Modern Trim - How To
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2024
- Trimless doors, and flush base. Achieving the modern details in this home designed by baldridgeARCHITECTS
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Glad he went through the whole video over-explaining the whole process only to not show the finished product. Thanks guy.
Hi Matt, great video. I've done flush baseboards on one of my projects using Trim-Tex 1/2" reveal bead. Turned out amazing. Takes a lot of extra work and effort for a modern finish like this. But the finished product puts a home or business above the rest. IMO.
I also ended up putting insulation in between each stud where the flush baseboards are. In order to reduce and minimize any sound transfer from room to room. Take care, -Paul
I love how your background has a builders/electricians scribbling about a “fart fan” on it.
I was terrified you were gonna show a finished product. Thank you for sparing me.
Byron Welichko LMAO!!!!
Legendary
lol
😂😂😂😂😂
Hahahaha so true - why make a video and not show e end result. Idiots
Thanks Matt! Your first video on the flush base got us going. It was tough explaining to guys that like to put base over drywall. We did a reveal throughout our renovation. It's not perfect, but I think the overall look turned out nice ... even if it's not perfect. We did use the plasic Trim-Tex F Reveal. In all not an easy technique and it defintely takes some extra pre-planning and coordination, but worth it for the modern look.
Great video Matt, adding it to my saved list of videos to reference back to when my house goes up.
As a painter, I would love to shake the carpenter's hand who does this quality of work!
Great, informative video! Wow - I wish these types of videos were available before I had started my cottage project 🙄. I’ve been using various Fry Reglet trim extrusions for reveals as well as wall transitions (between dry wall and interior wood siding), with very little useful reference material out there. I also couldn’t find any Drywallers with any experience using these materials, so I’ve ended up dealing with it all myself 🤨. Your hung drywall looks beautiful 👍. Symmetric screw locations and clean lines, etc. You can tell that they care!
Love the vídeos Matt, the discussions it brings.
Just what i was looking for matt! thank you! now im back to the drawing table!
Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you!
That's gonna look incredible and super clean!
+Jeremy Eisenhut yeah baby!
Jeremy Eisenhut Crisp!
oh yes!
By the way, this jamb detail is very popular used in UK and looks beautyfull. This alu trim is called 'shadow gap trim' it usually is done by dryliners( extremely experienced, of course). Also I have done it in different colors and looks amazing.
Nice. I have a house coming up next month I will be trimming like this.
Renovations so boarders have been in and trimmed all the drywall up 7” and took the drywall back to the next closest stud. I’ll hang the doors with 1-1/2” jambs with the stops machined in the jambs then the baseboards. Tapers will be adding a 1/2x1/2”reveal. Can’t wait to do this one
Anyone else notice "fart fan" written on the wall at 0:54? Very professional!
Love the look. Love the show
As an experienced drywaller/taper I would not use any metal bead like this, they are much more likely to pop than any other type of bead. Besides that if you want the most crisp edge buy Fast Mask from trim tech. You put it on and coat it and then it had a peel away strip on the edge for when you are done. It will keep all of the mud off of your door casing and windows as well as leave a perfect clean edge.
We hadn't heard of this metal bead product so achieved similar result by rabbeting outer edge of jamb for consistent reveal, then trimming drywall with standard metal bead.
Pure quality and beuty!
Man never even thought any of this. Never heard of a reglet. So cool!
In the future, can you please do a start to finish video like this for exterior sheathing and insulation that you do on your houses?
I'll put that in the hopper, good video idea
enjoy your videos man, I'm a full time college student and full time carpenter but always got time to watch your videos during lunch
+Jony Negreros that's awesome! Thanks for watching
Matt Risinger hope you can come to the los Angeles build expo one day, i am going next week!
Matt: Can you direct me to the finished product? I'd love to see it finished out.
Great Video. I especially love the words on the wall Fart Fan!
It's going to look awesome!
(2 years later ...*crickets*)
Please show finished results.
If you look at the other video he did that he mentions in the early part of the video you can see finished casing and baseboards like he is talking about in this video.
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FarmerSarducci USE URE IMAGINATION
Kriz lee p
i rebuilt my bedroom in a totally trimless design. was literally one of the most frustrating and time consuming things of my life. but it looks SO GOOD when its done lol
Headles Norseman How about a pic?
