I have been eyeing on starting a website business until I stumbled upon Webflow and it excites me. Websites made with it are really amazing and not boring. Now learning in depth about Webflow and will lay out my business plan in a week so I can launch it next month. I need these info. I also watched your video about the tools needed before launching it. All your content is helpful. Thank you
I think Webflow is a great tool for building websites, but how do you justify the monthly payment with all these limitations/caps? There’s limits on your number of E-commerce Items, Yearly Sales Volume, Form Submissions, Number of Pages, Monthly Site Visits, CMS Records, Bandwidth, and API Requests. There isn’t even a fully unlimited plan offered, and the closest you can get to unlimited is $235 per month… Am I missing something?
I love Webflow, but I've started exporting simple (non-CMS sites) to Netlify once I've published them. I still pay for my Webflow account plan. Netlify is free hosting up to 100GB/mth bandwidth, free SSL, just as fast (according to PageSpeed Insights). Takes an extra 30 seconds to deploy to Netlify and I can still edit the site in Webflow if I need to make changes. Surprised more people don't do this...
@@pranjaldoorwar9743 India is still pretty good, imagine countries even poorer than India. Webflow is wayyyyy too expensive for people living in third world countries
@@ddc171 I'm in Nigeria and cannot pay $29 a month for an e-commerce website that does not even have up to 50 products. The annual billing is almost ten times the minimum monthly wage here. I would still have to pay for domain name and the web designer who would design the website. Although I agree that webflow is a great tool for designing websites and it offers a lot of flexibility but their prices are just too high.
I agree. I encourage all of my clients to host with webflow. That said, I wish they’d give bulk discounts. Once you have 40+ sites hosted, it really adds up.
Jacob Harmon very true. I have just over 65 sites and it certainly adds up. However you might want to look into Webflow’s partner program. They reward you for having a lot of sites hosted on your account!
How about the affiliate program? They mention we get "50% of subscription payments for the first 12 months - for each subscription within the cookie window, or until the subscription(s) is canceled. Each time a customer you referred subscribes to an account or site plan, a Webflow team member will review the conversion, and once approved you’ll receive an email confirmation."
To be honest, this is full of shit. Why? Webflow DOES offer good hosting, BUT the price is too high. Just export your site into another cms. In this way, you have acces to everything for less than 10% of the cost. Just run a speedtest on my site: www.viralistic.nl I hosted it myself and i can acces everything! - Cms - Simple on screen editor - working form function - everything that webflow offers
@@marrallisa hello, I am new in the web design biz, I find hosting very expensive on webflow, but I am tryng to figure out how to make a cms for clients outside webflow. Could you give me some advice?
I agree with Payton, the premium-ish cost of Webflow hosting is worth every penny. The Webflow customer service team is the best in the business and the client-side 'editor dashboard' is so easy for clients to navigate/update etc.
All the pro’s you mentioned I agree with but your 'honest' appraisal failed to mention many con’s. You can’t undo a Change in Editor and there is no edit tracking. You can’t have different forms on one site send to different recipients, no user login or member functionality. While the staff try their hardest, Webflow support is the slowest I have EVER experienced (based in Southern Hemisphere) and there is no support ticketing system. Webflow are aware of this (check the forums) and have been talking about improving it for SEVERAL YEARS now. They don’t offer Non-native currency and the international bank fees add to the cost of hosting. The hosting fee structure doesn’t make sense. Try telling a client that if they want to add a simple file attachment to a form they need to upgrade to a business plan and pay $240 EXTRA per year. Projects going beyond a basic site often require coding even though they market it as a “no-code” solution. You end up posting on the Wishlist often for things that should be mandatory. They limit your wishlist votes which run out very quickly there are so many features missing. Many basic features have been in the wishlist for more than 4 years. Work-around/solutions often fall back on the developer.. and at times even the customer themselves. At times you have to pay for some external service on top of the Webflow hosting fee. To me, Webflow seem to care more about marketing to new customers rather than effective servicing of it’s current clients.
Thank you for this info! I'm currently learning webflow so that I can launch my freelance business in the next few months, and I'm trying to gather info like this so I know what to say to clients when they ask about this stuff. I would love to know more about what your SEO process looks like on webflow! I know very little about SEO in general, and am kind of dreading that part of the job...
