i love the rivalry between outpost guide creators. literally so competitive for no reason lmao but its sparking ingenuity and further efficiency. literal space race no pun. ash either gotta optimize the factory even more or release a 350k per minute setup. lol
Dude it's a lot of work, and it would piss me off if I spent maybe hundreds of hours trying to figure something out only to have some nerd poach it from me the next day for content. This dude has been first to the table with a lot of these complex ideas and total mouth breather clickbait jack-offs have been stealing from him
It’s interesting isnt it lol Im still doing his 40k one and im too scared to do this one Primarily cause of leveling the skills and whatnot Making links between the crates i ALWAYS mess up and give up
@@Nickelbagthagreat It seems scary at first relying on too many cargo links. The trick is to take your time and make sure there's no entanglements along the way. It's definitely worth it in the end, but it is a longterm investment in time.
its definitely not worth it if you dont inherently enjoy the process of setting all these outposts up, some ppl do, but if you just want the xp its not worth it. plenty of other xp farms. i like to use my outposts in more passive ways where maybe i wanna get a lvl or two ill spam craft something but for the nost part its just for having all resources there if i want and slight base buiilding for fun@@sequoia1171
For anyone who's going to attempt this beast of a multi-build, I have ONE tip: Try initially, or throughout your build, to upgrade your power sources to minimize your amount of entities. Put simply, have as few as possible structures which gives more power; ideally advanced nuclear generators. They give 100 power each per 1 unit, instead of like 33 windmills giving 3 power each (just an example). It'll drastically reduce the toll on your game, your rig, reduce savefile and memory bloat. It's just all around a good thing to always have in the back of your head. Accumulate certain parts throughout your build, take note of what to buy, get a decent cargo ship, invest in the skill that gives +50% cargo space for EACH cargo bay. Every little bit helps to reduce the toll, even the smallest of things. Remember you can't transport more than your cargo links can carry, so no reason to go overkill on extractors. Rather invest in skill to double extraction speed for all extractors, get the better extractors and fewer of them, instead of tons of lvl 1 extractors. You don't need insane towers of storage if you can only transport x amount of resources and you're filling them up before they empty. Try to get a balance in production vs transport, having the tiniest of surplus is enough, as long as you're not running dry. You can build it all then clean up along the way and upgrade, or simply plan it out and prepare with better parts initially. Both methods are viable.
Yeah, I was gonna say, Storage > Extractor since you can 100x the wait time. It is kinda funny he talked about transportation limits in the beginning then overbuilt each base... If it's true that cargo links don't run on wait time, then that will always be the bottleneck with something like this.
I personally got major latency spikes from the sheer number of interstellar transpos in the outposts on console. It may be somewhat redundant but I'm revising the outposts for automation and built a freighter to haul the major components to a production site rather than using multiple transpos.
@@DumpsterJedi Yeah, the cargo links will always be the bottleneck for sure. The fact that there's no way, skill or anything you can do to influence their efficiency what so ever is just mind boggling. You'd think the future where we're jumping from system to system like it's nothing we've solved the problem of transportation 😂
@@nicholaswarner3633 Idunno bout that tbh, that's going to be many trips back and forth for what feels like small chunks of exp. As janky as the cargo links are, and they are some real janky boiis.. it's still somewhat automated in a sense. The problem is that they're not tied to wait time, so it's constantly being calculated, and in realtime too. Terrible for game performance. If only they were treated like extractors and just acted as a pipeline from one planet to another. Nothing mods won't fix though, given enough time.
@@nicholaswarner3633 Same here. I have 16 outposts setup with about 4 cargo on each average. My game is lagging every 10 seconds or so. I had to kill all my cargo links as the game was almost unplayable on XSX.
To me in my mind he literally wins the game with this kind of complexity production setup. Because this is on a whole different level, several levels higher in complexity with spreadsheets needed to accomplish this kind of production logistics. This is winning the game without playing the main story. It is no small feat the sheer amount of work and brain power required to do this without going a bit insane doing it all. Just damn fun to watch though as a video. I do outpost production and setup, but at barely even 10% of what Kibbles is doing at lvl 50.
Even if you never ever do this in Starfield with Outposts, you have to honestly marvel at the sheer complexity of it all and the ingenuity to ponder and get this all done in very complex logistics. Because this is all complex to setup and get done and probably not drive your self insane setting it all up as well. But if you do really pay attention to this entire video, you will learn an immense amount about Outposts Production setup all in this one video and all the tips kibbles puts out just explaining what he’s doing. I’m doubting the game Devs expected anyone to take Outposts Production Logistics and Manufacturing to this level of sheer complexity. But it’s damn great you can do this in the game even with all the bugs and things that can still be improved over time fixing the game. As a former EveOnline player that used to do complex planetary production management with lots of spreadsheets, I just marvel at all this in Starfield that someone has figured out and mastered. This video just wins the entire game.
Thanks for documenting your heroic effort! However, 19 outposts for this is far from optimal. There is exactly one system in the game -- Narion -- that has all required resources, other than solvent and the two uniques, and that's where you want to go. Below is the most efficient setup, it only takes 7 outposts. Even if one builds everything twice, as you do, that's only 14 outposts in total, and a lot less convoluted. Decaran VII-b: Vytinium -> Grimsey (1 in, 1 out) Katydid III: Indicite -> Grimsey (1 in, 1 out) Codos (Cheyenne): Solvent -> Grimsey (1 in, 1 out) Dalvik (Narion): Caesium -> Grimsey (1 out) Kreet (Narion): Silver -> Cruth; Helium -> Grimsey, Codos, Decaran VII-b, Katydid III (5 out) Cruth (Narion): Antimony + Copper + Gold = Zero Wire, Semimetal Wafer -> Grimsey (1 in, 1 out) Grimsey (Narion): Plutonium + Uranium = Indicite Wafer, Nuclear Fuel Rod, Vytinium Fuel Rod (6 in)
Great work. I made a comment myself just a while ago asking Kibbles that he should investigate if there is a single 1 system where all this production logistics can take place, thus less relying on Interstellar Cargo Links and the issues you can have with them all and Helium 3. If no such system exist, then keeping it to a minimal if possible to rely on an additional system for the other few resources that would be still ok as it’s minimal. But the setup would be far less chaotic and cleaner. But great work in figuring out much of this can be done in the Narion system.
alright I'm doing this. His calls for 3 outposts that each extract silver, copper, and gold. I've spent a total of 8 hours and I have not found a single one yet.
Also, if you level the food proficiency skill(+50%), your exp consumables goes from 2% to 3% exp. Combined with a spouse, it'll give you a nice 18% bonus exp buff. Every little bit helps.
@@baileyjones1854 raise your affection, or "reputation", with a follower enough and you'll get the option to marry them. There's a skill to speed it up too, first rank of the follower skill (leadership?). Every good deed/selfless act you do, quest you complete, mission board etc gives some affection (I think). Good luck!
@@baileyjones1854she'll come around..😂 one time I noticed she wasn't following me anymore and I couldn't find her anywhere. So I went searching and I finally found her pouting in the bottom corner of my ship. She wouldn't even tell me why she was mad and what I did. and I literally had no clue. Apparently I must have hit someone with a stray or something cuz I had a murder under my belt and it was the only thing that it could have been. But just like rl she was more mad that I didn't even know .😂
I have the Outpost that gathers 4 of those resources: Aluminium, Iron, Cobalt and Nickel. On Bassel III-B you can get 3 Biom split intersections and the wait time conversion is 1:60 HR, which makes it extremely fast to fill all 4 resources like in 5 seconds 😁
U built my outpost here early on, 6 resources in one place. Then when I was sent to Bassel lllb to find the temple it glitched because I had already been to the planet. Couldnt find the temple at all.
