Rueben mastered a track I did about 5 years ago, I LOVED what he did and not only that he reached out to me when he was gonna do it and let me attend. A+ all around
It's amazing how different the perspective is for mastering between a "swiss army knife" engineer and a mastering engineer. Thank you ever so much for sharing all this material with us!
Wow thanks. I am 47 years of age and I have long since thought I would be too old to learn the art of mastering, but I was surprised to actually notice the difference between the tiniest adjustments you made. Not when you were riding the EQ, but when you explained why you did something and A/B’d the different versions. Thanks for the in-depth explanation, with this course I believe I will get the insights and the training necessary to get my own music where I want it to be, connectivity-wise. Thank you again!!! =)
I love how intuitive the movements on the 'instrument' are! It reminds me of a violin or piano player. I loved seeing the left and right hand do their thing almost on their own. I have often approached my FOH work as another member of the band and the desk is my instrument. I love watching this, and seeing an artist share! Now I need to re-watch with my Schiit DAC and RNHP w/ the Senns. . . :)
@@Producelikeapro At the end of the day there are many of us that will never become MEs with respect to the craft/expertise/equipment. My question after watching this video is how affordable are you for indies?
@@MattZildjian Aha! I see/hear! He's boosting behind and then cutting the high end so there's a bigger combined difference. Yes, he's definitely got great ears!
Amazing video, with so much knowledge to take in, good job I bought the course. Thanks very much for this very informed and educational video. You folks all rock!!!! Cheers
This was certainly a helpful demonstration to understand the idea behind the Lurssen Signal Chain and I appreciate that. I'll EQ more into a chain from now on (when I have to master). I'm not sure wether it's envy, disbelief or simply curiosity, but there is a part of me that wants to put you to the (blind)test with an A/B -comparison wether you can actually hear a 0,07 dB boost. Most of the time I'm mixing I'm thinking in 0,5 dB steps. I know I have far from perfect ears, but 0,07 dB is wild to me. I'm not even sure I'd be consistent on a whole bypass of the fabfilter-EQ. I THINK I'm hearing the difference, but am I reallly?
@@Producelikeapro of course. If you make a step forward and I make a step backwards we're 2 steps apart, because we moved in the opposite direction. Still those are very, very, very minor steps, aren't they? Have you ever adjusted a 0,1 dB boost to a 0,07 dB boost, Warren? I occasionally do the 0,1 dB changes but I try not to, because I think at that point I'm mostly fooling myself. I have heard differences while the EQ was bypassed once too often, I guess..
@@akagerhard obviously I can’t speak to how you hear things. For Reuben the boost and cut made enough of a difference to him, I did hear a change also, however if you thought it needed to be a bigger change to you then that’s understandable. He’s doing what he thinks is necessary, sometimes a little sometimes a lot. Isn’t that the purpose of mastering?
great Video tutorial and insight to Pro Mastering process 👌 one thing i'm missing here, its shows the texture and musical decisions for the specific music , but i didn't see the Technical or standards for the final level decisions. and how to achieve a industry standard music release loudness without getting the music squashed and distorted, i know its a broad topic and every platform and music genre has its own rules/standards, but it's one of the most important aspects and hard to achieve goals in mastering. clean loud master ! probably this is not what the video was about, but missing this important aspect of mastering ,and i wonder how the pro Mastering guys approach and handle this
Yep, you cant fix a bad mix in the master, you have to make do what you get, the best way you can. Another good mastering video with free plugins and from start to finish by Venus Theory for those bedroom musicians.
I wish I could adjust all of the parameters for each of the processors. I do understand why that wouldnt be possible, if for example this plugin is based on convolution technology- then perhaps an entire signal chain avoids creating redundant signal flow. Still, would be nice to select modules- and affect their parameters without having to blindly flip through presets
Hi Warren, I'm enjoying learning about 'behind the scenes at the mastering lab'. I'm in the middle of making my second album. I'm thinking of taking the upcoming mastering class but I have two questions for you: 1) How much audio production experience do I need to have in order to comfortably absorb the lessons 2) I see that this is geared towards Pro Tools but I have the latest version of Logic... would Logic be compatible with the course?