Vivi I'm excited for you to launch your business!! I hope this video helped just a little bit! The SEO process can seem overwhelming but I hope to launch more videos about this soon that can help! I also have toyed with the idea of creating a super cheap course on "SEO for Web Designers" that basically gives you a checklist of things to do each month to run a successful SEO campaign. It's a lot of work to put together but I would love to help people like you add SEO to your expertise and make more $$$!
@@PaytonClarkSmith thank you! I'm excited too! (Got laid off because of Covid, and realized how much I prefer being at home anyway haha) And hell yeah, having an SEO course that uses Webflow as its main infrastructure would be so helpful! I'd grab it in a heartbeat :)
I feel the money is the same, it's just that you don't have to code and the customer will start having an expensive site after 3-4 years, just at the time it needs a refurbish... So e.g. a 1000-euro site will have 500 euros spent on webflow for 2 years and 500 euros for my time to click through it and create the site. It's like installing a CMS, a pre-made template and making changes. Just the yearly cost is like 2 months of webflow.
Excellent! Straight to the point. No fluff....lol! All in 8 minutes and 16 seconds. That was great, man! Thank you Payton! Subscribing to your channel now! Oh, I'm already subscribed.
Hey! great video! I just have a question i can't seem to find. How many website can i host with webflow cms package? I'm looking to use this to sell websites to clients.
The CMS part is pretty powerful ie having the ability for your clients to create a blog post on their own once you have created the collections template. Thank you for articulating the pros of Webflow hosting so well based on your personal experience.
Though this is great, I have a Webflow subscription that was going out of billing and after they declined my card I had been basically threatened that all of my sites will be unpublished, hosting will be cancelled, and all of my sites will be deleted permanently, so in my opinion if you're going the route of someone who may be changing only a few things on your site definitely go with the aws hosting, but for me I just don't like the idea that they have that power over me to simply end all of my clients and myself simply because my card limit was not set high enough for them.
I just wish they had a developer track for hosting. I pay 5-600 a year from my other hosts and can scale based on that. For me, it's not about cheap. It's about scalability. Per site hosting disallows scaling when I mark up hosting/support. For me it's not about cheaper. It's about margins. And the hosting margins with webflow are lower than other sites. I would build WAY more webflow sites if I knew that I could scale my hosting fees.
What’s your current solution for hosting? I’m in the same boat. I’m slowly adding clients, and they always balk at the yearly cost of either a wix or web flow hosting plan. I’m not going back to building websites with html and css, but hosting is crazy.
@@nathanielreeves_dev well... For html I just use a CPanel hosting service (take your pick). However for webflow hosting there is no choice. If they balk at the price... They don't get a website. Simple as that. (or they build it themselves)
I thought webflow allowed you to save your project using the Account plan but not publish it to a domain. You're saying it doesn't and that I have to buy hosting from them to do that?
@@PaytonClarkSmith I want to use webflow to design my website and then move it somewhere else for hosting. I was going to buy the unlimited account plan ($35/month charged yearly). However, if I needed to make changes, I wanted to have the backup in webflow so that I could make them and re-deploy again as needed. Would that work?
sorry i'm still confused because i'm not good with all this tech stuff. When you are talking about pricing is it for the account plans on webflow? do you have to get both a site plan and an account plan?
also can you own your domain name on webflow? and another thing (sorry) you are just renting your hosting from webflow right ? but if you own a hosting can you have it on webflow ? (does that make anysense ?)
Hey Katy, Payton is talking about the "Site Plan" which includes site security, bandwidth, 100 pages, form submissions etc. Yes, you can host your own domain on Webflow, you will need to point your DNS servers to Webflow from the platform you purchased your domains on. Yeah essentially you're renting hosting with them. If you have your own hosting, you can buy the "Account Plans" so you can export your Webflow site to your own hosting provider (even though it will be harder to make changes to the site afterwards - as Payton suggested in the video). Hope this helps!
Would i be able to use a lite account to export my code to another site (including cms, html, java, css, ect) and then change it back to a free account until i need to make changes to the website and then upgrade back to lite? I can make little tweaks in the html code itself but i would like the ability to edit without having it hosted with their expensive hosting plans. Am i on the right track?
So cant you keep the client website on your account, if there are any changes, you can change that and export and upload? is exporting and uploading a webflow site that hard?