Greatest thing about this video is that he's going into detail about how precise and flush everything's going to be, and all the attention to detail that is going to make it look amazing. Then some electrical guy writes "fart fan location" on the drywall. Lol
Nice job Matt. I put reglets in my house at the bottom of drywall where it meets the concrete floors and regret not having the finish carpenters install it. The drywallers really struggled to get clean joints and complained about it the whole time! I had to give them lessons in mitering joints!
@David Anewman fryreglet.com/
Worth noting that in addition to the edge profile trims, Fry Reglet also has a trimless door kit available for a true no-frame look.
+Tory Schulz thanks. Didn't know that
Was I the only one SLIGHTLY distracted by Matt’s Black Eye and the Fart Fan graffiti’d by the Electrician in the bathroom behind him? Matt - did you get in a fight over a fart fan? :-)
Would have been nice to see final look.
You the man thanks for the lessons
Probably looks good, if you could see a finished example...Mistake number one hire a producer that knows the sequences of a dynamic fully completed video. When demonstrating “how to video” you must incorporate the image of the finished subject being talked about, it is imperative or you have just wasted every bodies time.. Muding /sanding and painting must be a disaster trying the protect the wood, painting the 1/4gap between the wood jamb and visuals of light passing through the gap when the door is closed??? All questions you haven’t addressed in the video.
"it is imperative"...shut up dude go do your own builds then take the weekend to make how-to videos bc Matt is a full time GC. Matt, love your videos and am sending this clip to my architect for a build up in North Carolina. Go Longhorns.
Looks like he and the producer fought about it. Builder lost and finished with black eye.
@Gary Miller You're an egg
Builder by day, MMA fighter at night.
Great video. I learned a lot. You guys also write the word fart fan on the drywall in the background over your right shoulder at the end. Added bonus.
Well done sir 👍🏻
As an aspiring architect, this channel is super cool! I've done remodels in the past and now I want trimless doors!
+Cameron Hemenway fantastic! Glad you are enjoying our content
When the door frame was installed where are the shims? Would the 1/4" reveal not expose some of the shimming locations?
Any details how the mudding worked around door jam?
Nice shiner. Must've gotten into an argument with an old school traditional builder.
+95thousandroses that's fantastic. Yes. That's my new line!
How did you protect your doors during construction from damage and moisture? I Will be building in the Texas climate as well.
Thanks for the great idea Matt!
Installed this in a commercial building in Houston Texas, my oh my it is such a pain. To get it perfect
You can do some really interesting stuff like this by getting creative with the Schluter catalog. Tons of options.
thanks I can't wait to make my house look nice BRO!
What a shiner
the shadow bead looks great, but it is a pain to work with. the r/o needs to be closer to the jamb so the channel has a nailer, your jamb needs to be thick so the screws in the hinges don't stick out of the back of the jamb and interfere will the channel. every wall needs to be pirfectly plumb, or the doors and the channel don't end up flush.
Hi Matt, great video!
Can I ask, how is the door liner fit onto the framing? Is it just screwed/nailed and then filleted over? Or is there a trick fixing method?
I have done about a dozen houses with either this exact detail or something very similar. It is a total pain in the but to make these look good. Lots of coordination, craftsmanship, and attention to detail are needed. Architects who design these houses get cursed at daily by the guys who build them...
Jeff Meagher
you read my mind bud! dealing with a finiky fartitect with a degree in spendgineering right now. loves to get his way or its the highway
Jeff Meagher I've done 2 houses with this detail in metal and one house in plastic. Plastic fry reglet is sooooo much easier. This channel is only semi pro. 5/8 drywall and 5/8 trim, when you add the fry reglet you're now proud of the trim and looks so bad
Jeff Meagher
You must charge way more for such detailed work right? if so how much more? 2x, 3x the price for detailed work?
Or you could use a Fry Reglet Minimalist Door Frame www.fryreglet.com
Jeff Meagher Oh cry me a river. track home workers have no Id about how colonial victorian etc fancy homes used to be
Sweet....futuristic trim...the future is here.
