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@@doghousedon1 all you have ever done is just drop dumb comments. You are not here for videos or information. Your comments show that very clearly. You are just here to make uninformed statements about stuff you know nothing about and talk trash. This isn’t a train station no need to announce your departure. You are only making that statement to try and make it appear like you came here looking for something and didn’t find it. Instead of the truth which is you came here to troll. That shows especially on this video. This is a video on a new bullet and it was done at high velocity SHORT range. If you actually bothered to watch the video instead of just leaving comments you would know that.

No I’m not on any forums

Thanks I appreciate that. If you ever have any questions please don’t hesitate to ask. Any big hunting plans for this year?

It’s rare to catch this the light has to hit it perfectly right. I’ve seen it a couple dozen times spotting before. Catching it on video is nice when you can get it.

Yes you can absolutely do high shoulder shots with your 30-30

@longrangehuntinggroup7223 Great.Thank you very much for answering on my question.But what would be maxium range when doing high shoulder shot with 30 30?

@@mladenkrsmanovic5814you will have to chronograph it to see exactly. Once you know your muzzle velocity input everything into a ballistics calculator. The bullet will expand down to 1700 fps. So look at what distance it hits 1700 and that’s the maximum effective range. You can do high shoulder from point blank to 1700 fps with the 30-30 muzzle velocity.

@@longrangehuntinggroup7223 Thank you.I wish you happy hunting.

I use either rcbs match competition die sets or Reddings match competition sets. If I’m only shooting it in one gun I’ll just use the neck die as the brass is fireformed to the chamber. If I’m running the loads through multiple guns I’ll use the full length die. If you really want to learn about the best way to reload look up a channel called Hawkeye ammosmithing. It’s a buddy of mine who is an expert in reloading, bullets, and ballistics. Great guy with an incredible amount of knowledge.

Here’s his channel. ruclips.net/video/ufzLVGn45bM/видео.htmlsi=7JNxq9Pfs2IOifKX

@@longrangehuntinggroup7223 perfect thanks brother! Keep it up 💪🏽

@@xpd44.outfitters no problem always happy to help when I can. I know quite a bit about reloading but I wouldn’t call myself an expert in it. So I can answer a good amount of questions. However most of the time I just refer people to Aaron (Hawkeye ammosmithing). His knowledge far exceeds my own and he has used about everything and every method. My goal here is to help set hunters up for success by giving them the correct information. If I don’t know something or it’s not something that I’m an expert in. I’ll either reach out to an expert and get an answer for you or I’ll simply refer you to the expert. Too many people have a big ego and would rather give bad information than admit that they don’t know something. That doesn’t help anyone and screws over the person asking for help. I don’t have an ego either I know or I don’t and I’ll tell you which. If you have any questions for him just drop a comment. He’s very good about responding to people. If for some reason he doesn’t get back to you in a reasonable amount of time. Let me know and I’ll give him a call and have him address your question. Good luck and if you have any additional questions for me don’t hesitate to ask.

@ thanks mate. Yeah what drew me to your videos was the “hunting with match bullets” topic. I have two precision rifles (.308 and 6.5 creed) and I hunt and shoot precision with both. I’ve been shooting factory ammo of either kind depending on the application (hunting vs target) and I want to get into reloading and find a load that gets me the best of both worlds. I don’t hunt past 300meters and from your videos Im leaning towards eld-m’s on both cartridges. Any other bullets I should look into? (Budget is definitely on top of the list) Cheers!!

Would that be Bob on the email?

@longrangehuntinggroup7223 Yes Should've put Kentuckywindage222. I don't email much and just had a brain fart.😅

255 yards

255 yards

Shoot me an email at longrangehuntinggroup@yahoo.com

This was a eld x

6mm?

@@mclifed6.5mm 143 eld x

Yes

Hey shoot me an email at longrangehuntinggroup@yahoo.com

@longrangehuntinggroup7223 I shot an E-mail your way last night. It's from Gmail.

Muzzle velocity is 2904 fps

@longrangehuntinggroup7223 hmm.oke....so more in the 170 yards region...🤔very curious...when do you give the correct answer?😆

@@barryduke2506270 yards

Thanks...i was waaaay off😂😂....time not correctly measured....was fun though...all the best from the Netherlands

I did a second try to measure the time between shot and hit...better result i think....i measured .28sec......so if i used that instead i would be closer....to the correct distance(still not perfect😉) Would love to see more of this👍👍it's real fun

You don’t think so about what?

