Christina Hoff Sommers | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)
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"The Factual Feminist" host Christina Hoff Sommers joins Bill Maher to discuss the state of modern feminism.
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She makes a lot of sense. I can see why she pisses people off.
Sensibility and reason are a threat to ideologues. This is no surprise.
I do not mean this with any sarcasm at all. I really want to know. Why does she piss people off?
@Ray Patson Why would they hate her? She speaks about equality.
'In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'
George Orwell
@@ericjf5343 "Why does she piss people off?"
Imagine someone like Ken Ham calling himself a "Factual Evolutionist". Her grift is similar. She is a "factual" feminist because she disagrees with feminism on everything. And she works for a right wing propaganda think tank that actively campaigns against feminism.
"She speaks about equality."
Don't be swayed by empty virtue signaling.
Supporting women doesn't mean you support feminism. You can support women but not modern rabbid and radical feminism.
You mean fascism
it's not feminism it's misandry
According to her own words you can support feminism without hating men. The 2 aren't even related unless you're what she calls third wave feminism.
Yeah feminism does not hold a monopoly on womens rights, feminism is a political movement. You can support equality without belong to a certain political movement like feminism.
Hear, Hear!
As a man she is definitely the kind of feminist I fully support.
Of course she is
Yeah because she tells you weak men want you want to hear. Too bad she threw Anita Sarkeesian under the bus and sides with the man babies that sent her death threats
As a woman she is the kind of feminist I fully support- She isn't one!
Because she supports men's interests, not women's.
I turned in my feminist card over 25 years ago. I'm in the ranks of Susan Sarandon. An egalitarian.
God I love that woman. Any time I hear she's going to be on Rogan or something I perk up.
She has her own podcast, Femsplainers.
This is going to piss my girlfriend off so bad.
I tried to make her watch this the other day, and I said “hey this is a video of this feminist woman” and she basically cut me off to tell me how I wanted to berate the stupid feminist.
Fuck my ass.
I tried to work her into the true meaning of the video without insulting her as she was unknowingly and intentionally insulting me.
I thought I fixed this issue long ago but apparently she is still upset that I’d like her to change her ways of calling me a feminist for thinking equality under the law is normal.
Again, FUCK MY ASS!!!!
I’m going to, past midnight when she gets home after a long shift, ask her to watch this shit.
I, of course, worked far more than her today for salary at a job in which I’m highly invested and working hours that negate good pay while she rakes in tip share at a hipster bar.
I’m grinding for the future while she “figures herself out.”
@@SiegePerilousEsauMaltomite Maybe you should dump her. I mean that. If she has this hostility toward men, it isn't going to work. Whatever you do, use a condom every time!
mysticaltyger49 It’s not hostility towards men, it’s just internalised victimhood, our of which I can coach/train her.
Covid-19 has her out of a job and managing the house, it’s great.
Things are good, I’m broken too so I can’t ask for fucking sleeping beauty.
She’s good, she’s an awesome soul with her flaws.
Accepting me is all I ask, I’m a a stranger creature.
That doesn’t mean I accept being walked upon, far from it, I simply realise I can’t ask for perfection while offering pewter.
@@SiegePerilousEsauMaltomite As long as your differences are reconcilable I can see your point. I have friends who has a significant other that has gone full "woke", yet still seems to think they can fix it. I can't even be around them anymore, soy wife and I just don't see them. That is an ideology that is all encompassing and turns everyone of it's acolytes into a disgusting racist. It sounds like your girl is just in a rut right now. Of course I am responding months later, so who knows lol. Hope it worked out.
Bill Maher is 2 years late on inviting Sommers.
~5 years late actually
What happened 2 years before her first appearance on Politically Incorrect?
Uh..........did you miss the fact that they go way back to Politically Incorrect?
Too busy being up their own ass to know shit was happening 20 years ago without them knowing about it.
Now we know amount of time needed for his testicles to drop down.
Women need warriors like Christina Sommers, not femnazis and professional victims.
Preach on.
She is not a warrior, she is a male's whore.
@@Lili23467 coward !
@@Lili23467 That probably made sense in your head.
and Megan McDonald
Hearing this woman speak so much sense and validating my own views on modern feminism is wonderfully satisfying.
You’re a fuckwit.
@@poopoo2171 You are clearly a scholar of high academic discipline whom relishes a debate and an opportunity to rationalize their own arguments in such a compelling way that those in the immediate vicinity to have their eardrums perked by vocal delivery of such fruitful and wonderous argumentative ideas would be forced to adopt such a worldview such is their splendour. To engage one such as you in debate would be to inevitably be humbled by such skilled mastery and artistry of argumentation. I have too much fragile pride to engage in a contest I would almost certainly lose.
@@poopoo2171 Here's your shekel from George Soros
@randomer1432 You thumbed up your own comment, and yet you're preaching about "confirmation bias" (ie: who better to confirm your opinion than... yourself). I'll let it slide because I do appreciate some good irony every now and then.
I thought I’d keep it at your level. No go play in mommy’s basement, incel
I have worked on campaigns before and I can tell you that sharing rooms and even crashing on people’s couches or at volunteers’ houses is super common and part of campaign culture. If you’re not cool with that, either pay for your own room or don’t work a campaign.
But if you get raped then the usual is “well you shouldn’t have (blah).” So we take precautions then we’re punished for taking precautions.
@@Amateur_Pianist_472
The probability one will get 'raped" while sleeping on a lib volunteer's couch is next to zero.
Just how delusional are you?
@@toserveman9317Are you saying that liberals would never rape someone?
@@123PhoebeC
No.
@@toserveman9317 Just liberals working on a campaign?
Women work 35 hours a week on average against mens 41. Yet if you control for factors like tenure, job specialty, and amount paid per hour oh, there's virtually no wage Gap anyway. The myth has no leg to stand on.
Yep. You don't even have to dig that deep. If women are paid less for the same work then why not just hire all women.
Another great point is the dangerous and dirty jobs that pay really well. I don't see women demanding equal representation in the garbage trucks. My neighbor does it and makes a killing. He said in his twenty years he's seen one woman lol.
It's an earnings gap, not a pay gap, but that doesn't fit certain progress agenda
Wish Bill would bring back Camille Paglia.
Camille Paglia supported NAMBLA back in the day. Look it up
@@user-og6hl6lv7p - no one is perfect - never worship anyone
@@paintballthieupwns It's one thing to be imperfect, it's completely another to support pedophilia.
@@warriorpitbull8784 - agreed - but saying she supports pedophilia is a gross oversimplification and not an honest argument against her no matter how wrong she is on the subject
Oh, and bring back Anita Bryant and Tammy Faye and Jim Bakker as well.