Wow dude!! Great tutorial!! I am about to attempt to master a song at home that I just finished mixing. Watching this really put a lot into perspective for me. Firstly it made me realize how totally unprepared I am for mastering. But because of that realization, I think it will take some pressure off. possibly keep me from dragging my feet so I can wrap it up faster and get on with my next project. I plan on using the one of the Brainworx mastering desk plugins, moist likely mastering desk pro or true peak. My question is.. Of all the mastering approaches and techniques you explained so well in this video, how much or how little of that might carry over to using a mastering desk plugin? For example, would you do the same cut/boost at 31hz/45hz if you were mastering ITB with plugins? Or are a lot of those little moves you mention strictly tailored to the exact gear you are working with. I imagine you need to be "on top of" much more detail with an analog setup like you have in this video, Whereas a plugin, aside from not being real analog gear, will shape the audio in a pre determined way leaving the mastering engineer with less control and fewer tools. Would you suggest to a noob just learning how to master to stick with a single master desk plugin or might it be better reach for other tools (plugins) as well to compliment the mastering desk plugin. I realize it will depend on the source material and many other factors. And me trying to come anywhere near accomplishing what you do in this video with a plugin is a joke. I guess a better way to ask that question is,, Are any of the mastering desk plugins good enough to do the entire job of mastering for a beginner like me? Or should a beginner look at a mastering desk plugin as just 1 tool of many that will help me learn the skill of mastering? I might be over thinking it all. When they say do not mix and master your own songs it really is no jokje. It might not be possible for me to do both without a lobotomy in between. lol I appreciate you making this video. Its really refreshing to find a tutorial like this where they arent just using some techno or dance music throughout but a real musical performance played on real instruments by actual musicians with nuances and groove. I mean no disrespect to electronic music, its just not my thing, I'm not a dancer and when learning my craft the last thing i need is a techno song playing on repeat. Especially from a mixing standpoint or imagining the standpoint of a mastering engineer I struggle to relate to a lot of electronic music and sometimes wonder if a song made up of pre recorded samples really needs to be mixed as thoroughly after tracking. i digress... thanks for making this vid! i look forward to many more Cheers
This guy is ninja! Couple questions: are you monitoring from the speakers behind the PT screens on your left (what are they)? Or are there speakers in front of you (what are they)? Thanks so much !,
If I am not mistaken, Reuben is monitoring this episode through the ATC monitors in front of the console, and the ones you see behind the ProTools screen are monitors they have setup for surround/5.1/Atmos/etc mastering. Cheers!
Its great to have the opportunity to hear how someone else does things. In this case I feel the presenter should have practiced the presentation prior to shooting. The multiple repeats and bumbling make this very simple subject sound complex.
This guy is awesome, no doubt but my ears bled the entire video from his lavalier mic. I am also not understanding why he went from getting his results on his analog gear and then suddenly went in the box ?
So resistence will decrease amplitudes in a signal. It's one way to attenuate a signal. "Tooby Q" is "Tube EQ" which means the EQ he uses has vacuum tubes he can saturate.
So he's basically saying that today's mastering engineers are here to fix the bad mixing choices of "mixing engineers". Don't you think something went wrong ?
Wow this track is really bad.. what is this singer doing? Really really weird style, unnatural sounding. Not my thing. Good lesson in being objective though.
What are some of your favourite tools for mastering at home?
I like using bandlab, audiolab, my synth and my guitar yeah
fab filter limiter
I am a plugin guy so I use Ultramarine, Crimson, Coral or Cobalt from AA, IK Multimedia tapes, and L2 from Waves.
@@german-hesles Acustica yeesssss
Newfangled Audio Elevate makes it on 95% of my masters in some capacity.
Genius mastering engineer - an absolute pleasure to have this insight into his process. Beautiful track too
Thanks ever so much!
Love the mind of a mastering engineer. Different breed!
Thanks ever so much!
