Good video. I appreciate your point of view on the subject because you’re coming at it from the point of view of a professional in the industry with years of experience and builds under your belt…but what about the brand new CAD user? I’m new and looking to get into this world and design parts and creations with a 3d printer…i have found fusion 360 to be extremely foreign and counterintuitive. Do you think onshape would be better suited for someone that knows nothing and is starting from scratch?
Not necessarily. To the eyes of a beginner, Fusion and Onshape are pretty similar. If I were you, I would try to understand sketches first and then eventually look at features and which do what. I have some intro videos on this for Fusion.
Personal things. What you got used to and what you trained will be always the best. Fusion 360 (my tool) is free for hobby and it is parametric and complete (meaning you can do everything with it). Solid is insanely pricey, so it is out of contention for 99% of honest hobbyists. Onshape is a great web app, free for hobby, but still much inferior to Fusion, so why would you need to use it rather than their endorcement?
You can literally turn off everything you don't like about onshape with one keystroke or mouse click. Sketches don't show by default unles you make them visible. You can hide them. Hiding the planes is as easy as one keyboard. Not saying your're wrong, but one of your main dislikes is a non-issue.
All I know is the assembly view is a mess. I have had issues like this in Solidworks, but the way solidworks displays sketches is much more minimalistic.
So... you made everything visible... and then complain about everything being visible? You then go on to say its going to have these all on by default, but... it doesn't. It auto hides sketches as soon as they've been used to make a solid. Fusion has many issues to legitimate issues to complain about so if you're going to claim to be doing a comparison to judge which is best, at least compare to reality, not made up grievances.
ok, I am going to defend Fusion here because you are making some serious mistakes in your assessment when you were talking about turning off the timeline. First, before you go and start making negative statment about a software tool I am going to ask you if you have had professional training on the tool. The key reason for this is that software tools are designed to work a particular way with best practices. I can tell you as an Autodesk user, trainer, and technical demo specialist, I never said negative thing about Solidworks because I have never had professional training with Solidworks. Now I will get to your comment about the timeline. The reason you would shut off the timeline is if you wanted to work in a direct model mode. This means that you are creating a "dumb solid" where if you want to make changes to the model, you will directly manipulate the faces of the model. Why would you want to do this? Well, I can tell you that the down side of a parametric solid model with a tree of features is if you have an extremely complex model with a hugh amount of feature and try to go back and edit an early feature in the tree you can potentially crash the model. I don't care if you use Fusion, Solidworks, Inventor, Catia, Pro E, or any other traditional paramteric solid model tool you will have the same problem. Honestly, if you had taken the time to do a little research on Fusion, you would know that it started as a direct model system with no feature tree or parametric capability. Don't quote me on this but I think it was that way for the first 3 or 4 years of Fusion's existance. For all of you out there, please understand this simple idea. Software is a tool. It does not replace your brain. It is written by programmers who are imperfect and it is written to work with specific workflows. Oh, and software is not a religion. The questions you should ask yourself are but not limited too "What am I desiging", "Who do I need to share toe design with", What is the price of the tool", "Is there traininig available for the tool", "Will it allow me to do what I need to do". I like Fusion but I think the biggest problem is that people do not get training on it and think they can teach themselves how to use it. While most CAD packages out there are "easy to use" I have never known any software to be as "intuitive" to learn as the marketing people claim. Getting training on the proper way to use the software will make you incredible efficient with it and will save you a ton of frustration. I know this from experince as I tried to teach myself Fusion and then took an essentials class was was amazed and the "stupid" (in my oppinion) places that many of the common tools I used in Inventor were in Fusion. If I ever do a review on Solidworks, it will be after I have taken a class on it to find out how to use it properly and then I can speak from a point of knowledge. I hope the author of this video does not take offense to my comments and rethinks his stance on Fusion. Oh, I applogize for not watching the whole video. I just had to comment after the author start making errors with his assessment of the Fusion Timeline and it's ability to be turned off.
Well, I think not working with a timeline is kinda pointless, unless you're designing something super simple (like a paper clip). If making edits to sketches and features are crashing your model, you should fix it. Just because it crashes doesn't mean it's the end. You find out what the rebuild errors are and fix it.
Good video. I appreciate your point of view on the subject because you’re coming at it from the point of view of a professional in the industry with years of experience and builds under your belt…but what about the brand new CAD user? I’m new and looking to get into this world and design parts and creations with a 3d printer…i have found fusion 360 to be extremely foreign and counterintuitive. Do you think onshape would be better suited for someone that knows nothing and is starting from scratch?
