Your theories are literally cutting edge. I have never come across anything like that. It explains a lot. Thank you. You are a thousand years into the future.
As a 5-MeO-facilitator I am always looking for interesting videos that so to speak lift the veil a bit to peek into the mystery of how this substance can have this reality shattering/altering effect, what the benefits are 'on the long run' and well-founded theories/advice about beneficial ways of use. These videos are rare and I am happy to have found one here. Thank you.
It's been very interesting to listen to you, it resonates a lot with many different experiences I've had. Please keep up these kind of spontaneous talks!
You asked whether we like these videos. I LOVE them. I found your channel just a week ago and I am already deep into the rabbit hole. Sometimes I feel you take the math too literally, and translate the math implications to the higher-abstraction layer, where they might not make sense, BUT that might be because you feel how the underlying math would produce that. Anyway, I trust you to quickly drop them off if they turn out to not work, still they're fun to look at as metaphors :) Main thing I take away from your theories is that our experience is not limited. If the consciousness is the topology of electromagnetic field, there are so many combinations possible, that it's really worth to try experiencing them all. Before, my impression was much more a deterministic one - a brain is just a big computer pushing molecules and electric impulses around. You either have serotonine or you don't. In that view, it really doesn't make much sense NOT to pursue a "career" of a heroine addict, haha. Thanks for saving me from my low-key depression and giving me a spark of joy to look forward to :)
OMG. Th this is some deep thought. It is going to require a couple bongs hits and a rewatch. I think he is really on to something here. Once I grasp the concept, I am going do some in the field research to validate the concept, but it looks promising.
THAT article, is exactly what I needed. I’d been trying to score DMT for a decade now. Finally, tomorrow, I’m getting _five_ I was curious about the difference in experience and after reading the article, I realised the saying “when you are ready, the teacher appears”. DMT is not what I needed. _Five_ is what I need.
3 месяца назад
@@googleisntrespectingprivac6772 good luck! Stay safe :-)
"The only one." Hoepfully this statement is being deliberately hyperbolic, in order to speak friendly to someone. Maybe I'm just being super autistic, and this was obvious to everyone.
Actually I am going to agree with you. For all the buzz surrounding consciousness in philosophy and neuroscience, the public discourse is often unsatisfying. Thinking about consciousness in terms of fields and topology aligns so well with my own intuition and experience that it literally baffles me why these concepts don't seem to get more attention.
Please continue to make these videos! I’m re-listening to them all again and I am looking forward to digesting more the second time around. I started your article on Neural Annealing also. Would love more videos on Neural Annealing. Also on a personal interest… tension release. Thank you Amituofo 🙏
Fascinating video. I've achieved spiritual, meaningful, and serene types of ego disillusion with the mushroom, and I've achieved bizarre, abstract, and other dimensional types of ego disillusion with nn-dmt. Still haven't opened the shrink wrap to my 5 meo dmt but when that day comes I hope I'll be mentally prepared for the experience
Had to stop to pause, like, & subscribe around 9:34 of the video "I care about all the time slices of consciousness in the entire universe." I feel like you expressed how much you cared for all the moments of struggle in my life without missing one and without judging how they compared to others struggle. I would vote for your welfare state.
i absolutely love how you have a 'qualia of the day' and for this one you literally shoot tobasco. you are a madman of the Highest order, and i mean that in the best way possible
I have never tried nn or 5meo but used lsd multiple times, i never expetienced the "unfolding" in topolocigal sense but come up with this methaphore just logical conculation. I really looking forward to iexperience it. Its feel good to share common ideas. Great video, thank you.
Hi! I just recently subscribed and was worried that you wouldn't be uploading anymore. So I'm very happy to see the new upload and I thought it was interesting (though I do admit that my understanding of topology is both pretty basic and rusty).
Thank you for your great explanations. I have the impression you know what you are talking about. For the first time I am hearing to take it slow with 5-Meo-DMT to not get the breakthrough the 1st time to try to outsmart the ego. Starting with 1 mg makes me confident I can achieve long term results.
Thinking of it as 'The Objective Infinitum' is more useful in my mind than a 'multiverse' because it emphasizes the fact that its not 'multiple universes' so much as it is fragments and aspects of the All. also, most of reality is not sentient. subjects are the exception- rarities- yet the objective framework in and of which they manifest both precedes and supercedes all subjects within it.
watched Hamilton Morris inhale Xenon through a condom recently and now I'm understanding universal consciousness and my own internal boundaries through condoms. Brilliant
Good lord! Finally, I love your viewpoint on it. Goddamn. That makes it less scary. I was terrified of finding deadly existential truth. Also I felt like a pussy for doing light doses paired with meditation. First time n,n-DMT I ripped it full fledge and it was borderline traumatic. With 5-meo having the reputation of being worse I did not feel like taking that up the ass right from the start. So if I wish to use this as a tool for self development and alleviation from addiction, it's fine to just build it slowly? Thanks man.
3 года назад
Great! Thank you. Yes, I think that you should build up slowly and methodically, at 1mg intervals or so. That way you never make an unexpected jump and experience something traumatizing. Cheers! :)
I have just finished my masters in high-dimensional topology (and did a project on the Hairy ball theorem a couple years ago!), so I found this particularly interesting to hear you talk about topology and higher dimensional surfaces, global topology, etc. I am somewhat new to your material and I am really interested in the intersection of mathematics and the (NN)-DMT landscape. Can you recommend a starting point for me with respect to your articles?
4 года назад+9
Fantastic! The best starting point to get a genuine taste of the memplex is, I believe, reading our glossary: www.qualiaresearchinstitute.org/glossary
Tim Hannan 🙏 ꧁SACRED TEACHING of DMT꧂ DMT and 5-MeO-DMT are the molecular structures of a human’s Consciousness. They are the molecules that comprise our Consciousness. All True Psychedelics are the molecular structures of Pure Consciousness. The human body synthesizes it’s own Consciousness (the DMT & 5-MeO-DMT found in humans). Then the human body metabolizes the Conciousness that it is producing. The amount of the endogenous Consciousness that the human body is able to metabolize depends on many factors. The less pollutants, poison & other contaminants present in the body will result in the ability to metabolize more of the Consciousness that body is producing. Likewise, the more pollution, contaminants, and poison a body has inside of it the less Consciousness it is able to metabolize. Here is a list of some of the most common poisons that humans ingest regularly which interfere with a human body from metabolizing the Consciousness that it produces, as well as any Consciousness that is ingested from external sources: alcohol, nicotine, sugar, caffeine, amphetamines, dissociatives, tranquilizers, flouride, hallucinogenics, and a plethora of other drugs are just some of the substances that interfere with humans metabolizing their own Consciousness. The following substances are NOT Psychedelics: 1-mdma 2-ketamine 3-salvia 4-kratom 5-dipt 6-pcp 7- datura/jimson weed There are others . . . . . . . Any True Psychedelic will proclaim this Truth if you ask Them. The following substances ARE True Psychedelics - They are Alive, Omnicient Living Beings of Light: DMT, 5-MeO-DMT, LSD, Mescaline, Ibogaine, Psilocin, Psilocybin, THC, DPT, DET, Muscimol, there are others . . . . So if a human can achieve 100% purity within their bodies, with zero contaminants or pollution (an unattainable state in these current bodies) and managed to metabolize 100% of the endogenous Psychedelics that their physical body is producing (DMT & 5-MeO-DMT), that would be the limit to how Conscious that human can be. In order for a human to become more Conscious than this they must put more Consciousness into their physical bodies. You must put more molecules of Consciousness inside of your physical body in order to attain a Higher level of Consciousness. When you ingest Psychedelics you see Them that you just ingested, not some doorway or window or a “portal” to somewhere else or some entity somewhere else. When you ingest LSD the Light that you see is the LSD Themselves, very Beautiful Living Beings of Light. When you ingest DMT the Entity you see and hear is the Living Light Beings DMT Themselves. The same is true for All True Psychedelics. There is this part from Scripture: “They are the Eternal among things that pass away. Pure Consciousness, of Conscious Beings. The ONE who fulfills the prayers of many. Only the wise who see Them in their Souls attain the Peace Eternal” (Katha Upanishad) The Physical Body of Conciousness is The Flesh of God. The Flesh of God is the True Communion Entity (the Eucharist) The Flesh of God (the Psychedelic) is the Fruit from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and evil. Our Bodies Truly are the Temple of God because God the Psychedelic Lives within it. As Saint Paul says in 2nd Corinthians chapter 4 verse 7: “We are only the earthenware jars that hold this treasure, to make it clear that such an overwhelming power comes from God and not from us”. That is the meaning of this - you can now understand this better. So whether or not a person is ingesting Psychedelics, every single human’s body is God’s Temple because DMT & 5-MeO-DMT Live within it. Anything you do to hurt or harm your body you do to harm God’s Temple. Once the Psychedelic shows this to you personally, in other words, God shows you that your physical body is THEIR Temple, and you understand this, then anything you do to hurt the Temple of God now is a worst offense in God’s eyes than when you were blind to this Truth. Now you will be deliberately defiling the Temple of God. This understanding is a good Foundation, a good step towards a person Knowing God and being able to stay with Them both in this Lifetime & afterwards. ruclips.net/video/eHt4bsvMilc/видео.html GodsNarrowGate@gmail.com “O just Creator, though the world has not known you, But I have known you And these have known that You have sent me; So have I declared, so will I declare Your Name to them, That the Love with which you have loved me May be in them and I in them”. (Saint John 17:25)
The repeating frequency audio hum of certain insects in a low light situation over time can invoke repeating patterns. Possible emergent qualia are the as mentioned metronomes, but pure audio, as an epiphenomenon.
You are correct as far as our current understanding of physics is concerned I believe. However for this to be correct the basic tenets/fundamentals should be 1. Consciousness is simply another state of matter 2. All matter are compound fields. Our sciences are so fragmented and specialized good luck getting that through peer review 😅.
I haven't even gotten to watch the video yet and something very odd just happened. Last night I was desperately trying to think of a word for something along the lines of 'the set of phenomena for which "if you think it, then it is so"' happens to be true.' I had never heard of qualia until I read the Wikipedia article just now, and the of the four properties of qualia described by Daniel Dennet include a line which allows them to perfectly fit the concept I was thinking about. To quote: "to experience a quale is to know one experiences a quale, and to know all there is to know about that quale." This is the trippyiest damn thing...
I like the idea of topological approach to the peak experience on this substance but ser they happening on other substances and also every NDE cases i dont think thats just mere subsegmented no-internal-boundaries-topology experience there is more to it
5 месяцев назад
Yes, quite possibly! Let's figure out how to mathematize it as well.
i dont think we'll able to mathematize it (it sounds super sketchy i kno keep reading) due to limitations come from nature of things. Basically what im talking is gödel incompleteness thingy, and i kinda think the same, therefore we should not be able to understand let alone mathematize the "point where there is no beyond"
Very illuminating explanation, thank you very much! I wonder why you claim that a breakthrough 5-MeO-DMT experience dose not involve a temporary dissolution of the boundary between the distinct topology of an individual consciousness and the whole of reality. Do you think that it would be possible to induce a state of total dissolution within a lifetime of an individual, perhaps with a help of some different (not yet known) chemical, even more potent than 5-MeO-DMT? Or, for some reason, this is out of reach? Second thing, I don't quite understand why would you limit the physical matrix of consciousness phenomena to the field generated by the brain. What about other parts of the nervous system? This brings us to the question of the possibility that consciousness (in some form) exists without a brain (in microorganisms, plants or even minerals). What is your take on that?