If you get a bug in your outpost view where you can't place or change anything and you can't use workbenches, a workaround is to quicksave (F5) followed by a quickload (F9). Then it should work again (for a time). I built my own version of this and it was pretty fun. :-)
Oh heads up people. If you end up putting an outpost down by an enemy ship that decides the land near you and occasionally attack you and or glitches your game where all your stuff randomly starts exploding. Just go over when you see them next time land kill them all board the ship kill them all and then just leave The ship seems to just stay there permanently. It at least did for me and I haven't had the issue since
Have encountered something similar. Put down an Outpost, pirate ship landed close by just outside Outpost perimeter and where I can easily see it as well. Boarded and killed everyone on the Stiletto ship, but couldn’t captain it even though I’ve also stolen the exact same ship before. So I just decided to just leave the ship there. No other pirate ship has since landed anywhere around the outpost perimeter. However, I do think it has caused some issue in being able to land my own ship at the very same Outpost. Have placed a small and large landing pad but my ship still can’t land at the Outpost, but about 300 meters away in other direction. What I’ve had to do was after building the big landing pad with ability to modify ship, I was able to switch ships as home and it then appeared on the landing pad. Then I just switch back to the ship I wanted. It’s a work around. But I haven’t yet gone back to that outpost yet since to know if landing can now be triggered at the big landing pad. However, in my view out from outpost is the pirate ship as part the landscape view.
lol - got raided by pirates, who got attacked by va'ruun zealots landing in second.... elicpse totally missed the party and showed up like 2-3 days later. man... that day drained all my meds.... lulz - carried and FOUGHT with 50k of weight :p
I spent all evening on the guides from the channel that you mentioned, couldn't make progress, the "beginner" one was so finicky because it requires 5 overlapping resources and 3 overlapping biomes. Finally after feeling myself overheating from the frustration I went to the endgame one since I am level 91. Well then nothing is clear I got the first step built after less than 20 minutes with your video. So much clearer about what to look for and how etc. thank you!
To reduce lag, minimize cargo links. I do round trips to collect solvent, indicite, vytinium, etc manually. Takes a bit longer but the lag reduction payoff is well worth it
A tip for those having CARGO LINK problems: A lot of the times, the first time a cargo ship arrives after you activate it, it'll be empty. Wait for it to complete a second trip. Most often, the second time it arrives, it'll have the cargo on it. If it arrives empty a second time, it's time to trouble shoot. But don't think it's bugged just because it arrived empty on its first trip.
I really liked all the supply chain engineering in this process. You performed huge better than real persons in the real world with real problems like that to solve. Thanks so much for share this, I believe that gave you a lot of work to do. I’m looking forward to test something like that and change my current 6K XP/Min farm to it
Thank you, this take you lot of time, 👍 got two hints, -you can delete landing point by Create and delete outpost, then fly back to the orbit - dont have it confirmed that may broke something -when I go NG+ (Starborn) somehow my max Cargo Links bugout and I can put max 3/3 (on older save 6/6) with outpost management
Almost every day I make fun of myself for doing this exact level of planing for a video game and then I see I'm not the only one with videos like this and it makes me feel a little better.
Man, i finally decided to do this because i got bored with doing NG+. Got NG 5 and said screw it. I have never been more frustrated with a planet than Lutana 7-a. I watched and landed meticulously right where you landed, and for the life of me, i could not get gold and silver in the same spot. I could easily get everything but never those 2 together. Argh
I wish the storage containers functioned as one unit if they are grouped together - that way you just need to set one link for input to the group and one output link if you choose. This by far takes up the most time for me when building outposts
Auto-linking storage that physically touch does make plenty of sense than having to link them one by one. I mean, when will you ever put them perfectly side-by-side and not have them have the same mats in them. Hopefully Beth will get that in instead of killing 15-year-old exploits. :)
Even easier just add like 3x1, 2x2, etc alternative storages, can have them unlocked with research and just have the equivalent weight limit storage of the same number of smaller storages...
I ended up changing the 140k indicite wafer method to send indicite, solvent and caesium, to lantana where the the zero wire and semimetal wafers are being produced, i took advantage of a glitch that let me put outposts overlapping each other and in turn being able to transfer materials from the extra outpost to the original, this lets me have 12 cargo links filling up one outpost, only using 9 currently tho cos lag, im wanna try implement the bug into this method but at this point i wouldnt even know where to start, 10/10 vid, cheers dude
If you are thinking of trying this, step 1 is to go find the 3x triples resources locations on Lantana. This is not easy and will be very time consuming if you are not lucky w rng.
You called and I will answer; you're welcome to pin this and have your viewers help dissect what I'll have to say if you'd like, but lets get to it ye? ~ Was anything I said, at any point, wrong? Have you yourself not seen or used even to a lesser extent the very practices I criticize? Because I will say I find it wildly amusing that you mention I'm calling people out but neglect to explain what exactly I called people out for. Setups may vary, sure and that's something I discuss in the video there are ways to cut down on outposts or further optimize and/or increase production, but the farm and the burst xp are the same - it's just a matter of prolonging the burst window and even still there are ways yet to improve the burst window even more beyond this and you know it but the burst xp range will never change. You didn't even explain how to properly reach the 300k that you advertise but I'll admit I'm happy that at least for once you advocated bed usage instead of the bench(a truly insane hallmark of your past videos, so I appreciate that and finally getting Caesium down and this isn't sarcasm) even if just the bed will never let you reach 300k which you neglect to mentionl. I don't mind that you've gone and prolonged the burst window and if that's all it were I wouldn't have minded but I don't believe for a second that this video is anything but a response to mine. Adamant as you are in your comments responding to others saying you came up with this on your own, you can at least admit that your video was *heavily* influenced by mine and if you can't do that then I guess I give up here and now on a discussion. File date means nothing and surely you recognize that. Speaking of calling out though, you are not actually the target of my criticism at the start of my video though you do absolutely have practices I think are BS/bait/etc, I'll just paste a segment from a discussion I had in my comments, below here. In the future, if the shoe fits you're welcome to lace it up and I'll never mind that nor if you want to call me out yourself, but do a better job of it. You wanna say yours is better at least say why yours is better instead of giving a generic "bc I said so" because while I understand what you've done you're misleading the viewers into believing your farm is meaningfully different and depending on the perspective we can argue it is from the idea of a raw xp burst window, it is no different in regards to the end result xp/min which is the benchmark you are so fond of touting, and my video was never about anything but that. ~~~~Segment from comments discussion~~~~ "Presumably you are referencing kibbles. While I do have gripes about him and his practices specifically, he is probably the creator I am the LEAST frustrated with and while he is technically part of all my complaints in some regards, he is NOT my target in the beginning of this video. If I have 2 major gripes about kibbles, they are the following 1) Video length, given what I just talked about above. A 50min guide makes me want to plant my skull through a wall, especially when it doesn't NEED to be that long. I already wept at how long my own video was which is why I joked about that at the end of the vid, but the length was the bare minimum to achieve everything I wanted to. 2) He stopped at indicite wafers, and I already covered in this video why that seems crazy to me and it just seems like a lot of peeps didn't research properly on what options were available but it is what it is, I feel THIS snark in particular is deserved on all fronts no matter who it is. Honorable mention) Caesium pronunciation On the flip side though, Kibbles is actually the ONLY person who actually did their math correctly, if only for their claim(obv not what they showed in game). Indicite wafers do actually net around 140k if I remember right(don't remember exactly what ranges wafers offered but I did obv work out all the possible crafting options before arriving at this setup) and that is the reason kibbles is probably the only starfield creator that gets any amount of respect from me even if his videos make me wanna die." ~~~~ Cordially, -That dude calling out everyone
You and Kibbles are both really really helpfull and great in outposts! Lets stay in peace and create together 500k per minute Farm haha. I look forward for your both creations!!! love
Dude you have main character syndrome, it's not like this guy hasn't been making XP guides since the game came out, naturally stepping up the XP gains everytime, yet you think this is nothing but a response to your vid ?
I took the time to farm up all the mats needed to craft 100 adv-power and OMG does this save time not having to put down thousands of solar and wind gens. Highly recommend!
Finally finished this and the game got pretty laggy on my PC, it was really cool to build, but the glitches, slow down, chopiness and stuff made me realize that a smaller build of indicite wafers or something like that would have been better to do(my PC is not the best)..... I feel bad for xbox people and definitely something smaller would work better for people in that situation...... I would like to give 3 tips, 1. there are mods for PC that speed up extractors, increase max outposts and make containers and cargo links hold more items, super helpful..... 2. When you are done and after getting to level 328 to max out all skill points, just unhook/ turn off all cargo links and all the slowdown and chopiness will go away, you do not have to tear down every outpost. I'm keeping mine in case I need to use them again when the DLC comes out. 3. I kept running into different bottlenecks and problems and was getting very frustrated, I added machines, fixed cargo links, added more containers etc... I got it running better, but kept getting bottlenecks of Nuclear rods, plutonium, indicite wafers, cesium, etc..... usually the nuclear rods...... at some point, you should just go to the places that have what has run out and got stuck and just build it yourself and/or bring it there, in about 4-5 hours of doing this along with the main vytinium rods, I got to lvl 328..... I leveled up a lot and got plenty of experience by building indicite wafers, nuclear rods, semimetal wafers, etc... The cool thing about this is that you really feel like you are getting the most out of the outpost system, if it was less glitchy and my PC was a lil stronger, it probably would have gone down smoother, but it was still a worthwhile project............. If all you care about is leveling up and skill points and you dont want to learn too much about outposts, just do one of the wafers or maybe even adaptive frames in an outpost with macros/ turbo button.............. or command console......