Can't believe we can watch this for free 😍 thank you so much ❤
Aw shucks! Thanks ever so much
Rueben mastered a track I did about 5 years ago, I LOVED what he did and not only that he reached out to me when he was gonna do it and let me attend. A+ all around
Thanks for sharing Alex! I really appreciate it!
Reuben sir my Favorite mastering engineer in the world...❤
That’s marvellous to hear!
It's amazing how different the perspective is for mastering between a "swiss army knife" engineer and a mastering engineer. Thank you ever so much for sharing all this material with us!
Thanks ever so much Jesus
Wooow, he's so cool !
Yes, Reuben certainly is!
This was special. Thanks.
Thanks ever so much!
Love these guys!
Yay! Me too! Thanks ever so much!
Wow thanks. I am 47 years of age and I have long since thought I would be too old to learn the art of mastering, but I was surprised to actually notice the difference between the tiniest adjustments you made. Not when you were riding the EQ, but when you explained why you did something and A/B’d the different versions. Thanks for the in-depth explanation, with this course I believe I will get the insights and the training necessary to get my own music where I want it to be, connectivity-wise. Thank you again!!! =)
Thanks ever so much for sharing! I really appreciate it!
I love how intuitive the movements on the 'instrument' are! It reminds me of a violin or piano player. I loved seeing the left and right hand do their thing almost on their own. I have often approached my FOH work as another member of the band and the desk is my instrument. I love watching this, and seeing an artist share! Now I need to re-watch with my Schiit DAC and RNHP w/ the Senns. . . :)
"making a print" - like FOH! - it's amazing. . . . so close to live. "just breathing on. . . "
@@bcampagnolo6759 marvellous! Thanks ever so much for the great comment
I love the mastering videos!
Glad you like them!
@@Producelikeapro At the end of the day there are many of us that will never become MEs with respect to the craft/expertise/equipment. My question after watching this video is how affordable are you for indies?
Fantastic video!
Yay! Thanks ever so much!
what a great video. the song sample is gigantic good sounding
Marvellous!
Thanks ever so much
I'm amazed he can hear 0.07db of difference in that EQ
When it’s your only job and you’re focussed on it you can hear tiny amounts. Although I don’t think it’s 0.07db ha
@@Producelikeapro at 1:02:10
@@MattZildjian Aha! I see/hear! He's boosting behind and then cutting the high end so there's a bigger combined difference. Yes, he's definitely got great ears!
James Bond would be able to notice that
Hypothetically, if it wasn’t there he would convoluted trail through the forest of possibilities then maybe you would hear it too.
Amazing 💥
Thanks ever so much
Absolutely fascinating. Very well explained from start to finish and great track! Thank you for uploading!! 👍👍
Thanks ever so much!
so... sublime
Marvellous
Awesome! Ive been really into this plugin lately so cool you did a vid on it!
Glad you like it!
This is a treat!!! Thank you for sharing this! Its awesome!!!
Thanks ever so much Uriel!
Amazing video, with so much knowledge to take in, good job I bought the course. Thanks very much for this very informed and educational video. You folks all rock!!!! Cheers
Hi Joey! Glad it was helpful! YOU Rock!
Great video! Thanks Gentlemen
Thanks ever so much Tim!
Excellent video and thank you, thank you for using an actual acoustic track!!
You’re very welcome!
thanks for this Warren
You’re very welcome!
Listening on my phone, thanks!
😊
Thanks ever so much!
That was great, thanks!
Thanks ever so much Kurt!
Love their plugin! Will be most interested in this. :)
You and me both!
This was certainly a helpful demonstration to understand the idea behind the Lurssen Signal Chain and I appreciate that. I'll EQ more into a chain from now on (when I have to master). I'm not sure wether it's envy, disbelief or simply curiosity, but there is a part of me that wants to put you to the (blind)test with an A/B -comparison wether you can actually hear a 0,07 dB boost. Most of the time I'm mixing I'm thinking in 0,5 dB steps. I know I have far from perfect ears, but 0,07 dB is wild to me. I'm not even sure I'd be consistent on a whole bypass of the fabfilter-EQ. I THINK I'm hearing the difference, but am I reallly?