Hi! Love your videos. They are extremely useful. I am starting out as a web designer and have made a few websites in Webflow. I am wondering if upgrading to a paid hosting plan for my website would make sense to create trust with potential clients. What are your thoughts on that?
It's very sad that a RUclipsr with 3k subs dont reply to questions like this... I'm working on an eCommerce website rn and its going well. I think the hosting is not more than 40 bucks a month and I guess the CMS is already included in the pack.
Webflow is not the place to go for e-commerce hosting. Use a service like Shopify, BigCommerce, or even Squarespace. In the end, it will be cheaper with the same capabilities.
"I am nor paid for this Video" - I dont believe you. Webflow does not cost "a couple of dollars" more than others - it costs lot more. If you want to team up with another person it cost 70 (seventy) dollars per month!
Baad Taste if you check the title of the video you’ll see I’m talking about site hosting, not team plans. Site hosting is $12-20/mo for a regular site on an unpaid plan. :)
@@PaytonClarkSmith The prices for regular web-hosting varies. The usual fee is about 1 to 3 $ a month. A "few" would refer to 2 or 3 - not ten. A lot of the "perks" you mention are not special but usually comes with any hosting package. Sorry about being rude, but I just found the pricing of the total "Weblow experience" confusing and misleading. Also I should have read your position with more care. It clearly states "honest, unsponsored" not mentioning biased ;-) I stared learning Webflow and as such it is good, but the pricing clearly aims for larger companies: just check the price for e-commerce. Pity then that the marketing seems to be aimed at small entrepreneurs and an age group below 25 (just guessing from the Webflow univesrity jokes) Next time I will check prices more closely before I invest days of my life on the wrong software.
Baad Taste I would be curious to know what other software you use to design and build websites! I know there are plenty out there. I haven’t found one with the design capabilities or the user friendliness when it comes to the CMS and editor dashboard (that’s really what you are paying for with the hosting). Luckily I have never had a client that has any issues with the hosting prices because they are always thrilled with what they got with Webflow!
Hi! What do You think about Wordpress? I was tought Wordpress in a CMS course I took back here in Sweden. I think WP is actually the worst, everything is total desaster, I was wondering tho because I saw Webflow as a widget in Wordpress I could make some money on building in Webflow but still have access to Woo Commerce in Wordpress. Does Webflow have their own ”Woo commerce”, or somekind of webshop that you can use?
Yeah I think it is a bit pricey. I feel like you get your money’s worth but a lot of people would rather pay less for an e-commerce store somewhere else and sacrifice the design capabilities of Webflow.
What if i want to add custom styles or layouts and i have to change the html/css code for that? Is there is possibility that i can still host the website on webflow? How you deal with clients that have special needs that webflow cannot satisfy?
The workarounds begin the second you try to use any of their components, which are outdated and unacceptable in many cases. And that's worth extra money?
This might be a dumb question but I'm really new to Webflow and want to learn more. Why can't you just go back into the Webflow editor and export the code again when you are not hosting with them? Also, how does the SSL help with SEO? Thanks for the great video!
Not a dumb question at all! You totally could just build it in web flow and then export the code and host it somewhere else! The only bummer with that is then you can’t get back into web flow to make edits and you won’t be able to utilize the CMS editor to pass access to your clients. But if you don’t need those things then you totally could export! As far as SSL goes, Google doesn’t like to rank sites that aren’t secure. Google doesn’t want to serve up unsecure site we have to do.
Sure, that's the marketing trap Webflow has set. If you export it to a far cheaper host, a lot of features, including client-editing, don't work. Don't use Webflow to build a site at all, problem solved. Same client benefits with Wordpress with a couple plugins at a much smaller price point. The other claims you make about the supposed fast load times and so on are unsupported by any impartial body. Webflow is just like Apple. Drink the kool-aid and pay through the nose into eternity. Oh, and comparing Webflow to the word cheapo hosting service in the universe is obviously a straw man argument.