Because that's how we'll make America great again!
Camille's just another Focus on the Family asshole who does ladies' lunch with the likes of Ann Coulter and Laura Ingraham'
They like being "feminine" as defined by the June and Ward Cleaver worm hole. This is not the pre- birth control society that MRAs, Evangelicals and the conservatives want it to be.
I studied physics and computer science in school to be successful in industry and business, proud to be a feminist in such respect. When I had severe complications from pregnancy and was layed off from my job, I thought this sort of women's issue would be the sort of thing feminism would back me up on. Instead I was chastised for wanting to be a mother at all. What has happened to real feminist issues: women's health, child care help and support amongst women. Feels like modern feminism has lost its roots. It was as not about hating men and blaming every negative emotion on lack of sensitivity, was about supporting equality and helping women find themselves in this life.
"[femi] was as not about hating men and blaming every negative emotion on lack of sensitivity,"
#made-up history
There is no modern feminism. It's just social justice warriors. You want equality starting following egalitarianism.
I hope you’re doing well and find your way back to the lab :) or chalk board, or server room, or whatever flavor of physics/compsci you worked in :)
@@aquanetta6307 Cool, you liked your own comment. I can do that too.
Agree. I went to school and competed, got my degree, took no special treatment, didn't bitch and complain, began a solid technical career... and then 15 years later I see these nuts that are calling themselves "feminists" bitching about superficial knitpicky stuff like "fat shaming" and needing "safe spaces" and being really obnoxious and presenting as hyper-gendered and irrational. They don't represent all feminists but they've had a HORRIBLE impact on women and men and feminist goals for both.
Bill.. you need to change your format a bit. If you have an interesting first guest, you can skip the second quest. Would love to hear a detailed conversation instead of a hurried one.
Or maybe do the segments at the end so you can go into overtime or something
@@fudgefudge8913 yeah. It's all held under pressure now. . The monologue, the first interview, the first act, an interlude, second interview, second act, new rules... it's just too much in 1 hour.
Yes! I end up watching Joe Rogan or Dave Rubin rather than mainstream talk shows just for that reason alone. 10mins is too little.
Check her out @ The Factual Feminist on RUclips
Can Americans please stop over stating stuff? This woman tried to claim America has the most free women in the history of the world. The country where several states have made abortion illegal. That doesn't have maternity leave or a minimum wage, hasn't had a female leader and sexually abused girls go into the porn industry. Has this so called American woman been to other countries?
amazing how kind well educated well meaning women who wish to create positive awareness in the world are persecuted as being the bad person
Nah they're just fleeing to the safe zone cause they scare easy.
@Michael Barry If that's the case, why do you and Sommers spread the lie that feminists hate men? They don't. They hate men that think it's okay for heterosexual men to just grab women by the pussy. Imagine if liberals created a system where old gay men could just grab young men by the cock. I'd say a lot of people would hate men like that too.
Like Hillary.
@@soulscanner66 sommers is a feminist.
It is the enemy of any cult.
12 minutes is far too short for Christina Hoff Sommers.
That's why she kept it pithy.
Incel alert
Watch her on Rogan. 3 hours of her. Youre welcome.
ruclips.net/video/S_hS-JXoTMk/видео.html
I spent years on the road, away from home and sleeping in modest hotels. I drove during the winter in dangerous conditions along with all the truckers. I had abusive bosses. I made a good living. My family benefited. Most women would have never put up with this way of life. But I was brought up to be silent and put up with it because I am the man!
jack60091 🥺 sorry you had to go through that but I’m glad you remain optimistic and hopeful 🙌🏽
The same thing could be said for a woman as a waitress, the majority of which are female. You're not he only hard worker in America, don't be a fucking idiot.
I loved to travel when I was younger. Actually, I was going kayaking for several days in a forest. But economic-wise I think a career of a Lawyer would be better than the career of a trucker :). Moreover, AI probably will replace human there anyway Women are willing to put extra hours, work hard, sometimes they work while men are drinking beer because they have to overcome the stereotypes. The best and the most realistic illustration is Kim Wexler in "Better Call Saul". Because of stereotypes women get less promoted, they are hired for less paid positions. It is impossible to fight with it except fighting with the stereotypes. Any lawsuit is career suicide despite what urban legends tell us.
@@thehumanity0, what stops the waitress from growing up to be a trucker? They exist and truckers make 3X what a waitress earns.
@@Lukearthwalker What's your point? There is nothing stopping a waitress from being a trucker. My point was some women work harder than men, some men work harder than women.
"fainting couch feminists" Love it.
Yeah feminists who don’t like sexual assault are “fainting couch feminists” classic gaslighting
@Jane Elliot, Jr. The left? Have you seen some of the crybaby bullshit that is coming out of the right? Check yourself, girl.
@@poopoo2171 you are a fool lol
@@rebeccab817 you are a fool it's not even compare able
More like couch potato feminists
Jon Haidt wrote a whole book about this: The Coddling of the American Mind.
Maher needs to invite him!
Aktion Fragezeichen he was on there about a year ago. Good interview
Thank you for the name man I was looking for books that talks about those issues
That was a great read. His comparison to peanut allergies and our society was brilliant. Also an easy way to get the ideas through the thick skulls of my normie friends lol.
Jon Haidt and Greg Lukianoff. Greg has a speech on RUclips about this phenomenon of campus censorshp driven by students.
she triggered the dog 😂😂😂
She feels bad about the dog... :)
Which is weird since most dogs I cavort with are whores for food, will hump anyone and anything, and expose their genitalia nonstop and with pride. Mine is doing it right now.
@A R Nope.
@John Something Nobody is saying we should terminate Joe Biden's career, the argument is that we should just not make him our president at the bare minimum. The scrutiny did not really begin until Joe Biden announced he wanted to be the King of America, nobody asked him to do that. And is it too much to ask that we don't have to watch our president creepily and awkwardly touching children for 4 years. Calling them pretty, creepily stroking their hair with both hands, putting his hands around their wastes uncomfortably close to their chests, and "accidentally" laying his hands over their breasts when he's not paying attention (aka letting his hands wander). If you're even slightly defending him on this, it's probably because you haven't watched the compilation videos of him touching children. But like I said, the bare minimum, we just don't want him as the president.
I'm sure the dog is fine, the owners however...
“Feminism is captive to a small group of intense eccentrics.” 😂😂😂
alll the thumbs down are from triggered feminists
dani feeling Triggered couch feminists, if you please.
Oh fuck off. Anita Sarkeesian said video games were sexist and men went insane-sent her rape and death threats. Guess who sided with the men sending the death threats-Hoff Sommers
Poo Poo anita was wrong and christina was, too for siding with men sending death and rape threats.
