Crystal Palace 4-0 Man United Player Ratings
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- Опубликовано: 5 май 2024
- Andy Mitten shares his player ratings for Crystal Palace 4-0 Man United in the Premier League at Selhurst Park. Erik ten Hag’s injury hit side go down to goals from Olise (2), Mateta and Mitchell.
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We got relegated we stuck by our managers I stand by Erik ten hag 12 months fix it
Thanks Andy. Fans 10/10 all night long!
Evans was apparently injured but agreed to play so I'd still give him 10 too!
I always hear more sense in ten minutes on here than pretty much all other United content together. I still think ETH is the right man for the job. The form after January, when we had many players back from injury, showed it was a completely different side, atmosphere, and quality of football. I think that ETH should be given the backing into next season with a full and healthy squad, and if things are no better by Christmas, then maybe he should go. Thanks for the content, Andy.👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
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If you back ten hag and its still abysmal then you have wrote off another season by december! I dont think ineos will do that erik is a goner 😅
I'm actually also willing to just give ten Hag more time. Let's just see how bad it can get, and let the players know there won't be another change in manager. Stability would be nice, even if it's bad.
@@Larvemannenz001 Maybe if they know the manager won't change, they might actually get their finger out
The problem is, all us United fans are willing to give him more time but the problem is, we’re coming at it from wanting to show some patience but deep down we all know our eyes don’t lie. This is utter garbage at the moment.
If you’re going into the city game, you’re saying play a back five for the remaining league games to try and park the bus and score on the counter. We’re being outplayed by palace with four at the back, we’ll get dicked by city playing the same game strategy so is ETH willing to adapt his strategy and shift it for a few games 🤷🏻♂️
Love how quick your face lit up and smiled talking about the early 90’s and the cup winners’ cup. The joy and memories from great United days will always outweigh the pain of these last 11 years.
Hahaha. You used to wind Liverpool fans up about this 🤣
At the game amazing night, still got the fishing gear, and the parade came through Eccles how mad.
True Reds, True Support, Sticking by the team, Singing to the end & determind to have a good time for all their efforts. Thats what The Red Army is Famous for. UNITED WE STAND! GGMU
I’ve never seen anything like Casemiro’s decline, and he’s only 32. It’s just bizarre some of the decisions he makes
32 but played more football than he ever had in a season last year. He should have been the rolls Royce player to tip us over the edge to win some trophies and mentor the younger players. Instead we played him into the ground and now we're barely even in contention for the conference league... why would he care, this isn't what we brought him in for. Playing CB against Palace with an ancient unfit Jonny Evans as his partner surely isnt the dream we sold him when he signed
He was carried to a large extent by Kroos and Modric and Spanish refs.
@@Ogma3bandcamp the refs for sure, look how many red cards he got last year and since then he's been half the player he was
@@koalaorange.Yeah fair enough but he played like he'd never even seen football before, never mind played it. Guy got dribbled past 8 times...
@@koalaorange. i get where you're coming from but there is no way in hell he thought that was the case when he joined. Last night was his 50th premier league game in two years that's hardly playing him into the ground. It's just not an excuse for the decisions he makes and what do you mean why would he care? he's a professional and is paid 300k a week, why would he care? is that a real question?
Glasner has restructured Palace in just a few weeks. Unreal that we're still a mess after 2 seasons.
Can't argue against that
This is what I don't understand. Ten hag has had 2 seasons, and we're not playing any style of football. Unless this is his style, and if that's the case, then he needs to be gone anyway.
Even under Ole, who supposedly had no tactics, we had more of a style of play than this, we were more structured than this, we were certainly a lot happier than this
He maybe has an advantage. The Palace squad is probably a lot more malleable and there seems to be good morale among them.
@@atverde ten hag has either bought or brought through over half of this squad, and the majority of the team last night. If he can't even mould his own players then what's he doing? Surely he can't need an entire 25 man squad of players he's bought in to perform. Managers come into bad dressing rooms and poor squads all the time and show improvement. Ten hag has made us worse
It is important to factor in that last year was not a mess. 1 year has been a mess. If we win FAC final we still had more silverware than Gunners will have. Ifs and but, but hey.