As I'm researching Webflow, I appreciate your cautionary perspective, among the sea of positive gushing 'FlowFANS. Webflow is inordinately expensive, full-stop. The business model is, in essence, buying a cheap awesome printer and then being raped on ink carts (hosting). Let's be real: hosting is a CHEAP commodity, no matter how it's marketed. They did build an arguably sexier interface for building no-code websites in a visual way-this is the only reason I'm taking a look under the hood, at all. The issue I have as a designer is that I like to try things out and tinker a lot with things before I commit to them-and I also tend to want to own my tools. Cloud-based SaaS tools need to be something I simply can't live without, and right now that's constrained to Adobe CC. Webflow's marketing position is a bit disingenuous, at best. To say that it's free to try, well... not to any reasonable empirical end result. You get 2 small projects, constrained to two pages. This is sufficient enough to learn the platform but doesn't really allow you to create a soup-to-nuts design project of any kind. In order to jump aboard the love train, it's going to cost you the monthly plan, plus hosting. "You're just going to have to commit, but it's soooo awesome!" And if you're a freelancer who wants to join what amounts to an MLM, it might be worth it. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-level_marketing
@@SR-ih1be I'd been trying to get on the Webflow bus for a good 3 months. I have a decent knowledge of CSS and found the interface unfamiliar and counterintuitive. I was soldiering on deleting projects as I learned the program. I never came to like the interface, or accept the hype as many of this simplest things I can easily hand code, such as a "learn more" link at the end of a paragraph, must be hand-coded. Just a pain in the butt all around. Then some random guy mentioned in a comment of a youtube video about Webflow vs X Editor something called Oxygenbuilder for wordpress. Within a week I'd bought it (169 one- time payment, unlimited sites, including ecommerce) Far easier to my mind to use than Webflow, much cheaper, and their basic components are actually useful, easy to tweak, and work as expected. Seems WP has come a long way and resolved many of the issues that made it a pain to work with in the past.
@@SR-ih1be You've captured the essence of Webflow quite well there. I've been loving the designer but the hosting plans and features are often ambiguous and they seem to charge what they can which is fuelled by their marketing hype and adoring fans. During the past 3 years I've constantly dealt with an evangelical "we-can-do-no-wrong" attitude. I lost one client that was unhappy with Webflow and they ending up using a WP developer. I managed to get a credit back to my webflow account from the unused annual hosting. It was like Webflow was doing me a huge favour to give me a credit that I could only use with them because there was a limitation with THIER system (no Multi-Reference Field support on CSV Import). It was a one-time refund that came with a warning that in future I should probably use monthly billing. This would further increase the hosting cost which includes dealing with international bank fees because they don't support non-native currency. But there is always a silver lining, they now support Multi-Reference Field support on CSV Import after being in their wishlist for over 3 years! Halleluiah!
I don't think it's worth it. You have to pay the hosting in webflow and in Wordpress. Unless you are fine with the "made in webflow" badge in your site. Try udesly.
@@sebas-garro that's not entirely true. I've got a pro account for webflow, but i'm not paying for the webflow hosting. Instead i'm paying for wordpress and use the plugin. And simply hide the "made in webflow" badge with some custom code.
Salomontool.com...... is using webflow and is nor working I already pay and pay for my Domain and Home that I have here is very different than home that you have in internet.....................Publish that I have here do nor work properly
To be honest loads of nonesence here. You are trying to convince people to move to webflow. Name one reputed hosting company who doesn't offer any of those what you hv mentioned? #goodtry
I have been eyeing on starting a website business until I stumbled upon Webflow and it excites me. Websites made with it are really amazing and not boring. Now learning in depth about Webflow and will lay out my business plan in a week so I can launch it next month.
I need these info. I also watched your video about the tools needed before launching it.
All your content is helpful. Thank you
Hey Sheila!
How was your experience so far?
I think Webflow is a great tool for building websites, but how do you justify the monthly payment with all these limitations/caps? There’s limits on your number of E-commerce Items, Yearly Sales Volume, Form Submissions, Number of Pages, Monthly Site Visits, CMS Records, Bandwidth, and API Requests. There isn’t even a fully unlimited plan offered, and the closest you can get to unlimited is $235 per month… Am I missing something?
I love Webflow, but I've started exporting simple (non-CMS sites) to Netlify once I've published them. I still pay for my Webflow account plan. Netlify is free hosting up to 100GB/mth bandwidth, free SSL, just as fast (according to PageSpeed Insights). Takes an extra 30 seconds to deploy to Netlify and I can still edit the site in Webflow if I need to make changes. Surprised more people don't do this...
Never heard of it before...
I'm interested in looking at it though
Netlify has been my savior for ages. I think webflow pricing is really expensive especially for Asian countries like India.
Does it work for websites with more that 1 or 2 pages?