@@noneya2507 "fine people on many sides"
Poo Poo CHS and Cathy Young have addressed that it was largely third party agitators who sent them and that there was doxxing on both sides. Even then, CHS simply cites better data than Sarkeesian, and Sarkeesian’s work is much less scholarly no matter where you fall on the political spectrum.
Any woman who can be traumatized by Dr. Sommers needs to go home, sit on the couch, watch General Hospital, and never do anything else.
That's all you're good for. Stick to it.
james watt That is so funny!
@@poopoo2171, why is it that only your comments all over this video's thread are so salty, who hurt you?
“Who hurt you” you’re going to use that old cliche, numbnuts?
@@poopoo2171 That's exactly why I said it. That tired old cliche "who hurt you" is the go-to comment for feminists when they don't want to try to understand a male's perspective. It seems to apply better to feminists though, at least most least men recover and move on whereas women harbor their anger for life and eventually become feminists.
No you said it because you don’t have a single original thought in your head.
She’s brilliant. A smart and witty feminist.
Not smart at all. Why specialists in childhood education paid less? Their job not as important as plumbers, who paid more? All jobs occupied by women paid less, programming was women's job before and wasn't paid well, now it's a high paying job and women were replaced by men. But even among "female' jobs, men paid better than women fro the same job, like nurses. And taking care of children is not a "private matter". If men did their share of free household labor and child care, women would have more time for paid work.
Nevaliashka you’re wrong. As Prof Sommers says, and alludes to in this video, salary is based on market. Supply and demand economics. How much training is required for early childhood educators? How many are there? How about plumbers? Salary is based on what the job can provide. If feminist dance therapists think their Labour is worth more than what it is currently paid at, then why not simply raise their prices? Because the demand could not sustain it.
Try social workers you fuckwit who have to deal with abused dead kids each day
@@RoyKoopaling How come suppressed groups always "choose" to earn less money than privileged groups? And it's always explained as something "natural", women just "naturally" prefer to do free reproductive labor instead of paid work. Slavery also was explained as "natural".
Nevaliashka sorry, you seem to be defining suppressed groups by way of how much they earn as a whole. But that makes no sense, really, does it? Because although the average ‘male wage’ is higher than the average ‘female wage’, there are maaaaaaaany men on very low wages. For example, check who’s cleaning your sewers or emptying your trash. And more so, you would then be suggesting that Asian men are not a suppressed group? Why?
Bill you're the only lefty chat show host who actually makes me smile and nod. Great interview with a true feminist. Keep at it son.
This was a great interview. So many men bash feminists these days due to how toxic some have become. But it’s interesting to see that it wasn’t always about trying to get someone fired, arrested, or acting like a victim. It was about equality.
Feminism was never about equality. I appreciate what Sommers is trying to do, but she ignores a lot of feminsm's past when trying to make her points.
@@Seabass901 Thank you. Cloud Nine is more like it.
Seabass901 well one bit of history that is often left out is that the Suffragettes were distinctly racist in their view of not allowing blacks, while they thought inferior, to get the vote. Stanton, one of the early leaders of feminism was overtly hostile toward the notion of blacks being trustworthy and capable enough to be allowed to vote. Not sure if that is something the OP was referring to, but it is a stain on their history.
Then there is Simone de Beauvoir’s writing that women should not be permitted,by law, to be stay at home moms or housewives but rather forced to also work full time so they can be “productive in society” rather than what she called “parasites”. She reckoned, rightly, that if given the choice many or most women would choose that option. For her it was not about individual choice but in making society they way she wanted it to be - even if that means sacrificing women’s choices.
She not only wrote if that in her book, but in articles such as this one:
No woman should be authorized to stay at home and raise her children. Society should be totally different. Women should not have that choice, precisely because if there is such a choice, too many women will make that one.” - “Sex, Society, and the Female Dilemma,” Simone de Beauvoir Saturday Review, June 14, 1975.
That is pretty abhorrent to me.
You don’t know the history of the movement then only the Propaganda
Not any more. They have already achieved equality. Now it's just venom and spite, and lying to sustain the power they were given.
"Mini rape" what an insult to people who have actually been raped or sexually assaulted. Imagine somone called you a name, and you went around saying you'd been "mini murdered" get a grip people jeez.
most of the gender wealth gap is at the rich end. For us hourly pay shmucks it's just plain poverty
Precisely.
Its' not even remotely poverty. Most of the world, billions of people, consider the Western world actual 1% because we are. We should be dancing in the streets on most days despite a few hours on Sunday while looking at our check books and accepting that we spend poorly. The average car payment is over $400/month in the US for the first time in history. That's crazy. If politicians were not soulless robots, they would be suggesting that we spend no more than 1/3 income on our car payment. Many are paying over 1/2. These Democrats are focusing on existential crisis for a reason. It's fear while they claim that the other side only operates on fear. Be honest.
"most of the gender wealth gap is at the rich end"
I think that's true. The wealthier the man, the more likely the wife does not work.
"Salary Secrecy - Discrimination Against Women?" malemattersusa.wordpress.com/2014/10/27/salary-secrecy-discrimination-against-women/
@@RJT80 I disagree man. I understand that prices for things are getting higher, but let's do the math based on your numbers. If your car payment is over $400, and that makes up 1/3 to 1/2 of your monthly expenses, that means your income is at $800-$1200 per month. You have two problems to solve. Firstly, your car payment is WAY too high for your level of income. I've been car shopping myself in the last month and a $10,000 car financed for 60 months at a very high 18% interest rate creates a payment of only $250. You can get a fine car for $10000. So I don't know where you're getting this $400 from but if you're paying that much, you're making poor money decisions. That's not the governments fault. It's your responsibility to make sure you're balancing your money.
The second problem is if you're only making $800-1200 per month, then that equates to making only $5.50 to $7/hr, which is below the federal minimum wage, which means you're not even working a full 40 hours per week. You're working part time.
So you're story is, you're working part time and trying to afford a 2014 BMW 328i with 70k miles on it, which is starting to break down and need repair. And now you think it's the government who doesn't care about you. I'm thinking more that YOU aren't caring about you.
I used to think like you, until I started taking responsibility for my finances. After struggling to make more than 40k for the last 10 years without a college degree, within 1 year of dedication, hard work, and attempting to make myself as valuable as possible, I became a Data Analyst making 64k a year. I told myself for years it was because I didn't have a degree. It's a good thing I listened to other people who told me I didn't need one to succeed. Just start turning yourself into someone valuable and knowledgeable in one particular field and people will line up to pay good money for your abilities. Find a niche that interests you, that has a good possibility of growth in income, and focus on learning everything you can about it, get it on a resume, and start applying. It might take you several months of applying, but you'll get it eventually.
