Great video. Used the 100 grain version in a 6.5 Grendel to take a deer, and I think this will be my go-to bullet for deer size game in this cartridge. What was weird, though, is I got an exit but massive trauma on a deer that weighed about 140lbs. Impact velocity was around 2150 fps.
The pass through is most likely because the bullet is getting close to the 2000 fps minimum impact velocity. Still high enough to dump energy and perform and enough bullet retained to exit. What was your shot placement? Did it contact ribs or any other bones?
Buddy hit a coyote with the 6mm 80 gr at 430 yards. Shot was a frontal shot and it split the coyote open along the belly and spine spilling the guts and chest cavity out of the belly rip.
@longrangehuntinggroup7223 so I was sitting up on a hill, shooting down, but it wasn't a severe angle. The buck was slightly quartering to me. I hit the bottom of the spine, and the bullet traveled about 8" before exiting near the liver. The ELD-VT blew out half of one lung, sent lead pieces in the other lung. If you are curious to the devastation it had at that impact velocity, I can email you the pictures. You can use them in your reviews or whatever help viewers since this bullet is requested so much.
Thanks me too it was driving me nuts having a backlog of videos to edit. Now I got the new computer setup I’m knocking them out. The next video I’m actually pretty excited about doing.
Thanks there was a delay with the computer. Our computer took a crap on us so I had to buy a new computer and get everything setup and transferred over to the new computer. It was pretty time consuming honestly. Now that I’m back up and running I’ll be putting out videos again on a regular basis. This is the second video posted in 4 days. Gotta say though the new computer is so much nicer for doing videos. I have a 34” 4K monitor and it’s a professional gaming computer so it’s ridiculously fast. I wish I had bought one years ago.
I got a case of these in 6 ARC. I have a 6 ARC bolt gun, but I'm waiting on my Bartlein 22'' barrel for a gas gun 6 ARC I'm building. The 80gr VT's will be used in that. I found your video informative.
Glad you like the video and found it helpful. If you ever have any questions please don’t hesitate to ask. Good luck this year hunting and happy hunting.
Good to see you back! The design of the bullet is interesting. Looking forward to seeing the results at some distance. Hopefully below Hornady's recommended velocity limits just for curiosity. Again glad to see you up and running ! Nice video. Keep'em coming!
Hey bud hope you’re doing well. Yeah unfortunately it’s been a while for the videos. Computer took a crap on me so I had to buy a new computer. Wife wasn’t very happy when I dropped a couple grand on a new computer setup but I’m happy. 😂 Wish we could post pictures here in the comments because it’s pretty cool. It’s really nice actually having a computer designed to do this type of stuff. Makes everything so much easier and faster. Yeah I’m curious to see how they perform at lower velocities. Honestly I do think they are accurate on the 2000 fps minimum impact velocity unfortunately.
Been there on the wife situation. 😅 I have to be careful now, I noticed a hole in the top of the doghouse. Hope you and your loved one's are all healthy and happy.
@@kentuckywindage222I got a good wife and she wasn’t mad that long 😂 I have been planning on upgrading for a while. Editing and doing 4K videos requires a lot more computer than people realize. I was able to do it on the old computer but it took forever. After I uploaded the videos into the editing program. It would have to optimize before I could edit it. It generally took 3-6 hours before I could even start editing. With the new computer it takes a few seconds so huge difference. The new one I got a 34” curved 4K monitor which is super nice for editing. The old computer had a 10” screen so everything was super small. The computer is a professional gaming computer. So it is super fast and has the ram etc that I need to do videos in 4K. It’s been really nice I have done 2 videos in 4 days so far. I have a backlog of videos to get through right now. The next video is going to be good so keep an eye out for it.
Interesting, I thought the bigger cavity would make it open more. Thanks for sharing this. I wonder which 6mm bullet would give best expansion performance at lower velocity down at 1600fps.
A cavity can aid in expansion the problem is that if it’s too big then it is counterproductive and causes problems. The Berger hybrids have a big cavity that aids in expansion. This cavity is much larger than the hybrids. The 109 Berger hybrids will expand down to 1600 fps. The 108 and 109 eld match bullets will expand down to 1400 fps. The 110 A tips will expand down to 1400 fps as well. Those are the 4 top 6mm bullets for terminal ballistics and external ballistics in the 6mm.
