Mega Man's been bad because nobody knows how to use him and his kill options are limited but if you master the kill and just pile on the damage he can wreck shit.
Great set and play by Kamemushi, but what bothers me is how many people are claiming ZeRo got bodied...no...he lost and each game was relatively close. Good games to both players.
Agreed. I think that had it been the other way around with ZeRo getting the 3-0 under the same circumstances (close games), most people would still be hyping up Kamemushi for keeping up. But people just want to see champions fall.
Agreed, Zero played well, just got edged out by a really, really good Mega Man. I think the MU was a part of it too, MM just has really good zoning options while Diddy is forced to go in for most of his attacks through a hailstorm of lemons.
Smash 4 had the exact same spot on the schedule as last EVO's and it didn't have customs on this time, and because of that it had a lot more international players than before, and yet it had less viewership than at last EVO.
Mega Man: Screw you high tiers! But seriously, I'm crying tears of joy right now, being a Mega Main after all. The GF made me happier because Mario and Mega Man are my mains.
ZeRo really needs to bring back the Sheik. It's a good character to cover for match ups that he can't win with Diddy. I feel as though Cloud as his back up isn't working too well for him. More importantly, he needs to be more confident in his characters. Thankfully this tournament brought the real ZeRo back. Kamemushi still a beast though.
BlackDeathBlade sheik been in the game to long and has a hard time setting up ko's like needles to bouncing fish diddy can easily set up a ko with bananas
I mean, yeah of course. But that still gives no reason why he would say that Mega Man is carrying players. He's never done anything like that before after losing to a character.
You guys are pathetic can't even give respect where it's due. Kameme is god like Mega man and he outplayed Zero fair and square. I mean at least give some respect to Kameme
+Mikizially said that just because he beat kamemushi doesnt mean he is better than them but japan still is the best because Ranai beat ally all the time.
Ally has lost over japan players: ranai , komorikiri, 9b, abadango and somejapanese that i dont emember so yeah plus he didnt encounter any japanese players in this tournament so that means CANDA
So Mega Man who defeated Zero 3-0 wasn't hype? Man where have you been? Ya he lost to Ally again but you gotta give Kamemushi credit for making it to grand finals with Mega Man.
Both players made great plays! Congrats to kamemuchi and ZeRo both! I don't think ZeRo list because he was playing bad. Personally I think it falls down to matchup experience. How many times has anyone ever fought against a legitimately good mega man player? Matchup experience means so much in this game and that is a difficult thing to do against certain characters. I myself played against a good mega man player, as Kirby I was getting wrecked not knowing how to approach this guy. However, after a few matches I realized I could duck underneath mega mans jabs. Instantly the match was a ton easier. Without having experience knowing how to deal with a matchup it is very likely that you will lose. Especially if the person your fighting knows how to play against you. Mad props to both players for making it an exciting match. ( and for dealing with all the crap at Evo)
there is nothing going on with him lol people just got better and people caught up to him. ZeRo played amazing in losers also beating Hyuga , Komo , KEN , Earth , Larry , Abadango and VoiD all without dropping a game
I wanted him to win, too. ZeRo is actually the person who was or is planning on bringing more Japanese players to the tournaments in America. ZeRo most likely contributed to Kamemushi's arrival. Generally, Japanese players rarely travel overseas to compete, even when it comes to EVO.
+FryMario55 Of course ZeRo is gonna be #1 of all time,his streak was one of the nuttiest things in esports it's ridiculous how better he was than everyone else. But that's all in the past now,right now in this current version of the game,Ally is arguably the best player. Won EVO,biggest smash 4 tournament to date. Won GOML,one of the most stacked and ridiculous tournaments in smash history and smash and splash which isnt a big achievement but it cemented his dominance against ZeRo. CEO was a fluke ignore it okay it didn't happen.
Falling behind? 3rd is really good. Think about all the great names that were there posing a threat. He 2-0d VoiD, Larry Lurr, and beat some others that I can't remember, and out-placed almost everyone there (mr.r, Anti void, larry, ranai, Dabuz, Nairo, etc.). So I think you mean he's no longer AS dominant as he used to be.
clever name Well considering he failed to place first like usual, and got absolutely destroyed by that one palatana player (or whatever her name is) I'd say so. He hasn't even managed to place first in smaller local tournaments recently either.