Its not though. The issue with the gap is complex and not entirely related to earnings as such. The questions that people that actualy care to understand the issue and are not just biggots trying to justify their stupidity, would be stuff like this:
- Why are jobs related to taking care of other humans, nurses, teachers, social workers paid so badly?
- Why are jobs that inspire speculation, aggressive sales (read cheating people into buy shit) paid better?
- Why are girls and boys railed towards specific aims in life and why not raised to be what they truly want to (which would mean let them try things and fail)
- Given females are the only ones that can reproduce and assuming we want to keep reproducing, why is having kids penalizing carers.
Just to mention a few. Gaps are also not exclusive to gender there are many gaps related to other discrimination, like poverty or location, which can also factor in and even stack. So anyone that is dismissive of the existence of this issues is just ignorant at best.
Thank you for pointing out that there are privileges to being male or female. Most of the homeless I see are men, so the idea that men are "privileged" seems ridiculous to me.
Think of it as statistics: Just because some smokers don't get lung cancer and some non-smokers do doesn't mean smoking isn't bad for your lungs. Just because some men don't have specific benefits doesn't mean that men as a social group aren't privileged. Overall, being a man has more perks than being a woman. But like in statistics, you can't predict an individual case from stats. You can see a general trend.
@@DrBananaPig How is that the case? Women are quickly defended during physical confrontations while men are often scorned.
Women are also believed more easily when the police arrive, even if she's fabricated the incident.
Women aren't essentially evicted from their home during domestic disputes at the rate men are.
Women are seldom required to pay child support, and it's also much more difficult for men to obtain child custody.
Women also seldom have to pay alimony. Even if they are the breadwinners.
There are countless articles about how women are amassing the majority of wealth in America via the divorce courts, which also heavily favor women in general.
There's plenty of societal evidence that contradicts the notion that men have perceived "advantages".
Homelessness is the epitome of underprivilege. Clearly you can be a man and enjoy none of the perks.
@@michaelmfwayne You are focussing on the legal side and a very selective view of legal disputes. Life and privilege is more complex than these specific cases.
@@michaelmfwayne A few small examples from domestic life: Men do less house work (even when both work full time). When men do a little, they are/feel they should be praised.
Men get more sleep when a new born is in the house, since women will more often get up to take care of a fussing child.
Just two little examples
Women (I myself am a woman) want to be seen as strong, yet they get so 'terrified' when a man so much as breathes on them. Yet, they are still expecting a man to give up his seat on a bus. Modern-day feminism makes no sense...
These extreme reactions to basic human contact and interactions are a result of the deteriorating American life where people are mostly busy with surviving and don’t care about each other anymore. Results from friends and family not talking about real life things together. Nobody talks anymore.
Its definitely a factor
Some still do but not compared to the past, in todays world, money is everything.
That's so true. Also teens seem to be raising each other, parents are in their own world
@@2126Eliza As a teacher, I have totally seen this. Parents today never grew up and are still just trying to have their own fun while broadcasting it on social media to people who they think care about them.
This is bs. Most men would react even more extreme what are you talking about.
Wow so insane that people should have to defend not wanting to be touched!! Such an extreme stance!!!
"Go to sleep" lmao
Brian Cheng IKR. 😆
Sounds right to me ~ LOL
😂😂😂
Brian Cheng that’s ridiculous because ppl can’t fall asleep when they’re afraid
@SUPERNATURAL MAN LOL ikr ?
I really like what Christina Hoff Sommers has to say, for me she is spot on and Bill Maher always funny and most of the time smarter than the average bear like as in Yogi bear.🥰✌️
👏👏👏😀😀😀 Yes! educated , unemotional and rational,
I'd never heard of Christina Hoff before watching this but she just became my new hero! Searching online and going to buy her book right now
Search RUclips for - The Factual Feminist. She is very smart and she debunks a lot of bs.
@@obed5oa thanks for that, just found the vids and planning to start binge watching now 😀😁
@@amyhudson1023 Have fun. 🥂
Look up 'Femsplainers' on RUclips, it's great. She and a friend do it together, conscious intelligent conversations.
Read her first book, "Who Stole Feminism?" Get it from the library, or a bit of searching may turn something up. I bought it in a bookstore when it came out, thinking the title was intriguing. It was my first major red pill. Look up the part about the Jewish groups at a women's conference. Look up the paragraph about Annie Ballad.
This woman is my type of feminist. Well done Bill. People need to see this. I miss classical liberalism and this type of intellectual thinking.
You mean a tool of a conservative lobby?
@@ChrisO-xz7so You think she's a tool of a conservative lobby ?. And I think you're an idiot, There.
@@ChrisO-xz7so Did you not hear her? She is a life long democrat and 2nd wave feminist. She ain't no conservative buddy. The fact that the left has labeled her a conservative, shows just how radical and stupid they have become. Return the Democratic party back to normalcy or there's a good chance that Trump and Pence are winning the next two presidencies.
A feminist is not supposed to fit into the male projection of who she must be! Feminism is precisely to free us from the male psyche prototypes of who we should be! 🙄
@@lenaghio5266 What? I am not saying she MUST be anything. I'm stating that her view of feminism aligns with my own moral views on how the two genders should interact in society. Are you saying that she and I can't agree on what feminism should be about because I'm a man and she is woman? If so, I think that's a dangerous idea, and I disagree.
Love her. She speaks truth to power. She is what this movement is supposed to be about: equality.
She speaks truth to people who pretend that they have no power, but institutionally they are the establishment.
@@R_L_A_G Exactly, they bitch about institutional power while simultaneously having it.
@John Something She's a right-wing grifter that fits into a niche. Hers is that she's a woman that claims to be a feminist (in no, way, shape or form is she) while constantly defending men that do horrible shit (see: GamerGate). Grifting on the right-wing is easy money. Look at Candance Owens. She ran a liberal website that tanked. She then vanishes and pops up again and is hard-right to the point that she denies that the Southern Strategy even exist. Not she's getting invited to the White House. Her niche is to be the black woman that tells Republicans that they aren't really racist. Or you have someone like Tim Pool, the "liberal" who does nothing but make videos attacking liberals.
@John Something I'm referring to individuals like University professors that have institutional power like being able to no-platform people. Not entire sexes.
@John Something I don't think my comment about Tim is anything like you describe with conservatives. It's incredibly important to criticize your own party when you think they're not representing what you think they should. Bill is actually a good example of this. He regularly criticizes Democrats. But I wouldn't hesitate to call him a liberal. The issue with Tim isn't that he criticizes Democrats. It's that it's all he does. To the point of hypocrisy.