Notice there are no shims around this door. The door is perfectly square. Walls built with dimensional lumber could have never achieved this level precision throughout the construction phase.. I am going to have to try Timberstrand studs. Great video Matt!
Ok ! More to come in Pt. 2. ?
Why does the carpenter have to be Finnish? Wouldn't a Swedish or Norwegian carpenter be just as skilled?
Rumpa Stiltskin - because when they used Polish contractors everything was shining...
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My Russian contractor might be the fastest I’ve ever seen.
I just discovered this amazing video . Do have a follow up showing the finished trims? Please let me know, thank you.
Great stuff. Thanks.
noticed the dot! lol.
Great video, super informational and in depth instructions. Will definitely incorporate this detail into a future project.
(Did anyone else notice the memo to the electrician on the wall behind Matt? (Fart Fan haha))
My 1940's house has rolled built in edges for door frame. The plaster lays on top of door frames. I wanted to dupl it when i moved some doors but could not find the moulding to do it. Even exterior door frames are locked into this.
In my case the edging was nailed to the frame and then drywall/plaster installed.
I'm really interested in how you finished the cap on the stair walls in this house. Do you have any details?
What’s holding the 1/4” reveal? is it a spacer or the studs, It it treated or painted?
Im i the only one who noticed the fart fan writing on the wall behind him. LMAO
If only marketing on RUclips were equal to a well-contracted house. . .
Matt who the hell socked you one in the right eye...............🤜🏻💥
Probably someone who got tired of listening him explain something without being able to read his mind.
Damn this is so 👍 no one do that in vancouver...
I did a lot of reglet on a college sports complex. It was all good until I had to trim a small ceiling hanging over a heated indoor pool. There was a 1 ¼" reveal against structural steel all the way around 3 sides of the ceiling. This would have been great, but prior to building the light guage framing for the drywall, it was covered in vapor barrier and sealed with a putty. This was all 15 feet in the air on am uneven floor. Fun fun!it was all sealed where the L on the bead was sealed with a putty which made for some really difficult compound miter joints on the corners because the sealer would not allow for the reglet to sit flat where it wanted to be. Any other issue with it I could have just cut back the drywall where needed to maintain the reveal and used a true 45. Do yourself a favor if your ever building something like this that needs to be water tight. Put the reglet in first. Then your sealing compound once the reglet is installed. This was not a fun job. Everyone was breathing down my neck to get it done, and they wanted me to remove the sealant to make the job easy. Well that's all great until you start having mold issues in a 15 foot high ceiling in a heavily used facility. I took my time, I let the contractors think they knew what was up and blow their hot air, figured and cut the compound miters necessary To make the reglet fit tight without removing the sealant. In the end, it wasn't spec'd out for level 5 and it should have been, they came behind me and sprayed a high gloss epoxy finish on it.
All this makes me wish I were a contractor instead of a drywaller.
Either that or be more careful with the sealant and make sure it's not in the way of the reglet
0:52 Does the writing on the wall read "Fart Fan"? Lol😂😂
Love the fart fan loc? on the drywall in the background
But where does the fart fan location go? Is that th electricians job?! Hahahahahaha
Looks awesome. Would love to see what you're talking abouut the trim install
I hoped I wasn't wasn't only one who noticed 🤣
looks like the finisher went ahead and dotted that eye when you told him about the plans to use this system
RIght! Im like wtf is up with his eye!
I've been finishing for 17 years and that exactly what I thought 😄
Hahaha!
This explains everything
How you get that trim under your right eye ?
I agree we shouldn't have to go looking for another video to see what we just watched for 5 minutes looks like in the final product.
That wall is going to be uber crisp.
I love the fart fan notation on the back wall!
If you put a price in for this type of finish make sure it’s a high one ! I did a load of doorways like this a few years ago and they take forever to get absolutely right
Have you ever had problem with settlements btw the jam and rough opening? with a 1/4" reveal, even an 1/8" settlement would show. I always want to do my next house like this but worry about this being a problem down the road.
+William Wong not had that issue.
Matt, what's between the door jamb and the rough opening.
Is there a wood spacer? Or a backer rod/sealant?
Or do you have an open gap?
nice to way to achieve the shadow gap.
any video tips on finishing a basement?