Soon to be 55 year old Red - not surprised, not surprised at all.
We supported the team like that in the early/mid 70’s
We did indeed my friend, & still have the scars & charge sheets to prove it 😂 👌 RED Army!
And me mate
@@SpireUtd and me
Im amazed anyone thought they wouldn't get a hiding tonight. No effort, no shape no chance. The manger, coaches and players do the same thing over and over and expect a different outcome utter insanity.
Support were fantastic
Andy I'm 66 my first game 58 years ago. Enough is Enough both Team and manager
Me, too!
Those Reds made me incredibly proud to be a United supporter.
These players don’t deserve that kind of support.
I’m old enough to remember Don Rogers tearing us to shreds in December 1972. We lost 0-5 that night, Frank O’Farells last game😢
Me too. That’s all I was thinking at the start of the 2nd half when I was convinced the 5-0 was going to happen again (or worse!)
10 years of poor recruitment. Placing trust in players like Shaw Martial and Awb. We deserve this. Need to sell these players.
You know Shaw and Martial weren’t on the pitch last night don’t you??!
Get a grip! It’s the manager!
@@Draper99we know that he’s talking about the players in general most of them are not United players they’re mid table team players
@@ArtVandelay00 I agree. And the manager is a bottom 4 manager. Not even close to being the standard of a United player. Thankfully, INEOS are changing all of that
The owners, management and a number of players do not deserve that support. Supporters are being short changed again. Credit to Evans who despite failing a late fitness test played anyway.
To say this entire squad needs sold, seems reactionary, seems dramatic, seems casual, seems like a clueless take, but it’s absolutely true. I’ve been supporting United since 1993, my first memories of United was watching Bryan Robson finally lift the a league title, Eric Cantona, collar up, chest out, Incey, absolute machine in midfield, Sparky, warrior, tough, back to goal, trapping everything that was launched into him, real men, real characters. And no matter how much time passes, no matter the era, the base ingredients for a recipe to success never changes, you need all those prerequisite qualities. The qualities that don’t cost a penny, that are just embedded with the fabric of a person. United don’t know how to identify proper characters anymore. Recruitment is based on cold hard no-context stats, you can buy a player these days without even looking at them, it’s just numbers on a bit of paper.
Aside from Lisandro, Mainoo, maybe Garnacho & Hojlund, none of this squad should be here next season. And yes, i include Rashford & Bruno in that, they should be first out the door. Their personalities & character alone, represents everything that is wrong with Man Utd. We’ve just bought bad after bad over the last ten years and now we can’t see a top player through the fog, mediocrity has become the norm, we’ve been kidded into thinking Bruno is the second coming of Cantona. Pfft 🤦♂️
That 3 - 0 away at Palace in 1991 was the game before the Cup Winners Cup final against Barca if I remember correctly. The final was on the following Wednesday so they rested half the team. I went with my Grandad. I think it was also Kanchelskis debut?
Andy didn’t have the heart to give the ratings as numbers…😢 that’s how bad it was
Well, the only positive is, no one can be fooled by how much work needs to be done. It will take years to undo the damage of the last decade of incompetence.
Unfortunately some expect a quick fix with ineos they definitely cut that time in half
How many more managers is this team going to push under the buswfor people to get that this isnt on the manager. This is on the lightweight players!
We are the slowest team in the league. We should be renamed
“no pace United “
Well put.
Spot on again Andy
It's good to see the youth given a chance. However my fear for the young fellas is that the general malaise around the 1st team will sap whatever confidence they have and they may be better off going to another club
Great honest fan channel, that’s the only good thing that’s come out of the result
Every word Andy 🙏
I don’t think changing the manager is the answer, the players endure. A new manager then has another manager’s signings to deal with, on top of Ole, Jose players. But it’s a results business, and it’s very hard to come back from one like that. I’ll be there on Sunday, but I can’t say I’m looking forward to it.