Been waitin on these…and your the man to check performance out on this stuff…ordered the 22x lht for my waypoint prc last night…question….50mm obj I got .97” matched rings….with the little measurements I took I hope I clear my rail at the end…factory one on the waypoint…have 1” cheap ones on a 40mm obj with some clearance so it’ll be close….good deals rn 15% off vortex..plus b days next wk so that gives a little discount too on midway…👊🏻can’t wait to blast some through my prc…hope I can get the 95gr…man there wicked with h4350…
High as 3666fps which we all know takes the barrel with it so I separately log all the rds over 3600 I’ve fired…50 so far…520ish on the gun all logged..
I've been using the 87 vmax for a few years it happened to be the most accurate bullet my cheap Ruger american shot. 39.5 grns of Varget right at 3200fps has been deadly for me. Think I will stick with it after watching this thanks for the info.
Glad you found the video helpful. I’ve heard those Ruger Americans are pretty accurate for how cheap they are. What kind of accuracy are you getting out of it with your 87 gr v max load?
I have the same rifle and it loves the 87 VMax too. Running 44.8 of H4350 going 3350 fps. Probably shoots roughly 3/4 moa and has taken a ton of coyotes. I’m working on a load for the new 80 ELD-VT with very poor results so far.
@@KMV-49 that’s no fun especially when it’s eating up your reloading components. I just picked up 200 of the 80 gr eld vt to load hopefully it is easier than what you’re dealing with. I don’t know if it will help but it is designed to be like the eld match. Eld match generally likes 20 thousandths off the lands for seating depth. The exception has been the 80 gr eld match in .224. Buddy has a 224 Valkyrie and it has to be exactly 19 thousandths or it’s like a shotgun blast. As long as it’s at 19 thousandths it will hold 1/4 moa. That’s the one eld match I’ve ever seen have an issue. So it’s possible that you could be experiencing the same issue with the eld vt and you just need to find the sweet spot for seating.
@@brandonhovda4290 I'm getting another box of bullets today and I'm going to start load development to see how fast we can push them. I'll keep you updated as we I go.
Try some 110v max .308 24” barrel imr4198. 38-42gr is where I can load em according to what speed I want…I slowed down 100yrd impact on milk jug and wow what energy at 3500…the roofbolts it was hung from flexed like noodles lol…fn spr
Today everybody gets these long rang rifles so they can shoot long ranges. But I see them neglecting their hunting skills doing this. Why put on a stalk, or even bother hunting, when one can just bushwhack bambi at 1200 yards? Theres no skill in that. No bragging rights around the campfire. Its time we go our seperate ways. Im looking for vids from the Ethical Hunting Group. Thanks for the vid.
@@doghousedon1 all you have ever done is just drop dumb comments. You are not here for videos or information. Your comments show that very clearly. You are just here to make uninformed statements about stuff you know nothing about and talk trash. This isn’t a train station no need to announce your departure. You are only making that statement to try and make it appear like you came here looking for something and didn’t find it. Instead of the truth which is you came here to troll. That shows especially on this video. This is a video on a new bullet and it was done at high velocity SHORT range. If you actually bothered to watch the video instead of just leaving comments you would know that.
