient Egypt has had an undeniable influence on African American music and culture, and an exhibit exploring that could display some interesting stuff. They could have made a point to include more Egyptian reactions to appropriation, and maybe something about the history of black diaspora identifying with Egyptians instead of west Africans. It really had potential, but man did this museum flub it.
The whole debate is dumb imo. Egypt has and always has been a diverse land. The further south you go, the darker the peoples skin becomes. An Egyptian from Aswan is a lot darker than an Egyptian from Cairo. As such, the skin colour of Egyptians would vary wildly, with the skin colour of pharaohs likely altering dynasty to dynasty.
The Egyptian from aswan is dark due to them being from Sudanese nubian origins. Up on till now, Egyptians are very accepting of their black sudan nubians as Egyptians, when tney are not originally. The islamic faith helped blur the racial lines in the region. The Westerners want to start a ethnic tensions in the region.
@@enlightenlife2840 The original Egyptians come from within Africa, not the west Asia or Middle East. Those who came from those regions are foreigners to African lands. The original kemetians are Africans with East Africans origins.
Egypt doesn’t play that white-guilt woke western political game. The ban put on that museum by the Egyptian Ministry of Antiquities is a win for the Egyptian people, the true descendants of Ancient Egypt. #remenkhēmi
this museum is probably funded by the eu therefore all eu nations should be sued into returning egyptian artifacts for misrepresenting and potentially vandalizing them.
There's misconception about that, these artifacts were by large not stolen; the Egyptians in the 19th and early 20th century didn't give a shit about the antiquities, in many cases they destroyed them. If anything, European scientists SAVED a lot of these artifacts. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater because of a fad strain of marxism that's going to die out in a couple years and which everybody hates.
lol I'm really glad you ended up finding a niche which wasn't ragebait like this. you sound *so* much happier / more passionate in the iceberg stuff vs here
The first original Arabs were Black. All civilizations began as melanated people and this is what they don’t want us to know. Because it destroys there whole Superiority theory. They went as far as to labels us as inferior monkeys. But if you shave the hairs off of a monkey it’s pink and in closer proximity to white. With thin lips and goats hair like all other races have. The Neanderthal gene is not found in pure Africans because they are the Replica of the God gene. And we know that they have hated us for that reason alone. The original people that God created was Black every other race of people came from us. Without Black peoples they would not even exist. Two white couples cannot produce a melanated child but two black people can and that’s been scientifically proven again Black people are the prototype of every race of people.
Saying egypt was black because they're a part of Africa is like saying an Alaskan and a Mexican are the same because they're from the same continent. Like no... that's not how that works. Native Egyptian have every right to be livid about this claim like how black people get mad when white people say "we all come from africa"
No, they call Ancient Egyptians Black due to the anxient artwork, and historical descriptons of the people matching what would be considered "Black", by modern standards. Ask someone asks about Cleopatra ethnicity, they immediately point to art and written descriptions. Yet when it comes to the ethnicity of Ramses II, then the goalposts are moved.
Blackocentrists photoshop many of their Egyptian pictures. They darken skin on wall paintings and have widened and blackified features on offical photos of statue busts!
@@juamu1132 Y’all are the original “we wuz kangz”. Who goes to Africa then claims their ancestors built the pyramids yet they get melanoma and cancer from being in the African desert sun within weeks of being there? The black Africans that built the Nile valley civilisations were working topless in nothing but a cotton loincloth in the open African desert in mining, construction & agriculture. Y’all could never dare do that if your lives depended on it 🤣
@@juamu1132 Y’all are the original “we wuz kangz”. Who goes to Africa then claims their ancestors built the pyramids yet they get melanoma and canc*r from being in the African desert sun within weeks of being there? The black Africans that built the Nile valley civilisations were working topless in nothing but a cotton loincloth in the open African desert in mining, construction & agriculture. Y’all could never dare do that if your lives depended on it 🤣
This is a tempest in a teapot. The first dynasty commemorates the union of the two lands ie syria and ethiopia. It started as a miscegenation of two cultures represented by the bee (busy) and the reed (going with the flow). There are several depictions called smai tawi that show the tying together of two lands. Obviously not black vs white just black AND whatever not white color you want. All of what i just stated is easily verifiable by anyone who decides to read, and unfortunately that does not include americanized africans who were not taught how to use the library because of discrimination or use the internet wisely because of affirmative action cancellation. For the other side of the argument ancient Egypt ended with the greco-roman invasion. Without them we would have no understanding or even access. But no arab ever was involved in planning or building any of the ancient monuments that exist in Egypt and to claim that the builders were their ancestors is a patent lie and alllows the other side to claim lies as well. Ethiopia, Abbysinia, Yemen, Sheba is not sub saharan africa but it was their technology that built the pyramids. So continue to fight amongst yourselves and leave the scholarship to those who only look for the truth not to prove a point.
*Ancient African Civilizations. The idea that west Africans were divided by the Sahara is stupid when most of West African history was forged in the Sahara.
Thank you sir 🙏 Why can’t Egyptians just be Egyptians? We must be Nubian Greek Ethiopian Assyrian Persian Arab Roman mix. All these other ethnicities get to be their own ethnicities but Egyptians are the only ones that must be something else.
i guess i unserstand why Egyptians wouldn't be cool with this especially bc Nubia was considered to be a completely different place and a rival civilization
Can we please base history solely off archeological and DNA evidence please, history is important, it’s not supposed to turn into stupid Twitter drama.
Being anti woke is the new trick to farm youtube clicks from the dummies that feel threatened by anything that barely deviates from their narrow world view.
I love how all these Afrocentric people try to claim Egyptian history and culture like there aren't actual Egyptians still around in actual Egypt today to tell them to fuck off and that they're wrong. Hilarious.
Its so stupid bruh it makes no sense for them to claim egypt with no evidence while also never mentioning nubia which is what they should be talkin about
Our descendants are going to look back on this time with a sense of awe at how ridiculous insanity seeped into every facit of society and destroyed a large part of human civilization and history, remember that.
The Qustul Incense Burner is a significant artifact that provides insight into the relationship between the Nubian and Egyptian civilizations. Here’s what we know about it: The Qustul Incense Burner is distinctively Nubian in form, carved in the technique of Nubian rock art, and decorated on the rim with typical Nubian designs1. It was found in the tomb of a Nubian ruler at Qustul and incorporates images associated with Egyptian pharaohs: a procession of sacred boats, the White Crown of Upper Egypt, a falcon deity, and the palace facade called a serekh1. The scenes depicted on the Qustul Incense Burner have excited considerable interest and discussion - why would seemingly Egyptian symbols have been used in Nubia?1 One interpretation is that Nubian A-Group rulers and early Egyptian pharaohs used related royal symbols1. Similarities in rock art of A-Group Nubia and Upper Egypt support this position1. Another view suggests that the decoration was carved by Nubians in imitation of Egyptian art and rituals1. In this perspective, A-Group Nubian rulers would have emulated the symbols of Egyptian pharaohs, whose prestige and power were evident
Ironically, ancient Egypt was likely genetically diverse and any attempt to classify them as "black" or "white" is wrong. Egyptians ranged in skin color depending on location (according to the best evidence I could find). Claiming ancient Egyptians were black is oversimplifying the complexities of the nations genetic history.
M. Constantine de Volney, Travels through Syria and Egypt in the Years 1783, 1784, and 1785 (London: 1787), p. 80-83 Just think, "that this race of Black men, today our slave and the object of our scorn, is the very race to which we owe our arts, sciences, and even the use of speech! Just imagine, finally, that it is in the midst of people who call themselves the greatest friends of liberty and humanity that one has approved the most barbarous slavery, and questioned whether Black men have the same kind of intelligence as whites!