What hypocrisy? Well Tim is one of those guys that loves to complain about censorship. He's a big free speech guy. When Twitter reportedly removed an account for the pro-life movie Unplanned, he was very quick to make content about that. But then the state of Alabama decided that their PBS wasn't going to run an episode of Arthur that featured two gay characters getting married. Rather mysteriously he had nothing to say about that. So apparently he thinks it's far more concerning that a corporation is deciding what what content you can see than a state deciding it. Imagine how much content he'd make if a liberal state like California, Washington or New York were to decided that they weren't going to air something that was perceived as being conservative. This hypocrisy is something that's extremely popular on the right. Their entire narrative is that liberals are trying to hurt free speech. But they conveniently ignore what conservatives do.
Like two or so weeks ago there was a story about a 17 year-old Palestinian boy that was accepted in Harvard, but then had his visa stripped and was deported. Why? Because the government went through his social media accounts and found that some of his friends had criticized the US. It wasn't even something that he personally said. Now thankfully not too long after that the decision was revered. But when it came down I don't recall those that claim to love free speech coming to his defense. Similarly those people are quiet when Trump floats the idea of cracking down on what journalists are allowed to say. None of that fits the narrative that they're trying to push about liberals, so they don't talk about it.
To address your comments specifically. The whole "identity politics" criticism annoys me the most. Because people act like it's somehow exclusive to Democrats and then just entirely ignore what Republicans have done. I mean, hello Southern strategy? Something that is literally entirely about identity politics. Or look at Trump. You don't think his entire campaign was about identity politics? From him spending the entirety of Obama's presidency pushing a racist conspiracy theory that he wasn't really American, announcing his presidency while accusing Mexico of sending rapists and murderers to the country, courting black voters by standing in front of a nearly all white crowd and dumping on their neighborhoods before eventually saying, 'What do you have to lose, to actively defending the Confederacy despite the fact that he was born, raised and lives in a union state. It's all identity politics. Except it's squarely aimed at white people, and in particular white males. So are identity politics just acceptable when they're aimed at white people?
So again, the issue is not about criticizing the left. That's something that I again agree is absolutely necessary. To give another example, Hassan Minhaj on his Patriot Act show recently did an episode where he criticized Justin Trudeau's handling of issues in Canada. Trudeau is viewed by many as being a posterboy for liberal issues. But Minhaj interviewed him for that episode and still criticized his handling of environmental issues. As well as his dealings with Saudi Arabia when it came to weapons deals. He did that to his face. That's all needed in order to make the party what we want it to be. But there's a huge difference between that, and what Tim does. Where making videos ranting and raving about Democrats is all he does. 2/3 branches of the government are controlled by Republicans. Earlier this year you had several conservative states making heavy moves to crackdown on abortion rights. Trumps and his admin are pushing some of the most harmful environmental policies we've ever seen. Yet Tim's out here making videos about liberal celebrity tweets.
This kind of common sense discussion will upset the overly sensitive.
This is not common sense nor femsplaining there is a reason she has a hard time on campuses she creating a revolving door for the same continous patriarchal bs she says she started in the 70s and thats the feminism she understands well guess what as a black feminist my voice wouldn't have been able to help shape the movement back then so she's crying about 3 women that control the movement now and cant seem to look back and see who was benefiting from her type of feminism in the 70s it sure wasnt my people nor my lgtbq+ family just saying white women for all their hoopla fell in line with their white husbands
Jojo D You're describing subjects that have nothing to do with feminism. Feminism by definition is only concerned with achieving equality of the sexes. Intersectional 'feminists' have hijacked the movement and turned it into a neo-Marxist power struggle that is tearing apart the fabric of society.
@@Jhanelle4900 - Maybe you should listen again.
STOP CALLING ME "OVERLY SENSITIVE"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jeff Jeffries gaslighting usually is packaged as a “common sense discussion...” lotta dudes on this sure love CHS still of feminism... hmmmmnm
CHS.. always the voice of reason. We simply don't have enough of her.
her voice is so soothing and she is so elegant :'(
I only watched this because Jordan Peterson recommended it on his Twitter account. Thank you for this..I despise Bill , but I really enjoyed this 🚺.
geez i am glad i went to college in the late 90's.
Must be nice to be able to go to college...
@@ivanttosuckyourblood yes i agree, big 10 state school, only $1550 per semester. the tuition these days is fucking insane.
Im so glad I skipped college in the early 90s. But Im also okay with your experience.
@@RJT80 cool
These nutty femi-nazis have existed forever. I ran into them in college in the early 90s. The difference was we used to laugh at them or ignore them. Now people's critical thinking skills are gone so they are taking them seriously. People just blindly believe whatever their favorite RUclipsr told them (both left and right), and don't even give it a cursory examination.
Wow! Amazingly honest conversation.
Kudos from a republican!
@TarianT
If you value honesty as much as you say, then as a Republican I hope you defiantly repudiate Trump, who has more than 12,000 documented public lies to his name since taking office.
Poo Poo
Ew. That’s so homophobic 😆
Your outrage is music to me 😁
Ted L
I voted Clinton in 2016.
Voting Trump 2020.
Ted L no collusion and this Ukraine impeachment farce is already falling apart. Don’t like trump much but let’s face it the left knows they can’t beat him head on in 2020. Biden is a corrupt gaffer, warren is a Hillary 2.0 while lying that she was Native American to get ahead while trying to be like Bernie sanders. And Sanders well the DNC is trying to screw him over. Gabbard was the only normal choice but again the establishment doesn’t want her anti war pro free speech stance in the way. The democrats have become nothing but virtue signaling panderers. Maybe pelosi needs to stop with the impeachment crap and fix her state since it’s become a massive shithole
Bill Maher hates the PC culture he pushes. Sorry Bill, you can't scream racism and sexism all the time and get annoyed at people who are overly sensitive about gender and race issues. It is a culture he helps cultivate. Sommers at least is consistently logical.
Great Point Eric the Great lol
Unfortunately, some men have swallowed the feminist idea that men suck.
Thank you! I'm rather out of the loop regarding this ultra-"feminism" movement. I was shocked when my son told me he didn't like feminists because they hate men...when I read rightwingers disparage "feminism". Huh??? Now I understand. This isn't the feminism I grew up with. It's obnoxious.
it is all rightwing propaganda. they have been very effective at spreading lies and mischaracterizations of the Left online, especially youtube. They practice a thing called cointelpro. the people who actually get work done on the left actually hate these cry bullies and their cancel culture. But we have to fight off both the right and the woke lefty children.
