AAA champs 1500 Coe v Ovett + interviews - 1989
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- Опубликовано: 29 май 2017
- AAA champs 1500 Coe v Ovett + interviews - 1989
Seb Coe and Steve Ovett were two of Britain’s most inspirational runners, and given the fact that they came to prominence around the same time meant that head-to-heads were an athletics promoters dream. They happened very rarely, and the outcomes were invariably unexpected.
For those of you who don’t know the history (track performances only):
They met in the European 800 metres in Prague in 1978. Coe lead through a very fast first lap, before being overhauled by a stronger Ovett late on. And that was that until………. Both were overhauled by East German Olaf Beyer, close to the finish. Beyer produced nothing of note before, or after.
They met in both the 800 and 1500 metres in Moscow in 1980. Coe was the favourite for the 800, being the world record holder, and super miler Ovett was favourite for the 1500. In two very tactical battles, they each won the other’s favoured event.
In 1984 in Los Angeles, Coe again won silver at 800 and gold at 1500, but in more predictable and happy times. Sadly, however for Ovett, respiratory problems brought on by the prevailing smog led to him being a shadow of himself, and he spent many hours in hospital.
This last meeting, in the AAA Championships of 1989, was the most controversial meeting of them all. The race was a trial for the upcoming Commonwealth Games (in January 1990 in Auckland). Coe was in pretty good shape, but Ovett was not. The race itself was, like many championship 1500 metres, a tactical event, with lots of pushing and shoving, with an inevitable fall. The interviews which followed show a side of the sport you don’t often see.
Seb Coe gave a really polished performance, and you can see the speed of thought and diplomatic awareness which were to become a hallmark of his future political career.
Steve Ovett, by comparison, was an emotional wreck. The 1980s were a pivotal time in our sport. The 1970s had still being primarily amateur, but here you had Ovett being paid and Coe not being paid. If you think that’s bizarre, let me explain that part of the attraction of these two is the fact that they didn’t race each other. So, to get them together, even in the twilight of their careers, was huge!
The final interview is with Andy Norman, easily the most influential person in UK athletics at the time.
The 1980s were often described as a golden decade for British Athletics, but there was much to worry about in our sport (Olympic boycotts in 1980 and 1984), endemic drug abuse, highest profile Ben Johnson, but don’t forget the Berlin Wall didn’t fall till virtually the end of the decade, so Russia and East Germany were regarded as two athletic superpowers.
This tape is included for its symbolic content, rather than it being an outstanding contest. Coe and Ovett never met in track competition again. Coe did go to the Commonwealth Games, but was unwell and did not medal.
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A great, brave , caring , man Steve Overt.
We need more like him.
What a gentleman Ovett was and Coe conducted himself well also.
Coe was one of my sporting heroes growing up
And he was clean, was'nt he ?
@@seamusmccartin9683 sometimes he had a bit of a stubble but yeah besides that he was generally a clean person I believe
Remarkable comeback, Seb has the greatest form ever, born to run, this race came at a cost was one of his last.
Truely the two greatest ever middle distance runners Steve Ovett and Seb Coe with courage and honesty never seen again since. I salute you Steve.....Seb your win after what occurred is something only real champions can achieve I am absolutely honoured to have been running with you.
Yes
I always thought Steve Ovett was slightly arrogant - until i met him and ran with him in a charity race. He couldn't have been nicer or a better sport. Lovely guy. Given that I don't think he ever ran another relay, I may be the only person who can say "I passed the baton to Steve Ovett".
That was very good of Steve Ovett to be so honest and open about the politics
God bless Steve Ovett
Not always been a fan of Coe - especially his politics but I liked his respect for Ovett in the interview and Ovett's gentlemanly gesture both went up in my esteem.
coe is a beast
Excellent athletes both of them! I was still in school watcing them extinguishing and they were my heroes. Sebastian Coe was a phenomenon! I think that he was the best of the best of all times in these distances (800 m, 1.500 m, mile). Greetings from Greece.
We had three world class middle distance runners in the eighties and I loved every second of every race.in fact these guys inspired me to take up running as a hobby and to get fitter. Obviously not in this league. Good days and good memories.
Coe and Ovett! 2 greats. Its sad to see him crying, seems like a genuine guy!
The only person who comes out of this video with no credit whatsoever is Andy Norman. He deceitfully pretended the payment issue didn't exist.
Hats off to Seb for both the recovery and the respect shown to Steve. Ultimate respect to Steve for his principled stand to defend the sport he loves and his fellow athletes - what a man.
Crabb fall and an incredible last lap from Coe. What a race.
Thank you very much for posting this in full. I remember it so well. Knowing Steve Ovett's character and integrity, there is no doubt in my mind that Andy Norman was being utterly deceitful here. Aside from the actual race, which was pretty exciting, this was one of the blackest moments in British Athletics' history, and it was all down to Norman - one of the highest ranking officials corrupting the sport.
I think part of his tears were because he knew he was well past is best in the 1500m and that his wonderful career was nearly over. We've all had that feeling - what next?