The boost and cut relationship exaggerates the move, so a cut preceded by a boost is more apparent
@@Producelikeapro of course. If you make a step forward and I make a step backwards we're 2 steps apart, because we moved in the opposite direction. Still those are very, very, very minor steps, aren't they? Have you ever adjusted a 0,1 dB boost to a 0,07 dB boost, Warren? I occasionally do the 0,1 dB changes but I try not to, because I think at that point I'm mostly fooling myself. I have heard differences while the EQ was bypassed once too often, I guess..
The better the monitoring, the more detail you can hear, up to a limit
@@bontempo1271 indeed! That’s a very valuable point
@@akagerhard obviously I can’t speak to how you hear things. For Reuben the boost and cut made enough of a difference to him, I did hear a change also, however if you thought it needed to be a bigger change to you then that’s understandable. He’s doing what he thinks is necessary, sometimes a little sometimes a lot. Isn’t that the purpose of mastering?
great Video tutorial and insight to Pro Mastering process 👌
one thing i'm missing here, its shows the texture and musical decisions for the specific music , but i didn't see the Technical or standards for the final level decisions. and how to achieve a industry standard music release loudness without getting the music squashed and distorted, i know its a broad topic and every platform and music genre has its own rules/standards, but it's one of the most important aspects and hard to achieve goals in mastering. clean loud master !
probably this is not what the video was about, but missing this important aspect of mastering ,and i wonder how the pro Mastering guys approach and handle this
lets get it lets go
I really enjoyed the video! Thanks for that Warren,btw, IK Lurssen needs an update right now.!!!
Thanks Pablo!
Super video..just wanted to ask you how are the JBL 308 P which I am seeing in your room for mixing and mastering, thanks in advance
that was really interesting! Thanks!
You’re very welcome!
Great video Gents!
Thanks ever so much!
Great video, very useful information
Thanks ever so much!
Yep, you cant fix a bad mix in the master, you have to make do what you get, the best way you can.
Another good mastering video with free plugins and from start to finish by Venus Theory for those bedroom musicians.
Marvellous! Yes, best to get the mix right in every situation!
I wish I could adjust all of the parameters for each of the processors.
I do understand why that wouldnt be possible, if for example this plugin is based on convolution technology- then perhaps an entire signal chain avoids creating redundant signal flow. Still, would be nice to select modules- and affect their parameters without having to blindly flip through presets
Absolutely. There’s lots of lessons using many other plug ins
Anyone else find that song to be a lot more mesmerizing than it should be?
Haha that’s good to hear!
Anyone knows the name?
and get them likes up fellas
I could listen to buddy talk for days born trainer of the audio arts great episode quite possibly the best one I’ve seen yet. I’ve seen 1or2 😂
Hi Warren, I'm enjoying learning about 'behind the scenes at the mastering lab'. I'm in the middle of making my second album.
I'm thinking of taking the upcoming mastering class but I have two questions for you:
1) How much audio production experience do I need to have in order to comfortably absorb the lessons
2) I see that this is geared towards Pro Tools but I have the latest version of Logic... would Logic be compatible with the course?
Great questions! Firstly any DAW will work, the plug ins will work with any major DAW. As for level, frankly all you need is the willingness to learn.
Wow dude!! Great tutorial!! I am about to attempt to master a song at home that I just finished mixing. Watching this really put a lot into perspective for me. Firstly it made me realize how totally unprepared I am for mastering. But because of that realization, I think it will take some pressure off. possibly keep me from dragging my feet so I can wrap it up faster and get on with my next project. I plan on using the one of the Brainworx mastering desk plugins, moist likely mastering desk pro or true peak. My question is.. Of all the mastering approaches and techniques you explained so well in this video, how much or how little of that might carry over to using a mastering desk plugin? For example, would you do the same cut/boost at 31hz/45hz if you were mastering ITB with plugins? Or are a lot of those little moves you mention strictly tailored to the exact gear you are working with.
I imagine you need to be "on top of" much more detail with an analog setup like you have in this video, Whereas a plugin, aside from not being real analog gear, will shape the audio in a pre determined way leaving the mastering engineer with less control and fewer tools.
