Sam Shamoun: Was Joseph Smith a Trinitarian, Modalist, or Polytheist?

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  • Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
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  • @shamounian
    @shamounian  2 года назад +7

    Please subscribe to Disciples of YHWH in Christ: ruclips.net/user/DisciplesofYHWHinChrist
    And here are my articles on Joseph Smith's evolving theology and mormonism:
    answeringislamblog.wordpress.com/2020/03/03/joseph-smith-the-false-prophet-debate/
    answeringislamblog.wordpress.com/2020/04/09/notes-for-mormon-debate/

  • @kingbaldwiniv5409
    @kingbaldwiniv5409 2 года назад +11

    I love a great many Mormons and pray for them at every mass. Thank you for taking the time to identify contradictory passages.
    Viva Cristo Rey!

    • @MrMuaythai84
      @MrMuaythai84 9 дней назад

      i love my mormon friends but i pray they find truth

  • @alowe2184
    @alowe2184 2 года назад +11

    I agree love Sams knowledge, I pray my mind could absorb and keep it the way he does! Y’all are a blessing!

  • @sgt.grinch3299
    @sgt.grinch3299 2 года назад +8

    Excellent session as usual. I pray God blesses and protects Scott and Jodie. May this channel grow and continue to teach truth and love.

  • @gerardducharme2146
    @gerardducharme2146 2 года назад +4

    And the session was great KEEP IT ROLLING. Good Bless Gloria Tibi Domine

  • @eniyachibiliti6665
    @eniyachibiliti6665 2 года назад +5

    God bless Sam iam learning a lot

  • @Cercy-vm5hm
    @Cercy-vm5hm 11 месяцев назад +6

    Blood atonement was a Brighamite invention, from my understanding.
    I was born and raised in the biggest /Brighamite sect. I had never learned about Adam-God, blood atonement etc. as I was growing up. I'm 44, and only heard of these horrid doctrines recently.
    Just to add to the confusion, even the scriptures LDS/Mormon/Brighamite holds as cannon have been modified. The Doctrine and Covenants originally contained what was known as the Lectures on Faith where it states that the HG is the combined mind/will of God the Father and of Christ....
    I'm grateful to God to have allowed me to see through the deception (finally). I pray that God will continue to guide me to His truth, no matter what it looks like and despite my preconceived notions and conditioning. 🙏🧡🙏

  • @missv9460
    @missv9460 2 года назад +3

    Sam, we have missed you. Please come back and visit California 🤗

    • @shamounian
      @shamounian  2 года назад +5

      God will, I will be there.

    • @missv9460
      @missv9460 2 года назад

      @@shamounian 👍🙏

    • @shamounian
      @shamounian  2 года назад +1

      @@missv9460 live in 16 minutes, God willing.

    • @missv9460
      @missv9460 2 года назад

      @SHAMOUNIAN yes! 👍

  • @joeplemmons3737
    @joeplemmons3737 2 года назад +23

    Let me save you 2 hours. He was a polytheist.

    • @shamounian
      @shamounian  2 года назад +33

      man I wish I knew that before I spent two hours trying to figure out what he was.

    • @sagepope6985
      @sagepope6985 Год назад +4

      @everyday tenor that’s called modelism, which is also wrong

    • @sagepope6985
      @sagepope6985 Год назад +1

      @everyday tenor you literally just said Jesus has been referred to as the father, that’s modelism. But if they’re three seperate gods then that’s polytheism, sorry if you think I’m jumping on your words but Jesus has never been the father

    • @ChristisLord2023
      @ChristisLord2023 Год назад +2

      ​@everyday tenor even with 2 it's polytheism. Now I can refer you to OT references including deep study of Hebrew language that shows the Trinity in the OT. The same OT Jesus Himself had which would be what was buried in the rubble 100 to 200 years before Christ Jesus was born. The scripture hasn't changed, and the Trinity was already there. Just because there was no name for it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Without adding or removing anything from scripture it is already there in the language and the text itself.

    • @ChristisLord2023
      @ChristisLord2023 Год назад +1

      @everyday tenor we've been through this before, you and I. I won't be fooled by false information about Christianity. Developed understanding of what was already there is more like it. Unlike the doctrines of the Roman Catholic Church and the LDS church, there was no need for anything extra-biblical to prove this doctrine, so developed is not an accurate word, regardless of who may have quoted that word.

  • @mitchelljimeno3564
    @mitchelljimeno3564 Год назад +1

    Praise to the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit!

  • @edwinwestartv741
    @edwinwestartv741 2 года назад +4

    @hello bro sam Shamoun it will be a great idea to have a backup channel please is very important because there are many Christian Arabic and English channels is been deleted by youtube,I know many channels is been attack by this keyboard jihadis by Muslim

  • @MihaelaKraft
    @MihaelaKraft 3 месяца назад +1

    I need to tell you guys, they change the website and the text “to become god” is gone! The hole text, just the start is there

  • @mvuyisisapepa3222
    @mvuyisisapepa3222 2 года назад +1

    Welcome!

  • @mr.chosen5340
    @mr.chosen5340 2 года назад +9

    Mormonism's a blasphemy.

  • @silentmobius9252
    @silentmobius9252 2 года назад +2

    The native Americans are jews from a lost tribe of Israel. I'm not making it up. It's Mormon doctrine. It's so stupid but I'm not making it up. They believe in the Trinity now??‽ they didn't when I argued with them and took them them into my home . They used to argue against the Trinity.

