Messi has 1200+ goals and assists, but the most impressive thing about Leo is that stats do not give him justice. He is way above the statistics. This is what Ronaldo fans don't want to admit as they always compare their goalscoring numbers. Some are already comparing Lamin Yamal to Leo, but I don't think Yamal will reach that level.
Messi is Chasing records also. But doesn't make it obvious. In the end it makes sense, because thats what football is about. Winning trophies and becoming top scorer to get MVP and awards
Messi is not chasing any records. He is trying to give his best to the team he plays for winning trophies.. Also goalscoring wont necessarily win you mvp Nor is football all about goalscoring.. there is soooooo much more to football@branchyapple
Ita funny that CR fanb0ys dont understand basic math to understand the fact that CR goal numbers are not even close to messi dwspite playing as a goalscorer
If Klopp could have come to Barcelona when Messi was still playing, he would’ve been extraordinary. With his style of Gegenpressing messi at the False 9? it gives me chills thinking about it.
There is a reason why every manager who hasn't coached Cristiano Ronaldo says Messi is the greatest. Even some of those who has coached Cristiano just can't stop praising Messi all the time. Like Mourinho, Ancelotti, Zidane
Mourinhon and many others who has coached that player has said messi is a god almost. The greatest by a hugeeee margin.. and they rank cr.not even in top 5
critiques like these are the ones why lionel will be regarded as the greatest of all time ( if he isnt already). a fellow rival/opponent coach speaking out - these are the merits that count.
Notice how Klopp keeps saying his father who seen Pele and all the greats that followed and says Pele is the best and how Klopp says, 'I don't know, I havent seen him play, but for me its Messi?' If only people would be as logical as Klopp, instead of saying 'this is why Messi is the GOAT.
@@homerp.hendelbergenheinzel6649 That's not the point I was trying to make. What I'm trying to say that Klopp made an intelligent decision to understand that he can't really do a real claim on who is the greatest ever, because he hasnt seen the greats his father has seen who also has seen Messi and still calls Pele greater. So Klopp says that Messi is the best he has seen, because he for example did not watch Pele to decide. My father has seen everyone from Pele to Cruyff to Maradonna, to Zico, Platini, Van Basten, Gullit, Romario, Ronaldo, Zidane and now Cristiano and Messi and calls Pele the greatest he has seen as well. And even though I only seen late 80's till now, I believe him. The best I have seen since then is Brazilian Ronaldo and Maradonna and by that I mean pure talent. Messi, Cristiano, Romario, van Basten and Zidane behind them.
@@Herosennin i wonder how much you understand about football with this kind of strange list of yours. its a matter of perception. maybe you and your dad are just not that perceptive when it comes to football? to talk about pure talent and have a list were dinho doesnt show up but van basten and cristiano ( the prime example of hard work, so quite the opposite of pure talent) is kind of where i stop discussing or conversating. another pointless comment ~ have your perception, but dont wonder if people dont like talking to or even mocking you.
Anfield 2019 - Klopp figured out only way for comeback is to put 10 players to defend Messi only, as he knew others were deadwoods. They did and they came back.
If Ronaldo (and most Man United fans) were completely honest with themselves...they would admit that Messi is better than EVERYONE. It's not even a debate. Most professionals and fans outside those groups would pick Messi anyway as unbiased observers. I would not however, deny the fact that Ronaldo is one of the all time greatest players because he is. His consistency and fitness levels for so many years is testament to that. It's just Messi is...Messi.
It's undeniable that CR is the, physically, hardest worker. Very admirable in and of itself. Exceedingly skilled,,, at scoring. And, showboating. On paper, he may be better. But it's all about HIM. There doesn't seem to be an ounce of humility in the man. I just can't be a fan. Messi, on the other hand, SEEMS as humble as a man can be. I've never met him so, I can't really say for sure. But, when you see the disparity in the assists column, you see one guy willing to let someone else take a shot. The end.
@@seanpennhauer9133 Oh IDK I'm not really keeping track. The only ones I've seen clips of are Mourinho and Ancelotti saying Messi is better despite coaching CR7
I am so sad about that fact that my favorite team of Barca lost this incredible player, still remember his tears during his last Barca press conference. I still hope I will be able to see him in Barcelona jersey.