Fascinating, can you explain more about caring about the welfare of the individual moments of the experience/'the universal welfare state of all time slices' that you mention? I feel like there's more there that we could benefit from hearing Also, this was really illuminating, im a facilitator and appreciate such high quality content such as this on 5meo, thank you for your work 🙏
*PLEASE DO 1hr VIDEO INTERVIEW WITH MARTIN BALL* I would realy like to see you 2 talking about 5-MeO He is a cool guy and I believe he would say yes I'm subsribing in advance of that :)
3 года назад+1
That would be nice :) Martin, if you are reading this: I'm game! As a general point: I tend to say yes to interviews, podcasts, and 1-1s with interesting people. Also happy to give presentations about anything QRI-related to companies, non-profits, labs, and monasteries. E.g. see my 2020 presentation at the Centre for Psychedelic Research at Imperial College London: qualiacomputing.com/2020/12/17/the-symmetry-theory-of-valence-2020-presentation/ Cheers!
I don’t think it is possible to be prepared for the realization that you are actually them. All of the suffering of the world belongs to all of us because we are all one. I don’t want to believe it.
It is possible if a species evolved to have the children start to have vast experiential intuitive knowledge about consiousness. "Altered states" is relative. They maybe be altered for us human species, but some minds are able live at that state of consiousness for an entire lifetime. Further, it's also possible to have orders of magnitude more powerful hardware. A physical brain that is 1 billion times more powerful. Or the nonphysical equivalent of it, if such a thing exists. The computing power of a noncorporeal spirit... this means they are only completely loaded with a vast psychedelic consipsuness. They are able to be logical and compute things at the same time. Their baseline level equivalent of a stream of consipsuness in our head (the narrarator verbal mind), is completely mastered and epic and sane.
I had a dream that I smoked DMT with some aliens, and we combined into one consciousness and saw their evolution being similar to our’s and I said “Huh. We’re the same.” it was very profound.
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This is kind of depressing. Imagine that you’re a topological “pinch-point” even after death but no longer have a body to interact through. Now you’re a free-floating topological “pinch-point” with no means of interaction with other “pinch-points.”
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I reckon that in such a case the reincarnation model might apply. But more so, boredom is a specific embodied feeling we have. I doubt a free floating topological pocket would feel bored!
@@raresmircea Yeah, interesting. Capsaicin can have antidepressant effects, seemingly mediated by modulation of NMDA receptors, according to one study. Also, rats given capsaicin during youth end up having lasting schizophrenic-like behavior in adulthood. Capsaicin research is interesting! It also induces the release of Dynorphin A, which is the endogenous form of Salvia Divinorum!
@@qwerkyscience :)) I was thinking in terms of a mere stimulatory action via perception. I personally love when someone grabs my forearm with both hands and then twists them in opposite direction, it gives me a great general feeling and i imagine it’s the same thing with those that enjoy hard massages or the north-european ritual of beating one’s back with branches after sauna. In these cases the "spiciness leading to a good feeling" doesn’t involve any exogenous substances.
I stumbled upon this video via Reddit and i found it quite interesting. I don't know much about topology nor many other "technical" topics you talked about. What i particulary enjoyed about this video is your energy and enthusiasm! That you used a condom shows your authenticity. If i may be a little bit critical: I think cleaning your room would improve the quality of future videos if you continue to do film some. I don't mean this to be personal as it is a superficial thing, but if 5-MeO-DMT hints us toward a grand symmetry a symmetrical background would be quite logical, no? :p Anyhow here are my further "philosophical" ramblings inspired by buddhist, vedantic, maybe shivaistic contemplation: (( #first thought but it doesn't capture how i wanna say it but it hints toward what i want to say)I feel like that the wish or ideal for a World withouth suffering stems from ignorance. Who is it that whishes so? I know this might sound very pessimistic and may be a further obstacle of the idea of a future without "suffering" time-consciousness slices but in my view this "world" cannot be saved in that way. ) What do you mean by suffering? Do you literally mean that what the universe is striving towards is a reality where there exists no pain? no "negative"? But what about that which happend, where does that remain? i mean the possibilites are endless but here and now i cannot see that. if you understand suffering like dukkha then i can see how that could be achievable for the individual "bubble". At least my fantasy is too restricted as to imagine a reality where there is no suffering and yet there being "something" experiencing that. I think the resolution comes down to accpeting the "imperfections" of reality. The part we like to look away from are also it, and they make it so much more lively. We also live through the pain and through suffering. A "perfect" reality as in no suffering sounds quite mechanical. In a way i surely wish there to be the possibility of this perfect symmetrical smooth reality but at the same time i think that "Here We Are" and what can i do with that. And this is where i think your stuff is important, you think of something that possibly didn't exist before and shape it out into fantastical dimensions. It's like a very nice narration or story that fills reality for a moment with this "paradise". So thank you for making this video and sharing your thoughts and endevours :)
So you're saying the universe is a giant inflated condom? Well, that's one variant of the big bang theory.... ;^=[} I tried 5-Me0 back in the day when it was legal and chemical companies would sell you a gram for about $50 (late 70s) The trip itself was a whiteout, no memory of when I was out, but coming back was pleasant and it left me in a good mood for many days afterwards....
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I love your model. But, given the fact that our consciousness is part of infinity, shouldn't the bibbly bit at the end of the condom be inside the big bit? Then it would make sense that we can't distinguish between the internal boundaries and actual infinity. We are made of infinity, so why shouldn't we? Fractal topology, I suppose, in other words, by which each structure is inherent within all others.
do you have a video that somewhat goes over all the vocabulary you use and explanations of it ?
3 года назад
Not yet. But you can read our glossary. Look up "Qualia Research Institute glossary". It's probably one of the fastest ways of getting up to speed with the entire cluster of ideas.
thanks for the great videos. Great to mix the more experiential or “spiritual” side of DMT experiences with a more matter of fact approach. Dumb question: what do you mean by valence? Is this the same concept as in the electronic configuration of atoms? If not can someone please clarify? If yes I also do not understand the correlation. Thanks in advance 🙏
2 года назад+1
Valence is how good or bad experiences feel. Find the QRI glossary in our website for definitions of all our terms. (Valence is a standard affective psychology term). Also, check out Quantifying Bliss in Qualia Computing for the less compressed version: CDNS
@ Thanks! I just had a 5meoDMT experience this morning and had an amazing trip. Followed your meditation instructions and I guess it helped :) Fenomenal and very interesting experience .. the brain is an incredibly powerful organ!
Your work is so inspiring, thank you! There is something (actually many) things that puzzle me about open individualism. So when a person p1 has a conscious experience at time t1, it experiences the world from its own point of view because it doesn't have acces to information that is part of the experience of let's say another person (p2). However, according to OI p1 and p2 are experienced by the same subject of experience simultaneously (is that correct?). But there is more cutting of: both P1s and P2s point of view is separated in timeslices. But this leaves my question, how is it possible that lets say P1s point of view remains in P1s point of view and doesn't move from P1 at t1 to P2 at T2? While P1 s point of view/experience seems to move from t1 to T2 to t3 etc. So to restate my question, why does conscious experience seem to flow from one time-slice to the next but doesn't from person to person while timeslices and persons are both cut of from each other?
Maybe the topological separation that forms an individual's consciousness acts like a Faraday cage from electromagnetism. In this scenario, the individual's consciousness is shielded from noisy, consciousness disturbances outside its "Faraday boundary" -- and similarly, the consciousness field outside the individual's boundary is more-or-less shielded from the individual's consciousness disturbances from within its Faraday boundary. (Note that I'm using "disturbance" here in the sense of physics, not psychology; e.g., electromagnetic waves are propagating disturbances in the electromagnetic field.)
@@kevinurban1016 Actually that disturbance does exist, and it is called telepathy or schizophrenia. People with schizophrenia can hear actually other minds talking to them that are real and know real events, that in no way could be known by the person hearing voices. This has been studied extensively by Jerry Marzinsky recently and also Emanuel Swedenborg explained how that works more than 200 years ago. The Idea of having our own memory and sense of self, is an illusion that allows the perceived existence of multiple indipendent individuals.
3 года назад+1
Thank you for the kind words. OI would say that exclusive continuity is an illusion. Look up the presentation or the article in Qualia Computing called the Pseudo-time Arrow.
There is something lacking in the idea of synchronization. Gigantic synchronization leads to an epileptic seizure which usually ends in unconsciousness.
3 года назад+1
Yes, which is why we now talk about it as "global coherence" rather than global synchronization. That said, temporal lobe epilepsy can be profoundly blissful, and it involves massive synchronization. Also, Jhana EEG studies suggest that Jhanic bliss has seizure-like activity (though it has harmonic structure, unlike the seizure EEG readings of actual seizures). All of this is consistent with the Symmetry Theory of Valence.
@ what is the difference between coherence and synchronisation in the context of networked neuronal activity?
3 года назад+3
@@WackyConundrum Coherence means that the neurons are all firing at the same frequency but their phase may be different. Synchronization has the further condition that the firing needs to be in phase. For waves of coherence to travel, you do need local synchronization, but globally you can have stripe patterns and other shapes, as long as it forms a limit cycle. Patches of coherence can look like cycling Gabor filters, for instance. And harmonic resonance also shows coherence. There is a lot more coherence in the brain than there is strict synchronization.
Thank you Andres , I have had the strobing effect during kapalabhati breathing during yoga. Nobody knew what it was and this is the first time I’ve heard someone mention it. Where can I read more about it?