@@doghousedon1 The definition of hunting “Hunting is the chasing and killing of wild animals by people or other animals, for food or as a sport.” Hunting is the chasing and killing of wild animals. That encompasses all types of hunting including long range hunting. Long range hunting as we know it today is not a new thing. A rifle built specifically for the taking of game at distance. Adjustable sights for windage and elevation. Long precision barrel, light trigger with little creep, and hand tailored rounds for accuracy at long range. Modern long range hunting has been around for 151 years. That’s long before the modern compound bow. The 1874 sharps long range rifle was specifically built for long range hunting. It was common for buffalo hunters to kill out to 1200 yards with them. Other companies rolled out their own versions like the rolling block. Long range hunting has been around ever since. It’s only been publicly known for the last decade or so because of the internet. It was still done before that but only the people doing it or people who knew them knew about it and wasn’t widely known. The vast majority of long range hunters hunt multiple methods including archery. That makes us better more rounded hunters who can do everything. That makes us far better hunters than the guys who only do one thing. Long range is just another tool in the toolbox. Just because you don’t do it doesn’t mean that it’s wrong or not hunting. People these days think that the world revolves around them and anything they don’t do is wrong and should be cancelled. Maybe you should act more like a sportsman instead of putting down other hunters. Long range hunting isn’t hurting hunting. People spreading misinformation about it because they don’t like it. So in reality you are the one who is actually harming hunting. Spreading lies because you don’t like something that you don’t even know about is ridiculous and childish. Land owners have literally nothing to do with these either. That’s a desperate attempt that doesn’t even make sense. If a land owner is allowing or leasing their property for hunting. They are the ones choosing who can hunt on their land. So it has no bearing whatsoever on long range hunting. Nobody in 151 years has lost hunting because of long range hunting. There was no negativity towards it either until recently. The guys who are spreading that negativity don’t even have a clue about it either. They just don’t like it so they lie about to make it look bad. You didn’t come here to learn about it. You haven’t even done basic research into the subject. The fact that you refuse to learn shows your true intent. The fact that you have gotten very defensive and drastically took things out of context. To the point where you’re making stuff up. That also demonstrates that you didn’t come for knowledge and learning.
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Great video. Used the 100 grain version in a 6.5 Grendel to take a deer, and I think this will be my go-to bullet for deer size game in this cartridge. What was weird, though, is I got an exit but massive trauma on a deer that weighed about 140lbs. Impact velocity was around 2150 fps.
Really that's interesting getting a pass through
The pass through is most likely because the bullet is getting close to the 2000 fps minimum impact velocity. Still high enough to dump energy and perform and enough bullet retained to exit. What was your shot placement? Did it contact ribs or any other bones?
Buddy hit a coyote with the 6mm 80 gr at 430 yards. Shot was a frontal shot and it split the coyote open along the belly and spine spilling the guts and chest cavity out of the belly rip.
@longrangehuntinggroup7223 so I was sitting up on a hill, shooting down, but it wasn't a severe angle. The buck was slightly quartering to me. I hit the bottom of the spine, and the bullet traveled about 8" before exiting near the liver. The ELD-VT blew out half of one lung, sent lead pieces in the other lung. If you are curious to the devastation it had at that impact velocity, I can email you the pictures. You can use them in your reviews or whatever help viewers since this bullet is requested so much.
@@brandonurbaniak1890 that would be great I appreciate it.
longrangehuntinggroup@yahoo.com
Awesome video! Will be excited to see results at low velocity.
It’s definitely going to be interesting especially comparing field results to gel results
Great video man I'm really glad you back up and running.
Thanks me too it was driving me nuts having a backlog of videos to edit. Now I got the new computer setup I’m knocking them out. The next video I’m actually pretty excited about doing.
So nice to see you’re back
Thanks there was a delay with the computer. Our computer took a crap on us so I had to buy a new computer and get everything setup and transferred over to the new computer. It was pretty time consuming honestly. Now that I’m back up and running I’ll be putting out videos again on a regular basis. This is the second video posted in 4 days. Gotta say though the new computer is so much nicer for doing videos. I have a 34” 4K monitor and it’s a professional gaming computer so it’s ridiculously fast. I wish I had bought one years ago.
Great detailed explanation of the technical aspects involved in impacts with a large-cavity design.
Glad you liked the video and found it informative. Good luck this hunting season and happy hunting.
I got a case of these in 6 ARC. I have a 6 ARC bolt gun, but I'm waiting on my Bartlein 22'' barrel for a gas gun 6 ARC I'm building. The 80gr VT's will be used in that. I found your video informative.
Very nice glad you found the video useful. What components are you using on your gas gun build?
You gained yourself a follower ! Thank you for the information sir 😎
Glad you like the video and found it helpful. If you ever have any questions please don’t hesitate to ask. Good luck this year hunting and happy hunting.
Good to see you back!
The design of the bullet is interesting. Looking forward to seeing the results at some distance. Hopefully below Hornady's recommended velocity limits just for curiosity.
Again glad to see you up and running !
Nice video.
Keep'em coming!
Hey bud hope you’re doing well. Yeah unfortunately it’s been a while for the videos. Computer took a crap on me so I had to buy a new computer. Wife wasn’t very happy when I dropped a couple grand on a new computer setup but I’m happy. 😂 Wish we could post pictures here in the comments because it’s pretty cool. It’s really nice actually having a computer designed to do this type of stuff. Makes everything so much easier and faster. Yeah I’m curious to see how they perform at lower velocities. Honestly I do think they are accurate on the 2000 fps minimum impact velocity unfortunately.