The fact that the Egyptians had to kick our Dutch archaeologists out of the dig site because these idiots tried to wokeify Egypt is just embarrassing! This museum should either return all the artifacts or give them to someone more deserving. What a disgrace
So incredibly disappointed that you made this video. Literally all the museum did was see what influence Egypt had/has on modern culture, that's it. A perfectly fine perspective to have an exhibition about, the only people who had a problem with it were ultra nationalistic Egyptians and alt-right culture warriors, a group you decidedly do NOT want to be a part of, yet now you are. I always felt bad for the intelligent people living in the US, but now I see even the smart ones are willing participant in the culture wars. I guess y'all did deserve Trump.
I understand what the museum is doing but it`s still cultural appropriation which is apparently `illegal` for non blacks to do. I realise that `whitewashing was a common thing in art/tv and films in the past and is now rightly condemned. The trouble is the same people condemning whitewashing seem to think blackwashing is justified. So it`s not that it is right but that it is revenge.
thats a great question and actually the core of the issue. those "lol comments" have no clue. i think it's pride and related to more recent history of egypt btu im not familiar with this. their national identity really draws on ancient history. imagine a chinese guy in peking declared jesus was not a gun obsessed white american but asian and peolpe agreed with him. us conservatives would collectively pop brain anheurysms...
Nothing screams "My analysis is serious and intellectually rigorous!" quite like bitching about "woke" in the title 🙄 Addendum: Points to you for also referencing the ridiculousness of Eurocentric views of Egypt, which it seems a lot of other commenters here don't consider problematic.
I don't like the Hotep crap because it glosses over Our ACTUAL History in West and Central Africa, but to be honest Egyptians don't like Black People. Just go ask any African from the Continent and especially in Egypt how they are viewed and treated. Egypt NEVER put up this kind of fight when nazis and other fringe white nationalists claimed Egypt was "white" using the "Dynastic Race Hypothesis". This whole thing is pointless since the Ancient Greeks, people in the West have always tried to claim Egypt for themselves. It will probably never end but the people there today ARE the people from the predynastic up to the modern day because DNA is a proven science.
The Qustul Cemetery and the Qustul Incense Burner are indeed older than the Egyptian civilization. This suggests that the Nubians did not copy from the Egyptians, but rather, it was the other way around. The Qustul Incense Burner, found in a royal tomb at the Qustul Cemetery, is one of the earliest pieces of evidence for the use of royal iconography, predating similar symbols in Egypt. This has led some scholars to suggest that it was the Nubians who influenced the Egyptians, rather than the other way around.
I can’t tell if this is using woke in an ironic way or the braindead way, I’m halfway through the video and I don’t even know whose side he’s on I was wanting to look through this channel more it seemed cool but now that I know dude is a right wing grifter who thinks everything is an “aGeNdA” or a conspiracy put a bad taste in my mouth
Not European, Not Nubian, Kushite or other African, Not Mediterranean, and of course Not Arab (Which most modern inhabitants of Egypt are today), but Egyptians! Heck Egyptians most likely interbred with all of the above, but the core original peoples were most likely their own thing, an ancient race. With the discovery of the Richat structure as the best potential site of Atlantis during the time when the Sahara was lush and green, does it not make sense that ancient Egyptians are the ancestors of the few Atlantians that escaped the Younger Drias Catastrophe in a mass exodus eastward to Egypt? Now I'm getting into theory, but the facts are Egyptians are their own thing as far as history shows.
The fact that I'm going to study archaeology in this climate worries me. I love history and archaeology with heart and soul, and for the institution I will trust my education to displaying these kinds of exhibitions makes me think about what they will teach me when I enroll in their curriculum. Maybe I should have picked something more practical with my education, at least then I can actually earn money with what I learn.
Remember when the Nazis would spend years conducting archeological expeditions to prove that ancient greek, roman, and European history was built by the aryans?
Saying that it’s “Afrocentric” to call Egypt an African civilization is like saying it’s “Eurocentric” to say that Greece was a European civilization. You said that in your video that the racial terms “black” and “white” are made up and thus shouldn’t be used to describe an ancient population of people. Yet, you use the black term to describe a region of Africa you call “Black Africa,” which is a made up term itself. 🤔 This logical inconsistency is what I often find in people who really don’t know what they’re talking about. For example, you took umbrage with the term “Kemet” being used at this Dutch exhibit, but are fine with the term “Egypt” which is a foreign name for that land. Why not use the term the ACTUAL Kemites used regardless of what some people who use that term believe? Another inconsistency. Whether people like it or not, the ancient Kemites were indigenous Africans who created one of the greatest civilizations in human history. If that fact anlone upsets you , then you have no business studying and/or disseminating information about ancient Egypt.
Please stfu, ancient egyptians are mostly the descendants of the early levantine farmers (aka eurasian origin). Go look for history elsewhere, North African are not black and weren't in the past either (thankfully we have ancient dna now :p).
@@athtarasterios9695no they aren't. Those farmers got slaughtered, and were forced to assimilate with the indigenous Nile valley Africans. This is portrayed in Narmers Pallet. The Africans are clearly on his side, while they slaughter middle eastern looking people.
Considering Afrocentrists have hijacked the termin Kemet for themselves as they have with the entire ancient culture, it is understandable to see it in a skeptical light, so your attempt at sounding oh so nuanced falls flat right then and there, especially considering you end your comment with the term "ancient Egypt" yourself.
Even though racism in the Morden definition is not present in Egypt,the Egyptians distinguished themselves from the rest of the African continental as fair skinned and called their neighbours the nubians as black or dark skinned and you may argue back by saying khemet means black soil which refers to the soil not the people,if you check our the 25th dynasty which was culturaly mostly Egyptian were still referred to as of nubian descent and different skin colour to the people.in conclusion Egypt has had nearly 32 dynasties and was ruled by many different cultures after the New Kingdom because it is in the edges of 2 different continent migration is more common.
Indeed, there is evidence suggesting that the Nubian monarchy predates the ancient Egyptian civilization. The region of Lower Nubia, specifically Qustul (modern-day Aswan), is believed to be the origin of the earliest Pharaohnic Monarchy in the Nile Valley1. Excavations have shown that the White Crown, later used by Upper Egypt, originated from Qustul about 1,000 years before it was used in Egypt1. The Nubian civilization had its own rich culture that powerfully influenced the land of the pharaohs2. They were diverse peoples with their own beliefs and customs2. Far from being a boring backwater to Egypt, the Nubians exchanged cultural ideas with their neighbors, even setting fashion trends for kings like Tutankhamun2. Nubia was home to some of Africa’s earliest kingdoms3. Known for rich deposits of gold, Nubia was also the gateway through which luxury products like incense, ivory, and ebony traveled from their source in sub-Saharan Africa to the civilizations of Egypt and the Mediterranean3. Modern researchers and writers hold differing views on the ancient roots of the Nubians4. However, ample evidence supports the notion that the Nubian civilization predates the ancient Egyptian civilization4. Swiss archaeologist Charles Bonnet spent decades excavating the lands surrounding the southern Nile and found evidence of a civilization grown rich from trade and abundant with fields and livestock5. This kingdom was distinct from Egypt with its own material culture and traditions
What I really dont get is this: If they wanted to have a more black centric exhibition, why not do one about the nubians?
Egypt/Kemet came from Nubia/Kush. All the secrets, all the art work, and all the historical facts and documents are hidden away and buried in private collections, museums, institutions, and facilities of the deep state, shadow government, nazi mob kartel. There's a reason they're suppressing the truth. Mind control. It's part of the de-Blacking of history .
