There's a price for everyone, but for the 49ers to even entertain trading Nick you'd be looking at either 3 firsts or something involving Herbert - that's not a price that the Chargers are willing (nor should be willing) to pay.
Great analysis. I think the thing I really see is the lack of any kind of an interior push up the middle. The pocket is collapsing from the outside, but we really need improvement in the interior DL.
Its no secret the defense is way better with him on the field. It sucks because we all know what he could be. He arguably has better football iq than Nick, but its his effort that sometimes gets in his way. He needs to stay healthy.
Joey Bosa’s technique independently is very good but he lacks discipline and teamwork. Why I say he sucks at teamwork stems from when he would get stupid penalties like the Jacksonville game.
He plays with worse balance than Nick, and isn't as physical. Nick maintains lower leverage with crisper technique and a better bull rush, and is also way better at maintaining lane integrity when running stunts etc.
Oh boy I really hope so. Throw in Tuli and if they all stay healthy we could have a very special defense. I'm also expecting big years out of Matlock, Clark and Henley. They all have a ton of upside but need to be in a proper defense that's not contingent on random bullshit to operate efficiently. Minter will be a head coach in the next 3-4 years and I wouldn't be surprised if we have a top 10 defense next year regardless of how the draft goes.
I’m really hoping Ben Herbert’s training program can keep Joey Bosa healthy for a full season. Then Mack, Bosa and Tuli would be a nightmare for opposing QBs.
If tuli continues to develop as a good end player and line backer, he would maximize the production of Mack and bosa whilst still being great AND continue to be an amazing player after Mack or bosa leaves to fill their roll
Keeping Mack and Bosa and letting Keenan Allen and Mike Williams go was such a smart move for many reasons. They aren't rebuiliding, this is reformatting. This roster is honestly not that far away from a team that can beat anybody. This might sounds absolutly crazy, but I can see them winning the division next year. Yes I know the chiefs just won the superbowl, but I'm predicting they are gonna start regressing fast starting next year. Once Kelce retires its game over for sure, but hes gonna start regressing soon even if he doesn't retire.
Joey Bosa is absolutely elite and makes this d line look really nice. Imagine if they draft Kris Jenkins to hold down the middle with Poona Ford, Morgan Fox keeps getting better and all those guys lining up with the one and only Khalil Mack on the other side? Gonna get lots of Mahsacks!
We’ll see…still not optimistic on him staying on the field for full games by week 4 (his injuries are a yearly trend…)Hope I’m wrong for the sake of the team.
People forget that pre-staley, Joey was tearing it up with Melvin Ingram. The mainthing with joey is his health. If he can stay healthy and get another space eating D-Tackle to pair up with Poona Ford, hes gonna be a monster again with Khalil
Trivia Question: Who had the first penalty for the Chargers in 2023? Yep! That would be #97 on the very first play of the season. He jumped off sides but nothing new. Come on man. Bosa gave up the edge far too many times over the last several years. He would use his inside spin move with nobody else on the outside giving help with the QB taking off around the corner.
The Chargers defense has been bottom 5 garbage the past three years and the offense has been top 5. Yet they stupidly clean house on the offensive side and keep the trash defense. Harbaugh is supposed to be so smart but that was just dumb, Im sorry. Should have been the other way around.
Joey sucks! Khalil is better but even at times a little underwhelming. You have two of the best edge rushers in the game and the games they did play together haven’t felt like a scary dominant D-Line. You would think I’m having both of them that they would be making it hell for a QB from either side but can’t say that’s been the case. They’ve looked average together.
Joey bosa has been a lost cause. Every training camp he isolates himself from the team and only works in individual drills until team periods come around. Cant trust him to be a team player since he only plays for the team when necessitated
When you said you went back and watched every Bosa play last year I hit the subscribe button. I wish the major media personalities were more like you!
I think you can count on Maclane becoming a major player in the sports media
Go get his little brother, he plays with heart
not gonna happen
They both do. You're just rocking an extra chromosome
There's a price for everyone, but for the 49ers to even entertain trading Nick you'd be looking at either 3 firsts or something involving Herbert - that's not a price that the Chargers are willing (nor should be willing) to pay.
This makes me realize how much I love watching the D-line
Great analysis. I think the thing I really see is the lack of any kind of an interior push up the middle. The pocket is collapsing from the outside, but we really need improvement in the interior DL.
He is telling the truth
When players want to play good for their coaches they play completely different
Its no secret the defense is way better with him on the field. It sucks because we all know what he could be. He arguably has better football iq than Nick, but its his effort that sometimes gets in his way. He needs to stay healthy.
I think harbaugh is the right coach to discipline him
I don’t know Nick plays really smart out there. Nick is shorter & smaller and also more productive than Joey.
Joey Bosa’s technique independently is very good but he lacks discipline and teamwork. Why I say he sucks at teamwork stems from when he would get stupid penalties like the Jacksonville game.
It’s cause he a distraction not cause he wreaks havoc. The man needs to grow up.