I know in the grand scheme of things it doesn’t matter. But two weeks before 1990 final, Forest did us 4-0. Imagine we’d gotten shot of Fergie on the back of that?
All I do know is that if he does go, a dozen of those lads must go as well.
Cheers Andy. UTFR
The magical history of the club just has that unbreakable bond we have with it no matter how bad it gets. I just fear it will get much worse before it can break away and reset to kickstart this club to rise again.But there is a lot more pain to endure and because it means so much to us,we will still support the institution and soul of the club,not the players or the owners but the heart of our club. UTID.
Its such a tough watch but I just dont feel the manager has had a proper first team for a sustained period. I still say give him next season cos no manager can sort this shit out without a reset. Cup final could be embarrassing
Give him one more season?? What for?? Are you hoping for relegation?
@@Draper99ain't getting naglesman alonso Zidane
@@degeautdfanfirst We’re not getting Fergie, Shankley, Busby or Arrigo Sacchi either… what’s your point?
united are 5th in the table on goals conceded. bad as the defense is it is the lack of goals scored that is the big issue.
Of course United are shite at the moment, but I thought the ref and VAR were terrible.
There was the disallowed goal of course.
And Andersen also went through the back of Dalot for one of the Palace goals, just swept the legs from under him.
And Casemiro was shoved off the pitch for another, and it wasn't shoulder-to-shoulder but a physical push.
And there was also the foul on Hojlund when he was through on goal.
It seemed like Palace were able to get away with whatever fouls they wanted, and the ref and VAR didn't do anything about it, perhaps because the United players didn't even complain.
When this manager and most of the team have moved on. And we dont need to keep 10h to get a clearout of all the players, that is tripe, before someone comments to the contrary! Sporting director will know exactly who to shift, regardless of what any new manager requests.
You look depressed Andy. Believe me it's all of us. Sadness is now turning into disbelief.
But we all know... & every other club know ... United will be back!
I expected it with a result like this one. The players are showing there worth.
Credit to your profession
Injury crisis is horrible. But it was also horrible under OGS - mostly soft tissue injuries. And yet ETH still has the same fitness coach as under OGS. WTF.
Where are the player ratings?
Please take the youngsters out of this team, before they catch the disease! Let them back in when the overhaul of team and organisation is completed.
Love your honest take on the whole thing. Don't even want to think about what's going on in Goldbridge's channel.
I think they love it deep down. It draws all the toxic fans together for a toxic groupthink session.
Backing his manager
Bring back Ole's cos he's the best Manager since SAF & his time were the best times, all he needs is a new Management team, (Ole & his 3 wise men) who can look after him & our interests cos he definitely wouldn't roll over against Man City like EtH did over 2 months ago, don't forget Ole has unfinished business to attend too.
SAF way & Ole way is the Man Utd way. Only the 5min fans (anyone under 30) & FlipFlop fans wouldn't want him!
Keep it in the family.
I completely forgot about the game and saw the score only after I received a message in the WhatsApp group, just laughed. Can’t make this up anymore!
I’d rather not be in Europe than play in the Conference League.
Think we should play the youth in all of our remaining league matches, rest the first XI (what’s left of it) for the Cup Final and go out all guns blazing !
Agree mate
What else was ETH supposed to do last night??? Look who we had in centre defence. AwB looks done too, Erickson is finished too. Manioo and Garnacho are still very young. Anthony was terrible too. It was Mount's 1st game in ages too. Still rusty and not match fit.
Pep or Klopp wouldn't get anything out of those players
They'd set a team up differently not to concede
Playing with back 3 for a start?
@@harukrentz435need be cb for that
Personally, I hope we dont qualify for any european football at all. I'd sooner see us have time to work with a highly refreshed squad (many outgoings needed) and promote the youth where we can. Dont want any more galactico signings as it very rarely (if ever) works. Lets get a squad together who are fit, commited and of the quality we deserve for our great club.