You just ignored my points and what I said. He's still the most relevant smash 4 player. And if they played again, do you really think the Palutena player would win again? No, he probably wouldn't.
clever name I'm not saying he couldnt wreck everyone with a bit of practice, that whole middle finger injury set everything back, but since he hasn't practiced a ton recently he hasn't been on top. Which still means he's fallen behind, but he still can and likely will catch up again if he dedicates enough time.
Zero is so bad the only reason he won like 60 tournaments in a row is because Diddy was broken then when he got nerfed he switched to the other high tier Shiek. He's not good he just is a tier who're
I love when people say shit like this because it shows that they have literally no understanding of how tier lists work. You'd have to think they just materialize out of thin air when the game is released for this logic to make any fucking sense at all. The current tier list A) has existed for way less time than ZeRo has spent dominating this game and B) is already out of date because of patches and DLC. Diddy Kong and Sheik are top-tier characters _because ZeRo got amazingly consistent results with them,_ not the other way around. Also Diddy is easily still a top-5 character, even if patches nerfed the shit out of him.
Funny how even after the nerfs he was still winning tournaments with Diddy (he never switched from him to begin with), but hey, you are an extremely ignorant person given that you refuse to acknowledge ZeRo's skill and only assumes he only wins because he plays only the Top-Tiers.
Mega Man is fighting for his franchise right now.
Inb4 megaman(insert EVO shape here)
lmfaoooooooo!!!
lol
bruh, lmaoooooo
That fight was well won, with Mega Man 11 coming in at 2018.
This is why Mega Man is better than Zero. Remember it folks.
lmao
Lol
Lololololol
Haha yup, better bewbs too.
LMAO
"so a lot of people have been wondering why mega man is top tier"
Lollin'
xD
i doubt it. hes extremely hard to master lol
Isaiah Hill he takes time and dedication, he's not hard to learn
Black MK The reason kameme did so well is cause of the footstool stuff. Footstooling grounded opponents mid match is really hard lmao
This is the best advertising Capcom could have gotten from EVO.
Bring back Mega Man!
I guess street fighter on ESPN doesn't count then
olixleon Nah, people who watch ESPN don't play video games.
I kid.
Bring back Megaman
It's called Mighty Number Scam- I mean 9.
4:07 Was just incredible.
7:20
with about 100% rage, that would've killed. But I'm wondering, wouldn't a charged down smash do it?
Hello, MH fella.
すごいよね
I think this might be one of the most important sets in smash 4's entire existence
Remember when ZeRo ranked Mega Man lower than Dedede on an old tier list?
This is sweet, sweet karma.
not really I mean no one really knew how to fight mega man imo
I mean, Dedede is the best character in the game, everyone is ranked lower than Dedede
truth
zero even called himself out on that one hahaha
just because one player is really good with a character doesn't really make the character any better.
"So a lot of people have been wondering why I think Mega Man needs to be nerfed"
mega man not realy been good
Mega Man's been bad because nobody knows how to use him and his kill options are limited but if you master the kill and just pile on the damage he can wreck shit.
Johnny Clocks
i know he good but ther iother chaters are way better and i never seen anyone play this good but me
ally knew, thats why he beat kame
And people said Kamemushi was overrated
Who? Lol
+EJJTheMiner I think he just meant how people have been overrating Japan in general
oh okay
It's weird how Japan is overrated and underrated at the same time
the wrong people are rated
It's not possible for this to have zero dislikes if Zero dislikes.
Lol did ZeRo really dislike this video???
+HeirofBlood124 probably
Auraburst lol Z can't take an L
music plays
Great set and play by Kamemushi, but what bothers me is how many people are claiming ZeRo got bodied...no...he lost and each game was relatively close. Good games to both players.
also gotta recall how bad Zero is with matchups he's unfamiliar with. hes not bad but they throw him off a lot
Agreed. I think that had it been the other way around with ZeRo getting the 3-0 under the same circumstances (close games), most people would still be hyping up Kamemushi for keeping up. But people just want to see champions fall.
Agreed, Zero played well, just got edged out by a really, really good Mega Man. I think the MU was a part of it too, MM just has really good zoning options while Diddy is forced to go in for most of his attacks through a hailstorm of lemons.