What next ? ......... well we haven't had the likes of Coe , Ovett or Cram in the last 30 years now . I don't think our athletes now are getting anywhere near the times they were knocking out , or even the lesser lights of that era - Elliot , McKean and more. In the middle distances unfortunately GB have gone backwards .
Yes we have gone backwards in the 800 - 1500 distances and I just can't see where the next star is coming from. Perhaps getting three outstanding runner at nearly the same time was a fluke. Perhaps there is someone great out there who doesn't even do athletics at the moment.
@yortzandat Certainly a very good runner but at 23 his times are nowhere near where Coe's were at the same age
@@ewaf88 A rare alignment like the Beatles!
Class act from Coe on and off the track
Steve ovett one word. LEGAND
Ovett is a true gentleman and I grew up running and racing with Coe-Ovett as my heroes. And Ovett is an amazing commentator now too, the best to do color commentary in track by far
Jim Mason Hi. I’ve never heard his commentary. What channel does he commentate on? I’ve heard Steve Cram a lot though.
Jim Mason Both Ovett & Coe are amazing runners 🏃🏻!!!!! Unfortunately, there wasn’t the higher appearance fees that would be coming later on for other track athletes. Watch the movie on the life of Steve Prefontaine. He, Frank Shorter, Mac Wilkins & others fought a greedy & corrupt AAU (they always built the lie that American athletes had to live in poverty while they lived in luxury - from money that was supposed to be given to those American athletes). This was a Golden age of British running. What they did was very inspirational.
@@iancarter4196 yes.
.ovett was the inhouse commentator for itv throughout the early mid 1990s im sure...he disappeared after that to auatralia i think he must have been commentating there cos i havnt heard him in the uk for 25 years...unless hes on eurosport??? Could someone clear u0 the mystery?
Even as an older athlete, Seb demonstrates the heart of an an all-time great. As good a kick as any runner who has graced a track. Seb and Steve were class acts to boot. Steve deserved better than this betrayal. We will be hard pressed to see two better runners than these two Englishmen.
Back in the day it was always are you a Coe or Ovett fan? I never understood why you had to choose. And I still love watching them both on RUclips. And it's worth mentioning some of the other UK athletes who made up the 'Golden Age' - Dave Moorcroft, Steve Cram, Peter Elliot, Tom McKean, Graham Williamson & John Robson et al. Happy days!
Ovett and Coe were great role model for British athletes and i grew up watching both of them excelling. Ovett was my favourite though. That guy was lying through his teeth!
OVETT, COE CRAM was a phenomenon that won’t be repeated. Ovett and Cram are now the best two commentators by far in athletics.
I was actually really surprised to hear Cram commentating a race as early as this. He’s made some of the most iconic athletics moments of my generation even better
There was also Peter Elliot, silver in the 1988 Olympics and 1987 World Championship.
@@downtherabbithole1353 no doubt a champion in his own right - 1990 commonwealth 1500m champion. Just not quite a world record breaker
Don't forget peter elliott !
Great runners, not sure about the commentators bit!!
Very caring compassionate decent fella Steve Ovett & good on him 4 turning the cash down .
Those folk who offered the cash should've be banned 4 life from Athletics .
Ovett and Coe should have met in the 1988 1500m AAA final.........Ovett won his semi final, Coe didn’t qualify.......Ovett finished 4th in the 1988 final, nearly qualified for Seoul .....so close Steve......always my favourite as a kid......
It had to be Steve Crab!! 😂😂😂
Vengo cada cierto tiempo a ver este video, me impresiona cada vez que lo veo, de otro mundo Seb Coe.
fast forward to today and if you don't front up the $ then Usain Bolt just doesn't get out of bed
It’s not fair to hark on about this race as Coe v Ovett. Ovett (post LA Olympics) was not able to compete at this level and only competed for his love of running. Coe wasn’t so great himself but still able to win domestic races of this ilk. If you’re going to compare Seb and Steve at this stage in their careers, people should also take into account that Ovett was winning AAA 800 metres in 1974, a good three to four years ahead of Coe’s emergence.
After LA Coe was ranked #1 in '86 over 800m as well as European champion over the distance. He was also the fastest in the world over 1500m in 86 - 3:29.77. The year this was run he won silver in the 1500m World Cup and was the 2nd fastest in the world over 800m (1:43.38). So while he wasn't at his career peak and you are correct to say that this shouldn't be labeled as a 'Coe v Ovett' clash, Coe was still better than just winning 'domestic races' like this.
@@deano27671agree he was top 2 or 3 globally, sad they robbed him of a Olympic 88 chance at 1500m- I think he’d of medaled in the 800m and maybe gold again in the 15. A great 1500m runner
@@APBCTechniqueHe robbed himself of the chance - he went to altitude and didn't time his comeback to sea level correctly so bombed out in the trials. He tried to give himself an advantage and I'm afraid it back fired. He knew what the rules were, that he had to finish in the top two as Steve Cram was a certainty to be offered the third and final spot. Also, he ruled himself out of running in the 800m in Seoul even before the trials.
I enjoyed the video! Keep it up!
MisterBassBoost Watching the greatest of all time Steve Ovett in tears is tough to watch.
Fantastico Sebastian! Mio idolo da bambino!