Been there on the wife situation. 😅
I have to be careful now, I noticed a hole in the top of the doghouse. Hope you and your loved one's are all healthy and happy.
@@kentuckywindage222I got a good wife and she wasn’t mad that long 😂 I have been planning on upgrading for a while. Editing and doing 4K videos requires a lot more computer than people realize. I was able to do it on the old computer but it took forever. After I uploaded the videos into the editing program. It would have to optimize before I could edit it. It generally took 3-6 hours before I could even start editing. With the new computer it takes a few seconds so huge difference. The new one I got a 34” curved 4K monitor which is super nice for editing. The old computer had a 10” screen so everything was super small. The computer is a professional gaming computer. So it is super fast and has the ram etc that I need to do videos in 4K. It’s been really nice I have done 2 videos in 4 days so far. I have a backlog of videos to get through right now. The next video is going to be good so keep an eye out for it.
Interesting, I thought the bigger cavity would make it open more. Thanks for sharing this. I wonder which 6mm bullet would give best expansion performance at lower velocity down at 1600fps.
A cavity can aid in expansion the problem is that if it’s too big then it is counterproductive and causes problems. The Berger hybrids have a big cavity that aids in expansion. This cavity is much larger than the hybrids. The 109 Berger hybrids will expand down to 1600 fps. The 108 and 109 eld match bullets will expand down to 1400 fps. The 110 A tips will expand down to 1400 fps as well. Those are the 4 top 6mm bullets for terminal ballistics and external ballistics in the 6mm.
Been waitin on these…and your the man to check performance out on this stuff…ordered the 22x lht for my waypoint prc last night…question….50mm obj I got .97” matched rings….with the little measurements I took I hope I clear my rail at the end…factory one on the waypoint…have 1” cheap ones on a 40mm obj with some clearance so it’ll be close….good deals rn 15% off vortex..plus b days next wk so that gives a little discount too on midway…👊🏻can’t wait to blast some through my prc…hope I can get the 95gr…man there wicked with h4350…
High as 3666fps which we all know takes the barrel with it so I separately log all the rds over 3600 I’ve fired…50 so far…520ish on the gun all logged..
What kind of rail or base are you using? If you have a 20 moa rail then you should be just fine.
3666 fps is cooking
What scope reticle is that at end of video 28:50
I've been using the 87 vmax for a few years it happened to be the most accurate bullet my cheap Ruger american shot. 39.5 grns of Varget right at 3200fps has been deadly for me. Think I will stick with it after watching this thanks for the info.
Glad you found the video helpful. I’ve heard those Ruger Americans are pretty accurate for how cheap they are. What kind of accuracy are you getting out of it with your 87 gr v max load?
I have the same rifle and it loves the 87 VMax too. Running 44.8 of H4350 going 3350 fps. Probably shoots roughly 3/4 moa and has taken a ton of coyotes. I’m working on a load for the new 80 ELD-VT with very poor results so far.
@@KMV-49 bad results with load development of the eld vt or bad terminal performance, or both?
Just bad results from development. I’ll keep trying, but so far it’s like I’m trying to polish a turd.
@@KMV-49 that’s no fun especially when it’s eating up your reloading components. I just picked up 200 of the 80 gr eld vt to load hopefully it is easier than what you’re dealing with. I don’t know if it will help but it is designed to be like the eld match. Eld match generally likes 20 thousandths off the lands for seating depth. The exception has been the 80 gr eld match in .224. Buddy has a 224 Valkyrie and it has to be exactly 19 thousandths or it’s like a shotgun blast. As long as it’s at 19 thousandths it will hold 1/4 moa. That’s the one eld match I’ve ever seen have an issue. So it’s possible that you could be experiencing the same issue with the eld vt and you just need to find the sweet spot for seating.
Broadside 150 yard shot out of a 6.5 Creed 100Gr Vmatch dropped the coyote right there and left a 3” exit hole for me.
I appreciate the information
They need to make a longer tip inside so the tip sits against the core
I agree that would definitely be an improvement and fix current issues.