@@donkeyshow8543 It's natural conlcusion of identity politics, no not all leftists are extremists but it rather depends on how you define "leftist". I am a proponent of universal basic healthcare, I am in favor of a social saftey net to stop people falling into financial dispair, I believe in championing mutual respect of one another, I believe that our similarities mean more than our differences when interacting with one another, I believe in shared common humanity between everyone, I believe in tackling discrimination based on sex, race gender etc wherever we find it...
Call it what you want (PC Culture, Cultural Marxism, Patriarchy, Intersectionality), but the far left is currently pushing a narrative which places people into groups (based on characteristics as benign as the colour of fucking skin organ) and determining that they can speak for everyone in said group. Then, they are placing the groups along power structures which will encourage resentfulness and bitterness. The people looking for these kind of belief structures trend toward personality traits that are nihilistic and desperate. They have no meaning and they feel out of control. This is a movement that provides them with a semblance of both, manipulating them against their own best interests.
This encourages a tribal mindset, where the other is the ultimate evil trying to keep them down. This encourages moral zealotry where people are convinced that their politics are the most moral because they are stripping down the power structures and the social elements oppressing people. This encourages suppression of any dissent, because anyone who disagrees must be evil. Feminists like to point out that there's no unifying voice to feminism, but the point is, the extremes will get more emboldened over time whilst slowly pushing the moderate voices out. Other moderates will become blind to the dangers, and the opportunists will take over demanding more extreme solutions to ideas that no one is allowed to question...
These ideas are being pushed by universities, and dissention shut down. They are spreading to the real world where prestigious journalists are pushing bad social science as fact. With companies capitulating to extreme voices on twitter and leaders in the left repeating their nonsense to avoid being called out as one of the bad elements themselves. Recently, a widely known and like left wing personality (Contra Points) questioned the narrative slightly and now she has been harassed of twitter by the people originally singing her praises. At least sillicon valley didn't get involved with this one. This is not the type of world anyone should want to live in, and this isn't even touching on the fact that when you open up the tone to be around group based dynamics off of unmutable characteristics. You have no idea how people are going to react...
onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/pops.12563
@@donkeyshow8543 No it isn't. I'm a liberal and most self-identifying feminists I know are precisely how they are characterized to be.
Notice how quiet Bill's audience was for the first few minutes, like they didn't know if they were allowed to applaud or clap without backlash? Amazed to also see someone acknowledge the wage gap myth on this show!
Gene Anthony. Right. I did notice but not only for the first few minutes. The subject is so un-popular that people find it hard to even listen, much less to process what is being said.
@ people have been talking about how the wage gap narrative is dishonest for decades (except the media ignores it) and adjusted for all variables the difference is almost nill. They've even challenged feminists to debate it and they refused. It's illegal to pay women less than men and has been for decades and frankly the one question people who believe in it never think about is if companies can pay women less for the same job why don't they hire nothing but women? These companies who have no issue automating every job they can, or are trying to outsource jobs to 3rd world countries to drop cost, or increase H1B visas in order to get more foreign workers to take jobs away from Americans or at least suppress wages. Like religion it's been beaten into people's heads unchallenged for decades so people assume it's true and get uncomfortable when it's challenged. Sommers is addressing (as she calls it) fainting couch feminists who need safe spaces and confort dogs and took over academia speaking in half truths and controlling the narrative.
Especially when Bill usually doesn't bother pushing back when his panelists harp on about the wage gap.
Karen Aguilar shut the fuck up and get in order. You soften your ass up and embrace traditional values you will find a husband, have children, and be HAPPY.
Or be liberal bitter bitch to the grave
@ The wage gap is a myth. Businesses exist for one reason only--revenue raising. If in general women really could be paid less for identical work outcomes, every field would be chock full of women. That's not the case. Obviously. If WOC worked cheaper still, every field would be dominated by WOC. That's not the case either.
Feminists always say "on average" when they talk about the wage gap, never wanting to go into the specifics.
@ECKohns 'How dare you' :D
Thank you! I always believed (and still do) that men and women are equal and should be treated as such, and in that regard I consider myself a feminist. But ever since I was first introduced to some of the beliefs and conventions of neo-feminism, I felt something was off about them, yet every time I tried to discuss the matter rationally with someone, I was shouted down and called a sexist. That went on for about ten years, then I just kept my mouth shut for another nine because I got tired of people not listening. And today, nineteen years later, I get to see a pioneer of modern feminism go on TV and make the exact points I've been trying to argue since 2000. Thank you!
Too bad men and women aren't equal.
@@jondunmore4268 There's no way this is going into a good direction, so let's just keep the lid closed on that can of worms, shall we?
He is right, men and women are not equal. If they were, men would be able to give birth, and women wouldn’t live 5-10 years longer than men.
@@jondunmore4268 Holy $#! % you mean that men work hard labor jobs, and women work jobs that require more empathy; you are a genius!
... Grow up and stop trolling
@@derrickjenkins2455 No two people are equal if equal means same. Inf fact, you aren't equal to other men.When people say equal, it should be obvious to any rational person that they mean equal in humanity and deserving respect.
Worlds are colliding.
I'm the first reply on a rubin report comment.
I ag-uh-ree with that
My dad is a collage teacher and was told off for saying "you guys" to his class because it is "sexist" despite the fact that there were NO GIRLS in his class.
That happened to me when I was in college about 8 years ago. I was a Resident Advisor (RA). During my training before the school year started, I walked in on Day 1 and said "hey guys how's it going?." After that meeting, I was pulled aside by one of the Residential Life Staff who was a big time SJW and was told to not say "Hey Guys" again because as a man I'm overlooking a female's presence in the room and it's sexist. I believe in showing compassion, but political correctness can go very far to the point where it's stifling. That's why people are resentful now.
i say you guys all the time and run in extremely left circles. this is one of those fabricated "sjw have lost their minds!" ideas
@@GayTier1Operator I'm glad you haven't been subjected to that kind of treatment. But this has been my experience. It's not fabricated when it happened.
@@Dan-ys8nk You should walk into every room and say "Hey Ladies" from now on and see how long it takes for a "guy" to punch you in the face for disrespecting him.
@@kernalbert4939 good point. In the end, it's a no win situation. It's not about saying, "Hey, you!."
I'm a republican but I respect Bill Maher's efforts to put some sanity back on the Democratic Party. Sommers definitely is a rational feminist I can talk to.
He’s doing that because he sees his party throwing itself off the bridge
Bless you, Christina and Bill, for helping keep the voice of mental sanity alive.
“Mini Rape”, sounds like minipax minilove , Orwell cries....
i thought stuff like that was just a parody. the fuck
I'll care about your Gender Wage Gap when you care about Fathers' Custody Gap.
Comment of the day!
Or the workplace fatality gap. Or the suicide gap.