@@pranjaldoorwar9743 India is still pretty good, imagine countries even poorer than India. Webflow is wayyyyy too expensive for people living in third world countries
@@ddc171 I'm in Nigeria and cannot pay $29 a month for an e-commerce website that does not even have up to 50 products. The annual billing is almost ten times the minimum monthly wage here. I would still have to pay for domain name and the web designer who would design the website. Although I agree that webflow is a great tool for designing websites and it offers a lot of flexibility but their prices are just too high.
I am getting more and more convinced Webflow is the way to go! But first I have to conquer that steep learning curve!
and did you get it? I am right now in the same position you wrote here :-)
I agree. I encourage all of my clients to host with webflow. That said, I wish they’d give bulk discounts. Once you have 40+ sites hosted, it really adds up.
Jacob Harmon very true. I have just over 65 sites and it certainly adds up. However you might want to look into Webflow’s partner program. They reward you for having a lot of sites hosted on your account!
How about the affiliate program? They mention we get "50% of subscription payments for the first 12 months - for each subscription within the cookie window, or until the subscription(s) is canceled. Each time a customer you referred subscribes to an account or site plan, a Webflow team member will review the conversion, and once approved you’ll receive an email confirmation."
To be honest, this is full of shit.
Why?
Webflow DOES offer good hosting, BUT the price is too high.
Just export your site into another cms. In this way, you have acces to everything for less than 10% of the cost.
Just run a speedtest on my site: www.viralistic.nl
I hosted it myself and i can acces everything!
- Cms
- Simple on screen editor
- working form function
- everything that webflow offers
@@marrallisa hello, I am new in the web design biz, I find hosting very expensive on webflow, but I am tryng to figure out how to make a cms for clients outside webflow. Could you give me some advice?
@@Alexader356 no need! Use Udesly.
This is extremely useful and straightforward info, thank you
Osmel Fernandez my pleasure!
I agree with Payton, the premium-ish cost of Webflow hosting is worth every penny. The Webflow customer service team is the best in the business and the client-side 'editor dashboard' is so easy for clients to navigate/update etc.
Why does everyone say it is expensive if it is only 16$ a month for a free account and paid hosting ?
@@kehlerfn6606 Honestly, I think it's because designers/developers (including myself) are cheap by nature haha 😅
All the pro’s you mentioned I agree with but your 'honest' appraisal failed to mention many con’s.
You can’t undo a Change in Editor and there is no edit tracking. You can’t have different forms on one site send to different recipients, no user login or member functionality. While the staff try their hardest, Webflow support is the slowest I have EVER experienced (based in Southern Hemisphere) and there is no support ticketing system. Webflow are aware of this (check the forums) and have been talking about improving it for SEVERAL YEARS now. They don’t offer Non-native currency and the international bank fees add to the cost of hosting. The hosting fee structure doesn’t make sense. Try telling a client that if they want to add a simple file attachment to a form they need to upgrade to a business plan and pay $240 EXTRA per year.
Projects going beyond a basic site often require coding even though they market it as a “no-code” solution. You end up posting on the Wishlist often for things that should be mandatory. They limit your wishlist votes which run out very quickly there are so many features missing. Many basic features have been in the wishlist for more than 4 years. Work-around/solutions often fall back on the developer.. and at times even the customer themselves. At times you have to pay for some external service on top of the Webflow hosting fee. To me, Webflow seem to care more about marketing to new customers rather than effective servicing of it’s current clients.
WordPress Is WAY more functional than webflow. I always find no code solution for WordPress
Thank you for this info! I'm currently learning webflow so that I can launch my freelance business in the next few months, and I'm trying to gather info like this so I know what to say to clients when they ask about this stuff.
I would love to know more about what your SEO process looks like on webflow! I know very little about SEO in general, and am kind of dreading that part of the job...
Vivi I'm excited for you to launch your business!! I hope this video helped just a little bit! The SEO process can seem overwhelming but I hope to launch more videos about this soon that can help!
I also have toyed with the idea of creating a super cheap course on "SEO for Web Designers" that basically gives you a checklist of things to do each month to run a successful SEO campaign.
It's a lot of work to put together but I would love to help people like you add SEO to your expertise and make more $$$!