What is the barrel length and twist rate of your rifle? Hornady told me to keep them below 300,000 rpm.
24” bartlien barrel with a 1:7 twist
@longrangehuntinggroup7223 ok so your around 340,000 rpm. It will be interesting to see if you have bullets blow up in flight.
@@brandonhovda4290 I shot a couple boxes of them at different distances with no issues.
@@brandonhovda4290 I'm getting another box of bullets today and I'm going to start load development to see how fast we can push them. I'll keep you updated as we I go.
Try some 110v max .308 24” barrel imr4198. 38-42gr is where I can load em according to what speed I want…I slowed down 100yrd impact on milk jug and wow what energy at 3500…the roofbolts it was hung from flexed like noodles lol…fn spr
I have some 110 v max sitting on the shelf waiting for testing in gel. I’m out of gel blocks so I gotta remelt some so I can do more tests.
hello from nampa
Nampa Idaho?
@@longrangehuntinggroup7223 yes. seen the idaho stuff on the wall and wanted to hello.
@@danm7876nice I grew up in Idaho and have hunted there a lot.
Today everybody gets these long rang rifles so they can shoot long ranges. But I see them neglecting their hunting skills doing this. Why put on a stalk, or even bother hunting, when one can just bushwhack bambi at 1200 yards? Theres no skill in that. No bragging rights around the campfire. Its time we go our seperate ways. Im looking for vids from the Ethical Hunting Group. Thanks for the vid.
@@doghousedon1 all you have ever done is just drop dumb comments. You are not here for videos or information. Your comments show that very clearly. You are just here to make uninformed statements about stuff you know nothing about and talk trash. This isn’t a train station no need to announce your departure. You are only making that statement to try and make it appear like you came here looking for something and didn’t find it. Instead of the truth which is you came here to troll. That shows especially on this video. This is a video on a new bullet and it was done at high velocity SHORT range. If you actually bothered to watch the video instead of just leaving comments you would know that.
@longrangehuntinggroup7223 I wish you could see it from the landowners' side. We're trying to keep this ground open to hunting. So be it.
@@doghousedon1 The definition of hunting “Hunting is the chasing and killing of wild animals by people or other animals, for food or as a sport.” Hunting is the chasing and killing of wild animals. That encompasses all types of hunting including long range hunting. Long range hunting as we know it today is not a new thing.
A rifle built specifically for the taking of game at distance. Adjustable sights for windage and elevation. Long precision barrel, light trigger with little creep, and hand tailored rounds for accuracy at long range. Modern long range hunting has been around for 151 years. That’s long before the modern compound bow.
The 1874 sharps long range rifle was specifically built for long range hunting. It was common for buffalo hunters to kill out to 1200 yards with them. Other companies rolled out their own versions like the rolling block. Long range hunting has been around ever since. It’s only been publicly known for the last decade or so because of the internet. It was still done before that but only the people doing it or people who knew them knew about it and wasn’t widely known.
The vast majority of long range hunters hunt multiple methods including archery. That makes us better more rounded hunters who can do everything. That makes us far better hunters than the guys who only do one thing. Long range is just another tool in the toolbox. Just because you don’t do it doesn’t mean that it’s wrong or not hunting. People these days think that the world revolves around them and anything they don’t do is wrong and should be cancelled. Maybe you should act more like a sportsman instead of putting down other hunters.
Long range hunting isn’t hurting hunting. People spreading misinformation about it because they don’t like it. So in reality you are the one who is actually harming hunting. Spreading lies because you don’t like something that you don’t even know about is ridiculous and childish. Land owners have literally nothing to do with these either. That’s a desperate attempt that doesn’t even make sense.
If a land owner is allowing or leasing their property for hunting. They are the ones choosing who can hunt on their land. So it has no bearing whatsoever on long range hunting. Nobody in 151 years has lost hunting because of long range hunting. There was no negativity towards it either until recently. The guys who are spreading that negativity don’t even have a clue about it either. They just don’t like it so they lie about to make it look bad.
You didn’t come here to learn about it. You haven’t even done basic research into the subject. The fact that you refuse to learn shows your true intent. The fact that you have gotten very defensive and drastically took things out of context. To the point where you’re making stuff up. That also demonstrates that you didn’t come for knowledge and learning.