That’s not how it actually works though. The higher the velocity the less penetration you will get. The higher the velocity the faster the bullet will expand and expand more. This rapid increase causes more surface area contact. That resistance and displacement of tissue will slow the bullet down giving it less penetration.

Tail to nose is 18 7/8” and foot to tallest part of the back just in front of the butt is 12 1/16”.

@longrangehuntinggroup7223 gonna say 333 yards then.

@@smithfalconry8050270 yards

110 a tips, 46.3 grs of H1000, Hornady brass, federal 210M large rifle primers.

The size of the reticle with a FFP grows or shrinks depending on the magnification. However the value of the reticle sub tensions remains the same. So no matter what magnification the marks in the reticle remains at .2 mils. I would focus on the time of the shot if I was you. Since you don’t know how to mil a target or the exact target size to mil the target it’s your best option.

okay..then about 250m

@@carlpedersen5046270 yards

I didn’t like the reticle when it first came out either. It wasn’t until I actually got to spend time on one that I started liking it. Once you know how to utilize it it allows you to be very effective and fast. Especially when it comes to fast shots or corrections.

270 yards

@ close enough for government work

@@chrisfisher3900yup you were really close

The tmk’s are good bullets for shooting and terminal ballistics. Congratulations on picking them up on a good deal.

Are you talking about a video challenge or bringing people here and having them attempt a challenge?

@longrangehuntinggroup7223 Either or both. I'm busted up and poor but you know plenty will show just for the chance to shine.

ELD Match from a 308 win

@longrangehuntinggroup7223 Wow!

@@kentuckywindage222 So it is actually pretty crazy. I had to drastically slow down the video to even see this. It happens so fast that even in slow motion you can miss it. A micro fragment of time when this occurred and I almost missed it. It is pretty crazy and as far as I know nobody else has footage of this. I could be wrong but I've never heard of this or seen it before.

@longrangehuntinggroup7223 I have not seen it either with ELDM. Maybe with an A-tip, if memory serves. Great catch.

Yup the 308 was one of the top long range rounds including competition. Then the 6.5 creedmoor came out and people started telling me that it is a terrible choice for long range. I even saw one where they had done a bunch of videos shooting 1200 yards with 308’s and recommending the 308 for doing that. Then the 6.5 creedmoor came out. All of a sudden the same people are claiming that a 308 isn’t good past 600 yards for targets. Unfortunately there is a bunch of uneducated idiots out there that believe marketing and even go further. I literally had two guys at a range that I was the RSO running the range. They came into the office and asked for help spotting for them. They had both just had full custom 6.5 creedmoors built with top of the line everything. They were struggling to hit anything and wanted help. They had 400 rounds between them of factory match ammunition. They shot and were way off for wind so I asked what they held? They said that it’s a 6.5 creedmoor and they don’t have to hold wind. 🤦‍♂️ So I gave them a wind adjustment. Instead of listening to me they slowly adjusted one click at a time. By the time they finally had adjusted enough to hit the target. They had used almost a box of ammunition and they hit with my wind call. So you think they would realize I know what I’m talking about and listen. Nope they did the same thing at the next target too. We get out to 1000 yards and I give them 8 minutes right for a full value wind. No joke they tell me that is ridiculous and too much. That they don’t have to adjust that much for wind because it’s not a 308. 🙄 They decided once again not to listen to me. They shot, missed, adjusted one click, shot, missed, adjusted one click, and continued until they finally hit at 8 minutes. I had enough and wasn’t going to waste my day arguing with people who don’t understand the basics and won’t listen. Out of the 400 rounds they had 22 impacts in the whole day. I had another guy when I was running the range. He was telling some people on the range that the 6.5 creedmoor is what you have to have to shoot long range. That a 308 won’t even make it to the 1000 yard target. I didn’t say anything just walked into the office. I grabbed my M40 308 win and walked back out. I didn’t say anything to them. I just got setup and put 5 rounds on the 1200 yard target. He told the girls he was talking to that I clearly was shooting a 6.5 creedmoor to hit 5 shots at 1200 yards. I just smiled at him and said nope just my good old 308. He looked like he had been slapped and the girls were smirking. I just smiled at the girls he was trying to impress and went back into the office. I heard later from a buddy who was shooting. After I went back into the office he was bright red and was trying to come up with an excuse for me proving him wrong. He ended up going with the favorite I just got lucky. The girls weren’t buying it or anything he said after that. It’s amazing how dumb people can be. They will believe absolute nonsense and then argue against facts and evidence. The 6.5 is a weird thing honestly. You have people who think that it defies reality and is the greatest. You have guys who hate it and think it can’t do anything especially hunting. Both groups are guy’s who don’t know anything especially ballistics. Then you got the rest of us who know that it’s just another cartridge and the bullet is what actually dictates performance not the case.