THIS VIDEO IS PURE EVIDENCE THAT THE LEARNIN'S IN SCHOOL IS SOOOO VERY IMPORTANT..... JK'IN BUT NOT.... DUDE THE FORCE IN YOU IS STRONG.... NERD FACTOR LEVEL 10. THIS VIDEO IS JUST GOING TO MELT MANY OF WEAK MINDS...... WELL THOUGHT OUT AND EXPLAINED. GREAT JOB
So I am getting to the end of this awesome thing. If you keep the 4 outposts for other starting build materials you end up with 25 outposts. Guess once the empire is built you won't need them. Except for the Lantana 3 resource bases everything went smooth. It takes time but you can get those bases found.
Just finished my set up as well. If I could do it again I would scout all base locations first and not put build anything at each base until I had all bases situated. Running around encumbered trying to find the perfect Latana locations was painful.
Oh damn. As I'm watching this you casually mentioned something that is probably going to change everything about how I'm doing what I'm doing. I've been thinking that the cargo links are breaking my game, but it may be the fact that I've made gigantic storage containers. The stuttering and freezing has gotten a lot better since I turned off a bunch of my cargo links, but I may be able to improve the situation drastically by rebuilding some of these storage stacks. Hmm
Just a little info for your guys playing on a series X. If your having problems with lag and the game freezing up it's actually all the cargo links that screw it up and not the storage containers. I had this whole thing set up and it was unplayable. I went around and deleted most of the cargo links and it was perfect again. Well is was for me anyways. Hope this helps someone because i was stumped for about a week.
I found that helium (as a resource )has bug where it randomly disappears from your outpost. Meaning that while on outpost build mode it looks like it's there and you're able to build extractors on the resource node, but if you leave and come back to the planet it disappears and regenerates the resource map within your outpost.
First off, amazing work. I do think the amount of resources to make all level 3 stuff is understated. Going to try wth lvl 2 shit and see how it compares. Awesome guide!
Two reasons the guy was calling people out. A. Lying about their XP per second, and B lying that indicite wafers were the best thing you can craft for XP. The math joke is hilarious since he was going after the math for the XP so good on you there.
This is amazing, I have followed all your outpost guides and completed them all and on xbox which is worst with the lag. I guess this one is the final mission and I am going to complete it and report back. I like you enjoy this more than the story itself and I am already on Ng+ with all levels max too which took me around 240 temples lol. Anyways, this is awesome
A suggestion for the first outpost instead of Andraphon, go to Bessel 2-A. It has iron, aluminum, cobalt, and nickel. I find it's much better for the initial stages.
Optimize everything you can. Eg use nuclear reactors instead of a million solar panels, large cargo instead of the smaller. Also the bottleneck is cargo links, so there's no point extracting 10000kg of one resource if the cargo can only take 500kg or whatever it is
That is a seriously badass setup. Would not the big fusion generator help with lag and freeze,instead of all the wind and solar or split the two. Great video
A challenge for Kibbles would be can he find 1 single system where it’s possible to do all this where there is no need to rely on Interstellar Cargo Link. Or as less as possible in the logistics chain. It would likely require a system with lots of planets and moons with a diverse array of resources across the entire system to start with.
Narion has the silver, gold, antimony, copper, uranium, caesium and plutonium. Then you just import the Solvent from Cheyenne-Codos, the Indicite from Katydid-Katydid III and the Vytnium from Decaran-Decaran VII-b. I am not sure how to balance the quantities required for each stage, but it should be simple enough to keep each individual resource and produced item in their own storage, so you do not end up with items hogging all the space.
@@stevenmiles441 Thanks for the feeedback and help. Keeping all this in mind for a setup. I think it just be fun to try. It's a lot of time to do. But i'm an old EVEOnline player that played that spreadsheet game with Industrial Research, Production and Planetary Resources, so i don't mind if it takes long to do. Its just the fun of it all in making a game out of it as something to work towards as if its a quest in itself with the production objective. So much thanks for pointing out the resources and locations outside of Narion. However, so far it seems like that system is Narion to reduce the reliance on Cargo Link Interstellar.
I can save you the time of watching that video... just add cargo modules til you have 120k+. You're welcome. Building ships is like playing with legos. You shouldn't need a guide to do it.
when i first start a ng+ now, I go to an outpost and tag all the things i need to build level 3 extractors, robots, reactors, greenhouses and anything i need for a generic outpost. Then those items are highlighted for the rest of the game, and i buy all of them from every vendor i run into while i play. once you do the research to unlock the higher end modules, things get easier. so.. kibbles.. I get you. I did a vyntium rod plant on my last NG+, and i felt like I had conquered the outpost part of this game. I did mine different, and i never paid attention to the amounts coming in from each cargo link, but i got it to work. Id recommend that you now try the bio version of the same base. Anyone can see in the industrial workbench that there are quite a few other items that require a rare bio component. one of those may yield even greater results. I also want to add in something since you mentioned you had a freighter ship at the beginning of the video. Vyntium is a limiting factor for xp in this farm, and it wouldnt hurt to pick up and transport your own load of say.. 20k vyntium when you go to make the final load of xp.
the problem with doing that for vytinium is that the only fast way to pick up the vytinium is to build a quick outpost of it then delete the outpost. Vytinium actually isn't a limiting factor at all in this farm, I just have a sleeping bag next to the workbench and sleep for 2 hours between crafts and all my vytinium storage is full again. Also I was thinking about doing other ones for fun at some point, but damn the amount of time these late game ones take is absolutely crazy. This one took 10 hours of research and planning and then 30 hours or something to make it, record the clips, do the video editing, etc. But I will try to do more stuff in the future.
@@VideoGameDataBank I was in the process of re-doing this base.. when I've suddenly become hit with the outpost management bug and can no longer create more than 3 cargo links, only 3 robots... blah blah.... oh well. Hopefully it isnt months before this gets patched.
Still limited to how fast fuel rods ship with this setup. One plutonium line can supply three rod lines (187 Pu : 60*3 rods) unfortunately two wafer lines then becomes the limiter bringing in only 75*2. That setup still increases the xp per hr by 25% being able to turnover 150 units per shipment vs the 120 with equal lines. Theoretical maximum units per line is sending packets of 28 Pu, 28 nuc rod, 28 wafer resulting in 168 units turned over per shipment per outpost. However achieving that max has proven challenging to source the correct resources to produce all from single outposts such that packets can actually be sent in the correct ratio. For only a 12% xp/hr gain over the semi-optimal 150 units per shipment of 1Pu:2wafer:3nuc rods incoming to each vytinium outpost.
I used this method to reach lvl 182 then I fully deleted every outpost I owned to remove game lag. I suggest you do the same but maybe don't level as high as I did, instead find out a better perk tree to spend levels.
Great guide, I might do this close to end-game. So if you had played the game for any length of time you would have heard them pronounce Tranquilitea and realized that it says TEA at the end. Other than that great vid. I'm glad you had fun turning fallout in space into an arguably less-good satisfactory. Have you tried Satisfactory?
How much storage did you end up pruning at the end and what outposts did you prune? I’m having an issue with my game freezing on Xbox. I’ve got a few outposts in the same landing area but I don’t think it’s more than 2 or 3, each on different planets.
Is there a substitute world for Latana 7? I have been looking for 4 days for a spot with Copper/Silver/Gold and can't find a single one. I only find Copper/SIlver/Lead or Copper/Gold.
I can't build this. Not because I can't follow the guide, it's very well done and easy to follow, it's because my game can't handle it. I play on the xbox series s and the last xp farm broke my game. It freezes every few seconds. The game can't handle that much stuff going on in the background.