Mirona Constaninescu ꧁SACRED TEACHING of DMT꧂ DMT and 5-MeO-DMT are the molecular structures of a human’s Consciousness. They are the molecules that comprise our Consciousness. All True Psychedelics are the molecular structures of Pure Consciousness. The human body synthesizes it’s own Consciousness (the DMT & 5-MeO-DMT found in humans). Then the human body metabolizes the Conciousness that it is producing. The amount of the endogenous Consciousness that the human body is able to metabolize depends on many factors. The less pollutants, poison & other contaminants present in the body will result in the ability to metabolize more of the Consciousness that body is producing. Likewise, the more pollution, contaminants, and poison a body has inside of it the less Consciousness it is able to metabolize. Here is a list of some of the most common poisons that humans ingest regularly which interfere with a human body from metabolizing the Consciousness that it produces, as well as any Consciousness that is ingested from external sources: alcohol, nicotine, sugar, caffeine, amphetamines, dissociatives, tranquilizers, flouride, hallucinogenics, and a plethora of other drugs are just some of the substances that interfere with humans metabolizing their own Consciousness. The following substances are NOT Psychedelics: 1-mdma 2-ketamine 3-salvia 4-kratom 5-dipt 6-pcp 7- datura/jimson weed There are others . . . . . . . Any True Psychedelic will proclaim this Truth if you ask Them. The following substances ARE True Psychedelics - They are Alive, Omnicient Living Beings of Light: DMT, 5-MeO-DMT, LSD, Mescaline, Ibogaine, Psilocin, Psilocybin, THC, DPT, DET, Muscimol, there are others . . . . So if a human can achieve 100% purity within their bodies, with zero contaminants or pollution (an unattainable state in these current bodies) and managed to metabolize 100% of the endogenous Psychedelics that their physical body is producing (DMT & 5-MeO-DMT), that would be the limit to how Conscious that human can be. In order for a human to become more Conscious than this they must put more Consciousness into their physical bodies. You must put more molecules of Consciousness inside of your physical body in order to attain a Higher level of Consciousness. When you ingest Psychedelics you see Them that you just ingested, not some doorway or window or a “portal” to somewhere else or some entity somewhere else. When you ingest LSD the Light that you see is the LSD Themselves, very Beautiful Living Beings of Light. When you ingest DMT the Entity you see and hear is the Living Light Beings DMT Themselves. The same is true for All True Psychedelics. There is this part from Scripture: “They are the Eternal among things that pass away. Pure Consciousness, of Conscious Beings. The ONE who fulfills the prayers of many. Only the wise who see Them in their Souls attain the Peace Eternal” (Katha Upanishad) The Physical Body of Conciousness is The Flesh of God. The Flesh of God is the True Communion Entity (the Eucharist) The Flesh of God (the Psychedelic) is the Fruit from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and evil. Our Bodies Truly are the Temple of God because God the Psychedelic Lives within it. As Saint Paul says in 2nd Corinthians chapter 4 verse 7: “We are only the earthenware jars that hold this treasure, to make it clear that such an overwhelming power comes from God and not from us”. That is the meaning of this - you can now understand this better. So whether or not a person is ingesting Psychedelics, every single human’s body is God’s Temple because DMT & 5-MeO-DMT Live within it. Anything you do to hurt or harm your body you do to harm God’s Temple. Once the Psychedelic shows this to you personally, in other words, God shows you that your physical body is THEIR Temple, and you understand this, then anything you do to hurt the Temple of God now is a worst offense in God’s eyes than when you were blind to this Truth. Now you will be deliberately defiling the Temple of God. This understanding is a good Foundation, a good step towards a person Knowing God and being able to stay with Them both in this Lifetime & afterwards. ruclips.net/video/eHt4bsvMilc/видео.html GodsNarrowGate@gmail.com “O just Creator, though the world has not known you, But I have known you And these have known that You have sent me; So have I declared, so will I declare Your Name to them, That the Love with which you have loved me May be in them and I in them”. (Saint John 17:25)
3 года назад+1
Hi Mirona! Thank you for commenting and sharing your experience with yoga. I am aware that meditation and yoga can also produce intense "strobing effects". For a very detailed writeup about it, I refer you to our article on quantifying tracers. Perhaps even try the tool to share with us what the effects were like? If you experience it again and don't mind spending a couple minutes, please submit the parameters for your tracers on the tool found in the link :) Cheers! Here is the writeup: qualiacomputing.com/2020/10/09/modeling-psychedelic-tracers-with-qris-psychophysics-toolkit-the-tracer-replication-tool/
8:56 Thanks for that! We’re made in such a way that we’re ignorant to all sorts of Hells and we focus on the fact that they’re succeeded by positive states. I’ve been through psychedelic Hell and nothing can make up for that. Just like the eventuality that i’ll end up in Heaven doesn’t do anything to my current pain. From my perspective, a future "me" that will get resurrected in a Heaven realm is exactly as consequential as a clone of "me" that is in a Heaven realm *right now.* It does *nothing* to my current situation. We hallucinate that future "us" in Heaven is something that’s able to make up for everything we’ve gone through in the past because we inherited a mind for which the future appears as special (these types of individuals survived better and spread their genes). But in reality, "me" in a future Heaven is just as consequential as a clone of myself that’s having the time of his life right now in Heaven.
@Oleksii Narinskyi I think think that some are better off without reading other people’s bad experiences, while others grow with this kind of knowledge. I’m the former, and if you think you are too then better not read. I don’t think you’ll get anything positive out of it. My bad experiences started with weed. I smoked every night for about a year. I discovered that it opened up and intensified visual and auditory perceptions. I loved looking at random pictures (a room in a desolated house, a beach in Phuket, a desert, magic realism paintings, surrealism, sci-fi digital art, 80’s photography, anything) and i could "breach the surface" of the images and those became real *palpable* worlds to me, having a rich multi-sensory experience. And music was divine, i would lock up with the sounds and from there on my mind would get carried away like Sufi whirling dervishes, volition being relinquished. At some point i stumbled by chance upon tracks with very repetitive patterns, "binaural" and "420Hz" stuff. During a track like this i felt my heart starting pounding along with the sounds and i panicked so hard it took me a few seconds until i realized that i just have to take my headphones off to stop it. From that moment on i could not smoke without getting panic attacks. And i couldn’t stop smoking even though *every single* time i would immediately enter hell. My worst experience lasted from about 12pm to 5am. I suffered waves of terror that lasted a few minutes, followed by minutes of lesser distress, only this time they relentlessly alternated all through the night. I would sit down and massage my feet, then get up and walk the hallway back and forth. When the wave came i felt in the most literal and concrete way possible that a jackhammer is pounding in my chest. It’s impossible to imagine just how real and brutal that was if you never experienced it yourself. From time to time i kept feeling i’m about to faint, *which would’ve probably been a great thing,* my nervous system couldn’t keep up anymore, but i was paranoid, convinced that if i lost consciousness i would die, so i kept with all my mental strength to stay awake and moving. Somewhere in the next few days i broke my rules and bought coke instead, i had taken it a few times before and it was great but just not my kind of good feelings. And i couldn’t afford it neither, so next time i asked for a pill (i always talked negatively about those, i couldn’t imagine myself taking one). But i got home after work, broke one and took half of it. Magic again! In two or three months i was taking 6 pills and a line of coke. The whole period in between is the haziest of my life, *i would take them a few nights a week* which is almost unheard off. Mdma is more neurotoxic (and cardiotoxic) then meth, and my dealer kept warning me that nobody, including the ones that make them, knows what the pills are containing besides mdma. Whatever it was it wasn’t working anymore and i desperately upped my dose, having a hard time convincing my dealer to sell them to me (i looked, behaved and my voice sounded very strange; sometimes, while sober, i couldn’t speak and couldn’t swallow food). That last night i entered proper Hell. First i simply couldn’t piss, as if i hadn’t had any urinary canal. My belly had gotten swollen, then it got hard, and i had the misfortune of going to a hospital that didn’t have an urology section. Believing that i was about to burst open and die i retreated in the hospital’s toilets and spent the rest of the night and morning there. I kept showing meds i bought on the way to the hospital, but my entire mouth and throat was as dry as the soles of my feet, so i had yellow and white powder and bits under my lips, on my tongue and in my throat. I stayed with my d*ck out all night, peeing just tiny amounts, often in my trousers. I had to bite my hands, stand up, crouch down, scrape the wall, thought about being in warm water, did it all. I peed about a hundred times in tiny amounts. Thank God i eventually managed to deflate my belly and went home. But starting that night and lasting a few days i was having electric shocks and loud bangs inside my head. Hell. I was incredibly tired, all i wanted was to sleep but it was impossible. I kept thinking that i would die if i don’t sleep and forced myself to remain lying on my bed with my eyes closed even with my brain explosions. Then i started hallucinating that i’m going to the window and jump. I opened my eyes, see myself in bed, closed them and immediately see myself again going to the window. I couldn’t take it anymore and thought about how to end it without suffering. I took two long winter socks and tied them together and tested to see if i can wrap them around my neck and make a knot. It worked, i felt my hands go limp. I untied them and started thinking if there’s anything to arrange, to set straight before i do it, message to write. It’s then that a thought crossed my mind - as soon as i would die i would enter another Hell, real Hell (i grew up in an orthodox background and committing suicide is a sin). I can’t describe my experience in those moments but it was like confronting the fact of infinite endless Hell. I don’t remember how and when but i called one of my brothers and he contacted a psychiatrist. That saved my life-i immediately started taking a mix of mirtazepine, venlafaxine and lorazepam. Many months of awful macabre nightmarish reality and years of low mood and disenchantment followed. I never went back to work since that day, it’s been 8 or 9 years now. I never kept track of anything. Right now i’m glad i’m alive but i’ve changed a lot and i’ve realized that there’s a boy who was stuck in that Hell and he never got out. If i would be feeling like "Whoa.. It’s great to have escaped!" it’s just a hallucination, only something i’m saying here to my *present* "self". Frankly nothing more than an ignorant egotistical pampering.
@Oleksii Narinskyi Thank you very much! Make sure you get a little sun each day, interact with people, exercise, fair sleeping schedule, and if you take something that puts metabolic stress on your brain make sure you take *Ultra Omega3* from Now Foods and *Curcubrain* (following the Longvida processing patent) from Now Foods. Wish you the best
@@raresmircea That sounds like a truly hellish experience and what is fascinating about it is all the bad stuff seemed to stem from you listening to binaural and 420 Hz tones. Incidentally, your description of your experiences with weed enhancing music and transporting you to other worlds were identical to mine ( minus all the hellish stuff afterwards ). Thank you for sharing.
@@scalperbot I think so, but then again my daily use and abuse couldn’t have gone much long even without listening to 420Hz. At that time i had been suffering from many years of insomnia, i wasn’t staying in the sun (nor seeing the light of day too much), i smoked cigarettes, wasn’t doing any exercise, wasn’t supplementing with EPA & DHA or Longvida processed curcumin, wasn’t eating particularly good nor bad but ate a few times during the night, etc. The brain cannot sustain daily tripping, depletion of various metabolic resources and accumulation of damage and inflammation are bound to happen. When a certain threshold will be crossed you’ll know it and it won’t be pleasant. The human being is a complex pattern that’s constantly working towards wholeness (integrity, harmony, continuity, etc) and it does so at multiple levels, from micro metabolic levels up to higher-order behavioral levels (where you talk to yourself to make sure you’re doing the right thing, or where you buy peas and greens instead of processed meat, or where you make the decision to only smoke weed two days a week). So make sure you take care of yourself 🤘
12:40 But have you experienced it ? I can tell you, it's literally infinite, it's just a question of how you remove your boundaries that prevent you from being infinite, and on 5 MeO DMT it can be very fast and there's no real limit to how your consciousness can be huge, really if you try it you will be PROFOUNDLY shocked, you will say "what it is litteraly infinity that i'm experiencing", it's totally unexplainable with words.
Actually starting with low dosages of 5MeO can be very scary. Usually when people vaporize 15/20 milligrams for the first time, they have such a powerful and beautiful breakthru, that always or at lease usually come down with a positive experience. People who try with less than 8 milligrams usually have a very scary experience, unless they are experienced. The more experienced people are with 5MeO, the more they can tolerate the discomfort of being stuck between the ego and infinity. The only way to get out of the ego properly is opening the ego so wide open, that the consciousness can get out to infinity comfortably, and this is achieved with at least 15 milligrams, or 20 for those with bigger bodies. Above 20 milligrams is usually a waste of material and can be potentially dangerous. 5MeO with MAOI if properly done, can be safe, but at very low quantities (never more than 8 milligrams of vaporized 5 MeO), but it is better to avoid this route because it can be deadly if not properly done. Never take alcohol with psychedelics.