@@PaytonClarkSmith thank you! I'm excited too! (Got laid off because of Covid, and realized how much I prefer being at home anyway haha)
And hell yeah, having an SEO course that uses Webflow as its main infrastructure would be so helpful! I'd grab it in a heartbeat :)
@@PaytonClarkSmith HI Payton. This would be great! Keep us posted please. Thank you.
I'm curious to know how is your freelance business going so far?
I feel the money is the same, it's just that you don't have to code and the customer will start having an expensive site after 3-4 years, just at the time it needs a refurbish... So e.g. a 1000-euro site will have 500 euros spent on webflow for 2 years and 500 euros for my time to click through it and create the site. It's like installing a CMS, a pre-made template and making changes. Just the yearly cost is like 2 months of webflow.
Excellent! Straight to the point. No fluff....lol! All in 8 minutes and 16 seconds. That was great, man! Thank you Payton! Subscribing to your channel now! Oh, I'm already subscribed.
Hey! great video! I just have a question i can't seem to find. How many website can i host with webflow cms package? I'm looking to use this to sell websites to clients.
The CMS part is pretty powerful ie having the ability for your clients to create a blog post on their own once you have created the collections template.
Thank you for articulating the pros of Webflow hosting so well based on your personal experience.
Though this is great, I have a Webflow subscription that was going out of billing and after they declined my card I had been basically threatened that all of my sites will be unpublished, hosting will be cancelled, and all of my sites will be deleted permanently, so in my opinion if you're going the route of someone who may be changing only a few things on your site definitely go with the aws hosting, but for me I just don't like the idea that they have that power over me to simply end all of my clients and myself simply because my card limit was not set high enough for them.
I just wish they had a developer track for hosting. I pay 5-600 a year from my other hosts and can scale based on that.
For me, it's not about cheap. It's about scalability.
Per site hosting disallows scaling when I mark up hosting/support.
For me it's not about cheaper. It's about margins. And the hosting margins with webflow are lower than other sites.
I would build WAY more webflow sites if I knew that I could scale my hosting fees.
What’s your current solution for hosting? I’m in the same boat.
I’m slowly adding clients, and they always balk at the yearly cost of either a wix or web flow hosting plan. I’m not going back to building websites with html and css, but hosting is crazy.
@@nathanielreeves_dev well... For html I just use a CPanel hosting service (take your pick). However for webflow hosting there is no choice.
If they balk at the price... They don't get a website. Simple as that. (or they build it themselves)
Did you also try out Wordpress? What was your experience there?
I thought webflow allowed you to save your project using the Account plan but not publish it to a domain. You're saying it doesn't and that I have to buy hosting from them to do that?
You can have some unpublished sites on your account for free, yes! But there is a limit to how many you can have (5 I think)
@@PaytonClarkSmith I want to use webflow to design my website and then move it somewhere else for hosting. I was going to buy the unlimited account plan ($35/month charged yearly).
However, if I needed to make changes, I wanted to have the backup in webflow so that I could make them and re-deploy again as needed. Would that work?
sorry i'm still confused because i'm not good with all this tech stuff. When you are talking about pricing is it for the account plans on webflow? do you have to get both a site plan and an account plan?
also can you own your domain name on webflow?
and another thing (sorry) you are just renting your hosting from webflow right ? but if you own a hosting can you have it on webflow ? (does that make anysense ?)
Hey Katy, Payton is talking about the "Site Plan" which includes site security, bandwidth, 100 pages, form submissions etc. Yes, you can host your own domain on Webflow, you will need to point your DNS servers to Webflow from the platform you purchased your domains on. Yeah essentially you're renting hosting with them. If you have your own hosting, you can buy the "Account Plans" so you can export your Webflow site to your own hosting provider (even though it will be harder to make changes to the site afterwards - as Payton suggested in the video). Hope this helps!
Thank you Michael Vereb
Can’t you duplicate the site and then export new code after edits?
Would i be able to use a lite account to export my code to another site (including cms, html, java, css, ect) and then change it back to a free account until i need to make changes to the website and then upgrade back to lite? I can make little tweaks in the html code itself but i would like the ability to edit without having it hosted with their expensive hosting plans. Am i on the right track?
How to Charge small businesses For WEBFLOW managment? any videos or advice?
So cant you keep the client website on your account, if there are any changes, you can change that and export and upload? is exporting and uploading a webflow site that hard?
Hi! Love your videos. They are extremely useful.