Thanks loads for this enjoyed doing this for the last few days.. although the stuttering and general stalling of the game from all the storage/cargo links is annoying. I think I need to go back and tidy everything alot! I have over done it with the storage too, amazing stuff though and thank you :). my biggest issue I think is my Latana 7, I built all 3 in the same instance spot (finding those copper/gold/silver ones in multiple instances was a pain compared to running along a found border) and those are constructing both simple and advanced fabricators.. you can stand on the middle outpost and watch all the transport links taking off and setting down from all 3! would be great if it didn't slow it down so much. thanks once again :) *Edit,, fun bits in the tips where i built all 3 latina big builds in the same landing instance means you have to visit one of them or it stops filling up with Antomoly. tried making a 3rd antomol outpost thinking output was down but that made no odds.. one of those 3 big boys got to go! :) thanks once again .
The katharsis of watching you knock this out is wonderful. Congratulations on hitting that point where you're satisfied with maximizing outpost production for XP. Comboing that with the venus trader trick should make for easy access to all the money you'd ever need in a single universe. Would it be worth going through and tagging the consumption of each outpost in terms of materials and optimizing further to only have say, 3-4 large storages for each material? As an example: use top tier resource gatherers, minimize the count needed for each base, and include top generators with their he3 consumption in the calculation for each he3 world to eliminate solar and wind altogether in those spaces. That way each location will have the absolute minimum number of objects built per location until you hit the final two outposts for max xp and min lag.
Oh, and because my memory sucks, now I always have 1 small box on the input to my storage stacks, and two small boxes on the output. Makes it really easy for me to see what I'm doing.
This is so funny the comment. So you know if your aware of the micro machines commercials that you’ve been around in the early 80s-90s seeing all the toys commercials 😂. Those were always so funny. But yeah, Kibbles talk so fast, his brains can barely keep up with what he’s saying.
Why not mine the silver, gold, antimony, copper, uranium, caesium and plutonium in the Narion system, and then import the Vytnium from Decaran, Solvent from Cheyenne, and the Indicite from Katydid?
That's exactly what I did and I'm doing all manufacturing on one single outpost for Vytinium fuel rods as the ultimate. I did consider creating manufactured items on separate planets but it seems a needlessly complicated solution.
Wowzers! Amazing stuff and so, so complicated... which is exactly what I'm looking for! I'm several hundred hours in and need things to focus on and once I start my "Miner Guy", I'll be doing that. Of course, it's a double-edged sword because once I DO get to max level I'm not sure I'll have an incentive to continue playing which will make me sad...
Kibbles Gaming did you see someone glitched the game a little from your ship glitch yesterday to make it even faster!? Loved this video well worth the watch!
Did this on xbox, game lags like crazy. It gets a bit better when you go around getting mats instead of the cargo links. But in the end its not worth it for me. Managed to do it then deleted most outposts. Beat the game.
damn thank youfor all the HOURS on HOURS it took to do this for us, i find the other creator didnt explain it as well as you did. im stuck right now having such a hard time finding an outpost location on lantana 7 that has the silver with the copper and gold.
took me 2 hours but i finally found a spot to use... i wonder whats better spending the time finding a spot like this or just separate outpost where you get more of the main resource
Huge problem with cargo links is that the outgoing and incoming has a 500 limit so it can get “clogged” with something that wasn’t supposed to be in the supply line (liquid instead of solid) so then it just bugs the cargo link and being stuck
easiest fix i found for that is using single material cargo link posts. never have problems with systems that bring in a bunch of materials from other outposts anymore, but yeah, was a huge problem before for me as well.
I am new to the game and just started playing it. Been watching a lot of your videos and sub'd as well. Just a small question, kind of stupid though, is there a way to collect from containers that are linked or do you have to go to each storage to collect the resources?
Couldn't you make one final outpost near a city with vendors that has a cargo link to deliver all the fuel rods to so you could pick them up and just go to the vendor?
I’m not going to even attempt this. I got the Adaptive Frame and the other thing down combining Copper and Beryllium. Just attempting to do half the stuff will kill my PC and that’s no pun at all as it’s still running a GTX 1080. I’ve been too busy playing the game to take the time I should be doing to install the new AMD RX 6800 and the Rysen CPU. Both down time to install and fix any new issues. But my game can’t handle this kind of Outpost complexity. Can literally hear the game stutter before the usual crashes and have to restart game with current pc rig setup.
@@paihobbes8680 It's the "Tau Grade Rheostat" made at the Industrial Workbench. just like Adaptive Frames with only require 1 of each of two resources, making Tau Grade Rheostat only require 1 Copper and 1 Beryllium which are all very common resource if your doing Outpost resource extraction. It has a value of x3 Adaptive Frame. So it also sells for more. I tend to make a lot of these for XP, but they do come in handy making other suff. I just put down a Blue Plastic Bin next to the workbench and they when i finish making hundreds of these just like Adaptive Frames, i just stand next to the Blue Plastic Bin and drop them all into the Blue Bin. They like small disks, so they don't take up much space in the Bin visually. Surely not as compared to Adaptive Frames which i have a Blue Bin complete full of. However, If you haven't sold off lots of your Adaptive Frames, they do come quite in handy by the boat load when your upgrading your Storage Containers to lvl 2+.
whats fun is when all your storage containers show empty with 1234567890 on their display, then you have unlimited of whatever is in that storage chain
Great job! What a pain in the ass this is, been at it a few days and am at the connection phase. Already finding jacked up red lines on places. Its been fun though, aboit as deep into the mechanics as you can get w this.
There’s literally solar systems to explore and pirates to shoot - these rival content creators: Literal equivalent of cabbage farmers bickering over where and when is the best way to grow cabbages in Skyrim as dragons fly in the sky
i love the rivalry between outpost guide creators. literally so competitive for no reason lmao but its sparking ingenuity and further efficiency. literal space race no pun. ash either gotta optimize the factory even more or release a 350k per minute setup. lol
lol, I have no intention on doing any of this but I'm here for the starfield crafting space race.
Dude it's a lot of work, and it would piss me off if I spent maybe hundreds of hours trying to figure something out only to have some nerd poach it from me the next day for content. This dude has been first to the table with a lot of these complex ideas and total mouth breather clickbait jack-offs have been stealing from him
It’s interesting isnt it lol
Im still doing his 40k one and im too scared to do this one
Primarily cause of leveling the skills and whatnot
Making links between the crates i ALWAYS mess up and give up
@@Nickelbagthagreat It seems scary at first relying on too many cargo links. The trick is to take your time and make sure there's no entanglements along the way. It's definitely worth it in the end, but it is a longterm investment in time.
its definitely not worth it if you dont inherently enjoy the process of setting all these outposts up, some ppl do, but if you just want the xp its not worth it. plenty of other xp farms. i like to use my outposts in more passive ways where maybe i wanna get a lvl or two ill spam craft something but for the nost part its just for having all resources there if i want and slight base buiilding for fun@@sequoia1171
For anyone who's going to attempt this beast of a multi-build, I have ONE tip:
Try initially, or throughout your build, to upgrade your power sources to minimize your amount of entities. Put simply, have as few as possible structures which gives more power; ideally advanced nuclear generators. They give 100 power each per 1 unit, instead of like 33 windmills giving 3 power each (just an example).
It'll drastically reduce the toll on your game, your rig, reduce savefile and memory bloat. It's just all around a good thing to always have in the back of your head. Accumulate certain parts throughout your build, take note of what to buy, get a decent cargo ship, invest in the skill that gives +50% cargo space for EACH cargo bay.
Every little bit helps to reduce the toll, even the smallest of things.
Remember you can't transport more than your cargo links can carry, so no reason to go overkill on extractors. Rather invest in skill to double extraction speed for all extractors, get the better extractors and fewer of them, instead of tons of lvl 1 extractors.
You don't need insane towers of storage if you can only transport x amount of resources and you're filling them up before they empty. Try to get a balance in production vs transport, having the tiniest of surplus is enough, as long as you're not running dry.
You can build it all then clean up along the way and upgrade, or simply plan it out and prepare with better parts initially. Both methods are viable.
Yeah, I was gonna say, Storage > Extractor since you can 100x the wait time. It is kinda funny he talked about transportation limits in the beginning then overbuilt each base... If it's true that cargo links don't run on wait time, then that will always be the bottleneck with something like this.
I personally got major latency spikes from the sheer number of interstellar transpos in the outposts on console. It may be somewhat redundant but I'm revising the outposts for automation and built a freighter to haul the major components to a production site rather than using multiple transpos.