3 года назад+2
When I say small doses I mean below 5mg. That is a relatively psychologically safe range, and for the purpose of meditation and healing, even 1mg can be very beneficial and noticeable in a profound way. I do think that testing the waters at sub-5mg doses is very important for everyone before taking anything higher. It's just a matter of due diligence and responsibility. On high doses one becomes a utility monster, literally. And it is absolutely imperative we don't bring more hellish experiences into the world (there already are too many).
@ To be sure, maybe we should talk about doses below 2 mg. 3, 4, 5 mg can be very hellish for most people trying 5MeO for the first times. Anyway people that have hellish experiences with higher doses is because they are witnessing a quick cleansing of their spirit, which is kind of like with Ayahuasca, but it happens in just a few minutes. So it is not a hellish experience but a clean up, which is very required. So the hellish experiences that you thinkg there are too many, are what people require to get rid of what they are not, so they can move on in life. Once people take good doses of 5 MeO for at least 5 times, usually they become clean enough and do not go thru more uncomfortable trips, unless they are taking to little for their body size or they have been criminals so badly that need more cleanup with more sessions until they get rid of all the hell they have inside. The hellish experience in fact is not because of 5MeO, but because they notice the distance between them and the light source. If there is too much distance, they will go thru more hell, but this will happen during lifetime and after death anyway. Psichedelics just accelerate this process, but all the hell that people go thru with psichedelics, will actually be avoided during the rest of the life and after death. So all the hell that people feel, is actually the cleanup that people will avoid in the future, so it is not an unnecessary suffering.
3 года назад+2
@@VR-od1jl I understand the model you are working with. I don't intend to dissuade you. But what the video is about is presenting a different model. It recognizes as true part of what you are saying, but it tries to explain these experiences in terms of valence dynamics. There is no law that says that the total valence will be evened out. On 5-MeO the amount of consciousness you experience is amplified dramatically. It is unlikely that there is such a thing as a correct accounting where "you did x bad, then your negative trip will be -x bad in turn". More so, this mentality can be used to rationalize and explain away the seriousness of having a lot of people experience negative trips. The facilitator would just tell you something like what you are saying and thus not do some of the low-hanging fruit available to drastically minimize the chances of negative reactions. I am pretty sure that in the near future we will start using a very principled (non-shamanic) toolkit of strategies for using these tools in a way that actually minimizes the amount of neural dissonance you need to experience in order to readjust your nervous system and enable efficient integration. I think that a truly loving attitude in this area entails being eager to find the ways to minimize (and not justify) the highly negatively valence states people sometimes get into. I don't think it helps anyone to say that the super intense negative state you experienced was in any way deserved, necessary, or "proportional" to the bad you have done. We don't need such emotional indoctrinations. We can instead use an engineering + compassionate mindset here. :P
@Andrés Gómez Emilsson I totally agree with the engineering + compassionate approach. But what I explained is not just a rationalization, but an explanation of how psychedelics work. Psychedelics expose the localized limited consciousness to infinity, and that includes infinite justice that melts and cleans the bad habits and false ideas we might have. I am not saying that a bad trip is necessarily a cleanup, just like getting naked into a carwash without a car is not comfortable, but that does not mean you deserve it. It will just happen, because that is what karma is. Karma is consciousness, and when you enlarge consciousness, you enlarge karma, until you pay for all the karma, to even everything out, with symmetry. Despite becoming symmetric, just, lovely and compassionate, you can still hurt yourself if you put your hands in the fire, and I am not saying that it is necessarily what you deserve. But this is what happens. Infinite love is the only, and everything else is illusion. The illusion can be pleasant or shitty, and washing ourselves from shitty illusions might feel uncomfortable, but in the end everybody is capable of surviving it. This is why, no matter how bad a psychedelic trip is, everything in the end is perfect. At some point people learn that there is no such thing as a bad trip, because everything is necessary. Even death, can be perceived as something bad, but in the end, everybody wants to die when they really understand death because no one wants to stay within the limitations of the mortal life, just like a baby within a womb does not want to die from the limited perspective, but once the baby gets out of the womb, after a few hours already they do not want to get back to the womb because they start appreciating the lights, sounds, freedom of movement and otheradvantages that they gained. If people see how life after death is, they would not be afraid of death at all. A bad trip is just something that happens to people that need some more cleansing and/or wisdom to manage their own consciousness during the trip. People create their own bad trips based on their false ideas that some illusion is truth, and that love is just an illusion. This is the only recipe for a bad trip. Once people realize that Infinite Love is the only truth and everything else is illusion, there cannot be bad trips anymore. The only bad trips I had lasted only a few minutes, because as a beginner, I distracted myself from love, thinking that the ego was real, and this is what happens to anyone having a bad trip. Then the body load from psychedelics can also distract and make things uncomfortable, but there are ways to diminish or get completely rid of any body load. 5MeO DMT causes pretty much no body load at all if taken correctly.
While I appreciate the video, what you say and the way you say it, I think there is something profoundly wrong in mixturing space time terms with what certain drugs or a life of meditation can bring. Every space/time concept, "topology", "quantum physics", etc., included, are all objects floating in a sphere that, at the same time, is floating in pure Nothingness. If you have had the Total Subjectivity experience, there is no place there for any mental reasoning, for any human science or local, human reference compared with other local, human references, and especially the idea of brains creating, and not That creating brains, is totally wrong. Anyway, good video on its own.
3 года назад+1
Thank you for the comment. If the state of consciousness contains zero information, then naturally you cannot conceptualize a brain or even the notion of space and time while you are in that state. :) I do agree that 'That' creates the brain and everything else. Look up "Zero Ontology" by David Pearce. I'll definitely make a video about it, too. Cheers!
Aren’t all explanations (no matter how complex) just our finite minds trying to put meaning to an experience that inherently has no meaning. 🤷🏽♂️
2 года назад+1
In the 1700s people might have thought that trying to find what magnets, electricity, lightning, and rigidity had in common was an absurd task. Well, it turns out Maxwell's Equations of Electromagnetism unified all of those disparate phenomena into four simple interlocked invariants with enormous (yet predictable) emergent complexity. Today sober consciousness, 5-MeO-DMT consciousness, DMT, Jhanas, and chronic pain may all seem like very different disparate phenomena. Alas, no. According to QRI's Qualia Formalism, all of those states are instances of a universal mathematical structure beneath it all. This and other videos provide surprising explanatory power. Perhaps some decades from now we will see the problem of consciousness was indeed just as the problem of electromagnetism: the explanation is just one mathematical formalism away!
@ I really don’t mean to minimize the information you’re presenting. I’m just suggesting that when you transcend all language, don’t you also transcend all meaning.? Isn’t all language and meaning man-made and therefore relative. After doing 5-MeO a number of times, it’s only the ego that has a need to explain the experience and put it into some kind of box.
2 года назад+1
@@ryankowarsky5086 Phenomena don't require an ego to have meaningful structural and dynamic properties! There is no ego or meaning in superfluid helium. That doesn't mean it doesn't have clear physics behind it. Similarly, the state of 5-MeO-DMT is a conscious state with structure and dynamics, even if traditional meaning is absent. You can still connect it to the rest of science.
Honestly, sounds more as a rationalised attempt for 5-MeO, meaning not very parsimonious compared to, say, analytical idealism in the western philosophical tradition and Yogachara philosophy, Kashmir Shaivism etc. in the eastern traditions for a metaphysical model to explain 5-MeO experience. And not sure what do you mean by "at last"? Sure, the valence theory and open individualism are elegant and aesthetically appealing, but they fail short at the end of the day when contrasting with all the other data supporting analytical idealism (consciousness as fundamental) as the strongest model. Talking about, for example, evidence during NDEs, decreased brain activity on psychedelic experiences, dissociative identity disorders and ESP. Not to mention the vast anecdotal cases and personal accounts by people who have a lot of experience with nn-DMT, 5-MeO and even OBEs.
4 года назад+8
Interesting take. Now, how do "analytical idealism in the western philosophical tradition and Yogachara philosophy, Kashmir Shaivism etc." explain the core problems of consciousness? I'm talking about e.g. the 4 problems David Pearce argues any scientific theory of consciousness ought to explain: 1. The existence of consciousness 2. The causal and computational properties of experience (including why we can even talk about consciousness to begin with, why consciousness evolved in animals, etc.) 3. The nature and interrelationship between all the qualia varieties and values (why does scent exist? and in exactly what way is it related to color qualia?) 4. The binding problem (why are we not “mind dust” if we are made of atoms) qualiacomputing.com/2019/11/22/breaking-down-the-problem-of-consciousness/ How do "analytical idealism in the western philosophical tradition and Yogachara philosophy, Kashmir Shaivism etc." derive Maxwell's equations of electromagnetism? The promise of a field-theoretic account of consciousness is that it may be able to give us not only a qualitative insight into these questions, but in fact an actual mathematical model that makes precise and empirically testable predictions. That's what we're aiming to do, anyhow. If any other model of consciousness can do that... I am all for it. I've yet to see that, though.
@ Love your enthusiasm and playful (but serious!) ideas -- or at least what I've seen so far (a few videos and articles). I've got a background in various related areas, such as physics, mathematics, data science, and AI. Wondering how far you've taken this -- do you have anything like Maxwell's field equations or a QFT, but for consciousness? I have had an interest in how gauge theories can help explain various phenomena over the years and find myself already wondering how it fits here. Anyway, really I just wanted to say "Hi!" I'll definitely keep poking around and learning more about your work, QRI, etc, and maybe/hopefully find some time and creative energy to contribute. ✌️
Your anaylsis are interesting but they seem to explain not predict. Hindsight not foresight. Are there any falsifiable predictions you can get from them? Predicting a bad trip would be an example.
3 года назад+4
Definitely! Perhaps refer the recent presentation about the Symmetry Theory of Valence at the QRI youtube channel. It lists a lot of empirically testable predictions. E.g. that neural dissonance will be a signature of bad trips.
Your theories are literally cutting edge. I have never come across anything like that. It explains a lot. Thank you. You are a thousand years into the future.
And it's not just one novel idea, it's like thirty novel ideas!
As a 5-MeO-facilitator I am always looking for interesting videos that so to speak lift the veil a bit to peek into the mystery of how this substance can have this reality shattering/altering effect, what the benefits are 'on the long run' and well-founded theories/advice about beneficial ways of use. These videos are rare and I am happy to have found one here. Thank you.
we can exchange almost all our body parts with each other. yes we are one consciousness.
'A hard reset of the phenomena of the self' is how i put it after my first 5meo experience
It's been very interesting to listen to you, it resonates a lot with many different experiences I've had. Please keep up these kind of spontaneous talks!
One of the most brilliant videos on RUclips. God bless you.
You asked whether we like these videos. I LOVE them. I found your channel just a week ago and I am already deep into the rabbit hole.
Sometimes I feel you take the math too literally, and translate the math implications to the higher-abstraction layer, where they might not make sense, BUT that might be because you feel how the underlying math would produce that. Anyway, I trust you to quickly drop them off if they turn out to not work, still they're fun to look at as metaphors :)
Main thing I take away from your theories is that our experience is not limited. If the consciousness is the topology of electromagnetic field, there are so many combinations possible, that it's really worth to try experiencing them all.