Snap, I didn’t think Antony was on the pitch
As with Hoiland no service = invisible
Manchester United need to change the players diet to get the best performance. I have a solution...
the End of Erik. Time to say goodbye.
Easy Andy :-
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Amrabat 6 for at least trying!
To talk about Hojlund shove D. Henderson, I think it another VAR team shiit thing. D.Degea was shoved the same way numerous occassions but commentary said D.DeGea needs to be stronger and blame him for the goal. But this one.......the GK is protected. VAR team, well done again.
Our goal difference could be minus 15 by the end of the season. Minus 20 if you include the FAcup
Sadly, I wasn't surprised either, however I still would not advocate changing manager.
A good dancer leaves the dance floor before his/ her legs give in, Casemiro, since the Wolves VAR Onana drama Casemiro has been kicking fresh air, he must miss Fred doing his running, we have injuries yes but didn’t we lose 7-0 to Liverpool with a strong squad? So what’s the excuse?
Some players don’t deserve to be at Manchester United, I agree, but the manager did sign some of the worst players we are seeing, no tactics vs palace even to screen the old timers with Amrabat, with Mount and Kobbie with instructions to park the bus and counter attack like we did vs Liverpool in the FA Cup game, it’s a tricky situation for the gaffer. But at the end of the day lazy players or whatever they are the manager selects the players and sadly gets sacked for poor results.
I called 8th place at the start of the season. Aside from injuries i saw this coming. Im fortunate enough to have lived the entire SAF reign & the club is in a shambolic state now.
Pre ETH i felt we didnt yet hit rock bottom & right now i think we'll sink further. Maybe not lower than 8th next season but i still dont see a top 4 finish on the horizon for at least 2 seasons & i almost fear the cricket scores vs.. Arsenal & City in the cup final.
On the issue of Casemiro, i wont criticise him...he has professionalism more than most players at Utd but his body & mind has given up for this level. HOWEVER much like Schweinsteiger & Varane these are players we should have signed in their prime 8-10 years ago.
Its still all goes back to the way the club was allowed to collapse with Woodward after Gill & SAF. Player power is still rife & ETH has lost any control he thought he had.
I am conflicted about ETH because part of me believes if he had a stable structure, 90% of a better squad & quality depth & 100% professionalism from the players then i believe he could implement his ideas....the problem is we have a bunch of misfits, injury plagued, brand led individuals. Almost every player has no idea what the word team means.
ETH, however has made critical mistakes, game awareness, lack of adaptability, inviting incessant pressure on our feeble makeshift defence & many of his signings...Onana, Mount & Anthony particularly poor as well persisting with underperforming players.
ETH could always have given Amad a run or tried an academy player earlier in the season - if anything we may still have lost games but he could have shown a strength that he would not favour certain ppl - unfortunately he never did this & his misplaced trust has blown up in his face spectacularly.
I wont beat with a stick ETH for signing Casemiro...that is solely on the club's mismanagement & desperation to push 70m on a player 2 weeks into the start of last season when they failed to sign Timber & FDJ in June & July that year. We only got Martinez once it was established Timber was going to accept Arsenal.
Martinez has shown quality but one crucial player out of 25 with only youngsters Garnacho, Mainoo & a developmental Hojlund is simply not good enough for Utd.
We have no control over what Ineos say or do....but so far im not convinced by their start....ok we have Wilcox, Berrada & possibly Ashworth...but the process for settling all 3 is still in progress. Changes have been made to Scouting & finance but critically at what point are they going to start gutting this squad & why is no one talking about the seeming lack of medical intelligence & lack of quality coaching staff??? Ok we are restricted by funding (mostly a legacy driven failure), but it will not be good enough if they simply pin this all on ETH.
If they remove ETH so be it BUT it MUST also include being ruthless to gut this shambles of a a team.
We shall see how quickly they want to move from 1st June. If our business is not well underway by mid july - we are facing the Glazers 2.0 & a horrific period thereafter.