Klopp’s first statement is kinda misleading, though. Messi, especially in his younger days, had a great work ethic. He’d always track back, it was Pep (I think) who said to him to calm down with all the running, as they needed him fresh - his energy was then geared towards a more attacking game, which would then result in him becoming the goal scorer that he is now regarded as. Comparing Salah to Messi is hilarious, btw 😂
Messi spending most of his time playing as a playmaker, even he often goes deep enough to the half of the field to get a ball and controlling the game, yet he still scored 840+ goals and still counting. That alone is enough to certified him as the greatest of all time. Yes, Cristiano also play as a winger in United, but it was only for 6 years. After that, he was and still is Center Forward, so it's understandable he gets more goals than Messi (not saying his 900+ goals record not amazing, though).
I am a Ronaldo fan boy but hats off to Klopp for being so genuine on his love for Messi. And he did so without putting Ronaldo down Mad respect for Klopp
Què honesto es Klopp, y dice la verdad que vemos muchos de nosotros, Messi es el mejor, es un placer verlo jugar, algo que no me pasa con ningùn otro jugador, y por lo visto Klopp lo ve tambièn asì.
Slot has made a brilliant start tactically at LFC and has played it exactly right by his understatement and not trying to be a 2nd Jurgen. Don't half miss JK though. Respect to both, and 100% agree about Messi. Been lucky enough to see Pele, Best, Cruyff, Maradona etc in my lifetime, and though so difficult to compare generations, I would go for Leo.
Every manager that understands the game has said that. Even Ferguson, Mourinho , Ancheloti and Zidane that all coached Cristiano can tell you the same thing. Messi is the best player to play the game in the last 25 years
Why the last 25 years? Come on. Messi is head and shoulder the best player of All Time! Everybody with a mindset, and not occupied with nostalgia, knows this. Very strange that you don't understand this simple fact!😮
This goat debate is so Messi. CR7 fan here. Cristiano does something better, Messi does something better. Both are gems. Their consistency over 15+ years is unprecedented. Should celebrate both instead of comparing them as both are fabulous but different type of players.
The most impressive thing about Messi is his vision and the fact he has the ability to execute whatever he sees. At his prime he had no limits, like if Zeus was a footballer
every coach that never coached messi has called him the greatest ever, no bias in there. but only the concurrent coaches of ronaldo call him the best which is biased and then they leave ronaldo's club and call messi the greatest ever.
Have u ever seen an art that moves you? If u ever encounter that kind of art, then you'll know what I mean when I am saying Messi play football as if it is an art and the pitch is his canvas.
As a Liverpool fan I say how often could any team say that? Liverpool as a TEAM were on a road to destiny under Klopp for two seasons when they won the CL and then the PL and Messi didn't exactly play badly in those two CL games.
@@MadLFCMessi in that second leg actually set up three amazing chances for his teammates to score but destiny had other plans. Liverpool do sometimes get that luck in the Champions League.
That help you sleep at night? Accept it all these managers have studies the game for decades, yet you 15 year olds on RUclips all seem to know more then them?😭🫵🏻🫵🏻
Maradona was alot better in every way. Messi is so much more consistent because he takes care of himself. In terms of ability with the ball and natural talent maradona beats everyone by a huge distance. But messi is the king today without a rival
Maradona is great in terms of football ability but not greater than Messi bro for short neymar was exceptional too but in the long run maradona was better so when u played one game well and then after played games the there is a performance gap than the first game bro. Short run and log run is the different thing
I do actually agree with you that Maradona was the most talented ever. He started playing 2 years earlier than Messi and age 20 he was already a legend. But then he lost track pretty early in Europe, messed with the coke and only played like 4 good seasons in almost a decade. Maradona with focus would have been incredible. Messi is slightly less talented, but had focus and dedication, which made him way more successfull than Maradona ever was. And which in the end makes him better than Maradona
@@seanpennhauer9133 I think Maradona had more natural ball control than Messi, but I don't think he was more talented at the sport itself. Messi's brain and body together are more talented than Maradona. However, Maradona could send people into a trance with his ability to play with the ball, much like Ronaldinho. But in terms of pure footballing talent to the actual game, Messi is definitely more gifted.