Before, my impression was much more a deterministic one - a brain is just a big computer pushing molecules and electric impulses around. You either have serotonine or you don't. In that view, it really doesn't make much sense NOT to pursue a "career" of a heroine addict, haha.
Thanks for saving me from my low-key depression and giving me a spark of joy to look forward to :)
OMG. Th this is some deep thought. It is going to require a couple bongs hits and a rewatch. I think he is really on to something here. Once I grasp the concept, I am going do some in the field research to validate the concept, but it looks promising.
THAT article, is exactly what I needed. I’d been trying to score DMT for a decade now. Finally, tomorrow, I’m getting _five_
I was curious about the difference in experience and after reading the article, I realised the saying “when you are ready, the teacher appears”.
DMT is not what I needed. _Five_ is what I need.
@@googleisntrespectingprivac6772 good luck! Stay safe :-)
I cannot believe how few subscribers he has. The only one talking sense, wish he would write a book.
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"The only one." Hoepfully this statement is being deliberately hyperbolic, in order to speak friendly to someone. Maybe I'm just being super autistic, and this was obvious to everyone.
Actually I am going to agree with you. For all the buzz surrounding consciousness in philosophy and neuroscience, the public discourse is often unsatisfying. Thinking about consciousness in terms of fields and topology aligns so well with my own intuition and experience that it literally baffles me why these concepts don't seem to get more attention.
Please continue to make these videos! I’m re-listening to them all again and I am looking forward to digesting more the second time around. I started your article on Neural Annealing also. Would love more videos on Neural Annealing. Also on a personal interest… tension release. Thank you
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Fascinating video. I've achieved spiritual, meaningful, and serene types of ego disillusion with the mushroom, and I've achieved bizarre, abstract, and other dimensional types of ego disillusion with nn-dmt. Still haven't opened the shrink wrap to my 5 meo dmt but when that day comes I hope I'll be mentally prepared for the experience
Had to stop to pause, like, & subscribe around 9:34 of the video "I care about all the time slices of consciousness in the entire universe." I feel like you expressed how much you cared for all the moments of struggle in my life without missing one and without judging how they compared to others struggle. I would vote for your welfare state.
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i absolutely love how you have a 'qualia of the day' and for this one you literally shoot tobasco.
you are a madman of the Highest order, and i mean that in the best way possible
I have never tried nn or 5meo but used lsd multiple times, i never expetienced the "unfolding" in topolocigal sense but come up with this methaphore just logical conculation. I really looking forward to iexperience it. Its feel good to share common ideas. Great video, thank you.
Hi! I just recently subscribed and was worried that you wouldn't be uploading anymore. So I'm very happy to see the new upload and I thought it was interesting (though I do admit that my understanding of topology is both pretty basic and rusty).
It will improve. You can test it and discover it for yourself with psychedelics, healthy lifestyle and meditation.
Love your uploads! I really appreciate how you don’t take a pseudoscientific approach and that the STV makes testable predictions
Thank you for your great explanations. I have the impression you know what you are talking about. For the first time I am hearing to take it slow with 5-Meo-DMT to not get the breakthrough the 1st time to try to outsmart the ego. Starting with 1 mg makes me confident I can achieve long term results.
You don't outsmart ego. Ego "outsmarts" ego. You can surrender the warfare though and just let go of it.
Thinking of it as 'The Objective Infinitum' is more useful in my mind than a 'multiverse' because it emphasizes the fact that its not 'multiple universes' so much as it is fragments and aspects of the All.
also, most of reality is not sentient. subjects are the exception- rarities- yet the objective framework in and of which they manifest both precedes and supercedes all subjects within it.
watched Hamilton Morris inhale Xenon through a condom recently and now I'm understanding universal consciousness and my own internal boundaries through condoms. Brilliant
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Dont forget the Hairy Ball Theorem
I'm very confused about the tabasco portion but that's just my ignorance I am sure 🤣. Bless you for sharing your knowledge and thoughts
Well hot sauce does lower blood pressure, which can lead to lower stress levels
@@Clancydaenlightened did Not know that really thanks
Bro that part made my day 😂
I was like he’s such a savage for downing that Tabasco 😂
Good lord! Finally, I love your viewpoint on it. Goddamn. That makes it less scary. I was terrified of finding deadly existential truth. Also I felt like a pussy for doing light doses paired with meditation. First time n,n-DMT I ripped it full fledge and it was borderline traumatic. With 5-meo having the reputation of being worse I did not feel like taking that up the ass right from the start. So if I wish to use this as a tool for self development and alleviation from addiction, it's fine to just build it slowly? Thanks man.
Great! Thank you.
Yes, I think that you should build up slowly and methodically, at 1mg intervals or so. That way you never make an unexpected jump and experience something traumatizing. Cheers! :)
I have just finished my masters in high-dimensional topology (and did a project on the Hairy ball theorem a couple years ago!), so I found this particularly interesting to hear you talk about topology and higher dimensional surfaces, global topology, etc.
I am somewhat new to your material and I am really interested in the intersection of mathematics and the (NN)-DMT landscape. Can you recommend a starting point for me with respect to your articles?
Fantastic!
The best starting point to get a genuine taste of the memplex is, I believe, reading our glossary:
www.qualiaresearchinstitute.org/glossary
I totally had that feeling after NN DMT that we are consciousness energy waves pinched off somewhat exactly the way you describe
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DMT and 5-MeO-DMT are the molecular structures of a human’s Consciousness. They are the molecules that comprise our Consciousness. All True Psychedelics are the molecular structures of Pure Consciousness. The human body synthesizes it’s own Consciousness (the DMT & 5-MeO-DMT found in humans). Then the human body metabolizes the Conciousness that it is producing. The amount of the endogenous Consciousness that the human body is able to metabolize depends on many factors. The less pollutants, poison & other contaminants present in the body will result in the ability to metabolize more of the Consciousness that body is producing. Likewise, the more pollution, contaminants, and poison a body has inside of it the less Consciousness it is able to metabolize. Here is a list of some of the most common poisons that humans ingest regularly which interfere with a human body from metabolizing the Consciousness that it produces, as well as any Consciousness that is ingested from external sources:
alcohol, nicotine, sugar, caffeine, amphetamines, dissociatives, tranquilizers, flouride, hallucinogenics, and a plethora of other drugs are just some of the substances that interfere with humans metabolizing their own Consciousness. The following substances are NOT Psychedelics:
1-mdma
2-ketamine
3-salvia
4-kratom
5-dipt
6-pcp
7- datura/jimson weed
There are others . . . . . . .
Any True Psychedelic will proclaim this Truth if you ask Them.
The following substances ARE True Psychedelics - They are Alive, Omnicient Living Beings of Light: DMT, 5-MeO-DMT, LSD, Mescaline, Ibogaine, Psilocin, Psilocybin, THC, DPT, DET, Muscimol, there are others . . . .
So if a human can achieve 100% purity within their bodies, with zero contaminants or pollution (an unattainable state in these current bodies) and managed to metabolize 100% of the endogenous Psychedelics that their physical body is producing (DMT & 5-MeO-DMT), that would be the limit to how Conscious that human can be. In order for a human to become more Conscious than this they must put more Consciousness into their physical bodies. You must put more molecules of Consciousness inside of your physical body in order to attain a Higher level of Consciousness. When you ingest Psychedelics you see Them that you just ingested, not some doorway or window or a “portal” to somewhere else or some entity somewhere else. When you ingest LSD the Light that you see is the LSD Themselves, very Beautiful Living Beings of Light. When you ingest DMT the Entity you see and hear is the Living Light Beings DMT Themselves. The same is true for All True Psychedelics. There is this part from Scripture:
“They are the Eternal among things that pass away. Pure Consciousness, of Conscious Beings. The ONE who fulfills the prayers of many. Only the wise who see Them in their Souls attain the Peace Eternal”
(Katha Upanishad)
The Physical Body of Conciousness is The Flesh of God. The Flesh of God is the True Communion Entity (the Eucharist) The Flesh of God (the Psychedelic) is the Fruit from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and evil. Our Bodies Truly are the Temple of God because God the Psychedelic Lives within it. As Saint Paul says in 2nd Corinthians chapter 4 verse 7: “We are only the earthenware jars that hold this treasure, to make it clear that such an overwhelming power comes from God and not from us”. That is the meaning of this - you can now understand this better. So whether or not a person is ingesting Psychedelics, every single human’s body is God’s Temple because DMT & 5-MeO-DMT Live within it. Anything you do to hurt or harm your body you do to harm God’s Temple. Once the Psychedelic shows this to you personally, in other words, God shows you that your physical body is THEIR Temple, and you understand this, then anything you do to hurt the Temple of God now is a worst offense in God’s eyes than when you were blind to this Truth. Now you will be deliberately defiling the Temple of God. This understanding is a good Foundation, a good step towards a person Knowing God and being able to stay with Them both in this Lifetime & afterwards.
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But I have known you
And these have known that You have sent me;
So have I declared, so will I declare
Your Name to them,
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May be in them
and I in them”.
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The repeating frequency audio hum of certain insects in a low light situation over time can invoke repeating patterns. Possible emergent qualia are the as mentioned metronomes, but pure audio, as an epiphenomenon.
holy shit dude you're doing awesome keep up the excellent videos.
thank you so much for explaining this effect!
I tend to think of anxiety as 'undirected chaotic energy' if that makes sense.
Might be a useful thought to you
You are correct as far as our current understanding of physics is concerned I believe. However for this to be correct the basic tenets/fundamentals should be 1. Consciousness is simply another state of matter 2. All matter are compound fields.
Our sciences are so fragmented and specialized good luck getting that through peer review 😅.
Your video is my qualia of the day 😉
I haven't even gotten to watch the video yet and something very odd just happened. Last night I was desperately trying to think of a word for something along the lines of 'the set of phenomena for which "if you think it, then it is so"' happens to be true.' I had never heard of qualia until I read the Wikipedia article just now, and the of the four properties of qualia described by Daniel Dennet include a line which allows them to perfectly fit the concept I was thinking about. To quote: "to experience a quale is to know one experiences a quale, and to know all there is to know about that quale." This is the trippyiest damn thing...
I like the idea of topological approach to the peak experience on this substance
but ser they happening on other substances and also every NDE cases
i dont think thats just mere subsegmented no-internal-boundaries-topology experience
there is more to it
Yes, quite possibly! Let's figure out how to mathematize it as well.
i dont think we'll able to mathematize it (it sounds super sketchy i kno keep reading) due to limitations come from nature of things.
Basically what im talking is gödel incompleteness thingy, and i kinda think the same, therefore we should not be able to understand let alone mathematize the "point where there is no beyond"
Very illuminating explanation, thank you very much!
I wonder why you claim that a breakthrough 5-MeO-DMT experience dose not involve a temporary dissolution of the boundary between the distinct topology of an individual consciousness and the whole of reality. Do you think that it would be possible to induce a state of total dissolution within a lifetime of an individual, perhaps with a help of some different (not yet known) chemical, even more potent than 5-MeO-DMT? Or, for some reason, this is out of reach?