I care about it -- Do you care now?? lol :)
@@Devonellah Call your legislature (State) who make the decisions, put your name to any complaint, and contact any and all of the parenting organizations working for equal justice for fathers...post it on the web, all over, that you care, that you are doing something...all women need to step up and stop other women from abusing their own children (and their fathers) by weaponizing them in divorce/family law matters. ALL WOMEN MUST STEP UP.
Equality feminists do.
I bought her book when it was new learned the term " gender feminists and equity feminists "
So you've been programmed by the American Enterprise Institute, as planned.
@A Cool Million Women are more emotionally manipulative though. They are more emotionally intelligent, and use that to their advantage.
A Cool Million I used to work in foster care. There are plenty of abusive women out there. And if you don’t believe that there are fine men you are an idiot. Not every man is twisting his mustache planning his next rape or beating his wife, etc. What about all the men that risk their lives to save others? I don’t see women out in natural disasters rescuing people. But I guess natural disasters are made by men, right?
@O’ Mahoney "We really need to evolve 10 levels up. "
We need to become robots.
Humans are still fundamentally animals and no amount of IQ improvement to the populace or social engineering will eradicate violent crime completely.
@A Cool Million "Males, the planet-wide, are extremely more violent than women"
The founder of the first womens shelter would disagree with you - she found that women could be just as physically abusive as men, and originally tried to cater to abused men also until she was essentially ran out of the field she created for her views.
My own mother was the violent one in my family - cracked a bottle over my fathers head, whipped me with a belt, kicked me, hit me with a poker for f**k sake.
Anyone who says men are much more violent is simply ignorant of this truth - and these bogus stats are exactly the kind of thing that blinds people to the truth when it is staring them in the face.
Try walking down a street full of pubs, bars and nightclubs - chances are you will see women getting into fights outside too, I certainly have seen a few take a swing at a bouncer.
Both genders are extremely capable of violence, their upbringing is key to whether that capability becomes reality.
Not a huge fan of Bill Maher, but I have to throw some credit his way for having Christina on.
I noticed how Bill Maher downplayed the male suicide rate and safety accidents, which is typical of men. That's what has to change, and men will have to do a lot if not most of that work. It doesn't mean you're unmanly if you look after your own health-it means you are smart. Thumbs up to Christina Hoff Sommers for helping us see the excesses of modern feminism.
Christina is an amazing person and I wish her all the best in bringing people together again! 😊
Everything she says makes perfect sense. Why doesn't everyone just agree with her
Long standing conditioning.
Not all, but some of what she says is overexaggerated to prove her point. Yes, the concept of political correctness is massively unappealing, but the fallacy is where people claim just how widespread it is, and also the assumption that political correctness doesn't exist among men as well. There is overly-emotional nonsense everywhere and on both sides of any argument, Sommers problem is that she doesn't have much nuance to go around and she seems to think dumb overly sensitive college kids are the complete embodiment of modern-day feminism.
@@thehumanity0 those college kids are being taught to behave that way by college professors who are pushing modern feminism in a direction that very few people approve of. Dave Chappelle's recent comedy skit against cancel culture is something I saw as a positive development because more and more people try to silence everyone they disagree with by shutting them down insulting them and shaming them. I'm worried about where all this is going although I do hope that as people grow up they realize how ineffective and negative these kinds of tactics are
@@dmc8706 You just answered your own concerns. People grow up, they grow out of phases. Saying some 1st or 2nd year college students embody the direction that feminism and Western culture is going is pretty silly. I don't think Sommers is a bad faith actor (I think she, specifically, makes some good over-arching points), but there are more than enough grifters out there that prop up PC college kids as a strawman against feminism or even Left-wing politics in general. It's a tactic used to delegitimize entire groups of people who all don't believe the same thing and have different factions disagreeing on many topics.
❤Based Mom❤
Redpilled mom
The weird thing to me is, who the hell wants to work 90hrs a week? If more men are doing that then that’s their prerogative, but I don’t think feminists should pick up the torch and want to drag all the other women up that hill.
Men do it out of a born necessity to provide for their families, and out of a commitment to the job. Which is often times why they move up the ranks, and women do not. Another reason is that women often quit the workforce entirely to raise families within only a handful of years.
Ofcouse feminists don't want that, what feminists want is to work 30hrs a week and get paid for 90hrs.
They do it to get ahead of the competition and impress women. To bad feminists forgot their reason for being.
@Jesus Christ Like wear a sack on her head and risk getting stoned for rape?
That's not what she said.
Good God, a feminist using pure reason and logic!
IT IS POSSIBLE!
I think it's about 20 years since they talked on tv
How about putting more money into things that matter - taking care of children, and elders
so fucking true.
Teachers and nurses come to mind.
Demand and Supply
If teachers went on mass strike or many quit , Demand will rise leading to more pay. Econ 101
how about dont have kids if you cant afford them
Interview Heather Mac Donald!!
South Park episodes are satire/comedy people, not step by step on how to live your life!
That’s what I’ve been thinking for the past 2-3 years. It’s like the current culture has turned into one big South Park episode, and not ironically either. It’s a wretched time for anyone funny, to find stuff people will not ‘cancel,’ you over.
As a young women...I was wondering why no one talks about this.... and was so happy to find her 95 talks
I think she left out one thing about the early goals of feminism. It was also to permit women the freedom to choose a career, and not be restricted by men, or by tradition. Sadly, this is sometimes overlooked, as some women want to choose to be wife, mother, and homemaker. They are allowed that choice too; but too many modern feminists insist they MUST choose something else.
She explained the reasons behind the "pay gap" well.
Very well!
Freakonomics goes into detail on the (non)issue: freakonomics.com/podcast/the-true-story-of-the-gender-pay-gap-a-new-freakonomics-radio-podcast/
disagree. I went into a male profession knowing it paid better, against all kinds of academic discrimination, and the discrimination never stopped, with pay, how i was treated, in all regards. I think she's blind to the nuances of how discrimination works.
I'm sure she wouldn't deny anecdotal cases of discrimination.
@@radicalaccounting maybe its just you? my mom manages a nuclear power plant... a male dominated field, and she always laughs at people acting like women have it tough in male dominated fields
I'm as conservative as they come and I still really like what she had to say.
Summers is a Libertarian though. I thought you Conservatives don't want anything to do with Libertarians.
She has a conservative take on feminism, not a liberal one, so mystery solved
@@DavidBustamanteda-bu-sa -- Conservatives have no clue WHAT they want.
@@jondunmore4268 Are you a progressive?
@@hollygoheavily260 She actually describes herself as liberal feminist as opposed to what some might call a radical feminist.
"I triggered a dog."