You talk about crowds as if this is some sort of hardship. Fact is no real hardship since the early 70s and that was only 5 years after winning the EC!
We want to be challenging for the league & Europa league next season not delay tactics like Tuchel or Southgate or Potter or DeZerbi or mismanaging EtH cos we'll be better off with Ole or Outsider like Zidane than EtH cos EtH lacks people skills meaning wrong type of manager to take charge of our club.
The best advice we're prepare to offer is EtH & his team should pack their bags & go back to Ajax or Bayern to reinvent himself!
Keep it in the family!
Surely when you are down so many first team players you keep it tight at the back and play defensive football ( I know it's not the UTD way but needs must and all that ) and then try to get something on the break . They were so open last night it was obvious they were going to concede . I know the points were needed but I would have preferred a 0-0 draw to 4-0 .
Maybe ten hag wants the sack now let someone else fix the 10 year car crash
That was a bitter pill to swallow, surely we can’t go much lower than that? Props to palace, they swept us away
We thought Moyes was the lowest point, we thought Rangnick was the lowest point 😂
Glazers finally brought their reality and the haters focus on the manager and not overpaid lazy players.. “I’m not saying Injuries is an excuse” playing to the haters.. a team wins not individual awful players that don’t care and are NOT reflective of what Manchester United was.. ‘injuries are not an excuse” tripe
Taking our medicine one day at a time! On to the next one. The new structure is not going to let us look like this come August. Dont believe in any meaningful change before summer. Long way to August, but I need a summer break now.
Honestly we all expected it!! ,SHAMELESS.
It's embarrasing now. From having no defensive discipline or shape in midfield to the persistence with inverted wingers I am now at the point where Erik needs to go. These coaches clearly have brain fog.
I know United were awful but that interview your talk left me so depressed. Not once was it mentioned to sack the players not the manager the players don’t give a f..k and that mindset has to change before we keep bringing different managers in . Please look at the players there shocking
Things look terrible, but we have to back the manager. Chopping and changing every two seasons just keeps setting us back. When Ten Hag got the job, we knew it would take a while to get things right, and there would be some painful moments. This is where we are, and we have to trust the process. Look at Arsenal. There were times when it didn't look like Mikel Arteta knew what he was doing, and Arsenal were going from one gutless performance to the next. Arsenal stuck with him, and look where they are now. Ten Hag needs to be supported. Forget the outside noise. Let's just keep backing the club and keep believing that it will all pay off in the long run.
We also need to remember injuries haven't helped. And yesterday, we were without the one player we cannot afford to miss. And Mason needs time to settle in. He's missed much of the season through injury, so there's that. And Garnacho and Mainoo are kids.
At this point, I'd say take Garnacho and Mainoo out of the squad completely because you don't want them to be affected by what is going on.
But yeah, we just have to keep believing.
The club has been a mess - that's set us back. But so has having the wrong manager. Mourinho was the only one who looked like he had some control of our success.
@@jbri1 Mourinho was a good manager. My problem with him was the way he dealt with his players publicly. There was no need to go to the press to say "Luke Shaw isn't professional enough." That could have been sorted out privately. Maybe things would have been different if the Glazers backed him and signed the players he wanted. We'll never know.
There have been situations Ten Hag could have dealt better with. Sancho, for one.
We were spoilt under Fergie. He knew how to deal with individual players. Ronaldo needed an arm around the shoulder, while yelling at Rooney got the best out of him.
Pity the season doesn't end now.Arsenal,Newcastle ,Brighton then that lot in the cup final,bloody Hell.-13 defeats a minus goal difference, dreadful football all season, No pattern,no organisation.What is happening on the training pitch.Bloody shambles.
If Jonny Evans can't get a Ten - we were bad. INEOS owe us some parenting, appreciate that there will be more professional silence, BuT we are the club's family. The Fans deserve better. 🔴❤️.
Casemrio was a great player got no legs/ Erikson was a great player got no legs
I expect that we will lose all of the games in the rest of this season, including the FA Cup final.