Or literally anything from Africa that isn't Egypt.
Caz Racist Eurocentric white supremacist and the Arab invaders have stolen and assumed the identity of an ancient African culture and we are just tryin to get it back. Its obvious the Nubians were black and the Egyptians were related to them.
@@kurnugiakurn3567 Egypt was divided from the rest of Africa by a white German man in the 1800s think about that
@@arielslack7015 Lol no it wasn't, ancient Egypt had trade connections to Kush and Kingdoms in Abyssinia and that's basically it. Egypt has no cultural or religious history shared with the majority of the continent and was more deeply tied into the Mediterranean trade system.
I'd love to be a fly on the wall when the archaeologists find out why they can't go back to the site.
You are just that a "fly"!-
Yep! Me too!
They will be back!!! The Arab Republic of Egypt., can use all the Euro's it can get
Disrespecting Egyptian culture, heritage! The gull to tell the Egyptian 's That primarily the Black's of North western Africa were decendants of thier people. , as you see they put them Straight! Just because Michael Jackson made a video of American blacks portraying Egyptian's you believe they are you!! 😆
@@George-zd6rb Yes!!! Michael Jackson made a video portraying
American blacks as Ancient Egyptians is correct!! Many of them
have the 1b1a,, V-E38. Y chromosomes that is Connected to Ramses III ..Their's is a bases in
Scientific Fact!!!!
I like how these Afrocentrists look at Egypt and their argument is 'theyre surrounded by black countries' but don't look at North African countries like Libya, Algeria and Morocco that occupies the same general latitude as Egypt. And they harp on the fact that Egypt borders Sudan but left out that it also neighbours Saudi Arabia and Jordan.
And another one is 'but Egyptians were okay with white people actors' like no they weren't. They weren't happy about it but the internet didn't exist so it's heard about less.
Kemet does not border Saudi Arabia. It's split. Secondly, even the Kemites themselves claimed they originated in upper Kemet. The originators of the culture, followed the Nile north, then annexed and killed then absorbed the Levantines in the Delta. This is shown on Narmers pallet.
Of course since Saudi doesn't exist back then. It's Assyria.
egyptians resemble white people more than black people, would you say lebanese are black? no.
@@WolfsinsEgyptians = natufians = blond and blue eyes
@@monsieurlemon Egyptians definitely don’t resemble white people. At least not the original ones. We clearly see Roman’s and Greeks towards the end of the dynasties. We know they were not the original Egyptians.
Gosh, what a tangled web.
So, in a nutshell, the Dutch Rijksmuseum van Oudheden has put together an exhibition to chime in on the American social issue (and obsession) over race by using ancient Egypt and, in the process, bulldozed over Egypt's sense of national identity and heritage.
This is probably why museums should avoid being sectarian.
I dont understand.. what is wrong with that?
Oh you mean the Arabs that invaded and colonized Egypt in 600AD. Are they still the Arab republic of Egypt.
Obsession !!!! Yes!!! I see the Afrocentrist point of view!!!! They are on a Mission to correct the Fake History of the lies of Anti African scholars and settler colonialist of
the invaders of the African Continent. I hope the obsession continues !!! Into all out war on this
subject. Million of lives have been
lost. Millions of km of Land has
been lost ..Those whom memorize
those ancestors that were murdered
by settler colonialist forces,ARE NOT
FORGETTING!!! The Afrocentrist say
The African Continent is in Their
DNA!!!!
Arab Republic of Egypt is not Ancient Kemet Indigenous African River Nile Valley Civilization!!!!
Museum Are Museum!!!! Avoid NOTHING!!!
Good that the egyptians are defending themselves!
Kicked Kevin harts little black ass OUT!
And you think Kevin Hart gives a fuck lol his rich and there fighting a loosing Battle I present to you the mummy of Shemai ruclips.net/video/qZMGpJCT2xk/видео.html
And their loosing the war Rewind to 600AD the Arab invasion one of the last invaders of Kemet.
There's a reason why this country is called the Arab republic of Egypt
@@katakyni1829 In 1900, no Egyptians called themselves Arabs. Syrian, Palestinian, and Lebanese intellectuals were begging Egyptians to call themselves Arabs, and they refused up to the 1930s. Then, they decided it could be a good political idea since they were all Muslims and spoke Arabic, and since Egypt had the biggest population, they could be the leaders. It was about politics. It was Nasser's idea and those who followed him. Pharaohnism is making a come back and fewer and fewer are viewing themselves as Arabs again.
Afrocentrism and Egypt is literally no different than the Nazi’s ideology about Ancient Greeks and Romans being Germanic. What they refuse to believe is that those Greeks and Romans clearly viewed the peoples to the north of them as Barbarians and the Ancient Egyptians saw the people south of their borders as barbarians as well which is something the Afrocentrists also refuse to believe.
This exactly!!!!!!
While I understand what youre trying to say (although not entirely agreeing) Your metaphor and OP's in the video about Finns and Brits kinda falls through, because all groups presented are all still white.
They didn't think that. You have no idea what you're talking about. Stop getting your history from Hollywood.
It is different though. It's socially accepted.
well at least they were on the same continent
ill let it slide ur point though
I visited the exhibition a few days ago and it was informed by Afrocentrism. Among other things, they have a little text explaining how, when Frank Ocean talks about black Cleopatra in his 2012 song Pyramids, he does not talk about the colour of her skin, but about her black identity! What bothered me the most was the complete lack of the Egyptian perspective, even for the sake of dialogue. I get that it was about Egypt in jazz and hip-hop but surely there must be Egyptian jazz and hip-hop artists inspired by their own past, and not just US musicians? I am not Egyptian, but I found it appropriative and not engaging in a dialogue with afrocentric theories but only presenting them as the way we should be seeing Egypt: essentially replacing the eurocentric lens with an afrocentric one, and celebrating all those US African-American artists who claim Egypt for their own.
i wonder who came up with the idea for that exhibition. and why the director defends it without proper argumentation.
@@loc1123 The idea came to them a few years ago, because hip-hop is one of the most popular music genres in all of Europe right now (esp. in northern Europe and Scandinavia) and they were trying to connect with a younger audience. As for the director, it is his job to defend it.... It is their bad luck that the exhibition opened now and not three or four years ago, as it had been the original plan.
If there is Egyptian jazz and hip hop than I as an black Americans am offended by them appropriating my culture
@trevormcdonald385 that 's different!
mahel2002 I know those who's family records go back to the founding of the USA..1776.Their connection with Natives of Land was 0%!!!
Total embarrassment for these people
Are any of them Credible in the study of Crain meteoric Analysis, DNA studies, or Archaeology without bias.
@@demouchetter are any of the Afrocentrics credible in the study of Crain meteoric Analysis, DNA studies, or Archaeology without bias.
@@cocopus yes I will believe an African Scholar before any other Lying Egyptologist .
@@cocopusActually, yes.
@@cocopus Yup 👍🏿
The Museum is so pathetic. They should pull out the exhibition of they want the digging permit back.
Arab Republic of Egypt 🇪🇬 1953-present can't handle the truth
After all this time lying to themselves!!! They are not
Ancient Kemet Indigenous River Nile Vally Civilization. They are not E1b1a origin E-V38 DNA...haplogroup found
In the body of Ramses III. My source ...23 and Me Genomic and Biotechnology Company.,,South San Francisco California..States it's origin is Northeast Africa, east Africa
Across to Senegal, Niger, Nigeria Chad, and Sudan,Eritrea, Djibouti,all
Across the Sahel..Ethiopia and Somalia. And far south As South
Africa.
Only reason there loosing it is because they are digging up black mummies.
Ancient Kemet Indigenous African River Nile Valley Civilization..The Museum is CORRECT!!