He plays with worse balance than Nick, and isn't as physical. Nick maintains lower leverage with crisper technique and a better bull rush, and is also way better at maintaining lane integrity when running stunts etc.
Maybe we'll finally see the max potential of Mack and Bosa.
Oh boy I really hope so. Throw in Tuli and if they all stay healthy we could have a very special defense. I'm also expecting big years out of Matlock, Clark and Henley. They all have a ton of upside but need to be in a proper defense that's not contingent on random bullshit to operate efficiently. Minter will be a head coach in the next 3-4 years and I wouldn't be surprised if we have a top 10 defense next year regardless of how the draft goes.
If Healthy Joey Bosa Khalil Mack Tuli Tuipulotu Morgan Fox are a dominant 4 man pass rush But the Key Word is WHEN HEALTHY ⚡⚡⚡⚡
I’m really hoping Ben Herbert’s training program can keep Joey Bosa healthy for a full season. Then Mack, Bosa and Tuli would be a nightmare for opposing QBs.
If tuli continues to develop as a good end player and line backer, he would maximize the production of Mack and bosa whilst still being great AND continue to be an amazing player after Mack or bosa leaves to fill their roll
It won't because that's not what S&C does
Keeping Mack and Bosa and letting Keenan Allen and Mike Williams go was such a smart move for many reasons. They aren't rebuiliding, this is reformatting. This roster is honestly not that far away from a team that can beat anybody. This might sounds absolutly crazy, but I can see them winning the division next year. Yes I know the chiefs just won the superbowl, but I'm predicting they are gonna start regressing fast starting next year. Once Kelce retires its game over for sure, but hes gonna start regressing soon even if he doesn't retire.
Joey Bosa is absolutely elite and makes this d line look really nice. Imagine if they draft Kris Jenkins to hold down the middle with Poona Ford, Morgan Fox keeps getting better and all those guys lining up with the one and only Khalil Mack on the other side? Gonna get lots of Mahsacks!
Worth remembering that edge players are some of the most penalized because of snap timing
We’ll see…still not optimistic on him staying on the field for full games by week 4 (his injuries are a yearly trend…)Hope I’m wrong for the sake of the team.
With the addition of Ben Herbert, all of our players are going to be top-notch baby go chargers!!!!!!!!
Best Ability is Availability
Bust to date...hoping for better
"to date" means from start, to current date. You missed 2016 and 2017 completely
Elite? thats very questionable.....gotta be on the field to be Elite and we all know Joey likes to get in about 7-8 games a year and get paid for 17.
Setting the edges. ⚡
People forget that pre-staley, Joey was tearing it up with Melvin Ingram. The mainthing with joey is his health. If he can stay healthy and get another space eating D-Tackle to pair up with Poona Ford, hes gonna be a monster again with Khalil
Congrats on all of your success young man.. Stay humble and BTFU!
Harbaugh should have let bosa go, and kept Keenan! Bosa is always hurt.
Cut cut cut
No lie this Bosa video but i see you Tuli!!!
K9 is trash
k9 never got his full potential
I keep getting an “error subscribing to the channel” message
Trivia Question: Who had the first penalty for the Chargers in 2023? Yep! That would be #97 on the very first play of the season. He jumped off sides but nothing new. Come on man. Bosa gave up the edge far too many times over the last several years. He would use his inside spin move with nobody else on the outside giving help with the QB taking off around the corner.
He did just have that surgery didn't he. Probably stiff Coach Herbert will fix that.
Mack is a STUD ... Bosa is a BUM !!! Any chance of trading Bosa on draft day ???
The Chargers defense has been bottom 5 garbage the past three years and the offense has been top 5. Yet they stupidly clean house on the offensive side and keep the trash defense. Harbaugh is supposed to be so smart but that was just dumb, Im sorry. Should have been the other way around.
Joey sucks! Khalil is better but even at times a little underwhelming. You have two of the best edge rushers in the game and the games they did play together haven’t felt like a scary dominant D-Line. You would think I’m having both of them that they would be making it hell for a QB from either side but can’t say that’s been the case. They’ve looked average together.
coaching and scheme matters
The chargers players hated!! Staley it’s clear
Nope
Bosa is elite ! Nick , that is !
You're a pos ass fan!
You're a trash ass fan. Mike just showed you WHY Joey is STILL ELITE! I'm glad we kept Bosa just so we can expose garbage fans like yourself!
I wish he would have traded joey but when bosa is healthy he is a brute force problem is he is hurt 90 percent of the time
PS5 Giveaway still happening?
Joey bosa has been a lost cause. Every training camp he isolates himself from the team and only works in individual drills until team periods come around. Cant trust him to be a team player since he only plays for the team when necessitated
always hurt, always on the ground, too expensive, gets gassed late in the 4th = way overrated
Joey & Khalil are too expensive. If we trade down from #5 for more 1st round picks , draft a pass rusher.
He is going to be traided to SF for some picks in the draff ….
first!!!!