I am starting out as a web designer and have made a few websites in Webflow.
I am wondering if upgrading to a paid hosting plan for my website would make sense to create trust with potential clients.
What are your thoughts on that?
How well would you say is Webflow to start an eCommerce? And what would be the total cost monthly for hosting and CMS?
It's very sad that a RUclipsr with 3k subs dont reply to questions like this... I'm working on an eCommerce website rn and its going well. I think the hosting is not more than 40 bucks a month and I guess the CMS is already included in the pack.
Lol I dont think he's spending his time scouring the comments trying to build some huge channel....
Webflow is not the place to go for e-commerce hosting. Use a service like Shopify, BigCommerce, or even Squarespace. In the end, it will be cheaper with the same capabilities.
"I am nor paid for this Video" - I dont believe you. Webflow does not cost "a couple of dollars" more than others - it costs lot more. If you want to team up with another person it cost 70 (seventy) dollars per month!
Baad Taste if you check the title of the video you’ll see I’m talking about site hosting, not team plans. Site hosting is $12-20/mo for a regular site on an unpaid plan. :)
@@PaytonClarkSmith The prices for regular web-hosting varies. The usual fee is about 1 to 3 $ a month. A "few" would refer to 2 or 3 - not ten. A lot of the "perks" you mention are not special but usually comes with any hosting package. Sorry about being rude, but I just found the pricing of the total "Weblow experience" confusing and misleading. Also I should have read your position with more care. It clearly states "honest, unsponsored" not mentioning biased ;-)
I stared learning Webflow and as such it is good, but the pricing clearly aims for larger companies: just check the price for e-commerce. Pity then that the marketing seems to be aimed at small entrepreneurs and an age group below 25 (just guessing from the Webflow univesrity jokes) Next time I will check prices more closely before I invest days of my life on the wrong software.
Baad Taste why not direct your concerns (and rage) towards Webflow? Payton is simply praising a product he stands behind. It’s called brand advocacy.
Baad Taste I would be curious to know what other software you use to design and build websites! I know there are plenty out there. I haven’t found one with the design capabilities or the user friendliness when it comes to the CMS and editor dashboard (that’s really what you are paying for with the hosting). Luckily I have never had a client that has any issues with the hosting prices because they are always thrilled with what they got with Webflow!
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Hi! What do You think about Wordpress? I was tought Wordpress in a CMS course I took back here in Sweden. I think WP is actually the worst, everything is total desaster, I was wondering tho because I saw Webflow as a widget in Wordpress I could make some money on building in Webflow but still have access to Woo Commerce in Wordpress. Does Webflow have their own ”Woo commerce”, or somekind of webshop that you can use?
It does have a e-commerce feature but I believe it charges a higher price for hosting a e-commerce store.
I think alike, the only thing I am not liking now, is the e-commerce hosting.
Yeah I think it is a bit pricey. I feel like you get your money’s worth but a lot of people would rather pay less for an e-commerce store somewhere else and sacrifice the design capabilities of Webflow.
What if i want to add custom styles or layouts and i have to change the html/css code for that? Is there is possibility that i can still host the website on webflow? How you deal with clients that have special needs that webflow cannot satisfy?
Yes you can add custom code to your Webflow projects! I have found workarounds for pretty much everything I have ever needed.
The workarounds begin the second you try to use any of their components, which are outdated and unacceptable in many cases. And that's worth extra money?
This might be a dumb question but I'm really new to Webflow and want to learn more. Why can't you just go back into the Webflow editor and export the code again when you are not hosting with them? Also, how does the SSL help with SEO? Thanks for the great video!
Not a dumb question at all! You totally could just build it in web flow and then export the code and host it somewhere else! The only bummer with that is then you can’t get back into web flow to make edits and you won’t be able to utilize the CMS editor to pass access to your clients. But if you don’t need those things then you totally could export! As far as SSL goes, Google doesn’t like to rank sites that aren’t secure. Google doesn’t want to serve up unsecure site we have to do.
Nothing but a completely static site works outside of webflow hosting. Even simple forms won't work. Sounds like a good deal, doesn't it?
You can edit it if you use udesly
Solid advice 👏
Derick Moncado thanks Derick! I appreciate it
What do u think about bluehost and wordpress and buying a template rather than designing ur own?
Fantastic the best layout of info re hosting
Well said.