Why dig ???It Is Arab Republic of Egypt 🇪🇬 Culture and History to discover their OWN History ?
We will not allow foreigners to violent our Royals Graves!!
Egypt:Kemet Hop Hip Soul Jazz and Funk!!!!!
Egypt has the right to determine their past, present and future. The Dutch have no business to stick their noses in there.
Asiaitic Muslims (Levantines) are not the native population lf Egypt.
And blacks
@@blenderbanana Actually, according to a study of New Kingdom mummies, they had a lot of ancient Near Eastern ancestry, so the Levantine ancestry is from New Stone Age Levantines and Fertile Crescent, not recent people. They are Muslims because they were converted through pressure. Before that, they were Christians.
@@QUINTUSMAXIMUS I don't doubt that there was congress between the elite. There always is. But to describe the proletariat population as Levantine is quite the contortion.
It would be like describing ancient Algerians as Vandal in origin, due to their conquest in the 5th century. They were certainly "familiar"(👌👈) with the Roman Community, but North Africans were not Vandals.
@@blenderbanana Copts exist too
But that’s inconvenient to your narrative 😂
Why would a country let a Museum like that hold their treasures? Good thing Egypt revoked their permission. There're others qualified for the job.
There would be no Egyptology without Europeans.
I agree that if they keep this Cultural Marxist b.s up they don’t deserve it.
This is blatant theft yet people are being put in jail for torrenting music. The rules are made by the riches.
This museum shaped my childhood, and partly sparked my love for Ancient Egypt. I find this turn of events very tragic, and it saddens me deeply that the Rijksmuseum of Oudheden will not be a part anymore of the archeology done in Saqqarra.
Blame nationalism I guess. I did something no one in this comment section did and went to look something very important up: does the museum offer other exhibits about ancient egypt so being there means you will actually come away with a decent understanding? And it does.
That turns the narrative on its head and makes Egypt's actions looks as unreasonable as they are. The afrocentric part also screams lowkey racism. They really should have stuck with the narrative of Hollywood elites reducing ancient egypt to a wardrobe option. Which isn't untrue. It's a travesty a hollywood actor with no historical background was allowed to make a history documentary and then cite grandma as a source when she turned it into fucking fanfiction. But at least she is upfront about shoddy sources, making a debunk easy.
What they really don’t like is the truth being told and that’s the truth. If they want to claim the Roman’s time in Egypt fine if you want claim all the invaders time in Egypt fine but when you go back to it’s beginning middle and really it’s end those people were Black Africans it’s a reason they will
Not allow the dna testing by an independent party it’s a resson why they will only release dna from the Roman times funny thing is that doesn’t even tie those Arabs to the land and people that goes right over bigots heads! Not one mummy has been tied to those Arabs not one, but Robert Ross dna 🧬 linked him to his ancient ancestor Pharaoh Ramses lll and he is guess what African American now tell some more lies! The farther you go back the Blacker the people are!
This Egypt worship by black Americans - all of whom were West African - is like an Argentine claiming to be an ancient Viking.
You know NOTHING about Black Americans °°Too many American movies!!! No research..Lazy!!!!
it's so bizzare !!
Black Americans are related to Ancient Kemet Civilization of the River Nile Valley Civilization that extend to central Africa.DNA E-V38 and E1b1a
Is the haplogroup.. Ramses lll belong .According to 23 and Me ..;a personal Genomics and Biotechnology Company based in South San Francisco
California. E1b1a haplogroup and E-V38 DNA groups are mainly found today in Northeast Africa,Saharan region,The Sahel. West Africa to East Africa.For example from Senegal to Somalia,Sudan and Ethiopia. Mines is not the complete list of countries. I got addition information as a scientific researcher. Additional according to 23 and Me one of the most famous person whom have E1b1a DNA. Is Mr Nelson Mandela former President of South Africa,belongs to Haplogroup E1b1a(Y-DNA)(also known as E-M2) typical of Bantu peoples.
@@mmi5833 no you are not related to my country
@@eveadel1861Yes I am not an indigenous African.!!!! I don't have the hapologroup E1b1a ,E-V38 DNA i am a History and Scientific Researcher!!! I don't know your country??? What is it exactly?????
The museum deserves being banned for allowing an Afrocentric attack on Egyptians. It's a load of historical revisionism. These people are of West and Central African heritage, and their ancestors had no clue that Egypt existed long ago as they were so far away from Egypt. As one scholar said, trying to make Egypt black is about a kind of therapy. If anyone looks at a map of Egypt, they will see it's attached to the Levant, so it's natural they had ancient ancestry from the Levant, so they were most definitely mixed.
I don't believe it to be "an attack". It's misguided assumptions..lack of communication between the museum, the Egyptian people and the American entertainer, if they wanted to include the entertainers at all. I think it shows on the positive side, the respect that African Americans have for the Egyptian culture.
QUINT - CORRECT and VERY observant of you. Finally Some with. A brain and logic .....who looks up maps.
What exactly was revised it’s been proven time and again the Ancient indigenous peoples of Egypt were a Black African Nile Valley Civilization they are still digging up Mummies only to Find out they were Black Shemai the Latest one. Lived during the first intermediate period and was part of the ruling Class So it’s not revisionist history it’s based on factual History.
So they should be banned because they told the truth?
@@The_Truth- It isn't the truth. DNA proved you wrong..cope!
If this isn't cultural appropriation, I don't know what is.
they cry over braids , but stealing history is fine to them
One of the main tenets of the Woke/SJW movement is racism (DEI also falls under this).
A bunch of white, liberal neets who never leave their parents' homes have been allowed too much influence on Western society, and this kind of bs is one of the effects.
The brain rot is unreal.
@@freeee8853 yes ancient Egyptians were very diverse in skin tones just like today's Egyptians
Groypers everywhere
Ancient Egyptian people were not Arabs
Can we please just stick to facts when it comes to history. People should not be shoving personal belief in history and claiming it as fact, and I mentioned this in a video of my own.
As a fan of Egyptian history, I feel bad for the Egyptian people whose history is being lost.
its not lost, just distorted by lunatics.
I feel bad for them too, since they called their Land Kemet and not Egypt - and they also never spoke arabic. You seem to be indoctrinated by an old eurocentric narrative.. It's okay though - I'll give you a lesson : The ancient civilizations in the land which is now called Egypt - were not the same people that inhabit the lands now. The dynasties have been usurped and the current occupyer is trying to silence and censor the narrative on its history.
It’s in our DNA what part of DNA is not understood.
@@demouchetter it isnt.
@@OrthoKarter whatever dude Egypt is on the Continent of Africa and it’s originators Were and is Black Africans and if you don’t think so your only lying to yourself.
replace "woke" with afrocentric. i think thats more accurate.
i like the idea of showing modern reception of antiquities. reception is something that is usually skimmed over in museology. however it needs to be done with a healthy and easy to understand discussion and reflection. it seems the museum forgot that part... and now it looks like they even side with afrocentrism.
poor archaeologists who got kicked out because of their shitty museum.
very big oof.
I hate Afrocentrist too. They don't see me as the God, I think I am!!
I love Afrocentrism!!! And Netflix Cleopatra !!!!!
Is best to be WOKE...that be sleep around your enemies!!!
@@mmi5833 well that sounds like an informed and factbased opinion...
@@mmi5833 me too!!!!
As a dutch person, I'm appalled by the clear political agenda driving this exhibition, but even more so by the unbelievable, childish stubbornness of the museum director even when confronted by real (and completely justified) repercussions.