Is he wrong though😂...every manager is messi fanboy...messi is like dream signing for every manager🐐🐐🐐
right 🥰
Has a place in every team in the world, real or fantasy
Why does every comment on these football videos have like 10 grammar mistakes 😂
@Ivv93 it doesn't matter as long as Messi is the goat, bho!
@@Ivv93Maybe because of English not being their first language like you. As long as they communicate their thoughts, that's more than enough.
Klopp,Pep,Jose,Capello,Zidan
e, Wenger.They all see the genius of Lionel Messi.
Pep, spains manager. Every single manager
Mourinho
add jose Mourinho to the list
He said Jose@@Vicky-sk7x
And still 13 yr olds say ronaldo is the best 😂
One of those who has always understood the "magisterial" nature of Messi- simply incomparable to mere mortals
"as long as you are not Lionel Messi, you have to Defend"🤣😅😂
Messi has 1200+ goals and assists, but the most impressive thing about Leo is that stats do not give him justice. He is way above the statistics. This is what Ronaldo fans don't want to admit as they always compare their goalscoring numbers. Some are already comparing Lamin Yamal to Leo, but I don't think Yamal will reach that level.
Messi is Chasing records also. But doesn't make it obvious. In the end it makes sense, because thats what football is about. Winning trophies and becoming top scorer to get MVP and awards
Messi is not chasing any records.
He is trying to give his best to the team he plays for winning trophies..
Also goalscoring wont necessarily win you mvp
Nor is football all about goalscoring.. there is soooooo much more to football@branchyapple
Ita funny that CR fanb0ys dont understand basic math to understand the fact that CR goal numbers are not even close to messi dwspite playing as a goalscorer
If Klopp could have come to Barcelona when Messi was still playing, he would’ve been extraordinary. With his style of Gegenpressing messi at the False 9? it gives me chills thinking about it.
They would've been devastating.
There is a reason why every manager who hasn't coached Cristiano Ronaldo says Messi is the greatest.
Even some of those who has coached Cristiano just can't stop praising Messi all the time. Like Mourinho, Ancelotti, Zidane
Even Fergie has praised Messi a lot
right thats the difference
Mourinhon and many others who has coached that player has said messi is a god almost.
The greatest by a hugeeee margin.. and they rank cr.not even in top 5
For me I have watched both Messi and Ronaldo play. and my conclusions , I go with Messi in what ever situation he is the best of all time❤❤❤
Every coach knows that you have Messi in your team 70% of your work is relieved😂
i mean... he aint wrong
He is neither right nor wrong. It's his opinion as he said.
When opponents and managers praise you relentlessly
critiques like these are the ones why lionel will be regarded as the greatest of all time ( if he isnt already). a fellow rival/opponent coach speaking out - these are the merits that count.
Notice how Klopp keeps saying his father who seen Pele and all the greats that followed and says Pele is the best and how Klopp says, 'I don't know, I havent seen him play, but for me its Messi?'
If only people would be as logical as Klopp, instead of saying 'this is why Messi is the GOAT.
@@Herosennin but wouldn't the same apply to Pele? From whom did Pele take the throne?
@@homerp.hendelbergenheinzel6649 That's not the point I was trying to make.
What I'm trying to say that Klopp made an intelligent decision to understand that he can't really do a real claim on who is the greatest ever, because he hasnt seen the greats his father has seen who also has seen Messi and still calls Pele greater.
So Klopp says that Messi is the best he has seen, because he for example did not watch Pele to decide.
My father has seen everyone from Pele to Cruyff to Maradonna, to Zico, Platini, Van Basten, Gullit, Romario, Ronaldo, Zidane and now Cristiano and Messi and calls Pele the greatest he has seen as well.
And even though I only seen late 80's till now, I believe him. The best I have seen since then is Brazilian Ronaldo and Maradonna and by that I mean pure talent. Messi, Cristiano, Romario, van Basten and Zidane behind them.
@@Herosennin i wonder how much you understand about football with this kind of strange list of yours. its a matter of perception. maybe you and your dad are just not that perceptive when it comes to football? to talk about pure talent and have a list were dinho doesnt show up but van basten and cristiano ( the prime example of hard work, so quite the opposite of pure talent) is kind of where i stop discussing or conversating. another pointless comment ~
have your perception, but dont wonder if people dont like talking to or even mocking you.
He is regarded as the best ever all through put the football.world now
Name a top manager (who hasn’t coached either of them) who says Ronaldo is better. I’ll wait.