Second thing, I don't quite understand why would you limit the physical matrix of consciousness phenomena to the field generated by the brain. What about other parts of the nervous system? This brings us to the question of the possibility that consciousness (in some form) exists without a brain (in microorganisms, plants or even minerals). What is your take on that?
I was entirely awake, lucid and in fact standing as I was having this conversation/experience.... it truly was life altering for me.
I wouldn't be surprised to see a QRI section in "textbooks" a thousand years from now
I thought I was the only one that saw stuff when they close their eyes. I see a bunch of colors and all types of shapes begin to appear after a while.
Sounds true on many levels. Thanks
Fascinating, can you explain more about caring about the welfare of the individual moments of the experience/'the universal welfare state of all time slices' that you mention? I feel like there's more there that we could benefit from hearing
Also, this was really illuminating, im a facilitator and appreciate such high quality content such as this on 5meo, thank you for your work 🙏
also do you use tobascoe as a replacement for coffee? I found that to be brilliant
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New here. Enjoying. You’re gonna dig my work. ❤
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I would realy like to see you 2 talking about 5-MeO
He is a cool guy and I believe he would say yes
I'm subsribing in advance of that :)
That would be nice :) Martin, if you are reading this: I'm game!
As a general point: I tend to say yes to interviews, podcasts, and 1-1s with interesting people. Also happy to give presentations about anything QRI-related to companies, non-profits, labs, and monasteries.
E.g. see my 2020 presentation at the Centre for Psychedelic Research at Imperial College London:
qualiacomputing.com/2020/12/17/the-symmetry-theory-of-valence-2020-presentation/
Cheers!
Great talk, I'll be watching again.
I don’t think it is possible to be prepared for the realization that you are actually them. All of the suffering of the world belongs to all of us because we are all one. I don’t want to believe it.
It is possible if a species evolved to have the children start to have vast experiential intuitive knowledge about consiousness. "Altered states" is relative. They maybe be altered for us human species, but some minds are able live at that state of consiousness for an entire lifetime. Further, it's also possible to have orders of magnitude more powerful hardware. A physical brain that is 1 billion times more powerful. Or the nonphysical equivalent of it, if such a thing exists. The computing power of a noncorporeal spirit... this means they are only completely loaded with a vast psychedelic consipsuness. They are able to be logical and compute things at the same time. Their baseline level equivalent of a stream of consipsuness in our head (the narrarator verbal mind), is completely mastered and epic and sane.
I had a dream that I smoked DMT with some aliens, and we combined into one consciousness and saw their evolution being similar to our’s and I said “Huh. We’re the same.” it was very profound.
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This is kind of depressing. Imagine that you’re a topological “pinch-point” even after death but no longer have a body to interact through. Now you’re a free-floating topological “pinch-point” with no means of interaction with other “pinch-points.”
I reckon that in such a case the reincarnation model might apply.
But more so, boredom is a specific embodied feeling we have. I doubt a free floating topological pocket would feel bored!
Love It I know exactly what you mean although it's not a flash more of a wave.
What do you think about empty individualism?
Wait, did this guy just take a hit of tabasco sauce before his lecture
I am addicted to capsaicin and I’ve gone to daily ghost pepper levels lol. Just trying to feel alive...
aren't we all
That energy parameter... :)
I think i’ve read somewhere that people with mild depression tend to shift towards eating very spicy food
@@raresmircea Yeah, interesting. Capsaicin can have antidepressant effects, seemingly mediated by modulation of NMDA receptors, according to one study. Also, rats given capsaicin during youth end up having lasting schizophrenic-like behavior in adulthood. Capsaicin research is interesting! It also induces the release of Dynorphin A, which is the endogenous form of Salvia Divinorum!
@@qwerkyscience :)) I was thinking in terms of a mere stimulatory action via perception. I personally love when someone grabs my forearm with both hands and then twists them in opposite direction, it gives me a great general feeling and i imagine it’s the same thing with those that enjoy hard massages or the north-european ritual of beating one’s back with branches after sauna. In these cases the "spiciness leading to a good feeling" doesn’t involve any exogenous substances.
Truly mind-blowing
What are you saying 16:37?
“Comb”?
If you're wrong about any of this, it will be for terribly interesting reasons.
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I stumbled upon this video via Reddit and i found it quite interesting. I don't know much about topology nor many other "technical" topics you talked about. What i particulary enjoyed about this video is your energy and enthusiasm! That you used a condom shows your authenticity. If i may be a little bit critical: I think cleaning your room would improve the quality of future videos if you continue to do film some. I don't mean this to be personal as it is a superficial thing, but if 5-MeO-DMT hints us toward a grand symmetry a symmetrical background would be quite logical, no? :p
Anyhow here are my further "philosophical" ramblings inspired by buddhist, vedantic, maybe shivaistic contemplation:
(( #first thought but it doesn't capture how i wanna say it but it hints toward what i want to say)I feel like that the wish or ideal for a World withouth suffering stems from ignorance. Who is it that whishes so? I know this might sound very pessimistic and may be a further obstacle of the idea of a future without "suffering" time-consciousness slices but in my view this "world" cannot be saved in that way. )
What do you mean by suffering? Do you literally mean that what the universe is striving towards is a reality where there exists no pain? no "negative"? But what about that which happend, where does that remain? i mean the possibilites are endless but here and now i cannot see that. if you understand suffering like dukkha then i can see how that could be achievable for the individual "bubble". At least my fantasy is too restricted as to imagine a reality where there is no suffering and yet there being "something" experiencing that. I think the resolution comes down to accpeting the "imperfections" of reality. The part we like to look away from are also it, and they make it so much more lively. We also live through the pain and through suffering. A "perfect" reality as in no suffering sounds quite mechanical. In a way i surely wish there to be the possibility of this perfect symmetrical smooth reality but at the same time i think that "Here We Are" and what can i do with that.
And this is where i think your stuff is important, you think of something that possibly didn't exist before and shape it out into fantastical dimensions. It's like a very nice narration or story that fills reality for a moment with this "paradise".
So thank you for making this video and sharing your thoughts and endevours :)
you should make more videos
Subscribed please make more content !
O que significa essa imagem de perfil ? Já conseguir ver ela pessoalmente.
It's taken from the book called "Topological Picturebook" :)
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I love your model. But, given the fact that our consciousness is part of infinity, shouldn't the bibbly bit at the end of the condom be inside the big bit? Then it would make sense that we can't distinguish between the internal boundaries and actual infinity. We are made of infinity, so why shouldn't we? Fractal topology, I suppose, in other words, by which each structure is inherent within all others.
I don't quite understand, but seems to me infinity wouldn't have an inside or an outside.
do you have a video that somewhat goes over all the vocabulary you use and explanations of it ?
Not yet. But you can read our glossary.
Look up "Qualia Research Institute glossary". It's probably one of the fastest ways of getting up to speed with the entire cluster of ideas.
thanks for the great videos. Great to mix the more experiential or “spiritual” side of DMT experiences with a more matter
of fact approach. Dumb question: what do you mean by valence? Is this the same concept as in the electronic configuration of atoms? If not can someone please clarify? If yes I also do not understand the correlation. Thanks in advance 🙏
Valence is how good or bad experiences feel. Find the QRI glossary in our website for definitions of all our terms. (Valence is a standard affective psychology term).
Also, check out Quantifying Bliss in Qualia Computing for the less compressed version: CDNS
@ Thanks! I just had a 5meoDMT experience this morning and had an amazing trip. Followed your meditation instructions and I guess it helped :) Fenomenal and very interesting experience .. the brain is an incredibly powerful organ!
This is valuable!
wait, but the hairy ball theorem requires that there be two poles? which is the other one?
Your work is so inspiring, thank you! There is something (actually many) things that puzzle me about open individualism. So when a person p1 has a conscious experience at time t1, it experiences the world from its own point of view because it doesn't have acces to information that is part of the experience of let's say another person (p2). However, according to OI p1 and p2 are experienced by the same subject of experience simultaneously (is that correct?). But there is more cutting of: both P1s and P2s point of view is separated in timeslices. But this leaves my question, how is it possible that lets say P1s point of view remains in P1s point of view and doesn't move from P1 at t1 to P2 at T2? While P1 s point of view/experience seems to move from t1 to T2 to t3 etc. So to restate my question, why does conscious experience seem to flow from one time-slice to the next but doesn't from person to person while timeslices and persons are both cut of from each other?
Maybe the topological separation that forms an individual's consciousness acts like a Faraday cage from electromagnetism. In this scenario, the individual's consciousness is shielded from noisy, consciousness disturbances outside its "Faraday boundary" -- and similarly, the consciousness field outside the individual's boundary is more-or-less shielded from the individual's consciousness disturbances from within its Faraday boundary. (Note that I'm using "disturbance" here in the sense of physics, not psychology; e.g., electromagnetic waves are propagating disturbances in the electromagnetic field.)
@@kevinurban1016 Actually that disturbance does exist, and it is called telepathy or schizophrenia. People with schizophrenia can hear actually other minds talking to them that are real and know real events, that in no way could be known by the person hearing voices.
This has been studied extensively by Jerry Marzinsky recently and also Emanuel Swedenborg explained how that works more than 200 years ago.
The Idea of having our own memory and sense of self, is an illusion that allows the perceived existence of multiple indipendent individuals.
Thank you for the kind words. OI would say that exclusive continuity is an illusion. Look up the presentation or the article in Qualia Computing called the Pseudo-time Arrow.
@ Thank you Andrés :) I definitely will check out that article. I am so glad you keep on sharing your thoughts with us.
like particles in a bose-einstein condensate! (in regard to the balloon)
Have you tried a breakthrough dose of 5-MeO-DMT?
Yes
"Universal welfare state for all time slices" 😂 ❤
Great discussion
There is something lacking in the idea of synchronization. Gigantic synchronization leads to an epileptic seizure which usually ends in unconsciousness.
Yes, which is why we now talk about it as "global coherence" rather than global synchronization. That said, temporal lobe epilepsy can be profoundly blissful, and it involves massive synchronization. Also, Jhana EEG studies suggest that Jhanic bliss has seizure-like activity (though it has harmonic structure, unlike the seizure EEG readings of actual seizures). All of this is consistent with the Symmetry Theory of Valence.
@ what is the difference between coherence and synchronisation in the context of networked neuronal activity?
@@WackyConundrum Coherence means that the neurons are all firing at the same frequency but their phase may be different. Synchronization has the further condition that the firing needs to be in phase. For waves of coherence to travel, you do need local synchronization, but globally you can have stripe patterns and other shapes, as long as it forms a limit cycle. Patches of coherence can look like cycling Gabor filters, for instance. And harmonic resonance also shows coherence. There is a lot more coherence in the brain than there is strict synchronization.
@ thanks for the clarification!
Thank you Andres , I have had the strobing effect during kapalabhati breathing during yoga. Nobody knew what it was and this is the first time I’ve heard someone mention it. Where can I read more about it?