@@DumpsterJedi Yeah, the cargo links will always be the bottleneck for sure. The fact that there's no way, skill or anything you can do to influence their efficiency what so ever is just mind boggling. You'd think the future where we're jumping from system to system like it's nothing we've solved the problem of transportation 😂
@@nicholaswarner3633 Idunno bout that tbh, that's going to be many trips back and forth for what feels like small chunks of exp. As janky as the cargo links are, and they are some real janky boiis.. it's still somewhat automated in a sense. The problem is that they're not tied to wait time, so it's constantly being calculated, and in realtime too. Terrible for game performance. If only they were treated like extractors and just acted as a pipeline from one planet to another. Nothing mods won't fix though, given enough time.
@@nicholaswarner3633 Same here. I have 16 outposts setup with about 4 cargo on each average. My game is lagging every 10 seconds or so. I had to kill all my cargo links as the game was almost unplayable on XSX.
This is the most impressive thing I've ever seen in Starfield. I'm convinced we are not playing the same game.
You made Todd Howard proud today.
To me in my mind he literally wins the game with this kind of complexity production setup. Because this is on a whole different level, several levels higher in complexity with spreadsheets needed to accomplish this kind of production logistics. This is winning the game without playing the main story. It is no small feat the sheer amount of work and brain power required to do this without going a bit insane doing it all. Just damn fun to watch though as a video. I do outpost production and setup, but at barely even 10% of what Kibbles is doing at lvl 50.
Even if you never ever do this in Starfield with Outposts, you have to honestly marvel at the sheer complexity of it all and the ingenuity to ponder and get this all done in very complex logistics. Because this is all complex to setup and get done and probably not drive your self insane setting it all up as well. But if you do really pay attention to this entire video, you will learn an immense amount about Outposts Production setup all in this one video and all the tips kibbles puts out just explaining what he’s doing. I’m doubting the game Devs expected anyone to take Outposts Production Logistics and Manufacturing to this level of sheer complexity. But it’s damn great you can do this in the game even with all the bugs and things that can still be improved over time fixing the game. As a former EveOnline player that used to do complex planetary production management with lots of spreadsheets, I just marvel at all this in Starfield that someone has figured out and mastered. This video just wins the entire game.
I did this, and yah, you start going insane........
Thanks for documenting your heroic effort!
However, 19 outposts for this is far from optimal. There is exactly one system in the game -- Narion -- that has all required resources, other than solvent and the two uniques, and that's where you want to go. Below is the most efficient setup, it only takes 7 outposts. Even if one builds everything twice, as you do, that's only 14 outposts in total, and a lot less convoluted.
Decaran VII-b: Vytinium -> Grimsey (1 in, 1 out)
Katydid III: Indicite -> Grimsey (1 in, 1 out)
Codos (Cheyenne): Solvent -> Grimsey (1 in, 1 out)
Dalvik (Narion): Caesium -> Grimsey (1 out)
Kreet (Narion): Silver -> Cruth; Helium -> Grimsey, Codos, Decaran VII-b, Katydid III (5 out)
Cruth (Narion): Antimony + Copper + Gold = Zero Wire, Semimetal Wafer -> Grimsey (1 in, 1 out)
Grimsey (Narion): Plutonium + Uranium = Indicite Wafer, Nuclear Fuel Rod, Vytinium Fuel Rod (6 in)
Wow, this is amazing, thank you!!
Great work. I made a comment myself just a while ago asking Kibbles that he should investigate if there is a single 1 system where all this production logistics can take place, thus less relying on Interstellar Cargo Links and the issues you can have with them all and Helium 3. If no such system exist, then keeping it to a minimal if possible to rely on an additional system for the other few resources that would be still ok as it’s minimal. But the setup would be far less chaotic and cleaner. But great work in figuring out much of this can be done in the Narion system.
Great find!
What is the game lag like with all the outposts in such close proximity?
Would anyone happen to know what plant gives solvent on Codos, by chance?
alright I'm doing this. His calls for 3 outposts that each extract silver, copper, and gold. I've spent a total of 8 hours and I have not found a single one yet.
Also, if you level the food proficiency skill(+50%), your exp consumables goes from 2% to 3% exp. Combined with a spouse, it'll give you a nice 18% bonus exp buff. Every little bit helps.
How do you get a spouse.
@@baileyjones1854 raise your affection, or "reputation", with a follower enough and you'll get the option to marry them. There's a skill to speed it up too, first rank of the follower skill (leadership?). Every good deed/selfless act you do, quest you complete, mission board etc gives some affection (I think). Good luck!
@@Easyflux thanks im gonna try but sarah hates me cause i killed a innocent person 🤣
@@baileyjones1854 Yeah, they're all kinda like that, a tad too "goodie two shoes" for some reason 😂
@@baileyjones1854she'll come around..😂 one time I noticed she wasn't following me anymore and I couldn't find her anywhere. So I went searching and I finally found her pouting in the bottom corner of my ship. She wouldn't even tell me why she was mad and what I did. and I literally had no clue. Apparently I must have hit someone with a stray or something cuz I had a murder under my belt and it was the only thing that it could have been. But just like rl she was more mad that I didn't even know .😂
I have the Outpost that gathers 4 of those resources: Aluminium, Iron, Cobalt and Nickel. On Bassel III-B you can get 3 Biom split intersections and the wait time conversion is 1:60 HR, which makes it extremely fast to fill all 4 resources like in 5 seconds 😁
this
U built my outpost here early on, 6 resources in one place. Then when I was sent to Bassel lllb to find the temple it glitched because I had already been to the planet. Couldnt find the temple at all.
He’s good, I swear, thanks for having a good microphone, sounds like a dude I would play with
If you get a bug in your outpost view where you can't place or change anything and you can't use workbenches, a workaround is to quicksave (F5) followed by a quickload (F9). Then it should work again (for a time). I built my own version of this and it was pretty fun. :-)
Also, you can get in you ship, take off, and land again. That fixes it for me every time. But I wish they would patch it.
Oh heads up people. If you end up putting an outpost down by an enemy ship that decides the land near you and occasionally attack you and or glitches your game where all your stuff randomly starts exploding. Just go over when you see them next time land kill them all board the ship kill them all and then just leave The ship seems to just stay there permanently. It at least did for me and I haven't had the issue since
Those ships are way too annoying
Have encountered something similar. Put down an Outpost, pirate ship landed close by just outside Outpost perimeter and where I can easily see it as well. Boarded and killed everyone on the Stiletto ship, but couldn’t captain it even though I’ve also stolen the exact same ship before. So I just decided to just leave the ship there. No other pirate ship has since landed anywhere around the outpost perimeter. However, I do think it has caused some issue in being able to land my own ship at the very same Outpost. Have placed a small and large landing pad but my ship still can’t land at the Outpost, but about 300 meters away in other direction. What I’ve had to do was after building the big landing pad with ability to modify ship, I was able to switch ships as home and it then appeared on the landing pad. Then I just switch back to the ship I wanted. It’s a work around. But I haven’t yet gone back to that outpost yet since to know if landing can now be triggered at the big landing pad. However, in my view out from outpost is the pirate ship as part the landscape view.
lol - got raided by pirates, who got attacked by va'ruun zealots landing in second.... elicpse totally missed the party and showed up like 2-3 days later. man... that day drained all my meds.... lulz - carried and FOUGHT with 50k of weight :p
I spent all evening on the guides from the channel that you mentioned, couldn't make progress, the "beginner" one was so finicky because it requires 5 overlapping resources and 3 overlapping biomes. Finally after feeling myself overheating from the frustration I went to the endgame one since I am level 91. Well then nothing is clear
I got the first step built after less than 20 minutes with your video. So much clearer about what to look for and how etc. thank you!
To reduce lag, minimize cargo links. I do round trips to collect solvent, indicite, vytinium, etc manually. Takes a bit longer but the lag reduction payoff is well worth it
I do the same 😅
I'm going to have to give this a shot, as I'm getting horrible stuttering now.
A tip for those having CARGO LINK problems: A lot of the times, the first time a cargo ship arrives after you activate it, it'll be empty. Wait for it to complete a second trip. Most often, the second time it arrives, it'll have the cargo on it. If it arrives empty a second time, it's time to trouble shoot. But don't think it's bugged just because it arrived empty on its first trip.
yeah, helium 3 gas stations are a must - if you have bottlenecks and links - it's probably the helium.