None
Ronaldo can never be better. He is not even the best European player
@@RamPrakash-ev3fm Not the best??????
@@liljimmy454 Johan cruyff is better than him
@@RamPrakash-ev3fm ehem
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Anfield 2019 - Klopp figured out only way for comeback is to put 10 players to defend Messi only, as he knew others were deadwoods. They did and they came back.
It is great to hear professionals talk without restraint or worries about being politically correct, simply and complete freedom of speech 🗨
If Ronaldo (and most Man United fans) were completely honest with themselves...they would admit that Messi is better than EVERYONE. It's not even a debate. Most professionals and fans outside those groups would pick Messi anyway as unbiased observers.
I would not however, deny the fact that Ronaldo is one of the all time greatest players because he is. His consistency and fitness levels for so many years is testament to that. It's just Messi is...Messi.
I'm Manchester United fans and likes C Ronaldo, however that 2 UCL final where Messi teach us how to play football,
I stop lying to myself
It's undeniable that CR is the, physically, hardest worker. Very admirable in and of itself. Exceedingly skilled,,, at scoring. And, showboating. On paper, he may be better. But it's all about HIM. There doesn't seem to be an ounce of humility in the man. I just can't be a fan. Messi, on the other hand, SEEMS as humble as a man can be. I've never met him so, I can't really say for sure. But, when you see the disparity in the assists column, you see one guy willing to let someone else take a shot. The end.
No fanboy here. Klopp just speaks the truth and is excited to tell the truth. An honest man, Klopp.
He is fanboy of messi, same goes to mourinho, he also fan of messi
@@monasagainyou sure he isn’t just a fan of football? that’s the difference, football fans love messi, real/United/juve fans love Ronaldo
Every manager that isn’t affiliated with CR7 says Messi is the best in history
right it’s clear 🤣🤣 even players most of the time it’s Ronaldo’s ex or current teammates.
Even half the managers that have coached CR7 say Messi is the best
@@beneasler8868 Who doesn't say it except Fergie? Fergie says it only because he is like a son to him, at least that's how he explained his choice...
Messi is the most complete player ever. Period!
@@seanpennhauer9133 Oh IDK I'm not really keeping track. The only ones I've seen clips of are Mourinho and Ancelotti saying Messi is better despite coaching CR7
I am so sad about that fact that my favorite team of Barca lost this incredible player, still remember his tears during his last Barca press conference. I still hope I will be able to see him in Barcelona jersey.
0:59 😂 perfectly timed
Not accidental 😉
What a strike 😮
Yes I share his point
goat things
He had a good point
respect sir
Respect to Klopp.
as if it's not obvious that Messi is the greatest GOAT of all time
Klopp’s first statement is kinda misleading, though. Messi, especially in his younger days, had a great work ethic. He’d always track back, it was Pep (I think) who said to him to calm down with all the running, as they needed him fresh - his energy was then geared towards a more attacking game, which would then result in him becoming the goal scorer that he is now regarded as.
Comparing Salah to Messi is hilarious, btw 😂
Messi spending most of his time playing as a playmaker, even he often goes deep enough to the half of the field to get a ball and controlling the game, yet he still scored 840+ goals and still counting. That alone is enough to certified him as the greatest of all time. Yes, Cristiano also play as a winger in United, but it was only for 6 years. After that, he was and still is Center Forward, so it's understandable he gets more goals than Messi (not saying his 900+ goals record not amazing, though).
Klopp knows who the goat is🐐
Him praising Messi's free kick which landed his team a 3-0 loss at Champions league semifinal explains how big of a fan he is
I am a Ronaldo fan boy but hats off to Klopp for being so genuine on his love for Messi. And he did so without putting Ronaldo down
Mad respect for Klopp
That's the important part, we don't need to disrespect any player when expressing our preferences.
Què honesto es Klopp, y dice la verdad que vemos muchos de nosotros, Messi es el mejor, es un placer verlo jugar, algo que no me pasa con ningùn otro jugador, y por lo visto Klopp lo ve tambièn asì.
Everyone knows the truth.
Slot has made a brilliant start tactically at LFC and has played it exactly right by his understatement and not trying to be a 2nd Jurgen. Don't half miss JK though. Respect to both, and 100% agree about Messi. Been lucky enough to see Pele, Best, Cruyff, Maradona etc in my lifetime, and though so difficult to compare generations, I would go for Leo.