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DMT and 5-MeO-DMT are the molecular structures of a human’s Consciousness. They are the molecules that comprise our Consciousness. All True Psychedelics are the molecular structures of Pure Consciousness. The human body synthesizes it’s own Consciousness (the DMT & 5-MeO-DMT found in humans). Then the human body metabolizes the Conciousness that it is producing. The amount of the endogenous Consciousness that the human body is able to metabolize depends on many factors. The less pollutants, poison & other contaminants present in the body will result in the ability to metabolize more of the Consciousness that body is producing. Likewise, the more pollution, contaminants, and poison a body has inside of it the less Consciousness it is able to metabolize. Here is a list of some of the most common poisons that humans ingest regularly which interfere with a human body from metabolizing the Consciousness that it produces, as well as any Consciousness that is ingested from external sources:
alcohol, nicotine, sugar, caffeine, amphetamines, dissociatives, tranquilizers, flouride, hallucinogenics, and a plethora of other drugs are just some of the substances that interfere with humans metabolizing their own Consciousness. The following substances are NOT Psychedelics:
1-mdma
2-ketamine
3-salvia
4-kratom
5-dipt
6-pcp
7- datura/jimson weed
There are others . . . . . . .
Any True Psychedelic will proclaim this Truth if you ask Them.
The following substances ARE True Psychedelics - They are Alive, Omnicient Living Beings of Light: DMT, 5-MeO-DMT, LSD, Mescaline, Ibogaine, Psilocin, Psilocybin, THC, DPT, DET, Muscimol, there are others . . . .
So if a human can achieve 100% purity within their bodies, with zero contaminants or pollution (an unattainable state in these current bodies) and managed to metabolize 100% of the endogenous Psychedelics that their physical body is producing (DMT & 5-MeO-DMT), that would be the limit to how Conscious that human can be. In order for a human to become more Conscious than this they must put more Consciousness into their physical bodies. You must put more molecules of Consciousness inside of your physical body in order to attain a Higher level of Consciousness. When you ingest Psychedelics you see Them that you just ingested, not some doorway or window or a “portal” to somewhere else or some entity somewhere else. When you ingest LSD the Light that you see is the LSD Themselves, very Beautiful Living Beings of Light. When you ingest DMT the Entity you see and hear is the Living Light Beings DMT Themselves. The same is true for All True Psychedelics. There is this part from Scripture:
“They are the Eternal among things that pass away. Pure Consciousness, of Conscious Beings. The ONE who fulfills the prayers of many. Only the wise who see Them in their Souls attain the Peace Eternal”
(Katha Upanishad)
The Physical Body of Conciousness is The Flesh of God. The Flesh of God is the True Communion Entity (the Eucharist) The Flesh of God (the Psychedelic) is the Fruit from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and evil. Our Bodies Truly are the Temple of God because God the Psychedelic Lives within it. As Saint Paul says in 2nd Corinthians chapter 4 verse 7: “We are only the earthenware jars that hold this treasure, to make it clear that such an overwhelming power comes from God and not from us”. That is the meaning of this - you can now understand this better. So whether or not a person is ingesting Psychedelics, every single human’s body is God’s Temple because DMT & 5-MeO-DMT Live within it. Anything you do to hurt or harm your body you do to harm God’s Temple. Once the Psychedelic shows this to you personally, in other words, God shows you that your physical body is THEIR Temple, and you understand this, then anything you do to hurt the Temple of God now is a worst offense in God’s eyes than when you were blind to this Truth. Now you will be deliberately defiling the Temple of God. This understanding is a good Foundation, a good step towards a person Knowing God and being able to stay with Them both in this Lifetime & afterwards.
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Hi Mirona! Thank you for commenting and sharing your experience with yoga. I am aware that meditation and yoga can also produce intense "strobing effects". For a very detailed writeup about it, I refer you to our article on quantifying tracers. Perhaps even try the tool to share with us what the effects were like? If you experience it again and don't mind spending a couple minutes, please submit the parameters for your tracers on the tool found in the link :) Cheers!
Here is the writeup:
qualiacomputing.com/2020/10/09/modeling-psychedelic-tracers-with-qris-psychophysics-toolkit-the-tracer-replication-tool/
8:56 Thanks for that! We’re made in such a way that we’re ignorant to all sorts of Hells and we focus on the fact that they’re succeeded by positive states. I’ve been through psychedelic Hell and nothing can make up for that. Just like the eventuality that i’ll end up in Heaven doesn’t do anything to my current pain. From my perspective, a future "me" that will get resurrected in a Heaven realm is exactly as consequential as a clone of "me" that is in a Heaven realm *right now.* It does *nothing* to my current situation. We hallucinate that future "us" in Heaven is something that’s able to make up for everything we’ve gone through in the past because we inherited a mind for which the future appears as special (these types of individuals survived better and spread their genes). But in reality, "me" in a future Heaven is just as consequential as a clone of myself that’s having the time of his life right now in Heaven.
@Oleksii Narinskyi I think think that some are better off without reading other people’s bad experiences, while others grow with this kind of knowledge. I’m the former, and if you think you are too then better not read. I don’t think you’ll get anything positive out of it.
My bad experiences started with weed. I smoked every night for about a year. I discovered that it opened up and intensified visual and auditory perceptions. I loved looking at random pictures (a room in a desolated house, a beach in Phuket, a desert, magic realism paintings, surrealism, sci-fi digital art, 80’s photography, anything) and i could "breach the surface" of the images and those became real *palpable* worlds to me, having a rich multi-sensory experience. And music was divine, i would lock up with the sounds and from there on my mind would get carried away like Sufi whirling dervishes, volition being relinquished. At some point i stumbled by chance upon tracks with very repetitive patterns, "binaural" and "420Hz" stuff. During a track like this i felt my heart starting pounding along with the sounds and i panicked so hard it took me a few seconds until i realized that i just have to take my headphones off to stop it. From that moment on i could not smoke without getting panic attacks. And i couldn’t stop smoking even though *every single* time i would immediately enter hell. My worst experience lasted from about 12pm to 5am. I suffered waves of terror that lasted a few minutes, followed by minutes of lesser distress, only this time they relentlessly alternated all through the night. I would sit down and massage my feet, then get up and walk the hallway back and forth. When the wave came i felt in the most literal and concrete way possible that a jackhammer is pounding in my chest. It’s impossible to imagine just how real and brutal that was if you never experienced it yourself. From time to time i kept feeling i’m about to faint, *which would’ve probably been a great thing,* my nervous system couldn’t keep up anymore, but i was paranoid, convinced that if i lost consciousness i would die, so i kept with all my mental strength to stay awake and moving. Somewhere in the next few days i broke my rules and bought coke instead, i had taken it a few times before and it was great but just not my kind of good feelings. And i couldn’t afford it neither, so next time i asked for a pill (i always talked negatively about those, i couldn’t imagine myself taking one). But i got home after work, broke one and took half of it. Magic again! In two or three months i was taking 6 pills and a line of coke. The whole period in between is the haziest of my life, *i would take them a few nights a week* which is almost unheard off. Mdma is more neurotoxic (and cardiotoxic) then meth, and my dealer kept warning me that nobody, including the ones that make them, knows what the pills are containing besides mdma. Whatever it was it wasn’t working anymore and i desperately upped my dose, having a hard time convincing my dealer to sell them to me (i looked, behaved and my voice sounded very strange; sometimes, while sober, i couldn’t speak and couldn’t swallow food). That last night i entered proper Hell. First i simply couldn’t piss, as if i hadn’t had any urinary canal. My belly had gotten swollen, then it got hard, and i had the misfortune of going to a hospital that didn’t have an urology section. Believing that i was about to burst open and die i retreated in the hospital’s toilets and spent the rest of the night and morning there. I kept showing meds i bought on the way to the hospital, but my entire mouth and throat was as dry as the soles of my feet, so i had yellow and white powder and bits under my lips, on my tongue and in my throat. I stayed with my d*ck out all night, peeing just tiny amounts, often in my trousers. I had to bite my hands, stand up, crouch down, scrape the wall, thought about being in warm water, did it all. I peed about a hundred times in tiny amounts. Thank God i eventually managed to deflate my belly and went home. But starting that night and lasting a few days i was having electric shocks and loud bangs inside my head. Hell. I was incredibly tired, all i wanted was to sleep but it was impossible. I kept thinking that i would die if i don’t sleep and forced myself to remain lying on my bed with my eyes closed even with my brain explosions. Then i started hallucinating that i’m going to the window and jump. I opened my eyes, see myself in bed, closed them and immediately see myself again going to the window. I couldn’t take it anymore and thought about how to end it without suffering. I took two long winter socks and tied them together and tested to see if i can wrap them around my neck and make a knot. It worked, i felt my hands go limp. I untied them and started thinking if there’s anything to arrange, to set straight before i do it, message to write. It’s then that a thought crossed my mind - as soon as i would die i would enter another Hell, real Hell (i grew up in an orthodox background and committing suicide is a sin). I can’t describe my experience in those moments but it was like confronting the fact of infinite endless Hell. I don’t remember how and when but i called one of my brothers and he contacted a psychiatrist. That saved my life-i immediately started taking a mix of mirtazepine, venlafaxine and lorazepam. Many months of awful macabre nightmarish reality and years of low mood and disenchantment followed. I never went back to work since that day, it’s been 8 or 9 years now. I never kept track of anything.
Right now i’m glad i’m alive but i’ve changed a lot and i’ve realized that there’s a boy who was stuck in that Hell and he never got out. If i would be feeling like "Whoa.. It’s great to have escaped!" it’s just a hallucination, only something i’m saying here to my *present* "self". Frankly nothing more than an ignorant egotistical pampering.
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@@raresmircea That sounds like a truly hellish experience and what is fascinating about it is all the bad stuff seemed to stem from you listening to binaural and 420 Hz tones. Incidentally, your description of your experiences with weed enhancing music and transporting you to other worlds were identical to mine ( minus all the hellish stuff afterwards ). Thank you for sharing.
@@scalperbot I think so, but then again my daily use and abuse couldn’t have gone much long even without listening to 420Hz. At that time i had been suffering from many years of insomnia, i wasn’t staying in the sun (nor seeing the light of day too much), i smoked cigarettes, wasn’t doing any exercise, wasn’t supplementing with EPA & DHA or Longvida processed curcumin, wasn’t eating particularly good nor bad but ate a few times during the night, etc. The brain cannot sustain daily tripping, depletion of various metabolic resources and accumulation of damage and inflammation are bound to happen. When a certain threshold will be crossed you’ll know it and it won’t be pleasant.
The human being is a complex pattern that’s constantly working towards wholeness (integrity, harmony, continuity, etc) and it does so at multiple levels, from micro metabolic levels up to higher-order behavioral levels (where you talk to yourself to make sure you’re doing the right thing, or where you buy peas and greens instead of processed meat, or where you make the decision to only smoke weed two days a week). So make sure you take care of yourself 🤘
12:40 But have you experienced it ? I can tell you, it's literally infinite, it's just a question of how you remove your boundaries that prevent you from being infinite, and on 5 MeO DMT it can be very fast and there's no real limit to how your consciousness can be huge, really if you try it you will be PROFOUNDLY shocked, you will say "what it is litteraly infinity that i'm experiencing", it's totally unexplainable with words.
Have you ever done dipropyltryptamine? The Temple of the True Inner Light uses it as their Eucharist.