My cargo mission is bugged out not starting and says 1000/610
I really liked all the supply chain engineering in this process. You performed huge better than real persons in the real world with real problems like that to solve. Thanks so much for share this, I believe that gave you a lot of work to do. I’m looking forward to test something like that and change my current 6K XP/Min farm to it
Thank you, this take you lot of time, 👍
got two hints,
-you can delete landing point by Create and delete outpost, then fly back to the orbit - dont have it confirmed that may broke something
-when I go NG+ (Starborn) somehow my max Cargo Links bugout and I can put max 3/3 (on older save 6/6) with outpost management
Almost every day I make fun of myself for doing this exact level of planing for a video game and then I see I'm not the only one with videos like this and it makes me feel a little better.
Man you are extremely determined I'll give you that. Every single day seems to be a better, different, higher XP farm of some sort lol.
Man, i finally decided to do this because i got bored with doing NG+. Got NG 5 and said screw it. I have never been more frustrated with a planet than Lutana 7-a. I watched and landed meticulously right where you landed, and for the life of me, i could not get gold and silver in the same spot. I could easily get everything but never those 2 together. Argh
I wish the storage containers functioned as one unit if they are grouped together - that way you just need to set one link for input to the group and one output link if you choose. This by far takes up the most time for me when building outposts
That would be great that way you open any of them and see the total storage that are side by side.
Auto-linking storage that physically touch does make plenty of sense than having to link them one by one. I mean, when will you ever put them perfectly side-by-side and not have them have the same mats in them. Hopefully Beth will get that in instead of killing 15-year-old exploits. :)
Same here
True, just like making habs on outpost. They get linked when built next to each other.
Even easier just add like 3x1, 2x2, etc alternative storages, can have them unlocked with research and just have the equivalent weight limit storage of the same number of smaller storages...
I ended up changing the 140k indicite wafer method to send indicite, solvent and caesium, to lantana where the the zero wire and semimetal wafers are being produced, i took advantage of a glitch that let me put outposts overlapping each other and in turn being able to transfer materials from the extra outpost to the original, this lets me have 12 cargo links filling up one outpost, only using 9 currently tho cos lag, im wanna try implement the bug into this method but at this point i wouldnt even know where to start, 10/10 vid, cheers dude
If you are thinking of trying this, step 1 is to go find the 3x triples resources locations on Lantana. This is not easy and will be very time consuming if you are not lucky w rng.
This. I've only managed to find one 😢
This is true, so frustrated
real outpost farming is not for the faint of heart, thanks for the guide brother
You called and I will answer; you're welcome to pin this and have your viewers help dissect what I'll have to say if you'd like, but lets get to it ye? ~
Was anything I said, at any point, wrong? Have you yourself not seen or used even to a lesser extent the very practices I criticize? Because I will say I find it wildly amusing that you mention I'm calling people out but neglect to explain what exactly I called people out for.
Setups may vary, sure and that's something I discuss in the video there are ways to cut down on outposts or further optimize and/or increase production, but the farm and the burst xp are the same - it's just a matter of prolonging the burst window and even still there are ways yet to improve the burst window even more beyond this and you know it but the burst xp range will never change. You didn't even explain how to properly reach the 300k that you advertise but I'll admit I'm happy that at least for once you advocated bed usage instead of the bench(a truly insane hallmark of your past videos, so I appreciate that and finally getting Caesium down and this isn't sarcasm) even if just the bed will never let you reach 300k which you neglect to mentionl.
I don't mind that you've gone and prolonged the burst window and if that's all it were I wouldn't have minded but I don't believe for a second that this video is anything but a response to mine. Adamant as you are in your comments responding to others saying you came up with this on your own, you can at least admit that your video was *heavily* influenced by mine and if you can't do that then I guess I give up here and now on a discussion. File date means nothing and surely you recognize that.
Speaking of calling out though, you are not actually the target of my criticism at the start of my video though you do absolutely have practices I think are BS/bait/etc, I'll just paste a segment from a discussion I had in my comments, below here. In the future, if the shoe fits you're welcome to lace it up and I'll never mind that nor if you want to call me out yourself, but do a better job of it. You wanna say yours is better at least say why yours is better instead of giving a generic "bc I said so" because while I understand what you've done you're misleading the viewers into believing your farm is meaningfully different and depending on the perspective we can argue it is from the idea of a raw xp burst window, it is no different in regards to the end result xp/min which is the benchmark you are so fond of touting, and my video was never about anything but that.
~~~~Segment from comments discussion~~~~
"Presumably you are referencing kibbles. While I do have gripes about him and his practices specifically, he is probably the creator I am the LEAST frustrated with and while he is technically part of all my complaints in some regards, he is NOT my target in the beginning of this video.
If I have 2 major gripes about kibbles, they are the following
1) Video length, given what I just talked about above. A 50min guide makes me want to plant my skull through a wall, especially when it doesn't NEED to be that long. I already wept at how long my own video was which is why I joked about that at the end of the vid, but the length was the bare minimum to achieve everything I wanted to.
2) He stopped at indicite wafers, and I already covered in this video why that seems crazy to me and it just seems like a lot of peeps didn't research properly on what options were available but it is what it is, I feel THIS snark in particular is deserved on all fronts no matter who it is.
Honorable mention) Caesium pronunciation
On the flip side though, Kibbles is actually the ONLY person who actually did their math correctly, if only for their claim(obv not what they showed in game). Indicite wafers do actually net around 140k if I remember right(don't remember exactly what ranges wafers offered but I did obv work out all the possible crafting options before arriving at this setup) and that is the reason kibbles is probably the only starfield creator that gets any amount of respect from me even if his videos make me wanna die."
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Cordially,
-That dude calling out everyone
You and Kibbles are both really really helpfull and great in outposts! Lets stay in peace and create together 500k per minute Farm haha. I look forward for your both creations!!! love
Dude you have main character syndrome, it's not like this guy hasn't been making XP guides since the game came out, naturally stepping up the XP gains everytime, yet you think this is nothing but a response to your vid ?
Thanks for sending me off on an endless quest to find Copper/Silver/Gold in the same vicinity. Been wandering around for hours.
Herherh just follow the split.. i have 3 bases next to eachother, with all 3. and He in 2 of them.. :P
Great video. I watch these when its my turn to cook and do the dishes. Makes the time just fly by. I watched the whole thing. 😊
Kibbles, you’re killing me. You can have more than one outpost on a single world. You only need one antimony world.
Thats what i was thinking
I love how honest he is about the difference between xbox and PC xp.
I took the time to farm up all the mats needed to craft 100 adv-power and OMG does this save time not having to put down thousands of solar and wind gens. Highly recommend!
Thank you for putting the time into this. I was trying to build this but I work full time and had to finally sleep some and couldn’t work it out.
Finally finished this and the game got pretty laggy on my PC, it was really cool to build, but the glitches, slow down, chopiness and stuff made me realize that a smaller build of indicite wafers or something like that would have been better to do(my PC is not the best)..... I feel bad for xbox people and definitely something smaller would work better for people in that situation...... I would like to give 3 tips, 1. there are mods for PC that speed up extractors, increase max outposts and make containers and cargo links hold more items, super helpful..... 2. When you are done and after getting to level 328 to max out all skill points, just unhook/ turn off all cargo links and all the slowdown and chopiness will go away, you do not have to tear down every outpost. I'm keeping mine in case I need to use them again when the DLC comes out. 3. I kept running into different bottlenecks and problems and was getting very frustrated, I added machines, fixed cargo links, added more containers etc... I got it running better, but kept getting bottlenecks of Nuclear rods, plutonium, indicite wafers, cesium, etc..... usually the nuclear rods...... at some point, you should just go to the places that have what has run out and got stuck and just build it yourself and/or bring it there, in about 4-5 hours of doing this along with the main vytinium rods, I got to lvl 328..... I leveled up a lot and got plenty of experience by building indicite wafers, nuclear rods, semimetal wafers, etc...
The cool thing about this is that you really feel like you are getting the most out of the outpost system, if it was less glitchy and my PC was a lil stronger, it probably would have gone down smoother, but it was still a worthwhile project............. If all you care about is leveling up and skill points and you dont want to learn too much about outposts, just do one of the wafers or maybe even adaptive frames in an outpost with macros/ turbo button.............. or command console......