Ovett’s was at his best 1977-1980 amazing in a 1500m in 1977 with john walker running a 11.9 100m on the bend. This is the back end of ovett’s career
Strangely enough Cram was the youngest of the three and yet he was finished as an athlete before this race took place!
Knew about this race but not about the controversy. Interesting stuff.
For years trying to make this race happen .ten years too late they should off raced as arranged at Zurich 1979 in the race coe broke 1500 metres world record to become the first Britain to officially hold that record and I think BBC showed Zurich live
Coe with a pulled hamstring and hurdling Cram. Ovett and others got pushed and what a slow pace for these guys. Great race no matter the chaos. Ovett’s honesty and class are not normal now and show a decency that like Seb said lifts him in my opinion as well.
*Crabb*
Steve CRAM was younger than Coe and Ovett at that time and if he was running would have beaten than both , but Steve CRABB wrecked the race like an idiot and crossed over barging in knocking Coe for six
He really was the Best! And that incident shows it!!
Seb Coe is my favourite. Awesome result 2 come back from there
What an athlete Coe was - and Ovett too.
Sebastian Coe was a special athlete
That was a Tough Gritty Win from Seb Coe . Tough race 4 Ovett .
I wished they had raced each other as planned in Zurich 1979 . At the height of the Coe ovett drama when both in
There was an idea for them to have a three race series in 1981 over 800m/3000m/Mile but sadly nothing came of it.
@@paulwilliams8389 that it I remember the radio times had a picture of both hoping to racing each other at crystal palace over 3,000 m .I don't no if it was this but I remember it was going to happen. and also Zurich 1979 Coe 1500 metres world record run ovett last minute pulling out .
Seb should have run 3.27 that day.
I hope and think we will see a return to the high profile type of competition and media attention that is represented by great runners such as Coe, Cramer and Ovett, as well as Liqouri, Ryun and Prefontaine.
Its CRAM and he was nt running in that race , Steve CRABB was though
Coes last lap was about 50-51 off a shaky start. And this 3:29.67 CR was probably the WR at one point in time. Incredible.
3.29.67 wasn't the CR (Championship Record) it was the British record and was the WR in 1985. When this race was run it was still the number 2 time ever run (only Aouita had beaten it). Not sure why they ever claimed it was the CR
@@jasonstewart9919 CR probably stood for 'Commonwealth Record', which it was in 1989. The 3:29.67 was Cram's pb (UK record) from 85, although Coe almost broke it with 3:29.77 in 86.
Andy Norman...as corrupt as they come!
Mi inspiración personal para rematar y vaya que me dio frutos en lo personal esa inspiración : Sebastián Coe
Why was Steve Halliday disqualified when he had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with what happened?
Remember this race at the time
At this stage both were back numbers, their best years well behind them
Sebastian Coe: Double Olympic Champion 🥇🥇
Seb Coe my hero
This should of happened in 1983 in the UK I remember the radio times cover of both to run Crystal palace in same race,not 100% about year
Sebastian Coe fenomeno!!!!
Guess is the official is lieing. Ovett has always been genuine and open and just speaks his mind.
Such a shame the camera angle changed on the back straight as it doesn't give you the impact of Coe's comeback.
either steve ovett or the official lieing. But I don't know what is going. Painful seeing Ovett in tears. Something made him upset.
Andy Norman as corrupt as as they come offered Ovett money to run and he wasn’t fit to race. Norman wanted the UK Coe Ovett clash and a
‘full house’ Ovett is not a liar type person - honest as they come
Why the hell was steve halliday disqualified???
Coe was a god
Only one God, my (dear fallow).
@@seamusmccartin9683 you must be god the way you're dictating the your truth
@@shangrila73eldorado ....but a modest one !!!
Coe no es de este mundo.
Ovett, grandioso.
If Coe had his time in today's era he would be in the 1:39s bracket.
Not sure about 1:39, but with today's tracks and the new 'super shoes' he would certainly be the WR holder if running today in his 81 form.
I doubt that anyone could run 1 min 39 but I'm sure he could potentially beat Rudisha's record.
I still don't fully understand Ovett's point of view. He was offered money, he turned it down. So why, if he knew he wasn't in the greatest shape, did he compete in this event at all?
I will never understand how Coe was left out of the 88 Olympic team.
I still say the same thing about Roger Black's non-selection in 1998.
I'm afraid it was his own fault. He did altitude training before the trials and didn't give his body time to readjust to running at sea level again so bombed out in the heats. He knew that he had to finish in the first two at the trials (which he surely would have managed without altitude training) because Steve Cram was a cert for the the third spot on the team.
failed basketball players, big lugs, muck up the works - plus reinstating some runners eliminated from heats for falling, of all things. Ovett looked good in the heats, but this isn't the 1500m steeplechase, or body-hurdles race, it's a flat fifteen. Crabb tried to slow the race down, understandably given how he lacks a quick finish. But he cut in too soon, colliding from in front with Morrell behind which started the whole mess. From what I've heard, Mr. Norman wasn't honest in what he related.
Ovett should have run 3.26 in this race
Francis Hooton really
Did any of these guys were ever tested positive (+)? cz they have such a stamina