I'm so fucking done.
AS A BLACK MALE THAT HAS READ BELL HOOKS...BLACK FEMINISM IS WAAAAAY MORE HARSH...WHITE FEMINISM....(LIGHT!)
I typically hold a door for anyone, be it man, woman or child. It's just the way I was raised. Anyway, a few years ago I opened a door for a 20 something woman and she turned around and said I was only doing that because I wanted to control her. I was shocked at the time and just stood there dumbfounded, but in today's world it wouldn't surprise me if I heard that again.
Always banging out the facts! My kind of lady :)
Feminism ever being about equality sure as hell isn't factual
I think a lot of that 'women aren't adept at negotiating for themselves' is really more of a case of when a man says "No", he's taken as having decided, and that's the end of it... but a woman saying "No" is taken as an open argument that requires a bit more convincing.
You don't think that's a problem
@Jesus Christ fuck Jesus
Strength via victimhood is a paradox. Expecting the world to change to embrace your weakness is surely the downfall of humanity.
What you just said is a very old argument made by someone who think women are either strong or weak. It's a lot more complicated than that.
Nah, just this generation. Humanity is resilient. We will recover from whatever damage we do to ourselves and carry on. But it will be a horrible end for those who can't.
@@SpacemanXC I hope so man. People are crazy though. I bet right now there's someone just working on fresh ways to make life harder for most people.
Eliah Holiday powerful words.
Victimhood games in modern West is what is our downfall, Islam is now widely considered a victim also
I read her first book in 2001....it taught me soooo much!
Man, how hard it was to find this amazing thinker! I'm glad I could remember her name.
Whoops. She told the truth.
Based mom
She made some great points and she also seems like a very nice person.
She's a rightwing asshole who makes her living as a professional misogynist and she routinely blocks critics on Twitter because she's a great big hypocrite about "safe spaces."
www.pinkerite.com/search/label/Christina%20Hoff%20Sommers
@@nancygerette your reply couldn't have been as good if written by anyone else not named Nancy. 😆
She's a registered Democrat.
What a delight to see Dr. Hoff Sommers still getting large platforms like this. She and Camille Paglia have been beating the drum for reasonable equity feminism since the early 90s. These are the types of women we should be looking to as role models for women- strong, intelligent, and balanced minds who see reality clearly. Not pathological messes like Lena Dunham, Alexandria Ocasio Corte, or Alyssa Milano who are biased and warped preachers of the oppressive patriarchy narrative.
Christina is awesome, love her "factual feminist"! Keep it up!!
Bill needs a podcast.
I like the idea of multiple views by smart, well-intentioned people living in a non-Orwellian, non-Trump society.
She is worth listening to and reading.
Hell yeah, me too!
WOW! What's this? Common sense on a liberal's show? Now this is what the right is talking about... thinking beyond the ACCUSATIONS.
You don't find much common sense on conservative shows either.
I really enjoy watching her and reading her material. She’s very educated and spot on with many issues.
This woman is awesome!!! Thank you for having her on your show!!
I am so tired of this conversation... I have moved on from this problem years ago... I've made my social adjustments. Get over it.
I am the problem because I listened to many, many different women and came to a conclusion where I agree with them on many aspects and made corrections in my behavior? ...I am the problem because I can have reason? I am the problem because I have empathy for others plight.... You are a fucking arrogant idiot who lives in a fucking bubble and you will never adapt or grow... you are a slave to your ideologies and I would pity you more if I was so sure that you prefer the world as it was and not as what it can be... you have two eyes and two ears so you should listen an watch more than you speak. You are nothing more than a echo chamber... you have no real personality or independent thought. go back into the darkness and eat shit.
To cleans the drama by cleansing the assumptions of others from others. Eliminating the BS that constantly gets in the way of truth and harmony. I don't believe anyone.
@100philosopher let me clarify more. Most of my life has been devoted to finding a good woman to be with. Most attempts failed... I believed the failure was on me or my approach. I saw other guys have no problems being with or "getting" the girls... So I mimic behaviors in order to attract women. I adapted to my surroundings and tried different approaches... Failure again and again... I came to realize a horrible truth... The truth was the other guys who behaved like idiots who got the girls were simply more attractive. They were skinnier. Who I am in my mind never mattered. Not in the slightest. What I did.... My character never mattered... The only variable that sperated me from the women I desire was/is my appearance. So as a result I don't believe anyone when they tell me or show me how to attract women. Actions, Behaviors, integrity, intelligence and charm do not matter. My experience tells me lies are everywhere... Hope is a carrot that feeds denial. Acceptance of how shitty the world is towards certain people is the only way to gain footing. I don't believe anyone. I don't believe their advise of comforting slogans anymore. I am done trying. Because their is no hope... Soon their will be no desire left... A grey bleak world but finally true.
@@patrickskramstad1485 Just checking in 4 years later: how's life under the rock?
Both Christina Hoff Summers & Bill Maher have been listening to alot of Jordan Peterson... which is a good thing!! Bill should have him back on the show with Christina H Summers and have them talk about the biological differences between Men & Women
Really really really really tired of Maher’s live audience.
This woman is a someone who I consider middle of the ground. Reasonable.
Thank God for this woman.
Christina: _"I triggered a dog. I felt bad."_
Bill: _"Don't take it personally. She was a bitch."_
Looks like Bill Maher is turning into Dave Rubin.
Andrew Bockhorst no he’s not.
Based Mom in the House!!!
That was a refreshing sketch to see. I am glad there are still sane liberals out there because things are getting nuts in both the right and the left.
A very good interview. Thanks, Bill and Christina, for the insights.
'Women bore the brunt of mens's savagery.'
Because the men defending them and dying for it, don't count as human.
Thank you for clearing that up.
Christina is great! But maybe we just need to find another word for 'feminism' as she discribes it. How about 'equalitism'?
Misogyny and misandry are both conservative in nature...
3rd and 4th wave feminism are quite conservative against men...
It's refreshing to hear common sense coming from liberals
It seems to be in short supply on either side.
@@OrangeHand Maher is old-school liberal: a defender of free speech, anti-PC, against socialism, and wary of Islamic migration. Not many of his kind left...
I've never heard him say he's against socialism, though maybe it depends on how he defines it, since I've heard various terms (corporate socialism, democratic socialism, etc). I know he's spoken out against certain capitalist practices and people as well, though I can't remember the details.
@@OrangeHand Maher's common sense take (and funny): ruclips.net/video/jrfbWtMgyk8/видео.html
Bill, people smelled each other’s hair in the 1970s. There was a shampoo called “Gee, Your Hair Smells Terrific.”
Sommers is so refreshing to listen to. I wish our culture had more sensibility like this.