CRPGs To Try After Baldur's Gate 3
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- Опубликовано: 28 май 2024
- Baldur's Gate 3 is one of the best games ever made but unfortunately for many it will be the first CRPG they have ever played. CRPGs are some of thte best games ever made, and the genre is ripe for exploration, so in this video I introduce a variety of quality CRPGs broken down in order from easiest to pick up and play to most difficult.
Let me know if you have great experiences with these games and also if there are any quality CRPGs I missed go ahead and tell me in the comments! I should have another video up in a few weeks. I'm putting the finishing touches on an animation and then I have a 10 or 15 minute video coming after that.
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Games mentioned and topics covered
CRPGs Baldur's Gate 3
Dragon Age Origins
Divinity Original Sin 1 & 2
Mass Effect Trilogy
Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic
Tyranny
Pathfinder: Kingmaker
Pillars of Eternity
Wasteland 3
Baldur's Gate 1
Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic 2
Disco Elysium
Baldur’s Gate 2
Planescape Torment 
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Man I'm so glad you mentioned Tyranny...that is the most underrated CRPG...I absolutely love it. Playing an evil member of a world conqueror's hierarchy is just so different from the traditional story line...And they actually made being the good guy fun...I always enjoy playing the evil or anti-hero role as opposed to the knight in shining armor, because it just seems more interesting. But in Tyranny, they flip the script and playing the rebel or "good" guy just feels so satisfying. Great video man...keep up the good work.
Agreeing with Tyranny being underrated. It's not the longest or most complex but it really delivers an experience no other games do. I hate how the few games that let you be evil don't really lean into that and still give you choices to be morally good whereas in Tyranny you really can't completely change all the circumstances. I've seen some great videos on how even if you rebel against Kyros in the end he/she will still win.
you have forgotten Icewind dale an evolution of Baldur's Gate and its approchable for all the players or even Neverwinter Nights, another masterpiece or maybe for some very enduring people the Eyes of the Beholder saga
So I have never played either and they've been on my backlog forever BUT my best friend who has played both says they are amazing. Hoping to play through one or both in the next few years!
I would love a larian version of Icewind Dale. While I love bg1 and bg2, the turn based combat of bg3 is far superior and less headache inducing (usually)
played all these games and Dragon Age inquisition is still may top 3
So glad you mentioned wasteland 3, I really love that game
Yeah it's funny Wasteland 1 and 2 were rather subpar to me. They're weren't terrible but they couldn't stand shoulder to shoulder with some of the others on this list. However Wasteland 3 really raised the bar and I'm hoping they will keep going.
great compilation of great games! i enjoyed the vid
Bold of you to assume i will be done with BG3 anytime soon, my friend
Planescape torment is one of the most bizarre, morally ambiguous games I have ever played. We neeeeeeeed a remake, not numera
Numenera was such a digital book. Never got around to finish it, as I had gotten DOS2. I prefer more dialogue checks and meaningful content than tons of random characters giving you their life stories- ahhh *traumatic Naruto filler flashbacks*
My favorites from this list are Dragon Age, Mass Effect and KOTOR. Yeah, what can I say, I used to be in love with BioWare. I thought they were the best at this style of game because they were the easiest to get into and had more polish and better presentation, which is why they managed to break into the mainstream unlike their competition at the time. Maybe they are not better than some of these other games, but I don't have time to invest into new big and complex games anymore, I prefer sticking to what I'm familiar with.
Planescape Torment is my favorite CRPG of all time! So many cool characters!
Anyone here played Arcanum: of Steamworks and Magick Obscura?
Loved the worls in that one, though the mechanics were a bit clunky with the real time/turn based split.
I thought more games to try after BG3 was more BG3?
Exactly lol
I'm going with pathfinder wrath of the righteous
That's a solid game as well, but for some reason I got burned out on it after a good 40 or 50 hours. At some point I may return to it but I think the problem was with me, not the game. Overall it was a solid title.
@@pancakesean6888 love your GRRM vid btw. i got back to it to motivate myself to write sometimes.
@@benhramiak8781 Glad it's a motivator! I hold myself to 1000 words a day 6 days a week. Some days you really don't want to do it but if you push yourself the results will be good
@@pancakesean6888 I don't do that much, but I've got back into writing more and I'm working on a project after I've finished writing a short novel. problem is starting a few different projects and being like 'i dunno which to stick to'[
i just made a 'do later' folder in my writing folder. small but should help a bit
Dragon Age Origins is the closeset thing to BG3, it doesn't have the same interactive type of gameplay, but in terms of role-playing and story, for me personally, it easily tops BG3, just because the Origin system in that game is just so much better, basically all the Origins are like Durge, your character is completely customizable, but he still has a unique backstory based on his race and class which makes him not just a blank slate nobody, but a part of a group, you have friends, family and enemies, you know people in the world, you are a part of it and it's awesome.
The first time I went to the camp in BG3 I was laughing so hard because it's literally Dragon Age 1's camp all over again
@@pancakesean6888 yeah I also loved how it also changes when you travel to different places and you can actually rent a room in a tavern, that's a nice touch. They should've done something similar in Dragon Age.
Dragon Age Origins is my favorite game of all time. No game will ever top it for me, and I have played through the game 6 times and no sign of it getting dull to me.
I highly recommend the mod Slinks S3 Ravage for anyone that wants combat and items to be more interesting on subsequent playthoughs. It's an amazing mod that creates random custom enemies on the fly and adds completely new, randomized loot for all enemies in the game.