Sure, that's the marketing trap Webflow has set. If you export it to a far cheaper host, a lot of features, including client-editing, don't work. Don't use Webflow to build a site at all, problem solved. Same client benefits with Wordpress with a couple plugins at a much smaller price point. The other claims you make about the supposed fast load times and so on are unsupported by any impartial body. Webflow is just like Apple. Drink the kool-aid and pay through the nose into eternity. Oh, and comparing Webflow to the word cheapo hosting service in the universe is obviously a straw man argument.
As I'm researching Webflow, I appreciate your cautionary perspective, among the sea of positive gushing 'FlowFANS. Webflow is inordinately expensive, full-stop. The business model is, in essence, buying a cheap awesome printer and then being raped on ink carts (hosting). Let's be real: hosting is a CHEAP commodity, no matter how it's marketed. They did build an arguably sexier interface for building no-code websites in a visual way-this is the only reason I'm taking a look under the hood, at all. The issue I have as a designer is that I like to try things out and tinker a lot with things before I commit to them-and I also tend to want to own my tools. Cloud-based SaaS tools need to be something I simply can't live without, and right now that's constrained to Adobe CC.
Webflow's marketing position is a bit disingenuous, at best. To say that it's free to try, well... not to any reasonable empirical end result. You get 2 small projects, constrained to two pages. This is sufficient enough to learn the platform but doesn't really allow you to create a soup-to-nuts design project of any kind. In order to jump aboard the love train, it's going to cost you the monthly plan, plus hosting. "You're just going to have to commit, but it's soooo awesome!" And if you're a freelancer who wants to join what amounts to an MLM, it might be worth it. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-level_marketing
@@SR-ih1be I'd been trying to get on the Webflow bus for a good 3 months. I have a decent knowledge of CSS and found the interface unfamiliar and counterintuitive. I was soldiering on deleting projects as I learned the program. I never came to like the interface, or accept the hype as many of this simplest things I can easily hand code, such as a "learn more" link at the end of a paragraph, must be hand-coded. Just a pain in the butt all around. Then some random guy mentioned in a comment of a youtube video about Webflow vs X Editor something called Oxygenbuilder for wordpress. Within a week I'd bought it (169 one- time payment, unlimited sites, including ecommerce) Far easier to my mind to use than Webflow, much cheaper, and their basic components are actually useful, easy to tweak, and work as expected. Seems WP has come a long way and resolved many of the issues that made it a pain to work with in the past.
@@SR-ih1be You've captured the essence of Webflow quite well there. I've been loving the designer but the hosting plans and features are often ambiguous and they seem to charge what they can which is fuelled by their marketing hype and adoring fans. During the past 3 years I've constantly dealt with an evangelical "we-can-do-no-wrong" attitude. I lost one client that was unhappy with Webflow and they ending up using a WP developer. I managed to get a credit back to my webflow account from the unused annual hosting. It was like Webflow was doing me a huge favour to give me a credit that I could only use with them because there was a limitation with THIER system (no Multi-Reference Field support on CSV Import). It was a one-time refund that came with a warning that in future I should probably use monthly billing. This would further increase the hosting cost which includes dealing with international bank fees because they don't support non-native currency. But there is always a silver lining, they now support Multi-Reference Field support on CSV Import after being in their wishlist for over 3 years! Halleluiah!
Do you let the client pay for the hosting?
Yeah. They have a client billing system.
What do you think about WordPress webflow plugin.
I don't think it's worth it. You have to pay the hosting in webflow and in Wordpress. Unless you are fine with the "made in webflow" badge in your site. Try udesly.
@@sebas-garro that's not entirely true. I've got a pro account for webflow, but i'm not paying for the webflow hosting. Instead i'm paying for wordpress and use the plugin. And simply hide the "made in webflow" badge with some custom code.
You could've just edited the webflow site and exported it again🤨
Bro talked shit for 99% if video
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Salomontool.com...... is using webflow and is nor working I already pay and pay for my Domain and Home that I have here is very different than home that you have in internet.....................Publish that I have here do nor work properly
To be honest loads of nonesence here. You are trying to convince people to move to webflow. Name one reputed hosting company who doesn't offer any of those what you hv mentioned? #goodtry
make a web flow tutorials python u can
project webflow105 can you explain more?
@@PaytonClarkSmith i mean i am saying u guys are inspiring if u make tutorials