Johnny Clocks Someone who gets it...You deserve your Ring
***** Gimme your ring
Remind me again why was Smash 4 Finals wasn't part on the final day of EVO?
I'm guessing because more people watch and prefer melee.
Because evo is an overrated biased piece of shit tournament
smash4 had more attendance. its because bias
attendance doesn't matter, all that matters is viewership.
Smash 4 had the exact same spot on the schedule as last EVO's and it didn't have customs on this time, and because of that it had a lot more international players than before, and yet it had less viewership than at last EVO.
The MegaMan chants at the end make me so happy to hear as a MegaMan main
7:21 Sick Mega Man setup combo!
Should of went Shulk against megaman
that sounds like a terrible idea
you kidding me that MU sucks for shulk
Shulk beats the pellets and can up tilt when megaman wants to approach him jumping
Shulk beats mega man 6/4
What's your NID...I'll show you how easily shulk beats mega man
Mega Man: Screw you high tiers!
But seriously, I'm crying tears of joy right now, being a Mega Main after all. The GF made me happier because Mario and Mega Man are my mains.
DID YOU SEE THAT SHEIK EDGE GUARD IN GAME TWO?! That is an edge guard!!
Why does everyone keep saying zero got destroyed? These matches look pretty close to me.
Indeed. It could've gone either way. Great set overall.
Not destroyed, he got outplayed.
he got 3-0d
winning won't bring your franchise back, Mega Man.
no, that's his creartors job
You thought!
Megaman 11
ZeRo really needs to bring back the Sheik. It's a good character to cover for match ups that he can't win with Diddy. I feel as though Cloud as his back up isn't working too well for him. More importantly, he needs to be more confident in his characters. Thankfully this tournament brought the real ZeRo back. Kamemushi still a beast though.
your right
BlackDeathBlade sheik been in the game to long and has a hard time setting up ko's like needles to bouncing fish diddy can easily set up a ko with bananas
First Mario, then Sonic, then Pac-Man, and now Mega man...
Sakurai is trying to make these four the best characters for there series!
MetalMario2628 Pac-man, good? Lul
Watch Zero make a video about how Mega Man is "carrying the players".
Why would he say that?
+Jarchafiend Because he got fucking destroyed by a Megaman.
I mean, yeah of course. But that still gives no reason why he would say that Mega Man is carrying players. He's never done anything like that before after losing to a character.
Diddy kong tweet he did back in the beginning of smash 4 lol
+zeldafan41 yeah, but Diddy was on in the beginning of smash 4
He's literally playing a Megaman Game shooting powershots and scrolling through Metal Blade and Crash Bomb. Nuts!!!
This really just popped up, algorithm strikes again
7:20 footstool combo u are welcome :)
EVEN NOW THERE IS HOPE FOR MAN
10:22 didnt know he threw metal blade with banana xD
I wish ZeRo knew the match-up. This was kinda sad to watch
LOL I feel you man
You guys are pathetic can't even give respect where it's due. Kameme is god like Mega man and he outplayed Zero fair and square. I mean at least give some respect to Kameme
where did this take place? i live in NYC and i could never find tourneys, i never knew ZeRo was in NY either. i cri
Dont underestimate the super fighting robot ever again!
The lemons are so good for shooting down those fairs and bairs Zero likes to throw out a lot. Really great knowledge from Kamemushi.
Holy shit that combo at 7:10 was disgusting.
Japan kicked ass
But Ally said "Canada > Japan" in grands
+Mikizially said that just because he beat kamemushi doesnt mean he is better than them but japan still is the best because Ranai beat ally all the time.
+Son Nguyen Yeah and Komo has beaten ally as well.
Ally has lost over japan players: ranai , komorikiri, 9b, abadango and somejapanese that i dont emember so yeah plus he didnt encounter any japanese players in this tournament so that means CANDA
weeb
Megaman! will start playing smash 4 again.
ZeRo just believes too much into his set ups his diddy isnt patient anymore and he pushed too hard
more like never play against Megamans and now theyre rippin pros like spoiled kids on christmas...
yeah its just mega man lol. seriously. next time zero plays Kame he will win....
+Taydrz +TrippyMayne He played against several mega mans... He also was in Japan doing friendlies and he knows the matchup
Free Rocks oh okay. thanks for the info!!!