For a normal person this kind of discourse is ridiculous enough, but for a prominent member of the scientific community it's inexcusable. Shame on you, Wim Weijland!
edit:spelling
Second that. And what exactly does ancient Egypt have to do with modern singers??? This kind of exhibitions belong in an art museum, not in a history museum!
Ancient Egypt had a generally diverse population (and i don't mean that in the woke definition). there were mercenaries from every corner of the Mediterranean and yes Sudan who settled in the region and Egypt had a significant import of slave labor which always introduces genetic admixture from neighboring peoples. *Generally* most of their ancestry is closely related to the Levant, which makes sense considering how much they interacted with the Phoenician and Jewish civilizations. claiming cleopatra as African is pretty apocryphal considering we have very explicit records of her Greek genealogy and her appearance. there are plenty of African Civilizations that they could simp for but they choose Egypt because it's the one everyone knows about instead of investing the time and effort to explore their own heritage in Africa which has plenty of civilizations such as Aksum, the Hausa, and the Ashanti peoples. They choose not to invest the effort in singing their praises and try to piggyback off of Egypts clout.
there are parts of Egyptian history Africans CAN claim but i rarely see this done and most of the time it's Hoteps who paint a broad stroke across its entire 6,000 years of history instead of choosing to look at the Nubian dynasty and their accomplishments and push those into popular culture so modern African Americans have something to look towards for their heritage other than slavery. I really understand the impulse to do these things I'm Native American myself (Quapaw Tribe) and a lot of native history is straight up destroyed and contorted by colonization. I hope they can find and explore their own history and make sure its known in popular and black culture. I wish them the best and hope they do their due diligence.
Egypt as a Nation deserves to have a say in how their artifacts and history are portrayed and interpreted. those artifacts not found in shipwrecks or in other lands are up for grabs but Egypt themselves as well as any other African nation should be able to dictate how their history should be presented and have full control over the artifacts reclaimed from their countries and cultures. which do have a rich and immense cultural legacy and aesthetic i hope future black artists embrace.
10/10 comment
You really made that up. Predynastic Egyptians (El Badari, Naqada I & II) have no affinity with the Levant but strong affinities with southern populations (Kemp, Ehret). In fact, the Ancient Egyptians claimed to be from Punt which was located in Ethiopia (DNA tests of mummified baboons). HLA studies cluster modern Greeks with BLACK AFRICAN populations because they carry subsaharan genes from a 5,000 years old admixture. Plus most Greek men carry the Egypto-cushitic haplogroup EV13.
It matches with the story of the Pelasgians/Danaids who arrived from Egypt.
And what is the woke definition of “diverse” as opposed to the non-woke definition?
Anyone who needs proof that their distant, distant ancestors were badass or wtfever have severe self-esteem issues.
Actual Desk slamming and voice cracking from rage. Yikes.
Glad you don’t frame any other videos (to my knowledge) like the title because I fell like complaining about “wokeness” will attract the wrong crowd to your videos
Agreed
Idk why this whole "race" debate makes up some peoples entire personality, like who actually cares, the Ancient Egyptians are exactly that, they are ancient, and actual Egyptians are just as closely related to and Ancient Egyptians than I am my Ancient Greek ancestors, they might as well be their own race of people due to how far back they lived and how gene pools work.
You obviously care.
So black Archimedes is cool?
Bro, Our Ancestors come from West and Central Africa. Its not hard to figure out. VERY FEW Black People believe this "Black Egypt" thing is in certain communities within Black People in the United States. The reason why some people claim this "Black Egypt" is because we live in a western European culture over here in the United States and Egypt is part of Western history. So it was a place to make us adjacent to history ("Western" History) since Our Ancestors were told we had no history or culture in West and Central Africa by history books.
It was treated as if we had no history before the Transatlantic Slave Trade and that caused people back in the day like Yosef Ben Jochanan and John Henrike Clarke and other, who went to segregated schools as children and told they had no history as Black People, saw that Western History includes Egypt as "Pivotal" in the development of Western History along with the Hellenistic World, Rome, and the Levant. Since Egypt is in Africa (geographically but not politically or culturally) they attached themselves to it.
Hip Hop is a culture that is also adjacent in this way to fringe ideas within the Black Community in the United States. Hip Hop is like Punk for Black People (even though the "Punk Sound" was created by three Black brothers back in the very early 70s). Its a rebellion of social norms and institutions that have historically down played Our History and contributions to Western History and the world at large. So Hip Hop clings on to these ideas of "Black Egypt" as a sense of empowerment.
I have a huge problem with "Black Egypt" because it IGNORES Our actual History in West and Central Africa and the many Empires, Kingdoms and Cultures that thrived there INDIGENOUSLY such as the Nok, Dhar Titchitt, Jenno Jenne, Mali, Songhay, Hausa city states, Benin Kingdom, Kingdom of Nri, Ile Ife, Oyo, Wagadou, The Akan City States, Dahomey, Bakongo Kingdom, etc. Our Ancestors in West Africa did achievements as being on of the few places Agriculture and Pottery was independently discovered. And there is evidence that pottery in West Africa might have found its way North to the Nile Valley through trade with ancient berbers and other Saharan people in the predynastic and pre pottery cultures on the Nile. Iron Metallurgy in Sub-Saharan Africa (excluding Nubia, Kush and The Horn of Africa) may have been discovered independently also but its not conclusive yet but if the consensus agrees we can add it to that list.
We as Black People descended from Enslaved Africans have A LOT to be proud of. I don't need pyramids or hieroglyphics. I wouldn't claim a group of people who had sex with goats and their full siblings. Modern Egyptians can have that and they are the closest to them genetically. I'm good.
For more people like you, please.
Egypt can be debatable at some specific points, but the later claims... Jews, Native Americans, Vikings. It's becoming real cringey.
@@gianperezz2928 Ancient Egyptians used to have intercourse with goats and practiced incest with their daughters. We Black People over here are NOT Descended from that. West Africans didn't do no craziness like that. They can have "Kemet"
I'm glad that you pointed this out, because based on some of the comments here, it's like some people believe more black folk believe in this type of stuff in their highly racist understanding of us.
In fact, this type of problem is why black history should be in schools and in much more depth. But too many people in the States would cry about making white kids feel bad or say it's "woke" which the use of the term in this video's title kinda pisses me off due to it's actual history.
Thank you. So many bad ass ancient Sub-Saharan African kings It's ridiculous. Sub-Saharan Africa is spattered with some of the most fierce warrior tribes. I wish more of your people knew of the tribes and culture of your people.
@@jamescorvus6709 ya west africans just cannabalized each other when not selling their own people then blaming whoever is nearest to them... why do you think their is only black skin and brown eyes in west africa? inbreeding .... west africa wouldn't even have a bicycle if it wasn't for europeans.. let alone the oil refineries trains cars and electricity the europeans brought you.. yet you still compalain... your kings sold your people, then used that money to send their own kids to schools in Europe.. Timbuktu was made by Arabs and egypt was made by Sumerians... literally look at the Stella of the first pharo... he uses Sumerians stamps... not of africa at all.../ Egyptians gave their secrets to the romans and greeks who were more their allies then africans
First documentary, now museum. What's next, historical textbook for school?
no next is that white people should surrender their lies about eurocentric history :P. And they should kneel before the phoenix
Yes !!! Books!!! There's A New Sheriff in ..........TOWN!!!!!!!
Some tards are probably doing that already
I know all the history books are lies, they said the pyramids are big coffins, stupid idiots. i knew that was BS when i was 8yrs
More than likely they already writing one
🤷 some folks just like taking stuff that isn't theirs 🤷
People whom take things,that's isn't
Theirs are called posers and thieves !!!!
You mean, white people and the Arabs in Egypt.
That's you it not about you!!Arab!!!!