THIS VIDEO IS PURE EVIDENCE THAT THE LEARNIN'S IN SCHOOL IS SOOOO VERY IMPORTANT..... JK'IN BUT NOT.... DUDE THE FORCE IN YOU IS STRONG.... NERD FACTOR LEVEL 10. THIS VIDEO IS JUST GOING TO MELT MANY OF WEAK MINDS...... WELL THOUGHT OUT AND EXPLAINED. GREAT JOB
So I am getting to the end of this awesome thing. If you keep the 4 outposts for other starting build materials you end up with 25 outposts. Guess once the empire is built you won't need them. Except for the Lantana 3 resource bases everything went smooth. It takes time but you can get those bases found.
Just finished my set up as well. If I could do it again I would scout all base locations first and not put build anything at each base until I had all bases situated. Running around encumbered trying to find the perfect Latana locations was painful.
Oh damn. As I'm watching this you casually mentioned something that is probably going to change everything about how I'm doing what I'm doing. I've been thinking that the cargo links are breaking my game, but it may be the fact that I've made gigantic storage containers. The stuttering and freezing has gotten a lot better since I turned off a bunch of my cargo links, but I may be able to improve the situation drastically by rebuilding some of these storage stacks. Hmm
yes 100%
Just a little info for your guys playing on a series X. If your having problems with lag and the game freezing up it's actually all the cargo links that screw it up and not the storage containers. I had this whole thing set up and it was unplayable. I went around and deleted most of the cargo links and it was perfect again. Well is was for me anyways. Hope this helps someone because i was stumped for about a week.
I have got level 338 and got every skill and I'm just amazed there are so many different ways to level up
I found that helium (as a resource )has bug where it randomly disappears from your outpost. Meaning that while on outpost build mode it looks like it's there and you're able to build extractors on the resource node, but if you leave and come back to the planet it disappears and regenerates the resource map within your outpost.
I've encountered that before. Try saving and loading a few times and sometimes that fixes it, but not sure
First off, amazing work. I do think the amount of resources to make all level 3 stuff is understated. Going to try wth lvl 2 shit and see how it compares. Awesome guide!
Two reasons the guy was calling people out. A. Lying about their XP per second, and B lying that indicite wafers were the best thing you can craft for XP. The math joke is hilarious since he was going after the math for the XP so good on you there.
That's insane, i'm not gonna do that, cause it seems like working instead of, you know, playing, but i respect the effort.
Instead of rasalhague II you can use Venus for cobalt and nickel and of course the sleep time
Great video. I believe if you survey the planet completely you get a boost in extraction speed.
This is amazing, I have followed all your outpost guides and completed them all and on xbox which is worst with the lag.
I guess this one is the final mission and I am going to complete it and report back. I like you enjoy this more than the story itself and I am already on Ng+ with all levels max too which took me around 240 temples lol. Anyways, this is awesome
I thought about learning how to do this but now I'm just watching in awe. 😂
A suggestion for the first outpost instead of Andraphon, go to Bessel 2-A. It has iron, aluminum, cobalt, and nickel. I find it's much better for the initial stages.
I don’t know if my Xbox can handle this lol the 140k farm starting to make it crash. Huge respect to you for all the time and effort you put into this
Optimize everything you can. Eg use nuclear reactors instead of a million solar panels, large cargo instead of the smaller. Also the bottleneck is cargo links, so there's no point extracting 10000kg of one resource if the cargo can only take 500kg or whatever it is
That is a seriously badass setup. Would not the big fusion generator help with lag and freeze,instead of all the wind and solar or split the two. Great video
Would be nice to see you take that max character through thw dialogue of different missions. Great vids! Keep them up!
didnt know i needed a masters degree to follow that flow chart
A challenge for Kibbles would be can he find 1 single system where it’s possible to do all this where there is no need to rely on Interstellar Cargo Link. Or as less as possible in the logistics chain. It would likely require a system with lots of planets and moons with a diverse array of resources across the entire system to start with.
Narion has the silver, gold, antimony, copper, uranium, caesium and plutonium. Then you just import the Solvent from Cheyenne-Codos, the Indicite from Katydid-Katydid III and the Vytnium from Decaran-Decaran VII-b. I am not sure how to balance the quantities required for each stage, but it should be simple enough to keep each individual resource and produced item in their own storage, so you do not end up with items hogging all the space.
@@stevenmiles441 Thanks for the feeedback and help. Keeping all this in mind for a setup. I think it just be fun to try. It's a lot of time to do. But i'm an old EVEOnline player that played that spreadsheet game with Industrial Research, Production and Planetary Resources, so i don't mind if it takes long to do. Its just the fun of it all in making a game out of it as something to work towards as if its a quest in itself with the production objective. So much thanks for pointing out the resources and locations outside of Narion. However, so far it seems like that system is Narion to reduce the reliance on Cargo Link Interstellar.
@@stevenmiles441this advice was a game changer for me. Thanks! Literally everything except for 3 things are in Narion.
Also if you have high starship engineering there’s an 124k cargo ship guide, just look it up
Can you link 124k cargo ship vid plz I seen one with no shields no weapons ship was ridiculous 😂
I can save you the time of watching that video... just add cargo modules til you have 120k+. You're welcome. Building ships is like playing with legos. You shouldn't need a guide to do it.
@@broadsidedarth7801 I don’t like virtual legos but I do like kibbles videos so I’ll wait and watch the video 2x once for me and once for you.Ty tho
I liked your videos from the beginning...also saw the other video. But your version looks better - I try your one! True Kibbles follower ;)
Thanks!
I loved both, especially how both are very dedicated to the best xp farm with no exploits.😂❤
GOSH DARNIT, I just finished the 140k per minute farm
when i first start a ng+ now, I go to an outpost and tag all the things i need to build level 3 extractors, robots, reactors, greenhouses and anything i need for a generic outpost. Then those items are highlighted for the rest of the game, and i buy all of them from every vendor i run into while i play. once you do the research to unlock the higher end modules, things get easier.
so.. kibbles..
I get you. I did a vyntium rod plant on my last NG+, and i felt like I had conquered the outpost part of this game. I did mine different, and i never paid attention to the amounts coming in from each cargo link, but i got it to work.
Id recommend that you now try the bio version of the same base. Anyone can see in the industrial workbench that there are quite a few other items that require a rare bio component. one of those may yield even greater results.
I also want to add in something since you mentioned you had a freighter ship at the beginning of the video. Vyntium is a limiting factor for xp in this farm, and it wouldnt hurt to pick up and transport your own load of say.. 20k vyntium when you go to make the final load of xp.
the problem with doing that for vytinium is that the only fast way to pick up the vytinium is to build a quick outpost of it then delete the outpost. Vytinium actually isn't a limiting factor at all in this farm, I just have a sleeping bag next to the workbench and sleep for 2 hours between crafts and all my vytinium storage is full again. Also I was thinking about doing other ones for fun at some point, but damn the amount of time these late game ones take is absolutely crazy. This one took 10 hours of research and planning and then 30 hours or something to make it, record the clips, do the video editing, etc. But I will try to do more stuff in the future.
@@VideoGameDataBank I was in the process of re-doing this base.. when I've suddenly become hit with the outpost management bug and can no longer create more than 3 cargo links, only 3 robots... blah blah....
oh well. Hopefully it isnt months before this gets patched.
Holy crap, anyone else have a headache? Good video.
Still limited to how fast fuel rods ship with this setup.
One plutonium line can supply three rod lines (187 Pu : 60*3 rods) unfortunately two wafer lines then becomes the limiter bringing in only 75*2.
That setup still increases the xp per hr by 25% being able to turnover 150 units per shipment vs the 120 with equal lines.
Theoretical maximum units per line is sending packets of 28 Pu, 28 nuc rod, 28 wafer resulting in 168 units turned over per shipment per outpost.
However achieving that max has proven challenging to source the correct resources to produce all from single outposts such that packets can actually be sent in the correct ratio.
For only a 12% xp/hr gain over the semi-optimal 150 units per shipment of 1Pu:2wafer:3nuc rods incoming to each vytinium outpost.
I wish to use this some time, but I don't feel like dealing with bugs and troubleshooting. Creation engine really show it's age.
I used this method to reach lvl 182 then I fully deleted every outpost I owned to remove game lag. I suggest you do the same but maybe don't level as high as I did, instead find out a better perk tree to spend levels.
Great guide, I might do this close to end-game. So if you had played the game for any length of time you would have heard them pronounce Tranquilitea and realized that it says TEA at the end. Other than that great vid. I'm glad you had fun turning fallout in space into an arguably less-good satisfactory. Have you tried Satisfactory?
I tip my hat to you dude. That’s one epic project to undertake. WOW
This guide is another banger bro! Thanks for the info.!