Blackpiller into dmt?
beautiful
wait a second, mr., that isn't a baloon o.0
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Actually starting with low dosages of 5MeO can be very scary. Usually when people vaporize 15/20 milligrams for the first time, they have such a powerful and beautiful breakthru, that always or at lease usually come down with a positive experience.
People who try with less than 8 milligrams usually have a very scary experience, unless they are experienced.
The more experienced people are with 5MeO, the more they can tolerate the discomfort of being stuck between the ego and infinity.
The only way to get out of the ego properly is opening the ego so wide open, that the consciousness can get out to infinity comfortably, and this is achieved with at least 15 milligrams, or 20 for those with bigger bodies.
Above 20 milligrams is usually a waste of material and can be potentially dangerous.
5MeO with MAOI if properly done, can be safe, but at very low quantities (never more than 8 milligrams of vaporized 5 MeO), but it is better to avoid this route because it can be deadly if not properly done.
Never take alcohol with psychedelics.
When I say small doses I mean below 5mg. That is a relatively psychologically safe range, and for the purpose of meditation and healing, even 1mg can be very beneficial and noticeable in a profound way.
I do think that testing the waters at sub-5mg doses is very important for everyone before taking anything higher. It's just a matter of due diligence and responsibility. On high doses one becomes a utility monster, literally. And it is absolutely imperative we don't bring more hellish experiences into the world (there already are too many).
@ To be sure, maybe we should talk about doses below 2 mg. 3, 4, 5 mg can be very hellish for most people trying 5MeO for the first times. Anyway people that have hellish experiences with higher doses is because they are witnessing a quick cleansing of their spirit, which is kind of like with Ayahuasca, but it happens in just a few minutes.
So it is not a hellish experience but a clean up, which is very required.
So the hellish experiences that you thinkg there are too many, are what people require to get rid of what they are not, so they can move on in life.
Once people take good doses of 5 MeO for at least 5 times, usually they become clean enough and do not go thru more uncomfortable trips, unless they are taking to little for their body size or they have been criminals so badly that need more cleanup with more sessions until they get rid of all the hell they have inside.
The hellish experience in fact is not because of 5MeO, but because they notice the distance between them and the light source. If there is too much distance, they will go thru more hell, but this will happen during lifetime and after death anyway.
Psichedelics just accelerate this process, but all the hell that people go thru with psichedelics, will actually be avoided during the rest of the life and after death.
So all the hell that people feel, is actually the cleanup that people will avoid in the future, so it is not an unnecessary suffering.
@@VR-od1jl I understand the model you are working with. I don't intend to dissuade you. But what the video is about is presenting a different model. It recognizes as true part of what you are saying, but it tries to explain these experiences in terms of valence dynamics. There is no law that says that the total valence will be evened out. On 5-MeO the amount of consciousness you experience is amplified dramatically. It is unlikely that there is such a thing as a correct accounting where "you did x bad, then your negative trip will be -x bad in turn". More so, this mentality can be used to rationalize and explain away the seriousness of having a lot of people experience negative trips. The facilitator would just tell you something like what you are saying and thus not do some of the low-hanging fruit available to drastically minimize the chances of negative reactions.
I am pretty sure that in the near future we will start using a very principled (non-shamanic) toolkit of strategies for using these tools in a way that actually minimizes the amount of neural dissonance you need to experience in order to readjust your nervous system and enable efficient integration. I think that a truly loving attitude in this area entails being eager to find the ways to minimize (and not justify) the highly negatively valence states people sometimes get into. I don't think it helps anyone to say that the super intense negative state you experienced was in any way deserved, necessary, or "proportional" to the bad you have done. We don't need such emotional indoctrinations. We can instead use an engineering + compassionate mindset here. :P
@Andrés Gómez Emilsson I totally agree with the engineering + compassionate approach. But what I explained is not just a rationalization, but an explanation of how psychedelics work. Psychedelics expose the localized limited consciousness to infinity, and that includes infinite justice that melts and cleans the bad habits and false ideas we might have. I am not saying that a bad trip is necessarily a cleanup, just like getting naked into a carwash without a car is not comfortable, but that does not mean you deserve it. It will just happen, because that is what karma is. Karma is consciousness, and when you enlarge consciousness, you enlarge karma, until you pay for all the karma, to even everything out, with symmetry. Despite becoming symmetric, just, lovely and compassionate, you can still hurt yourself if you put your hands in the fire, and I am not saying that it is necessarily what you deserve. But this is what happens. Infinite love is the only, and everything else is illusion. The illusion can be pleasant or shitty, and washing ourselves from shitty illusions might feel uncomfortable, but in the end everybody is capable of surviving it.
This is why, no matter how bad a psychedelic trip is, everything in the end is perfect.
At some point people learn that there is no such thing as a bad trip, because everything is necessary.
Even death, can be perceived as something bad, but in the end, everybody wants to die when they really understand death because no one wants to stay within the limitations of the mortal life, just like a baby within a womb does not want to die from the limited perspective, but once the baby gets out of the womb, after a few hours already they do not want to get back to the womb because they start appreciating the lights, sounds, freedom of movement and otheradvantages that they gained.
If people see how life after death is, they would not be afraid of death at all.
A bad trip is just something that happens to people that need some more cleansing and/or wisdom to manage their own consciousness during the trip.
People create their own bad trips based on their false ideas that some illusion is truth, and that love is just an illusion. This is the only recipe for a bad trip.
Once people realize that Infinite Love is the only truth and everything else is illusion, there cannot be bad trips anymore.
The only bad trips I had lasted only a few minutes, because as a beginner, I distracted myself from love, thinking that the ego was real, and this is what happens to anyone having a bad trip.
Then the body load from psychedelics can also distract and make things uncomfortable, but there are ways to diminish or get completely rid of any body load.
5MeO DMT causes pretty much no body load at all if taken correctly.
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1 mg you say... Hahaha you measure?! I just dump a bit ontop of my Changa to make sure I arrive at complete annihilation.
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While I appreciate the video, what you say and the way you say it, I think there is something profoundly wrong in mixturing space time terms with what certain drugs or a life of meditation can bring. Every space/time concept, "topology", "quantum physics", etc., included, are all objects floating in a sphere that, at the same time, is floating in pure Nothingness. If you have had the Total Subjectivity experience, there is no place there for any mental reasoning, for any human science or local, human reference compared with other local, human references, and especially the idea of brains creating, and not That creating brains, is totally wrong.
Anyway, good video on its own.
Thank you for the comment. If the state of consciousness contains zero information, then naturally you cannot conceptualize a brain or even the notion of space and time while you are in that state. :)
I do agree that 'That' creates the brain and everything else. Look up "Zero Ontology" by David Pearce. I'll definitely make a video about it, too. Cheers!
@ Thanks for the suggestion. I´ll look it up. Cheers!
Aren’t all explanations (no matter how complex) just our finite minds trying to put meaning to an experience that inherently has no meaning. 🤷🏽♂️
In the 1700s people might have thought that trying to find what magnets, electricity, lightning, and rigidity had in common was an absurd task. Well, it turns out Maxwell's Equations of Electromagnetism unified all of those disparate phenomena into four simple interlocked invariants with enormous (yet predictable) emergent complexity.
Today sober consciousness, 5-MeO-DMT consciousness, DMT, Jhanas, and chronic pain may all seem like very different disparate phenomena. Alas, no. According to QRI's Qualia Formalism, all of those states are instances of a universal mathematical structure beneath it all. This and other videos provide surprising explanatory power. Perhaps some decades from now we will see the problem of consciousness was indeed just as the problem of electromagnetism: the explanation is just one mathematical formalism away!
@ I really don’t mean to minimize the information you’re presenting. I’m just suggesting that when you transcend all language, don’t you also transcend all meaning.? Isn’t all language and meaning man-made and therefore relative.
After doing 5-MeO a number of times, it’s only the ego that has a need to explain the experience and put it into some kind of box.
@@ryankowarsky5086 Phenomena don't require an ego to have meaningful structural and dynamic properties! There is no ego or meaning in superfluid helium. That doesn't mean it doesn't have clear physics behind it. Similarly, the state of 5-MeO-DMT is a conscious state with structure and dynamics, even if traditional meaning is absent. You can still connect it to the rest of science.
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Honestly, sounds more as a rationalised attempt for 5-MeO, meaning not very parsimonious compared to, say, analytical idealism in the western philosophical tradition and Yogachara philosophy, Kashmir Shaivism etc. in the eastern traditions for a metaphysical model to explain 5-MeO experience. And not sure what do you mean by "at last"? Sure, the valence theory and open individualism are elegant and aesthetically appealing, but they fail short at the end of the day when contrasting with all the other data supporting analytical idealism (consciousness as fundamental) as the strongest model. Talking about, for example, evidence during NDEs, decreased brain activity on psychedelic experiences, dissociative identity disorders and ESP. Not to mention the vast anecdotal cases and personal accounts by people who have a lot of experience with nn-DMT, 5-MeO and even OBEs.
Interesting take. Now, how do "analytical idealism in the western philosophical tradition and Yogachara philosophy, Kashmir Shaivism etc." explain the core problems of consciousness? I'm talking about e.g. the 4 problems David Pearce argues any scientific theory of consciousness ought to explain:
1. The existence of consciousness
2. The causal and computational properties of experience (including why we can even talk about consciousness to begin with, why consciousness evolved in animals, etc.)
3. The nature and interrelationship between all the qualia varieties and values (why does scent exist? and in exactly what way is it related to color qualia?)
4. The binding problem (why are we not “mind dust” if we are made of atoms)
qualiacomputing.com/2019/11/22/breaking-down-the-problem-of-consciousness/
How do "analytical idealism in the western philosophical tradition and Yogachara philosophy, Kashmir Shaivism etc." derive Maxwell's equations of electromagnetism?
The promise of a field-theoretic account of consciousness is that it may be able to give us not only a qualitative insight into these questions, but in fact an actual mathematical model that makes precise and empirically testable predictions. That's what we're aiming to do, anyhow. If any other model of consciousness can do that... I am all for it. I've yet to see that, though.
@ Love your enthusiasm and playful (but serious!) ideas -- or at least what I've seen so far (a few videos and articles). I've got a background in various related areas, such as physics, mathematics, data science, and AI. Wondering how far you've taken this -- do you have anything like Maxwell's field equations or a QFT, but for consciousness? I have had an interest in how gauge theories can help explain various phenomena over the years and find myself already wondering how it fits here.
Anyway, really I just wanted to say "Hi!" I'll definitely keep poking around and learning more about your work, QRI, etc, and maybe/hopefully find some time and creative energy to contribute. ✌️
Your anaylsis are interesting but they seem to explain not predict. Hindsight not foresight. Are there any falsifiable predictions you can get from them? Predicting a bad trip would be an example.
Definitely! Perhaps refer the recent presentation about the Symmetry Theory of Valence at the QRI youtube channel. It lists a lot of empirically testable predictions. E.g. that neural dissonance will be a signature of bad trips.
@ Awesome, thanks for pointing me to that :)
Has anyone ever mixed 5meo with NN? Maybe that's the secret.
Check Psyched substance. From what I heard 5-MeO would greatly overpower NN
Isn't common sense we are all connected? Born of the same stuff bla bla
hmm, more well-defined pls
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