United will win the Cup Final, football , funny game 😂
Most Utd fans, me included, have accepted how low this club has dipped. The football has been rubbish for so long, we've forgotten about when we were good under Fergie. At some point, you would think the club has had enough of this mediocrity and do something about it. The sleeping giant was woken by Sir Alex. I'm hoping another Knight of the Realm, Sir Jim can give us the antidote for this coma we've slipped into.
Sorry Eric but you’ve lost me son I don’t believe in you, your team, no style of play you’ve had every opportunity but you blew it, Casemiro, mount, Erikson your joking please shut the door on the way out
So you want to sack a manager after less than 12 months
Because he was good enough last season
So what your saying is only give the a manager 9 months now
How is anything going to get better
@stuartwilson1190 some of these fans just want new toys all the time. They’d rather sack a top manager than sell players who keep getting managers sacked cause they’re simply not good enough.
@@brady_k_official I agree but over half of those players the other day were his buys and can you tell me what style of play we use or is it kick and rush or hoof and run that’s what it bloody looks like to me Brady
@@brady_k_official there are 12 players contracts due to expire in the next 12 months so that should be a good thing
@@MonktonJohn you do get that half of ten hags first team was out the other night
Too many people overrate our players ability
Yeah,as soon as a youth player comes through they’re going to be a superstar! .
We've destroyed Hojlund already!
Erikson and cassamiro should never play for united again
Trouble is Andy there’s no genuine love for the club…fans excepted…
You ask why do we invest so much into a group of people we don’t know but I think it’s fair to say that we do know them at this stage. Charlatans and mercenaries. Highest wage bill in the league and lucky to be 8th.
That many injuries can’t just be bad luck. It needs proper investigation analysis. A lot of the injuries are happening in training why is that? Worryingly a young u21 side ended their season being crushed 6-2 by the gooners. Playing a similar style to the first team. Allowing the opponents to rain in shots on goal. Why is ETH setting up his team so badly. Why not just play low block and counter till we get back on our feet. Even Pulis can do that. Organising a low block is not difficult but it takes a bit of hard work that’s all. ETH looks a bit lost at this point.
Does EtH have a future at our Club?
Ans. No, Bayern Munich would be the sort of Club that suits EtH not Ole!
EtH has to earn the right to be our Manager cos right now he's been messing Up due to his lack of adapting, limited approach to the job & his undermining of the youth policy, so there's room for improvement!
If Eric Ten Hag gets the PUSH cos he's a Man City fan, helping the opposition & sabotage what he has built at our Club then bring back Ole Gunnar Solskjear with his new Management team (Ole & his 3 Wise Men)!
Keep it in the family!
You can sack ETH. But you cannot keep Rashford, Maguire, Erikson, Casemiro, Antony, Martial and Varane. People compare ETH to arteta. Arteta bought good young players with Jorginho the only exception. Arteta also got rid of old players on big contracts (Aubameyang, Lacazette, Ozil etc). Ragnick was right. We need an "open heart surgery". And that starts with getting rid of players who are simply not worth the cost. The market never lies. United fans/pundits can claim that Rashford is as good as Mbappe on his day. However, no elite club made a bid for him in the past and there's a reason for that.
Man United aren't ruthless enough. We're always way too patient with the players and manager. 'If we'd sacked Fergie blah blah.'
Fergie was incredibly ruthless himself - maybe we should learn from him rather than learning from his old bosses.
We were ruthless sack lvg day of a Cup Final win
This was absolutely horrific once again a fan forty years have been to old Trafford loads of times and Wembley once for the league cup final against villa which we lost this team is the worst l have ever seen robbing a liveing they are major clearout lncomeing big time there has to be ffs 😮
I hope they didn't play well because they know alot of them are going
I'm glad i slept through the late kickoff
This just shows we have overpaid championship players
ETH could have done more but he sticks to the players who clearly havent shown up most season
Amad doesn't get game time, the youngsters need to get a game if a position is available and he still starts ericson, casemiro, just park the bus and be done with it,
Seriously not looking forward to that cup final
This is worse than under rangnick when the players gave up. But these players havent given up on ten hag. This is the best they can do. Obviously inuries count, but this has been happening all season.