Those inherent of Colonial settlers of AFRICA Northern Coast..Are not related Ancient Kemet Indigenous African River Nile Valley Civilization.
European settlers of Canada, USA are not Indigenous Native Nations!!!
I love that Egypt is standing against cultural appropriation
so are they going to ban beyonce and rihanna and eath wind and fire next??? Thats usually where all this leads
For once, the use of this term is actually correct. An entire culture is literally being taken away from its people.
@@flubnub266 I'm sorry but t he museum has a right to put what ever they want in the exhibit. Do what are they gone pan nas Beyonce and Rihanna and earth wind and fire for album covers that are 20 30 and 40 years old???
@@devanshepard9118 Having the right to do something doesn't make it the right thing to do. Also, I fail to see what a few music albums have to do with attempting to literally rewrite history and culture with lies?
@@flubnub266 having the right means the government should not punish you for your views even if they disagree. From what i seen the museuem is not saying those artist are descendents of the egyptians but that they were inspired by it. so I am asking whats next egypt is going to ban the artist from ever coming to egypt???
Does this mean I can claim any european heritage I want, even though I'm very much judt scandinavian? PIZZA PIZZA, HON HON HON, LEDERHOZEN INNIT! *Dipps a baguette in tsatsiki and fights a bull*
LETS GOOOOOO
egy kettő három!
... Tsatsiki... Baguette... Schnitzel...
I'mma hit the deli. New sandwich soon.
Just a ignorant comment. Yes you can as Scandinavia is a sub region of Northern Europe. Just ignorant, including all the people who gave a thumbs up.
These are the same peole who cry about "cultural appropriation"
@@Mikelaxo How could people of the African diaspora appropriate a culture that started with indigenous Africans who come from within Africa. Make that make sense please?
Feel like the ppl who claim egypt are also the type who freak out over others "straling black culture"
To think that museum holds the oldest identified statue of a pharaoh
@@thatfirstone no im not this museum has the statue of Nynetjer of the II dynasty
I support this Museum in its Endeavor!!!!!!!
@@mmi5833 not my problem
@@imperiumbrasiliae yes it is Your Problem!!!¡ Your ignorance will make you Pay!!!
That goes to show that they know what they are talking about. They know about ancient Egypt's black roots.
Herodotus (c. 484-425 BCE): Often called the "Father of History," Herodotus visited Egypt and described the Egyptians as having "black skin and woolly hair." In his work "Histories," he wrote about their physical appearance and compared them to the Colchians, Ethiopians, and Indians.
Diodorus Siculus (c. 90-30 BCE): A Greek historian who wrote "Bibliotheca Historica," he noted that the Ethiopians (which included Egyptians in some contexts) believed that they were the origin of all human civilization, and that Egyptians were a colony of Ethiopians.
Strabo (c. 64 BCE-24 CE): A Greek geographer, philosopher, and historian, Strabo mentioned in his "Geography" that the Egyptians were similar in appearance to the people of Ethiopia.
Ammianus Marcellinus (c. 330-400 CE): A Roman historian, Ammianus described the Egyptians as "mostly brown or black with a skinny and desiccated look."
Cope
Refute him. @@Jordi_Llopis_i_Torregrosa96
I feel like this could have been a very interesting exhibit, if it was in an art or culture museum. Ancient Egypt has had an undeniable influence on African American music and culture, and an exhibit exploring that could display some interesting stuff. They could have made a point to include more Egyptian reactions to appropriation, and maybe something about the history of black diaspora identifying with Egyptians instead of west Africans. It really had potential, but man did this museum flub it.
The whole debate is dumb imo. Egypt has and always has been a diverse land. The further south you go, the darker the peoples skin becomes. An Egyptian from Aswan is a lot darker than an Egyptian from Cairo. As such, the skin colour of Egyptians would vary wildly, with the skin colour of pharaohs likely altering dynasty to dynasty.
Yeah, absolutely
The Egyptian from aswan is dark due to them being from Sudanese nubian origins. Up on till now, Egyptians are very accepting of their black sudan nubians as Egyptians, when tney are not originally. The islamic faith helped blur the racial lines in the region. The Westerners want to start a ethnic tensions in the region.
Very true
@@enlightenlife2840 The original Egyptians come from within Africa, not the west Asia or Middle East. Those who came from those regions are foreigners to African lands. The original kemetians are Africans with East Africans origins.
@@The_Truth-😂😂😂😂😂you are not of them
Egypt doesn’t play that white-guilt woke western political game. The ban put on that museum by the Egyptian Ministry of Antiquities is a win for the Egyptian people, the true descendants of Ancient Egypt. #remenkhēmi
this museum is probably funded by the eu therefore all eu nations should be sued into returning egyptian artifacts for misrepresenting and potentially vandalizing them.
Sounds like the UK got out just in time.
not like Egypt will ever win
There's misconception about that, these artifacts were by large not stolen; the Egyptians in the 19th and early 20th century didn't give a shit about the antiquities, in many cases they destroyed them. If anything, European scientists SAVED a lot of these artifacts. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater because of a fad strain of marxism that's going to die out in a couple years and which everybody hates.
Love the Title..bring the Ancient Kemet Civilization back to it's Indigenous African Continent. River Nile Valley.
Arabs are invaders alongside Ottoman Turks majority of the Arab Republic of Egypt 🇪🇬 1953-present!
Ty Egypt ... who knew that help against these entitled bullies would come from you?
@Ahmed Sejini and that war became the end of the age of european empires.
@ahmedsejini2401 yeah but today Israel bullies everyone of you nuts alone
This is ACTUAL cultural appropriation lol
lol I'm really glad you ended up finding a niche which wasn't ragebait like this. you sound *so* much happier / more passionate in the iceberg stuff vs here
WE
Wuz
Kangz
And Shit
Jealousy, Hate, Envy, Lust and Greed is the root to all EVIL.
I AM THAT EVIL......!!!!!!
@mmi5833 Yes, you are evil. Please be evil elsewhere
The first original Arabs were Black. All civilizations began as melanated people and this is what they don’t want us to know. Because it destroys there whole Superiority theory. They went as far as to labels us as inferior monkeys. But if you shave the hairs off of a monkey it’s pink and in closer proximity to white. With thin lips and goats hair like all other races have. The Neanderthal gene is not found in pure Africans because they are the Replica of the God gene. And we know that they have hated us for that reason alone. The original people that God created was Black every other race of people came from us. Without Black peoples they would not even exist. Two white couples cannot produce a melanated child but two black people can and that’s been scientifically proven again Black people are the prototype of every race of people.
You basically listed every single archtype of negative driving forces and emotions in people.
Like yeah. Water is wet.
it technically isnt
Saying egypt was black because they're a part of Africa is like saying an Alaskan and a Mexican are the same because they're from the same continent. Like no... that's not how that works. Native Egyptian have every right to be livid about this claim like how black people get mad when white people say "we all come from africa"
No, they call Ancient Egyptians Black due to the anxient artwork, and historical descriptons of the people matching what would be considered "Black", by modern standards. Ask someone asks about Cleopatra ethnicity, they immediately point to art and written descriptions.
Yet when it comes to the ethnicity of Ramses II, then the goalposts are moved.
@@Cakebattered but the is artistic depictions of him, as well as his mummy, and he wasn't black
Blackocentrists photoshop many of their Egyptian pictures. They darken skin on wall paintings and have widened and blackified features on offical photos of statue busts!
WE WUZ SAMURAI!!
Total lies. We don’t need to darken anything much less pictures shown by European Egyptologists
@@kiuk_kiks we wuz kangz yo!!!!!