He didn't play against Kameme in Japan. And during EVO he wanted to practice vs a Mega Manbut there was none.
That style up throw kill at the end tho.
ZeRo died a little inside that day.
Someone start a petition for Smash to be an Olympic sport
this set literally made me cry tears of joy
Amazing set.
I saw you play in the championship of 2017, also gained experience from brawl
WTF Diddy 12:08 ?? He throw away banana and blade at same moment?
So, Mega Man now shoots melons? 9:03
Kamemushi looks like Raphael the Ninja Turtle.
I wanted to see ally vs zero at evo and have zero take his revenge.
and people are saying that scatt is the best mega man
our boy kamemushi is
the minority of people say that, most people know kamemushi is the best MM even scatt said it himself.
I never said that everyone or many people are saying it.
Reference to #ZeRoOpininons (remember his best player of each character list )
do Kamemushi have a Unibrow?
esports rivalries are basically animes
ZeRo is going to reck him on the runback the way he got revenge on Larry Lurr.
I'm rooting for him lol
Can't you at least give some respect to Kameme?
MWA HAHAHAHA Take that ZeRo. Or rather NeGaTiVe OnE!
wow lol
boo
man,if you're gonna hate on zero(within itself makes nosense), at least be funny
12:30
12:08 wtf did I see that right?
These comments though XDD. also, ZeRo must be slipping. but damn, as a Megaman main, my hat goes off to you Kamemushi
Really wanted to see ally vs zero. All I knew was this megaman was going to lose again by ally lmao what a waste of hype.
So Mega Man who defeated Zero 3-0 wasn't hype? Man where have you been? Ya he lost to Ally again but you gotta give Kamemushi credit for making it to grand finals with Mega Man.
D1: OMG IT'S HAPPENING
what's happening to ZeRo? :(
The nerfs
He didn't know the match-up and lost
this would have been mire hype if it was zero vs ally grand finals....you know with the #team zero and #team ally thing
1 stock ended and i was staring Japanese eyes lol
scarflard dethroned
OMG 7:20
Did ZeRo get... 3-ZeRo'd? :D I REGRET NOTHING
M2k 3-0 him too
ZeRo was rights about his name, because this match was 0... to 3. *burn*
Both players made great plays! Congrats to kamemuchi and ZeRo both! I don't think ZeRo list because he was playing bad. Personally I think it falls down to matchup experience. How many times has anyone ever fought against a legitimately good mega man player? Matchup experience means so much in this game and that is a difficult thing to do against certain characters. I myself played against a good mega man player, as Kirby I was getting wrecked not knowing how to approach this guy. However, after a few matches I realized I could duck underneath mega mans jabs. Instantly the match was a ton easier. Without having experience knowing how to deal with a matchup it is very likely that you will lose. Especially if the person your fighting knows how to play against you. Mad props to both players for making it an exciting match. ( and for dealing with all the crap at Evo)
Wait who beat Kamemushi to put him into losers?
I think it ally
Allt
Ally
10:22
He won evo last year because that was pre patch Diddy where hoo haa killed at stupid percents
um actually...the diddy in this game is practically the same diddy from last EVO so....
+Exdee no it's fuckibg not down throw up air doesn't kill at 100%
The Diddy nerfs happened before EVO 2015 actually, so no, that wasn't even close to the reason why he won.
ZeRoに勝ったからロックマンが強キャラだとかそのプレイヤーがツヨイとか何でもZeRo基準になってるよね
And this ladies and misses, is why tier list are a waste of time.
Zero should have stayed Sheik. Megaman can easily cut down Diddy options and stagger his mobility
Mega man!!! Megaman!!!!! Megaman!!!!
I'm mad... lemon usage(97%)
zero man, whats going on???
there is nothing going on with him lol people just got better and people caught up to him. ZeRo played amazing in losers also beating Hyuga , Komo , KEN , Earth , Larry , Abadango and VoiD all without dropping a game
I have two characters Ike and Link
Am I weird for wanting ZeRo to win?
no
Nope
Cool.
I wanted him to win, too. ZeRo is actually the person who was or is planning on bringing more Japanese players to the tournaments in America. ZeRo most likely contributed to Kamemushi's arrival. Generally, Japanese players rarely travel overseas to compete, even when it comes to EVO.
you're fine.