Andy. Can I just inform you that we virtually had a full team/ squad for our first six games of which we lost four and we were lucky to win the two we did win against Wolves and Forest!
This manager just ain’t it pal and needs jettisoning!
You can blame injuries, you can blame the protracted takeover, you can blame the players, you can even blame the unsettled squad issues of the season but you have to also blame Ten Hag too and heavily.
The tactics have been so poor ALL season, yes we have been depleted but we should still see patterns of Ten Hags play. You still see Newcastle play Howes football, even with their injuries. There is an excuse mentality risen into the club, instead of actually admitting that Ten Hag has failed. My fear is he keeps his job, believing that this football can be taken into next season, because if it is, it will be a long long road.
Long road Eirther way style how about Win matches first all people did was complain about lvg style so bit rich talking about style now
Obviously Ten Hag is toast - McLaren can be interim for the last few games - it cannot be any worse.
600m in debt is pretty bad
Erik ten hag next season sort it out or ineos will replace you with their choice if Southgate then so be it.
Nearly over!!! This season sucked!!! Glory Glory Man United!!! Away Reds Ruled the stands!!!! Cheers
We got relegated we stuck by our managers
This is the worst keeper I've ever seen at United nevermind the rest of them.
Tahibi
Bayern please take ten hag. No organisation, no plan , no clue. Take Antony with you.
Ten Hag isnt some up and coming coach learning his trade and developing his playstyle. This is all he is, this is all he can offer, and it's a simple not good enough.
Maybe with a good well run club around him where all he has to do is coach, then maybe he would be fine. But he came into the United job knowing it was more than that and it looks like he isnt up to it. We gave him more control than hes had before and clearly its not something he can handle.
We are worse now than when he took over, simple as that. And when a manager is making us worse he has to go
I was amazed at MYSELF when the 1st then 2nd goal went in: no flinch, surprise whatsoever and really did not care that much. Perhaps like many, the fate of this season & of this team has been accepted, without any conscious thought process. Maybe even by the players; after they came out so early for the 2nd half, even they could barely lift themselves, though the neglected Amrabat seemed determined to save some reputation on his own, but they were collectively in a different dimension, or as if they had been told before coming out how terrible they were and are all out of a job soon, no matter what...Massively demotivated. Insipid.
ETH must surely know now that if there is similar in the last few games, including/despite? the Cup Final performance, he cannot be really trusted now. But the idea of his leaving after only 2 seasons, which have had 3 Cup Finals is...well, UTD post-Ferguson. When will this period end?!
That the fans were so spiritedly loud and consistent, despite observing that awful fare, reminded of the crazed support after Denis Law's notorious backheel. (The moment that finally confirmed my commitment as a small boy). Discount the immediate... Fans already looking beyond and up ahead for the fightback in the distance, that cant yet be seen.
No Dennis Law, but a Haaland - and the rest - to push the final nail in?
Dunno how this manager can keep his job. The horrendous stats, performances and negative records broken across this season... a potential worst ever Prem finish... disgusting UCL campaign... absurd tactical naivety and stubbornness. He has to be sacked. Too many red flags. I just don't trust him at all moving forward
I've stuck by him but the last few games have tipped me over the edge, injuries I understand, but tactically clueless, should pick a team to shut up shop, and his signings are dreadful, Antony one of the worst in MUFC history.
Just because it wasn't Premier League yet, doesn't mean the history doesn't exist. Sir Alex finished 11th, 2nd, 11th, 13th, 6th and 2nd in his first 6 seasons. 11th _twice_ and 13th... If that was now, MU's social media fanbase would be frothing from the mouth. Fans _then_ wanted rid of him. But he kept his job. 7th season? 1st place. Building up a winning team, and a winning club, takes years, and progress isn't linear.