Would you suggest to a noob just learning how to master to stick with a single master desk plugin or might it be better reach for other tools (plugins) as well to compliment the mastering desk plugin.
I realize it will depend on the source material and many other factors. And me trying to come anywhere near accomplishing what you do in this video with a plugin is a joke. I guess a better way to ask that question is,, Are any of the mastering desk plugins good enough to do the entire job of mastering for a beginner like me? Or should a beginner look at a mastering desk plugin as just 1 tool of many that will help me learn the skill of mastering? I might be over thinking it all. When they say do not mix and master your own songs it really is no jokje. It might not be possible for me to do both without a lobotomy in between. lol
I appreciate you making this video. Its really refreshing to find a tutorial like this where they arent just using some techno or dance music throughout but a real musical performance played on real instruments by actual musicians with nuances and groove. I mean no disrespect to electronic music, its just not my thing, I'm not a dancer and when learning my craft the last thing i need is a techno song playing on repeat. Especially from a mixing standpoint or imagining the standpoint of a mastering engineer I struggle to relate to a lot of electronic music and sometimes wonder if a song made up of pre recorded samples really needs to be mixed as thoroughly after tracking. i digress... thanks for making this vid! i look forward to many more
Cheers
why from 48khz to 44khz at the end ? can not follow this. thanks for this detailed video !
All CD etc are at 44.1k. For film and TV they do 48k
Just Pure Voodoos😜
This guy is ninja! Couple questions: are you monitoring from the speakers behind the PT screens on your left (what are they)? Or are there speakers in front of you (what are they)? Thanks so much !,
If I am not mistaken, Reuben is monitoring this episode through the ATC monitors in front of the console, and the ones you see behind the ProTools screen are monitors they have setup for surround/5.1/Atmos/etc mastering. Cheers!
Sorry if I missed this part. But in the digital (pro tools) segment, what is the first stereo track with PCM in the label?
That EAR eq, my goodness
Yea, marvellous
Am i the first? 😀
You are! happy Friday!
Its great to have the opportunity to hear how someone else does things. In this case I feel the presenter should have practiced the presentation prior to shooting. The multiple repeats and bumbling make this very simple subject sound complex.
Why did not display the Q3 on 3db?
At 12db it did not display correctly
What's the song?
Song\Artist? (seems similar to Trevor Hall)
Mikey Pauker “Way-Oh” off of his album “Ascension”
Yes, I've produced Trevor Hall, Mikey definitely has some similarities!
Yes Bryan! Thanks
@@BryanPapic Got it, Thanks!
@@Producelikeapro Really love Trevor's music and the audio production is superb!
Unfortunately, their plug-in is the most resource hungry I own. Wish they could fix it.
No entendí nada 🤣👍🇻🇪💯💯💯💯💯
Buen video
Funny how he touches the knobs on the Tube EQ but not moving them at all…
This guy is awesome, no doubt but my ears bled the entire video from his lavalier mic. I am also not understanding why he went from getting his results on his analog gear and then suddenly went in the box ?
This is a joke right???60Hz -0.10dB. 80Hz 0.16dB. 1250Hz 0.36dB. 5947.8Hz 0.10dB...how many BS the world of mastering can provide??
Tooby Q? Does he mean Suzy Q?
Resistance? Does he mean attenuation?
So resistence will decrease amplitudes in a signal. It's one way to attenuate a signal.
"Tooby Q" is "Tube EQ" which means the EQ he uses has vacuum tubes he can saturate.
Marvellous!
So he's basically saying that today's mastering engineers are here to fix the bad mixing choices of "mixing engineers". Don't you think something went wrong ?
Creepy dude.
Wow this track is really bad.. what is this singer doing? Really really weird style, unnatural sounding. Not my thing. Good lesson in being objective though.
Thanks Frank!
Always trying to sell your own product what did the world use before your plugin lmafo
Ugh
So you have to master through an expensive analog desk? Stop wasting my time.
He explain like a woman does.
Terrible song. Awful vocals. Good quality though.
that vocal is terrible, forced. should of chosen something less annoying