Yooo and smash ultimate kameme 3-0 mkleo. He's kinda of a godslayer.
ZeRo what's happening to you😨😨😨
FD was a weird pick
Press 1 if you feel bad for ZeroBox
1
1 for me and 1 for my friend.
So... ZeRo still the best player right now ?
Well he still won more tournament than everyone so maybe
Ally is arguably #1 right now
+FryMario55 Of course ZeRo is gonna be #1 of all time,his streak was one of the nuttiest things in esports it's ridiculous how better he was than everyone else.
But that's all in the past now,right now in this current version of the game,Ally is arguably the best player.
Won EVO,biggest smash 4 tournament to date. Won GOML,one of the most stacked and ridiculous tournaments in smash history and smash and splash which isnt a big achievement but it cemented his dominance against ZeRo.
CEO was a fluke ignore it okay it didn't happen.
+FryMario55 If he keeps winning tournaments for the rest of the year,yes
1st zero, second ally
If zero stayed with shiek, maybe he could have lasted a bit longer. Good stuff to Kamemushi though.
Dang this Kamemushi guy is really good, and not just because he beat ZeRo. Anti is too, and a couple others. ZeRo has really fallen behind recently.
Falling behind? 3rd is really good. Think about all the great names that were there posing a threat. He 2-0d VoiD, Larry Lurr, and beat some others that I can't remember, and out-placed almost everyone there (mr.r, Anti void, larry, ranai, Dabuz, Nairo, etc.). So I think you mean he's no longer AS dominant as he used to be.
clever name Well considering he failed to place first like usual, and got absolutely destroyed by that one palatana player (or whatever her name is) I'd say so. He hasn't even managed to place first in smaller local tournaments recently either.
You just ignored my points and what I said. He's still the most relevant smash 4 player. And if they played again, do you really think the Palutena player would win again? No, he probably wouldn't.
clever name I'm not saying he couldnt wreck everyone with a bit of practice, that whole middle finger injury set everything back, but since he hasn't practiced a ton recently he hasn't been on top. Which still means he's fallen behind, but he still can and likely will catch up again if he dedicates enough time.
+AbomiYeti O
Wish Zero won this set. Zero vs Ally GF would have been way more hype. Good job to Kamemushi though
Superpokemaster e
ZERO DISRESPECT!!! But not like that!! Lol, Kamemushi, wow! This Man is Mega. Just sayin...
I feel bad for zero.
That was intense.
Dang, third zero tournament loss
I believe this is 6th or 7th tournament loss
Optimal rolls....
Kameme
Bring back Megaman!
this is satisfying
should went captain falcon
this and grand finals didn't even have 100k views? yeah smash 4 is gonna die soon
he is just destroying sheik players
ZeRo better main Zero if sakurai release him with Megaman
Which will never happen
boy, it would if zero fits his playstyle. he is a swordsman with a projectile
+M cloud?
''smash5
zero lose some weight bro
zero te pusieron en tu lugar
no sheik no glory
whats up with all these Megamans destroying pros lately!..
You say this like these megaman players aren't pros. Stop using characters to take away from the accomplishments of players.
+Demi Fiend nah, they're pros it's just where are they coming from? Outta the woodworks....
Taydrz They've been in the hyperbolic time chamber mastering the art of zoning. On master they came to conquer.
+Demi Fiend mastering the art of spamming
+TheNecromancer lawl.
What a killer!
Zero is so bad the only reason he won like 60 tournaments in a row is because Diddy was broken then when he got nerfed he switched to the other high tier Shiek. He's not good he just is a tier who're
Lol he won evo last year with the same diddy
I love when people say shit like this because it shows that they have literally no understanding of how tier lists work. You'd have to think they just materialize out of thin air when the game is released for this logic to make any fucking sense at all.
The current tier list A) has existed for way less time than ZeRo has spent dominating this game and B) is already out of date because of patches and DLC. Diddy Kong and Sheik are top-tier characters _because ZeRo got amazingly consistent results with them,_ not the other way around. Also Diddy is easily still a top-5 character, even if patches nerfed the shit out of him.
Funny how even after the nerfs he was still winning tournaments with Diddy (he never switched from him to begin with), but hey, you are an extremely ignorant person given that you refuse to acknowledge ZeRo's skill and only assumes he only wins because he plays only the Top-Tiers.