@@juamu1132
Y’all are the original “we wuz kangz”. Who goes to Africa then claims their ancestors built the pyramids yet they get melanoma and cancer from being in the African desert sun within weeks of being there?
The black Africans that built the Nile valley civilisations were working topless in nothing but a cotton loincloth in the open African desert in mining, construction & agriculture.
Y’all could never dare do that if your lives depended on it 🤣
@@juamu1132
Y’all are the original “we wuz kangz”. Who goes to Africa then claims their ancestors built the pyramids yet they get melanoma and canc*r from being in the African desert sun within weeks of being there?
The black Africans that built the Nile valley civilisations were working topless in nothing but a cotton loincloth in the open African desert in mining, construction & agriculture.
Y’all could never dare do that if your lives depended on it 🤣
This is a tempest in a teapot. The first dynasty commemorates the union of the two lands ie syria and ethiopia. It started as a miscegenation of two cultures represented by the bee (busy) and the reed (going with the flow). There are several depictions called smai tawi that show the tying together of two lands. Obviously not black vs white just black AND whatever not white color you want. All of what i just stated is easily verifiable by anyone who decides to read, and unfortunately that does not include americanized africans who were not taught how to use the library because of discrimination or use the internet wisely because of affirmative action cancellation. For the other side of the argument ancient Egypt ended with the greco-roman invasion. Without them we would have no understanding or even access. But no arab ever was involved in planning or building any of the ancient monuments that exist in Egypt and to claim that the builders were their ancestors is a patent lie and alllows the other side to claim lies as well. Ethiopia, Abbysinia, Yemen, Sheba is not sub saharan africa but it was their technology that built the pyramids. So continue to fight amongst yourselves and leave the scholarship to those who only look for the truth not to prove a point.
loved ur channel already now uve all my respect for speaking out against this on ur channel. lots of appreciation from egypt
Nooo anotther channel doing the "woke mind virus" thing why cant people just be normal.
Would you ever do a video on Ancient Sub-Saharan African civilisations?
Ancient Ethiopia could be interesting.
*Ancient African Civilizations.
The idea that west Africans were divided by the Sahara is stupid when most of West African history was forged in the Sahara.
Where did the ancient Egyptians say they were from? Let them speak for themselves
Thank you sir 🙏 Why can’t Egyptians just be Egyptians? We must be Nubian Greek Ethiopian Assyrian Persian Arab Roman mix. All these other ethnicities get to be their own ethnicities but Egyptians are the only ones that must be something else.
@@demouchetter Which scholars are those because every DNA sample comes back saying you’re wrong.
@@demouchetter no .. not everyone
Just blk Americans
For obvious reasons
Because the Egyptian identity is not connected to the ancient identity
😂😂
@@trevormcdonald385 says you 😂🇪🇬
i guess i unserstand why Egyptians wouldn't be cool with this especially bc Nubia was considered to be a completely different place and a rival civilization
Emperor Mansa Mussa was a white blond dude my grandma said so
In that case it must be true🤷♂️, can't question gram gram
Can we please base history solely off archeological and DNA evidence please, history is important, it’s not supposed to turn into stupid Twitter drama.
you're getting way too worked up over this, chill dude
Yeah kinda disappointed he’s getting so annoyed at some random people on the internet
Being anti woke is the new trick to farm youtube clicks from the dummies that feel threatened by anything that barely deviates from their narrow world view.
Janelle Monae is Afro-Futurism, which is forward-thinking science-fiction influences. She doesn't include any Egyptian imagery, and she's great.
Black washing?
Don’t really care for the initial reactionary framing because the video itself and the sentiment behind it is actually really sound
I think it's to get people to click, the title is very much meme-y imo
Will there also be an exhibit on weeaboos? White people who want to be Asian?
And the exhibit about the japanese people who wanna be Mexican
when "We wuz kangs" didnt end up panning out...
I love how all these Afrocentric people try to claim Egyptian history and culture like there aren't actual Egyptians still around in actual Egypt today to tell them to fuck off and that they're wrong. Hilarious.
They'd say "colonizers" or "genocide" when confronted with that. Infact in this comment section they have 😅😅
Its so stupid bruh it makes no sense for them to claim egypt with no evidence while also never mentioning nubia which is what they should be talkin about
Always love seeing racists being told no, no matter the race
Wokeness never looked more foolish. Oh wait, wokeness looks foolish ALL THE TIME.
Glad you made this video.
My favorite name for ancient Egypt is Tawmery or mer tawy- I remember the name was a combination of mer=beloved and tawy=land.
Our descendants are going to look back on this time with a sense of awe at how ridiculous insanity seeped into every facit of society and destroyed a large part of human civilization and history, remember that.
steal and lies is their only heritage, sad!
The best evidences were carved on walls by Egyptians of the era, and colored accordingly..... They ranged from dark to light !
All black ppl range from light to dark
The Qustul Incense Burner is a significant artifact that provides insight into the relationship between the Nubian and Egyptian civilizations. Here’s what we know about it:
The Qustul Incense Burner is distinctively Nubian in form, carved in the technique of Nubian rock art, and decorated on the rim with typical Nubian designs1.
It was found in the tomb of a Nubian ruler at Qustul and incorporates images associated with Egyptian pharaohs: a procession of sacred boats, the White Crown of Upper Egypt, a falcon deity, and the palace facade called a serekh1.
The scenes depicted on the Qustul Incense Burner have excited considerable interest and discussion - why would seemingly Egyptian symbols have been used in Nubia?1
One interpretation is that Nubian A-Group rulers and early Egyptian pharaohs used related royal symbols1. Similarities in rock art of A-Group Nubia and Upper Egypt support this position1.
Another view suggests that the decoration was carved by Nubians in imitation of Egyptian art and rituals1. In this perspective, A-Group Nubian rulers would have emulated the symbols of Egyptian pharaohs, whose prestige and power were evident
The cult of diversity: "It's ok when we do it."
Ironically, ancient Egypt was likely genetically diverse and any attempt to classify them as "black" or "white" is wrong. Egyptians ranged in skin color depending on location (according to the best evidence I could find). Claiming ancient Egyptians were black is oversimplifying the complexities of the nations genetic history.
Jokes aside, imagine a display about Stonehenge was next to the music video for Brittany Spear's OOPS I DID IT AGAIN. Same thing.
True.
M. Constantine de Volney, Travels through Syria and Egypt in the Years 1783, 1784, and 1785 (London: 1787), p. 80-83
Just think, "that this race of Black men, today our slave and the object of our scorn, is the very race to which we owe our arts, sciences, and even the use of speech! Just imagine, finally, that it is in the midst of people who call themselves the greatest friends of liberty and humanity that one has approved the most barbarous slavery, and questioned whether Black men have the same kind of intelligence as whites!
The fact that the Egyptians had to kick our Dutch archaeologists out of the dig site because these idiots tried to wokeify Egypt is just embarrassing! This museum should either return all the artifacts or give them to someone more deserving. What a disgrace
So incredibly disappointed that you made this video. Literally all the museum did was see what influence Egypt had/has on modern culture, that's it. A perfectly fine perspective to have an exhibition about, the only people who had a problem with it were ultra nationalistic Egyptians and alt-right culture warriors, a group you decidedly do NOT want to be a part of, yet now you are. I always felt bad for the intelligent people living in the US, but now I see even the smart ones are willing participant in the culture wars. I guess y'all did deserve Trump.
Admittedly this old video is a bit harsh, but I still think the implications of the exhibit are inappropriate
I understand what the museum is doing but it`s still cultural appropriation which is apparently `illegal` for non blacks to do. I realise that `whitewashing was a common thing in art/tv and films in the past and is now rightly condemned. The trouble is the same people condemning whitewashing seem to think blackwashing is justified. So it`s not that it is right but that it is revenge.