@@dan-united9506 you're right, building a winning team and club takes years. Ten Hag just isn't the guy to do it. Period
@@dan-united9506 🤔 A Voice of Reason ... amongst the baying dogs!
@@richyclubsport5155flip flopping again your a joke you
I realise this is a united channel, and it's to talk about united . But why can't you actually say that Palace were very good ? We've beaten Liverpool away , taken west ham apart .. comfortably beaten Newcastle , and now you as well .. All in a very short space of time . Sometimes ..it's not all about man utd you know ???
Correct 💯. Crystal Palace are well worth it. Good players & playing as a team. Always good to watch recently. Olise, Eze, Wharton ... would look well in United shirts 😊
@@SpireUtd You can have Roy hodgson if you like.. we don't need him anymore 😁
Because its a man utd channel
@@MrPlank0073 Try reading ..I acknowledged that in my first line .. I'm interested to know whether or not the man utd fans with a footballing brain , would actually realise you got beaten by a better team last night , rather than disregard that and blame everyone and everything but the players, for getting outplayed in every department .
On a united channel yes it is all about united have you not got a palace channel
Has Casemiro got one of those famous Brazilian passports.Is he really 42? Hopefully that is the last of those type of signings. This has to be the bottom. Can it get worse than this?
I bet 100% that you and all the haters would have hounded SAF out of the club all those years ago.. Downright disgrace of people only looking for immediate gratification and putting blame on the soft target when they don’t get it.. I bet none were never in the streets trying to get the Glazers out, Woodward Out because thats hard work.. These players are trash taking huge wages to disrespect primarily the fans and the memories of all before the curse of Glazers and traitor woodward.. can’t wait to see what INEOS will do and this lot of haters and media next year when the club really is relegated without ETH..
I've been of this opinion all year and even got it right with the reason ten hag continues to leave the gap in midfield and thought it made sense but it is pure madness to just throw away any semblance of competitiveness so the structure is the same when players that just aren't coming back from injury come back. He's done nothing to help himself, the team or the fans this season man.
Hey 👋 fergie leave mark huges alone !!!
He has to go. There's no way another manager couldn't set them up to be more solid. It's pure negligence at this point from ETH. With a makeshift defence, why is he setting the CM up with no protection for the defence?
Is it bad to have shrugged last night off already? It feels worse than Ole’s Watford moment to point where my mind is at sea. I have no thought structure around the 1st team atm. I have nothing. They are just a gaggle of shite assembled by different managers with differing ideas facilitated by an almost anonymous family of far-off trolls.
The only graces we have are the younger players.
Win lose draw people wanna talk about United. Shame I don’t anymore 😢😂
This is the result of years and years of under investment and poor ownership promoting the wrong people.
We have reached the stage where we barely have a squad to compete in one competition let alone two or three.
Why all the injuries. Because the manager has to keep playing them even if they are tired a carrying a knock. He doesn't have anyone to replace them.
We look at City and their bench is better than our first team. That says it all.
Yet again the blame is being put on the manager, we have been here so many times. It isn't the manager, it is the disgusting management of our club that has wasted money and failed to have a proper structure.
Look at all the big names Sir Jim is trying to bring into the club to manage it properly. Why didn't we already have these people instead of a banker running everything?
There is a reason Bayern want Erik, he is a top manager but he has nothing to manage at Old Trafford. The previous management failed to get the players he asked for. We are now struggling with FFP, seriously, one of the richest clubs in the world can't buy players? Where did all the money go?
Money went on crap like Antony
@@richyclubsport5155 I was really talking about the last twenty years but yes, money was wasted on Anthony.
Erik asked the management to buy him when he was 30 million but they umed and ared until transfer day and then got their pants pulled down.
Casemiro wasn't first choice. Erik wanted Franke de Jong. What a difference that would have made.
@@harveysmith100 he didn't want MUFC
50 mill on awb blokes got no right or left foot.signing Mount and Anthony should get you sacked instantly.
@@richyclubsport5155 He was open to the offer but Barce owed him 17mil and he may not have got it had he left