It has an aluminum tip but does not perform or operate the same as an A tip. I have become friends with the owner of apex. We actually have several friends in common. Rich didn't have any part of it. Mark is a very smart guy and did everything himself.

Thanks for the support and kind words. Glad you’re enjoying the channel and hopefully learning from it. Hope everything is going well on your end. Happy new year and happy hunting.

Any big hunting plans for this year?

😂

@longrangehuntinggroup7223 seriously I'm on a mission to inform all the old fuds that they should just let go of that over rated dinosaur and pick one of the many options that are newer and way better. Lol death to the 270 win lol.

This made me start cracking up laughing! Happy new year.

@longrangehuntinggroup7223 270 win sucks, just saying lol. Happy new year 🎉 bud.

@@MatthewKyle-sg5uo Yeah unfortunately the industry has not kept up with the 270 caliber bullet selection. It has one of the least and worst selection of bullets.

Thanks! Welcome to the channel.

You are going to want to keep your impact velocity above 1800 fps. Look in your ballistics calculator and see what distance the bullet hits 1800 fps. That will be your maximum effective range for that bullet in your gun. Something else to be aware of is impact angle. BTHP style bullets are more sensitive to impact angle. Too much angle and the tip instead of opening up, grabbing material, and expanding outward. The tip will fold over closing the hole. The bullet will instantly start to tumble before entering the body. The front of the bullet is going downward and the weight of the back of the bullet with the momentum. The back of the bullet will come forward as the tip goes down. This will cause the bullet to impact the ribs nearly sideways. The bullet at that point is unpredictable and can cause non fatal wounds or simply a fatal wound but slow to die. That’s why hollow point bullets have a higher minimum impact velocity than tipped bullet last. The tipped bullet the tip sits in a cavity almost like a V. It has two mechanisms for expansion. As the jacket starts to peel out it catches material causing it to expand. The tip is forced backwards in the cavity until the tip contacts the core. This acts like a splitting wedge forcing it outwards. Due to the shape of the cavity and tip they are less sensitive to impact angle. Even at an angle the tip on impact is guided back into the core by the shape of the cavity. This allows for much lower minimum impact velocities and better more consistent expansion. So just be aware of the potential issues with impact angle that the longer distances. Make sure you are keeping it above the minimum impact velocity of 1800 fps.

@@longrangehuntinggroup7223 great response, my major concern was the 220 not opening on deer sized game as they are pretty heavy. Do you think that would be a concern

@@zebacake4683with the higher sectional density impact resistance is your friend. Deer don’t offer a lot of resistance. I recommend doing high shoulder shots for better results. It will still open up with a lung shot as long as you’re above 1800 fps. However you will get better results with high shoulder shots.

@@longrangehuntinggroup7223 thanks for the advice!

@@longrangehuntinggroup7223 while I'm here, any opinions on drilling bullets like the 230smks? They have a much higher BC, though I think most would just prefer the Bergers

Thanks!

So you know you’re one of the top subscribers. 66 comments and 33 heart reactions. According to my data in my RUclips studio you have the highest amount of heart reactions on my channel. Thanks for the support and comments.

@longrangehuntinggroup7223 You got it brother. I enjoy the same thing's as you. I'm glad to back you up. Happy New Year

@@kentuckywindage222 Well just know that I appreciate it. Happy New Year.

There is no such thing as a stupid question. The only stupid question is the one not asked. So in ideal conditions and circumstances 100 yards. That of course depends on your phone, WiFi strength, etc.

And then some 😂