    • @user-yr9lt7dz8k
      @user-yr9lt7dz8k Год назад +1

      You believe that Noah built a boat without ever sailing on the ocean. If you have that kind of faith then you should be able to believe anything.

    • @bobo577
      @bobo577 2 месяца назад

      @@user-yr9lt7dz8kThe ark was a large lifeboat, not for voyage.

  • @williamlinam4721
    @williamlinam4721 Год назад

    They say 1corin 15:29 supports their baptism for the dead ... They took one verse and made a doctrine out of it

    • @ChristisLord2023
      @ChristisLord2023 Год назад +3

      It only supports thier doctrines when taken out of context.

  • @silentmobius9252
    @silentmobius9252 2 года назад

    Strange philosophy... forms and matter without either the platonic heresy or the divine ideas...

  • @silentmobius9252
    @silentmobius9252 2 года назад

    Accept this religion and you aren't only denying the monarchia....but Christ's promises to the Church.

  • @silentmobius9252
    @silentmobius9252 2 года назад

    If I ever make an mmorpg Kolobs will be a low level villain race... nevermind. it's been done before...kolobs in eq

  • @williamlinam4721
    @williamlinam4721 Год назад +2

    I've been through many conversations about doctrine and covenants, and pearl of great price.... I can point out 3 false prophecies in the book by Joseph Smith

  • @cocopop111
    @cocopop111 5 месяцев назад +2

    The maze of Mormonism ….. just on history alone it doesn’t make sense ….

  • @williamlinam4721
    @williamlinam4721 Год назад +2

    Look at this condition in the pearl of great price......
    (Moses 2:1,3) God created All things." verse 3 God said let there be light."
    (Abraham 4:1,3) said they that is gods formed heavens and the earth. "Verse 3 said they the gods said let there be light ."
    They the gods said let there be light , and God said let there be light..... Huge contradiction

  • @williamlinam4721
    @williamlinam4721 Год назад

    Doctrine and covenants 138:38 calls Adam ancient of days ........
    The Bible in Daniel called God ancient of days ......

  • @slowboymetaphysician3899
    @slowboymetaphysician3899 2 года назад +1

    Joe Smith, mega-coomer/prophet.

  • @mormonguru5984
    @mormonguru5984 3 месяца назад +1

    If you guys are going to evangelize to Mormons you better know the living prophets name and shave, put on a suit so they don’t assume you’re going to be antagonizing. They will put up their guard bare their testimony of the living Prophet and of Jospeh Smith and that will be the last of the discussion. If you want that conversation to continue further , your approach does matter! Believe me. I’ve been inside for over a decade

  • @silentmobius9252
    @silentmobius9252 2 года назад +1

    Before I even watch I know they are polytheistic. They don't have a manarchia or anarche anarchos. Their god is a glorified man who has a cause He was a man who aquirehied godhood. Otherwise they are trinitarians and accept
    three indivuduals with the same nature. They just don't accept the Father as the sole uncaused caused.

    • @user-yr9lt7dz8k
      @user-yr9lt7dz8k Год назад

      Lamestream Christianity believes in many false traditions taught by false prophets and false priests of Roman Catholic Zealots, Eastern Orthodox Pharisees and Reformationist Protestantism Sadduccees.

  • @shaunjeff45
    @shaunjeff45 2 месяца назад

    For one thing, Sam of all people should know, it's not in respect to call the Church Mormons or any other nickname given by people who hated the church, and the Church leader asked that in respect of the Church, to call the Church by its respected name. Sam on here doesn't know much of what he is talking about, and he says he hasn't learned too much about the religion he's speaking of, like that of Islam; which he knows. So he's actually on here flapping his mouth and making sounds.

    • @shamounian
      @shamounian  2 месяца назад +2

      stop barking like a female d-0-g since Mormons are not Christians. skype me to go live to debate or I will block you: benny_malik3

    • @shamounian
      @shamounian  2 месяца назад +2

      and I don't respect sons of Satan like Joseph Smith.

    • @shamounian
      @shamounian  2 месяца назад +2

      now female d-0-g, you better skype to go live to see who doesn't know what they are talking about.

    • @shaunjeff45
      @shaunjeff45 Месяц назад

      @shamounian We all know Mormons are not Christians, and why? Because there is no Mormon Church! Where is the Mormon Church? I like your channel, and would love to Skype with you; but since my Church is not a Mormon church, I am not a Mormon or don't believe in Mormonism, I have no reason to debate with you on those points. In the Church, we follow Jesus Christ, and everything we do is in his name! So what is a Christian, one who follows Jesus Christ? Was Joseph Smith perfect? No! Are you perfect? The answer is obvious and no! But you stated your relative's religion is closer to Islam! The Quran is satanic, and not relative to God in the Bible. The Church was never the Mormon Church. The Mormon name was the given name by people who hated the Church and had been used by people in ignorance. We fully believe in God ( God the Father, Father, God the Son, God the Holy Ghost) in the Bible. We center our life around Jesus Christ, and the Church is all about Jesus Christ, not Joseph Smith, Bruce Lee, or you! If you're looking for a Mormon to debate on Skype, concerning Mormons and their beliefs; you're going to have to find yourself a Mormon. I'm not hip on Skype, so send me some information about keeping in touch on Skype.