You can get absolutely crazy items, and you have no idea what you might get. It makes looting so much more exciting than vanilla. Add some mods that increase the difficulty and combat becomes a blast to play through again, imo at least.
i'm going through divinity 2 atm. using an op method but that's so I can get through it quicker compared to my last attempts. story is still good.
L Take on the DA Inquisition
Major miss.
Made me abandon the video.
Good video dude
Thanks Bryan, loved you in Breaking Bad and Malcolm In The Middle
@ 25 seconds in, -- bro, me too man, me too
Good video, you sold me on Kingmaker.
After Kingmaker give Wrath of the Righteous a try. Its also a Pathfinder game but instead of setting up a kingdom in a no mans land you are leading a crusade against the demons of the abyss. The main draw is deciding how you ascend beyond mortality to gain the power to fight the demons. Do you become an angel? Do you become a devil? Do you become the cold embodiment of law? Or do you reject ascension and decide to push your mortal body to its limit becoming a living legend? I would honestly listen to the main menu song of Wrath of the Righteous at the very least as it very much encapsulates the theme of the story.
@@shinon748Sounds cool, will try.
Do you love games, but hate gaming? This video is for you!
No pathfinder wrath of the righteous? I think the sequel is better than kingmaker
The Shadowrun trilogy?
Never played it but I have heard really good things! I'll add it to my backlog
@@pancakesean6888 all three games are currently on Gamepass if that helps.
I'm gonna be brutally honest, what you said about the Dragon Age sequels is a load of bullshit, especially considering the fact that DA: Inquisition won game of the year.
Divinity Original Sin 2 list done 😂
The inquisition hate hurts my soul but I get it lol, but in hindsight the game doesn't compare to origins 😂
OK, Listen, help a bugger out.
CRPG, TTRPG, ARPG, JRPG.... I'm getting confused!!! Also, I have no idea what the last one is. Jolly? Janky? Nope.... no idea!
Yeah so I don't think there are any hard boundaries on what constitutes different RPG types (with the last being Japanese Role Playing Game). I think a lot of times they blend into one another
CRPG- Computer Role Playing Game (Baldurs Gate, Pillars of Eternity etc)
TTRPG- Table Top Role Playing Game. (Dungeons and Dragons, Pathfinder, etc.)
ARPG -Action RPG (Final Fantasy 15, Kingdom Hearts, etc)
JRPG- Japanese RPG ( though japan makes RPGs of all type, this moniker USUALLY refers to turn based games with linear stories, so Persona 5, Final Fantasy 7, Pokemon, etc)
Like with all categories, there is no real boundary between any of these, aside from Tabletop i suppose. It’s mostly vibes
Sad part is I already played 80% of them, and the rest I don t like, not because they are bad or anything like that, just not my taste
This is a weird list I thought we’d get some crpgs
The gameplay for Dragon Age Inquisition is terrible, but the companions and dialogue writing are markedly improved from Dragon Age Origins. I tried to play DAO for the first time after BG3 and holy shit does it feel dated 😂 I know it’s supposed to have excellent role playing elements though
Did you seriously claim the writing and dialogue is better in DA:I compared to DA:O? How can anyone think this way is beyond me
Like all nerd topics, older is better. Newer CRPG's like BG3 are pure shit but the classics never ruin the formula.
Was interested in your video, then literally clicked off immediately when you got to the part about Dragon Age Inquisition.
Your opinion became instantly untrustworthy.
ech.. western games..
@@arbitraryify this is the first i've ever heard the term crpg, and nothing about it sounds like it means 'specifically not japanese'
You’re so cool
@@KairuHakubi You're right, nothing in the term crpg prevents a Japanese game from being one. However, if there -is- a Japanese CRPG, I've never come across one. Japanese developers, in my experience, do not make games in the crpg -style-.
Technically the 'c' stands for computer, but like many genre names its kind of loose and arbitrary and used to describe a certain 'feel'. I'd say there are two main criteria for a crpg, and you only have to hit one of them. As you can see in this video, MOST of the entries are either isometric, top-down, point and click experiences that lean heavily towards mouse and keyboard, with some exceptions in the full 3D Bioware titles. However, those ones all hit the second criteria, which is extensive dialogue options and the ability to make story decisions and choices in how your character speaks. As an off-shoot of that, letting you customise your protagonist in terms of looks/voice/class/build is also pretty standard, except in some edge cases like Planescape.
That's why Disco Elysium is here despite having no combat system; because it hits these other criteria that give it the crpg 'feel.'
Meanwhile 'JRPGs' have an entirely different feel despite being in the same overarching rpg genre. Old or new, they tend to fit better on consoles with controllers. The stories are generally baked-in, either fully linear or with very limited choices. The protagonists tend to be set characters; you can MAYBE name them but customisation is very rare.
As to 'Japanese' versus 'Western', that distinction is secondary to how the game feels. If a western country made a game that looked and felt like a JRPG, I'd call it a JRPG-style game.
If Japan made a game that felt like one of these, I'd happily call it a CRPG and say that it belonged on a list like this.
@@Gavaroc interesting. yeah i have limited experience so it's hard to fully grok what the genre represents.. but in general yeah Japan doesn't seem to care about PC gaming anymore.
@@arbitraryify It's interesting that you cite Fallout 3 on your list of what doesn't count. I fully agree, its just interesting when we consider that New Vegas absolutely -does- count despite the exact same engine, visuals and mechanical framework.
All it took was some design philosophy changes to right the ship, so to speak.