How is the flooring installed? The gap between the base plate and flooring if not using trim? I'd love to see this installed.
I hate using Fry Reglit. The aluminum is so thick. You have to cut it with a circular saw miter box. And the mud lip sticks out so far that it creates about a 3/16" skirting out of the wall along the base. So in order to get a flat wall using the Z reveal (in this case DRMZ-625-25) you have to shim the entire wall out with double cardboard shims all except where the bead goes. There you do not shim, but bend the sheetrock in to accommodate the thickness of the mud lip of the bead. Also, the nail flange is maybe 3/4" as opposed to 1 1/8" or more for regular bead. I prefer using an L metal and a piece of flat baseboard with a 1/4" rabbet on top of the desired depth. But hey, that's just me. And oh- The trim carpenters install the bead? Since when? It is typically the drywall finishers.
My father was doing that in 1969 he was a drywall contractor from Dubuque Iowa everything he liked was Modern So when you say modern what year. And we call the bead that goes around the door L metal and it's no more expensive than regular metal the house that I grew up in was a totally trim free house.
Beautiful concept Matt. I'm attempting to plan for this on my home we are building now. My questions is, what acts as the door stop here. It's hard to tell from the video but is there a rabbet along the back side of the jamb? This would give a different look from the backside with a smaller jamb face no?
In the UK you have to mount power outlets at 450mm of the floor
What is filling in most of the gap (but is recessed) between the metal trim piece and the jamb?
Wouldn't the plaster/mud crack over time if plastered over the 'raglet'?
Yes you’re right however if they put mesh tape over it then that’ll prevent the crack.
Reglet. And not if it's done properly.
Wished you did..... like a fast forward version of the build to the finished product at the end of this video
How did you get that shiner under your eye??
Rough super bowl party...
Matt Risinger got into a fight?
Michael Schoonmaker Go Pats!!! Lol (Punch)
+MegaMetinMetin actually not a great story. Tripped on a lego set in the middle of the night. Face plant into dresser.
Matt Risinger ooo legooss, that must of woken you up :D
Hey great Video. I'm wondering what the painter thinks of this 1/4 reveal. I am curious about where the trim paint starts and stops or being modern is it all the same.
Thanks for vids bud!
I think it is actually a 1/2 revel. I just bought $2000 worth.
Great vid! Gives me ideas. uh oh! Me now dangerous.
When doing the “no-trim” look, how wide would you need to order the jamb? Do you stick to the same jamb width you would when using casing or does it need to be adjusted?
This sounds beautiful. It’s hard to imagine what the total overall cost would be at $150 a finish carpenter man-hour!
Ken Munoz wow. I'm undercharging
What do you use where the wood jamb and the aluminum channel meet? Do you put a thin bead of caulk?
I have some qusstions and I can't find a blog or anything on your website on this topic. I'd like to see this from start to finish> It would be great to see a section.. Where do they stop the drywall in this installation? The trimmer stud? How is the door frame installed, shims etc. if you don't have the trim to cover this? How is the reveal set? It looks like you are using a different casing bead for the base, with a flange that goes downward as well --or...? Thanks.
Do you change the hinge backset or use a smaller hinge so the barrel does not protrude into the room as there is no casing around the door?
WTF?! He didn't even show the finished result.
Jeffrey B - that reminds me some videos on those xxx websites. You have seen enough, now use your imagination and make the finishing touches yourself...
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Great detail. Who built the jambs?
Always go to my teacher when I run into a new job
I’ve done and hated it. It took me five different crews of finish carpenters to finish one house, after one day they didn’t wanted to come back anymore. One guy told he wouldn’t even do it if I pay him three times more money. 😂
I would imagine this would make future tweaks to the door frame quite a bit more difficult if necessary. (I still live in a pier and beam house)
But how do you mud it after the wood is there? Or do you just have the frame up for show?
What is in or how do you build the 1/4" gap between the door frame and reglet. Is there something something inside there?
Charlie Hatfield shims I believe
It must be the regret covers the gap between the door frame and studs/edge of drywall. Otherwise you would see the door frame shines.
Explained here: fryreglet.com/downloads_shapefinder/ZRevealMolding.pdf
Thanks
yes dude is prob a drug dealer or perv put in body scanner..