I dont understand.. why are Egyptians so upset about black Americans highjacking their history?
😂😂
😂
lol
thats a great question and actually the core of the issue. those "lol comments" have no clue.
i think it's pride and related to more recent history of egypt btu im not familiar with this. their national identity really draws on ancient history.
imagine a chinese guy in peking declared jesus was not a gun obsessed white american but asian and peolpe agreed with him. us conservatives would collectively pop brain anheurysms...
you got it right though
I thought this channel looked interesting but then I saw this video title and immediately stopped taking you seriously 😂😂😂
Kangz Kangz Kangz baby! They're coming after the Mali Empire next boys
The video we didn't know we were waiting for.
Where's the second part of the civs vid?
Nothing screams "My analysis is serious and intellectually rigorous!" quite like bitching about "woke" in the title 🙄
Addendum: Points to you for also referencing the ridiculousness of Eurocentric views of Egypt, which it seems a lot of other commenters here don't consider problematic.
9:01 *slams fist on table* 😂
I don't like the Hotep crap because it glosses over Our ACTUAL History in West and Central Africa, but to be honest Egyptians don't like Black People. Just go ask any African from the Continent and especially in Egypt how they are viewed and treated. Egypt NEVER put up this kind of fight when nazis and other fringe white nationalists claimed Egypt was "white" using the "Dynastic Race Hypothesis". This whole thing is pointless since the Ancient Greeks, people in the West have always tried to claim Egypt for themselves. It will probably never end but the people there today ARE the people from the predynastic up to the modern day because DNA is a proven science.
The Qustul Cemetery and the Qustul Incense Burner are indeed older than the Egyptian civilization. This suggests that the Nubians did not copy from the Egyptians, but rather, it was the other way around.
The Qustul Incense Burner, found in a royal tomb at the Qustul Cemetery, is one of the earliest pieces of evidence for the use of royal iconography, predating similar symbols in Egypt. This has led some scholars to suggest that it was the Nubians who influenced the Egyptians, rather than the other way around.
The way you scoff when you encounter the word “Afrofuturism” and ignorantly remark “whatever that is”, comes across as racist.
LOL Even egyptians from Brazilian telenovelas are more accurate than this garbage.
Like... wow.
Congrats Museum of Oudheden, you done goofed up.
Would love a video about the history and beliefs of the alawites of syria sometime if budgets allow for it
I can’t tell if this is using woke in an ironic way or the braindead way, I’m halfway through the video and I don’t even know whose side he’s on
I was wanting to look through this channel more it seemed cool but now that I know dude is a right wing grifter who thinks everything is an “aGeNdA” or a conspiracy put a bad taste in my mouth
Egyptians were brown not nubian
Most of what is said in this video presentation is misleading.
Not European, Not Nubian, Kushite or other African, Not Mediterranean, and of course Not Arab (Which most modern inhabitants of Egypt are today), but Egyptians! Heck Egyptians most likely interbred with all of the above, but the core original peoples were most likely their own thing, an ancient race. With the discovery of the Richat structure as the best potential site of Atlantis during the time when the Sahara was lush and green, does it not make sense that ancient Egyptians are the ancestors of the few Atlantians that escaped the Younger Drias Catastrophe in a mass exodus eastward to Egypt? Now I'm getting into theory, but the facts are Egyptians are their own thing as far as history shows.
This is hilarious. Go woke and go broke
The Rijksmuseum going broke? Lmfao keep dreaming
and you have no education so there you go
The fact that I'm going to study archaeology in this climate worries me. I love history and archaeology with heart and soul, and for the institution I will trust my education to displaying these kinds of exhibitions makes me think about what they will teach me when I enroll in their curriculum. Maybe I should have picked something more practical with my education, at least then I can actually earn money with what I learn.
way to go egypt well done
The ancient greeks will tell you who were the egyptians
not a bad video but wtf is this title 😭
i like the idea of this video, just wish you didnt use the word "woke" its like a huge red flag
Agreed
Remember when the Nazis would spend years conducting archeological expeditions to prove that ancient greek, roman, and European history was built by the aryans?
Saying that it’s “Afrocentric” to call Egypt an African civilization is like saying it’s “Eurocentric” to say that Greece was a European civilization.
You said that in your video that the racial terms “black” and “white” are made up and thus shouldn’t be used to describe an ancient population of people. Yet, you use the black term to describe a region of Africa you call “Black Africa,” which is a made up term itself. 🤔
This logical inconsistency is what I often find in people who really don’t know what they’re talking about. For example, you took umbrage with the term “Kemet” being used at this Dutch exhibit, but are fine with the term “Egypt” which is a foreign name for that land. Why not use the term the ACTUAL Kemites used regardless of what some people who use that term believe? Another inconsistency.
Whether people like it or not, the ancient Kemites were indigenous Africans who created one of the greatest civilizations in human history. If that fact anlone upsets you , then you have no business studying and/or disseminating information about ancient Egypt.
Please stfu, ancient egyptians are mostly the descendants of the early levantine farmers (aka eurasian origin). Go look for history elsewhere, North African are not black and weren't in the past either (thankfully we have ancient dna now :p).
He's coping
@@athtarasterios9695no they aren't. Those farmers got slaughtered, and were forced to assimilate with the indigenous Nile valley Africans. This is portrayed in Narmers Pallet. The Africans are clearly on his side, while they slaughter middle eastern looking people.
Considering Afrocentrists have hijacked the termin Kemet for themselves as they have with the entire ancient culture, it is understandable to see it in a skeptical light, so your attempt at sounding oh so nuanced falls flat right then and there, especially considering you end your comment with the term "ancient Egypt" yourself.
Even though racism in the Morden definition is not present in Egypt,the Egyptians distinguished themselves from the rest of the African continental as fair skinned and called their neighbours the nubians as black or dark skinned and you may argue back by saying khemet means black soil which refers to the soil not the people,if you check our the 25th dynasty which was culturaly mostly Egyptian were still referred to as of nubian descent and different skin colour to the people.in conclusion Egypt has had nearly 32 dynasties and was ruled by many different cultures after the New Kingdom because it is in the edges of 2 different continent migration is more common.
Indeed, there is evidence suggesting that the Nubian monarchy predates the ancient Egyptian civilization.
The region of Lower Nubia, specifically Qustul (modern-day Aswan), is believed to be the origin of the earliest Pharaohnic Monarchy in the Nile Valley1. Excavations have shown that the White Crown, later used by Upper Egypt, originated from Qustul about 1,000 years before it was used in Egypt1.
The Nubian civilization had its own rich culture that powerfully influenced the land of the pharaohs2. They were diverse peoples with their own beliefs and customs2. Far from being a boring backwater to Egypt, the Nubians exchanged cultural ideas with their neighbors, even setting fashion trends for kings like Tutankhamun2.
Nubia was home to some of Africa’s earliest kingdoms3. Known for rich deposits of gold, Nubia was also the gateway through which luxury products like incense, ivory, and ebony traveled from their source in sub-Saharan Africa to the civilizations of Egypt and the Mediterranean3.
Modern researchers and writers hold differing views on the ancient roots of the Nubians4. However, ample evidence supports the notion that the Nubian civilization predates the ancient Egyptian civilization4.
Swiss archaeologist Charles Bonnet spent decades excavating the lands surrounding the southern Nile and found evidence of a civilization grown rich from trade and abundant with fields and livestock5. This kingdom was distinct from Egypt with its own material culture and traditions
I don’t think this is remotely “woke”.
Being anti woke is a great way to farm youtube clicks from dummies that feel threatened by anything that is different to themselves.