Every manager that understands the game has said that.
Even Ferguson, Mourinho , Ancheloti and Zidane that all coached Cristiano can tell you the same thing.
Messi is the best player to play the game in the last 25 years
messi is the best player to have EVER played the game.
Why the last 25 years?
Come on. Messi is head and shoulder the best player of All Time! Everybody with a mindset, and not occupied with nostalgia, knows this.
Very strange that you don't understand this simple fact!😮
yayyy klopp thank you
This goat debate is so Messi. CR7 fan here. Cristiano does something better, Messi does something better. Both are gems. Their consistency over 15+ years is unprecedented. Should celebrate both instead of comparing them as both are fabulous but different type of players.
Title says "Fanboy" But he's only stating facts.
The most impressive thing about Messi is his vision and the fact he has the ability to execute whatever he sees. At his prime he had no limits, like if Zeus was a footballer
"Ronaldo was in the room as well" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
every coach that never coached messi has called him the greatest ever, no bias in there. but only the concurrent coaches of ronaldo call him the best which is biased and then they leave ronaldo's club and call messi the greatest ever.
and he managed to beat a barca team with messi suarez and coutinho says it all
Liverpool were a much better team that year. Messi was dragging a Barca that was slowly fading into mediocrity.
every manager is messi fanboy
that ai one in the beginning lmao u ain't slick
Everyone has its own opinion but for me Ronaldo 9 🇧🇷 is the best
He could’ve been if he didn’t have health issues
Without injuries the goat debate would definitely be R9 vs Messi
Have u ever seen an art that moves you? If u ever encounter that kind of art, then you'll know what I mean when I am saying Messi play football as if it is an art and the pitch is his canvas.
Messi went missing at Anfield though😂
He was by far the best Barcelona player on the pitch while his teammates crumbled under pressure.
As a Liverpool fan I say how often could any team say that? Liverpool as a TEAM were on a road to destiny under Klopp for two seasons when they won the CL and then the PL and Messi didn't exactly play badly in those two CL games.
@@MadLFC Exactly. Anfield is tough, Liverpool has proven this several times.
@@MadLFCMessi in that second leg actually set up three amazing chances for his teammates to score but destiny had other plans. Liverpool do sometimes get that luck in the Champions League.
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In 100 years from now people will still be talking about him, and none of y’all’s opinions wud matter!!!
Nononono siuuuu😂 Messi paid klopp👎🏻👎🏻🤡😂
That help you sleep at night? Accept it all these managers have studies the game for decades, yet you 15 year olds on RUclips all seem to know more then them?😭🫵🏻🫵🏻
Even the world of rock bows to Messi! Here’s a rock tribute to the King of Football!
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Maradona was alot better in every way. Messi is so much more consistent because he takes care of himself. In terms of ability with the ball and natural talent maradona beats everyone by a huge distance. But messi is the king today without a rival
Bring a proof that maradona is better than Messi
Maradona is great in terms of football ability but not greater than Messi bro for short neymar was exceptional too but in the long run maradona was better so when u played one game well and then after played games the there is a performance gap than the first game bro. Short run and log run is the different thing
Soo Messi is better in every way than maradona
I do actually agree with you that Maradona was the most talented ever. He started playing 2 years earlier than Messi and age 20 he was already a legend. But then he lost track pretty early in Europe, messed with the coke and only played like 4 good seasons in almost a decade. Maradona with focus would have been incredible. Messi is slightly less talented, but had focus and dedication, which made him way more successfull than Maradona ever was. And which in the end makes him better than Maradona
@@seanpennhauer9133 I think Maradona had more natural ball control than Messi, but I don't think he was more talented at the sport itself. Messi's brain and body together are more talented than Maradona. However, Maradona could send people into a trance with his ability to play with the ball, much like Ronaldinho. But in terms of pure footballing talent to the actual game, Messi is definitely more gifted.
Penaldo attitude is terrible tho?
as Cristiano Ronaldo fan, this video is misleading and used AI to generate, so dislike
Hahahahah ngl this cope is pretty good, of all the embarrassing Ronaldo fans excuses this one is definitely the best
Klopp has lost his credibility
😂
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