How much storage did you end up pruning at the end and what outposts did you prune? I’m having an issue with my game freezing on Xbox. I’ve got a few outposts in the same landing area but I don’t think it’s more than 2 or 3, each on different planets.
No cap, I love this man! Thank you for the builds!!!
Is there a substitute world for Latana 7? I have been looking for 4 days for a spot with Copper/Silver/Gold and can't find a single one. I only find Copper/SIlver/Lead or Copper/Gold.
I can't build this. Not because I can't follow the guide, it's very well done and easy to follow, it's because my game can't handle it. I play on the xbox series s and the last xp farm broke my game. It freezes every few seconds. The game can't handle that much stuff going on in the background.
Thanks loads for this enjoyed doing this for the last few days.. although the stuttering and general stalling of the game from all the storage/cargo links is annoying. I think I need to go back and tidy everything alot! I have over done it with the storage too, amazing stuff though and thank you :). my biggest issue I think is my Latana 7, I built all 3 in the same instance spot (finding those copper/gold/silver ones in multiple instances was a pain compared to running along a found border) and those are constructing both simple and advanced fabricators.. you can stand on the middle outpost and watch all the transport links taking off and setting down from all 3! would be great if it didn't slow it down so much. thanks once again :) *Edit,, fun bits in the tips where i built all 3 latina big builds in the same landing instance means you have to visit one of them or it stops filling up with Antomoly. tried making a 3rd antomol outpost thinking output was down but that made no odds.. one of those 3 big boys got to go! :) thanks once again .
One thing i learned while farming minerals at my outpost is you need a LOT of storage as i see you too have lol they clog up pretty quickly 😂
fortunately, I saved all my indicite wafers from the 140xp farm in the safe at the lodge. so I already have 700k of thise to use.
Thats fucking amazing man… great job man… I’m trying to watch the full video for the 3rd time just make sure I got all the info… thanks man
The katharsis of watching you knock this out is wonderful. Congratulations on hitting that point where you're satisfied with maximizing outpost production for XP.
Comboing that with the venus trader trick should make for easy access to all the money you'd ever need in a single universe.
Would it be worth going through and tagging the consumption of each outpost in terms of materials and optimizing further to only have say, 3-4 large storages for each material? As an example: use top tier resource gatherers, minimize the count needed for each base, and include top generators with their he3 consumption in the calculation for each he3 world to eliminate solar and wind altogether in those spaces. That way each location will have the absolute minimum number of objects built per location until you hit the final two outposts for max xp and min lag.
Oh, and because my memory sucks, now I always have 1 small box on the input to my storage stacks, and two small boxes on the output. Makes it really easy for me to see what I'm doing.
Did this off Vash Cowaiis. Thank you for filling in any blanks.
Kibbles be talking as fast as the Micro Machines guy. Maybe some of y'all are too young to know what I mean. But if you know, you know.
This is so funny the comment. So you know if your aware of the micro machines commercials that you’ve been around in the early 80s-90s seeing all the toys commercials 😂. Those were always so funny. But yeah, Kibbles talk so fast, his brains can barely keep up with what he’s saying.
Thats insane. Props man u deserve it
Why not mine the silver, gold, antimony, copper, uranium, caesium and plutonium in the Narion system, and then import the Vytnium from Decaran, Solvent from Cheyenne, and the Indicite from Katydid?
That's exactly what I did and I'm doing all manufacturing on one single outpost for Vytinium fuel rods as the ultimate. I did consider creating manufactured items on separate planets but it seems a needlessly complicated solution.
Wowzers! Amazing stuff and so, so complicated... which is exactly what I'm looking for! I'm several hundred hours in and need things to focus on and once I start my "Miner Guy", I'll be doing that.
Of course, it's a double-edged sword because once I DO get to max level I'm not sure I'll have an incentive to continue playing which will make me sad...
You use the best extractors whilst also using the worst options to generate power. Make it make sense.
Kibbles Gaming did you see someone glitched the game a little from your ship glitch yesterday to make it even faster!?
Loved this video well worth the watch!
I did not see that, I would love to find out more about that, fast ships are fun.
Bruh!! This is friggin awesome 👌
You definitely need to get over that solar thing. Lol
Did this on xbox, game lags like crazy. It gets a bit better when you go around getting mats instead of the cargo links. But in the end its not worth it for me. Managed to do it then deleted most outposts. Beat the game.
I couldn't even do the last farm on the series s without major freezing problems on the series s.
Same! The old farm was causing constant freezing on Series X. This is even bigger so it's not worth trying.
I love to hear more about the math on how long every thing takes to build a and ship
damn thank youfor all the HOURS on HOURS it took to do this for us, i find the other creator didnt explain it as well as you did. im stuck right now having such a hard time finding an outpost location on lantana 7 that has the silver with the copper and gold.
took me 2 hours but i finally found a spot to use... i wonder whats better spending the time finding a spot like this or just separate outpost where you get more of the main resource
Huge problem with cargo links is that the outgoing and incoming has a 500 limit so it can get “clogged” with something that wasn’t supposed to be in the supply line (liquid instead of solid) so then it just bugs the cargo link and being stuck
easiest fix i found for that is using single material cargo link posts. never have problems with systems that bring in a bunch of materials from other outposts anymore, but yeah, was a huge problem before for me as well.
This video is when Starfield Outposts become like EveOnline with full spreadsheet because production and manufacturing gets so complicated.
Thank you for the guide. Do you have problems with lagg having so many links?
I am new to the game and just started playing it. Been watching a lot of your videos and sub'd as well. Just a small question, kind of stupid though, is there a way to collect from containers that are linked or do you have to go to each storage to collect the resources?
Couldn't you make one final outpost near a city with vendors that has a cargo link to deliver all the fuel rods to so you could pick them up and just go to the vendor?
Ima gonna break this game over my knee now that I'm rested... Kibbles, probably.
This is next level.
Now im going back to grind out adaptive frames ... 😢
I’m not going to even attempt this. I got the Adaptive Frame and the other thing down combining Copper and Beryllium. Just attempting to do half the stuff will kill my PC and that’s no pun at all as it’s still running a GTX 1080. I’ve been too busy playing the game to take the time I should be doing to install the new AMD RX 6800 and the Rysen CPU. Both down time to install and fix any new issues. But my game can’t handle this kind of Outpost complexity. Can literally hear the game stutter before the usual crashes and have to restart game with current pc rig setup.
@ardentdfender4116 what's the copper and Beryllium thing? Link?
@@paihobbes8680 It's the "Tau Grade Rheostat" made at the Industrial Workbench. just like Adaptive Frames with only require 1 of each of two resources, making Tau Grade Rheostat only require 1 Copper and 1 Beryllium which are all very common resource if your doing Outpost resource extraction. It has a value of x3 Adaptive Frame. So it also sells for more. I tend to make a lot of these for XP, but they do come in handy making other suff. I just put down a Blue Plastic Bin next to the workbench and they when i finish making hundreds of these just like Adaptive Frames, i just stand next to the Blue Plastic Bin and drop them all into the Blue Bin. They like small disks, so they don't take up much space in the Bin visually. Surely not as compared to Adaptive Frames which i have a Blue Bin complete full of. However, If you haven't sold off lots of your Adaptive Frames, they do come quite in handy by the boat load when your upgrading your Storage Containers to lvl 2+.
I appreciate your hard work!
Guide so detailed. Outposts so streamlined
Thanks!
That guy on that other video did call everyone out. It was funny.
whats fun is when all your storage containers show empty with 1234567890 on their display, then you have unlimited of whatever is in that storage chain
I've been waiting a week and a half for your more xp than 140000 build
This one is just too much. My series X was just like "NOPE"...😂😂
Great job! What a pain in the ass this is, been at it a few days and am at the connection phase. Already finding jacked up red lines on places. Its been fun though, aboit as deep into the mechanics as you can get w this.
Is there a workaround for andromas VI-A cause your not getting both of those resources in one outpost? They are on opposite side's of the planet.
There’s literally solar systems to explore and pirates to shoot - these rival content creators:
Literal equivalent of cabbage farmers bickering over where and when is the best way to grow cabbages in Skyrim as dragons fly in the sky
Indicite - Ihn dih site
Cheyenne - Shy enn
Antimony - An tihm oh knee
Katydid - Kay tee did
Thank you. Seems like no one knows how to use a dictionary these days.
If you are on console, keep your storage connection clean and limited otherwise your game performance will take a major drop