Not necessarily. To the eyes of a beginner, Fusion and Onshape are pretty similar. If I were you, I would try to understand sketches first and then eventually look at features and which do what. I have some intro videos on this for Fusion.
never understood fusion. Now i do. It is a fusion mess of a timeline.
SolidWorks-Onshape-SolidEdge-FreeCAD seem to be interesting sectors.
Exactly! Yes, if you can get access to Solidworks, it's the GOAT. Onshape might be my all time favorite. Many benefits to a fully online thing.
Personal things. What you got used to and what you trained will be always the best. Fusion 360 (my tool) is free for hobby and it is parametric and complete (meaning you can do everything with it). Solid is insanely pricey, so it is out of contention for 99% of honest hobbyists. Onshape is a great web app, free for hobby, but still much inferior to Fusion, so why would you need to use it rather than their endorcement?
I wouldn't call it inferior to Fusion. Why do you say that? Fusion has contact sets, which is a big deal, but still.
You said SolidWorks is the best but does not show why and note use it.
The price of OnShape you said is expensive but how much is SolidWorks?
Solidworks is the one everyone is used to and Fusion/ Onshape are the new kids on the block.
You can literally turn off everything you don't like about onshape with one keystroke or mouse click. Sketches don't show by default unles you make them visible. You can hide them. Hiding the planes is as easy as one keyboard. Not saying your're wrong, but one of your main dislikes is a non-issue.
All I know is the assembly view is a mess. I have had issues like this in Solidworks, but the way solidworks displays sketches is much more minimalistic.
So... you made everything visible... and then complain about everything being visible? You then go on to say its going to have these all on by default, but... it doesn't. It auto hides sketches as soon as they've been used to make a solid.
Fusion has many issues to legitimate issues to complain about so if you're going to claim to be doing a comparison to judge which is best, at least compare to reality, not made up grievances.
And what happens when you are done with the sketch? Sketches all over the place!
ok, I am going to defend Fusion here because you are making some serious mistakes in your assessment when you were talking about turning off the timeline.
First, before you go and start making negative statment about a software tool I am going to ask you if you have had professional training on the tool.
The key reason for this is that software tools are designed to work a particular way with best practices.
I can tell you as an Autodesk user, trainer, and technical demo specialist, I never said negative thing about Solidworks because I have never had professional training with Solidworks.
Now I will get to your comment about the timeline. The reason you would shut off the timeline is if you wanted to work in a direct model mode. This means that you are creating a "dumb solid" where if you want to make changes to the model, you will directly manipulate the faces of the model.
Why would you want to do this?
Well, I can tell you that the down side of a parametric solid model with a tree of features is if you have an extremely complex model with a hugh amount of feature and try to go back and edit an early feature in the tree you can potentially crash the model.
I don't care if you use Fusion, Solidworks, Inventor, Catia, Pro E, or any other traditional paramteric solid model tool you will have the same problem.
Honestly, if you had taken the time to do a little research on Fusion, you would know that it started as a direct model system with no feature tree or parametric capability. Don't quote me on this but I think it was that way for the first 3 or 4 years of Fusion's existance.
For all of you out there, please understand this simple idea.
Software is a tool.
It does not replace your brain.
It is written by programmers who are imperfect and it is written to work with specific workflows.
Oh, and software is not a religion.
The questions you should ask yourself are but not limited too "What am I desiging", "Who do I need to share toe design with", What is the price of the tool", "Is there traininig available for the tool", "Will it allow me to do what I need to do".
I like Fusion but I think the biggest problem is that people do not get training on it and think they can teach themselves how to use it. While most CAD packages out there are "easy to use" I have never known any software to be as "intuitive" to learn as the marketing people claim.
Getting training on the proper way to use the software will make you incredible efficient with it and will save you a ton of frustration. I know this from experince as I tried to teach myself Fusion and then took an essentials class was was amazed and the "stupid" (in my oppinion) places that many of the common tools I used in Inventor were in Fusion.
If I ever do a review on Solidworks, it will be after I have taken a class on it to find out how to use it properly and then I can speak from a point of knowledge.
I hope the author of this video does not take offense to my comments and rethinks his stance on Fusion.
Oh, I applogize for not watching the whole video. I just had to comment after the author start making errors with his assessment of the Fusion Timeline and it's ability to be turned off.
Well, I think not working with a timeline is kinda pointless, unless you're designing something super simple (like a paper clip).
If making edits to sketches and features are crashing your model, you should fix it. Just because it crashes doesn't mean it's the end. You find out what the rebuild errors are and fix it.